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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Sam here with a quick announcement specifically

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Speaker 1: for those people who are living in New York or Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and those things are that. If you are in New York,

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Speaker 1: we are doing our Streaty Lab live show this Friday,

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Speaker 1: October twenty seventh at the Bellhouse. We have special guests

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Speaker 1: Catherine Cohen, iik Ufomadu, and Richard Perez. It is going

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Speaker 1: to be incredible. George and I have costumes confirmed. And

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Speaker 1: then if you are in Chicago, I'm doing my solo

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Speaker 1: show Club Comic on November ninth at the Collar Club.

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Speaker 1: Club Comic is club tracks, stand up videos. It's a

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Speaker 1: comedy concert experience that, Honey, it must be seen to

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Speaker 1: be believed. Please please please get tickets to that. It

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Speaker 1: would mean the world to me to see you there.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about an efficient announcement. I am so

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Speaker 1: damn fast. Okay, enjoy this episode. Get those tickets. They're

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Speaker 1: available in our bio and you know on those venues websites. Okay,

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Speaker 1: love you have fun. Bye. Okay, podcast starts now what

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Speaker 1: is up everyone around the globe? You are once again

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Speaker 1: hearing the voices of me, Sam and the silence of

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Speaker 1: my co host George, George, why are you silent? Well?

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Speaker 3: Was I silent?

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Speaker 1: Or was our far along who? So true?

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Speaker 3: So relevant? So now, yeah, that's so true. This episode

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Speaker 3: was actually recorded right after that interview came out, but

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Speaker 3: this recording is three years old. Yeah, we wanted to

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Speaker 3: wait until it was time for Halloween twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: in ordered for it to be really relevant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which we did. We succeeded.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what's really difficult? And I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: it's a risk because then it opens up a can

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Speaker 3: of worms. But we were talking about this yesterday. It's

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Speaker 3: difficult to know. The things we want to talk about

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Speaker 3: right now are literally not in the purv in the

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Speaker 3: in the realm of things that we're actually that is

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Speaker 3: our job to talk about.

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Speaker 1: You mean that we want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: I mean all kinds of things. I think we want

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Speaker 3: to talk about personal like literally like personal sex, things

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Speaker 3: which we don't do on the pod, of course, and

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Speaker 3: then on the broader picture we want to talk about

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Speaker 3: big picture current events, which we also absolutely do not

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Speaker 3: do on the pod. And so I'm having this this

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Speaker 3: like true, Like the reason I was silent slash silence

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Speaker 3: is because I'm like so what else is there? No

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Speaker 3: where do I find what is the midway point where

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything super personal and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: To global affairs. Here's what I'll say. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: noticed something. I think. Okay, I was talking to Misha

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Speaker 1: I lost it. I lost whatever magic I had. And

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Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper's like, what did you bring a piano in here?

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Speaker 1: And she's like, that's too much I don't want to

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Speaker 1: and then she thrives. The magic is back. And I

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Speaker 1: think you are afraid of inconveniencing people for your art

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Speaker 3: I think you is our equivalent of the piano.

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Speaker 1: Personal, discussing personal things and not feeling self conscious. Yeah huh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? Well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, but do you think so.

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Speaker 1: My example, of course, was yesterday when we were both

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Speaker 1: because it would have seemed unprofessional and professional setting. But

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Speaker 1: we have to remember that we are inherently, at our

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Speaker 3: We're so unprofessional we're leaving money on the table when

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Speaker 1: The way another Bradley Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have no empathy for anyone else being incompetent,

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Speaker 3: good at being bad podcasters, yes, which is bad for us.

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Speaker 1: In the long run, yes, but good for this media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. And thank god podcasting is forever and and

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Speaker 3: this will all never change. You know what I have

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Speaker 1: That's true. People look back on this moment and be like, wow,

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Speaker 3: If there's one thing I've learned from working at Quibi

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Speaker 4: And you don't need to be profitable.

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Speaker 3: No, no, well that is true.

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Speaker 1: That actually is.

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Speaker 3: We actually live in a warped world where being profitable

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Speaker 1: Profit is passe.

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Speaker 3: Profit is so passe, where it's like you go into

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Speaker 3: we're profitable. They laugh in your face. Mark Zuckerbert literally

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also like, oh, you're living the dream of

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Speaker 1: This there's something true about this that is so dark

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Speaker 3: Have to drown everyone with numbers so that they don't

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Speaker 3: literally will be like five billion impressions and someone's like

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Speaker 4: And there's only two million people and.

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Speaker 3: People in the world, and half of them are podcasting

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Speaker 3: You don't want your thing to be more relevant now

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Speaker 3: Where's the growth? And also so this thing that you're

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Speaker 3: I So I'm not getting any returns from this, so so.

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Speaker 3: This is one of a currently me purchasing a hot coffee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually want a new one. I'm actually getting

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Speaker 3: It is so crazy that neither of us went to

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Speaker 1: I always love I have to you know, two down hordes.

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Speaker 1: I really feel that My favorite thing of this podcast

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Speaker 1: is when you're like, what are we gonna talk about?

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Speaker 1: What are we going to talk about? And then you

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Speaker 1: then go on to tear down all corporations ever.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's only so I can build my own and

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Speaker 1: Life finds away.

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Speaker 3: But actually I think that my idea about now more

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Speaker 3: more than ever. I mean it's literally an admission of defeat.

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Speaker 1: You know? The answer that I have that is sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you read the article I sent you?

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Speaker 1: See? I did mean to.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is when there's an article listen up.

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Speaker 1: Keep articles in like a queue? Because I have articles

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Speaker 1: this totally. And it's not number two. Sweetheart's number one,

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Speaker 3: And by the way, people are gonna get in touch

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Speaker 3: with solutions we don't want them.

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Speaker 1: I actually could be interested of their actual solutions, all right,

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Speaker 1: But I have currently I do this thing now where

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Speaker 3: Me too, and I never go back scroll through all

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Speaker 3: my other iconic screen trucks just to find an article

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Speaker 3: Countless my Vulture article Dick picks from every single man

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck, good luck finding it.

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Speaker 3: we have to bring our guests, and but all I

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Speaker 3: Basically it's making the argument that there's no more innovation.

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Speaker 3: actually art.

440
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you.

441
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Speaker 3: Can always see. But I'm all, I am sort of like,

442
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 3: what if we deleted it.

443
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big fan of deleting.

444
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 3: I think it should be deleted.

445
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

446
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always when I can force myself to be

447
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 3: really black and white about something, like I can just

448
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: I can just convince myself in for second, I'm like, oh,

449
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: well it's all it's censoring political content because it's has

450
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 3: to abide by the Chinese government rules. That's not necessarily true,

451
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 3: but I'm like, oh great, so now I can just

452
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 3: morally feel like I'm saying the right thing, and I

453
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 3: also don't have to get TikTok.

454
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Speaker 2: And I think at this point in time, in twenty

455
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: twenty three, all of the social media platforms have really

456
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: given us really great reasons to leave them, and yet

457
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are still on them.

