Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for joining us on this Park Copper
Speaker 1: episode of Magical Rewind. We are so excited to talk
Speaker 1: to our guest today, who has done one or two
Speaker 1: projects in his career, a couple of things here or there.
Speaker 1: So we really can't wait, Sabrina, I know that you're
Speaker 1: a fan.
Speaker 2: I love him. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Well, then I will let you talk to I'll let
Speaker 1: you do most of the talking then, because it seems
Speaker 1: like be great, so please help us. Welcome d KI.
Speaker 2: Hey are okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much for joining us. Yes, now
Speaker 1: we know you've done you know, hundreds and hundreds, if
Speaker 1: not thousands, of interviews. Is this the first time that
Speaker 1: you're doing an interview based solely on the thirteenth year?
Speaker 3: It is, yes, And I'm so honored because I'm amazed
Speaker 3: that people still remember that movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's are you kidding? It's great? So I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're aware of this, but it's age so
Speaker 1: well that Complex has it listed as the seventeenth best
Speaker 1: Disney Channel movie of all time, and.
Speaker 4: That's out of my teenth hundreds, out of hundreds of movies.
Speaker 3: I should get a trophy of some kind for something.
Speaker 1: Yes, everybody gets a trophy nowadays, Dave, everybody gets a trophy.
Speaker 4: Against movies like High School Musical Descendants, all these big,
Speaker 4: heavy hitters, and you guys are still I mean, it's
Speaker 4: aged so well and the resurgence from Disney Plus has
Speaker 4: brought it back into a new generation of viewers, which
Speaker 4: is awesome.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't see it, but from my waist down,
Speaker 3: I'm a fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We figured I was.
Speaker 4: I was planning on wearing my fishtail too, but I
Speaker 4: felt like it'd be uncomfortable to sit too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're made for swimming. They're made for swimming.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time that you heard about
Speaker 1: this film? I mean, I can't imagine you auditioned for it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they just offered it to you. Did you
Speaker 1: know what it was going in because the title really
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you what this movie's about.
Speaker 3: It doesn't. And then I read the script and I
Speaker 3: went into Disney and uh, you know, I went in
Speaker 3: prepared to audition. There were sides and everything, and I
Speaker 3: went in and they just we just started talking and
Speaker 3: they said, okay, here's our start date. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: we're not going to read or anything. You know, but
Speaker 3: it was never brought up. It was like, okay, well
Speaker 3: we'll call your agents and this is a start date.
Speaker 3: We're so happy that you're going to do this project.
Speaker 3: And it was like I just walked in and then
Speaker 3: I was doing a movie about a kid who turns
Speaker 3: into a fish.
Speaker 4: It was like, okay, really, do you remember when the
Speaker 4: last time you've actually on a chance to watch this, Like,
Speaker 4: has it been forever or a long time?
Speaker 2: Long time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, longer than last week. Uh, it's it's been a
Speaker 3: long time probably since it came out, to be honest.
Speaker 4: With you, really, Yeah, it seemed like a fun character.
Speaker 4: There's also the you know, the boat Captain Big John.
Speaker 4: That character is such a charactery kind of play, Like
Speaker 4: you could have done that one. I mean, they could
Speaker 4: have basically just offered to tell us which one you
Speaker 4: would like to do.
Speaker 2: You could do the coach.
Speaker 1: You could do whatever.
Speaker 4: I was up for the boat for the actual boat
Speaker 4: got it, actual Boat Defiance.
Speaker 1: I can see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was up for that too, so that I
Speaker 3: probably would have had to audition for. I would have
Speaker 3: had to read for the boat.
Speaker 1: Now, so we're we do all this research as we're
Speaker 1: trying to prepare for these. And I mean, obviously, at
Speaker 1: this point in your career you've been on New Heart,
Speaker 1: you're doing Coach, Full House. I mean, you name it.
Speaker 1: It's one thing after another. But you hadn't done a
Speaker 1: whole lot of films, had you. Was this one of
Speaker 1: your first?
Speaker 3: No, it was actually yes. And actually my first SAG
Speaker 3: job was a cheech and Chong film and I played
Speaker 3: a guy who I have a long tongue. So in
Speaker 3: my audition I stuck my tongue out and I said, Okay,
Speaker 3: you'll do that in the movie. And it was a
Speaker 3: movie called Things Are Tough All Over. So that was
Speaker 3: actually how I kind of broke into SAG. Was was
Speaker 3: with that movie. I got taffed heart lead nice and Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that was my That was my first foray into
Speaker 3: anything that was major. And then I guess the movie
Speaker 3: business kind of passed me by and kicked me over
Speaker 3: to television.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I also when the television they're kicking you
Speaker 1: to is New Heart and Coach and then Full House,
Speaker 1: it's not a bad place to be kicked to if
Speaker 1: if you're honest, right, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Been a heck of a nice journey with really great people,
Speaker 3: and I'm so lucky and so thankful to have had
Speaker 3: this little roller coaster ride that I've been on. And
Speaker 3: I still appreciate it, and I still sit here in
Speaker 3: my little comedy laboratory and try and kick stuff out,
Speaker 3: and you know it. Full House, of course, is kind
Speaker 3: of the pinnacle because it's it's a show that has
Speaker 3: inspired and been watched by a couple generations now and
Speaker 3: we're still on. We've never been off the air since
Speaker 3: we premiered on ABC in nineteen eighty seven. It's wow
Speaker 3: lay through worldwide syndication and over one hundred countries, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of the energizer Bunny of residuals.
Speaker 2: It just keeps coming nice.
Speaker 4: Well, we know that the atmosphere on set for you
Speaker 4: guys on Full House was such a family oriented vibe
Speaker 4: that you guys were really great to your young actors.
Speaker 4: Were you able to kind of feel that vibe or
Speaker 4: is it tough not being you know, a weekly job.
