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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I

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Speaker 2: hope all of you are having fantastic Fridays, and I

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Speaker 2: hope we can continue that as we roll through the

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Speaker 2: course of today's program. We got a lot to discuss

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court, but maybe most significantly Buck, still no ruling

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Speaker 2: on presidential immunity or on whether or not the Sarvaines

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Speaker 2: Oxley Act can be twisted to allow the January sixth

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Speaker 2: protesters to be charged with obstruction of proceedings. Those are

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Speaker 2: two still monster cases that are out there. My prediction

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Speaker 2: for a while now has been that they will drop

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Speaker 2: these into sort of the holiday weekend basket because a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are going to take off. We got

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Speaker 2: July fourth, on a Thursday and a Friday. Looking ahead,

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Speaker 2: as I know many of you have probably planned summer

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Speaker 2: vacations around that week. I think they're going to drop

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Speaker 2: it somewhere in the vicinity of there to kind of

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Speaker 2: deaden it into a holiday weekend. That's been my prediction,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see what ends up happening. They did have

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Speaker 2: a major ruling on a bump stock case right that

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Speaker 2: I saw you tweeting about. That is the right result

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Speaker 2: so far from your perspective.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, a chair is not a sofa, and a duck

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Speaker 3: is not a flamingo. A bump stock is not a

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Speaker 3: machine gun. This is rather straightforward. And for anybody who,

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Speaker 3: first of all, I don't even know if you own

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Speaker 3: a bum stock, please like let us know, like right

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Speaker 3: in and be like, hey, I love my bump stock.

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Speaker 3: I know what they are. I've never fired one. I

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Speaker 3: don't know anybody who has one. It's kind of an

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Speaker 3: enthusiast thing. Some people have them. You can mimic a

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Speaker 3: bump stock by using your belt loop, so it's the

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Speaker 3: whole thing. I mean, it never was a smart ruling

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Speaker 3: in the first place, and sixty three is the right

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Speaker 3: ruling in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Biden is still I believe in Italy it

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Speaker 2: has not gone well.

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Speaker 1: The G seven is meeting there.

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Speaker 2: Many different videos of Biden have gone viral on this

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Speaker 2: trip so far, all of them having to do with

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Speaker 2: the space cadet aspects of his presidency. Front page Italian

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Speaker 2: newspaper ridiculing Joe Biden for being out of touch, slow speaking, halting.

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Speaker 2: We got to go to Italy to get honest news reporting.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to jump in on your mono intro here, Clay,

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Speaker 3: but we are forgetting something very important. It is President

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Speaker 3: Trump's birthday today. It is President Trump's birthday. So just

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Speaker 3: want to say happy birthday the greatest President, President Trump.

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Speaker 2: There you go, seventy eight right, seventy eight forty five,

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Speaker 2: the forty fifth president, soon to be the forty seventh.

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Speaker 1: Sixty A hair of a thirty five year.

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Speaker 2: Old, health of a health of a twenty five year old,

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Speaker 2: according to his doctors. Biden did and you were watching MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: We've been texting about this this morning. You took out

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Speaker 2: like the biggest MSNBC fan on the planet. Let me

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Speaker 2: you let me know what you want me to jump

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Speaker 2: in and give you a window into what it's like

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Speaker 2: to watch MSNBC in the morning, because this morning was

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, Joe Biden addressed the hunter. Biden

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Speaker 2: he only took two questions, and we're going to play

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Speaker 2: you the cuts, and they were preapproved questions. Joe Biden says, Now,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Buck, he's not going to pardon or

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Speaker 2: commute the sentence of Hunter Biden. We certainly do agree

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Speaker 2: that that is not an honest answer, But Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: wants you to know Hunter is one of the brightest,

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Speaker 4: Listen, in regard to the question regarding the family, I'm

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Speaker 4: extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome an addiction.

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Speaker 4: He is He's one of the greatest, most decent men

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Speaker 4: I know. And I am satisfied that I'm not going

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Speaker 2: He also said he wouldn't commute him. Okay, I just

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Speaker 2: want to play this. This was the press conference. Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Cut three says he's only going to take two questions,

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Speaker 2: So listen to this, and then I want to play

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Speaker 2: when somebody goes off script. The fact that we've just

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Speaker 1: Here's cut three. Now we will do what You're going

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Speaker 4: Two questions from America reporters, and two questions from two

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Speaker 4: The first the first person I'm to call and is

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Buck, they're giving him a list of who

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Speaker 1: And here is cut four.

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Speaker 2: Somebody goes off script and asks him something he's not expecting,

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Speaker 6: but if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you

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Speaker 6: about your discussions on the situation in Gaza here at

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Speaker 6: the summit. You were asked us a short time ago

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Speaker 6: about it after the skydepping demonstration. Can you give us

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Speaker 6: your assessment of Hamasa's response and do you believe that

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Speaker 6: about what more, if anything, the US can do to

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Speaker 6: drive towards a piece of green. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I wish you guys were a little play by the

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Speaker 4: rules a little bit. I'm here to talk about a

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Speaker 4: critical situation in Ukraine. You're asking me another subject about

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Speaker 4: I'll be happy to answer it in detail later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you as troubled by this as I am

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Speaker 2: bucked the idea that oppressed which is supposed to be independent.

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Speaker 2: We know, I understand that we have basically provda in

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Speaker 2: many different aspects of the American political press now, But

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Speaker 2: the idea that the president, who never holds press conferences,

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Speaker 2: who virtually never does interviews, would be able to have

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Speaker 2: his team script who's asking questions and exactly what those

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Speaker 2: questions are, and that Biden would lecture if they're broken

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Speaker 2: the rules just a little bit. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: big story and it deserves discussion, even if it's not

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Speaker 1: I think it's a big story.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama didn't do this, Like you could rip Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: you could rip Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 1: This is every day. I mean, this is but got

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Speaker 2: But I think we've gotten so used to the idea

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Speaker 2: and that they write it, that we shouldn't avoid calling

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Speaker 2: out how abnormal it is is, particularly when it's getting

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Speaker 2: noticed in Europe and they're like, this is the American president.