458
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 2: And so even with all of the the very very

459
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: clear cut reasons of why these are bad for us

460
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 2: or why we shouldn't be on them, we're all still

461
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: doing a lot of them.

462
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Speaker 1: That's unfortunately. The saddest part is it like that's sort

463
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: of what's the weirdest to me about TikTok because the

464
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: other ones, it was like, well, we were addicted to

465
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: them before we knew that they were bad, and it's like, well,

466
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 1: now we know, like there is proof that this is bad.

467
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: And then we're like, but what if I get it?

468
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: Like I know, and it's like, but I need to

469
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: go viral, like I need I need attention from this

470
00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: other way.

471
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, just what it's yeah, just when I just when

472
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: I think my feed is I hate it and I'm

473
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 2: ready to delete it. Then like they'll throw something at

474
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: me that I will be blown away by creatively, even

475
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: though it's probably in any other realm, I might not

476
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: be blown away by it, but when it comes on

477
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: my feed in between somebody making pumpkin bread and Housewives gifts,

478
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: then I'm enthralled by it. There was recently this guy

479
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 2: who he was taking like QVC clips and like kind

480
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: of a bloopers QVC or HSN bloopers, and you know

481
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: how usually those bloopers there's somebody on a phone call,

482
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: like somebody calling in to the to the segment, and

483
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: so he was dressing up as the person calling in,

484
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: and so we were seeing the person calling in's reaction

485
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: as the host on QVC fell off a ladder or whatever.

486
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Speaker 3: When I'm already laughing.

487
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I swear to god, I watched this guy

488
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: and I was blown And he wasn't an entertainer. I

489
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: think he's just you know, he had said he messaged

490
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: me and said like oh, thank you for sharing or something,

491
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: because he's like, I don't I'm not a comedian or anything.

492
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, you are, though, and you're creating

493
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: the most beautiful content I've ever seen.

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, I did love when that

495
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: There was one person that did like it was like

496
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: a parody of a fashion show. So he kept wearing

497
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: like the most insane It would be like a giant

498
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: piece of wood. Like he would just like take things

499
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: in his apartment and then do like a runway walk

500
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 3: with them. I was like, that's genius.

501
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

502
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So my standards are very low, I mean mine,

503
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: so maybe the maybe the sort of maybe what feels

504
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: so mind numbing about all of it is like how

505
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 3: everything is a reference to something, like everything is sampling basically.

506
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Speaker 1: Well, and what bothers me about it, which is it's

507
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: just that it's a video editors world out there. Yeah,

508
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm sort of like, whatever happened to just performance

509
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: or writing or writing even?

510
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: And don't you feel with podcasting too, there's so much

511
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: pressure now to be putting these videos on social media.

512
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: And I get a yeah, I know, but I'm just

513
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: like you guys where it's like it's too much, it's

514
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: all too much and I and then you hear people

515
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: yell at you. They'll say you gotta be posting these

516
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: on TikTok or something. It's like I'm exhausted.

517
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

518
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way that you say something literally in conversation,

519
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: just like the first thing you thought of, and you

520
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: listen back to it and you're like, oh, that's like

521
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: sort of funny. I guess we'll have to put it

522
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: on five platforms with a caption that's like this is

523
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: my official belief and sucks.

524
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Speaker 2: All of the joy out of that one little moment. Yeah,

525
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: it's just crazy.

526
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: Well, that is so funny.

527
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: Should we do our first segment?

528
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: I think we should, Danny. Our first segment is called

529
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: straight Shooters, and in the segment, we ask you a

530
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: series of rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity with

531
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: and complicity and straight culture. It's basically this thing or

532
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: this other thing. And the only rule is you can't

533
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: ask a single follow up question or we will scream

534
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: at the top of our lungs. It'll be louder than

535
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: that howl in Shallow. Wow.

536
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: We should actually do the howl from Shallow when someone

537
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: asked the question talk about topical, talk about you really

538
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: did record this episode three years ago? Relevant now now

539
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: more than ever, Just into my no, no, no, The

540
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: question coming.

541
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Georgia, take us off.

542
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Danny strutting your stuff or shouting enough.

543
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to answer.

544
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's sort of check in with heart of the.

545
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: Game, and I'm saying this is straight.

546
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the benefited doubt.

547
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: I loven't hate people. Yes, well, then we'll say yes.

548
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: So Okay, we did get you, we got we got you.

549
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: Gotta choose one or the other.

550
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, enough enough, okay.

551
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Danny, piece of cake or slice of life,

552
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: slice of life?

553
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. Okay, I'll have the ah tuna

554
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: steak where Isaac Musrahi sure can bake.

555
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: I'll have the ah tuna steak.

556
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: Okay. Friendly fire or enemy sexual desire, enemy sexual desire.

557
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: Stairway to Heaven or air train de terminal be.

558
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven, stair way to Heaven, okay, finding NEMO

559
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: or losing your libido.

560
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Uh, losing your libido.

561
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Abstract expressionism or concrete jungle.

562
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: Concrete, that's good, concrete jungle, okay, being direct with your feelings,

563
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: or being distant and weird and hoping people see it.

564
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: Distant and weird.

565
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow.

566
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: These were very high concept.

567
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: These were high concept. We're going into a new era. Yeah,

568
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: tell that to the writer of No New Innovation.

569
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really feel like I feel like I'm in

570
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: the midst of this new innovation.

571
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we will be honest and say those are

572
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: some of the hardest ones we've ever done. Yeah, I think.

573
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: And we rate our guests on a scale of one

574
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: to one thousand doves, well, zero to one thousand do actually, oh,

575
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: that's a good point we could give you as.

576
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: No, we're not giving you a zero. Where do I

577
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: actually think that was? I think that was a good performance.

578
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really good perform. I would

579
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: say it's around the eight hundreds.

580
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I thought eight hundred and seventy two.

581
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's eight hundreds.

582
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: It felt rocky at the beginning, and I'm sorry about that.

583
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: My apologize that was, you know, vulnerability lets people in.

584
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: I think your fans will see that and be like,

585
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: he's human.

586
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I did like that. You know, you were

587
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: you were sort of like you were playing along. You

588
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: want you know, you want to sort of like yes, Sands,

589
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: and then there was a split second where you were

590
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: it was clear that you were like these fucking idiots. Yeah,

591
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: I actually love that. There was really there was a

592
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: moment of retaliation.

593
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

594
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: I was like, literally off, oh interesting, Like I was

595
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: going to shut the laptop screen and just say in

596
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: the beginning.

597
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, because like we've we've put you through

598
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: so much already, and I were just gonna like yell

599
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: random words at you.

600
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: No.

601
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: But I liked it. And also I like when people

602
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: are a little confrontational. And this is a topic for

603
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: my therapist, but I tend to be attracted to men

604
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: who can be a little tough on me, and.

605
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: So I think then sense that the sexual Yeah, I was.

