1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: It is a day of great loss, but Queen Elizabeth 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the Second leaves a great legacy. Are hard to go 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to the people of the United Kingdom. She was one 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world, and I will 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: miss herself. Bloomberg Sound on Politics, Policy and Perspective from 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: DC's top name. Nobody can say that what happened on 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the fourth of July seventeen seventy six wasn't very much 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: a bilateral affair between US. Bloomberg found on with Joe 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio, The Queen has died, Hall hailed 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the King. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics as 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: the world mourns Elizabeth the Second, who outlived a dozen 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: US presidents. We'll talk about what this means for the 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: special relationship and what the new king might bring to 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom over the next hour. Joined by Bloomberg's 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Flavia Across Jackson, Tony Gardner, former US Ambassador to the 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: European Union under President Obama, and Virginia Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger, 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: a former CIA officer who serves on the House Foreign 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Affairs Committee. Also our panel Bloomberg Politics contributor Republican strategist 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Rick Davis back with us today, joined by Democratic strategist 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Johanna Masca from the Global Situation Room. The news of 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: the queen passing came during the White House Press briefing today. 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Kaarine John Pierre was told by 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: a reporter, Okay, so that's been confirmed. Okay family. Um, so, 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: as I said to earlier, Um, you know, our hearts 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: and our thoughts go to the family members of the queen. 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Statement from President Biden. A written statement came out a 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: couple of hours later, reads, quote in part, quote, Queen 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Elizabeth the Second was a stateswoman of unmatched dignity and 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: constancy who deepened the bedrock alliance between the United Kingdom 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: and the United States. She helped make our relationship special. Unquote. 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: We have not heard from the President yet, as he 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: canceled a speech because of this earlier in the day. 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be about COVID. What he has 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: scheduled to speak at a d n C fundraiser a 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: bit later on. We'll let you know if he uses 37 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: that as an opportunity. Since then, of course, tributes condolences 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: have been pouring in from around the world, around the 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: political sphere. You've been hearing about it all day on 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Prime Minister Liz Trusts, who met with the 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Queen just two days ago. With the passing of the 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: second Elizabethan Age, we usher in a new era in 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the magnificent history of our great country, exactly as her 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Majesty would have wished by saying the words, God Save 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the King, God Save the King. The question is what 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: will he choose for a name. That conversation later, the 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: Prime Minister went on to speak to the elaborate process 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: that's about to unfold in the difficult days ahead. We 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: will come together with our friends across the United Kingdom, 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: the Commonwealth and the world to celebrate her extraordinary lifetime 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: of service. Let's start here with Flavia Cross Jackson, the 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: managing editor for Washington's US government coverage here at Bloomberg. 53 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: She used to head Bloomberg's UK government coverage, and we're 54 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: lucky to have you with us today, Flavia. This is 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: by law now right. The next ten days are going 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: to be very carefully choreographed. Oh absolutely, to the absolute 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: to the absolute team now if them know, But but 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: you know to be sure it is Charles the third. Um, 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: let's trust herself. Let the cat out of the bag earlier. 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Maybe not intentionally or not, but we all we are 61 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: royal watches are our ears immediately picked up. It's like 62 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: hold on a sec. I thought there was going to 63 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: be a bit of confusion over or you know, he 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: was going to sort of it wasn't automatic that, yes, right, 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: so he's going with it, went with the obvious pick. 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well yes, but you know, of course, um, 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: there is a part to got to be followed there, 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: and you know, in theory it's his decision to make, 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it was, and it was his too 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to announce. Um on The speculation, of course, was that 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: he might have gone maybe with with the name of 72 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: his grandfather and gone with the George. Uh. You know, 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: the childs in English history did not have a good reputation. 74 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: The first one got his head lopped off. Um. But 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure he will be changing the course 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: of that as Charles the third. But yes, she did 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: get put out for the horse, and it was confirmed 78 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: by his own office. He automatically became king the moment 79 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: his mother died. Uh. And we have a great TikTok. Yes, 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: there's a great TikTok on the terminal that shows us 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen over the next ten days. Here 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Day ten though, state funeral at Westminster Abby. They've been 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: planning this for decades. FI. Yes, I mean at this 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: point the Guardian article that London Bridge must be the 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: most click thing in the metaverse. Um. It really takes 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: you right through to every built up of the way, 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: how the BBC was going to handle it, Um, the bank, holidays, 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. All needs to be run just right. Um. 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: But of course you know there there is a nation 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: in shalk. We are the country of the stiff upper lip, 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: and yet we're also very emotional people. Um as you 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: know the Diana think can attest to. And I think 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: it's going to take a while to digest this. It's 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: really going to reverberate, I think in the public psyche, 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: especially given the changes in the tumult that the country 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: has gone through, be at Brexit, be it now, uh 97 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, new Prime Minister. It's it's just a lot 98 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: to absorb and I would expect this to reverberate for 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: quite some time. Glavia, thank you for being with us. 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: I know you've had an incredibly busy day working in 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: the newsroom and glad to have your insights. Glavia Across Jackson, 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: managing editor here at Bloomberg in Washington, sharing insights as 103 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: we get things started here on Bloomberg sound on into 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: Flavia's point. I saw the statistics today. You probably heard 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 1: of this. One out of ten people was alive in 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: this country when Elizabeth became queen. That means most only 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: know a world in which there is a Queen Elizabeth. 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: The second, we extend the conversation now with the voice 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: of a US lawmaker. Congresswoman Abigail Spanburger, Democrat from Virginia, 110 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: is with us right now on Bloomberg sound on. We're 111 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: typically talking about policy like infrastructure or foreign policy. In 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: this case there is an overlap there, as the congresswoman 113 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: a former CIA officer UH now member of the House 114 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Foreign Affairs Committee. Congresswoman, it's great to have you with 115 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: us here. There's obviously a lot of protocol that's gonna 116 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: follow here, and a lot of history is going to unfold. 