Speaker 2: This was just six week shoot.
Speaker 4: Were you able to still feel like you were able
Speaker 4: to connect with your younger actors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I already had that kind of vibe from
Speaker 3: working with the kids on Full House and Chez Starbuck
Speaker 3: was the star of this movie, and he was a newbie,
Speaker 3: and my feeling was, you know, treat everybody, no matter
Speaker 3: how small the role, just treat him as an equal.
Speaker 3: That's always kind of been my thing, like, Hey, we're
Speaker 3: all in this together. We're all trying to make this
Speaker 3: into the best possible movie we can. So I'm always
Speaker 3: supportive of people. I mean, I'll run people's lines even
Speaker 3: if I'm not in the same scene with them. You know,
Speaker 3: I like helping people. It's good, it helps the process,
Speaker 3: and I think it's just it's just good for everybody.
Speaker 3: It makes you want to show up for work when
Speaker 3: you're welcomed that way, you know. And I realized at
Speaker 3: that point that those kids were looking up to me,
Speaker 3: and the last thing you want to do is is
Speaker 3: disappoint a young actor. You want to make them feel
Speaker 3: encouraged and welcomed and you're you know, you're on your
Speaker 3: way to being successful. And you know, that's the kind
Speaker 3: of vibe that I tried to project on this movie.
Speaker 1: Wow, well you can tell. I mean it seemed like
Speaker 1: everybody was having a good time. Do you remember the shoot?
Speaker 1: It was what six weeks? And actually this is you're
Speaker 1: you're in a rarefied air when it comes to dcoms
Speaker 1: because we've we've found out that ninety five percent of
Speaker 1: them are shot in either Canada or in Utah. That's
Speaker 1: it unless they need an ocean. So now you're in
Speaker 1: southern California and you're shooting kind of in the San
Speaker 1: Pager area and popping around that area. What what was
Speaker 1: it like shooting the movie?
Speaker 3: It was cool, it was it was it was a
Speaker 3: place I'd never been before. I'd never been to that
Speaker 3: area of Long Beach before, down by the dots, so
Speaker 3: it was it was kind of weird. But once we
Speaker 3: settled into where our set was down in this little
Speaker 3: marina with this lighthouse and everything, it was a really
Speaker 3: cool vibe. So it was a really fun shoot. It
Speaker 3: was It was like nothing I had ever shot before,
Speaker 3: even the full house opening title stuff that we shot
Speaker 3: in San Francisco there on the wharf and everything. This
Speaker 3: was cool all by itself.
Speaker 1: Your wife in the movie, Leslie Stall, you two seem
Speaker 1: to really have some great chemistry and she exploded onto
Speaker 1: the scene after George Michael's Careless Whisper video, which to
Speaker 1: me is just about the coolest thing I'd ever heard.
Speaker 1: Did you guys have a good connection and do you
Speaker 1: I guess that leads to a bigger question, which is
Speaker 1: do you actually see anybody from the film anymore? Are
Speaker 1: you in touch with anybody from the film?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. That was kind of one of
Speaker 3: those you know, that was a great fun project and
Speaker 3: you know, hugs all around, and I hope I see
Speaker 3: you guys, But it was just I kept in touch
Speaker 3: with one of the producers, Michael Mike Jacobs Junior, and
Speaker 3: he was a great guy. And I'm not even sure
Speaker 3: what Mike's doing nowadays. You know, you guys know, in
Speaker 3: what we do, sometimes you do a project and you
Speaker 3: make friends forever, and then you do another project and
Speaker 3: you just came together to work on that project and
Speaker 3: you may not ever see those people again. So it's
Speaker 3: just kind of the nature of what we do and
Speaker 3: that happens, and sometimes you have those long lasting friendships
Speaker 3: and other times it's just, hey, we were work buddies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, especially before social media where.
Speaker 2: You guys can kind of connect instantly.
Speaker 4: You know, or where you start promoting it together through
Speaker 4: social media. That helps a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 4: this time during dcom's. They were doing a lot of them.
Speaker 4: I mean they had a couple going on at the
Speaker 4: same time sometimes, So it is true. You know, actors,
Speaker 4: they're six weeks to shoot something is not that long's
Speaker 4: and you know, you.
Speaker 3: Fall in love, you get married, and you get divorced,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a shame, but it's actually true. You're
Speaker 1: just they throw everybody together and you hope it works out,
Speaker 1: and you usually like the people you're working with, and
Speaker 1: then it's hey, thank you very much. Yeah. So one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting things that we noticed about the
Speaker 1: crew was your director, Dwayne Dunney.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, who had one of the coolest.
Speaker 1: Most interesting histories in the industry. Did you know the
Speaker 1: stuff that he had done before he came on to
Speaker 1: shoot this film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I was already a fan, so I
Speaker 3: was really excited to work with him, and he was
Speaker 3: so fun to work with. And then it turned out
Speaker 3: his wife worked at the dentist office in Santa Monica
Speaker 3: where I for my dentist, and she was the most
Speaker 3: lovely lady and she goes boy. Ok, I went in,
Speaker 3: she goes boy. Dwayne. Sure, he had fun working with
Speaker 3: you on that movie. I went, well, how do you know, Dwayne.
Speaker 3: She goes, that's my husband. I go, gosh, she's up
Speaker 3: north and he lives up north in northern California. She goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I live down here. I work down here. And then
Speaker 3: he comes down and I'm like, I would have never
Speaker 3: put this together.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how done life?
Speaker 3: You know? And she was such a sweetheart, but she
Speaker 3: would always every time I'd go in get my teeth clean,
Speaker 3: she go oh, Dwayne says high. You know, so it
Speaker 3: was nice.