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Speaker 2: They're calling out our president more than our media is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hate to be that guy, but I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be. This is why they're holding a debate

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Speaker 3: as early as they are. They're going to pump Biden

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Speaker 3: full of stuff. He's going to seem energetic and with

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Speaker 3: it during that debate. Just just mark my words, everyone,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you what's going to happen. He's going to

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Speaker 3: seem energetic and with it that debate. The entire media

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Speaker 3: apparatus then goes all out play messaging all summer. Biden

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Speaker 3: still the best option. Sure he's older, but did you

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Speaker 3: see how sharp he was at the debate and all

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Speaker 3: this stuff, all the you know, the he doesn't do

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Speaker 3: press conferences and he wanders around and he's like mister

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Speaker 3: Magoo except evil. All of that gets swept aside by

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Speaker 3: look at how he did in the debate, which is

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Speaker 3: why they're holding a debate in quite obviously. I mean,

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Speaker 3: birthday president, which was sharing the greatest hits of Biden.

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Speaker 3: You guys have do you guys have this one? The

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Speaker 3: greatest hits of Joe Biden. President Trump shared this on

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Speaker 3: truth social which then also got shared elsewhere, and uh,

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Speaker 3: I do we we.

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Speaker 1: Must have it? Where is that one? You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, I show right? Are they trut to be self evident?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Women created by go you know the you know the thing?

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Speaker 4: America is a nation that can be defined in a

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Speaker 4: single word. I was gonna foot him foothills of the mlasing.

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Speaker 7: Knows, he knows.

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Speaker 1: So long as this is nine, I'll see you can

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Speaker 1: never be secured.

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Speaker 4: We'll never forget lying around and as him him lying around. Actually,

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Speaker 4: it is noteworthy that the percentage of women who registered

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Speaker 4: to vote and cast a ballot is consistently higher than

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Speaker 4: the percentage.

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Speaker 5: Of the men who do so.

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Speaker 4: End of quote, repeat the line.

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Speaker 2: How lated effect the strategy to bobilize tru I suver

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Speaker 3: Those are two of the best, By the way, Truman,

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Speaker 3: not Sugarra That's one of my favorites. But also end

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Speaker 3: of quote, repeat the line is his true Ron Burgundy moment.

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Speaker 3: I just I know, look it's fun. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: also kind of shocking and horrifying. I know he's the

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Speaker 3: we sit here, Clay, we poke fun. I just I

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Speaker 3: don't want anyone to have false hope that Biden's apparent

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Speaker 3: decline in dementia is going to be the silver bullet,

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Speaker 3: so to speak, for this election. Like it's it's just

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Speaker 3: thing that's going to turn the election for Joe. I mean,

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Speaker 3: do you like I actually this is I think that

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Speaker 2: I do think that ultimately it's going to come down

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Speaker 2: to for the Look, we agree that there are forty

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Speaker 2: five percent of Trump supporters or Republican voters conservative. However,

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Speaker 2: you want to classify a forty five percent of Biden,

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Speaker 2: there's about ten percent of people, let's say, that are

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Speaker 2: being a little bit excessive. I think for those ten percent,

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Speaker 2: it's going to come down to, yeah, I don't really

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Speaker 2: like Trump or Biden, that they're the double hater brigade.

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Speaker 2: Some of those people will vote for RFK Junior and

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Speaker 2: other third parties, But when they make that decision between

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Speaker 2: to Trump's kind of a jerk in the mind of

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Speaker 2: these people. Biden's brain doesn't work, and I think these

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Speaker 2: people are going to come down on the side of Trump,

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Speaker 2: because if you have to choose, if you had to

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Speaker 2: choose out there right now at your business, would you

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Speaker 2: rather work for the jerk or the guy with dementia

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Speaker 2: most people are going to pick the jerk over dementia. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying for those that are undecided, And obviously there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of factors here. Biden's done a poor job.

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Speaker 2: I think it's not just the dementia. I think it's

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Speaker 2: also the rise in price of goods, the southern border,

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Speaker 2: the fact that he's failed. If it were just dementia

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Speaker 2: and Biden weren't the incumbent against the jerk, I think

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Speaker 2: Trump would be in trouble. I think this is the

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Speaker 2: So we'll see, and I would just say the media member,

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Speaker 2: the debate will happen. The media will be running clips

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Speaker 2: and analysis based on that debate the entire summer, and

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Speaker 3: A few things we're gonna be talking about the latest

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Speaker 3: You just change around the profession in la same thing.

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Speaker 3: You just changed around the profession. But it's basically the

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Speaker 3: same demo. But it's overwhelmingly upper income, smug white Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I know they also have minorities watched too, but I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about the primary smug white Democrats who want to

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Speaker 3: feel good about themselves and have a group of people

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Speaker 3: at table, in this case Morning Joe telling them they

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Speaker 3: are smarter and better people than the other meaning Republicans

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Speaker 3: and Trump voters. And that's the whole I mean, I

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Speaker 3: went through the topics capitalism is bad, a play about slavery,

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Speaker 3: Trump is a criminal, Trump is a criminal, and Mitch

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Speaker 3: McConnell should be ashamed of himself. Like this is like

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Speaker 3: the morning fare they offer over there. It just sounds miserable.

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Speaker 3: I mean I did early morning radio.

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Speaker 2: My thought process in early morning radio and obviously sports

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Speaker 2: talk radio was we're gonna sometimes talk about serious things,

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Speaker 2: because there are serious that COVID happened, right, But in

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Speaker 2: general I want to do a fun show that makes

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Speaker 2: people laugh and it can still do serious discussion. But

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Speaker 2: people with most people and we're we're building out an

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Speaker 2: out kick show right now. Most people don't roll out

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Speaker 2: of bed and just want to be told that the

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Speaker 2: world is awful. Right maybe later in the day you're

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Speaker 2: ready for shows are supposed to look I did.

