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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Elizabeth? You taught me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to interrupt your little show.

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Speaker 2: I was having a moment. Well, while you're here, please

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Speaker 2: sit down. I got a story for you. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: did a special thing while you were gone.

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Speaker 4: Oh you did?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 4: Wait without me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I got a question for you though. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: You're doing things without me?

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Speaker 2: I know, right, No, the actual what's also ridiculous is

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Speaker 2: the son of a ridiculous criminal. Oh and being specifically

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Speaker 2: the son of a ridiculous criminals. What's that like?

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Speaker 4: That's super ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I got answers you do. This is Ridiculous Crime, A

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Speaker 2: podcast about absurd and outrage is capers, heiss and cons.

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Speaker 2: It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hund

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Speaker 2: percent ridiculous. Oh oh, Elizabeth, I don't have a story

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Speaker 2: for you today. You don't wait, I know, but said

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Speaker 2: I have a person for you, okay, Pietro lo Greca.

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Speaker 4: Pietro lo Greca. What a great name.

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Speaker 2: That means Peter the Greek. Ok yeah, but he's not Greek. No,

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Speaker 2: it's a long story but here's the big news. He

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Speaker 2: was a real life, ridiculous criminal. And I interviewed his son.

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Speaker 2: Wait stop, Pietro Lo Greca Junior about his outrageously criminal dad.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, see you talked.

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Speaker 2: Oh I talked to l P. Tro Junior Junior.

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Speaker 4: Here he is now, PJ.

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Speaker 2: Introduce yourself, PJ.

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Speaker 3: My name is Patro Logreca. I am born and racer

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Speaker 3: in San Diego, California. I grew up with my foot

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Speaker 3: on two sides of the border. And like I said,

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Speaker 3: born and racer in San Diego and also Tijuana and

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff as well. And ultimately I wrote

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Speaker 3: a book about my family, and the main character of

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Speaker 3: it is my dad, who arguably was a most notorious

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Speaker 3: money launder in Mexico's history. Not only did he launder

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Speaker 3: but he also laundered money for two presidents of Mexico

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, this dude, wow the way wild right Wow. Now,

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Speaker 2: his son, Pietro Legreca Junior, the one who we just

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Speaker 2: heard from, he writes his book about his father. The

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Speaker 2: book is called Pesos, The Rise and Fall of a

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Speaker 2: outrageously criminal family. It's called The King of the Peso.

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Speaker 2: The podcast is from Audible and it stars Peter Stormar,

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Speaker 2: the weirdo German guy. The actor. He's the nihilist singer

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Speaker 2: in The Big Lebowski.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, right, great actor.

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Speaker 3: He's it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we got the real deal, Pietro daughter. Right, we

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Speaker 2: got the real deal Pietro Legreca junior. And well, he

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Speaker 2: wanted to tell us all about his mad, ridiculous criminal childhood.

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Speaker 2: Now I mean, now he's a full grown man, right,

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Speaker 2: he's a father of his own. But he used to

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Speaker 2: I have to imagine was somewhat cathartic.

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Speaker 4: Oh sure.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Pietro Logreca told me.

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Speaker 3: Being in sales, I had to entertain clients all the time.

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Speaker 3: Decided to take my big enterprise clients for life through

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Speaker 3: danchel America Prize. We go out to dinners and sometimes

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Speaker 3: would make for great conversation. A lot of questions asked,

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Speaker 3: And to this date, my biggest fans of my book

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Speaker 3: would say to me when we'd have dinner. I'd be like, hey, Pee, seriously,

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Speaker 3: you got to write the book. And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's incredible. Yeah, first of all, you go, you walk

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Speaker 4: into one of these meetings, you have no idea. I

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Speaker 4: mean it's meetings like dinner, dinner, one of these incentive

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Speaker 2: Two presidents of Mexico and numerous car tells. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, and it's not like I think that unique perspective

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Speaker 2: He studied him for everything. You chip off the old block.

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Speaker 4: And you see the impact on the family. This is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth eventually does sit down with a ghostwriter and he

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Speaker 2: does indeed write this book, which is fascinating. And he's

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Speaker 2: without doing time himself.

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Speaker 2: Now after the book he went out, I told you

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Speaker 2: with streaming being what it is, I'm sure Pietro Lagreca

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Speaker 2: new hit mini series on a streamer. Oh look at you, Netflix,

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime, all of you people, Hulu. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 2: say it would be a dope story. Does he played

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Speaker 2: out with Pedro Pascal playing his dad?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll watch him in anything.

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Speaker 2: I know you're watch him as shoe commercials.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, back to the Catharsis of sharing stories about a

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Speaker 2: When I brought up the idea of finding Catharsis and

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Speaker 2: Pietr Lgreca junior. He told me, I've had to do

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of my main goals was not to

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Speaker 3: lot of that to my education, being born and raised

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Speaker 3: And I look, I silver spuin in my mouth. I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna lie about that. Like I got given everything

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Speaker 3: of to your point, I've been trying to disassociate myself

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Speaker 3: And the hardest part is I'm a junior. So every

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Speaker 3: Is he like his dad, and no, I would unequivocally

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Speaker 4: Interesting, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, quick question, what do you know about San Diego

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Speaker 2: in the late seventies and early eighties? Wait, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got right to the TV show Simon and Simon.

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Speaker 4: Simon Simon is a great shoot that was.