Speaker 1: Would you if you had to sit there and geek
Speaker 1: out with him over anything? Would it have been his
Speaker 1: involvement in the Star Wars franchise or with Twin Peaks?
Speaker 3: Probably leaning heavily towards the Star Wars stuffy Yeah, Twin
Speaker 3: Peaks was one of those things. I was working during
Speaker 3: Twin Peaks, so I never got to really get into it,
Speaker 3: but I did play hockey. Was Sherylyn Fenn's brother.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, Leo.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry it sounds like every story I have
Speaker 3: is attached to somebody, but it really is.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, that's awesome, the nature, that's just really.
Speaker 4: I know you were so you were so busy at
Speaker 4: this at this time, and but this was such a
Speaker 4: huge success for the channel. They had around eight million
Speaker 4: viewers for the premiere, which is very big, you know huge.
Speaker 4: Were they making it a big deal or were you
Speaker 4: even able to even stop and realize how big of
Speaker 4: a success this was or during that time of your
Speaker 4: career it was kind of like, yeah, great, moving on
Speaker 4: on to the next Like how how does that happen
Speaker 4: when you're going from things like big, big, big projects
Speaker 4: and just doubling it up every time you go to
Speaker 4: the next one.
Speaker 1: Basically, I have to.
Speaker 3: Be totally honest with you, Sabrina, I I really didn't
Speaker 3: know the status of the movie or you know, had
Speaker 3: it been a theatrical release where I could have seen
Speaker 3: the numbers or you know, you see it in Variety
Speaker 3: and you go, oh, here's you know, this weekend or whatever.
Speaker 3: But this was television, so there was really no way
Speaker 3: for me to track it. I had heard from from
Speaker 3: Mike Jacobs that he said, hey, the movie's doing great,
Speaker 3: But by that time, by the time we we wrapped,
Speaker 3: to the time where it finally got edited and then
Speaker 3: it got a slot on Disney, it was a long time.
Speaker 3: So there really wasn't that time of ooh, man, I
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta keep my ear to the ground on
Speaker 3: this one, you know. So No, I really didn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't know how it was doing. I had kind of heard,
Speaker 3: but by then it was you know. And then I
Speaker 3: heard from a Disney executive. Years after that, I went
Speaker 3: in to pitch something and he said, you know, we
Speaker 3: need another thirteenth Year. And I said, oh, okay, I
Speaker 3: got something for you. Is Martian It's okay. We have
Speaker 3: like spaceships and stuff like you know that'll yeah. But
Speaker 3: but I guess, in a roundabout way to answer your question,
Speaker 3: I really had no idea how it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 1: Does anyone ever like have you ever in your career
Speaker 1: had somebody come up and just start talking to you
Speaker 1: about the thirteenth Year? Is that one that has ever
Speaker 1: happened to you before?
Speaker 3: Boy, I would love to say yes because we're talking
Speaker 3: about it, but really no, really no. You know, there's
Speaker 3: been a little offshoot conversations here and there where, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe if I'm at one of the cons or something,
Speaker 3: there will be those Disney people and go, hey, I
Speaker 3: really love doing the thirteenth Year. You know, I know
Speaker 3: you're here for the full House, you know, but I
Speaker 3: really love to do.
Speaker 1: Wait, we get that a lot with with the dcoms.
Speaker 1: We get people that will say I have net will
Speaker 1: be like, you're in the third most popular dcom ever, Like,
Speaker 1: no one's ever mentioned to me once that about this
Speaker 1: Decom's like.
Speaker 4: Okay, or if it happens, it's like shock, Like, oh
Speaker 4: you watch that?
Speaker 2: That's so cool? What about these other giant movies that
Speaker 2: I've done?
Speaker 4: But no, No, it's this decon that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Can we go back a little bit and talk about
Speaker 1: your start in the industry?
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, the stand up You started in stand up?
Speaker 3: Right? I did. I started in kind of a golden
Speaker 3: age of stand up. I slept on Bob Saggat's couch
Speaker 3: when I was nineteen years old, So I mean, I
Speaker 3: go back to those days. Me, Gary Shandling and Bob
Speaker 3: Saggatt were really close buddies. And Brad Gray was our
Speaker 3: manager who Brad later became like the chairman of Paramount Studios.
Speaker 3: Was partnered with another legend, Bernie Berlstein, And you would
Speaker 3: go into their office and you'd see Danny Ackroyd, and
Speaker 3: you'd see Martin Short or Steve Martin or Lauren Michaels
Speaker 3: or you name it. That. It was just kind of
Speaker 3: a revolving door. We would just go and hang out
Speaker 3: at their office because it was fun, and you know
Speaker 3: it was it was a really incredible time to be
Speaker 3: a stand up in the late, you know, the early eighties.
Speaker 3: I mean my group was Dennis Miller, Louis Anderson, Jim Carrey,
Speaker 3: Howie Mandel, Jerry Seinfeld, Carrey Shandling, Saggott. You know, it
Speaker 3: was pretty much you know, you'd you'd walk off stage
Speaker 3: and Robin Williams would be coming on, or you'd walk
Speaker 3: off stage at the Comedy Store mainroom and and Prior
Speaker 3: would high five you. You know, it was. It was
Speaker 3: a pretty special time. And you know we were all unknowns,
Speaker 3: but you couldn't with that group, you really couldn't, you know,
Speaker 3: and Leno and Letterman and Dana Carvey. I mean, the
Speaker 3: list just keeps going on and on, and you know
Speaker 3: it was so wonderful and Roseanne and you know, Sarah Silverman,
Speaker 3: all these wonderful people. It was. It was really a
Speaker 3: time though, when you were in those Hollywood rooms like
Speaker 3: the Improv or the Comedy Store, you couldn't lay off.
