WEBVTT - 103: Hell Hath No Fury

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Iheartradiots and Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about how Guermo watched episode one oh three

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<v Speaker 2>Hell Half No Fury twice yesterday, once today, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>on in the background currently as we are recording this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when I've watched this episode now a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like this sucks, Like this is so awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to explore these feelings. I feel this

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<v Speaker 2>like massive weight of responsibility where it's like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to breed and contribute a human being to

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<v Speaker 2>our fucked up society, the least I can do is

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<v Speaker 2>hope that they only add goodness and don't take it away.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean my mom sort of, I mean, my

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<v Speaker 2>brother was like, is the best fucking dude. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know him, he's the best, but like he was

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<v Speaker 2>such a fucked up teenager, Like he did such fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up shit. He did not fucking rape a girl, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you God, but like he definitely fucking sold fucking marijuana

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<v Speaker 2>and did dumb shit, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>my mom was like at the end of her room

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<v Speaker 2>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And look how well he turned out. Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn out well. I feel like, does your mom ever

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<v Speaker 2>think that, Like your mom had three boys?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. Plus we grew up, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties in New York City, where when in Washington Heights,

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<v Speaker 1>when the city was just like a ball of crime,

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<v Speaker 1>a snow globe of crime. It was just the worst,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I can imagine. But they also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had really no you know, my we were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of latchkey kids, and they had to work twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven, and they just had a trust that they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, instilled the right sort of value, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thing values and all of that in us and and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of trust and let us go and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, luckily we're somewhat okay.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite facts about Ghermo Diaz growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in such a fucking rough time and rough neighborhood. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me if this is wrong. This is what it is

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<v Speaker 2>in my head every time there's a close up of

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<v Speaker 2>the back of Huck's head. Oh yeah, I love it

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<v Speaker 2>so much because you have this scar back there, because

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you get hit with a gun?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't believe you remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I think of it every time I see the

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<v Speaker 2>back every and since I've been watching all these episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they you're always hacking huk and they're always zooming

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<v Speaker 2>in on the back of your computer, and I always

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<v Speaker 2>see that little bump on the back of your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yes, I got mugged in front of

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<v Speaker 1>my building in Washington Heights at like eleven o'clock at night,

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<v Speaker 1>at gunpoint. They held the gun up to my head

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<v Speaker 1>and were like, give me. I had like a flight

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<v Speaker 1>jacket and like a ring, like this cheap ring, and

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<v Speaker 1>they took my jacket in the ring and then they

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<v Speaker 1>told me to turn around, and I was like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you thought you were going to die?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But somehow, you know how they say, you get super

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<v Speaker 1>like calm in those in those moments of like complete

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where you would you would assume that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be really scared and it would just be full on fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I got really zen and really calm and just turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and then he just ended up hitting me with

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<v Speaker 1>the gun in the back of the head. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that what that scar is. I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have to get stitches?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I just went upstairs and my head was bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother was like, oh shit and put like

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<v Speaker 1>a towel and some ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they didn't even take me to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was just it was a small

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<v Speaker 1>it was a you know, a pretty small. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That is crazy. And where do you fall in line

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<v Speaker 2>of the brothers?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the youngest. Yeah, so I have two older brothers. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we work so well together, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is because I have this theory that every couple that

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<v Speaker 2>works out really well, they're not the same in birth order.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm the oldest and you're the me. I'm the oldest,

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<v Speaker 2>and Adam's the baby in his family. Oh sh like

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<v Speaker 2>I just if you go around and ask people who

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<v Speaker 2>are in loving relationships like me and Giermo Diaz, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm the older and you're the baby, not that

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<v Speaker 2>you not that we form that that you're necessarily act

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<v Speaker 2>like the youngest around me or not because you're no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, yeah shut up. Yeah no. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that theory. Yeah, that's that's interesting. That makes sense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's do this this stuff, and we should like

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<v Speaker 2>do this stuff? Gee, we should like to fucking say

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<v Speaker 2>what's on this fucking paper? And on this fucking paper

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<v Speaker 2>it says we're talking about episode one of three, which

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<v Speaker 2>was titled Hell Hath No Fury. It aired on April

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth of twenty twelve. It was written by Matt Byrne,

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<v Speaker 2>which we will circle back on this, and it was directed.

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<v Speaker 3>By Alice Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so much to say about both of these. Gee,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to give me the synopsis? In Scandalpace?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, here we go. Millionaire CEO Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>Harding contracts OPA with helping her aunt. I went over this.

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<v Speaker 3>So many times before we started, and of course now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, our Scandalpace might be out of practice. But as

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<v Speaker 2>we continue this, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here we go. Millionaire CEO Sandra Harding contracts OPA

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<v Speaker 1>with helping on her son Travis's trial for rape. Ahmeda.

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner's only demands is a five minute meeting with the

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<v Speaker 1>President and the White House gets hit with another scandal

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<v Speaker 1>and audio sex tape Dicyrus believes to be sent from

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia as blackmail.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have guest starring JoBeth Williams of Sandra hard

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<v Speaker 2>and Curtis Armstrong as Attorney call Michael Cassidy is Travis Harding.

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<v Speaker 2>Mina Baddy is assistant US attorney Jane Powell. Jerica Hinton

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<v Speaker 2>has Hannah, the doctor who delivers this amazing speech to Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Jerka Hinton plays Stephanie Edwards and Grays

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<v Speaker 2>and Natie. We're going to get to all of that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, I think that the guest stars between Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Beth Williams and Michael Cassidy were fucking incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, this is this episode. I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch, but it was also like every time I

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<v Speaker 1>got something new, I got something new out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I was so starstruck with these guest

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<v Speaker 1>stars because Joe Beeth Williams was the mother in Poltergeist

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<v Speaker 1>and Poltergeist Too. She played Diane Freeling and she is

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<v Speaker 1>freaking as everyone knows. I'm a huge horror film fan

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<v Speaker 1>and so be.

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<v Speaker 2>Around freaking out on set.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know this, my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think I was maybe honestly with Joe Beth.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew she was doing the episode, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her like by the trailers. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we have had many scenes together. She might have

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<v Speaker 1>been like in the office when you know, hucking Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>and those guys were there, So I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of around her, but I didn't really interact with

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<v Speaker 1>her on the show. But also, yeah, freaking amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>also our other guest star plays attorney Cole. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Booger from Revenge of the Nerds.