117 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: From a political standpoint, though, does this mean anything about 118 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: the US relationship with the UK? Well, I think the 119 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: UK has always been just such an incredible partner to 120 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: the United States. We have in the intelligence world what 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: is considered to be a very special relationship in terms 122 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: of our information sharing and our partnership. UM. But when 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: we're reflecting on the passing of the Queen, I think 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: that you know incredibly and notably the fact that after 125 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: September eleven she broke with tradition and had our Star 126 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: spangled banner played outside of Buckingham Palace as a tribute 127 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: to her partners, her friends, her American counterparts, as we 128 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: were in such a time of deep, deep hearting. I 129 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: think to semplifies the connection between our two countries. UM. 130 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Moving forward, I think that our relationships obviously are quite strong, 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: and our intelligence sharing, our our work together across the 132 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: whole myriad of challenges that our two nations face. UM. 133 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: But certainly the humanity UM and the person that the 134 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Queen brought to her role as as the British monarch, 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and certainly her many visits to the United States, including 136 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: to Virginia, m are ones that I think will be 137 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: treasured memories for many who had had the opportunity to participate. Yeah, 138 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: you worked with British counterparts both as a member of 139 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: the CIA and as a as a current member of 140 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Congress give us a sense of how closely tied the 141 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: intelligence relationship is specifically between our two countries. Well, so, 142 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: certainly the intelligence relationship is incredibly, incredibly UH connected. And 143 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: in fact I actually did not ever directly work with 144 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: British intelligence because anyone who was working undercover and could 145 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: not be whose name could not be given to the 146 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: our British counterparts. UH, if you were not declarable to 147 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the British, you did not meet with the British I 148 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: understand we did not. But that to answer your question, 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: that that speaks to the level of UM partnership, that 150 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: our intelligence officers were themselves were straightforward about who they 151 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: are UM, and we partnered on UH. You know, certainly 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: for the past number of decades are our global war 153 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: on terror we work UM close close partners certainly uh 154 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: in the onset with the bombing of the coal and 155 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: then the nine eleven attacks, but certainly the London bombing 156 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: UM and subsequent terrorist attacks there I think heightened the 157 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: resolve and the partnership that exists between British Intelligence and 158 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: c I A. The leadership of the two organizations are 159 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: in close contact and are CIA our nation. CIA officers 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: who work in London station or who work throughout the 161 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: world frequently and consistently partner with British until because the 162 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: quality of the information they have is is so strong, 163 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: and the trust and the partnerships between our two nations 164 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: is so paramount to our mutual security. My producers say, 165 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: you're being honest about that. But as we take a 166 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: look at the current political landscape in the UK, and 167 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: this is going to come before you as a member 168 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: of the Foreign Affairs Committee, there's a two day old 169 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: or something. I believe it's two day old Prime Minister 170 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: who amazingly was photographed with the Queen you know on Tuesday. 171 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess the three day old Prime Minister. Uh. There's 172 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: enormous change, as Flavia mentioned, as we consider Brexit, as 173 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: we consider uh the new prime Minister, and now of 174 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: course the passing of the Queen. Uh. Does this create 175 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: a concern for instability on any level? How does how 176 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: does the Committee deal with this? I think that it 177 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: speaks to the need for us to be as stable 178 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: and as GOODI partners to our friends in Parliament, to 179 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: our counterparts in the British government, certainly because they are 180 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: going through a time of great change with a new 181 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Prime minister. But but even just frankly speaking emotionally, the 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: fact that this permanent fixture in the life of so 183 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: many of our counterparts has passed to and there UM 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: looking at the next generation of leadership within the monarchy UM, 185 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: and certainly there will be changes that come with that. 186 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: But you know, when we look at even just the 187 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: test this past year and our direct work and partnership 188 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: with our British counterparts as it relates to UH support 189 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: UH ensuring support for the Ukrainian people standing up strong 190 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: against Russian incursion, UH support for Finland and Sweden to 191 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: join NATO. Are are our English counterparts. Our British counterparts 192 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: have been absolutely by our side. We've been by their side, 193 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: and so I think as as they go through what 194 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: continues to be a challenging, you know, a pass forward 195 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: as it relates particularly to bregit um with new leadership 196 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: at the home of Parliament and now at the monarchy UM, 197 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I think the Foreign Affairs Committee needs to continue to 198 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: UH demonstrate our respect for an appreciation for the very 199 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: close and very unique relationship that we have Uh, with 200 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: our our British counterparts. Have you heard from Speaker Pelosi's 201 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: office about any sort of attributes in the House or 202 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: or codel that might be traveling in ten days to 203 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: the funeral. So there's been a kind of an initial 204 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: statement put out by the Speaker of the House, uh, 205 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: certainly celebrating the life of the late queen, but there's 206 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: not any formal planning just yet, though I do expect 207 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: that um, that there will be a delegation of Americans 208 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: UH that will be a fulesome and robust as we 209 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: as as partners and as friends, um, and certainly those 210 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: who have the opportunity to meet with and work with 211 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: the Queen over the years or be welcome to the country, 212 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: we'll want to make sure that they're paying their full 213 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: respect to her. So we don't have details yet that 214 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I do expect that we will have the very appropriate 215 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: showing of respect, um, and and gratitude for for her leadership, 216 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: and and certainly be there to pay our respects to 217 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: our counterparts who are mourning the loss of their monarch. Yeah. Absolutely, 218 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate your joining us to talk about it a 219 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a diversion from our normal conversation with 220 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Abigail Spanburger, the Democrat from Virginia. As I mentioned, 221 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: House Foreign Affairs and a former member of the CIA, 222 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: we thought her perspective would be unique. Will assemble the 223 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: panel next as we go over the course of this 224 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: hour and go through some of these conversations. We also 225 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: want to bring you some important moments that the Queen 226 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: spent here in Washington. Remember outlived a dozen presidents. Guess 227 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: she met thirteen presidents, with the exception of every president 228 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: of the last seventy years, with the exception of