Speaker 3: You couldn't like do a set that you would do
Speaker 3: on the road. You had to go up and kind
Speaker 3: of do your A material. If you're following Seinfeld, you know,
Speaker 3: you couldn't just go up and go, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: try a few things. Here's my notepad. You know, anybody here,
Speaker 3: why would you eat a duck? You know? You know.
Speaker 3: So it was that kind of a feeling, but it
Speaker 3: really made you, you know, play your A game every night.
Speaker 3: You knew you had to be great once you made
Speaker 3: it on that stage, at that level. It's funny. Someone
Speaker 3: just asked me the other night, you know, have you
Speaker 3: ever worked with Richard Pryor? And I said, like, every
Speaker 3: night at the comedy store, you know, I would sit
Speaker 3: and watch him. He was like masterful. It was like
Speaker 3: a master class in how do you go from zero
Speaker 3: to one thousand in eight weeks? You know, and in
Speaker 3: prior had the ability to do that. I have a
Speaker 3: comedy store poster. We just moved into a new house,
Speaker 3: so we were looking through all this old stuff and
Speaker 3: storage and going through going oh, I don't need that.
Speaker 3: It's it's my old bowling trophy from seventh grade. I
Speaker 3: don't need that. What in there? So in there there
Speaker 3: was a comedy poster from the Comedy Store main room
Speaker 3: and the lineup was Argus Hamilton and then Jimmy Brogan,
Speaker 3: me Arsinio, Jeff Altman, Saggot Shandling, Robin Williams, and Richard Pryor.
Speaker 3: That was the lineup. And you know, I looked at
Speaker 3: that and I said, you know, at the time, I
Speaker 3: didn't realize where I was. I was just like, oh boy,
Speaker 3: I got to do a good set tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that I was in this immersed in
Speaker 3: this world of great people around me. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I was peddling the bike as
Speaker 3: fast as I could, so I couldn't really stop and
Speaker 3: just kind of breathe and take it all in and go, wow,
Speaker 3: I'm on stage with with some some you know, because
Speaker 3: we were still unknowns. There were a lot of those
Speaker 3: guys weren't known yet, like me and Ursineo and Gary
Speaker 3: and Bob, you know, we weren't known. And you know,
Speaker 3: but prior in Robin Williams, you know, I would just go, Wow,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call my mom tell her about this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it was pretty cool. It was a really cool time.
Speaker 1: I mean, now, I always wonder about this because you
Speaker 1: you list names like that, where it's just one banger
Speaker 1: after the next. Of all these incredible comedians, was there
Speaker 1: a person, especially from that era, that you saw that
Speaker 1: you would have put all your money on that was
Speaker 1: just never given the opportunity to break the way you
Speaker 1: thought they would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were quite a few of those. And and
Speaker 3: some them we're so talented and you've never heard of them.
Speaker 3: Some just never got the breaks. Some sniffed a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff up their nostrils or shoved stuff, you know, whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, so that you could see their career slowly
Speaker 3: dying on the vine because of something, you know, whether
Speaker 3: it was not paying attention or not, you know, having
Speaker 3: a work ethic because comics, you know, we have weird hours.
Speaker 3: You know, it was you fall asleep at four in
Speaker 3: the morning because you had a set at one point fifteen,
Speaker 3: you know, and you didn't get off stage till then,
Speaker 3: and you're amped up and you fall asleep at four,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's kind of tough to have a
Speaker 3: normal life with those stand up hours, especially on the road,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're doing seventy eight nine ten shows
Speaker 3: a week and you're you're living that lifestyle. So I
Speaker 3: saw plenty of people who are really super talented, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they were just kind of had
Speaker 3: faded away and they weren't in they weren't in the lineup,
Speaker 3: or they weren't you weren't seeing their name on the
Speaker 3: posters and the comedy clubs. But there was always that
Speaker 3: that group you know that you just knew, Uh, it's
Speaker 3: just a matter of time before you know, she's on
Speaker 3: a series or he's you know, great or whatever. Because
Speaker 3: we all watched each other. It was such a small world,
Speaker 3: you know, when when one of us did the Tonight
Speaker 3: Show with Johnny Carson, you know, everybody was like so
Speaker 3: so we watched each other closely because that was the bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 3: It was exciting and terrifying and weird all at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. About what about now?
Speaker 4: Are there any young comedians that you have really fallen
Speaker 4: in love with and enjoy what they're doing now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love Sebastian Menace, cal Too is so great.
Speaker 3: You know, I love so many of the young comics there.
Speaker 3: There's so much talent. Now, it's I'm glad, I'm glad
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it now because it's so competitive and
Speaker 3: it's it's really inspiring for me to see, especially in
Speaker 3: the world that we live in, you know, which can
Speaker 3: be so politically correct and and people are really super
Speaker 3: hyper sensitive towards certain topics, I think, depending on the
Speaker 3: swing any other way on that. But you know, the
Speaker 3: thing about it is, you don't ever want to not
Speaker 3: have comedy because comedy peels away that social strata that
Speaker 3: exists where everybody's thinking it, but the comic's going to
Speaker 3: go on stage and stand in a microphone and actually
Speaker 3: say it, and that's why it's funny. And another thing is,
Speaker 3: you know, we need to talk about our differences because
Speaker 3: we are different as cultures, as races, as people, as genders, whatever.