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Speaker 3: I launched what is now called Rising. I was the

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Speaker 3: first host with Crystal Ball True Story. We launched Rising,

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Speaker 3: and we knew that there had to be like a

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Speaker 3: little more like you know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody like welcome, like good morning, like it's good morning.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they can't be like and they do cooking

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Speaker 2: on these shows, a Stalinist table pounding right away, no

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Speaker 2: matter how much of a left winger somebody may be

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Speaker 2: or you know, right wing, which is what surprises me

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Speaker 2: about that show's success. I get that there's a market

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Speaker 2: the one you hit that I that I said immediately, okay,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense if you're in the political DC ecosystem

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Speaker 2: and you want to know what the talking points are

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Speaker 2: for the day for people on the left in the country.

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe has sort of occupied that lane.

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Speaker 2: That makes some sense, But there's not that many of

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Speaker 2: those people right in the grand numbers. So the idea

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Speaker 2: that you would want to wake up and early in

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Speaker 2: the morning be like, I want to watch an interview

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Speaker 2: with a guy who says capitalism is awful, while, as

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Speaker 2: you point out, relishing all of the benefits of capitalism from.

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Speaker 3: Your One of their biggest sponsors is Starbucks. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: MSNBC's Morning Joe Capitalism is awful, brought to you by Starbucks. Like,

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Speaker 3: this is what's actually happening over there. The hypocrisy, the

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Speaker 3: whole thing is so absurd. The the the moral preening.

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Speaker 3: They pretend to care so much about trans rites and

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Speaker 3: and you know, and the black community and.

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarbamiko Brusinski. They have all just it's all just

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Speaker 1: a calm.

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Speaker 3: They don't care about any of that. They don't care

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Speaker 3: about any of those people. But their audience of people

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Speaker 3: worth you know, two to ten million dollars who live

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Speaker 3: in Chevy Chase, they care to pretend that they care

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Like to your point, I understand if you're watching Fox

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Speaker 2: Business or you're watching CNBC. To me, those are high

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Speaker 2: net worth people who want to know what the latest

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Speaker 2: business stories are. It's not necessarily again a huge population.

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Speaker 2: But I know Fox and Friends fairly well. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they have the same tone as the as the

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Speaker 2: Morning Joe Show.

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Speaker 3: Now it's been fair I have it there, you're not

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Speaker 3: sitting there. And first of all, I mean I've seen

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Speaker 3: it a fair amount. I haven't I haven't really watched

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Speaker 3: much Fox for a while, but I've seen the fair

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Speaker 3: amount of it over the years. And you know, Deucey

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Speaker 3: tries to Doucey Senior tries to play it pretty straight.

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Speaker 3: Usually you know, kill me gives a little more of

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Speaker 3: the of the conservative side of the news analysis, I

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Speaker 3: would say, And and uh uh Ainsley as Ainsley is

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Speaker 3: basically doing news in commentary, but you know she's not

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Speaker 3: attacking anybody. Yeah, so it's a very different feeling. It's

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Speaker 3: there's a there's a I'm telling you, the whole Morning

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Speaker 3: Joe thing is it's like recreating for insecure people who

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Speaker 3: haven't achieved despite all their resume bullets, what they wanted

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Speaker 3: in life. Morning Joe is an invitation to sit at

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Speaker 3: the cool kids table, but they're actually not cool and

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Speaker 3: they're not good at anything.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I just you know, like if you

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Speaker 2: had a we have a coffee company, and they have that.

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Speaker 2: You may have heard they have the test of like,

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Speaker 2: whoever's gonna win this election is going to be the

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Speaker 2: guy you'd most likely to have a beer with. Now,

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Speaker 2: either Trump nor Biden drink, but that's been a regular test.

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Speaker 2: I would say in morning television, the winner would be

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Speaker 2: the people you'd most like to have a cup of

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Speaker 2: coffee with. Back in the day, Katie Curican before the

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Speaker 2: Matt Lauer got you know me tooed they it seemed

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Speaker 2: like fairly easy going, like, hey, let's have a cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee with these guys. The Scarborough strident propaganda. I'm

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Speaker 2: surprised there's an audience that early in the morning for

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Speaker 2: strident propaganda. I I just am and you probably have

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Speaker 2: nailed who exactly is watching that, But man, what a

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Speaker 2: just awful way to start your momd Like I make

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Speaker 2: fun of the view, but at least in the view.

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Speaker 2: I know it's a little bit later in the day,

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Speaker 2: but at least they do have lighthearted elements. I can

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Speaker 2: see why it would be appealing to a suburban mom

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Speaker 2: occasionally to watch the view, Like I don't I think

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Speaker 2: the people on there primarily idiots, but I can see

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Speaker 2: why that would be an enjoyable show. The Morning Joe

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Speaker 2: thing of just telling you things that you that are

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Speaker 2: directly contradictory to what you see with your own eyes.

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Speaker 2: That seems like an awful viewing.

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Speaker 3: But the reason that I do this now, I mean

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Speaker 3: one is that I just find it. I find it

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Speaker 3: a music because it's worse than I had. You know,

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Speaker 3: we usually just look at the clips, right when you

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Speaker 3: look at the full content wheel, when you look at

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Speaker 3: the editorial decisions being made, it's it's a you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm familiar with indoctrination, might even have a book coming

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Speaker 3: out that deals with it. So I sit there and

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Speaker 3: I go through, like what they're trying to present and

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Speaker 3: why they're doing this for their audience. They are presenting

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Speaker 3: really an alternate reality for yeah, and and it's very

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Speaker 3: stage managed, in stage crafted. And I understand by the

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Speaker 3: way that they will say the same thing about Fox

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Speaker 3: and they'll say the same thing about Fox and Friends.