President 229 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Johnson Lyndon Johnson. But we remember when she came to 230 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: meet with President Ford. It was the bi centennial seventy 231 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: six outside the White House, and boy was there a 232 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: crowd on the south lawn. President Ford, welcoming the Queen, 233 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: your Majesty, your Royal Highness, Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf 234 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: of the American people. I am delighted to welcome you 235 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: and your party to the United States and to the 236 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: White House, your first state visit to America. In nineteen 237 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: fifty seven, mark the three hundred and fiftieth anniversary of 238 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the settlement of Jamestown, the first permanent British colony in 239 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: this new land. You honor us again by coming to 240 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: share our bicentennial observance. It's a very formal situation. There 241 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: was a military presence. The Queen spoke as well. For 242 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: nearly one hundred and seventy years there was a formal 243 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: constitutional link between your declaration of independence. Broke that link, 244 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: but it did not for long break our friendship spent 245 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the day in Washington, and by the State dinner that night, 246 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't so formal. In fact, we started to see, well, 247 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: it was plenty formal, but we started to see some humor, 248 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: something that she showed a lot more over the years 249 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, d c. And as she made her toast 250 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: to President Ford, she owned the room. We are deeply 251 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: grateful for having been invited to visit the United States 252 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: in the main week of your bi centenary. It was 253 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: a generous gesture and apposite. After all, nobody can say 254 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: that what happened on the fourth of July seventy six 255 00:15:53,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: wasn't very much a bilateral affair between us. We indeed 256 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: happy to accept your invitation. Seemed to loosen up the room, 257 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: and she would use that over the years in visits 258 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: here as will play for you this hour. I'm Joe, 259 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: Matthew and Washington. Welcome to a special edition of Bloomberg 260 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Sound On, exclusively on Bloomberg Radio. As we assemble our panel, 261 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Rick Davis is back with US Republican UH strategist and 262 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor, joined today by Democratic strategist Johanna Masca 263 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: of the Global Situation Room. Thanks to both of you 264 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: for being here. Rick. This is a pretty big development 265 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: to happen in the same week that this country gets 266 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: a new prime minister. It's not often that we see 267 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: history written in real time like this. Yeah, that's right, Joe. 268 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean one of the things that was most striking 269 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: is when the prime minister incoming, you know, they get 270 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: appointed basically by the Queen and uh, she traveled outlets 271 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: to the castle and Laura and and the picture that 272 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: was released look a very vibrant queen standing on her own, 273 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: just looking great. And I remember looking at them. Oh, 274 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad this was able to happen the way 275 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: it did. I mean, she's been ill, she hasn't been 276 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: very mobile and uh, and the fact that she was 277 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: able to install this new ambassador. This new Prime Minister 278 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: was just fantastic. It never even occurred to me that 279 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: this might be the last picture we see of her. Yeah, 280 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: and you know, look, it was something that we saw 281 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: coming today, Johanna. There were reports this morning when once 282 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: the statement came out from Buckingham Palace that she was ill, 283 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: that was considered, you know, that her health was of 284 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: grave concern. That was considered very unusual and obviously something 285 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: was was happening for real. The family members were on 286 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: their way. But to finally hear that news break, my goodness. 287 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: To think of how many people don't understand or know 288 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: a world without Queen Elizabeth the second is kind of remarkable, 289 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: not only on a political level, but just on a 290 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: popular level. Here this is somebody who was on the 291 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: front page of not just the Washington Post but People magazine. 292 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: She was toted in movies. It's it's something that goes 293 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: to the core, absolutely, and it is it's an end 294 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: of an era. I mean, I think all of all 295 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: of us are among the people who haven't lived through 296 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: a world in um in which we don't have Queen Elizabeth. 297 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I I traveled to um Buckingham Palace was President Obama 298 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: now eleven years ago and had the um incredible fortune 299 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: to meet the Queen and see her. She is um. 300 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: She was very small in stature, but my god, what 301 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: a life, what she has lived. I think though this 302 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: is um. You know, this was expected and we can't 303 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: live forever. And I think all of us and people 304 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: in Washington need to remember that and um. And when 305 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: she was the receiver of the baton, a lot of 306 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: people said she wasn't ready and that she wouldn't be 307 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: able to um uh lead the country with the grace 308 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: that she has. But this passing of the baton is 309 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: coming and it's um. It is significant in Britain. I 310 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: think it's also going to be significant in the US. 311 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: And I know we don't have royalty, but we have 312 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people who have been in these positions 313 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: of power for almost the duration of Queen Elizabeth's reign, 314 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: almost being the key word there she was. She was 315 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: a big fan of the Obama's You were you were 316 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: there for this president. I'm delighted to welcome you and 317 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: this is Obama to London. Prince Philip, and I are 318 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: so glad that you were visiting the United Kingdom. Again. 319 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: We remember the image of the two daughters getting a 320 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: carriage ride, and some of the sort of very family 321 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: oriented stuff going on there. But there was also the protocol, Johanna, 322 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: and you were there for that too, right the toast, 323 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: My god, it was like an international incident, the touch um. 324 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: If people don't remember this, Barack Obama, the President of 325 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: the United States, decides to break protocol and toast the 326 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: queen before and as it turned out, during the anthem 327 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: playing ladies and gentlemen, please stand with me and raise 328 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: your glasses as I propose a toast, I'd be so 329 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: lost if I had to do this for a living. 330 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: This is the way you had, It's the right way 331 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: to the queen. Okay. So he goes into the totality 332 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: of the special relationship God, the music between our people's 333 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: boy and in the words of Shakespeare, to this blessed 334 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: plot earth. What can the president do this realm but 335 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: just stop and the music comes up? Johannah, How how 336 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: tough was that to deal with that day? Honestly though, 337 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: I think, um, Americans aren't always as protocol oriented, and 338 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: so I think I think our friends um in across 339 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: the pond are well aware of that was the staff 340 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: outrage though, and the Queen was was endeared like, well 341 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: how did what was the real reaction? That is that 342 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: is the true is there's a lot of protocol staff, 343 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: that's all. It's this is protocol. That's the protocol. And 344 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: that's with a lot of countries. And often the leaders 345 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: themselves are the ones who are saying it's okay, let's 346 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, actually get to know each other and um 347 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think it was a very 348 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: special relationship. I think she um my gosh again, the history, 349 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: the ability that she has to tell to give lessons 350 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: of her own history. I mean, it's incredible. But I 351 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: think um, as you know that steady hand comes to close. 