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Speaker 2: A Magni p I spin off. You're kidding me, you know,

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Speaker 4: Of San Diego. San Diego is an interesting place. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you and I have talked about like there's a there's

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Speaker 4: for different reasons, like Savannah, Georgia and like they're very sinister, Venice, Italy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, class has a sinister.

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Speaker 4: Quality to it. But for something about San Diego because

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Speaker 4: it has all those things, but there's just a little.

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Speaker 2: The military border town. Yeah, you know, like that's the

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Speaker 4: There's incredible wealth, you know pines.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. Now, Also, do you know about the

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Speaker 4: I had a bunch of friends in college from San Diego,

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Speaker 4: like surfer due. Yeah, totally, you know, and they were

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Speaker 4: But Charger boys, well, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel bad for my San Diego friends. I have surfer

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Speaker 4: And it's like Burritos was frizen.

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Speaker 2: Totally. Now, for Pietro La Greca, growing up in San Diego,

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Speaker 2: Now, Elizabeth, I can only imagine how that moment was

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Speaker 2: do you know who Dan Fouts is?

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Speaker 2: He was a quarterback for the Chargers. He was like

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Speaker 2: basically invents the deep ball, the passing game that has

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Speaker 2: now taken over football. Dan Fouts is like the first

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Speaker 2: big exemplar of that. Right, So imagine you're a boy,

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Speaker 2: And he had to use had this lustrous beard. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Pietro Legreca Junior, it's a peak moment. Except Elizabeth I

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Speaker 2: of them were at a golf club for a celebrity thing.

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Speaker 2: Sure yeah, so, as he put.

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Speaker 3: Yeas, he told me, I'm having dinner with Marty, can

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Speaker 3: That's the point. That's the point I knew my dad

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Speaker 4: We're going to Barstow. You know, it's interesting with parents,

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Speaker 4: Well, and he's he's identifying with his grandfather in this,

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Speaker 2: we've done lots of stories where in folks, even families,

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, you're living life on the lamb. It helps if

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Speaker 2: what do you know about Polo?

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Speaker 2: Yes, the horse and sticks, some rich people stuff, yes, right,

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Speaker 4: Oh no, And it's very European, yes, And I think

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Speaker 2: You pretty much have nailed it, like Jr. He knows

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Speaker 4: Like shirts like there's the polo shirt.

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Speaker 2: That's what I know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm serious about this that he was a polo dude.

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Speaker 3: The way the whole polo thing happened is we started

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Speaker 2: So you kind of tell stories in circle sometimes, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but still, I mean, just as a brief aside

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Speaker 2: if people know California. That's huge, that's huge, that is

435
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: absolutely insane enormous.

436
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: But then to be able to talk about not your

437
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: primary residence having multiple polo fields like that's well plural field.

438
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, let's go back to a Pietro and I'll

439
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: explain how the polo thing goes.

440
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 3: So after I graduated high school, while the family and

441
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: specific medical and dad are working on the development project,

442
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: my uncle got heavy into polo all right, and at

443
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: a very high level where my uncle would have to

444
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: hire three professionals to play with him. The good news

445
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: for my uncles, I stopped playing baseball. I'm an athlete,

446
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: I knew how to write horses. I became as one

447
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 3: of his three professionals that was a really good polo player,

448
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: and we got a chance to seriously like travel the world.

449
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: I met the King of Malaysia as well. We played

450
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: in the Malaysian National Polo Tournament. He flew us on

451
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: a C one thirty cargo plane from Pahan to Kohl

452
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: and poor.

453
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: That's all exotic. Well, King of Malaysia, right, But I

454
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: don't play polo, so I don't know about like, is

455
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: it expensive to fly that many horses?

456
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 4: I imagine there's not a cut rate budget option. Here's

457
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: the thing. How great is the job of professional polo

458
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 4: player who's hired to just play with a criminal family.

459
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So the real crazy story for me is

460
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: how Pietro Lagreca Junior ends up playing polo against the

461
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: Prince of England who is now the King of England,

462
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: King Charles. That's how wild this guy's life was as

463
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: a teenager. So back to Petr Lagrecor Junior, let him

464
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: tell it.

465
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: And the story about the prince is the Prince. The

466
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Prince playing polo with the Prince is a fun story

467
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: because the way it comes off is like, oh, it

468
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: was arranged, he invited us. No, no, no, no, it was

469
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 3: it was It was an accident, all right, in a

470
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: certain way family was traveling to London, my uncle Peter

471
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: arranged what's called the stick and ball, which is a

472
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: practice polo session where you have one or two horses

473
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: and you going just kind of you know, mess around,

474
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: right and playing and practice with the horse.

475
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: So that way you can imagine this.

476
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: Wait, is this after they're on the run.

477
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, well yes this is this is after this.

478
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: This is like you he was on the run when

479
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: he was in elementary school teenage years. I'll connect how

480
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: that goes a little bit later. I'm just letting him

481
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: tell the story.

482
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: They're swadding around.

483
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: I thought you'd really appreciate. Yeah, so you know this guy,

484
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: the son of a money launderer for Mexican cartels. He's

485
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: out on a pitch of grass playing pole with the

486
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Prince of England future King of Great Britain. In true

487
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: to form, they played polo. I get this. Elizabeth Windsor Castle,

488
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh whoa yeah, talk about home turf right. So back

489
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: to Pietro Lagreca.