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<v Speaker 2>Man guys Booger for Revenge of the fucking Nerds. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rewatching this episode last night for today and Adam's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Booger, and I'm like, oh my god, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>is Booger.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an eighties kid like like I am, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Katie's younger than I, but you remember Revenge

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nerds like you write, and Booger like he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was, of course. And this is such a testament to

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Lowie, our casting director who's married to Jeff Perry,

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<v Speaker 2>who played Cyrus, Like yes, yes, God, the guest stars

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<v Speaker 2>were so fucking great on this show. And honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>guest stars have to carry oh yeah, the a story

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<v Speaker 2>like they have a lot of times, these guest stars

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<v Speaker 2>and g and I, you know, God, we've been around

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<v Speaker 2>in this biz, and like we've had to be like

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<v Speaker 2>the lead guest stars on episodics before. Like, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've done all the fucking law and orders.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Without a traces and cold cases and all that. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a tough job. I mean, you're working every day

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<v Speaker 2>for nine days. You are crying, you are getting rapes,

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<v Speaker 2>you are getting abducted, you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking a ghost. You are a ghost, remember you

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<v Speaker 1>on ghost Whisper I was. And also you're coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this world of actors that you know, have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show for her however many seasons. Yeah, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, you feel like a fish out

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<v Speaker 1>of water sort of in the beginning. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then you you know, you get your traction and then

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<v Speaker 1>it flows and then it gets easier. But you're just

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<v Speaker 1>coming into this world where everyone knows each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a well oiled machine the show usually, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you just want to go in and like impress.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a tough job.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember always we were always so kind to our

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<v Speaker 1>guest stars. I remember always saying to them, welcome, We're

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<v Speaker 1>so excited you're here, Like we're we're all so so

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<v Speaker 1>kind because I think of the fact that we all

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<v Speaker 1>have done so many guest star roles, right, so we

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<v Speaker 1>know how it is to feel when someone is not

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<v Speaker 1>sort of inviting or warmed to you on set.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this leans into Seanda having like that

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<v Speaker 2>no asshole policy. Yes, she had a no asshole policy

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<v Speaker 2>where when she hired the series regulars of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>she supposedly called our previous X bosses to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>vouch for us and make sure that we weren't dicks.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, a lot of us also fucking come from

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<v Speaker 2>theater and are major ensemble people. So when the guest

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<v Speaker 2>star is coming in and has to do all this

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<v Speaker 2>heavy lifting and literally sit at the OPA conference table

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<v Speaker 2>sobbing their eyes out or whatever, I felt like we

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<v Speaker 2>were all like and talk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's candle pace.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, the directors were like, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it up, pick up the pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, could you imagine if I was guest starring

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<v Speaker 2>on our show, I would have been shitting bricks.

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<v Speaker 3>And you were say, how I've always been a big preparer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was, But then do you remember towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of like the series, we'd all roll up

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<v Speaker 1>to OPA and be like, what's like have you looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the scene, And we'd be like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess let's look at it, let's read it like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they were setting up like I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's so fucking crazy about scandal and episodic TV,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in general is that, like your brain is

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<v Speaker 2>a muscle, so like if you do ten crunches a day,

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<v Speaker 2>in a few weeks, you can do one hundred or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the same with fucking memorizing lines. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>if you do it for eight years or however long

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing it, we would got so good at

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<v Speaker 2>the end that it actually made no sense to sit

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<v Speaker 2>at home and sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of do it in a bad thank you exactly. We

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<v Speaker 1>all started to realize that we could just go over

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course we'd look at it at home

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<v Speaker 1>and read the script and all of that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we didn't need as much time preparing now

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<v Speaker 1>to learn the lines. We'd go over it a few

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<v Speaker 1>times and then have it memorized like completely.

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<v Speaker 2>So we would always come on to set and like run.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew that the best way to learn it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually with each other, yes, and we would drill it

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<v Speaker 2>on like lighting setups or set changes in the hair

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<v Speaker 2>and makeup trailer. But you were really good at like

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<v Speaker 2>even a big fucking chunks, you and Josh Molina, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I know you say you've got a stoner brain,

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<v Speaker 2>and you do, and I love it so much. But

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<v Speaker 2>like you were really good memorizing a lot of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I had like pages of a monologue like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely like went over it over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over the night before because that you can't mess around

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you've run lines while you're like pacing or you

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<v Speaker 2>just like sitting in your secret room.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Mikey would run lines with me, my partner, he

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<v Speaker 1>would he would run lines with me, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it in front of him and just do it

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over and then you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I you know, keep drilling it until I got

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<v Speaker 1>it in my brain.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if we had long monologues like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, especially that we had to talk so fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to make sure you're on point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, one more thing on this and then we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>to the official shit of episode one of three. But

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<v Speaker 2>I know we talked about last episode scandal pace. It

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<v Speaker 2>was such a thing. But like also and do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember this gee, Like Shonda at the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the show said how you say is up to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but what you say is up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yes, So we.

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<v Speaker 2>Could never say an of or a the or like

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<v Speaker 2>improv a little bit like I've been on other jobs

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<v Speaker 2>since Scandal where it's like, you know, you just like

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<v Speaker 2>add a button or whatever the fuck, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we never went off script.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't in the very beginnings. I think it was Henry

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<v Speaker 1>ian Cusick who emailed Shawna was like can I say

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<v Speaker 1>this instead? And she was like no, or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what she says, but it was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a hard, cold, like hell no, like say what

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>When we have him on, we have to ask him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember him having a really fucking hard time

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<v Speaker 2>because he was coming off of like eight years on Lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember having conversations with him the first season

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<v Speaker 2>of Scandal where he was like, you don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>like we would show up in the fucking woods of

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<v Speaker 2>Hawaii shooting Lost and like no one knew their lines.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it wasn't about that, Like it was just

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<v Speaker 2>about like breathing heavy and running and like being afraid

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<v Speaker 2>and like sort of like saying some shit that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of didn't make sense anyway, because Lost wasn't about like

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<v Speaker 2>exact plot and character like, so he was coming into

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<v Speaker 2>something being like, wait, I have to like say exactly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly was on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's so brilliant about Shanda and the Scandal writers

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<v Speaker 1>was that if you missed an of or threw in

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<v Speaker 1>an extra the or whatever, and uh, it's like messing up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like poetry, like saying the words. It's written so well.

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<v Speaker 1>And we always talked about how if something's written really well,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's really easy to memorize and to say, so

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<v Speaker 1>if if you added something or took something out, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't flow as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I've never had an easier time memorizing than Scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>Same.

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<v Speaker 2>So the beginning of this episode, I felt like this

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<v Speaker 2>is so fucking cool, like we're saying cool again, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it's going in to get the little shitty,

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<v Speaker 2>spoiled piece of shit kid played by Michael Cassidy, who's

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<v Speaker 2>just bone this like hot blonde chick. They're all fucking hungover.

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<v Speaker 2>He's late to his court trial. Olivia comes in, wakey, wakey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and the music is playing, and she sort

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<v Speaker 2>of convinces the girl he was sleeping with to walk

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<v Speaker 2>out of the door with Harrison hiding, thinking that it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Michael Cassidy's role, Travis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeh. She sneaks him out the back.