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Speaker 3: But but hold on a second, to the point that

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Speaker 3: I'm making Fox and Friends is not it's not nasty.

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Speaker 3: It's not a constant like assault of the other side.

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Speaker 3: And they, you know, they do like, hey, here's a

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Speaker 3: guy at a diner and like here's like a you know,

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Speaker 3: a pie eating contest, and like here's a country music band.

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Speaker 7: They have the.

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Speaker 3: Hill today, Like it's a different thing, the the most

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Speaker 3: and the reason I keep honing in on them on

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Speaker 3: their morning show is I'm telling you this is their

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Speaker 3: this is their flagship for this election. Morning Joe has

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Speaker 3: become the Democrat flagship. So if you want to understand

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Speaker 3: the messaging that will filter out everywhere else. You know,

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Speaker 3: it used to be mad Out eight pm MSNBC. Before that,

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Speaker 3: it was Anderson Cooper at CNN. Like, if you want

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Speaker 3: to see what the messaging is to, I mean, but

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Speaker 3: I do it so you don't have to. Obviously, I

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Speaker 3: get that right, like this is this is my job.

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Speaker 3: But it is remarkable to see how consistent it is.

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Speaker 3: And also, Clay, I mean, the the the obsession in

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Speaker 3: all regards with DEI over there is you can just

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Speaker 3: tell everything happened. There's always a Dei angle to every

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Speaker 3: segment effected everything, whether it's who's on the segment, or

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Speaker 3: how they're approaching the segment, or the you know, analysis

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Speaker 3: in the segment. Dei is really the central religious principle

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Speaker 3: of the left. Well, everybody on that show, ironically, of course,

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Speaker 3: is white.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a rich white people who have a

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Speaker 3: lot of minority guests on and they are very Oh

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Speaker 3: you're amazing, amazing, You're amazing. And this is why I

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Speaker 3: say the audience is predominantly you know. It's it's like

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Speaker 3: a government contractor and a uh, you know, State department

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Speaker 3: employee who live in you know, Georgetown, and this is

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Speaker 3: their worldview and they want to think that they're really

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Speaker 3: they really care about.

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Speaker 1: You know, the oppressed or the dei or whatever. There

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling people, no, I think it's fun. I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's wild. I've never watched the show other

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Speaker 2: than the play.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you guys. What's going to be really

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Speaker 3: fun is I on election night? God God willing Trump wins.

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Speaker 3: I'm only watching MSNBC. I'm only watching cause any it's

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Speaker 3: so fun. If I was watching twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: when they were figuring out that Trump loss may have

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Speaker 3: been the greatest moment in TV, I mean, sorry, Trump

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Speaker 3: won and Hillary loss may have been the greatest moment

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Speaker 3: in TV history. Look, if the head of a company

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Speaker 3: instead takes a newer of compensation. It's got to be

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Speaker 3: a better payday, right, That's the plan that CEO Porter

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Speaker 3: new form of money in America and it's making some

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Speaker 3: Porter points out. What's interesting is that while every American

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Speaker 2: Before we dive into this, Caitlin Clark Frenzy, I just

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Speaker 2: got a request for comment from NBC News and it

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Speaker 2: ties in so perfectly with what we were just discussing

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Speaker 2: about Morning Joe. The request is they're doing a story

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Speaker 2: NBC has They say that Joe Biden was walking away

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Speaker 2: and they claim that he was walking away to congratulate people.

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Speaker 2: And they're asking for a comment because they are doing

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Speaker 2: a story saying that Joe Biden is being unfairly criticized

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Speaker 2: for not being on top of the.

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Speaker 1: Not being on top of the story.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that they will officially use my comment,

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Speaker 2: but I just tweeted my comment.

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Speaker 1: You can watch the Evening News and see if they

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Speaker 1: use it.

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Speaker 2: NBC News has asked for a comment about me sharing

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Speaker 2: a video of Joe Biden. Joe Biden wondering away at

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Speaker 2: the G seven yesterday. They say he's sharp as attack

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Speaker 2: and I'm sharing misinformation. My comment for them, Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise

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Speaker 2: is a lie. Let's see if quote from Clay Travis.

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Speaker 2: Since they wanted a comment, Let's see whether or not

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Speaker 2: they actually share that comment with their audience. So just FYI,

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Speaker 2: you may see a hit piece coming on your your

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Speaker 2: favorite Clay and Buck show here over misinformation that we're

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Speaker 2: sharing about Joe Biden. But I do think it ties

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Speaker 2: in so well with what you just said about MSNBC

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Speaker 2: and the Morning Joe Show where they specifically said it's fun.

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Speaker 2: We played that clip from his advisor saying we need

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Speaker 2: more censorship and we need the media to call out dishonesty.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: So I do think one thing that will be really

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Speaker 3: interesting in this election that hasn't been the case in

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Speaker 3: a while, and that is they don't have full control

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Speaker 3: of the social media environment the way they had for

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Speaker 3: the previous I mean, I think you could take really

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Speaker 3: it all the way back to two thousand and eight, maybe,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's now that was Facebook, not

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Speaker 3: so much Twitter when a Twitter gets started two thousand

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Speaker 3: and nine, twenty ten. But Facebook was. But Facebook was

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Speaker 3: a monster in two thousand and eight, enormously influential in

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Speaker 3: the and Google. So between Facebook and Google, they had

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Speaker 3: total information dominance for Obama, for Obama for two terms.

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Speaker 3: And then twenty sixteen, people would say, well, how did

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Speaker 3: Trump win? Remember Trump was a Trump was a punchline

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Speaker 3: to the Democrat elites. They thought that they were leading

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Speaker 3: Hillary to certain victory by sharing his stuff. They turn

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Speaker 3: that around in twenty twenty, as we saw, and they

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Speaker 3: clamp down on it all and they suppress the laptop,

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Speaker 3: but they also suppress the truth about COVID, and they

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Speaker 3: also suppress questions about the election and all of that

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Speaker 3: right thanks to Elon. And I don't like sounding like

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Speaker 3: a fanboy about anybody, but I mean Elon is very impressive.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Elon. This time around, they won't be able

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Speaker 3: to just shut down things they don't like, the same way.