606
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: Just gonna say. I don't know if you picked up

607
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: on that part of it, because that was that was

608
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: what I actually think I was feeling. When you thought

609
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: I was saying, fuck these guys, I think I was

610
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: actually saying, like, oh, fuck these guys. You know, Like

611
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: it was well, it was interesting.

612
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: It was interesting when you leaned in and started kissing

613
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: the camera. Yeah, the pants off, Yeah, and you took

614
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: off your pants.

615
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: That was sort of interesting. Yeah, that was an interesting

616
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: way to perform that.

617
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm like, should we get into our topic.

618
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: I think we should actually.

619
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Speaker 3: Okay, Danny, We would love to know what straight topic

620
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: you have brought for us today and maybe a little

621
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: bit about what you think is straight about it. Yeah.

622
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: So we're coming up on the Halloween season, or we're

623
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: in the midst of the Halloween season, and I just

624
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: find that straight people love to dress up as Harley

625
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: Quinn and Joker. And it's been happening for It wasn't

626
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: just there's a misconception that it's been happening just since

627
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: that movie that came out with Jared Leto and Margot Roppie.

628
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: But it's been happening forever, and people every time think

629
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: that it's unique. And it's fine if you just want

630
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: to wear a costume that everybody is wearing all the time.

631
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: But there is something that I find to be almost

632
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: like straight ownership over that specific couple's costume.

633
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, Yeah, it's weird.

634
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: Weirdly, no gay person has ever gone as the Joker.

635
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually really racking my brain think of a gay

636
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: person that has gone as a Joker. Yeah, And I

637
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: can't like the way that it is straight makes it

638
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: almost like I haven't thought of it as the straight costume,

639
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, oh, it's so is to the

640
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: point where it would be really really funny to go

641
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: as that.

642
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because there's other things that are sort of straight.

643
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: It's like okay, like you know, the Scream, like just

644
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: things that are sort of cliche, like even where's Waldo is?

645
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, all those things are little shape but like

646
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: I've certainly seen gay people go as where as Waldo.

647
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: I think people love the Scream movies, but literally, the

648
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: Joker is only straight.

649
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: To me, the most universal costume would be Mario and

650
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: Luigi in terms of gay straight because I find that

651
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: two gay men often will dress up as Mario Luigi.

652
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: But then I also have seen like two straight frat

653
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: guys or whoever dress up as Mario Luigi.

654
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: So that's just the couples where literally like where straight

655
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: couples where the woman is the Luigi and the man

656
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: is Mario. Wow, you'll see anything these days, but Harley.

657
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Quinn and Joker, I don't think you will ever see

658
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: gay peoples as either of those, even Harley Quinn, who

659
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: I think gay people might like the character, but I

660
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Speaker 2: just don't know that I've seen a gay person dresses

661
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: Harley Quinn because even I think gay people recognize, Oh

662
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: that's a straight costume exactly.

663
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: That's not for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have seen one person, one queer woman dresses

665
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: Harley Quinn, but she was doing it as a joke.

666
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: So that's where it gets complicated.

667
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: It was, it was.

668
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Okay, and it was actually extremely funny because Angelo did

669
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: her makeup and like made it really really professional looking,

670
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and it was sort of like what is going on?

671
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: But I love that that she kind of leaned into that,

672
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: Like that's really leaned in.

673
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: I feel like, literally Marjory Taylor Green has dressed as

674
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: Harley like it is a fully conservative costume. It is

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: all right.

676
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean so the Joker's place in culture is

677
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: very complicated, yeah, because there is just between the two

678
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: of them, there is sort of a Republican bend to it,

679
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: but you can also take it to a another like

680
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: it's like it's almost any political affiliation you want can

681
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: be jokerfied.

682
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: M hm.

683
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm raising my hand because I also have

684
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: to say we're entering this weird era too with Lady

685
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: Gaga doing Joker Part two. That is gonna blur all

686
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: of these fucking lines.

687
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: Wow, you are so right.

688
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: I actually don't know aware that would leave us, that

689
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: might be what that might be.

690
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Honestly, like, will it heal us?

691
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I think it will divide us so bad. I think

692
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: it'll make it. I think it'll make Lady.

693
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: Gaga less for the gays, I mean, I'm sorry, but

694
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: when you look at Lady Gaga's recent choices to go

695
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: from literally being nominated for an oscar for doing a

696
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: literally like jingoistic military song. Sorry, that's true.

697
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: You mean the hold my.

698
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Hand, Hold my Hand?

699
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

700
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: What's that movie called top I Love the Army?

701
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

702
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she to be literally be doing like American flag

703
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: army propaganda for for Top Gun, Top Gun, Top Top Gun,

704
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: the biggest movie of like for Top Gun. To go

705
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: from that to playing basically Marjorie Taylor Green, I'm like,

706
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: where is Maybe it's because she's so traumatized by CHROMATICA

707
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: coming out during the pandemic that she took a hard

708
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: right turn.

709
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: She keeps getting traumatized. Of course, we're trying to talk

710
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: about the joker in Harleyquen and we just end up

711
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: talking exclusively about God's career choices. But it's she keeps

712
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: getting traumatized and being like, I'm never doing dance music

713
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: again and then finally she comes back to it and

714
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: gets traumatized it.

715
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: And by the way, just to add one more thing,

716
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: so there's there's top Gun, there's Joker, and then the

717
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: other thing she's doing with her career is basically doing

718
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: like an MLM with her makeup line that no one's buying,

719
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: which is also very conservative.

720
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Coding has looked into MLM territory, like what.

721
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean spiritually?

722
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: Spiritually yeah, like.

723
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: You're sort of like, do you know anyone who's purchasing

724
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean, because I know people that wear Fent that

725
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: purchase Rihanna's makeup, I know people that wear Kylie Jenner's makeup.

726
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Who's purchasing Lady Guy's makeup? I have no idea, literally, No,

727
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 3: it's an MLM.

728
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: You know she's doing okay, yeah, but is there a

729
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: possibility that maybe she is using the joker too to

730
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: relaunch the makeup because it's going to be having makeup

731
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: and maybe it makes sense then and people maybe it's

732
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: not selling, and maybe she's thinking about this, this would

733
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: be good for the makeup.

734
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: You are a genior.

735
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: That is the most obvious point.

736
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: It never even occurred to me. She's always two steps ahead.

737
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's playing chess while we're all playing checkers.

738
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: To but also like talk about conservatives, so basically she's

739
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: anti art. She's literally doing a movie as a means

740
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: to make spond con for her makeup.

741
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: To Is it a musical? Are people saying it's a musical.

742
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: It's a musical.

743
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me either though. That's

744
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: and I didn't see the first one, but it was

745
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think the first one was a.

746
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Music songs in it, okay, but there was dancing.

747
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: So this is confusing to me.

748
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: The whole thing. It's confusing, Okay, to return to Halloween costumes,

749
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Like I think from your point about it being so

750
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: long that we've seen Joker costumes is one of the

751
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: more apt points, like.