490
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: And we had set that up at Windsor Castle, and

491
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: I think it was a Tuesday or Thursday. And we

492
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: get there and gentlemen that had the stick and ball

493
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: sessions set up for us said, hey, you guys want

494
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: to play a practice match, practice match windsor absolutely, of

495
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: course we don't have the.

496
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: Horses, Elizabeth, they don't have the horses.

497
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: I've been a guess. They've got some spars.

498
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: Yes, do not worry. They have a quick and easy solution.

499
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 4: Are they duds? Is it like when someone wants to

500
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: but like I used to play tennis and I'd have

501
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 4: like a bunch of rackets and if someone wanted to play,

502
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: I'd give them kind of crap o wo No, not

503
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 4: not really, I'm not going to give them my favorite,

504
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: the one that I always play with. And so do

505
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: they have like a horse who's out back smoking a

506
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: cigarette and just like not not hasn't been out there.

507
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: For an old nag with ribs showing and a bad

508
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: smoking habit.

509
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: And let's also put a pin in the fact that

510
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: the English royal family is like playing around.

511
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: With Mexican cartail moneylnder lauders who let Pietro la Grecotel

512
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: because he was there and he's like, you know, this

513
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: issue of do you guys have horses? That was their

514
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: big concern, not like hey where are you guys from?

515
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Why are you so rich? And you know, yeah, no vetting,

516
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: no none whatsoever. So here's how it goes.

517
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: If you guys give us the horses, of course we'll

518
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: practice like we'll take care of the horses. We just

519
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: needed two bodies to play, and we set up for

520
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: the throw in and I looked to the right, look

521
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: to the right again. Then I say, hey, I look

522
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: at my uncle, Hey, hunk, check this out. And it

523
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: was the Prince and it was playing next to us,

524
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: and so I got to play against him the whole match,

525
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: and it was just a practice match, and it was

526
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: at the end of it all. The good news was

527
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: he invited us to a tournament that weekend, and the

528
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: bad news is my uncle grandfather and I ended up

529
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 3: going to a pub getting completely hammered, not showing back

530
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: up to go with the family to dinner.

531
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that's how it goes.

532
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: That's a good option.

533
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played polo at the Prince of England and

534
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: then they get so drunk they can't go to a family.

535
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: Dinner and they ghost them.

536
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what you do when you launder cartel money.

537
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: You just know you make weird choices.

538
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: But I gotta say, if you are going to live

539
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: on ill gotten gains. This beats like in like a

540
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: mansion in Miami doing coke off of like you know,

541
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: underage girl.

542
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: They're doing real like money over the future.

543
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: King if you're and if you're not going to donate

544
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: it back out, you know whatever, Like this is wholesome, I.

545
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Suppose anyway, what is they missed out on the family

546
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: dinner back to Petri Lagreca.

547
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: They were all mad at us. I mean we were

548
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: in the doghouse when we got back home. My grandfather

549
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: just sat back and just listened to his wife, his daughter.

550
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: Everyone chew us out and say, well, I guess then

551
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: you guys don't want to go to the polo match

552
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: with Prince Charles on Sunday. And they all shut up,

553
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: went and looked for the dresses that they were gonna wear,

554
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: and we all prepped for the Sunday polo match that

555
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: we got to go see Prince Charles at. So it

556
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: was one of those experiences I'll never never forget in

557
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: my life.

558
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: You see, this is what I'm talking about, Elizabeth. Yeah,

559
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: this is the world that makes sense to me. You

560
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: ask me, who's standing next to the Prince of England

561
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: in a photo at an event that involves horses. I'm

562
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: gonna say, do you know how much dirty money there

563
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: is in this photo?

564
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: Seriously?

565
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's no fun to think about. I mean

566
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: that it's too easy. So you know what's more fun

567
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: to think about.

568
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: The fact that there are no ethical billionaires.

569
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: There' that is too is Prince Charles nay King Charles?

570
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Is he any good at polo?

571
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: Oh? Probably? I mean what has he been playing since

572
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: you know he was knee high to a grasshopper?

573
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Probably? I don't know. I had to ask Pietro Legreca,

574
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: and he told me.

575
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, legit, No, he was legit, legit he could play.

576
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: Oh look at that bullied at him like that's first person.

577
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing next to him.

578
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: Love this guy.

579
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: Anyway, back to polo and Prince Darles. Petri lagrec had

580
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: told me a little bit.

581
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: More so you get ranked in polo from a negative

582
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: two to a ten, and being a ten, I think

583
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: there's maybe two handfuls of tens in the entire planet.

584
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: Most of them are from Argentina. One of them was

585
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: on our team. He was a four and I was

586
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: a three and for normal Look, and I'm gonna be

587
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: straight with you. The rich dudes that play are usually

588
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: ones and twos, right, Like, they hire a lot of heavy,

589
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: heavy players that can handle themselves, but they themselves are

590
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: not too good. My uncle was good, I was good,

591
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: and the Prince was good. So the Prince was better

592
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: than my uncle at my level. And so he was.

593
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: He was a really good player, knew how to ride

594
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: a horse really well.

595
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, he's good, yeah, really really good or just like

596
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: went to a prep school.

597
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Good.

598
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: Oh well, if he's saying he's a two or three, right,

599
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: what was it?

600
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

601
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: And so is like what a four or five?