Speaker 3: We need to talk about all that stuff because we're
Speaker 3: not all the same. And right now there's this weird
Speaker 3: thing that's going on where we're all the same and
Speaker 3: everybody's in the same class and everybody's equal. Well, life's not,
Speaker 3: and you know, we really need to keep the dialogue
Speaker 3: open to you know, like it's a shame because there
Speaker 3: should be a Don Rickles right now. There should be
Speaker 3: there should be a Richard pryor right now. You know,
Speaker 3: there's you really need a Joe Rivers. You really need
Speaker 3: you know, the Lily Tomlins of the world. You need
Speaker 3: those people that are going to Gilda Radnurs, you know,
Speaker 3: so it's chrderful, George Carlin. You need those people who
Speaker 3: are going to make fun of us, because we need
Speaker 3: to laugh at ourselves. And when we lose the ability
Speaker 3: to laugh at ourselves, we're all in trouble. And I
Speaker 3: think we're seeing some of that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: It's not about indpointing and making fun of someone. It's
Speaker 4: being able to make fun of yourself well, you know,
Speaker 4: whatever that kind of is. And keeping the humor in
Speaker 4: our lives is what's going to keep us living and
Speaker 4: laughing longer than honing in on the negativity of it.
Speaker 2: And that is hard.
Speaker 4: I have to imagine for stand up comedians that'll go
Speaker 4: up there, put themselves out there, and you know, I
Speaker 4: hope that it's not a big swarm of getting ripped
Speaker 4: apart about doing something that you love to do.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, it's the physical stuff. Now that's so
Speaker 1: scary when you see the comedians, is that there's there
Speaker 1: now at one point seemed to be kind of an
Speaker 1: open season on you know, running on, rushing on stage
Speaker 1: and things where it's well, you insulted me, so I can't.
Speaker 1: It's getting crazy where it's like no, you got they're comedians,
Speaker 1: this is this is their job, this is what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to do.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's what you paid money to me.
Speaker 1: That's what you can see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know, and and and and here's the
Speaker 3: other thing. Don't go to a comedy club and.
Speaker 5: Then go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like, don't go out, just don't go on,
Speaker 3: don't leave your apartment, don't go out, because you should
Speaker 3: go out to hear someone going over the line. That's
Speaker 3: what you're going out for. You know. Stay home if
Speaker 3: you want to be safe, and you only want to
Speaker 3: hear safe things.
Speaker 4: Hit the back row if you don't want to be
Speaker 4: made fun of. That's what I do. I do not
Speaker 4: go sit myself.
Speaker 2: In the front open target.
Speaker 4: I find a good table where I can still see
Speaker 4: and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: You could do that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, comedy is a jungle, and you know you're going
Speaker 3: to see all kinds of species in the jungle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you better be prepared to see some wild stuff and
Speaker 3: hear some wild stuff. That's what comedy is. And if
Speaker 3: you don't allow comedians to push the limits as far
Speaker 3: as they can, you're not going to be able to discover, uh,
Speaker 3: really funny stuff by being safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I agree. Well, you're talking about some of
Speaker 1: the funniest people around. You're also did a show for
Speaker 1: years highlighting some of America's funniest people. That's my segue.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And I was just wondering because
Speaker 1: there was a time where you would have guest hosts
Speaker 1: come on with you. You had this wonderful, incredible, really
Speaker 1: funny young talent named Wilfredell who came on and hosted
Speaker 1: a show with you. I came on, I did one show.
Speaker 1: It was a ton of fun. But I'm wondering, off
Speaker 1: the top of your head, can you think of like
Speaker 1: one of the funniest videos of people that you saw
Speaker 1: that pops like, you know, if you think back of
Speaker 1: all the years the show was on, is there one
Speaker 1: that just goes, well, there was this one guy or
Speaker 1: this one gal that just comes right back to you.
Speaker 3: There were a few, you know, we did four seasons
Speaker 3: of that show, so there was a lot of different
Speaker 3: clips and things, and I usually didn't watch the clips,
Speaker 3: they would assemble them together. I would fly to Florida
Speaker 3: host two of the shows, and then fly back and
Speaker 3: get back to LA to do full House. But occasionally,
Speaker 3: you know, the ones that percolated the top. I always
Speaker 3: loved the impressionists, people who would do impressions, you know,
Speaker 3: the men and women came on and even if it
Speaker 3: was a silly, stupid impression like this is my grandmother
Speaker 3: brushing her teeth, it just you know, maybe I'm a simpleton,
Speaker 3: but it made me laugh those because they were so genuine,
Speaker 3: you know, because everybody can do like one impression. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody's got one in their back pocket, like Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do Sally Fields. Uh, you know stepping stepping on
Speaker 3: a turtle, like okay, put them all.
Speaker 1: In, let's sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you want to see something very funny from that show,
Speaker 1: if you can find the clip of me on the
Speaker 1: show you introduce me and I have to run down
Speaker 1: a staircase and I.
Speaker 5: Run down in the weirdest, most just bizarre way to
Speaker 5: where my mom called me and asked if something was
Speaker 5: wrong with my legs. So if you can find that
Speaker 5: of me, kind of duck running down the staircase with
Speaker 5: Dave kok It.
Speaker 4: It happened to you right before you and it was
Speaker 4: very strange.
Speaker 3: Did we please find that we.
Speaker 2: Have Noney right now?
Speaker 4: Our producers are, They're on it.
Speaker 1: That was so strange. So with all the stuff you've done,
Speaker 1: you have now embarked on a brand new journey, one
Speaker 1: that we know from our other podcast. Because you're rewatching
Speaker 1: all the episodes of Full House for Full House Rewind
Speaker 1: and as somebody going through that and and something from
Speaker 1: thirty years ago? Do you also get the feeling that
Speaker 1: you're just watching somebody else?
Speaker 3: I do, because I never The big catalyst for me
Speaker 3: wanting to do Full House Rewind was that I've never
Speaker 3: watched the show my son did when he was little.
Speaker 3: He used to call it Daddy's Show. And I say,
Speaker 3: can I watch Daddy's show? This is like when he
Speaker 3: was four or five years old, you know, And I
Speaker 3: would I would use it as a ploy to make
Speaker 3: him eat his vegetables, said, can I watch daddy show?
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got to finish the broccoli or there's
Speaker 3: no daddy.
Speaker 2: That's what I ever worked.
