1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome again into the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast. 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Well it really should be the let's call it the 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: well we nicknamed ourselves hashtag Petubsi, Petco stubbsy. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: I think that's still pretty good. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, welcome to the Petubsi podcast. I think we should 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: start calling it. But what a day yesterday, of course 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Women's semi Finals Day was played in the evening and 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Petco what do you think about the two back to 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: back matches in the evening before we get into the 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: actual matches. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: Well, I know what you think, and I'm sure we 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: will get into it into a five minute trand from 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: Renee Stubbs. But I agree with you. We talked about 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: it on the way back in the car. I agree 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: with you one hundred percent. I'm all for a night 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: session because the atmosphere was absolutely electric. It was fascinating 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: to see, especially the GoF Sabalnka but also the Jong 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: and Yes Gem Scum match. The atmosphere was great. It 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: was amazing to play underneath the lights. It was raining 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 3: in Melbourne, so the roof was closed. It really had 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: an indoor feel. However, start at six, yeah, start or 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 3: six thirty or six thirty because again we were home 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: at one thirty am, and that's us. That's us, So 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: we don't sleep before two and think about the players, 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, because they are riled up even more than 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: and we already have adrenaline flowing through our bloods. We 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: both called the second match as well, so you get 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: excited for these players. You see these great narratives and 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: stories play out, and you can't go to sleep. Imagine 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: what the players feel like who have played on the 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: big stage, who have felt the atmosphere. They won't be 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: able to sleep until three four am. We talk about 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: this all the time and it's really rough to come 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: back from that and play the biggest match of possibly 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: your life. So yeah, just start a bit earlier, just 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: a bit. It's one hour and. 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: At least at least you know, I understand there's a 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: lot of things. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: That go into it. 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: Clearly, we both work in television and you know, we 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: in production meetings, so we hear all the time. And 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure and I know from working here for Channel seven, 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the Channel seven network, when they covered it, they want 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: they want to start after the news, like the news 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: is very important for people to watch on TV, and 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: then they want to put the tennis on. So then 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: that's why they started seven. Well, then start at seven, 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: don't start at seven thirty eight. You know, there was 49 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: you know some there was some announcements made before the match, 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: which was fantastic. 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Ivon Colie. 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: They announced that the Indigenous Day at the Eustrain Open 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: is now going to be called the Ivon gool On 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Colie Day, which is all great. So there's all some 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: really wonderful things. And you know, we had the Women's 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Inspirational Series with el McPherson and Yvonne over there yesterday 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: and that was great and I really appreciate it. Tennis 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Australia do that, you know, have all these wonderful women 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: like come together and have this great day. But like 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I think, starting at seven essentially seven forty. 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: So therefore, by the time. 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: The first couple of games has done, it's already eight o'clock. 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, if Coco and Sablenka had gone three sets, 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean the second match when I got on the 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: court till like eleven o'clock or something, I just think 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: it's too late for the people to be sitting there 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: as well, like to go to go and sit and 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: watch a second match. 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean I saw people. 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Yawning at like twelve ten, which is when they finished 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: or something. 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: It's like I was yawning. I mean, it's just I 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: think it's just too late. 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I know the rest of 75 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: the world don't really care because the rest of the 76 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: world like, oh great, it's on. 77 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: Our times now. 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: That also plays into the global sport, and our stars 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: are global stars. They come from all over the world. 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: As we see now. 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Is China ahead, China is ahead of Australia, a little 82 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: bit behind, a. 83 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: Little bit behind, and the yeah, it would have been 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: picked our And I've heard, for example, from the day 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: before when Coco gov got scheduled at one one pm. 86 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Normally they started at twelve and then they played this 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: long match when Coco played costume. So I heard ESPN 88 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: actually requested the one pm start because there would have 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: been primetime in the US and they had Coco and 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Ta Fritz playing back to. 91 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Back, so they wanted that in the lot. 