352 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: That is also the political uh dynamics are the thing 353 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: that frightened me the most for the new king number one. 354 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think a number of US Americans 355 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: are going to have the same reverence for a king 356 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: that we have seen played out on television as the 357 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: person who divorced the mom of his son's the philanderer 358 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: who probably should have always married Camilla um and and 359 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: now you know, his son has been in the US 360 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and has kind of gotten involved in the US political system. 361 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: And I can see this being so many red flags 362 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: because we are not in a place of political stability. 363 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: I know, Rick, you and I have been talking about this, 364 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: but we have seen massive, you know, polarity in our country. 365 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: Well what do you think about this before you had 366 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: another layer here? I mean that that is pretty that's 367 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: a tough My god. I don't know if he'll be 368 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: called the philanderer when he walks into the room here, 369 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: But the king, how do you deal with the king's 370 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: sort of image rebuilding? Is it that does he introduce 371 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: reintroduce himself like a politician? Rick? You know it's it 372 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: is a moment for a reset, right, And you don't 373 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: get these opportunities very often. This has been seventy years 374 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: and uh and and look at the tradition she has upheld, right, 375 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody has a clue what her political views are. Nobody. 376 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: She's got the best folker face on the face of 377 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: the earth, and and so and and that has allowed 378 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: political life in Great Britain to happen around her without 379 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: affecting her one way or the other. And I think 380 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: that kind of stability is something that, frankly, that we 381 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: lack right here in the United States. There's no central 382 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: authority that we can look to for sort of you know, really, 383 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: do we really think this is as off the rails 384 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: as we were saying? So the question is how will 385 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: Charles act? Right? And and and and she was able 386 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: to be the stoic reminder of the stiff upper lip 387 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: all the while her children had all these kinds of issues, right. 388 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this wasn't just Charles's act. They all got 389 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: divorced at one point in time, and and and, which 390 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: was very unusual. So it's it's kind of neat to 391 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: see this moment where we're all gonna be on the 392 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: edge of like, how's Charles gonna do this? He's gonna 393 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: be like her? Is he gonna is he gonna get 394 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: activists on issues? He's certainly been that way up until now. 395 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: How will the how will becoming king affect him? Do you? 396 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Does he reinvent this? In and sort of from a 397 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: media optics standpoint, Johanna, are we gonna see uh An 398 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: unveilingly like we have not before? I mean, we're at 399 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: the point now where number ten Downing Street has like 400 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: the best crane shot I've ever seen in my life. 401 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: When things are happening, you know, and in this case. 402 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: This week we saw the Prime Minister stride up to 403 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: the podium and it's like a Hollywood movie. How does 404 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: he use the media to his benefit? They're they're very 405 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: good at protocol, but you can't change who a person is. 406 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: And I um, and I think, you know, when it 407 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: comes to this king, he was present at some of 408 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: these events and I found him to be a little awkward, 409 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know that that's going to change. And 410 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: so you know, I think trying to reinvent himself at 411 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: this age is also kind of it's all to ask, um, 412 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: But I think he's going to have to navigate the 413 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: dynamics of an America that's kind of um shifting politically, 414 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: with a son who's already left to move to the 415 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: US and who is involved in the political syste them 416 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: and you know, winning, winning, winning the hearts and minds 417 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: of his own people, and you know abroad is going 418 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: to be a tall challenge. So I am not terrifically 419 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: optimistic at the space that the Royals, and maybe it's 420 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm not a Royalist. I mean, my my my grandmother 421 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: was a war bribe from England and and shows America 422 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: for many reasons. But but at the same time, I 423 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: do think that they have had an important role in 424 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Europe really as a steady hand in Europe, and Europe 425 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: is already very unsure of what the US is doing 426 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: with our pivot to Asia and kind of are changing demographics. 427 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: And so I think it's probably even for the whole 428 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: of Europe um going to be a significant shift if 429 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: they can't rely on, you know, that monarch to be 430 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of that steady hand. So it'll be interesting to 431 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: see who fills that. Boy, it absolutely will, does it? Uh? 432 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Does it require a US visit, a White House visit 433 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: as soon as possible? Rick, or you know King Charles 434 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: at the White House? Does he go to a Nats game? 435 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: And like Ben's chili bowl? How does that trip work? Yeah, 436 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: that's a tough tall order for a new king. I think, 437 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, look look at the history, right, it all 438 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: starts at home. Um, So I think the first time 439 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: we're going to see him and and and sort of 440 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: his impact on a global stage is going to be 441 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: his relationship in building the new relationship as king with 442 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: his own people, right, and and so how does Britain 443 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: react to him? As Joanne was saying, you know, there's 444 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: a whole relationship building exercise. It's not without its history 445 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: there uh. And then the Commonwealth is a big deal 446 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: to the to the to the royals in Britain. Right 447 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: that one of the great successes of the Queen was 448 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: building the Commonwealth from seven countries to we're fifty, I think, 449 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't be surprised that if he's gonna 450 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: go anywhere, he's gonna go visit some of those Commonwealth 451 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: countries that they've invested so heavily in as a family 452 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: right has been great for public diplomacy for the UK, 453 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: but it's also been a family project and I can't 454 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: imagine him sort of ignoring that. And I would say 455 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: to um, uh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't suggest that that 456 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: between now and certainly November of this year, when there's 457 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: an election in the United States, that any royal shows 458 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: up in New York or Washington or l A. Because 459 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you can't help but be dragged into the politics. And 460 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: so they're smart, They're gonna look at this and say, Yeah, 461 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: there's other times that that the King is gonna want 462 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: to visit America, and this is not one of them. 463 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: This is a great panel Rick Davis with us along 464 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: with Johanna Masca from the Global Situation Room, as will 465 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: continue our conversation throughout the hour here and also bringing 466 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: you back to some of the more uh interesting moments 467 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: or significant moments or funny moments in some cases that 468 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: the Queen spent here in the nation's capital with gosh 469 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: a dozen presidents and as it turned out, a joint 470 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: session of Congress, how Speaker's Tom Folly, Members of the Congress. 