752
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 3: Of many, by the way, you are firing on all

753
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: cylinder No, of course, Yeah.

754
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I I just remember like being literally in college and

755
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: seeing the Joker everywhere and be like, okay, well this

756
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: is college obviously now more than ever, this is gonna

757
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: slowly fall down, sure, And the way that we cannot

758
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: move away from the Joker and escape it, like we

759
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: can't escape it, even we the two of us, can't

760
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: escape it. Every time we're in here, we're talking about

761
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: how things are the Joker?

762
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I mean it is a really great metaphor,

763
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: like it's a rich cultural figure for a reason.

764
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Who's more important Jesus Christ are the Joker?

765
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean two sides of the same coin, because today,

766
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: what's the difference? One is the because one is the

767
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: Joker in a kind hearted like one is kindness punk

768
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: and one is Joker, the two sides of the coin

769
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: of chromatica.

770
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me how somehow the Joker has even

771
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: eclipsed Batman or or I would I think most gay

772
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: people would agree that, like Catwoman was a better character,

773
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: but for some reason, Joker seems to live out.

774
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: I know.

775
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: It's well, there's a loneliness epidemic that especially, that's literally true,

776
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: and I actually think that is that is real.

777
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: Well, Joker is like what if we made in cells

778
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: fun and like colorful.

779
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: And there is something about people probably with the makeup.

780
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: It's like an easy costume to sort of do the makeup,

781
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: or it's like a very recognizable costume. So I think

782
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: sometimes gay people in particular, they will put on a

783
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: costume that will be very obscure, you know, it's like

784
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: a it's like flow from progressive or so, you know,

785
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: like they're doing some weird obscure reference. I had a

786
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: friend who dressed up as the Snappy Lady ones Do

787
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: you remember her?

788
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: Like it wow?

789
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Classic, And of course.

790
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: At the party she had to keep saying, I'm the

791
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: Snappy Lady, you know. But I don't think straight people,

792
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: at least the ones I've experienced, want to be going

793
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: around the party and explaining their costume, whereas if they're

794
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Joker and Harley Quinn, it's like, oh, they did come

795
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: in a costume and I know what it is, and

796
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: so it's that that pressures off them, whereas gay people

797
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: kind of want to be like, oh, here is I'm

798
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm the snap Lady totally.

799
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: And you're actually pointing to something very smart, which is

800
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: gay people love the sort of leaning into specificity. And

801
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: in fact, the Joker is a pretty accessible costume because

802
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: if you just do smeared makeup in any combination of

803
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: like green, purple, ill fitting suit, yeaople will sort of get.

804
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: Where you're going. Yeah, wet hair.

805
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you're at a Halloween party and you were,

806
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: forgive my language, sucking in the bathroom and you come

807
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: out and your your lipsticks all smeared. It's very easy

808
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: to say, easy to say, oh, I'm the joker, right.

809
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: I actually find the I find it cheating sometimes when

810
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: gay people go really specific and are like, oh, I'm

811
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: the extra from this film to like who made the

812
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: weird face at minute thirty three, I'm like, like, you're disqualified.

813
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: I actually think that should be referees at Halloween. Yeah,

814
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: that go around and disqualify.

815
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: So what is your ideal level of specificity for Halloween costume?

816
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: You have to like, we need to be able to

817
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: take a pull of the room and seventy five percent

818
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: of people need to know who you are.

819
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good number.

820
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: Actually a good point. That's a good point. And also,

821
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: by the way, it should not be only readable when

822
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: it's a photograph on Instagram.

823
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you need to that's they should get banned

824
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: from Instagram. The way that people will be like like

825
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: holding a book and be like I'm book lady, and

826
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: it's like and I'm like, no, you're not, You're not

827
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: book lady.

828
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: And celebrities have been doing that more and more in

829
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: the past few years, where they're taking these photos and

830
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you going to a party dressed like that?

831
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: Or did you just do a photo shoot? So you

832
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: just did a photo Yeah, you just did a photo

833
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: shoot in front of your wall, and then you're posting

834
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: it side by side with the picture. I'm like, is

835
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: this really even meant to be a costume at a

836
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: costume party? We're gonna also be entering really dangerous territory

837
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: this year because I'm I'm fearing that the Straits are

838
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: really going to lean hard into Ken from Barbie. I

839
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: just feel it, and I feel I.

840
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: Mean, you're totally right, and let's talk about that.

841
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: But that's like, maybe I'm a little bit jealous of

842
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: that sincerity sometimes where it's like you can watch the

843
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: biggest movie of the year, you can see that clearly

844
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: this is a couple's costume waiting to happen, and you

845
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: can know in your heart that there will be four

846
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: hundred other people in your town of five hundred people

847
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: going as that, And then you are like, but I'm

848
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: gonna do it too, and I'm not being critical of

849
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: that Like that nice. There's a sincerity, there's a wholesomeness

850
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: there where you're like, well, I don't need to be

851
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: the most unique. I just want to have fun tonight.

852
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: This is actually I think about the lot in terms

853
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: of weddings. I feel like there's two kinds of straight couples,

854
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: which is like with weddings, where one kind is like

855
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: quirky alt like, this is our chance to be as

856
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: original as possible. We're picking readings that are from like

857
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: there's one funny one and it's from you know some

858
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: it's it's from like Juny B. Jones and it's like

859
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: a funny one. And then there's also one really deep

860
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: one from like some you know, Soviet poet, and then

861
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 3: and and we're gonna and I'm gonna wear a wedding

862
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: dress that's actually purple, and he's gonna wear like shoes

863
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: that don't match and blah blah blah. And then the

864
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: other kind is just the people that are like it

865
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: is my turn to do what everyone else has been doing. Yeah,

866
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: And that's actually and it's like I don't want it

867
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: to be original. I wanted to be as close to

868
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: Google image wedding as possible, But it's my face on.

869
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: Top of the wedding dress.

870
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It kind of reminds me though.

871
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: I feel like with Halloween. That is the that's sort

872
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: of the difference. It's like the people that dress as

873
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: Joker and Harley, Barbie and Ken, They're just like, it

874
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: doesn't lessen the impact for them that everyone else is

875
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: doing it. They're just like, but we're also doing it.

876
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: There's a selflessness to it. Yeah, yeah, it's collectivism.

877
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: Did you see the Beckham documentary. I had forgotten when

878
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: David and Victoria got married that they were in those

879
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: purple suits and their son was also in a matching

880
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: purple suit. And I don't know, it made me think

881
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: of it when you were saying that, because to me,

882
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: that fell somewhere in the middle at least where it

883
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: was like, we're doing the traditional wedding, and of course

884
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: it was publicized and all that stuff, but then at

885
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: least they put on ridiculous purple suits which were to

886
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: bring us back around, likely somewhat inspired by the Joker.

887
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: Inspired by the Joker and Hurley Quinn. It's so crazy

888
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: that Beckham's dress is the Joker. Yeah, for their wedding.