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: There is a lot to go that goes into But 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: we're of course we've both were former players. 94 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: We're arguing from. 95 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: The perspective of the players, and we're arguing from the 96 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: perspective of how recovery works and how sleep works. And 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: I think that's why we would like to have it 98 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: start maybe just one and one hour. 99 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 2: Just one hour earlier. 100 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, besides that, what a great first match that was played, 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: No question, I watched Coco play every match. That was 102 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: by far the best match she's played the tournament. I 103 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: think she came out hitting her forehand really clearly, aggressively 104 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: swinging through it, which is literally the biggest issue that 105 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: she has. She sort of has that windscreen wiper forehand 106 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: finish and if you don't accelerate through that, it's going 107 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: to be in the bottom of the net. 108 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: And then when you get. 109 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Nervous or when you get nervous, if you don't swing, 110 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it becomes just a little too short and it sits there. 111 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: And at I thought Coco did a great job of 112 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: not panicking at the beginning, because Saballanka came. 113 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Out like she's done against everybody. It was just like seven. 114 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Points in a row, like oh my God, goes up 115 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: to love It's like here we go. But then all 116 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, especially from courtside, you could see the 117 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: shift with the anxiety level of Sabolenka when Coco broke 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: back to go to one, and then all of a sudden, 119 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, we've got the match that we 120 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: expected on her hands, Coco making a million balls, Coco 121 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: not missing the forehand, Coco hitting her back end great, 122 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Coco started to serve well, and then you saw all 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Saballanka went from controlling it to oh shit, 124 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: she's back to lockdown mode of not missing. And then 125 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: you could see the anxiety level grow. And there was 126 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: one point on her serve when she lost her serve. 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: I think it was at four to three, where she 128 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: won a point to go like fifteen all or something, 129 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: and she screamed really loud for the first time, like god, 130 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, that's a lot of anxiety for 131 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: someone who's leading us Upper Break right now. 132 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: And sure enough, that's the game she lost. 133 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Because when Sabalanca is obviously always a bit of a 134 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: nutter and always a little bit anxious looking, but you 135 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: can tell when the anxiety grows just at ten percent, 136 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, her timing goes completely off 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: on her groundies and she misses by a way like 138 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the net or twelve feet wide 139 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: and you're. 140 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Like, oh shit. 141 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, she's starting to press, knowing that 142 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Coco's getting the ball back. 143 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: She doesn't know what to do. 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I could tell that, like all the anxiety from the 145 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: US Oprah was like entering her body. 146 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: And then it became a match. 147 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: And then Coco was five four thirty love and missed 148 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: relatively easy FOURHANDIX five yeah, but the first set and 149 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, six five, and I was like, 150 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: oh boy. And then you could see Coco just realized, 151 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: oh no, my forehand, because the next point she had 152 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: a relatively easy forehand and just hit it so badly 153 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: with no racket heead speed whatsoever. And I hadn't seen 154 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: that for at least the whole set, and I went, 155 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: oh boy, this is going to be a tie break again, 156 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: and sure enough she was. 157 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Broken into a tiebreak. 158 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: It was, but it was so emotionally up and down 159 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: that first set. 160 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was. 161 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: It was really really high quality, I have to say. 162 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: And two things on Coco's forehand. I think when she 163 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: plays people like Saballeenka, she knows she has to hit 164 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: it right. When she plays Marta Costuk, she feels like 165 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: she can get away with just putting it in and 166 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: scraping by. Yeah, and scraping by on her athleticism, right, 167 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: And I think she likes the pace. I think when 168 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: somebody hits with and the thing is with Sablenka's forehand. 