471 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: It is my great privilege and I deem it a 472 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: high honor and personal pleasure to present to you her 473 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Majesty Elizabeth the second big deal obviously, the Queen and 474 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: the Speaker's rostrum. By the way, that standing ovation went 475 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: on for a long time. And this was the day after, 476 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: I believe, the day after huh the hat incident at 477 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the White House. In a classic moment, as I mentioned, 478 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: her use of humor worked for her repeatedly in Washington, 479 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: d C. And this brings us back to an event 480 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: at the White House that led to a Washington Post 481 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: headline Britain's hat of state, a major breach of protocol 482 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: at the White House, the Bush White House, As the 483 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Queen went up to the podium. It had not been 484 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: lowered for her height, and her purple and white hat 485 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: could be seen only above the microphones when the five 486 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: foot four queen stood to speak, So this became a 487 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: big story. The President of the United States had to apologize. 488 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: Chief of Protocol got in trouble, and she used it 489 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: to her advantage as she spoke the first words here 490 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: to the Joint Session of Congress the next day, I 491 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: do hope you can see me today from where you are, 492 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: and got a whole other standing ovation out and had 493 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: the room in the palm of her hand. I'm Joe 494 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: Matthew and Washington. Thanks for joining us on Bloomberg Sound On, 495 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: the fastest hour in politics. We have a conversation ahead 496 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: with the former US Ambassador to the European Union, Tony Gardner, 497 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: will be with us. I appreciate your being with us 498 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Sound On. I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. Still 499 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: waiting for formal details of the queen's funeral yet to 500 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: be announced. That's expected tomorrow as now the UK enters 501 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: a ten day morning period. You might have heard this 502 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: is uh. This is all laid out in law. No 503 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: government announcements are made flags at half masted. Of course, 504 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: King Charles already proclaimed King Charles. The third normal business 505 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: on the following weekday of Parliament is suspended and peas 506 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: paid tribute to the new monarchs and condolences. They will 507 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: then swear an oath of allegiance to the new king. Later, 508 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: the Queen's coffin, returned to London, will arrive at Westminster 509 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Hall for a formal lying in state on day five. 510 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Proceedings continue as I mentioned for ten days, upon which 511 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: the state funeral at Westminster Abbey will take place. It 512 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: will be a national holiday, the markets will be posed. 513 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to bring in Tony Gardner, senior advisor 514 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: at the Brunswick Group but former US Ambassador to the 515 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: European Union during the Obama administration. It's great to have 516 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: you with us, ambassador, your insights today on on what 517 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: this means for Europe. This is something we were talking 518 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: about a bit earlier here in the relationship the United 519 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Kingdom has with Europe at this critical time with the 520 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. Well, thanks for having me. Look, she 521 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: will be remembered and she will be mourned by many, 522 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: many people, even those who are not monarchists. And one 523 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons is that she was very wise and 524 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: understanding that it's not always what one says that matters, 525 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: it's what one doesn't say. She was respectful the limits 526 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: of her office, but she understood also that you could 527 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: she could exercise significant influence by being a symbol, by 528 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: being a UM as steady hand at moments that were 529 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: pretty turbulent, a model of public service and I think 530 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: you know that that resonates especially today quite frankly, with 531 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people who wish that more of our 532 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: public servants were to follow her the role. I would 533 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: also say that she played a significant role in expanding 534 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: influence of the UK, including through the role of the Commonwealth, 535 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: and very importantly, you know, playing a role in keeping 536 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: the UK together. And I say it because Brexit has 537 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: arguably weakened the glue to some extent that keeps the 538 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: United king together of Scotland and Great Britain in Wales 539 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: and then other Ireland, that this is going to be 540 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: important going forward. UM and a model of stoicism because 541 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, she went through some pretty difficult times 542 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: on a personal level, and I think people connect to 543 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: her because of that. So what change will the new 544 00:32:53,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: king bring very hard to tell. I'm not well place 545 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to say that. I think he will try to um 546 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: is it about Well. I think he will try to 547 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: respect the something of the recipe of what made her 548 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: a success, and I think it will be it may 549 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: be difficult because uh, he is a person with the 550 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: views and by the way, I think he's underestimated. He 551 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: said things and believe things well before they were um 552 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: widely believed or said. I'm thinking of certainly the environment 553 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: well before his time, well before his time. But you 554 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: know what, what made her his mother's queen success is 555 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: often buy as I said, being a role model. So 556 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be obviously difficult role and the 557 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: one that he will have to define in a different way. 558 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: How does the fact that we have a new prime 559 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: minister just this week, just a couple of days old, 560 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: now complicate the situation, this massive transition that's coming for 561 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: the UK. Well, indeed, so there's a lot of change 562 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: happening all the same time. I mean the fact that 563 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: the longest serving monarch is now dead, is now a 564 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: new prime minister, and the UK is facing a whole 565 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: range of really serious issues, economic issues that are serious, 566 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: compounded by the war in Ukraine, but also sitting in 567 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: from me by brexit. Um. And of course the world 568 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: economy is isn't difficulty too, but the UK faces some 569 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: pretty big challenges. So all of this is happening in 570 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: a moment of enormous change. So I can tell you 571 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: I've lived in the UK for twenty two years now, 572 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: the last twenty two years, and this moment feels like 573 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: not only changing the garden new and a new chapter, 574 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: but we're sailing into some pretty turbulent water. Is a 575 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: difficult winter, you know, high energy prices strikes um, it's difficult. 