602
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know? Was what he told me.

603
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: He's got the tie and he had the talent like

604
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: a lot of the Like with most sports, because I

605
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: did get to play baseball, football, basketball, it's about being

606
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: at the right place at the right time and knowing

607
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: how to get there. He knew how to get to

608
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: the right place the right play. Like newer polo players

609
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: they have no idea where to be on the field.

610
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: He knew where to be where the ball was going

611
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: to be positioned. He was a good four. He was

612
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: a forward. I was the defenseman. So we battled the whole.

613
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Day, Elizabeth, Yes, Prince Charles you figure, I mean you did.

614
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: He was good at polo. I mean I was doubting him.

615
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: But what else does this dude really have to do

616
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: all day? You know, he's just out there.

617
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: Practicing polo organic jam.

618
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, practice his wave. I mean, like, what does he

619
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: have to do?

620
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: It's very hard and anyway, you know, beyond welfare, it's hard, Saron.

621
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint about who was also good

622
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: on the polo pitch. That's stuck with old Pietro la Greca,

623
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: who is not a king. But you know this person,

624
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint. He has really big teeth.

625
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: I'll give you another hint. He was a motivational speaker

626
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: during most of your youth.

627
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: Really big teeth.

628
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Here's another hint. He's huge.

629
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I can see right there, Elizabeth crap.

630
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: Here's a final hint. His first name is Tony.

631
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: He was in some movie years ago where he was

632
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: in an elevator talking.

633
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget which one. He like a motivational speaker.

634
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: I forget one, liar, liar, hitch one of those.

635
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yeah, So back.

636
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 2: To Pietro legrect to tell us about what was like

637
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: playing polo with Tony Robbins, Oh my.

638
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: God, the funnier story was with with Robin's right, that

639
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: was hilarious. All right, I'll tell you this story. Was

640
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: a practice match here Rancho Santa Fe Fairbanks Ranch Paula

641
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: Club here in San Diego, and he lived here and

642
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: he got into Poland Elizabeth.

643
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: If you don't know it, as I said earlier, Tony Robbins,

644
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: huge dude. He's really really big, way.

645
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: North of like six two. It's like six ' five.

646
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, Patrick Gregor. He sizes them up and

647
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: he says, this guy's.

648
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Big, like he's a big dude. I'm a big dude.

649
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm six four, two hundred and sixty pounds, a little

650
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: lighter when I was younger, obviously gained a few but

651
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: big dude. Big pause, Like I thought I had some

652
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: big pause. He had some big pause on him. And

653
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: he comes he was all in his Tony Robbins kind

654
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: of feel. Came up to me at the practice matches

655
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: me and he's like, hey, Pete, you play high goal.

656
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm just learning, but I want to feel

657
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: what's like. I want to feel what it's like to

658
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: be at your level. And I said, no, you don't

659
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: and he's like no. He started getting all motivational with me,

660
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: and he convinced me. I mean, this dude convinced me

661
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: to go all out on him, right, And so I did.

662
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Like? What happens when Tony Robbins

663
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: inspires you to be your best self? And that means

664
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna kick Tony Robbin's ass. It's like a Zen

665
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: Cohen for a self help life coach. Can you make

666
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: a student so powerful he kicks your own ass?

667
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: And in the first it's it's weird to explain, but

668
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: in polo, the ball makes a line, and that line

669
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: is the rule of the game. You can't ever cross

670
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: the line one way or another with a horse because

671
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: it would create a lot of danger. And so sometimes

672
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: the only way to get a guy that has a

673
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: ball on this side knocked off the line is to

674
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: come in with your horse and knock him off, push

675
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: his horse aside. Basically, it's a body check for horses.

676
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: I came in and gave him a body check with

677
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: a horse that for a six sixth dude. He flew

678
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: off his horse and I look, I'm like, oh man,

679
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: we lined back up, and he's like, pee go easy

680
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: on me, man, go on me. I'm good. He wanted it.

681
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: I gave it to him. And then he's just that

682
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: he taught me into it. You're absolutely right with that.

683
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: So it was fun. It was fun.

684
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: So does that make sense? He basically yeah, he just

685
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: beat up Tony Robins sorts until Tony Robbins submitted. It

686
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: was like, I relent, I relent.

687
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was like, but you did exactly what

688
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: I wanted you.

689
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: Yes, He's like, thank you, you're achieving me.

690
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: You made you were your best self.

691
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: I was the mountain and you were the master. So

692
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of fun that he has with as

693
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: you pointed out, the ill gotten money, laundered fortunes. All right,

694
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: But as with all things, what goes up must come

695
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: down certainly, so for Pietro Lagreca Junior, that meant confronting

696
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: his father, Pietro loa Greca Senior, the og money launderer,

697
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: the low key gangster Elizabeth. When I asked Pietro la

698
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Greca Junior what his father was like, he painted this

699
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: portrait of a truly ridiculous criminal but also a very

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: complex man.

701
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

702
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: Oh man, he is a character, I mean a character

703
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: at all levels. Right, he it's like he drank, but

704
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: he didn't drink. He liked a could glass of wine,

705
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: but he never got drunk. He would fake. He would

706
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: fake drinking and throw it under the table. So it

707
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: was kind of interesting like that he'd go all in

708
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: on everything all the time, and it was exhausting.