889
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm almost like, okay, if they if two people actually

890
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: dress as a Joke and Hurley Quinn for their wedding,

891
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: I might have to just tip my hat to that.

892
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: I would have to stand. I would have to stand.

893
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: There's something where you're like, all right, well you actually

894
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: went for it.

895
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: I actually love like a wild wedding, like when people

896
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: like people will post pictures of like this is the

897
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: takiest wedding ever, and they're like all on camo or something,

898
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that is a sligh to me.

899
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: It's tough. Well, weddings are tough because, in fact, I

900
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: almost think we need to abandon the idea of a

901
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: non tacky wedding, like it's just it's in it's definitionally

902
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: it's tacky.

903
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. I used to Yeah, I'm so sorry,

904
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: dan't raptor. I used to do this show called Tony

905
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: and Tina's Wedding when I lived in Chicago, and it's

906
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: the whole thing is a tacky Italian wedding and it's

907
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: dinner theater. So we were literally like putting on a

908
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: fake wedding every night. And it was that tacky wedding

909
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: where every night you would hear shout at a certain time,

910
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: and obviously it was sort of semi scripted, so there

911
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: were all these beats you hit, but it really made you.

912
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: It really made me step back and see all of

913
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: those those beats of a wedding, and they're exhausting and ridiculous.

914
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: And I have a question, what's everyone's Halloween costume that

915
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: they're most proud of?

916
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: I actually have some. I have some good ones, Okay,

917
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: so I can go first. Yeah, to come to mind,

918
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: both of them were a couple of costumes with my

919
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: ex boyfriend and shout out, shout out. One of them

920
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: was this is a very instagrammy one, so you're not

921
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: gonna like this one.

922
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hereio.

923
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: It was a specific photograph of Teagan and Sarah and

924
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: we were teagaing and Sarah I'm walking out And I

925
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: do think a game male couple being Tegan and Sarah

926
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: is funny.

927
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Sure that holds. That's funny.

928
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: So that's one and it was like the photo side

929
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: by side. It was like a very clear reference. And

930
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 3: then the other one was the year that Tanaches Tuon

931
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: came out. We went as two giant on switches, so

932
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: we were two on and she regrammed us, oh h

933
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: so those.

934
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: Are my Oh I forgot that's how you got your

935
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: big brain.

936
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: So she posted to her twenty thousand follower. I mean

937
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: this was ten.

938
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Years ago, so it was even fewer than twenty thousand.

939
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: I do love Tanashi. I was just joking.

940
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, of course, of course I was

941
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: proud of my I had a trilogy of costumes. Wow,

942
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: that were all because it was inspired by one year.

943
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be Arian on a Grande

944
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: and didn't realize, you know, this was a while ago now,

945
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: and I kind of thought to I would just put

946
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: on a wig in a black dress and sort of

947
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: be like I'm Alri. I thought I would, I would

948
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: just transform like magically. And then I put on the

949
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: dress and I was like, okay, I look so beefy.

950
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I've never looked more like a football player in my

951
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: entire life, and the hair is making me look I

952
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: look like a Mortal Kombat character. I did not look

953
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: anything like. There was no drag illusion. It was very like,

954
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you look scary, and then I was. But then I

955
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: had so much fun with sort of being this like

956
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: monster that every then the next two years, I was like,

957
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a really bad pop star. So

958
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: then I was Joanne Era Gaga the next year. I

959
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: do remember that. And then I was sw Swish Katie

960
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: Perry the next year.

961
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the only one.

962
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, I want to add one more, which is

963
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: one year we were And this is so cliche at

964
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: this point, so I wouldn't say, looking back, I'm proud

965
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: of it, but we were from Portlandia, the women and

966
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: women first bookstore owners, which at the time felt semi fresh,

967
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: but I understand that it's not anymore, so I apologize publicly.

968
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: So that was sort of a now more than ever moment.

969
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: That was a now more than ever moment.

970
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: And at the time, and this is how dated it was,

971
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: our friend get Ready was Pizza Rat and we have

972
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: a photo where our friend Alison is Pizza Rat and

973
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: we are the women and women first.

974
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: There's something about a Pizza ra At costume or something

975
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: that's so topical though, that really like imprints the time.

976
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: So when you look back and you're like, oh, yeah,

977
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: my friend who was pizza At, that's what was going

978
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 2: on culturally, totally.

979
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of genius. They're actually like a journalist

980
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: of their time.

981
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

982
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Want to be Pizza out this year.

983
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know, are you a Halloween person?

984
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: I do love Halloween. But I think I love more

985
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: of like the non dressing up costume part of Halloween,

986
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Like I like the dick or like the trick or

987
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: treating and all of that kind of leaves and autumn.

988
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: But I most remember my similarly to what you were saying.

989
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: I dressed up as Diane Keaton from Something's Got to

990
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Give and all off right when She's on the beach

991
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: with Jack Nicholson. But I realized when I was putting

992
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: on the costume that I did not look like her,

993
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: and it was going to be confusing and maybe a

994
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: little scary too, because it was just like a get

995
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: hat and like an off white outfit. You know. Then

996
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: I just did I did zombie Diane Keaton from Something's

997
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: Got to Give to really like push it over the

998
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: edge because I just thought, well, I'm gonna be scaring

999
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: people anyway, and at least that felt it felt like

1000
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: a little bit different, Whereas I thought, if I didn't

1001
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: put on the zombie makeup, people would be scared even

1002
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: more by just me as Diane and Something's Got to

1003
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: Give without the zombie bankup. Does that make sense?

1004
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: That does make a lot. I think my ideal I'm

1005
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: trying to think like my goal with a Halloween costume

1006
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: is because it's like what I'm shooting for is like

1007
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: silly exhibitionism.

1008
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh so you want it to be sexy, no.

1009
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: But but there's no sexy in those I just wanted

1010
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: to be like silly and for some reason, like there's

1011
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: an element of like and I'm not wearing pants.

1012
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like you want the illusion of a

1013
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: little sexiness, right, like we're a little yeah yeah, yeah.

1014
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: Here's a great idea. Go as Winnie the Pooh and

1015
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: just be fully nude with a red T shirt. And

1016
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: I just cock out.

1017
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: When I was younger, we would always just wear the

1018
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: same costume every year, and I always would get my

1019
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: brother's hand me down. So I was a vampire for

1020
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: like six years in a row or something. And I

1021
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: do like the idea of not having to plan something

1022
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: every year and just like going into the closet and

1023
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: being like, oh, I'm going to get out the vampire

1024
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: costume again, or like old Faithful, whatever that Old Faithful is.

1025
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: That is something that will always be kind of acceptable

1026
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: as a Halloween costume that you will always have, or

1027
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: even if maybe you have the more specific costume for

1028
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: one party, but then there's another party. You're like, oh,

1029
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: they're not going to get it. Let me just throw

1030
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: on old Faithful.

1031
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I have yeah, go ahead. Well I love the

1032
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: a classic stume.