576 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: Having a lot of new faces will not help. In 577 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: other words, indeed at least makes it more of a challenge. 578 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Are you struck, as an American living there by the 579 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: level of emotion the emotional response that we're hearing from 580 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: so many people living in the UK. No, I'm not, 581 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised because she was quite unique, I think, 582 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: in appealing to people of every type of every social category, 583 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: of every type of belief, even those I mentioned who 584 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: are not monarchists, who you know, it's impossible not to 585 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: have enormous respect for her clear sense of duty, her 586 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: devotion to the cause and what she did for the country. 587 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: Woman had to be extremely churlish not to to to 588 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: say that. Um So, I'm not surprised, but the outpouring 589 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: of sympathies at this time. I really appreciate your time 590 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: with us. Former U s Ambassador to the European Union 591 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: in the Obama administration, Tony Gardner, now senior adviser at 592 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: Brunswick Group, sharing some I think important insights as part 593 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: of our hour here on Bloomberg sound On. As we 594 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: prepare to reassemble the panel, I'll remind you as well, 595 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: this queen was a big fan of American democracy and 596 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: made that clear in any number of speeches, including the 597 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: one I referenced before a joint Session of Congress in 598 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: the concept so simply described by Abraham Lincoln as government 599 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: by the people, of the people for the people is 600 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: fundamental to our two nations. Your Congress and our Parliament 601 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: are the twin pillars of our civilizations and the chief 602 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: among the many treasures that we have inherited from our predecessors. 603 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: One of many moments we're sharing with you this hour 604 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. As we reassembled the panel, Rick Davis 605 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: is with us from New York. Bloomberg Politics contributed Republican 606 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: strategists along with Democratic strategist Joanna Mascus, EO of the 607 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Global Situation Room. Uh. The protocol that's about to follow here, 608 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Uh is pretty heavy duty, Johanna, How do you deal 609 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: with inside the White House here, deciding, for instance, who 610 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: goes to the funeral and and everything that comes with it. Yeah, 611 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: it's it takes. I mean, obviously they've been planning this 612 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: for a very long time. And and the truth is 613 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: they already know, of course, which invitations are extended to 614 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: all the different world leaders. Um and uh. And I 615 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: guess the interesting thing is you have family dynamics that 616 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: are always kind of the um wrench in it. It's 617 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: a wrench when you know there's a child who's out 618 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: of wedlock, who's a child of a president, or it's 619 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: a you know what, it's a an issue if it's 620 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: a child that's a little bit of strange. So Um, 621 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: those protocol things are always dealt with very delicately. But 622 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: to your point, they're just pulling the trigger on a 623 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: plan that's already been drawn up. Right, this this was 624 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: should be they should Yeah, absolutely, the question is what's 625 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: the current relationship between a father and son. You don't 626 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: know that, right, Like what is I mean obviously you 627 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: know you you have to balance all of those details, 628 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: and so there may be some wrenches thrown in at 629 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: the last moment, especially if the family members themselves throw 630 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: in wrenches. You've taken Rick by her repeated uh endorsements 631 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: of the democratic system, the American democratic system. It's kind 632 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: of it's interesting she could say things that a politician 633 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: could not say on her visits here. Yeah, I think 634 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: that she's got historical standing, right and um, and I 635 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: think she can actually, um give us the best of 636 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: what we are from a distance. I mean, it almost 637 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: takes your neighbor to tell you how good your lawn looks. 638 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're just seeing the weeds and uh. And 639 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: so I think that's a really important role for people 640 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: like the queen. Over this period of time, she held 641 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: some standing because of her longevity that um that you 642 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: don't get the first two weeks you're in that post. 643 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: So I think that it's one of those things where 644 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: sometimes we're tougher on ourselves than others tend to be 645 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: in and and her fascination with the American experiment, especially 646 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: in democracy, is something that that I think we could 647 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: we could really remember right now as a very positive 648 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: that she saw us as the best of what we are, 649 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: not not sometimes making that sausage. It's really well put. 650 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: Rick she was. She loved telling the story about John 651 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: adams first visit back to the UK in the summer 652 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: of seventeen, John Adams, America's first envoid to the courtis 653 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: and James Paigees first call on King George the Third, 654 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: my ancestor said to him, in well known words which 655 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: are worth repeating, I was the last man in the 656 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: Kingdom to consent to the separation. But the separation having 657 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: been made, I have always said, as I say now, 658 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: that I would be the first to meet the friendship 659 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: of the United States as an independent power. So why 660 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: she's still popular here in America, Joanna in a way 661 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: that a prime minister probably could not be that and 662 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: just her grace, I mean truly she I think that 663 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: that is when she was first coming to power, she 664 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't have a long history, so there wasn't you know, 665 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: you couldn't kind of cast her one way or another. 666 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: And over the course of her leadership she really maintained 667 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: that um that composure that I think was really important. 668 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, certainly, obviously Americans we love 669 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: when people love us because we love ourselves so much. 670 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: We love America. So when she, you know, comes over 671 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: and flatters us about America, a hundred percent on board. 