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<v Speaker 2>And Harrison is so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so cool, He's always so cool. And and what

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<v Speaker 1>stuck out in this episode two is the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's music, and the music is amazing in

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<v Speaker 1>every episode, but in this in this episode, that music

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<v Speaker 1>is just that song is just playing over that whole

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<v Speaker 1>sort of intro. Yes, right, and even it's not only

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<v Speaker 1>music without lyrics, it's music with lyrics over dialogue, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like, oh shit, but it works so

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<v Speaker 1>so well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so it's so classic scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the beginning was such a classic Scandal. I loved

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<v Speaker 2>it so much, and I felt like, oh God, when

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<v Speaker 2>I come back, like, if I ever get to play

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<v Speaker 2>a cool character, I think I will. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn got cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Quinn so cool? Dude? Oh hell yeah. When

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<v Speaker 1>you started wearing your leathers and your black boots, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you got so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I felt like in her heart She's

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<v Speaker 2>still such a fucking turd.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't we all though we're all turds at heart. I

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<v Speaker 1>think all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We take a moment to discuss what we're wearing on

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<v Speaker 2>our heads, yes, and then we'll get more into the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>She and I wore our gladiator in a suit, long sleeve, comfy,

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<v Speaker 2>a little too tight, don't put it in the dryer shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>And today I text you this morning, I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we wearing today and what do you have on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I'm thinking of wearing my beanie,

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<v Speaker 1>my black beanie that I bought in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>gift shop. And we went to the White House Correspondence dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did I buy stationary?

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a beanie?

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<v Speaker 2>So cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a beanie. I bought a backpack. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sporting it now and chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>My scandal hat is really not cute. I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it is not a great hat. I

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<v Speaker 2>apologize to anyone who got who got this from I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave it away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a white beanie, and it's a scandal. It scandal

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<v Speaker 1>white Gladiator.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a white beanie, which just is not the right

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<v Speaker 2>color for a beanie. A white beanie is not great.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's weird. You sweat in your head, there's dance

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<v Speaker 2>like your head is gross. I make up on my forehead.

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<v Speaker 2>So to have a white hat on is Oh, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that funny? Because our show White did they the hat

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<v Speaker 2>says scandal and red and then gladiators in black underneath

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<v Speaker 2>your head hot.

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<v Speaker 3>My head is so hot. I'm going to be pulling

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<v Speaker 3>this shit off in like so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you need to just let your head breathe, ge,

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<v Speaker 2>just let it flow. The coolest part about Scandal, there

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<v Speaker 2>are so many things, but we got to go on

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<v Speaker 2>the most epic trips. We got to go to two

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<v Speaker 2>White House Correspondent dinners, both under Obama as president. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the most amazing fun time. With the hat

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<v Speaker 2>you got from the first trip or the second trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It was from the first one. Yeah. And also we

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<v Speaker 1>were on the hottest like political show on television, so

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<v Speaker 1>all of us in DC like there for the correspondence dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was it was so surreal and

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<v Speaker 1>meeting all these political figures and celebrities and like you

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<v Speaker 1>know people that were like Aretha Franklin was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love your show, and it was just like wild to

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<v Speaker 1>be around.

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<v Speaker 2>Why people, you know what I mean, It's the closest

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<v Speaker 2>I always equate it to like, it's like the closest

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<v Speaker 2>to being probably like what the Beatles felt like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it before that you can't go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but I sort of can. But when you drop the

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<v Speaker 2>Scandal cast as a group into DC, when we were on,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like we were the fucking Beatles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, insane And.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most memorable nights of my life I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say is when we were there. Oh I

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<v Speaker 2>think this was the last time, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna talk about anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was the time we went We

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<v Speaker 2>went as a cast kind of three times for two

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<v Speaker 2>different White House Correspondence dinners, and then the last time

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<v Speaker 2>we went to shoot the penultimate episode there. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>again we could never go anywhere as a group without

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<v Speaker 2>being completely I mean, it was not safe. But Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>had this idea that was, like, I love all of

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington monuments and all of the monuments at night,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we got like two escalades that followed each

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<v Speaker 2>other and it was pouring rain, so actually no one

0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.080
<v Speaker 2>was around and the h and freezing, and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>scandal cast like jumped around from like the Jefferson Memorial

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lincoln Memorial, to the Washington Memorial to the

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<v Speaker 2>Einstein A statue.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all at.

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<v Speaker 2>Night while we were just chugging whistle pig whiskey out

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<v Speaker 2>of the fucking bottles to keep us warm.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did photo shoots in front of all the

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<v Speaker 1>monuments we got, you know, we got out and videoed

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<v Speaker 1>each other and took pictures and yeah, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>drinking whistle pig whiskey, which and then later on Bellamy

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Bellamy, right, who got us all

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of whistle pig. I still have it in

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<v Speaker 1>my kitchen. Oh yeah, I haven't opened it.

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<v Speaker 2>I drank that shit you Okay, So Joebeth Williams is

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable in this episode and the things that neat that

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<v Speaker 2>really struck out to me at the beginning. Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got so Sandra Harding is the case. Her son is

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<v Speaker 2>saying there's a rape allegation against him from a woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Helen Fisher. Olivia makes a deal with Gideon Wallace

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the story quiet for seventy two hours and

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<v Speaker 2>then he'll get an exclusive aman of Tanner tells Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>that she has undeniable proof of the affair with fits Paz.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Amanda Tanner for a second. Weren't you

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<v Speaker 2>a huge Gilmore Girls Van?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I still am. They play that shit

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<v Speaker 1>like every single day like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have never seen an episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Really talk about scandal pace, Katie. Those guys speak faster

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<v Speaker 1>than we do. They speak so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember auditioning for it, and oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>auditioned like a million times because it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>Hot show when I moved out to la and I

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<v Speaker 2>auditioned a million times and they would always make me

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<v Speaker 2>speak really fast, and I'd be like, this is so

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<v Speaker 2>easy for me, Like why am I not getting a

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<v Speaker 2>part on the show? But I never got a part

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<v Speaker 2>on that show?

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<v Speaker 1>Their loss? Yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda Tanner is played by Liza While Who who did

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<v Speaker 2>she play on Gilmore Show?