169 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: We talked about it over the course of the fortnite 170 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: many times. Yes, it's fast, but it's also a bit heavy, 171 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: so she can get under the ball. It's not necessarily 172 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: as flat as other girls play it, and so she. 173 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Can get under the ball. 174 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: And I think that suits her really well, that ball, 175 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: because it's fast so she doesn't have to generate too much, 176 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: but it still sits up enough that she can get 177 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: under the ball with that extreme of a grip. And 178 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: I think that's why the head to head is slightly 179 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: in favor of Coco, because I don't think the Saballenka 180 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: forehand bothers her as much. 181 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 182 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: And it was interesting because I saw them both, and 183 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: I saw Saberlenka in particular, who had so the choices 184 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: of where she was going to go with her backhand, 185 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: and rather than go to the forehand, she went big 186 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: to the back end, which is normally something where she's like, oh, 187 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to win this battle. I'm going to win 188 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: back in to back end against anybody, and arguably you 189 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: could say that, but against Coco negative, she's not going 190 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: to win that battle. Coco loves you hitting the ball 191 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: hard to her back end and her back end because 192 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: she's so athletic, she's going to win that boar a lot. 193 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: So you could tell that she was like panished, but 194 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: she was like trying to almost make a statement, I'm 195 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: going to hit you off the backhand, and then she's like, 196 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: oh shit, that's not working. So it was just so 197 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch this sort of like this whole matchup. 198 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: And you're right because in the next match with the 199 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Stremska and John they both hit the ball harder than Sablenka. 200 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: We showed it on the stats and because I said, 201 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I said something alike, yastrems. 202 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: Skeetz the ball so big, both of these two. 203 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: And then the guy that was working with, Chris Fawler, 204 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: He's like really, and I was like, oh, yeah, I 205 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: think you get. You get a little bit confused because 206 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the grunt is so loud. It sound like you're like, 207 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, that ball's coming so big. But it isn't, 208 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: because we proved it by showing that those two after 209 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: them actually hit the ball harder. 210 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: So I think you're right. 211 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: When it comes to Sevellanca, particularly the forehand, she puts 212 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: just enough spin, which is by the way, while she's 213 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: playing better yeah, on the ball, which allows Coco to 214 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: actually get under it a little bit. 215 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: So, but the tiebreakers, it was it was. 216 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: I think two things about Coco. I think she lost 217 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: the first set because of her serve. Again, it just 218 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: let her down with the double faults in the most 219 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: important moments. 220 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: I think at thirty fifty in the first set or something. 221 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think on the after she missed the forehand, 222 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: she had a double fail to go thirty all. 223 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: And that's the best feeling in the world on the 224 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: other side. 225 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: Because you're like, oh, her weaknesses are cracking exactly, because 226 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: that's just the mental signal I got her. 227 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: She's choking, she's tied, she's tense. But then I have 228 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: to also say, Coco water competitive her, Yeah, because just 229 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: looking at the tennis arena, Sablenka should win this match 230 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: and the form she's in right now six two sixty three, 231 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: but just by sheer competitiveness and mental strength and mental 232 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: fortitude and athleticism. Of course that back end cocoa almost 233 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 3: and I swear to God, if she had won that 234 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: first set, it would have been seven five sixty three, 235 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: because you could exactly what you said. And I was 236 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: watching in the green room getting ready for the next match, 237 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: so I was like a million miles away, and the 238 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: anxiety was bouncing off of the roof, and you could 239 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: just feel that US Open trauma, let's say, because she 240 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: should have won that final. 241 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: And the crowd was loud last night, the well because 242 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the roof was closed also, it was even louder, and 243 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: you could probably think in some respects As for Sabileanka 244 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: that oh god, there was no question of scar tissue. 245 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: I actually, after after the match, I did the flash 246 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: interview with her for ESPN and I did ask her, 247 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: was there a moment the US Open came into your mind? 248 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: And she said absolutely, which is. 249 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Interesting because some people say no, and Sabalanka is not 250 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: a bullshitter. 251 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: She's going to tell you the truth. She's like, yeah, 252 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: there's no question. 