672 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: But I think it was more than that. I think 673 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: there are so many people who saw her grace through 674 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: some of the most challenging times as um as something 675 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: that to the point earlier, you know, we want from 676 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: some of our politics, if we could have some more 677 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: grace for each other, maybe it would be a little 678 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: bit better. Does this make of the new prime minister's 679 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: job more difficult or easier? Since hey, you know, it's 680 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of like the first year of school, everybody's new, 681 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: we we're all getting to know each other. Well, it 682 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: certainly adds a lot of different logistics. Right, there are 683 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: things that this Prime Minister uh is going to have 684 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: to do in the next two weeks that wasn't on 685 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: the original stocket, right, I mean, so her schedule will 686 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: change dramatically, But it is an opportunity to sort of 687 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: get into the job in a very soft way when 688 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: everyone's looking in a different direction, right, and they should 689 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: be right. They're going to remember the queen and her 690 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: accomplishments and her impact just the way we're talking about it. 691 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: That's going to go on for a month or so, 692 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: and and and that's not a bad way to sort 693 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: of get a nice walking start. Otherwise she's thrown into 694 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: the pile of political debates on the economy, on on Brexitch, 695 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: on on COVID. I mean, just the mass of issues 696 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: that are going to hit a new prime minister in 697 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: a situation where the UK finds itself in today is overwhelming. 698 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: And maybe this is actually a little chance to get 699 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: and get to know your your cabinet a little bit better. 700 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: By the time all this clears, you know, she should 701 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: be pretty well organized. Makes a lot of sense. Rick 702 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,959 Speaker 1: Davis and Joanna Maasca are with us for the course 703 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: of the hour our panel on this special edition of 704 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On. I'm Joe, Matthew and Washington. This is 705 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On a special edition as we take a 706 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: look at everything that we've learned in just the last 707 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: couple of hours since the passing of Queen Elizabeth the Second. 708 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: A statement issued from the White House that we are 709 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: waiting to hear remarks from President Biden. And we're gonna 710 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: be talking momentarily with David Smith, the Washington d C 711 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: Bureau Chief at the Guardian, of course as well, bringing 712 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: you back to some significant moments that the Queen spent 713 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. Over the course of thirteen administrations, 714 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: and we suspect that the King will continue that trend 715 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: in that tradition by coming here to meet with President Biden. 716 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: Of course, so many presidents spent time with the Queen 717 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: and one of the best relationships that she really ever 718 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: formed was with Ronald Reagan, if you remember them riding 719 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: horses together when he and Nancy went to spend the 720 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: night at Windsor Castle. They of course hosted the Queen 721 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: at the White House as well. Ladies and gentlemen, happily, 722 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm conscious of the honor that is ours tonight. I 723 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: ask you to join me in a toast to her 724 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: majesty the Queen. She had, of course great words for 725 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: him as well, and the Reagans hosted the Queen and 726 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: Philip at their ranch in California. Why don't we bring 727 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: the panel back in. Rick Davis is with us here, 728 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: of course, Republican strategist and Bloomberg Politics contributor, joined today 729 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: by Johanna Mascot, Democratic strategist and CEO of the Global 730 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: Situation Room, where actually had a chance to meet the 731 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: Queen when she was traveling with the Obama administration. Johanna, 732 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: is that like a big greening line or do you 733 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: actually get a chance to have a quick word with 734 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: the queen when you're in an environment like that? No, No, 735 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: it was she was actually waiting in protocol order hasn't 736 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: Obama was coming up to the um uh in the 737 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: car and so it was really just standing there talking 738 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: very briefly before they you know, did the handshake in 739 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: front of all of the press and so um know 740 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: it is you. You You In my job, I got to 741 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall and see all of 742 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: this and just imagining her, you know, with all of 743 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: this protocol around her for the many years of her life, 744 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean truly from when she was a child in 745 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: her twenties. Um beyond uh it you see someone and 746 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: you see that responsibility that she took so seriously up 747 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: close and it's um it must have been an incredible 748 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: life but also a very difficult life. No, doubt about it, 749 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: that's for sure. When you consider the idea of the 750 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: new king uh making his first speech here, is this 751 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: like preparing a political address in the United States, Rick, 752 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: or is this a very different job? Well, some of 753 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: us is driven by protocol. Um. You know, there's been 754 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: thousands of years of practice, you know, and handing off uh, 755 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: these kinds of titles and and what you go through. 756 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: And it's not the time to shake something up, right 757 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: when when you've given a speech in the United States 758 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: it's political, you're trying to make press. Um. Uh. In 759 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: a situation like this, you're trying to avoid making press 760 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: because that means you've messed up and uh. And so 761 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: this is ceremonial, right, This is not meant to convey um, 762 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: you know, a point of view other than the fact 763 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: that you have this monarchy. You have these royals. They 764 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: serve a purpose within the UK and and and and 765 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: and this is what they're supposed to do, right, They're 766 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: supposed to do these you know, jubilees in a way 767 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: that people all around the world want to see them 768 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: and come to their country and visit. I mean, it's 769 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: the greatest chamber of commerce ever created by man. You know, 770 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: and and and so of course we're gonna be riveted 771 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: because everyone is interested in the pomp um circumstance. Uh. 772 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: It's it's things that storybooks are made of, and yet 773 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: this is in real life. So the hope is that 774 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: this goes without any kind of problems, and you know, 775 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: everything is smooth and easy, and it's dramatic and beautiful, 776 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: and it helps pull the country and maybe the other 777 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: parts of the world together for a moment um and 778 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: uh in sort of common grief and expectation of a 779 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: new king. So I wouldn't I don't think we want 780 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: to overthink it as as if it's going to have 781 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: an immediate impact on policy. I mean, obviously the new king, 782 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: King Charles the Third, has points of view on all 783 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: range of issues, including the climate and architecture. And you know, 784 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: will he make these things a part of his mandate 785 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: or his uh his his his kingship. Who knows? Um 786 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: all that we have to wait and see. When we 787 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: consider the planning for the funeral of Joanna, this is 788 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 1: going to be unheralded security I presume right with this, 789 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: this will be the largest collection of world leaders. Well, 790 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: I guess outside of of of A G twenty. Oh absolutely, 791 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: I mean and obviously the you can do this, UM. 792 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: I remember when we were planning for funerals and what 793 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: President Obama was doing. We were all waiting. UM. Obviously 794 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: Nelson Mandela's health was going downhill and we all knew 795 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: that and UM. And if you look at that, you 796 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: know it should have had some of the best security 797 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: in the world and yet UM, and there were some 798 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: so many issues there. I don't think you're going to 799 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: have the same problem in the UK, UM. But I 800 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: do think that when they're they're planning for this, they're obviously, 801 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, planning as much as it is a funeral, 802 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: it's about Britain. It's about their um continued strength as 803 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: a nation, and so they're going to be trying to UM, 804 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, make sure that everyone is seeing that in 805 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: every possible way, with music and with UM you know, 806 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: ceremony and UM and with UH the guards and everything 807 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: that you can expect out of out of the Brits 808 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: and UM. So I'm sure that it will be an 809 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: incredible show. I guess the question is, you know, for 810 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: me looking at this, UM, I think there's a lot 811 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: of worry in the US about the change world order 812 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: and whether there could be a change world order. I mean, 813 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: we're already worried about a China that's um showing itself 814 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: as a rival to the US and to you know, 815 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 1: all of these dynamics, and so I think there's going 816 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: to be a lot of um also, uh, a little 817 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: bit of a fear of what this means for our future. UM. 818 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: And I think that actually President Trump has tapped into 819 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: some of that fear. And I think we've got to 820 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: be very careful. I'm going to be interested to see 821 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: what Republicans and Democrats say about this. I mean, obviously 822 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't put too much in the monarch. Obviously, 823 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth was an incredible monarch, but um, the Prime 824 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,919 Speaker 1: Minister is very important. And I actually think, to Rick's point, 825 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: this is a perfect opportunity for her to come in 826 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: and um and really get to lead the country, because 827 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would have wanted a Boris Johnson 828 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: on his way out overseeing this. So much better to 829 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: have a fresh start in the UK and UM, this 830 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: can be that sure, this this funeral is going to 831 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: be like a NATO meeting. Rick, when you consider who's 832 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: going to be on the invite list, but there could 833 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: be some careful omissions depending on your relationship. For instance, 834 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: and I think to Joanna's point here with Russia and China, 835 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: sure I wouldn't imagine, even though it might be part 836 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: of the protocol that that Vladimir Putin is going to 837 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: get an invite, you know, to the funeral. Well, I 838 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: hope not. Uh. And he was honored with a dinner 839 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: at Buckingham Palace, that's right. A couple of years ago 840 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: have been that that bizarre no, and uh, but time 841 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: changes everything and this time is very different than than 842 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: at that point in time. So um, these will be 843 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: the thing as they have to struggle with, right. And 844 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: obviously you know that the relationship with China is even 845 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: more complex because it's a big trading partner. You know, 846 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 1: there's competition for them. And yet you know, we knew 847 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: know that some of that competition, uh, you know is dangerous. 848 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: It's it could affect the world order, as John I mentioned, 849 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, and and and and by the way, within 850 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: your own commonwealth. Uh, you know, there are challenges with 851 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: some of these leaders who may not have as much 852 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: commitment to democracy as um as we do here in 853 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: the United States that they do in Britain. So it 854 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: means Joe Biden is going to have a meeting with 855 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister sooner than he thought though, doesn't it sure? 856 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: And we would hope that that actually would be part 857 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: of what helps her, right It's another boost up for 858 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: her to be able to get to embrace from the 859 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: United States and other countries in Europe at a time 860 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: when you know, maybe she would have been left out 861 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: in the cold for a while to see as she does. 862 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: So this is this is an opportunity for her to 863 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: really cast in in in a positive way at a 864 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: time of grief, um to get a good launch and 865 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: into her administration. There was talk of the two meeting 866 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: President Biden and Prime Minister trust Joanna Off on the 867 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: sidelines kind of at the at the u N. But 868 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: this would be I'm sure a much more focused and 869 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: much more a well covered event when they when they 870 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: meet for the first time on what I presume will 871 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: be his visit in ten days to London. Well, and 872 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: that actually goes right into the u N. So I 873 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: am sure that the White House is right now scrambling 874 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: all of its plans that it had because all of 875 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: those things are planned well in advance. I mean, the 876 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor is working on who they're meeting with, 877 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: especially when we're trying to build coalitions to continue the 878 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: war against Putin's aggression, the genocide that Putin is overseeing. 879 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the White House absolutely is now 880 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, trying to change all of these plans because 881 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: the week of the nineteen they're supposed to be in 882 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: New York for the UN General Assembly. And so if 883 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: we look in ten days from now, um it is 884 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: it's uh it Obviously he's going to have to meet 885 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: with the British Prime Minister um. But there are a 886 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of meetings that they're probably trying to figure out 887 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: where is it going to take place? How true, boy, 888 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: there is just the logistics are daunting when you consider, uh, 889 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: the next ten days here lastly, Rick though you see 890 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: the President and the Vice President going, how many other 891 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: officials from Washington are there, the Speaker of the House 892 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: and who else? You know. It'll it'll be dictated by 893 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: protocol and um and and so that's it really, and 894 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: it will be limited by accessibility, you know, I mean, 895 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: and not everybody's going to be able to travel, so uh, myke. 896 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: My guess is, uh, it'll be most of official Washington. 897 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: You know who makes the first cut and and and 898 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: this is not going to be seen by anybody I 899 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: believe in any kind of um partisan fashion. Right, there's 900 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: no political advantage to stiffing the Brits and not going 901 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: to the funeral or otherwise. And uh so, you know, 902 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe we can take a little breath in the middle 903 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: of a midterm election and say, you know, let's all 904 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: get on the same plane and go over and and 905 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: play nice for at least forty eight hours. Rick Davis 906 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: and Joannabasca thank you for the great panel and the 907 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: great conversation on a special edition of Bloomberg Sound On. 908 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. Imagine. She's pretty nice girl, 909 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: but she doesn't have a lot to say. Man, she's 910 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: a pretty nice girl, but you changed from day to day. 911 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: I want to tell her a lover a lot, but 912 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: I gotta got a belly full of wine. Man, she's 913 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 1: a pretty nice girls. Some damn want to make a mine. 914 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some damn want to make a mind