709
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you and I both know what it's like

710
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: to have a father who's all in and on everything

711
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: all the time, right, but in different ways. But still

712
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: I imagine, like me that you can imagine somewhat what

713
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: it was like for Pietro Junior, Right, Like, look at

714
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: this guy, going, why is he like that?

715
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: Well, and that measure of control that if he's going

716
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: to pretend to be drinking it lets other people think

717
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: that he's releasing control, but he's.

718
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: Not faking it. Yes, So based on what he told me,

719
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't think we can fully relate to his father

720
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: or to his situation, no matter how colorful our fathers are.

721
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would go all in, all in, all in,

722
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: but he was also looking for the quick book and

723
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: if he ever got pushed in a corner, he got

724
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: out of it the illegal way. I start the book

725
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: with my dad always used to say, I never asked

726
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: a man how he made his first million dollars.

727
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now it's funny. He mentioned that because his

728
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: father had a really interesting story of how he made

729
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: his first millions. And I bet you can't guess how

730
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: he did it.

731
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: You want to take a guess, No, I'd like to

732
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: hear it from you or a Pietro.

733
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: My dad would tell the story all the time. And

734
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: what he did is he tried to bring a high

735
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: end women's clothing store to Tijuana in the late sixties.

736
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: See, I told you couldn't guess it high end, like

737
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: a boutique that sold multiple designers or like that, like

738
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: a boutique one designer.

739
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: You're picturing it a boutique like high end.

740
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: Woman's story.

741
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he ended up torching it for the insurance money.

742
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: And you'd think you'd think he was You know, most

743
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: people are really kind of They just go ahead and

744
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: do it without putting a plan together. Now, my dad

745
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: had the fire chief, police chief, the insurance adjuster, and

746
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: himself all working together. They all made money, and they

747
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: all did it three more times.

748
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Three more times.

749
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: Elizabeth, how'd you make your first mill You want to

750
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 4: twitch job?

751
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: So his father got the police chief, the insurance adjust

752
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: they all work on this. They do this thing three

753
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: more times, three times, as Denzel would say, Mom, man.

754
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: So you know that sets the standard with how my

755
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: dad just said, you know what, if you can't make

756
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: it with a legal business, then you got to do

757
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: something to make it even better and to make money

758
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: out of it somehow, right, And he did the same thing.

759
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: He was all it. And then the only reason to

760
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: stop is because people started asking questions in the social

761
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: circles of Tijuana, which my grandfather was at the highest

762
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: levels of. So he kind of like, you're now married

763
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: to my daughter. People are talking. It's now stop. Now

764
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: people are going to ask questions. You got to stop this.

765
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: So you know he stopped.

766
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: How many businesses do you think he burned, Elizabeth?

767
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: Well, we know three, yes, I don't know.

768
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Three was the limit. He almost I think he was

769
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: going to do the fourth one. I don't remember if

770
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: he did the fourth one or not, but he got closed.

771
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: But then you know, right after that, he ends up

772
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: getting government contracts with the Education Department of Mexico to

773
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: build greenhouses.

774
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Greenhouses, Elizabeth, I feel like Dave Chappelle is Black Bush.

775
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Greenhouses, Elizabeth, Well, it's an important thing to have, and yeah.

776
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: The greenhouses made cost sixty seventy K, but he was

777
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: getting half a million to build him and splitting the

778
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: remaining stuff with the government officer in charge of the department.

779
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: So he just started doing one after another.

780
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: And now at this point, this is when the Mexican

781
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: peso comes into the story. Does he emerge in the

782
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: title of the books podcast.

783
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: When Mexico's paeso collapses in nineteen eighty three, everyone in

784
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: Mexico is decimated. Right, You're talking about overnight losing anywhere

785
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: between twenty five and fifty percent of your fortune just

786
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: because of the evaluation. So people have all these pesos

787
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: in their hands and they're like, this currency sucks. Right now,

788
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: I need to exchange this currency into dollars, right But

789
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: in Mexico they nationalize the currency, which means that within

790
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: Mexico's borders, you couldn't exchange those pesos for dollars. You

791
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: had to do it in another country, like the United States,

792
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: on the other side of the border. And my dad

793
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: came up with the ideas like I'm going to start

794
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: foreign exchanges in Sandy Cedro right on the other side

795
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: of the border to help Mexicans exchange their pesos for dollars.

796
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: This is brilliant, Yeah, it really is. When there's a

797
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: gold rush, as you know, don't go scrambling off into

798
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: the hills now. Instead, a smart person sell shovels. But

799
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: in this case he sold literal dollar bills.

800
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: It's incredible and.

801
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: So yes, great business, lucrative until he needed to exchange

802
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: money at unbelievable levels. And that's when the politicians get involved,

803
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 3: the drug dealers get involved, the money laundering starts to happen.

804
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: So his business may have always started with good intentions,

805
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 3: but if it failed, bad intentions creeped in real quickly.

806
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: There's always that always quick crime lesson. Do you do

807
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: too well and you make too much money on the border,

808
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: you're going to attract the attention of organized.

809
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: Psh most definitely.

810
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: That's obviously what happens to his pops.

811
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: And not even just on the border, but just I

812
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: mean especially.

813
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: Especially on the border.

814
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: He didn't have any mentorship. I think it was heat

815
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: to say this because it's so stereotypical and gross to say.

816
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: I think it was the Italian Neapolitan in him.