253 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: That started to creep into my mind a little bit 254 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: because it was very similar upper set and a break, 255 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: like looking comfortably in the crowd brought it back, and 256 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: there's no question in the crowd. I think the crowd 257 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: were very even in that match last night, but of 258 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: course they always root for the underdogs. 259 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: When what happened, yes, exactly, because Arena was up the 260 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: entire first set until Coco turned it around. 261 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: She want seven first seven points, so the crowd are like, oh, no, 262 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: this is going to be a Pooper Scooper match, you know, 263 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,359 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden. 264 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, we've got a match. 265 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: So I think they're really and frankly, I think the 266 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Sabalanca grunt kind of gets to people and gets annoying, 267 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: and I think some. 268 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: People that are really truly neutral starts. 269 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Sort of shifting towards at the player that's not making 270 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: the noise and not being like, you know, obnoxious in 271 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: their eyes, and they started pulling for Coco, I think 272 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: in that regard because of that. 273 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: But you know, we know that arenas. 274 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Well a nice girl. 275 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Both of them are really likable. I have to say. 276 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: I think you can tell that audience just flock to 277 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: both of them because they are an arena different than 278 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: than Coco, also a great competitor, just in her very 279 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: expressive right, you see the anxiety, you see the she's 280 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: a classic, She's a classic, but just both in their 281 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: own ways. And this is what I really like about them. 282 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: And I want to put Ega and and Rebeckena. 283 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: Into this as well. 284 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Like we talk about lack of personalities, and yes, maybe 285 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: Ega and Rebeccna a little bit more introverted, but they 286 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: all have their very own thing on court if you 287 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: think about it, the Ega nervousness, the anxiety that propelsal 288 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: to do better than the Rebeckena ice queen type of 289 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: thing where she never reacts to anything. They all have 290 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: their own manner and how they behave on court, and 291 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: I have to say I really like it. I feel 292 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: like there is this theory, the silhouette theory. I don't 293 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: know if you know that, and it's about how somebody 294 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: is iconic when you can just tell them by the silhouettes, 295 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: like the Michael Jordan classic Elvis. 296 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: You know, just by seeing the hair, you know. 297 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: Exactly who you're talking who it is Emmy Winehouse. And 298 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: I feel like if I could just glance at one 299 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: of these players and see how they walk and behave 300 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: on the court, I could ride away place them. And 301 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a great moment for women's tanners, 302 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: and yeah, the future looks bright because let's talk about 303 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: the second match. 304 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so chinwin Chin. 305 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting to me because I'm just gonna 306 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: toot my own horn here because you know how I 307 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: like to do that. But ESPN sent out an email 308 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: every single tournament proprior to okay, who's you know, who 309 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: your two picks and who your two picks outside of 310 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: the top ten to do well in the tournament? And 311 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: I picked much enough in the men's and I picked Q. 312 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: I picked chinwin. He gets to do well in the women's. 313 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: Now did I think she make the final? I didn't know, 314 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: but I certainly knew she had the capability of doing that, 315 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: just because the last twelve months has been an epic 316 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: rise for her and she's now with that win in 317 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: the top ten in the world. So you know, admittedly, 318 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I picked Eager in the tournament and I picked Novak 319 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: so for just to be honest, but my outsider is 320 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: looking really good. 321 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: But boy, talk about great composure. 322 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Yustramska came out, I have to say, considering they've never 323 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: been in a semifinal, either of them, considering you know, 324 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: the enormity of the crowd and the moment. I thought 325 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: they both came out looking very composed. Yustremsis obviously composed 326 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: because she's got to be fucking exhausted, and she's played 327 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: like forty eight matches, you know, to get their seven 328 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: matches to get to the semifinal, which is pretty extraordinary, especially. 329 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: In the quality. She won every match in three. 