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<v Speaker 1>She played Paris on Gilmore Girls. She was like the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>like staunch, like bitch, like super smart, like went to Harvard,

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<v Speaker 1>like angry, like the meanest like but she was Rory's

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<v Speaker 1>best friend who's one of the lead characters on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Amanda Tanner is like a completely different

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<v Speaker 2>character for Eliza than Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was so great watching her play Amanda

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner because I was like, this girl got ranged. You know,

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>people say that all the time, but she the emotional

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<v Speaker 1>places that Liza had to go playing Amanda Tanner was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think we all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar with it a little bit because we all

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<v Speaker 1>had to, you know, go through some serious stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the show as our characters. But she just does such

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Job speaking about you guys listening, Like Shondaland likes to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of collect people, you know that they continue from

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<v Speaker 2>project to project and things like that. And Liza, while

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<v Speaker 2>at the time was married to Paul Adelstein, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>who well he was playing he played Leo Bergen, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was originally the lead doctor on Private Practice, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why Shonda and Linda Lowie know Liza and

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<v Speaker 2>I think this. I don't know if this is a

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<v Speaker 2>secret or whatever, but whatever, Liza, I'm pretty sure I

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<v Speaker 2>remember shooting scenes with her season one when she was

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<v Speaker 2>playing a Manda Tanner, and I remember her being like,

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I auditioned for Quinn. No, yes, And I remember sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there watching how fucking good she was and me being like,

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 2>this makes no sense. I remember, oh, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank God in heaven and whoever the fuck you

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.199
<v Speaker 2>pray to It easily could have been Liza, like but anyway,

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I think Liza auditioned for Quinn and they just called

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.479
<v Speaker 2>her and said, no, we want you to be Amanda Tanner.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we're gonna have her on and.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to ask and she'll tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to have her on.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing that happens in this episode that

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<v Speaker 2>I need to talk about, I'm sorry, I'm interrupting you. Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That Tony Goldwin takes off his shirt.

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>When he wakes up when he oversleeps.

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 2>He's oversleeps, and Mellie is sitting in the fucking West

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 2>wing where wherever they sleep, No, the private residence, I

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 2>think is what it's called, yea, and Tony's sleeping and

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna reserve the ride on this podcast. That

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 2>whenever I call people their characters' names or their real names, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>get yeah, yeah, Tony's sleeping and he wakes up and he's.

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, what's happening? Mandela got up for me? Like Mandela

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 3>is waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Because yes, he's in boxers and like a T shirt

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that he slept in, and he quickly takes off his

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>T shirt and I was dumbfounded.

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty easy and eyes.

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 2>What is going on with this human beings body like?

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's just not fair.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I loved he is family. He

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>drinks wine, he orders desserts, he eats carbohydrates. He just

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 2>must also like eat like baby vampires or something that

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Although, Katie, I remember during the table reads, I always

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>remember Tony having ordering a salad. It was like from

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>tender Greens and it was either the the tuna with

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the greens. I know, I'm so hungry, right,

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 1>hungry too, Oh my god, let's talk about what we

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>ate in a little bit. But I remember Tony always

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>eating super super healthy. I think it's him. And then

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, when Scott Foley comes into the picture, when

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Jake comes into the picture, they always knew they were

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>like at the drop of a hat that were like

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you gotta take your shirt off.

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 3>You know you're gonna have sex. Would have lived or

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>someone else. So I think that I feel like.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They were always super super prepared.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, he looked out standing, even in those two minutes.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, God, if you were editing the episode,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you must have been like, and Shaun is sitting there

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 2>like putting the episodes together. She must have been like, Okay,

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.199
<v Speaker 2>well we can just rest assured that Tony should be

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>topless in every sex scene for the next seven years.

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's fine, Yes, But also that scene when he

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>wakes up and he oversleeps.

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 3>It reminded me.

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Tony always sleeping on set? Like, wasn't he We'd

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>always like catch him like asleep, like any chance he got,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like sleeping.

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Why is he so tired?

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm tired too.

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I am too. But you know what, maybe it's because

0:24:54.960 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he was fifty then, right, Like do you know what

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like when we were shooting Scandal, I was

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight through like thirty six, whow and you were.

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I turned forty on the pilot. On the pilot, I

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>turned forty.

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he was like because I think Tony's like

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>sixty six or sixty seven. I think he can see

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>mixed my yeah, I think he's six. Let's google it.

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I think he's like fifty eight or fifteen nine.

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh am, I oh he oh am, I am

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 2>completely wrong. Hold on. If he's he's sixty two.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>What oh shit? He looks good.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, but so imagine at fifty two years old.

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>You're not in fifty two yet. Gee. Imagine being on

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>set with those hours. He was just so tired.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 3>She was tired, She got asleep.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I got to sleep.

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I think him and Jeffy were constantly sleeping on set.

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and jeff was always sleeping for sure. We'll be

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>right back, guys.

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>What other notes do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about maybe Alison Lady Brown, like our

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>director for this episode.

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's give a whole fucking moment of silence, respect, love,

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and adoration for that woman.

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Alison Lady Brown came into Our Lives on Scandal and

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>directed a whole bunch of episodes. I'm assuming this is

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the first episode she directed, right, Yeah, I think it was. Yeah,

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the loveliest woman, super chill, super funny, just so beautiful,

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>just such a great, great director, and I think she

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>came from directing a lot of stuff on like Nickelodeon right,

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like kid shows. So it was funny

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to see her transition from that into this, you know,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 1>crazy scandal world.

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>We were so lucky to get her so early at

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the top. And actually, I never look at you like this,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>but I have to say, when I was rewatching this episode,

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 2>there are so many just fucking dope shots. Yes, and

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I don't know about camera, but I

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 2>feel like she's nailing it.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, And.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>We had such a love affair with Alison Liddy Brown

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>because she came back and directed the infamous seven fifty two.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I should have won every fucking acting award under the sun.

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 3>Also, Alison Lady Brown is queer.

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>She's you know, she's an openly gay woman, which I loved,

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, especially when she directed me

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in seventy two because I'm openly as well. But I

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it was just a cool thing to be like,

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, and I'm wearing a shirt that says

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>queer right now, Yes, you.

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Are speaking about which I was thinking about this last night. Shit,

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>when we have Carrie on we have to ask her this.

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I think Carry was like the last person to know

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>that Giarmo Diaz is an openly gay person. She was

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like what, I feel like the first bunch of episodes,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we were all like pretty buttoned up about our personal lives.

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we were all just like kind of nervous

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and exceeded and like scared and trying to put like,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, we just didn't know if we were going

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>to be real life friends or like, you know, it

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was just like I don't know if people like knew everything,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know at what episode I asked you

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>where do you live? And you said, oh, I live

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>in West Hollywood, right by the parade, And I.

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh, shit, parade, Like.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I literally know what you were talking about. I was

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>like the parade, and then I was like, oh, the

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking gay cry parade. Oh my god, is this person gay?