Speaker 3: And I tricked him. I tricked him because the show
Speaker 3: would give me VHS's that I could take home. I
Speaker 3: never watched him, but I would pop one in for him,
Speaker 3: so he always thought I had to work the VHS
Speaker 3: machine for him to watch it. So I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if he ever watched one actually on network television Friday
Speaker 3: night at eight o'clock. But I just told Stamos this
Speaker 3: the other day. I said, John, I'm on episode thirty three.
Speaker 3: You and I were pretty funny together. I actually made
Speaker 3: myself laugh a couple of times, stupid stuff that we did.
Speaker 3: And he goes, you know, my son's five years old now,
Speaker 3: And I finally get it, and I said, we were funny.
Speaker 3: There's it holds up. Like I was, I was terrified
Speaker 3: to go back watch one hundred and ninety two episodes
Speaker 3: of Full House and be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I do that with you know, I had
Speaker 3: to buy into the bad mullets and.
Speaker 2: The keithing that you can't help though.
Speaker 4: That is just what's going to happen when you go
Speaker 4: back like that, right, right.
Speaker 3: But the comedy held up because it was physical. It
Speaker 3: was silly at times. A lot of it was very silly,
Speaker 3: but it was it was very you know, warm, the
Speaker 3: feeling I guess I'm trying to explain is it was
Speaker 3: a warm feeling instead of a cringe moment for me
Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, I don't know what this
Speaker 3: is going to feel like, and I've just kind of
Speaker 3: fallen in love with the show. It's it's a really
Speaker 3: nice feeling. I have to tell you. I didn't expect that.
Speaker 3: I thought, am I going to be watching this? And
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna have to say nice things. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like video comfort food. I get it. And I
Speaker 3: understand why kids come up and say, you know, I
Speaker 3: had a tough childhood and you guys were my family.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and wow, that resonates now. It lands now, yeah,
Speaker 6: whereas before it didn't really land on me so heavily
Speaker 6: or in such a sweet spot I should say, And
Speaker 6: it's nice.
Speaker 3: It's just nice.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, well, it does. The show absolutely holds
Speaker 1: up and you know, the comedy is there, and it is.
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's the closest to actually owning your own
Speaker 1: time machine is being able to go put on years
Speaker 1: of your life, literally years of your life that then
Speaker 1: triggers memories and sensations that you haven't felt in a
Speaker 1: long time. It's very odd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's really cool when you get
Speaker 4: to go back and rewatch that stuff, because obviously you're
Speaker 4: rewatching the storylines, but you're also thinking, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: I remember that day of shooting and so and so
Speaker 4: was on set, or we did a barbecue after, or
Speaker 4: you know that that kind of stuff is fun. I'm
Speaker 4: sure for you guys to revisit all of that, because
Speaker 4: that's that's the part that making having those incredible experiences
Speaker 4: through work is so great when you go to work
Speaker 4: and it doesn't feel like work because you love the
Speaker 4: people you're working with and you're having so much fun
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: And what it's done is I not only have the
Speaker 3: memory of the show, but it's exactly what you just
Speaker 3: talked about. Is I remember we went get the Hawaii episodes.
Speaker 3: I remember me and Laurie Laughlin going to the hotel
Speaker 3: pool and we were doing these stupid characters after the shoot,
Speaker 3: you know, in the pool, and people must have thought
Speaker 3: we were nuts, but we would let it was funny
Speaker 3: only to us, and we were but we were doing that,
Speaker 3: you know. So it brings back those moments where it
Speaker 3: it didn't have and on the set it didn't happen
Speaker 3: in the episode, but it was a byproduct of something
Speaker 3: we were doing.
Speaker 2: Really, I love that. That's so fun.
Speaker 1: And you've had on so far. You've had John Stamosler, Lachlan,
Speaker 1: Marla Sokoloff, the show's creator, Jeff Franklin. Is there somebody
Speaker 1: that you're dying to have on to interview that you
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to yet?
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean everyone wants a little piece of day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor Swift, Well.
Speaker 2: Her boyfriend, that one guy, he'd be cool too.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have her.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find out if she grew up watching
Speaker 3: Full House.
Speaker 1: Of course she did, and of course she did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that. You know. We're we've had people
Speaker 3: like you just mentioned. We have had Jody and Andrea,
Speaker 3: and and Candace and John and Scott Weinger and Jeff
Speaker 3: and John you know, and those are all people that
Speaker 3: were in the heart of Full House. But I'm what
Speaker 3: I'm saying to my partners now, is here are the
Speaker 3: people we need to get on Full House? Rewind It's
Speaker 3: people that you would never have thought, like, is John Legend,
Speaker 3: you know? Was Chrissy Teagan? Were they Full House fans.
Speaker 3: I want to get them on.
Speaker 2: That's such a good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to.
Speaker 3: People about what was your full House experience, Like what
Speaker 3: was Friday Night like at your house? And was t
Speaker 3: G I F a part of your life? You know,
Speaker 3: like those people are I know those people are out there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, or a specific episode that one of the
Speaker 4: characters went through that really resonated with you, you know.
Speaker 2: That that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, we know Taylor Swift was a Boy Meets World fan,
Speaker 1: so I will guarantee that Taylor Swift was a full.
Speaker 3: House Okay, Taylor, if you're listening, if you're watching, Oh,
Speaker 3: she definitely tunes into this one.
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it.
Speaker 3: You on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that mister Woodchuck behind you right there?
Speaker 2: It is inde at it the whole time.
Speaker 3: You want to hear the story, Yeah, there's a story
Speaker 3: behind this is the original mister Woodchuck that I had
Speaker 3: on Full House. So when we wrapped in nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 3: they gave me mister Woodchuck. I designed mister Woodchuck with
Speaker 3: a puppet maker named Randy Simper who had a creature
Speaker 3: shop way out in Palmdale, California, and I had to
Speaker 3: go to his creature shop when the producer said, we
Speaker 3: want you to do this puppet show thing, and we're
Speaker 3: going to send you to see Randy Simper and okay,
Speaker 3: and so I sat down and started sketching with Randy.