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Speaker 3: You won't have the collusion of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 3: which is owned by Facebook, TikTok all they able to

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Speaker 3: just say nope, sorry, that clip of Biden where he

682
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Speaker 3: looks like he's having a stroke is fake.

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Speaker 1: They won't be able to do that if a clip like.

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Speaker 3: That emerges because Twitter. The difference in Twitter and truth.

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Speaker 3: I love truth, I'm on truth, but Twitter has the

686
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Speaker 3: journals are all still on it. They said they were

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Speaker 3: going to leave, they didn't. It still is an ecosystem

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Speaker 3: that reaches is a critical mass where the story gets out.

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Speaker 3: And that's very different in this election cycle than the

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Speaker 3: last one where they, as we know, they just said no,

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Speaker 3: can't talk about that, can't share that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the odds are they take my

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Speaker 2: quote and share it in their story? What was your

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Speaker 2: did you already say what I just tweeted it out. Yeah,

695
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Speaker 2: I said that they want, you know, the video which

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Speaker 2: we talked about of Biden being lost. We talked about

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Speaker 2: how it's being covered in Italy. I said, Joe Biden

698
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Speaker 2: has dementia and isn't fit to be president. Pretending otherwise

699
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Speaker 2: is a lie. That's my official comment to NBC News

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Speaker 2: on their accusing of me of sharing misinformation.

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Speaker 3: Because because you you know, I mean, you know as

702
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Speaker 3: well as anybody how to play this game to win,

703
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: you can never give them a quote about what they

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Speaker 3: want you to say, because they're just I've learned those

705
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Speaker 3: I've gotten you know, Politico has done this to me

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Speaker 3: before and others where they.

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Speaker 1: Say, hey, do you want to way in the story.

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Speaker 3: You have to make sure that the sentence would make

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Speaker 3: no sense if they did anything to it other than

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Speaker 3: share the whole thing, and you have to go on

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Speaker 3: offense right away.

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Speaker 2: This is what Trump, which is exactly what I did.

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Speaker 2: I just tweeted it out. Their story isn't out. I

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Speaker 2: know you, but I'm saying you know everybody because if.

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Speaker 3: You say, well, you know, I really like to think,

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Speaker 3: then it's you know, disinformation spreader Clay Travis with some

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Speaker 3: weak sauce quote.

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Speaker 1: Here you go. That's why you've got to say.

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Speaker 3: I don't like speaking to regime media communists like you,

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Speaker 3: But if I am going to speak to commedi's like you,

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Speaker 3: let me just say that Joe Biden, basically, what you did,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is a joke and a Traves team.

723
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Speaker 1: We can all see it.

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Speaker 3: So you got to get your you know, that's that's

725
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Speaker 3: the way, because they will misrepresent whatever you say if

726
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Speaker 3: you try to stay on the within the guidelines they

727
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Speaker 3: give you. It's a trap, it's an ambush.

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Speaker 1: This is true.

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Speaker 3: And I used to do to CNN too. They'd ask

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Speaker 3: you a question. They'd always ask a question like, hey, like,

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Speaker 3: what do you think about all the white nationalists voting

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Speaker 3: for Trump? I mean, doesn't that make everybody on it

733
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Speaker 3: for trumpa white nationalists? If you start to answer it

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Speaker 3: with well, if you look at the numbers, there are

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Speaker 3: actually a lot of really nice no, no, no, you got

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Speaker 3: to say you're a bunch of line communists. This question

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Speaker 3: is trash.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, you got to start right.

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Speaker 2: You also have to I think, request the questions in

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Speaker 2: writing and then respond to them. In writing, which is

741
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Speaker 2: far better than if you talk to somebody for I mean,

742
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Speaker 2: I've had to explain this to people, and I understand

743
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Speaker 2: some of you maybe never even thought about this. But

744
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Speaker 2: the media, somebody will talk to you for thirty minutes

745
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Speaker 2: and they will take one sentence that you talk to

746
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Speaker 2: them about and take that quote completely out of context

747
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: because they've probably already got the story that they want

748
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Speaker 2: to write written and they don't want that to actually

749
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Speaker 2: be visible. They don't want you to be able to

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Speaker 2: influence what they're trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Should we play? Let me play this.

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Speaker 2: We were going to get into Caitlin Clark, but this

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Speaker 2: all kind of kind rolled in together. Uh, let me

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Speaker 2: hit Let me hit this From Caitlin Clark, she was

755
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Speaker 2: asked before her game yesterday, Hey, what do you think

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Speaker 2: about all the sexists and all of the homophobes and

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Speaker 2: all of the racist people who like you?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. Let's do we have the full

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Speaker 2: question as well as her answer? I hope we have both,

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Speaker 2: but here it is I.

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Speaker 6: Wonder from you at the same point, how do you

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Speaker 6: feel about people in using the young there in whatever

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Speaker 6: culture wars or whatever wars.

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Speaker 5: Or the flight how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 3: It's not something I can control, so you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't put too much thought in time into thinking about

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Speaker 3: things like that, And to be honest, I don't see

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Speaker 3: a lot of it.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, like the basketball is my.

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Speaker 1: Job, like everything on the outside, I can't control that.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not going to spend.

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Speaker 1: Time thinking about that.

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Speaker 5: You know. People can talk.

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Speaker 7: About what they want to talk.

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Speaker 3: About, seeing conversations about, you know, whatever it is.

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Speaker 7: But I think for myself, like, you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just here to play basketball.

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Speaker 5: I'm here to have fun.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to help our team win, you know my purposes.