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 2>And then I ran home and I googled it and

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I found out that you were, and I was like,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>this is the fucking greatest news and slice bread. But

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>then I remember that Carrie. I don't know how she

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>found out, but I remember it was in like episode

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>seven of season one, while we were in Gideon's apartment

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>and he's dead on the floor. This is how it

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>is in my memory. I don't know if it's true.

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>And she found out that you were gay. I think

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>we were all talking and maybe I said it or something,

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>and she flipped out, screaming more. Because Carrie has an

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>inside of her where she's like, I'm the dork that's

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the last to know.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes. She also has extreme fomo like fear of missing out,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like she needs to be in on every conversation, everything

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that's happening, right, So I'm sure she was like, wait,

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>what how did I not know?

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, She's very like especially in OPA, it's such like,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a click of high school students who

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>were like all talking, talking, talking, talking, and if you're

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>like over to the left getting your hair and makeup done,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and you like miss a little tidbit of hot goss,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>You're like, have you got to get in there?

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>So she felt like she hadn't known yet yes, And

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I think she was the last of the OPA people

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to know. So then what happens is this is insane.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for this tidbit? I'm gonna give you Helen,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>who's the girl that is accusing Travis of rape is

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>played by this actress named Helen Woglum. She and I

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>were an acting class together at Leslie Khan and she

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>was so.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>So good good, yes, yes, yes, You've got.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>That monologue where she's like, how much.

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 3>How much would it take for you?

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 2>How much would it take for you to be quiet

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>about being raped? To shut up? How much could you

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>be bought for? And her lip is all quivering and

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>she's so good. Were you in the room?

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>No, you're hu isn't in the room for that?

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>No, But I think that's the first time obviously with

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the characters were Olivia and the other attorneys were and

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they were all like, oh shit, this bitch is telling

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the truth. Like we're fucked now, you know what I mean.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>They were like, oh, she's not even taking the money.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>She was like no, I don't want the money, like.

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then they're trying to get him ready for

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 2>trial and he says to Harrison, well, what does this mean?

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>They always take the money? And then Harrison calls Olivia

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I think he's paid people off before,

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>which sets all of OPA like down the path to know,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.959
<v Speaker 2>this guy's a fucking piece of shit, and Michael Cassidy

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>plays him so well.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's so good. He's so good. He's such a

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>great actress.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>So good. The other thing that when they find out

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Harrison goes to get the rape kit from Jerica.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Hint hit it in, Yes, who.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Ended up kicking ass so much that again, like I said,

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Shanallane keeps it all in ensemble, like they gave her

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>an amazing job. She played Stephanie Edwards on Gray's Anatomy.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But how fucking great was her monologue?

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh oh good, so moving, so moving, but powerful

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and like hell yeah, Like she just throws it back

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>at Harrison because he's sort of flirting with her in

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. He's trying to get this rape kit, you

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And she's like, dude, you don't

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>got to flirt with me. Listen, I deal with these

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>women that have gone through this, you know, extremely traumatizing experience,

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if you need something, I'll give you whatever you want,

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>but don't flirt with me, especially not in this room,

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>not right now and in this environment, you know what

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And she does it so freaking well. She's

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>so powerful, such a great freaking actress.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 2>H Yeah, she does it so well. She's such a

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>good accurate matt Burne wrote this episode, which makes me

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 2>think of how long I've been with Matt burn because

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>matt Burne. First of all, it wasn't until reading these

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>pieces of paper that I even realized Matt burn was

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>with us from the beginning. Was he like I thought

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>he came in at season two. I can't believe he

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>wrote this episode.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I honestly, I was like, maybe season three or four.

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought Matt burn sort of came in, But I

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>thought so too.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>And he wrote Inventing Anna. No, yes, so I I

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>mean Seanna wrote it. I mean he was in the

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>writers for Inventing Anna. But he was like a big

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 2>dog on Inventing Anna. He wasn't like he was like executive.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what his title was, but it was

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>a big title. And so I got to be with

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>him in New York for a while shooting Inventing Anna.

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's just so cool to watch and having been

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>with someone sort of at the start, because I don't

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>actually think he was a television writer before scandal. I

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>think he was actually a journalist. I think he wrote

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I think he was a journalist. And they in the

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Scandal writer's room, especially at the beginning, they had a

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of people who weren't television writers who could really

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>write in that sort of up against it taking clock

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>like article type way. But he wrote Inventing Anna and

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I played this character Rachel Deloche Williams

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sobbed. I'm crying like on the stand testifying.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>And Matt Burne came in and he gave me like

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 2>an acting note and I was like, okay, you like me.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>He came in and he was like, I'm I was

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>there at this actual trial of Amadelvi. He was at

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the trial for doing research for this show, and he

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, your character at this point is fucking ugly sobbing.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like fake wow, Like this isn't like even

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit crying like boo, this is like

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>how ugly and unabandoned do you cry when no one's looking?

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Fuck, which is the worst thing you could tell an

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>actor because then that pressure no tears anywhere to be found.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Don't freaking tell me that shit, Like really.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Dearmo, I was like, bring in the tearstick.

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 3>You're bringing them tearsticks.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever I use a tearstick?

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you I have in the past, But yeah I have, Yeah,

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>for sure I have.

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And then there's you know, you just never know. That's

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the thing about acting.

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it comes and you don't need that shit, and

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's just not available. You're just not it's just

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 1>not there and you have to fake the funk and

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that tears that comes in for the for our listeners,

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what a tearstick is. It's a freaking

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>little hollow stick that has like eucalyptus in the middle, right,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and and the makeup artist blows through it into your

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>eyes to make your eyes tear up, right, Katie.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a bit. They have two different There's a

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>menthol stick that's a blower. Yeah, that's what she's talking about.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>They like blow Menthol crystals into your eyes. It's essentially

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.439
<v Speaker 2>like blasting vix vapor rub in your eyes, which makes

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>tears come. Or there's a lipstick tube that's menthol, like

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 2>a vix vapor rub in ellipstick form, and I would

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>just rub that underneath my eyes. Call action. Yeah, I

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I literally think I did damage sometimes during between Scandal

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and inventing Anna. There are times, like you said, where

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I can cry on command and it's sign. But then

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you're on our four yeah, of shooting the scene, and

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you're so dried out and you're so like I can't,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 2>like I don't even want to think about dead puppies anymore.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>And if your coverage, if you're last up to get

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>your coverage, coverage is when they're you know, the camera's

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>pointed at you, and you do you do the scene,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you're featured. By the time they get to you. Sometimes

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just you're drained. Like you said, it's it's just

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>not there, and sometimes it is, it comes out of nowhere.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what's so beautiful about acting, too, right, because it's

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of magical and you never know. Sometimes crazy beautiful

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff happens, and sometimes it doesn't. I agree, you know,

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's what that's also like. Sometimes I'm like I

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>used to feel guilty, but then I was like, no,

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's good acting too, Like I'm acting like I'm

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>really doing this shit and nobody's clocking me for it,

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.439
<v Speaker 1>so you know what I mean, Like that was good? Right?