330 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: Sets, and in the when she got to the manger, 331 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: all her opponents were top fifty opponents. She only needs 332 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: top fifty with Bondrishiva at number seven in the world 333 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: in the first round, but she beat all top top 334 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: fifty opponents and interestingly in two sets, so clearly the 335 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: outside the top one hundred players somehow harder for her. 336 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: To I think she doesn't focus maybe on them or 337 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: just overplays, who knows, But her ranking will rise tremendously 338 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: after this. 339 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: She'll be almost seeded for the next Grand Slam. 340 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of players will appreciate that 341 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: they don't have to play her. But you know, it 342 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: was a really, really good competitive match. There's no question 343 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: that Astronska came out playing unbelievable got up to love 344 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: as well. 345 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: Last night you're like, okay, But then Q. 346 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Has this amazing ability to be so composed. And I 347 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: love her personality on the court because I think she's 348 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: super composed. She doesn't show a lot of facial expressions 349 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: or being upset or being happy. But then when she 350 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: plays a great point and she lets out there cool. Yes, 351 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: I love that because she's letting her opponent know that, 352 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm composed, but I'm also to step 353 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: on you when it's time, and very similar to Pete Sampress. 354 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Pete Sampress was like that. 355 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: He's like very very cool, and then when he went 356 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: on that one time, you were like, oh shit. Roger 357 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: was like that federer very rarely let out to come on. 358 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: But I love qu'es personality like that. 359 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: And what you said, what you just said, now, I 360 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: want to pick up on that because that is such 361 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: astute observation that you said about when she's there, when 362 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: she's in front, she steps on you because she is 363 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: a front runner. We had the stat and the booth. 364 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: When she breaks early, she wins eighty two percent of sets. 365 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: That's an incredible value. And she also is eighteen and 366 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: one when she wins the first set in Grand slams, 367 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: and the only time she lost was the Ego Shiantech 368 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: match at the French Open when she had the period crams. 369 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: Do you remember that she's and she's playing on ego 370 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: and clay, so even without period crams, it would have 371 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: been really tough to pull through. And she was so 372 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: young and that was two years that was two years ago, 373 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: So exactly what you said, she's an app front runner. 374 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: And who do we know to be front runners? The 375 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: se Arenas, Arenas, that's it. 376 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: Well, the big champions, right, the Rogers, Yeah, the Rafas, 377 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: the Novaks when they break early. You can go take 378 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: a photograph of yourself how you looked at that moment. 379 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: You can walk to the net and shake hands. But 380 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I thought she was great. Yustromska, you know, had the 381 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: trainer outd at one point. I'm not sure what happened there, 382 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: but you know, she has played a lot of tennis, 383 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: so wouldn't surprise me if she's a little injured. But 384 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: just overall, I think chin Win is a player that 385 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, there is so much about her game that 386 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: can get better too, as particular the second serve her 387 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: volleys because she hits such a big ball and heavy ball. 388 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: It's going to actually allow her to come into the 389 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: net more than she realizes because women on the run, 390 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a back end or forehand, is 391 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that when the balls hit with that top spin, it's 392 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: jumping out of their head zone. So there's going to 393 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: be balls that they just get to, but it's going 394 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: to be in the air. 395 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: And if she can learn to just. 396 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Take that out of the air, I think that'll be 397 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: even an added thing for her. So there's so many 398 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: things that she can get better at. 399 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: So let's play it. 400 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: But both players, really, I think Diana also, I think 401 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: also that she played good. I think she probably had 402 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: matches where she would say she played better, but she played, 403 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: as you said, seven thousand matches coming here, so she 404 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: clearly was a bit tired. She returned so hard and 405 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: it was really, oh my god, so hard, yes, so hard, 406 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: by far the hardest of all the eight quarter finalists actually, 407 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: And it was so great to see how chin Wen 408 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: got used to it. In the beginning, she was overwhelmed 409 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: by the pace that came at her, but then she 410 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 3: just got used to it and she kept doing this 411 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: little pick up and utilizing the rally, and oh god, 412 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: on the forehand side with that extreme grip. I was like, 413 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: oh my god, that's really hard. And I think if 414 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Diana can develop her defensive game a little bit, because 415 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: you can see it. 416 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when she's on the Dame run, she still 417 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: tried to go for the most. 418 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: She goes for a winner, but you see why because 419 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: she never actually catches her body weight to cover the 420 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: other core or she always runs through it. And if 421 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: you run through it just a few steps, you have 422 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: to hit a winner because you're not coming back. And 423 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 3: so if she can develop that maybe a bit more, 424 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: maybe it's a strength thing. 