Speaker 3: You know what mister Woodchuck was going to look like.
Speaker 3: That's a very expensive puppet. It was like twenty five
Speaker 3: thousand bucks or something because it was designed by Randy
Speaker 3: Simper in his creature shop. He designed elf a lot
Speaker 3: of creatures for Henson, like major, major stuff.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: So the stuff on him here, that the fur looking stuff.
Speaker 3: That's called muppet fleece. And you had to license that
Speaker 3: from Jim Henson's company. So it's called muppet fleece. And
Speaker 3: the reason that they put that on is it absorbs
Speaker 3: the light on a set. It doesn't reflect light, it
Speaker 3: absorbs it. And so Jim Henson is in his genius,
Speaker 3: figured that out that it's made his characters look very
Speaker 3: very warm. So that's muppet fleece. Now, if you notice
Speaker 3: he's missing his face, his face is ripped off. Do
Speaker 3: you want to see it?
Speaker 1: Oh God, please, yes, I know I have to no tail,
Speaker 1: you were lying, no tail.
Speaker 3: So here's the story there he is, there's no face.
Speaker 1: Oh god, awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's terrible. So what happened was I had a
Speaker 3: yellow lab Ranger Dog, greatest dog in the world. When
Speaker 3: I brought mister Woodchuck home, I put him on just
Speaker 3: like he was back there. I put him on a
Speaker 3: desk at the end of the hallway, and every day
Speaker 3: Ranger would go and just look down the hallway and
Speaker 3: growl at mister Woodchuck, and I would just go, it's okay,
Speaker 3: it's all right. He's not alive or anything. As soon
Speaker 3: as I would go over to him, he would freak out,
Speaker 3: like that thing's gonna come alive.
Speaker 1: And kill me.
Speaker 2: Gonna get you dead.
Speaker 3: I mean to eat it someday. So one day I
Speaker 3: walked in and I see mister Woodchuck laying on the
Speaker 3: on the living room floor, face down, and I see
Speaker 3: foam everywhere. Oh no, oh, no, him over And that
Speaker 3: was what I saw. And I see Ranger and he's
Speaker 3: laying across the living room and he's got pieces of
Speaker 3: foam all around his face on the floor and he's
Speaker 3: just looking at me. He like I got him.
Speaker 2: Dad took care of it.
Speaker 4: I found the perfect opportunity You're welcome, Pop, He's good.
Speaker 3: So that's what happened. And then when we brought back
Speaker 3: Fuller House, uh Me, John Stamos and Bob Saget did
Speaker 3: a sketch with with Jimmy Fallon. So we went to
Speaker 3: New York and Jimmy said to have Dave bring the
Speaker 3: mister Woodchuck puppet. And I said, I told the story
Speaker 3: and he laughed and he said, well, can we make
Speaker 3: you a new one? And I said absolutely, So we
Speaker 3: did the sketch with the puppet that Jimmy's guys made
Speaker 3: for us. And then when we were leaving, I thought,
Speaker 3: oh man, it'd be nice to have that puppet. And
Speaker 3: I was leaving and Jimmy said, it was like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember the Pepsi or
Speaker 3: coke Mi Jo. He throws him his jersey, kid, here
Speaker 3: you go, kid, And I was like, oh man, the Woodchuck.
Speaker 3: So so the other Woodchuck that we used on Full
Speaker 3: House rewind is the one that we used on Fuller House. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that that's that's the quick.
Speaker 1: Poor guy, Hey right it is. But you know Ranger
Speaker 1: took care of it. He did. Yeah, Ranger took care
Speaker 1: of business.
Speaker 3: He did, and you know what, Thank goodness, I have
Speaker 3: a sense of humor because that was one expensive puppetize.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Okay, thank you for joining us
Speaker 1: so much, but for the we I have one last
Speaker 1: question because I'm you and I also have a passion
Speaker 1: and love in our lives, which is voiceover. And it's
Speaker 1: something that I've won for twenty five years and been
Speaker 1: a huge part of my life. And you've done so
Speaker 1: many iconic voices. Wow, I'm just curious, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: one to do?
Speaker 3: Uh? There's two little Emmy awards up behind me back there, yep.
Speaker 3: And those were when I he won the Best Animated
Speaker 3: Series Emmy Award on Muppet Babies four years in a row.
Speaker 3: And I got to work with Jim Henson, which was
Speaker 3: which was unbelievable, and the writing was so smart and
Speaker 3: so clever, and these iconic characters so animal. I did
Speaker 3: Animal Bunch of Honeydew, the two old men in the balcony,
Speaker 3: Waldorf and Statler and Bean Bunny, and I think probably
Speaker 3: Waldorf and Statler were my favorite guys to do, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And and Jim Henson would give notes and he sounded
Speaker 3: like Kermit the Frog. His natural speaking voice was gave
Speaker 3: one animal falls here, Why don't you just can't do
Speaker 3: some effering sounds and then you know, you'll fall backwards?
Speaker 3: And then Fozzy and I would sit there and here's
Speaker 3: a guy with long hair and a beard, and I
Speaker 3: just I'm like, wow, Kermit the Frog is a hippie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So that show.