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you mean like if you feel like I know,

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I used to be like oh fuck. Am I not

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>supposed to tell people I use a tear stick because

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>people think I'm going a crappy reactor.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. We don't use it all the time.

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's once in a while when you feel like, Okay,

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I need to I need to be there at this

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>level of emotions and I'm not there, so and then

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you'll do it. But it doesn't We don't use it

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>all the time a lot of.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Times, you know, don't like to spend the whole time

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 2>thinking like, oh my god, there are no tears coming. Yeah,

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you're just like taking yourself out of the scene. You're

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>not thinking about what you want from the other person.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you think Meryl Streep uses a tearstick?

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Hell no, I don't think so.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 2>But you think she's just that great, Yes, But.

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I've also seen scenes where she's super emotional, know, and

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>crying and there's no tears and it still works and

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>her eyes are sort of well up and do you

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like it doesn't have to be full.

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.959
<v Speaker 3>On tears all the time.

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And again, she's so wonderful.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Somebody get fucking mail Streep on this podcast so that

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>we can I.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Want to know if that uses a tearstick?

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you use a tear stick? I want to find out.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I've got to know somebody that knows her. I met

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.919
<v Speaker 2>her daughter once. But do you think it'd be weird

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>if I went right up to her daughter be like,

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>does your mother tears?

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 3>It would be a little weird.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, But I think you should still do

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it because you're probably not that close with her.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, No, don't care if I promise here now today, folks,

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>if I run into Gracie Gummer, uh maybe Gummer.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I like those names.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I run into them, I'm gonna ask them

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>if their mom uses a tearstick. Oh, we have to

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about Carrie Washington and her first White House state

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>dinner dress. That is she no one wears clothes like

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Kerry Washington.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>So this is the first time we see Olivia Pope

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>dressed up going to a White House extravagant event. Right,

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time we see her.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's remarkable. I mean, she looks so gorgeous and

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>when they're dancing and his hands are on her back

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 2>because the dress is backless and it's white, and I'm

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>just like, yes, you know again, Adam walked into the room.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 2>He left and then he came back for this part

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, my god, they were so good together.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Harry had good chemistry with that white dress.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>That dress was outstanding. She looked remarkable.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>It really was.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so classy, so hot, and I also felt so

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>bad for Melly, like cut to like what Mellie's wearing

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>in like some sort of dumpy hairstyle and like a

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 2>crappy sort. It's not crappy, but it was like matronly.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Right compared to Olivia Pope. Yeah, I was like, oh.

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Shit, Carrie had a lot of skin out and stuff,

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wow, Melly, you don't stand a

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>fucking chance.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 3>That wig was on tight on Carry's head.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And their chemistry during the dancing when he was like

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>meet me in our spot, she's like, don't look at me,

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 2>don't look at me or whatever.

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>He goes to that spot to wait for her and

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>she's sort of on her way to meet him, and

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus first stops Olivia and he's like, get out of here.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 3>We don't want you here. We know you're trying to

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 3>blackmail us.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Cause in the meanwhile, Cyrus receives a recording of Fits

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>having sex with a woman, and they obviously assume it's

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Amanda Tanner, and Cyrus thinks that it was Olivia Pope

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that is trying to blackmail them. So he stops Olivia

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Pope in her tracks where she's going to meet Fitz,

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hell, no, fuck you think you're doing.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Get out of here, and he throws her out of

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 3>the White House.

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes to the spot where Fits is

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>waiting for Olivia and he sort of, you know, tells him.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I know what you're doing. You're waiting here

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>for fucking Olivia.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well she's not coming because she's trying to blackmail us. Yeah.

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>It's really interesting how Cyrus is sort of that in

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>between that middle guy.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 2>He is a sticky, tricky, smart character. He's just like

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>always looking. He's just doing what's in all what he

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>thinks is in his own best interest, no matter who. Yes,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>he has to sort of cross and double he's playing

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>double sides all the time.

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and he plays it so brilliantly, especially in

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the scene, I mean always.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he's such an amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing,

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>amazing actor. Then this episode takes such a turn for

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>darkness for me, which is I sob when the mom

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 2>calls the cops on Travis, can I tell you what's

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 2>so dark and why I think that? And I'm so sorry?

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go here.

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a son now?

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it made you think, like, would I do

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 3>this to my kid?

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if I would. Hopefully I never

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 2>have to know, but I do. I get so worried

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 2>about raising a kind boy, a kind white boy in

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>this world and him ever hurting someone, and me being

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>completely aghast and shocked by, like, I can't believe I

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 2>like raised a monster. You know, she has all these

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 2>brilliant monologues where she was like I was never there,

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I never made it to his games, and I'm fucking

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 2>all up in my son's shit.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You're such a present mom, Yeah, you're all up in

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>his grill.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else happened we talked about in this episode?

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 2>What are other favorite things we.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Should talk about?

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>How the character who is accusing this young piece of

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>crap who supposed he raped her, we find out the

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>OPA team ends up discovering that it was her best

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>friend that in fact was raped by him. And she

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>then and that girl ended up killing herself. He paid

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>her off. She ends up killing herself, and so her

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 1>friend we cut to what is this character's name.

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Helen, Yeah, Helen.

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>So Helen ends up dyeing her hair and sort of

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say stalking because that has a

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>nasty edge because she was trying to get this guy

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>back for what he did to her best friend.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's trying to blackmail him. No, what would the

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>word be.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to trick him into like taking her out

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and having sex with her, and then she accuses him

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of raping her. But you know, and so the OPA

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>team finds out and Booger ends up like destroying her

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>on the stand and she's crying. It's such a sad

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>emotional scene because you feel for her. You're like, she's

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>she was fucking stepping up for her best friend who

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>ended up killing herself because this guy raped her. So

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I'm gonna dye my hair, I'm gonna

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>find this dude. Then I'm gonna end up accusing him. Anyway,

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>it was all obviously, you know, when it's all discovered,

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>they can't prosecute because it wasn't her it was her friend.

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>And Travis fucking gets off because he's a piece of shit,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and then the moment has to make this choice about

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>calling the you know, Olivia goes to her door and says,

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 2>what he did wasn't your fault, but how you handle.

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 3>It now is right exactly, yeah.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 2>And so she calls the cops on him, and then

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I freak out about raising a sun.

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 1>And the mother ends up calling the cops on him

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and they take him away, which is so satisfying.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so great, and he's like, what's so satisfying? Get

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here, as we would say, we'll

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>be right back. The other thing. I love two more

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>things about this episode m Okay three one. Tony says,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>why do you invite live? And Mellie says, in that

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>classic creepy, fucking Bellamy knows all type way, she's just like,

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>you needed to see her. You slept better last night,

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't you? And You're like, what the fuck is going

0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>on with this relationship?