425 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Maybe she just needs. 426 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: To get a bit stronger and the legs and the 427 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: glutes that she can catch her body weight. 428 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: And chin Wen does that amazing. 429 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: And I really think, and you'd asked her in the 430 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: interview about it, I really think her defensive game yesterday, 431 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: which was the difference because she got a few slices 432 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: back where you thought the point was over. Diana doesn't 433 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: like the short slice into the that's the only shot 434 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: she accelerates her wrist on and her stroke on is 435 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: when she gets that short slice into the Like Taylor Fritz, 436 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: we talked about it in the other day, and so 437 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: for both players, still very young, incredible prospects. If they 438 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: improve a few of the aspects of the game, I 439 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: think they will be contenders at every single Grand Slam 440 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: if they put their mindset. And you know, there are 441 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: so many things you have to stay healthy, you have 442 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: to learn to deal with the expectations that now come 443 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 3: your way, and so on and so forth. But just 444 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: strictly tennis wise speaking, I think both of these players 445 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: have incredible potential, especially chin When because she has pois Yeah. 446 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: The poisons. 447 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: Although Ystremsk has improved hers as well because she used 448 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more petulant and she default 449 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: matches and call the trainer out and all the bullshit 450 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: that she does and had done in the past. I 451 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: think she's hopefully realizing that that's actually A not. 452 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: Cool and B. 453 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't need to do that, No, I'm too good, 454 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Like I gotta get the respect from the locker room back, 455 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: and that's you know, slowly, hopefully with these results, she'll 456 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: get that respect back in the locker room because of it, 457 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: because she's had. 458 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Some dobus defaults in the past. 459 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that, Like six Love five love 460 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: and they said. 461 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: I've had enough classic dds the classic d default. 462 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: Yes, that's it and we'll get that put on a 463 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: T shirt. So finals, Sabolenka, chinwin. 464 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: What do you think? 465 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: I think so Arena, I'm I'm going to back Zabalenka. 466 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: I think she's I said it before, I'll say it again. 467 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: She's the player to be that this Australian as this 468 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: year is Australian Open. I think she should be at 469 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: this form, she should be unplayable. I think she has 470 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: these quirks where she just wanders off for a few 471 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: games and overplays and instead of just you know, putting 472 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: the ball in and waiting for the right volley, she 473 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: sometimes just gets nervous and anxious. 474 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: But she is. 475 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: Just, I want to say, two levels ahead of the 476 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: pack right now. 477 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: I will say though. 478 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: The most impressive thing about Gin went to me was 479 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: she had all the pressure ever since the quarterfinals on 480 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: her shoulders, even though the first time she reached the 481 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 3: second round, second sorty, second round, second week of a 482 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: Grand Slam was four months ago at the US Open. 483 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: So she's not experienced and she did it so well. 484 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: She was expected to make the final. That's the toughest 485 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: place to be in, especially as a young player, and 486 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: she made the final and now lutely nothing to lose. 487 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: She can play with full freedom, she can go for it, 488 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: she can swing freely, and it's going to be interesting 489 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: to see how Arena reacts to that happiness off the forehand, 490 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: because she hasn't had that so much so far. 491 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: I did interview Ginuin after the match and her when 492 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: I asked her about playing the final, because the last 493 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: time they played, she got absolutely smacked of the court 494 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: at the US Open by Sablenka. But she's a more 495 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: experienced player now and she's arguably a better player now. 496 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: But I did ask her about how she's going to 497 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: turn it around, and basically she said, look, it's a final. 498 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: Anything can happen in a final, and you just never know. 499 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: And I thought that's really smart. She's not like, oh, 500 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: it's my first, it's her third, Like you know, she 501 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about Sabolenca being this player. 502 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: She's like, there's vulnerabilities there. 