817
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Right, Wait, well, what what does Pietro the Greek mean

818
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: by this? Well, Elizabeth, I'm not Italian, but I think

819
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: I know what he means. In your friend Sarah t

820
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: she would get it too. Oh yeah, she would, and

821
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: I think your moms would too. The Neapolitan influence in

822
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: this story.

823
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not Italian, but she is a huge fan

824
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: of the city of Naples.

825
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: Nay, yeah, So this now is where Naples comes into

826
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: the story.

827
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: You grow up in that Neapolitan life in the nineteen

828
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 3: thirties and forties, and you grow up with like things,

829
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: with checking out who's walking behind you. You're always cautious,

830
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: you're not trusting about anyone. I think it was how

831
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: he grew up as a Neapolitan because I and I

832
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: also truly believe he ended up in the United States,

833
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: and the US would have ended up being his savior

834
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form, right because he loved

835
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: the US. He absolutely loved the US. And you have

836
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: to understand why he loved the US. He was living

837
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: in the catacombs in Naples when the tanks started rolling in,

838
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: US tanks handing out hot dogs and spam into his

839
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: dying day. He loved his hot dogs. He loved his spam,

840
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: and he was so grateful of those American tanks finally

841
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: rolling through Naples and the war being over. So he

842
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: had such a passion and love for the US, and

843
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: I think it was the best thing for him to

844
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: come here too. Might have not been the best thing

845
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 3: for my family, but yeah.

846
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: So there you goles of it, all right, the spam,

847
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: the hot dogs, the tanks.

848
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: Naples of the thirties and forties.

849
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't only picture, I know. Okay, let's take

850
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: a little break, Elizabeth, and after this we'll dive back

851
00:41:37,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: into the two Pietro Lorecos. We're back.

852
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: Hi.

853
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: How are you liking the story so far?

854
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm loving so much fun.

855
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know we've talked about San Diego, the

856
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: San Diego Superchargers. We're talking about border crime back in

857
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: the day. And yeah, did you watch the show Narcos?

858
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: You did?

859
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 4: Yes? I did.

860
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: Did you watch the second one, Narcos Mexico?

861
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: I thought I didn't, and it turns out I did.

862
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 2: You did. Yeah, how does that work?

863
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 4: Someone asked me, did you watch that? And I was, oh, no, man,

864
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: I only watched the first one. And then I was

865
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I should watch this,

866
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: and I turned it on. I was like, oh my god,

867
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 4: I've already slow a little slow.

868
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: You can think back to Narcos Mexico. That's the tale

869
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: that we are telling in parallel. He his family is

870
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: all connected to the main characters of that show. Yeah,

871
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: so back to our story. But let's before I get

872
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: into Narcos Mexico and the Felix Garlardo, the Ariano family, Like,

873
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: we'll get into back to Naples because I know you

874
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: like it, like I do.

875
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: I do?

876
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: All right, So General Montgomery of the Britz General patent

877
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: from America. They get there, they liberate Italy. It's World

878
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: War two, wild time. The people are excited, they're having parades.

879
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Mussolini's lost, the Germans are retreating back all you know,

880
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: the new Holy Roman Empire has been collapsed. And so

881
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: on a more personal note, though, his father he's like, oh,

882
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here, you know, I

883
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: want to go with them wherever they're going. So he

884
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: gets to the US, but I don't want to just

885
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: skip past this. How he gets to the US is.

886
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: So incredible, Okay, but I will.

887
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: Warn you it's PG. Thirteen. So his father was, how

888
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: do I put it. Well, I'll let Pietro Junior tell

889
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: the story.

890
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: He left Naples because he couldn't handle being with his

891
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: family anymore. Look also silver spoon in his math. Okay,

892
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you my dad came from poverty,

893
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: all right. My dad's family had a pasta factory in Naples.

894
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: They did well for themselves. He had ten brothers and sisters,

895
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: of which five of them died in the African Italian

896
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: War in the nineteen tens and twenties, and he ended

897
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: up being the only male left surrounded by women to

898
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 3: run Aposta factory. He was done. He had the opportunity

899
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: to make it to the United States and he took it.

900
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, right, there's a lot to impact. Wondering if

901
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: he came from if his came from poverty or Middleomber.

902
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he came from wealth, Italian wealth at the time.

903
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: Dan, and then to lose all the family, oh, all.

904
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: The brothers in the doctor I love that, Elizabeth like me.

905
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: You love mister David lee Roth, Oh god it do.

906
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: He had a great song about being a jiggolow and

907
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: you're a grown ass woman, you know what a jiggolow is.

908
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: Petro Legreca got to the US by enjoying life as

909
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: a jiggolo, a rich American couple.

910
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: Everybody wins a couple just like I'm big in like

911
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: rich American socialist.

912
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: So here's so.

913
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 3: I always say that my dad came to the US

914
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: on the you know, on the proverbial boat. But there

915
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: was nothing proverbial about the boat. He came on right,

916
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: like my dad. My dad was a good looking dude.

917
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: I thought I was good looking at high school, I

918
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: was thinner, you know. I thought it was an attractive dude.

919
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: He was really good looking cat. And he went on

920
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: an excursion with his buddies to Rome, met an older lady.