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeh? She knows?

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>What does she know? How much does she know? This

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>feels so icky and so interesting and I love it

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and the way that Bellamy Young is able to just

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 2>like fucking deliver that in two lines is ridiculous.

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>She kind of lowers her voice. She goes down here.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I know now you can sleep, can't you.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>We ought to make her do that on this podcast.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I was gonna say, speaking to memorable lines.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this the episode where Hucks says to Quinn.

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<v Speaker 3>You're weird.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Weird is good, which I love.

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can't believe we almost stepped over that. No.

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember getting that monologue and it said scandal paste

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<v Speaker 2>as fast as you can say it, Katie, where I

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>call Giddeon and I'm like, you were.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 3>So good and so fast in that scene.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And that beautiful shot of that like stained glass like

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>piece of art whatever it was behind you. Oh, it's

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>such a great And then Huck is waiting at the

0:43:58.400 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>door and he says, and.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>You say you're weird, and I say, no, I'm not,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 2>and you say weird it's good, and I say, thank you.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We're so stark.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best. Weird is good. And right here, right

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 2>now is even like the beginning of the Quinn Hawk shit. Yes, yes,

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 2>you're already seeing what they're fucking doing. Like, yeah, I'm

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 2>not sure if they knew or they didn't know.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they were starting to kind of feel

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>feel it going that way, you know what I mean.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 3>It's just so great. And then another scene that's stuck out.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you were going to say this

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>one too, is when she's at the bar and she's

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>waiting for Gideon and he Hawks shows up and he's like,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>put your.

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Hair down, flirt a little bit, but not too much.

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't drink the real drinks. Drink you drink this. You

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 2>pay off the bardunder by the way, we see the

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Quinn hawk thing, and then we see Quinn say to live,

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>which I kind of I didn't like, hate my performance,

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>which is good. I said, well, I trust my gut

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and I think she's lying. Yeah, And I just fast

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 2>forwarded all the way to like the end of the

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 2>series where Opa is QPA and this whole thing started

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>because Olivia Pope, I mean didn't start. She can do

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 2>a million things, but one of the things that makes

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Olivia is her gut. And we already see from

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of Scandal that Quinn's got one too.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I thought of that too. It's so brilliant.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>But then I at first I was like, fuck is

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>in Olivia supposed to be the only one that you know,

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>goes with her gut. But then I thought, well, that's

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason that she put this team together. That's

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the reason why she got freaking Lindsay Dwyer and changed

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>her identity. She knew there was something special about You,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>about Uck, about Harrison, about Abby, about all of them.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>They're all flawed, but then they're all sort of brilliant

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>in their own way too. So you see when Quinn says,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I trust my gut, and you know, I

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>think she's lying, Olivia has that sort of moment of like, wait,

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? But then it sort of

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>clicks for her and she's like, oh shit, okay, this girl,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>this girl's got a gut too. Whoa which I love.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>The other crazy thing that I have read about on

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 2>the Internet that exists in this like the interweb dark net.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Remember we would always talk about the dark net.

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 3>On the dark Web, Yes, yeah, yeah.

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Dark Web. Some fans seem to think in this whole

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 2>like Olivia has a gut and Quinn has a gut,

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and maybe from the beginning they knew that OPA was

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>going to turn into QPA. Supposedly, some fans think that

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Quinn is only named Quinn because it's the closest letter

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>from an Oh, Like, all you would have to do

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to make opa qpa is add that a line.

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Think, yeah, what is that? There's got to be a

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 3>name for that little line in the queue, right, I wonder.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>That's got to be on purpose? Olivia Pope and associates. Yeah,

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>when Perkins and associates.

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>And Perkins, Oh shit.

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Is that I have goosebum web is fucking crazy?

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:46:56.160 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>And then the episode ends with the big reveal that

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Amanda Tanner is with child.

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>As they used to have to say in the fifties

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 1>on Is Love Lucy, they couldn't say pregnant. They had

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>to say with child or true. Yeah, they couldn't even

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>say I'm pregnant.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Amanda Tanner is pregnant with what we seem

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 2>to believe is President Fitzgerald Grant's baby, and she's only

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>asked for a sit down meeting with him, that's what

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 2>she wants.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Some fun facts about this episode is that David Rosen

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>is seen with a.

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Dog um perro.

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Un perro.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Remember on the Scandal days where I'd be like, let's

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>try going a whole day where gamme gamar only to

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Spanish to me so that I could learn Spanish, and

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I would make it one minute.

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, well, okay, said kid, and Katie was like.

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can't do it, can't do it. Don't understand

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about. And I'd love to talk too much.

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And then we'd be like, let's go see what food

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>they got in the in the you know, a crafty

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>let's go look it forod.

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 2>So he's got a dog in this episode. It's the

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 2>only time the dog appears and never appears again.

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you think.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 2>They're probably just like this is so expensive, Like fuck.

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It, I mean, and also like, you know, how many

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>opportunities were there to be like let's bring in the

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>big dog.

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, he was either in.

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 1>His office or at OPA or wherever, so he kind

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.919
<v Speaker 1>of you know, I get that the dog phased out.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 2>The working title for the episode was actually a Woman Scorned.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>The title comes from the phrase hell half no fury,

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like a woman scorned. Wait, so it's called hell half

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 2>no Fury.

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it.

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Was originally a woman scorn. I think maybe because a

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 2>woman scorned people wouldn't know that was from a saying.

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess they wanted to leave it sort

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit more encompassing of a lot of

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff and accept instead of focusing in on woman the

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 1>woman part.

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Oh that's a good point.

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps, I don't know.

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>In wrapping up, should we do some tweets at the time?

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh you ready for?

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit? Time time time, time, tweet tweet, tweets at

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the ties.

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Tweets at the time, y'all.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so many of these tweets that I'm reading.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>From April twenty sixth, there's a tweet from Giermo Diaz.

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:16.760
<v Speaker 2>What did you tweet?

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Dude?

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't even freaking remember why I tweeted that shit.

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's a response to something, right, because

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I say, stop trying to make fetch happen? Lol?

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Mike, glad you're enjoying Scandal ABC. Who the hell

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 3>was I talking to?

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Why is that guy Mike one trying to make fetch happen?

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:36.479
<v Speaker 2>What is he talking about?

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>And is that Mike Webb my boyfriend? Like I wonder

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>if that's because my boyfriend's name is Mike, But I

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>wonder because I remember he was on Twitter for like

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a hot second.

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 2>But then what was Mike's Twitter name? Do you remember it?

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember because he was literally on for a second,

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>so I wonder if that was him.