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Speaker 1: I'm helping us do that.

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Speaker 7: But I don't pay a bunch of mind.

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Speaker 1: For all of that, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's one of the answers. The other one is

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Speaker 2: she specifically and will play that for you when we

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Speaker 2: come back, she specifically asked. Because that answer wasn't good enough,

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Speaker 2: she specifically asked about the fact that there are racist

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Speaker 2: and sexist and homophobic people according to that individual who

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Speaker 2: are who are fans of Caitlin Clark, and therefore that

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Speaker 2: should not be allowed to actually take place.

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Speaker 1: We'll play that when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Also, our buddy Jesse Kelly's going to be with us

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Speaker 2: in the final hour as well. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Joy now Buckets holding it up. For those of you

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Speaker 2: that is out and will and already is I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I think the last time we saw you was in

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Speaker 2: Park City. We had a meet up. It was awesome

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Speaker 5: Well, I han't.

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Speaker 7: I hadn't thought about it in those terms to tell

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Speaker 7: you just mentioned it.

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Speaker 5: So now I'm feeling suppression.

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Speaker 1: Now you're rattled in your head. I take it back.

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to get a sports psychologist for writing.

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Speaker 2: But it is kind of got to be amazing to

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Speaker 2: go from nothing to millions of people reading your books

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Speaker 2: every single time they come out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's always for me. It's always about learning,

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Speaker 7: it's always about getting better. In the military, I was

849
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Speaker 7: a student of warfare my whole life. I've been a

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Speaker 7: student of warfare, trying to prepare myself to be the

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Speaker 7: best leader and operator I could be in the steal

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Speaker 7: teams because I knew I wanted to do that from

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Speaker 7: a very early age. And then same thing with writing.

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Speaker 7: My mom's librarians. I grew up surrounded by books and

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Speaker 7: love of reading, so I got to experience all these

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Speaker 7: amazing authors without the filters that come maybe down the

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Speaker 7: line with age and other distractions and responsibilities.

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Speaker 5: So I was reading like Nelson de mill A, J.

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Speaker 7: Quinel, JC Pollock, Mark Olden and Tom Clancy, all these

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Speaker 7: guys that were masters of the craft and were really

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Speaker 7: my professors in the art of storytelling, so I had

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Speaker 7: this solid foundation and my process. The only way that

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Speaker 7: it has really changed over the years is that I

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Speaker 7: remain a student of the craft and I am focused

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Speaker 7: on getting better and better with each one. So I

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Speaker 7: want the next book to be better than Redsky Morning.

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Speaker 7: I want my next social post to add more value

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Speaker 7: to someone's lives than the one before it. The next blog,

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Speaker 7: same thing, next podcast, same So I'm always looking at

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Speaker 7: ways to add value to people's lives because they're trusting

871
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Speaker 7: me with time they're never getting back, and that's something

872
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 7: I take extremely seriously. So it's always about constant improvement

873
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 7: for me.

874
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: It's about how we try to approach radio too.

875
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: Jack, We're like, we are very blessed that people give

876
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: us the time that they do, and certainly you're very

877
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 3: blessed that people give.

878
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: You the time they do with reading these fantastic books.

879
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: Terminalist series has been a huge, huge success, stretching back

880
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: for years now, many books, and I'm wondering, you know

881
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: James Reese. Obviously, he's the central character once again in

882
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: this one, played memorably by Chris Pratt, one of my

883
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: favorite actors out there. In Hollywood in the Amazon version

884
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: of The Terminalist Season one. Can you give us any

885
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: is there any talk any scuttle but about Terminalists Season

886
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: two at some point or where do things stand?

887
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're you know, on Amazon.

888
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 7: I'll never share the exact numbers with us and Matt

889
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 7: data all the streaming services hold.

890
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 5: That data close hole.

891
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 7: But the indications are that it was quite successful, which

892
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: is why we have two shows in the works right now.

893
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 7: One a Prefuel Origin story that we're filming Budapest. Actually

894
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 7: just got back from Budapest. Was over there for about

895
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: two weeks filming, stopped by the Normandy d.

896
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: Day eightieth anniversary commemoration events.

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 7: For another two weeks with forty eight World War Two veterans.

898
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 7: Just got back two days ago, and I'll be heading

899
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 7: back to Budapest to continue filming the Prefuel Origin story

900
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 7: after book tour, which kicks off here this Monday.

901
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, that is awesome.

902
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: If you ever need two media radio consultants on set

903
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: in Budapest, you let us know, you know, if there's

904
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: a character that's in the media or something. You know,

905
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: we're very we're very cheap dates, you know, you just

906
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: bring us over there. And we'll we'll advise as best

907
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: we can.

908
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 7: Let's do it as you guys love it over there.

909
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 5: It's really interesting.

910
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 7: I was there before I went into the Navy, so

911
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 7: there in nineteen ninety four. It was my first time

912
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 7: back in nineteen ninety four. And it's amazing how much

913
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 7: money is in Budapest right now. You see Russian money,

914
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 7: you see Ukrainian money. That I'm getting is actually our

915
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 7: money in Chinese money.

916
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: And the hotel I.

917
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 7: Was staying at, I mean there are two Lamborghinis every day,

918
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 7: two Ferrari, two families. Porsches are diamond dozen. It is

919
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 7: absolutely incredible to see. And it's a very clean, safe city.

920
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: I had to do a long walk across the city

921
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 7: one night after a after viewing actually episode one at

922
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 7: a buddy's place across town. And I had previously, about

923
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 7: a month and a half two months earlier, walked acrossrom

924
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 7: New York because I thought that the Times Square cafe

925
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 7: was close to Times Square, and so I thought, I'll

926
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Speaker 7: just walk, you know, a couple of blocks to my hotel.