503 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: Everyone has vulnerabilities in finals, and I'm going to take 504 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: advantage of that. 505 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 506 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a competitive match, because if it is, it'll 507 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: be great. 508 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: And I have to say one thing, and I have 509 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: to make this point. Remember five six days ago when 510 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: everyone was talking about how the women's draft fell apart 511 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: and how all the seeds are dropping like flies. In 512 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: the end, all is good because we have the second 513 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: best player in the world in one of the bottom 514 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: halves that came through, and we have a young, very 515 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: talented now top ten player on the other side. So 516 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: if we could have signed this before the Australian Open, 517 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: all of us would because chin Wen has been the 518 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: hope for the last two years and Arena obviously has 519 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: played so solidly on the Grand Slam stages. So really 520 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: nothing went that much awry. 521 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can tell you the tournament's happy about it, 522 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: especially Australia. The Australian Open is the Oceania Pacific Grand Slam. Yes, 523 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: And so trust me, when you have a Chinese player 524 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: in the final and you've got six billion people literally 525 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not making that number up this time, like are 526 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: going to be watching this match, and the interest in 527 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: tennis in China again with what happened with Lena, who's 528 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: here at this tournament because it's a tenth year anniversary, 529 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: which is fantastic, and I have a feeling and I 530 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: don't know this, I have a feeling she might be 531 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: the one giving the trophy out. 532 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that would be cool because that's one of the. 533 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: Reasons why they probably you know, she's down here, so 534 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know who's going to be, that's 535 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: just a guess. 536 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be. 537 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: Great, Yes, and amazing if it was Chinwin who ended 538 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: up winning the tournament and getting the trophy from Lena, 539 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: But either way, it's going to be a great fin Yeah. 540 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: And just a little anecdote with our booth is next 541 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: to CCTV. Oh, so we ran into the Chinese reporters 542 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: after Chin win one and they were besides costs, beside themselves, 543 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: and we asked them, how many people do you think 544 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: we'll watch? And they were just gesturing like they can't 545 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: even place the number. 546 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: How many? Well, they were so excited. It was really 547 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: fun to us. 548 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: And she is going to influence some little eleven year 549 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: old kid to take up tennis and play tennis, because 550 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: that's what happened when we've all seen the photo of 551 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: Chinwin watching the women's final when Lina won it, and 552 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: this big smile on her face, and who would have 553 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: thought ten years later she'd be having a chance to 554 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: do the same thing. 555 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: So role models are very. 556 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Very importan just real quick, because we don't we don't 557 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: want to keep going on and on forever. Novak and Sinner, 558 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: It's going to be a great match today. 559 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for both. 560 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, all semi finals, the laymen's and men's 561 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: side are just little cupcakes with a little bit of 562 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: jam filling, a nice frosting and frostings. 563 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: Yes, no sprinkles, just a little bit of sprinkle incline. Yeah, 564 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: what you know what the sprinkle is? Yeah, that you 565 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: and I get to announce the matches. Oh, that's true. 566 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: That is the sprinkle. And just two words. 567 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Because the Germans were in the doubles semifinals Men's Cup, 568 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: Fat and Huntman, so I watched the entire doubles I 569 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: think maybe this was the first time I watched the 570 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: doubles from first point to last and both men's semi finals, 571 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: I know, and in the third set tiebreaker and it 572 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: was incredible. It was so exciting and a true nail 573 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: bier Rohamopana forty three years old. I mean, honestly, re name, 574 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit this pointed by you, because I 575 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: still expect you to come back and show these girls 576 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: and get your shit together, start working out, fix your shoulder, 577 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: fix your neck, and stop being a pussy as bitch. 578 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the problem. The shoulder is not going 579 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: to be hitting serves the way I used to. But 580 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if I could, I would definitely 581 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: get back out there. Having said that, speaking of doubles, 582 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: what about Siuewey shape. I know drew to another final 583 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: aget in women's doubles. That was an amazing match yesterday. 584 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: There were some crazy points and Shue is just Suwey 585 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: is just classic. I mean the ship that she can 586 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: pull off on the doubles court. I mean I played 587 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: against her a couple of times and she's just hilarious. 