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we won't ever know, but let me tell you

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 2>something that guy Mike won Fetch never happens.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Fetch never happened. Unscandal Bye balloon. Oh that's a whole

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>other thing we got to talk about when that episode

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>comes up by balloon.

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 2>No, the balloon seed I think was cut. Oh no way,

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it ever made it to air. I

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.240
<v Speaker 2>really don't, but we'll get there.

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>We could, but we could. We remember the episode so

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 1>we can still talk about.

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>So then Natalie Abrams also tweeted this night scandal tweets

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>at the Times, and Natalie Abrams was like a fucking

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 2>huge journalist, reporter fan who covered scandal from the start

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>when nobody was like the beginning of scandal, nobody cared,

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>nobody gave us press, nobody cared. Nobody cared except for

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Natalie Abrams. She wrote, in case you missed it, hashtag

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 2>scandalscoop will Quinn's relationship with Gideon get her into trouble.

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not that interesting, but anyway, shout out to Natalie Abrams.

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 2>We love you. Carrie tweeted a tweet that night of

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a picture of her in the incredible dress with her

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>shy makeup artist, Sherry, and she wrote, we have the

0:50:55.000 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>best crew on TV at Scandal ABC. Love Yes, Sherry Knight,

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>who was Carrie's makeup artist for all seven years, she

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>needs to come on this podcast. We love her so much.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we love her.

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Are there any other good ones? Gee?

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's another good one from Mozilla Junior and she says,

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus in Scandal is a lion.

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Bleep, bleep, bleep.

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I think what she meant to say is Cyrus in

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Scandal is a lion piece of shit. Exclamation exclamation by

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation esclamation point, and then she says I'm angry exclamation

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<v Speaker 1>point hashtag scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really starting to ramp about. Oh, someone's got

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a good note for us. Sad bitch Summer at Twinkies

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 2>and Wine says the only bad thing about Scandal that

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the transitions are seizure inducing.

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I love her, I think she means because the clicks

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of the camera right it is sort of.

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, good luck, because we use the shit out

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of that sound effect for seven years.

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, someone else tweeted, and another thing is the person's

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of name, Mesha Crump. Yeah, Olivia Pope is a bad,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 1>bad woman.

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Exclamation point. Oh wow, people are starting to get their

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 3>feelings about the show.

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 2>But also it's the beginning of the show where I

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 2>feel like people didn't know which way to feel about

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Pope because very soon we're gonna see from tweet

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to at the time that Olivia Pope can do no wrong.

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I really feel like, at a certain point, Olivia Pope

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 2>was the greatest fucking superhero to have ever graced everyone's

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>television screens on Thursday nights at nine or ten o'clock,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>and no one ever tweeted bad shit about Olivia Pope.

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 2>And god forbid, you were a character on Scandal who

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 2>was against Olivia Pope at the time, you were fucked.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And even when she fucking killed that dude with a chair,

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>people were still Olivia. She's so wonderful, Olivia.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>The way you killed that guy with a fucking chair.

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>She freaking clobbered this motherfucker and killed him.

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Pay you rigged an election, the way you cheat. We

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 2>love you. You can do no wrong. Olivia Pope is fucking perfect.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>At this point, people just like weren't sure. I mean,

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 2>this is only episode three of the one hundred and twenty.

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I think we did one hundred.

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>One super super early on.

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gee, did you know? Like I know, we do

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 2>tweets of the time, But I also think that during

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the show there were actual real life scandals of the time.

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 1>A lot of scandals. Listen, I bet there were scandals

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>left and right during this whole show. I mean there's

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>scandals every day, which.

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 2>We have to do that research too, which I'll put

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you on Gearmo. Since you're the researcher of the show

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 2>who researches all the guest stars in their links to

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 2>horror films, I need you to also put on the

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 2>list scandals of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember this, g I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of don't, but tell me if you do. During the

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<v Speaker 2>airing of this episode, all these secret service dudes were

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<v Speaker 2>relieved of their duties because they were all messing around

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<v Speaker 2>with prostitutes allegedly. Yeah. But that's what's so crazy about

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<v Speaker 2>Scandal is that, like nothing we did was far from truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea ever, but also that sounds so vanilla right now

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, when the twice impeached disgraced former

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<v Speaker 1>president like stole literal documents from the White House and

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<v Speaker 1>he has them in his freaking year you're so right house,

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<v Speaker 1>so wherever the hell it is, And that a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of prostitutes for these secret agents, like yo, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time to go date and go to bars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're working twenty four hour fucking shifts trying to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the fucking most important person of the free world alive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they need to pay for a quick fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minute blowjob.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Listen, sex work is a is a respectable like

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate business.

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<v Speaker 2>And have you ever been to Amsterdam?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I thought you can ask me if I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>hired a prostitute.

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<v Speaker 2>In Amsterdam where sex work is legal. It's so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>But at seven o'clock in the morning, people are just

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<v Speaker 2>like there's the line of the rows that are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>men women in straight gay this that the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're walking past their little role their little rooms with

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<v Speaker 2>the little and it's all like regulated and measured and safe.

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<v Speaker 3>And like a transaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a transaction. What were we talking about Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys that that scandal doesn't seem like seem so vanilla

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right like the fact that that was a

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<v Speaker 1>scandal back then. Now it's like really like.

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<v Speaker 2>I love scandals of the times, though it does seem vanilla.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope all those Secret Service agents have found employment

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<v Speaker 2>since then, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Or have married some of their you know prostitutes, found

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<v Speaker 1>love perhaps, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, or now that they're unemployed they have lots of

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<v Speaker 2>free time to date.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, they don't have to pay for sex exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it brings up to the point of Harrison in

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<v Speaker 2>the season one where you know, when Abby's so fucking

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<v Speaker 2>mad at him about him that Stephen uses you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the dame to pay for sex mad all these the

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<v Speaker 2>madam exactly, and Harrison is like, well, like whatever, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all paying for it. I do it. You know, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's for dinners or nights out or take into the

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<v Speaker 2>movies or some fancy restaurant. I mean, it's the same bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>different day. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like there you have it, listeners, there you have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Scandals of the Time. Yes, Gladiators, we love you. This

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<v Speaker 2>oh three. And we've got guests coming out that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not coming up and out. I sort of mashed those

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<v Speaker 2>words both.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe some of them are coming out too, you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Akxana Bayoule coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Akxana Bayola, who I want to make a correction.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a Russian skater. She was a Ukrainian skater. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to but yes, and Olexana Bayoule and

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Hines, I hope are very happy to No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're we can have their We should have them

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<v Speaker 2>on talk about their wedding. We have exciting guests coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick with us, so much fun recapping of episodes, and

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be talking to all of your favorite

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