927
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Speaker 7: And it turns out that maybe at one point it was,

928
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 7: but now it's like it seems like it was across

929
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 7: the city, so I felt like I was on E

930
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Speaker 7: and E as I made my way back to my

931
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Speaker 7: hotel near the actual Times Square from the Times Square Cafe.

932
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 7: But it's an amazing city, remarkable how clean and safe

933
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 7: it is. So it'll probably make its way into a

934
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 7: future novel. But give us a lot to work with

935
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Speaker 7: as far as the locations as well for the show.

936
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Speaker 2: Jack, as a guy you mentioned who studied military history,

937
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: and obviously you served and I'm sure learned so much

938
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Speaker 2: of that as the process, what was it like to

939
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: be in Normandy for the eightieth anniversary of D Day?

940
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: And as someone who is a military historian, what did

941
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: walking that ground do for you in terms of crystallizing

942
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: what actually took place in that day, on that day

943
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: eighty years ago and all the days that followed it

944
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Speaker 2: as they advanced across France.

945
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Speaker 7: Yes, I meanished my fourth time there first when I

946
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 7: was young nineteen ninety four. I went back two thousand

947
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Speaker 7: and two and went back to the seventy eighth as

948
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 7: well seventy eighth anniversary commemoration events two years ago with

949
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 7: the Best Defense Foundation, which is a foundation that takes

950
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 7: World War Two veterans back to the battlefield on which

951
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 7: they fought. Did that with my daughter actually who is

952
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 7: she's eighteen now, so she was with me now for

953
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 7: this one on the Adioth and we had forty eight

954
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Speaker 7: World War Two veterans, all of them near at or

955
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Speaker 7: over one hundred years old. Sow you're volunteering, helping getting

956
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 7: them hit out of their wheelchairs to and from their rooms,

957
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 7: making sure that they're eating, making sure they're taking their

958
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 7: their medicine, making sure that getting them to all these

959
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 7: different events, because it's about two weeks of events. It's

960
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 7: not just June sixth, It is a full two week event.

961
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 7: Two weeks of events, and that's pretty tiring for someone

962
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 7: that's one hundred years old. But to be there and

963
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 7: to have my daughter actually talking to someone on Omaha

964
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Speaker 7: Beach who was first out of his landing craft that day,

965
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 7: and to ad him pointing out the machine gun positions

966
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 7: on the cliffs above and telling her that story, and

967
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 7: me watching it and listening, it's just something I can't

968
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 7: really put into words. But what was evident in the

969
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 7: seventy eighth and also for this that stands out to

970
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 7: me the most is how people of northern France have

971
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 7: not forgotten what was done for them for us by

972
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Speaker 7: the Americans. There are more American flags in northern France

973
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 7: during June than I've.

974
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 5: Ever seen on the fourth of July in the United States.

975
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 7: Eighty second airborn flags, hundred and first airborne flags. Everyone's

976
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 7: dressed up in period military uniforms, military jeeps from the

977
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 7: forties everywhere, old Indian and Harley David, the.

978
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 5: Motorcycles from that era.

979
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 7: It is absolutely incredible and you can see it in

980
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 7: their eyes. And it's not just the older people, it's

981
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 7: the young ones. And that's what stands out. They have

982
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 7: passed on this gratitude.

983
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: Down multi generational now.

984
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 7: And we went to a school visit so age let's

985
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 7: say five up to let's say.

986
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: Thirteen, and flags everywhere, and look.

987
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 7: They just want to touch these veterans, shake their hands,

988
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 7: look into the I state thank you. We have baseball

989
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 7: cards with the veterans pictures on it and their stats

990
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 7: on the back of what they did in World War

991
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 7: Two getting signatures.

992
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: These guys are totally treated like rock.

993
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 7: Stars over there, and it's I can't help but think

994
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 7: there would be a little different here in the United States.

995
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: That they showed up at a school here, but to

996
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 5: see that.

997
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 7: Wish every American could see what goes on in Normandy

998
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 7: in June. And after the last of you guys are

999
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 7: gone a few years, I bet they still passed those

1000
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: lessons on because they've done it since the forties and

1001
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 7: it is just as powerful now as it was when

1002
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 7: I saw it in the seventy eighth and they continue

1003
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 7: to pass this down through the generation.

1004
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: So that's pretty cool to see.

1005
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: We've got a number one wreck here for you right

1006
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: now for a book for today.

1007
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Isn't Father's Day coming up soon? Hey? There you go,

1008
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: jackcar right.

1009
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: My father in law is a big Jackcar reader, so

1010
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: I got to get all the good jackcar stuff and

1011
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: send it along because he reads them voraciously. Jackcar Red

1012
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: Sky Morning. I'm holding it up here, the latest in

1013
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: the James Reese thriller series of The Terminalists. It's phenomenal, obviously,

1014
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm so legitimly. I saw every episode of The Terminalists

1015
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 3: on Amazon.

1016
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: It was great. We talked about that.

1017
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: We saw you in Utah and the prequel story in

1018
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: Budapest sounds really cool and I've always wanted to go

1019
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: to Budapest just as it aside. You were talking about

1020
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: being in Normandy, obviously very moving, historically so so poignant

1021
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: and powerful. I gave Clay a recommendation. We all know

1022
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: Saving Private Ryan, amazing movie. We all know Banded Brothers,

1023
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: amazing TV series, right like, we put those aside just

1024
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: because I assume everybody listening has seen those, pretty much

1025
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: like I don't think anybody has missed either of those.

1026
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 3: But I said, for Clay, if you want something world

1027
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: War two that is a little less well known, well

1028
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: one that he hadn't seen and one that was less

1029
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: well known, I gave him Gosh, I'm forgetting Hacksaw Ridge,

1030
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: Hacksaw Ridge, and I gave him Hacksaw Ridge and Downfall

1031
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: in German in the original German language.

1032
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: What would you for this weekend?

1033
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: If somebody wanted to watch something World War two based

1034
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Jack while they're taking a break from reading Red Sky Morning,

1035
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: what would you tell them?