1033
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1034
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I love people that are like, I'm Dracula, I'm a bat,

1035
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm a witch. I'm because it's like, you know, that's

1036
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: like it's like the singer songwriter of Palloween.

1037
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Cost exactly, it's very chic for like a mom to

1038
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: just get out the cat ears every be like writer

1039
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: for trigger traders. Like she's not like or get out

1040
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: the witch hat, right, and she just like puts on

1041
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: the witch hat. She has a little T shirt that

1042
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: has a pumpkin on it that she got a target

1043
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: and she's just doing it.

1044
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: She's given out candy product not too much.

1045
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then she's also not competing with the children

1046
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: like some kind of insane person.

1047
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1048
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Like you if you need attention that bad, find the stage. Yeah.

1049
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: I when people have too much production value on like

1050
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: their front porch for give me your candy, it's like

1051
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: you need to find something else to do.

1052
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1053
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to find that right perfect balance with

1054
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: the costume or the front porch thing where you're showing

1055
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: some efforts, but you're not overdoing it. Yeah, is it

1056
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: is about the children?

1057
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Is this about the children? Or are you insecure and

1058
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: are you not processing some past trauma or start to

1059
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: find the midway point?

1060
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: Or people I think lean too hard into the sexiness

1061
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: where they go overboard and it becomes unsexy because it's

1062
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: like there's nothing to the imagination, like I want a

1063
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: little I like a little flash of skin or something

1064
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna make you feel like wearing a sexy costume.

1065
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: But but when it goes to when it's they're completely nude,

1066
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: it's almost like, Okay, that's it. I get it, Like

1067
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: it's too much. Does that make sense?

1068
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah,

1069
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, we're talking of course, this is a

1070
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: podcast about straight culture, but if we're talking about gay

1071
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: pet peeves. It's also when someone's like like says, they're

1072
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: a really elaborate costume, and then it's like they're also

1073
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: just sort of naked with like little hints of like

1074
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: like cultural signifiers of that thing. Like it'll be like

1075
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm an airplane and it's like.

1076
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: Okay, but that I love actually to be just likens. Wait,

1077
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: what's that what's funny, what's.

1078
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: The hottest costume to both of you, Like, either you

1079
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: think back and you think that guy was wearing the

1080
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: hot a costume, or you would be really attracted if

1081
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: you saw somebody in such and such.

1082
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean to actually bring it back to something we've

1083
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: already said. One. I do always find it a little

1084
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: bit hot when someone is Mario. I'm like, yeah, I'm

1085
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm in this. This works for me entirely, Like and

1086
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I actually love that you didn't think that hard and

1087
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: you seem chill.

1088
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: Mario is sort of the platonic ideal of a good

1089
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: Halloween costume. It is, as you said before, it is

1090
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: the most inclusive, it's the most universal. It really never

1091
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: gets old.

1092
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can make it as sexy as you want,

1093
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: or at least like I've seen pretty skimpy Luigi costumes,

1094
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: or I've seen ones that they look exactly like the

1095
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: character from the video games.

1096
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: I And then there's also like I do, it's more

1097
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: of a I get into self hatred territory when I

1098
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: am attracted to like just a basic like if someone's.

1099
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: Like I'm the coach or player or something.

1100
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I'm like that is hot and I

1101
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: like hate that, I'm into it. Yeah yeah.

1102
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: Sometimes someone will show up as like a hot boy

1103
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: scout and you're like, god, damn it.

1104
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Just when I thought I was different and better.

1105
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, or yeah we are, man, We are just

1106
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: attracted to those basic, baseline sexy things.

1107
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1108
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: I always like when I'm a baseball player or I

1109
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: like that. And this goes in self hatred territory too,

1110
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: where the football player with like the tight pants like

1111
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: to me. It that sort of brings you back to

1112
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: your childhood of having the crush on the football player

1113
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: or something, even though.

1114
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want them to bully you a bit.

1115
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want a baseball player then takes

1116
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: his bat and it's over that.

1117
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

1118
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm like, do we have anything more to

1119
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: say about Joker and Hurley Quinn.

1120
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: Before you know, I would just encourage your listeners actually

1121
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: to just bookmark this moment because we're going to see

1122
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: how this is affected in the years to come with

1123
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: Joker Part two and how it relates to the gay

1124
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: and straight community, because that's going to be the real

1125
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: focal or testing point.

1126
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: No, I think you're absolutely right.

1127
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: I really think it's a it's a turning point, and

1128
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: I genuinely don't know, because it really could go either way,

1129
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: where maybe it is true that suddenly it becomes like

1130
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: super iconic and every and like drag Queens are doing

1131
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: Lady Joker and it's like a challenge on drag Race.

1132
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: If there was a Joker challenge on drag Race, I

1133
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: would actually be in heaven.

1134
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: I actually want to be surprised if there is one

1135
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: coming up for that one, because I would imagine they're

1136
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: going to lean into Lady Gaga of at all and

1137
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: probably try to market the movie to LGBTQ community to

1138
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: get our dollars because we're all gonna want to see

1139
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: Lady Guy or at least whatever happens with that, So

1140
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: they might be doing some sort of cross campaigning with

1141
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Drag Race or something like. I don't know that it

1142
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: would be that surprising.

1143
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's almost like an algorithmically made perfectly a mass

1144
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: appeal movie, like they have just put everything in there.

1145
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: What would you say is Lady rag and.

1146
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: Then musical Lady Gaga?

1147
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: What would you say would be her outside of that

1148
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: upcoming movie, like her most memorable if somebody was dressing

1149
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: as Lady Goga.

1150
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: I mean there are obvious ones like meat dress, yeah,

1151
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: everyone instantly recognizes that, or like coke can in the hair.

1152
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Cokeine in the hair people love to do. Yeah.

1153
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: It was like a ped costume years ago, which oh

1154
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: the Muppet one, yeah, the curment yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

1155
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean there was like a full five year period

1156
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: where everyone was going as a different Lady gagas for Halloween.

1157
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: I have to share, and a Glee episode about it.

1158
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: There was a Glee episode where everyone, yes, Lady, I

1159
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: think that's I hate myself. I hate myself.

1160
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, to's she here something extremely embarrassing. I

1161
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: remember being in college early Lady Gaga era and being

1162
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: like making a joke on Halloween that was like, no

1163
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: matter what you are, you can just say your Lady

1164
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: Gaga because she just dresses so crazy. And I was

1165
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: literally like.

1166
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: As the Tyranny of the closet, right, there is the

1167
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: Dearny of the closet at a southern university. I cannot

1168
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: believe that. I mean, you were essentially voting for George W.

1169
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: Bush essentially and campaigning for him.

1170
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: A door, and you were coalition building.

1171
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: It is so such a bummer. I mean, talk about

1172
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: now more than ever. I that was a moment that

1173
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: was such a peak of my worst self, and luckily

1174
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: we've moved past it. Wow, we use this podcast a

1175
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: lot to just sort of confess our sins of our past.