921
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: The older lady proposition my dad to go back on

922
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: her yacht. He goes with her to her yacht. They

923
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: enjoy their time together right. And the next morning, as

924
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: he's leaving. You won't believe I tell the story, and

925
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: no one believes it, but it's absolutely one hundred percent true,

926
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: he gets confronted by the husband. And back in that

927
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: day and age, there wasn't a little blue pill right,

928
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: so her husband couldn't perform right. And they were very

929
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: wealthy Texas millionaires. They had a yacht in Italy, and

930
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: he approached my dad and said, look, my wife has

931
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: taken a liking to you. Would you be part of

932
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: our crew on the boat and she can enjoy your company,

933
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: And we have the boat docked in San Diego. Would

934
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: you be willing to come with us?

935
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: What do you think? His responsible was, Elizabeth, Oh, my god,

936
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: why not? You bet he had the ticket.

937
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: He took the ride, and he took the opportunity and

938
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: came to San Diego on the proverbial not so proverbial boat,

939
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: and and his stops along the way were unbelievable, like

940
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: he learned Spanish and why must right? He went through

941
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: the Bermuda Triangle. His stories were outstanding, and a lot

942
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: of them I didn't think were true until they were

943
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: confirmed by people in my life, And I said, Okay,

944
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: he wasn't full of He wasn't full of I'm sorry

945
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: he wasn't he He didn't bs me, but he learned

946
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: he was a jigglo.

947
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: One more time for those in the back.

948
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, all I'm saying is my dad was basically

949
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: a jigglow before he started burning clothing stores and then

950
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, laundering money. So it goes back to the

951
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: question you asked at the beginning, right, who was his mentor?

952
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: I think he was a product of Naples, and Naples

953
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: is who mentored my dad into who he became.

954
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: This makes me think of we've had criminals that we've

955
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: talked about before who when you learn a little bit

956
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: more about their backstory, things kind of make sense and

957
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 4: you can say, oh, Naples, you know that's the driving force.

958
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: But it's Naples at that time specifically you know that.

959
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: It's so it's like to lead up to the war,

960
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: he's lost all this family in another conflict. You can

961
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: see where you just start to think, who cares what rules?

962
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just going to do whatever. I gotta

963
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: get that or.

964
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: I got to look out for me and nobody else

965
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: is going to completely So after he told me about

966
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: his life with his dad and the money launder and

967
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: playing polo with the future King of England and the

968
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: big twoth American life coach Tony Robbins and the Naples

969
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: and like his dad being a jigglo. Obviously, I had

970
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: so many questions. You're only causing me to have more questions.

971
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: I asked a question, you answer, now I got more questions.

972
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: They were like, it's doubling and trebling.

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: It's the best kind of interview.

974
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: But you know me, mostly I wanted to know what

975
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: life was like on the lamb. Were hint of life

976
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: on the lamb? What was like? So I asked him.

977
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: It was definitely on both ends of the spectrum for me.

978
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: When and I told you the story about when I

979
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: was thirteen and I finally found out, Okay, there's some

980
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: corruption here, right, You have to understand over that summer

981
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: we were on the Lamb on the Eastern Sea board

982
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: of the United States, basically before my grandfather got released

983
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: with absolutely no charges against him. The president of Mexico,

984
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: who went after my dad ended up coming to our

985
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: house in Coronado and celebrating his birthday was right after

986
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: that it all went down. So, as a thirteen year

987
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: old heading into my high school days, think about it.

988
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: I just saw my grandfather go to jail, come out,

989
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: and now we're just as much or more powerful than

990
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: we used to be as a family. My ego is

991
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: kind of running pretty big, and I thought it was

992
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: pretty f and cool to have a dad with that

993
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: kind of power.

994
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Now all throughout this Pietri Junior, he remains

995
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: loyal to his mother for obvious reasons. His relationship with

996
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: his father was complicated.

997
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: There was an ego behind what he got away with

998
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: and that we were kind of untouchable, right, So there

999
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: was a bit of a pride with that, But then

1000
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: came they absolutely hatred for him, the way he treated

1001
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: my mom, the way he treated me. Right, So there

1002
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: was no kind of like middle kind of chill family ground, right,

1003
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: And that's what I've tried to establish with my family

1004
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: right now. We like putting on Dancing with the Stars

1005
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: and watching some TV and being chill. There was nothing

1006
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: like that with my dad, right. So no, there was

1007
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm the boss, which is if you see how I

1008
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: call him in my book, I call him Hefe. Hefe

1009
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: is boss in Spanish, right, And that's how I treated

1010
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: him like he was my boss. I said things that

1011
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to say because of my place, I

1012
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: couldn't have any honest, transparent conversations that I have with

1013
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: my daughter to this day. I mean, I don't think

1014
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: my dad apologized once to me. I went off the

1015
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: handle on my daughter for not studying for a test

1016
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: the other day, and I'm sorry it was bs on

1017
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: my part, and I went up to her and I said, hey, honey,

1018
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: that was I'm sorry. Dad was out of line, right.

1019
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: I never heard that from my dad. So I continued

1020
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: by the mantra that yeah, I was proud of certain

1021
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: things he did, but I'm not going to be the

1022
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: man he was.

1023
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: Isn't that I don't know.

1024
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: It's hopeful rejecting the example, and he's showing like a

1025
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: change with the times thentally, you know, it's less and

1026
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: less acceptable socially too.