588 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Zero power except when she wants to, she can slap 589 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: a winner here and there. This is what the women 590 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: and in particular the guys are still playing sort of 591 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: traditional doubles, especially Rohan Bapana and Nat Ebden. 592 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: They're serving and bowling, They're coming to the net. 593 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Doubles is always going to be about taking away certain 594 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: angles and being at the net is a very important thing. 595 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: But also Doubles is not about eating the shit out 596 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: of the ball. Doubles is about placement of the shot. 597 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: Doubles is about putting your opponents in difficult situations. Doubles 598 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: is about rolling the ball to people's feet they can't 599 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: volley instead of just bashing every ball. She's the one 600 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: player out there, and merchants, I have to say, to 601 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: a certain degree, they are creative. You have to be 602 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: creative in doubles, and you have to play certain angles 603 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: and certain shots and understand why your opponents are And 604 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: no one does it better still to this day than Suway. 605 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: And so she show to another Grand Slam and steps. 606 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be as if we didn't mention two frosty 607 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: handshakes on the women's side, Sinakov and Krichikova, who splits, played. 608 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: Each other in the quarterfinals. 609 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: Frosty Kova with storm Hunter went through frosty handshake yesterday. 610 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: Elise Matt and so used to play with storm Hunter. 611 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: Frosty handshake. Frosty handshake. 612 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: So we're just going to put it out there in 613 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: the universe without commenting on it further. 614 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: Frosty handshakes. 615 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: All right, Medvedev, this should be another t shirt, frosty 616 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: handshakes and then on the back of photo of Osto Penko. 617 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: Because she's the queen. 618 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, Medvedev and Verev in the evening, I'm pumped 619 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: about that as well. Hopefully Medvedev can like finish this 620 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Zverev off and have him like deal with his court case, 621 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: because if I have to listen to one more fucking 622 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: person talk about, well, is Zverev still playing, Well, it's 623 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: the way the law works. Kids, you can't stop him 624 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: from playing. But I just hope that Medvedev makes it 625 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: through to another final. He's played more freaking tennis this 626 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: two weeks he's been on the court. He looked like, 627 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: as I said, looked like the guy that walked out 628 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: of the desert after like trying to find his car 629 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: and he got lost because he lost his keys or 630 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: something that, you know. 631 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: He looked like he looked like he was in the 632 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: basement and the apocalypse happened and he walked out and 633 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: the humanity was wiped off of earth, my god, and. 634 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: He walked around for three days getting sunburned, like his hair, 635 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: and he's like, anyway, I freaking love the guy so much, 636 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: so hopefully he can get through that match, and I'm not. 637 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: I listen, I am so beyond respect. My level of 638 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: respect for Novak is through the roof like he's And 639 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: it would be kind of fitting for him to break 640 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: the twenty four, even though Serena didn't do it, to 641 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: beat it with Margaret Court, Oh yeah, because you know, 642 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm desperate for someone to like knock Margaret caught off 643 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: of her perch of the having the most Grand Slams 644 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: even though she won ten of them down here with 645 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: like half a field. But I just but I would 646 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: love to see Yannick breakthrough. I said that I think 647 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: he can win a Grand Slam this year, and I 648 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: thought the Austrain Open was actually a really good place 649 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: for him because I think the court suits him, the 650 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: ball suits him. So over five sets, Nianik has to 651 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: compartmentalize every set, one set next, one set next, Like 652 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: you can't be like, oh my god, I've got to 653 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: win another set. You just have to compartmentalize and go 654 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: set by set, And I think that he's going to 655 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: do that today. 656 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Can he win? We'll see. 657 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait for these matches today. Thanks for joining 658 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: us today. 659 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: You little added anything. I don't I don't. 660 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: I sign most of the things you say, except for 661 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: the controversial stuff. 662 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: I hope you get the only heat for that. 663 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: But that's why i'm here, kid, that's why I'm here. 664 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, guys, thanks again for listening to us. 665 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: It's daytime. 666 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna go shower and get ourselves ready for the day, 667 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: so thanks for listening. 668 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: So everyone cheers.