Speaker 3: I think one of the hardest times I ever laughed
Speaker 3: was recording that show and Greg Berg, me and Frank
Speaker 3: Welker sat next to each other, and they eventually had
Speaker 3: to separate me and Frank because we would make each
Speaker 3: other laugh too hard Ever Recession, and that was before
Speaker 3: there were time limits on recording sessions. So we would
Speaker 3: have these marathon sessions where we'd have to walk out
Speaker 3: of the room and regroup because we were laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: Good story, so quick story. So Frank was Kermit, and
Speaker 3: then Barbara Billingsley, who was missus Cleaver on Leave It
Speaker 3: to Beaver. She was in She would wear pearls and
Speaker 3: all decked out, and so she was so lovely and
Speaker 3: wonderful and kind. And then we had Rusy Taylor who
Speaker 3: did Gonzo, and then we had Greg Berg who did Fozzy,
Speaker 3: and Katie Lee was Ralph, and then you know, I
Speaker 3: did my characters, and so there's a scene where Animal
Speaker 3: is pushing Fozzy up a ladder and we're doing these
Speaker 3: these efforting sounds. So I'm going in Fozzy, well, Greg
Speaker 3: Burn doing these efforting sounds farts, and we all hear
Speaker 3: it is like the room did one of those looks right,
Speaker 3: And I looked at Frank Welker. We realize what has
Speaker 3: just happened that Greg has parted right. We we all
Speaker 3: fall down and Barbara Billingsley either she didn't hear it
Speaker 3: or she didn't get it, but she was so stoic,
Speaker 3: like what just happened. We're dying. I'm on the floor crying.
Speaker 3: Hank Saroyan, our director, is crying, and and I can't
Speaker 3: compose myself because it's one of the funniest things without it,
Speaker 3: without missing a beat, all of a sudden, it's quiet
Speaker 3: for just a second as we're breathing from laughter, Greg
Speaker 3: in character as Fozzy just goes, excuse me, So now
Speaker 3: it happens all over again. Now we're crawling back out laughing.
Speaker 3: And it was one of the hardest times I have
Speaker 3: ever laughed in my life, and I'm very happy to
Speaker 3: say it was because of a fart.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love. That's amazing though. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: like being in one of those voiceover sessions and you're
Speaker 1: just around funny people doing things like that. Oh, that's great, And.
Speaker 3: You've had such a great voice career.
Speaker 1: Man, it's very lucky.
Speaker 3: It's really fun, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the greatest job in the world. It
Speaker 1: really is the greatest job world. Yeah. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. At least we talked for
Speaker 1: most of it about the thirteenth Year. There was too
Speaker 1: much to talk to you about. But we wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about thirteenth Year a bit because we just watched it.
Speaker 1: But when is a full house rewind coming back so
Speaker 1: people can start tuning In the.
Speaker 3: End, we are back. We are back shut down from
Speaker 3: the strike and we lost a lot of people. But
Speaker 3: it's building up quickly again and we have some great
Speaker 3: guests coming up. And it's on our YouTube channel and
Speaker 3: it's wherever you get your podcasts and all that blah
Speaker 3: blah blah stuff. But I'm having a blast and can't
Speaker 3: wait to keep going.
Speaker 1: Well, it is a great show and it brings all
Speaker 1: of the Full House fans right back to everything, but
Speaker 1: with just a heightened experience, so you get to hear
Speaker 1: all the inside stories and all the fun stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Dave. It was awesome meeting you, so
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: So much, and hopefully we will see you at another
Speaker 1: convention of course.
Speaker 3: Well the best to you guys.
Speaker 1: You as well. Thanks Dave, bye bye. Yeah. The other
Speaker 1: person that I could just sit down and just listen
Speaker 1: to him tell stories.
Speaker 4: All yes, And I mean I just imagine how obviously
Speaker 4: this movie was fun to do.
Speaker 2: He just had so much going on at.
Speaker 4: The time, right, I mean, oh yeah, and to be
Speaker 4: who he is and just get handed a script and said,
Speaker 4: we're so glad you're gonna do this.
Speaker 1: You're going to do this? What that's just the stand
Speaker 1: up stuff alone. I think about that. I think about
Speaker 1: that he saw and the lineups that he saw and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And then full Full House comes along
Speaker 1: and then you're doing that, and then the thing where
Speaker 1: I love and then the thing we're talking to about
Speaker 1: his thirteenth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, good movie.
Speaker 1: It's a good good movie, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 4: When you when you when you get a chance to
Speaker 4: talk to somebody who has just had just a career
Speaker 4: that just grew up for years and years and years,
Speaker 4: and they all have that same idea of you know,
Speaker 4: when he was first getting ready, which is a lot
Speaker 4: of times what we get to chance to talk on
Speaker 4: this podcast with the young at the time and when
Speaker 4: it blows up and how they're all like I was
Speaker 4: on this bike that I was just going as fast
Speaker 4: as I can and and not stopping to think. And
Speaker 4: you know, I know I remember so many moments of
Speaker 4: feeling that way too. And yeah, but it's hard because
Speaker 4: the industry makes you think if you stop, you're done,
Speaker 4: you might not start again. You know, you you're done,
Speaker 4: so you just keep going.
Speaker 1: With both hands while you can exactly. No, it's true.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he is just so talented. And again,
Speaker 1: I we didn't get into a whole lot of the
Speaker 1: voiceover stuff, but voiceover is such a passion of mine.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's phenomens, one of the great. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: thank you everybody for once again joining us on this
Speaker 1: episode of Magical Rewind. When we got to speak to
Speaker 1: the amazing they were doubtable. I'm gonna say, Dave.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave, because that was amazing.
Speaker 4: Gosh, I could just sit and listen to him talk
Speaker 4: about all his stand up comedy for.
Speaker 1: Shore absolutely and go check out a full House rewind.
Speaker 1: It is a great podcast, a lot of fun. He
Speaker 1: is a great host, and you get more stories like that,
Speaker 1: but all you know mostly full house based, which is
Speaker 1: for full house fans out there. What you want to
Speaker 1: add that extra little more soul to your full house memories.
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for joining us, and join us
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,