1036
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: What would be your wreck?

1037
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 7: I mean you got to go back and rewatch Band

1038
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 7: of Brothers with for your family, if your kids haven't

1039
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 7: seen it, watched Band of Brothers in its entirety with

1040
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 7: your family. That would be the number one recommendation. But

1041
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 7: it's really interesting is that when we think of out

1042
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 7: those movies. We think about Saving Private Ryan, we think

1043
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 7: about The Longest Day. If people haven't seen The Longest

1044
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 7: Day from the sixties in black and white, should go

1045
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 7: back and watch that. But because Tom Hanks, let's say,

1046
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 7: what was he when he made that Saving Private Ryan?

1047
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 7: Like forty five is.

1048
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: Somewhere in there same thing with Longest Day. John Wayne's

1049
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: in the Longest Day.

1050
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 7: But then you think about the ages of these guys

1051
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 7: who stormed the beaches at Normandy and that jumped out

1052
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 7: of the planes and came in the gliders in.

1053
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: June of nineteen forty four. They weren't those ages. They

1054
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 5: were young.

1055
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 7: They I was with guys this weekend or this past

1056
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: week that lied about their age to get in. They

1057
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: were fifteen years old. They lied to get into fight.

1058
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 7: You have kids storming the beaches at seventeen, eighteen, nineteen.

1059
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 5: Twenty years old.

1060
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 7: That's the age of the people that fought their way

1061
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 7: into France, across France into Germany, all the way to Berlin.

1062
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: And we tend to forget how.

1063
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 7: Young they were when we think about because of Hollywood,

1064
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 7: because of the power of popular culture, and in Tom

1065
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 7: Hanks and John Wayne and all these people that starred

1066
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 7: in these World War two films, they were a lot

1067
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 7: older typically than the kids who actually fought and won

1068
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 7: the war.

1069
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: No doubt. Well that's an amazing way to finish. One

1070
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: last question for you.

1071
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: You're talking about making the television shows, writing the books,

1072
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: getting better. How do you balance your time? Well, you

1073
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: got kids, You've got so many different obligations. Now success

1074
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: can bring more obligations and opportunities. What's advice for you

1075
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: to people out there trying to balance work life? They

1076
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: have different jobs, But what have you found to be

1077
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: useful with all the things that you've got going on

1078
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: right now?

1079
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 7: Well, I'm still working on it because there's so much

1080
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 7: going on. Toy are out here all the time, through kids, wife, dog,

1081
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 7: getting the kids, the camps, getting.

1082
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 5: Them to school. So typically what I need is uninterrupted

1083
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 5: time in order to write, which now.

1084
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 7: Happens when everyone else is asleep, so that happens between

1085
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 7: ten and night and three in the morning.

1086
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 5: So there's some things that are just.

1087
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: Going to fall off the list, like maybe nutrition, sleep,

1088
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 7: and working out, So those things need to be added

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Speaker 7: back in here eventually. But at this phase, it's been

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Speaker 7: all it's been a full on sprint. It's been obviously

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Speaker 7: putting all my heart and soul into every single word

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Speaker 7: that goes into any one of these books or a

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Speaker 7: blog post.

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Speaker 5: Or whatever I'm doing. So I'm still working on that.

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Speaker 7: So advice being is that prioritized next to you, same

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Speaker 7: thing as the battlefield. So I had to focus on

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Speaker 7: this book till it was the best it could possibly be.

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Speaker 7: Then got that to New York, switch over, start working

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Speaker 7: on scripts for the show. Focus on that, and then

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Speaker 7: we'll move over to the next thing. I have my

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Speaker 7: first non fiction coming out in the fall in the

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Speaker 7: nineteen eighty three Babu Barret's bombing, So that comes out

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Speaker 7: in September, and so there's a lot of things going on,

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Speaker 7: but I need to focus on.

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Speaker 5: One or the time.

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Speaker 7: This overlap in there, but I find that I need

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Speaker 7: to focus on one thing at the time and then

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Speaker 7: move to the next project rather than continue to juggle

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Speaker 7: a gazillion pace that once, because there's going to be

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Speaker 7: a good of things you.

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Speaker 5: Have to juggle.

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Speaker 7: You can't just focus on one thing in life. The neglect, family,

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Speaker 7: neglect everything. There's some things you have to but professionally

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Speaker 7: focusing on one, getting that the best, it can possibly

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Speaker 7: be before switching gears to.

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Speaker 2: The other Jack, keep it up. We love it and

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Speaker 2: know how busy you are. Appreciate the time, good luck

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Speaker 2: in the new stories coming out, and definitely that book

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Speaker 2: coming out in the fall nonfiction sounds fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. Thanks for everything you did with all

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Speaker 1: the veterans.

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Speaker 5: God, thanks so much. You get to take care.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Check ard new book, Red Sky at morning.

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Speaker 1: It's out.

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Speaker 2: Also, we want to tell you as we go into

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Speaker 2: break here final break of the week, on any given

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Speaker 2: day in the cities, towns, and villages in Israel, you're

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Speaker 2: likely to hear air raid sirens warning people of incoming missiles.

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Speaker 2: It's something we can't really imagine here in the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's a way of life for Israelis. So one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons we're partnering with the International Fellowship of Christians

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Speaker 2: and Jews the IFCJ. This is an organization going the

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Speaker 2: distance to show israelis they're not alone, that people will

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Speaker 2: halfway around the world care about them their safety. Join

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Speaker 2: us and stand with the IFCJ. This month, we're asking

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Speaker 2: you to sign a pledge which will be delivered to

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Speaker 2: the President of Israel to show Christians and Jews in

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Speaker 2: America are supporting them in their time of need. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be over in Israel early in August doing

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Speaker 2: the radio show there to help show that indication of

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Speaker 2: support as well. You can sign the pledge go to

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Speaker 2: supporti f c J dot org that supporti f c

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