1027
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: My dad may have been raised in the thirties to

1028
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: Italy and Naples, but I'm going to be a better

1029
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: dad and not going to let that. I'm not carry

1030
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: that forward. So here's this man, as I said, raised

1031
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: is the son of a money launderer for Mexican cartels.

1032
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: He sees corrupt Mexican presidents in his home celebrating his

1033
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: dad's birthday.

1034
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 4: Crazy, and then when.

1035
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: He becomes a father, he's worried about if his daughter

1036
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: respects him for being fair and present. I love it. Now.

1037
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: To me, that's being a good father, something as simple

1038
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: as that, dancing with the stars, transparent, open on his

1039
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: conversations with your daughter, your son. It's really not that difficult,

1040
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: or you know, you can try to launder money for

1041
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: Mexican cartels and be like, I'm affording my kids a

1042
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: life they could not, you know. So okay, Elizabeth, the

1043
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: good news is this story is not done. But let's

1044
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 2: take a break and we'll get into the second part

1045
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: in the next episode. Oh wow, if you don't mind,

1046
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: I'll have Pietro la Greca finish his story and we'll

1047
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: dive way deeper into this tale and it gets way wilder,

1048
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 2: way more ridiculous.

1049
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: I cannot wait. I am loving this.

1050
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: So much, but for now, it's got to ask you,

1051
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: what's a ridiculous takeaway so far?

1052
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: Oh my god. First of all, I love that you

1053
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: get to do the journalist thing and like do an

1054
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: actual interview. You're getting incredible material out of this guy.

1055
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: I am fascinated by him, and uh, there's just a

1056
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 4: lot to process. I can't wait my takeaway. I can't

1057
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 4: wait for the rest of this excellent.

1058
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: So I don't really have a ridiculous takeaway, as you know,

1059
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: deep and thoughtful as yours.

1060
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: I am so deep and thoughtful you are. I was

1061
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: just like, it's like kind of crazy.

1062
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: I just kind of wish that I had a name

1063
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: like Zarin la Greca, like Zarin the Greek.

1064
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: Hello, it's easy enough to I'm learning about.

1065
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: All these crazy names, Like there was this dude Mata Moros, right,

1066
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: and the last name means more killer, the killer of

1067
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: the Mors. The Spanish have these insane names, like they're like,

1068
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: what do you Oh, I'm senior Mato Moros. I'm like,

1069
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: Mata me means death to the more Oh and then

1070
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: I looked it up and he's like you literally translated

1071
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: as more killer, like Muslim killer essentially.

1072
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1073
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, oh, American name just so boring.

1074
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, Zaron Burnett, what does that mean? I think

1075
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: it means brown. I don't know anyway, that's my takeaway.

1076
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 4: That's a great takeaways. Thank you for asking.

1077
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you in the mood for talkback because I am

1078
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: always well. I got one for you. Oh oh my god,

1079
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: did you do?

1080
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 5: I love you, Saren Elizabeth. I think you guys are

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: my spirit podcasters. And today I rejoiced and threw my

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Speaker 5: arms up when Elizabeth mentioned that she was going to

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Speaker 5: enter the winter season of Dark Elizabeth. I think it

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Speaker 5: should be all seasons of Dark Elizabeth. I love it.

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Speaker 5: So much that I have used it with my coworkers

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Speaker 5: saying it's the season of dark Becca, and with my

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Speaker 5: children saying it's the season of dark mom.

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Speaker 4: Oh girl, Becca, you and me Man, we need to Okay,

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Speaker 4: we can Becca. We can have the season of dark

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Speaker 4: Elizabeth and dark Becca. I worry about us. I don't

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Speaker 4: want it to be a four seasons type of faith.

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Speaker 4: We deserve a sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you deserve a spring. The sunshine spring maybe coming.

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Speaker 4: The sunshine of Becca, the sunshine of Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: But it can be the kind of sunshine that burns

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Speaker 2: everything else. You know, the sun now I maybe damage.

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Speaker 4: And everyone gets to live in the in the winter

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Speaker 4: of dark Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I salute you in your army.

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Speaker 4: I have to vent somehow.

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Speaker 2: Always. You can find us online if you'd like some

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Speaker 2: more of this a Ridiculous crime on the social media's,

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Speaker 2: and we have our website, ridiculous Crime dot com, which

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Speaker 2: we'd loved you to check out because it's it's an

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Speaker 2: award winning beautiful experience and obviously we love your talkback.

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Speaker 2: So please go to the iHeart app, download it record one.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll hear yourself. Yeah, we'd like to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Emails also, if you like Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 2: We've been checking the emails and we got some surprises

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Speaker 2: coming for you up tops. Yes, but as always, thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening and we will catch you next Crame.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaron Burnette,

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Speaker 2: produced and edited by Dave America aka Dave Kustin, and

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Speaker 2: starring an Alice Rutger as Judith. Research is by Mexican

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Speaker 2: cartel historian Marissa Brown. Our theme song is by San

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Speaker 2: Diego's very own Thomas Lee and Oakland's very own Travis Duddy.

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Speaker 2: The host wardrobe provided by Body five hundred. Guest hair

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Speaker 2: and makeup by Sparkles Shot and mister Andre. Executive producers

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Speaker 2: are Ben you know, uh Freud was the big time

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Speaker 2: cooked Bowland and Noel I didn't know that. We talked

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Speaker 2: about it on our show, Why.

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Speaker 4: Say It one More Time? Ridiculous Crime.

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