1176
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: Well, I am obsessed with the fact that you later

1177
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: a dressed as Katy Perry because of course I'm just

1178
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: now thinking about that Glee episode and again I hate myself.

1179
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: But in that Glee episode, it was like Gaga versus

1180
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: Katy Perry, and then everybody was like siding with one

1181
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: or the others, So people were also dressing up as

1182
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Katy Perry characters or whatever. So it is I don't

1183
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: know where I'm going with this, but it's I don't know,

1184
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: it's just fascinating.

1185
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: Wait, in that episode, they were half Katie half Gaga.

1186
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like some of them were friends with

1187
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: or some of them were fans. I don't remember exactly,

1188
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: I lie, do you remember the plot? It was like

1189
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: who it was at the time of that Roar album,

1190
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: which was I forget which album that was half of,

1191
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: and then the Applause album, and everybody had this idea

1192
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: that the two of them were feuding, and so Glee

1193
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: decided to lean into that where some of them were

1194
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: bigger fans of Katie Perry, some were bigger fans of

1195
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga, and then it culminated in like this mashup

1196
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: of the two songs where half the cast was dressed

1197
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: as a Katie Perry character, half for Justice Lady Gaga.

1198
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: I believe, Am I making that up?

1199
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know that sound, I don't know.

1200
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: There needs to be sounds, right. People need to be

1201
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 3: sentenced to admit that we're involved in that television series.

1202
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: But also the way that I'm worried that it was

1203
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: Mandela effect that I just remember it, it's different.

1204
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I stuck with it long enough

1205
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: to get to that point. But the way that people

1206
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: even younger than us have like nostalgia for that show

1207
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: is very interesting, because like we knew it was stupid

1208
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: in the moment, but we're like, but it's like silly stupid,

1209
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: and we're going to watch some of it.

1210
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's even more insane than you remember. Is

1211
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: that it's sort of like I'm I mean, that's not

1212
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: kind of like how people go back to like America's

1213
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: Top Model and they're like, can you have all of

1214
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: this happens like, yeah, in the moment, you also knew

1215
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: that was offensive.

1216
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: That's true, but it is.

1217
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: But there is something about it, I mean maybe what

1218
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: it is when you look back on something, you have

1219
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: none of the context, so it seems even more ridiculous

1220
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 3: than in the moment. Yeah, and you sort of convince

1221
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: yourself there wasn't a conversation happening. It's like, yeah, when

1222
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: people are watching Glee, there was also a conversation happening

1223
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: around it about how silly it was. Yeah, but when

1224
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: you look back, you're like, wait, so this one the Oscar,

1225
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: It's like, no, do you ever.

1226
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Listen to a podcast where it's the former cast members

1227
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: talking about the show, or even on interviews with the

1228
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: former Glee cast members, And it seems the more time

1229
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: that's gone on, the more I think they're even realizing,

1230
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: like mid interview, how crazy some of the shit was

1231
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 2: and so yeah, or mid they'll be recapping an episode

1232
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: and it's like they're realizing it as they're presenting this,

1233
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: like oh fuck, like that was crazy.

1234
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'll be us one day. Oh my god.

1235
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: I actually have one more thing I want to say

1236
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: about Okay, what is it about Glee? More people should

1237
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: know about Joker. I think more people should go as Batman.

1238
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to going as Batman?

1239
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I went, I went as Batman in college.

1240
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: But oh wow, we did in a closeted way or

1241
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: in a really out and proud way.

1242
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: I kind of both, I think, because I was closeted

1243
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: at the time. But I we all my roommates and

1244
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: I were all going as different superhero characters. But the

1245
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: Batman costume was the child's one at the store, and

1246
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: so I had to like I had to wear Batman

1247
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: boxers over the tights because it was like so revealing,

1248
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: and so it ended up being, I guess somewhere in

1249
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: the middle where it was like not an adult costume.

1250
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: And I think that's a good way maybe for listeners

1251
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: if they're wanting to experiment with some of these straight costumes,

1252
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: maybe like go for the child's size.

1253
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually less expensive too the.

1254
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Child, Oh sure, and better for the environment in the

1255
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: garbage instantly, and actually you're polluting less way, less less microplastics.

1256
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, out and show a little more skin and you're

1257
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: helping save the sea turtles.

1258
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. This is actually a great you know call to

1259
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: action in general is like the slut of your costume,

1260
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: the less wasteful it is. Yeah, a really good point, right.

1261
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say I'm going to go out

1262
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: on the limit and say to me, no more superhero

1263
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: costumes of any kind. Let's take a five year break.

1264
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, wow, Like, I think I think it's time.

1265
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: I would recommend maybe if you are someone who wants

1266
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: to do let's say Batman, a clever twist on it

1267
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: would be, order a Batman costume from like nineteen eighty five,

1268
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: or from a different era, let's say, just at least

1269
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I beg of you. Or if you're doing Harley Quinn

1270
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: or Joker, maybe pick a different version of Harley Quinner

1271
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: Joker that we haven't seen a million times instead of

1272
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: that same one with the bat and that base a

1273
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: shirt on Harley Quinn, Like, let's pick a more obscure

1274
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: version of it.

1275
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a great point too, which is

1276
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: the props surrounding Halloween costumes. I do think if it

1277
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: has like a large prop like a baseball bat, you

1278
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: you should be disqualified. I agree, I think props are

1279
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: a red flag.

1280
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: Yet also, like, literally, what are you planning on doing

1281
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: with that prop? When you're at the party.

1282
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: You're literally just gonna put it in a corner and

1283
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: then leave it and forget about it.

1284
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: Your body is your canvas use it. Well, you're not

1285
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: building a sculpture. I'm making a painting, one hundred percent.

1286
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: I actually feel the same way with like too many

1287
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: reveals on drag Race and like yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1288
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: let's focus, let's let's enough with the bells and whistles. Yeah,

1289
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: show me, show me something good.

1290
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

1291
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: The only way a prop works for me is like

1292
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: a cigarette or something that you know goes with it,

1293
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: that you could is also useful in that way. Literally,

1294
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: I want the cigarette and so it goes with the

1295
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: costume totally.

1296
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: And by the way, speaking of cigarettes, I want to

1297
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: see more corral us.

1298
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of cigarettes, I want to see

1299
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: more cruelas.

1300
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, and I want to see the Korrellas

1301
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: from the original animated movie Big yellow fur, Yes, and cigarette.

1302
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: So that's my challenge. That's a straighter lib challenge for

1303
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: Halloween twenty twenty three. More correllas.

1304
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: Well. The obvious final question is like, do we know

1305
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: what we're going to be for Halloween this year?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I don't think any of us

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Speaker 3: can reveal it. I mean, this episode's gonna come out

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Speaker 3: before the big reveal when we're all going to be

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Speaker 3: Destiny's Child.

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Speaker 2: Together, but not the main Justiny's Child. We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: the ones who are like, Yeah, we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be like exactly exactly. I mean, do you want to

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Speaker 3: say what you're gonna be?

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem is I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either. Yeah, I don't know either.

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Speaker 1: Well I do, but I'm not gonna say, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: did you tell me already?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I'll say we can bleep it. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, should we do any.

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Speaker 3: Last thoughts on Joker and Harley Quinn?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm expecting to see it for years

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Speaker 2: to come. It's just something that I would just encourage

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Speaker 2: everyone to at least rethink or spend a moment or

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Speaker 2: two to just if you're out there listening, just think

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Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, whether or not you'd go through with it,

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Speaker 2: it's a different story, but just at least remember that

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a million other of those costumes

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Speaker 2: out and we've seen it a million times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I co sign, I co sign as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, should we do our final segment, Danny.

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Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this

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Speaker 1: segment we pay homage to the great straight oral tradition

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Speaker 1: of the radio shout out and give a shout out

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Speaker 1: to anything that we are enjoying. George and I will

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Speaker 1: go first, but you know, imagine it's TRL two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one. You're shouting out to your squad back home,

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Speaker 1: but about anything that you like. And George, do you

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Speaker 1: have one? I did before I came in here, and

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Speaker 1: now it's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what's up, boys and girls? I want

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Speaker 3: to give a shout out to basically, I want to

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Speaker 3: give a shout out to me listening to the audiobook

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Speaker 3: of the book Doppelganger by Naomi Klein, which you know,

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Speaker 3: look it up, great thinker, great chronicler of chronicler of

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Speaker 3: our time.

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Speaker 1: She reads her own audiobook, And.

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Speaker 3: I really want to give a shout out to basically

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Speaker 3: me becoming sort of a like perpetually scared liberal Facebook

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Speaker 3: mom because of everything that is being said in the book,

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Speaker 3: to the point where I'm literally unable to have a

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Speaker 3: conversation because I'm like, well, did you know that she

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Speaker 3: says that language doesn't mean anything anymore, and actually there's

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Speaker 3: nowhere to go but down. I am feeling hopeless, more

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Speaker 3: so than I've ever felt in the past. I have

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Speaker 3: literally zero optimism about the future, and I feel great

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Speaker 3: about it's sister, So go out there and listen to

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Speaker 3: the book. It lasts literally a billion hours, and she

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Speaker 3: keeps making me more hopeless. And then when she tries

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Speaker 3: to be a little hopeful, and she's like, that's why

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Speaker 3: we need collective movements as examples, no footage found and

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, thanks, queen. So yeah, I think we

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Speaker 3: have a lot to learn from her. But also, you know,

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Speaker 3: everyone make your own decisions.

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Speaker 5: I guess woo whoo, okay, okay, okay, all right, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna try it.

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Speaker 4: What is up everyone around the world.

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Speaker 1: I want to give a huge shout out to the

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Speaker 1: you know, the the knowing that when you see someone

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Speaker 1: you don't need to stop and talk to them if

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Speaker 1: it's a place where you shouldn't stop and talk. I

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Speaker 1: go to a gym woo, and often I see people

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Speaker 1: I know there. We go at the same time. Some

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Speaker 1: of these people I've literally known for a decade. We

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Speaker 1: have been friends, and we are friends, and yet I

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Speaker 1: see them and we just hi and then keep going

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Speaker 1: nothing more and even sometimes a little bit less, And

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Speaker 1: I find it's so nice just be like I see you,

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Speaker 1: you see me, and now we're going to ignore each

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Speaker 1: other for a full hour. I think people who can

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Speaker 1: tastefully ignore each other are doing you a cer and

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Speaker 1: you are doing them a service back. It is an

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Speaker 1: art form and it needs to be respected, and talking

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Speaker 1: should be illegal. Say hello, give a nod, and get

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Speaker 1: back to lifting. Mama.

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Speaker 3: Whooo, wow, that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Even a little just a not even a full hand

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Speaker 2: wave hello, I think is good sometimes just like a

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Speaker 2: little like almost one finger kind of pops up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's really an incredible feeling.

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Speaker 3: No, that is so true, especially like I used to

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Speaker 3: when I first moved to New York, I didn't I

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Speaker 3: hadn't sort of gotten used to the fact that, like

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Speaker 3: you run into people all the time, like if you're

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Speaker 3: on the subway, you probably will see So I used

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Speaker 3: to think it was like an insane coincidence, and I

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Speaker 3: would truly stop and be like, how have you been,

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Speaker 3: Like when we were like on the stairs in like

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Speaker 3: the Penn station, stop and it's like, no, you actually

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Speaker 3: just have to ignore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tasteful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Danny.

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Speaker 2: Should I do my shout out? Okay, yes, yes, hello everyone,

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Speaker 2: and Danny publick Reno and and I don't want you

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Speaker 2: to all get my book. It's called Jolliest Bunch, which

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Speaker 2: you can order now. It's also availed on audio if

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Speaker 2: you want to listen to it. But I want to

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Speaker 2: shout out a two things aside from that. One is

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Speaker 2: grocery store music. I just think I'm so grateful for

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Speaker 2: everybody who's whoever's curating these playlists. They at your local

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Speaker 2: grocery stores. They are the perfect soft rack stations. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if people are just all all these

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Speaker 2: grocery stores are picking up on a specific station, or

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Speaker 2: if they're curating their own playlist or what's going on,

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Speaker 2: But the grocery stores are playing the best music. You're

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Speaker 2: hearing Natalie Bruleia Torn in Between Atlantis, Morse Set and

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Speaker 2: Sophie B. Hawkins, or you know, it's the soft rock

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Speaker 2: that you can only hear in a grocery store while

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Speaker 2: you're picking up for that. And then I also want

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Speaker 2: to say there was a movie called I Had to

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Speaker 2: look it up because I forgot the name. We love

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Speaker 2: it first sight on Netflix. It's sort of a brom

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Speaker 2: Commie Hayley Lou Richardson is her name, the young gal

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Speaker 2: from White Lotus two season, and I put it on it.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be like one of

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Speaker 2: those teen movies, love teen movies that they're like the

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Speaker 2: kissing booth kind of situation. And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. I'm just saying that I did ultimately really

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it, and I watched it twice because I liked

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Speaker 2: too much. Just got a really cute guy named Ben Hardy.

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Speaker 2: But it's a kind of a love story and there's

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Speaker 2: some drama and uh there's a depth and all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff, which it's not. Hopefully it's not a spoiler,

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Speaker 2: because I think that was in the trailer. But if

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Speaker 2: it was a spoiler, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: But watch it. Wow, Wow it twice? Who knew?

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Speaker 2: And probably your listeners are going to watch and be

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Speaker 2: like it was not.

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Speaker 6: Good, But I love I think that was beautiful, a

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Speaker 6: beautiful to cinema. Well, thank you bye Danny's book The

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Speaker 6: Jolliest Bunch, and thank you so much for doing this

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Speaker 6: so the podcast people with.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a huge fan of both of you, so

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Speaker 2: thank you for taking the time and having you.

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Speaker 3: Happy Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Alright, bye guys, thank you.