WEBVTT - Bowl Previews: Part 1 (12/11/2016) 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Come that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.200 a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.000 be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edo State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:13.640 Is that? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.800 Whoo whoom? 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.120 And Dan and Tie. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.400 Welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys and girls. My 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.440 name is Ty hilden Brand. I am joined as always 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.600 by my friend, my colleague and co host so many years, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.479 Dan Rubinstein. Don't forget to subscribe at iTunes dot com, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.960 slash Solid Verbal and find us on Twitter and Facebook 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.400 and Instagram and of course on Snapchat. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.240 Dan, how are you? I'm good. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.400 We can also add drinking pals. Yeah, that that list. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.680 I mean we haven't done it in a long time, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.360 but after the Pisman Trophy. During the Pisman Trophy, I 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.839 think drinking pals would be an appropriate bullet point to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.280 add to our collective resume. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.960 Got a little loose there afterwards. Gotta be honest with you. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.760 Travis Haney's a bad influence on me person, is he? 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.000 Yeah? 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.119 He liked drinking that heavy porter type beer, which doesn't 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.600 really work well with my stomach. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.319 Sure, but you know, held my own. I don't know. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.480 How do you feel yesterday? Not great? 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:11.679 Time. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.120 No, I'm not gonna lie as a non drinker or 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.800 somebody who drinks like one drink every five or six weeks. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.440 I think I had four Friday night at the Pisman. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.240 It was a really good time, had all sorts of 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.640 fun people there. So happy that Brian O'Neil from pitt 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.480 was able to take it home. Would have been happy 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.240 with all three of the candidates, Vincent Taylor, Colton Cook 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.319 taking home the hardware, the pie wear. Yeah, so that 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.640 was an incredible event. So many friends of Espionation and 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.319 the Solid Verbal were there. Everything was first class. Loved it. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.800 Ate myself sick, drank myself, not quite sick, but I 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.560 had four and that's a lot for old Aunt Dan. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.120 Four for you. Then we did the pizza thing afterwards. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.680 Yeah, we went got pizza with our pal Bill Barnwell 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.680 and talked to Emo some more talk. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.559 But yeah, it was a great time. Got to meet 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.040 some new people I had never met before. Chris Brown 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.320 from Smart Football was there, talked to him for a bit. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.359 Chip Patterson i met for the first time. I would 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:12.799 vote for Chip for president. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.680 Oh. Chip has like a gravitas when he walks in 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.040 a room, there's just a Warmth there. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.520 Great to meet him and some others who I'm sure 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.640 I'm forgetting and yeah, so thank you again for the invite. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:23.519 Yeah. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.320 And last night was the I guess, the second class 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.160 college football award. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.280 The Heisman, if you will. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.880 Yeah, I don't even I know Lamar Jackson wanted. I 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.160 honestly couldn't tell you the order of voting. Do you 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.960 have that in front of you? 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.320 I have it in front of me. It was I 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.600 thought a little closer than I expected. Lamar Jackson came 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.480 in first with twenty one and forty four points. Deshaun 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.840 Watson bubbled up. He came in second. He had fifteen 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.480 twenty four, So a sizable margin for sure between Lamar 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.720 Jackson and to Shawn Watson. But still I thought a 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.120 little bit closer than I expected. Baker Mayfield came in third, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.680 DeeDee Westbrook came in fourth, and then Jabroll Peppers finished 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.400 in fifth place. So you know, there was a pretty 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.640 big gap between two and three. It was pretty apparent 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.079 that voters favored Lamar Jackson and Watson above above the 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.200 other three who were in New York. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.720 Fair enough, like it's hard for me at this point 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.600 in twenty sixteen to get upset over the Heisman Trophy. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.519 It's by nature so arbitrary, So how do you get 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.560 upset about the finalists or whoever wins it based on 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.720 qualifications that are sort of unclear? So at this point 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.120 it's just sort of like, this guy's the most fun, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.200 and what makes them the most fun? Well, I mean, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.720 everybody has different definitions of fun. Who's to say. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.720 The reason that I watch it is not because again 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.040 I'm not going to go back through the diatribe about 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.800 how I feel about individual awards. The reason that I watched, though, 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.160 is just to see how they handle the broadcast. And 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.360 for me, it almost felt, and this is going to 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.560 sound crazy, I know, it almost felt like they were 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:05.400 trying to make the Heisman feel a little less pretentious, Like, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.680 you know, we we did this Pisman thing on Friday 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.480 night and it was clear that it was not taking 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:11.520 itself too seriously. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:13.040 The Heisman. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.080 It almost felt as if they tried to do a 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.080 little bit of that with the broadcast, and to me, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.479 it just felt disorganized compared to what I'm used to. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.400 That just it didn't quite pair up. But nonetheless a 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.800 great ceremony. Congratulations to Lamar Jackson, who incorporated every fashion 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.520 element in his attire. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.640 I thought he looked great. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.039 I thought he pulled it off too. He really did. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.000 The solid wife said the exact same man. He can 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.080 pull that off. And you know, a great story, a 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.400 great story. Congratulations to him in Louisville fans everywhere. It 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:44.440 was a remarkable season. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:45.080 Yeah. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.240 That's the cool thing is that a fan base gets 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.000 to celebrate something fun on a national stage. So even 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.599 though I find the heisman to be arbitrary and not 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.000 super exciting, it is cool for Louisville fans and obviously 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.279 for Lamar Jackson. So it's a happy, good thing in 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.160 college football. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.120 Good thing. Hooray. Okay. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.680 The other I guess heartwarming story, if you will call 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.159 it that from Saturday was that Army beat Navy. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.160 Army beat Navy after fourteen straight losses. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.039 Does that sound right? 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.159 Fourteen straight losses? They won the game twenty one seventeen 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.440 are trusted operative. Taylor Swink was down there. Yeah, and 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.640 we got some great reviews on what he put together 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.880 on snapchat. I can't wait to hear what he does 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.839 in audio form, which we'll play back on our Wednesday show. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.799 But yeah, it just seems like a really cool experience 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.080 to go down there. The tailgating scene was vibrant, and 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.400 you know, clearly Army capitalizes on this moment. It was 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.560 a good year for Army, their Bowl bound for the 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.560 first time in forever, to now beat their I don't 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.440 want to call them hated rival, but clearly their rival Navy. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.599 This is a pretty big way to cap a season. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:48.880 I am. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.360 I'm happy to see it. It's good that that's a 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.279 there's a back and forth with that game and Navy, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.200 even though they came in with a good amount of momentum. Listen, Ty, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.240 you know what you got to do in these big 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.640 rivalry games. We've told you to say it week out. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.440 Throw them right out, baby, gotta throw them out. You 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.440 got a little bit of breaking news these past few days. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.120 We had breaking. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:15.919 It looks like Charlie Strong is going to be the 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:16.960 next USF coach. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.000 Yeah, good, move, good higher. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:26.240 Very strong. Yes, he is going to recruit well, he 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.880 is going to do a lot of what Willy Taggart 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.920 did in sort of getting every single kid who might 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.080 be borderline USF UCF in state who you know, maybe 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.159 not getting the Miami Florida Florida State offers, but is 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.400 certainly of that caliber like Willy Taggert did at USF. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.600 I imagine he will improve that defense dramatically after it 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.760 took that one year dip without Tom Allen when he 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:51.120 went to Indiana. I imagine he will continue to delegate 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.360 offensively like he was able to do with some success 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:59.440 at Texas, and he will continue momentum there in Tampa. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.120 So I think I think it's a very smart hire. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:06.560 Unfortunately for USF, I imagine if he succeeds, he probably 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.320 won't be there for a terrible long time, but that's okay. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.120 Keep succeeding at USF, keep. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.040 Succeeding at USF. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.400 It's clearly a part of the country he's very familiar with, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.440 and I think that will play to his favor. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.040 So it was a good move for them. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:24.720 I also saw that speaking of geographical sense, yes, Cincinnati 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.960 hired Luke Fickel. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.920 Yeah, and I think, yeah, that makes good sense. He 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.920 obviously had the year of interim head coaching when Jim 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.240 Tressel left unexpectedly we'll call it. But he's been in 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.640 at Ohio State for some time now, is familiar geographically 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.040 with the region, Cincinnati took a huge step back this 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.040 past year on both sides of the ball. So if 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.440 nothing else, Luke Fickle will recruit talent to Cincinnati and 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.880 will get them competitive, I hope, because I like a 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.240 fun censey sooner rather than later, because they're a team, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.240 not unlike Houston, that is near talent and can be 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.200 dangerous to teams that perhaps have even more talents. So 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.160 rooting for Luke Fickle after a rocky time for a 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.480 little bit in Columbus so should be fun to see 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:10.200 sinc improve. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:10.640 Yeah. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.080 They called him the best fit for the position, and 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.040 I feel good for him, I really do. He seems 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.600 like an incredibly loyal guy who was just waiting for 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.920 the right opportunity to come around. And he's an assistant 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.000 coach that is widely respected for the work he's done. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.200 The interim year was tough. It was tough. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.080 He might not have been ready for that on the 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.600 stage like Ohio State, but I think he probably learned 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.520 a lot from it. And Cincinnati's getting a good guy, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:37.439 so good for them. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.559 It's a nice hire. I like it. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.040 Also major apple White at Houston. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.760 Yeah, so originally it sounded like it was going to 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.040 be lane Kiffin. There was a report out on Friday, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.480 I think later last week whenever it was that it 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.720 looked like lane Kiffin was going to get that job, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.440 and then it sounds as if things broke down, they 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.600 ultimately go to Major apple White instead. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.400 Yeah, Major apple White because of pending and ongoing litigation, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.839 was almost certainly not going to go with Tom Herman 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.439 to Texas because of his own time at Texas as 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.920 it relates to the litigation. But Major apple White somebody 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.280 who I think has improved his stock over the years. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.520 I know Alabama fans weren't huge fans of his when 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.960 he was their offensive coordinator in two thousand and seven, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.559 but that was a very different looking Alabama team early 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.439 on in Saban's tenure, and it seemed that Langkiffin didn't 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.880 have quite the support that Major apple woit had, especially 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.600 since apple White has the recruiting connections in East Texas 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.319 and Texas, and that it feels like a momentum play, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.000 which isn't always the best move. You just got to 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.959 find the best person and assume that they can generate momentum. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.240 But here we are, and Major apple White was I 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.199 would imagine a large part of Greg Ward's success at quarterback. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.400 So that was sort of the thinking behind Mark Helfrich 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.000 and the Oregon job. That continuity for Marcus Mariota, and 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.840 it worked in the short term and not necessarily the 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.120 long term. I hope it goes differently from major apple 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:01.959 White and Houston. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.120 I have to believe this is all trending in a 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.000 direction where lane Kiffin ends up at LSU or back 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:07.520 at Bama. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.760 I don't think lane Kiffin's back at Bama. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.439 No, no, I think that's done. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.560 And it appears that even Sark, who a lot of 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.160 people thought was the backup plan, that he may be 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.480 done in Bama as well. I'm not sure what Bama 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.240 does at offensive coordinator if and when Lane Kiffin leaves, 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.720 and the NFL could be an option for lane Kiffin 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.160 as an offensive coordinator. I saw our pal Travis Haney, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.440 who you mentioned is a bad influence, but a good 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.160 college football information influence. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.960 Great influence, yeah, great influence in terms of information. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.560 Yes, he thinks you know, It's just that that marriage 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.640 has run its course. Okay, Lane Kiff and Nick Saban 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.840 and Alabama, So it will be interesting to see where 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.640 he ends up, and it'll be interesting to see where 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.000 Alabama goes at offensive coordinator. If I would imagine Mark 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.600 Helfrich may be in the mix at LSU if that 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.320 doesn't work out for any of the former USC guys. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.560 Hey Mark Helfrich to Obama, I don't know, ma'am. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.719 That would be weird marriage. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:08.400 It would be a huge win for Alabama, especially matt A. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.880 Yeah, with a dual threat quarterback like Jalen Hurtz. Yes, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.520 Mark Helfrich has had success with that formula before, hasn't. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.840 He He has, And I think and Helfrich is somebody 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.200 who I've always liked as a human and who I've 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.960 always liked as a focus. Like he didn't run the 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.400 he co ran the offense with Ship Kelly at Oregon, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.880 and he is considered to be by everybody that's come 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:35.400 across him just like a like an extremely intelligent, smart 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.959 football mind. And at Alabama, where he's not going to 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.719 be required to run the day to day and he's 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.680 not going to be required to recruit with the same 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.720 level of intensity as a head coach somewhere so far 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.960 away from recruits as he was at Oregon, that would 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.600 be He'll be a huge win for whoever he ends up. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.480 With interesting and I think this all means that Les 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:53.760 Miles ends up with ESPN. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.480 Uh, that's what it appears. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.880 Yeah, he apparently the Houston interview didn't go super well, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.240 and that's good for us. I like hearing Les Miles speak. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:03.920 He's fun. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.320 He'd be terrific in any capacity on ESPN. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.000 Yeah, ESPN, even if he ends up at Fox Sports, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.440 which is certainly more Southwest and West Coast oriented, it'd 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.199 be whoever gets him, it'd be a great, great job. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.320 The only other tidbit I have, yeah, is on the 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.280 solid verbal front. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.959 Oh yeah, what else we got? 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:28.160 So? We have discussed this here and there. We've been 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.760 wanting to do a live gig up in New York 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.280 City for a while now, and we talked about doing 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.280 it at some point in December, but as these things go, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.480 it got tough to do in December. We are now 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.920 working on a postseason post mortem show the weekend following 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.360 the National Championship, so that'd be January fourteenth. We are 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.120 close to nailing down some sort of venue, Dan, Is 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.160 that accurate information. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.720 It's a great venue. There's food there, good food there, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.840 college football related food there where. We haven't signed anything. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.480 We haven't agreed with anything yet, but the conversations are 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.280 very good. January fourteenth, New York City, in sort of 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.520 downtown Midtown. It's sort of midtown ish, so it should 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.760 be pretty central for everybody in the general vicinity or 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.440 anybody coming from outside of the city. Extremely limited in 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.080 the way of seating, like probably it's sort of like 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:22.679 a I don't know if it's a live show as 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.200 much as a sort of live pow wow. So like 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.960 forty or fifty people somewhere in there. So when well, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.160 as soon as we nail down the details, we will 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.280 let you know. I would grab a ticket or two, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.480 and how we figure out how to do that is TVD. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.440 I would grab it as probably quickly as possible because 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.560 we're not renting out Radio City. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:42.520 No. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.320 No, not like the Verbies last year. Right, No, not 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.840 like the Verbis last year. That was I mean, everybody 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.680 came around for that. That was wonderful. But January fourteenth, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.920 New York City, it's going to be very, very fun 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.120 and with a lot of food. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.640 Stay tuned for more on that front. We promised to 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.240 make that available as soon as we can. I think 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.600 that does it for news Dan. I think so if 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:04.439 you're up for it. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.280 Shall we talk through the first wave of bowl games? 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.000 We had like four days off, yes, four days DA 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.520 time to help the week, all right, So listen, don't 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.040 forget to join the pick a pool. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:19.400 The links are out there. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.760 They're on Facebook and Twitter as well as soliverbo dot com. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.400 I have yet to do that, but okay, I will. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:25.000 I promise. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.200 We have had some people ask us about the rules 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.400 of a confidence pool. How does it work? Basically, you're 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.280 picking straight up winners. So you go through, take a pass, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.960 pick who you think is going to win each game. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.000 Then you go back and you rank each game from 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.520 one to forty two in terms of how confident you 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.800 are in the result. One is your least confident. Forty 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.400 two is the game you're most confident in. If you 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.880 win the game, that you put a forty two next 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.040 to that means that you get forty two confidence points. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.240 You add that to your score correct, and so on 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.440 and so forth. This year, I'm going to deploy a 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.840 new strategy East Coast Elliott, who you know mm hmm, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.800 was on the early infancy of this podcast. Wildly unreliable, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.120 just a total wildcard from top to bottom. Yes, I 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.440 manage a fantasy baseball team with East Coast Elliott a 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.360 total wildcard, believe me, But I love him and he's 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.280 better at bowl confidence pools than any human I've ever met. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.160 His strategy, I probably shouldn't be given this out. I 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.600 should probably charge like Wow nineteen ninety five for this 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.760 kind of advice. It's been so his strategy is to 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.520 front load your confidence points. The theory is that there's 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.800 a bigger disparity between teams at the smaller early bowls 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.200 than at like the later, bigger bulls that everybody knows. Okay, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.240 and trust me, it sounds kind of crazy, especially when 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.680 you put pen to paper, but literally every time he's 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.560 been in a bullpool like this, he's been top ten, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.200 and it sort of makes sense. There's a crazy genius 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.800 to it that feels like it could actually work. Every 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.400 online system, including the one that we're using over at ESPN, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.320 Every online system defaults to giving you those early games 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.560 with a lesser confidence rating, Elliott says. Elliott says, flip 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.320 the script, get all your points early. So it's it's 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.720 an interesting way to go at it. The caveat, though, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.960 is you got to pick the games right, right, Yeah, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.800 you don't pick the games right, and that's hard in 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:24.440 ball season. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.160 As you know the points right, you might as well 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.000 throw them out. Where's my sound? Throw the points breads, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.040 throw the records out. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.360 I'm I'm going to combine Elliott's formula with a little 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.680 bit of my own special sauce and it might come 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.120 in last. But my first consideration now when picking all 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.200 these bowl games is going to be which team I 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.440 think is more motivated to be there? Okay, you know, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.200 because these are all exhibition games, that sort of goes 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.200 in line with the gambling theory that like learn like 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.240 a ton about a smaller conference, like learn a ton 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.320 about the Mountain West because you know, perhaps bookmakers aren't 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.480 as and as detailed in following Mountain West football as 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.960 they are SEC football or ACC and setting line so 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.119 and there's probably not as much action coming in to 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.480 sway those lines. So exactly like that, So I want 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.400 to know which team is actually there because they want 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.240 to be there, and which team wants to win the game. Okay, 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.800 now you got to consider which which team was better 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.040 all season and if there are any matchups and all 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.200 that stuff, right that that sort of goes without saying. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.840 But I'm going to weigh motivation a little heavier this year. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.080 I'm just going to see what happens. So, okay, let's 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.880 start at the top. If you go through our Bowl 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.480 confidence pool, the first game that they list is actually 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.399 the Grambling State North Carolina Central Eagles game in the 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.080 Celebration Bowl. I'm not going to pretend to know a 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.520 whole lot about this, but ESPN does include it, and 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.919 they ought to assign it with a one because it's first. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.400 Most people aren't going to change it. I'm saying, go 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.520 forty two, Go forty two. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:58.080 I'm serious. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.120 Grambling is a historic program. Yeah, they're favored by fifteen 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.639 and a half points. They're probably gonna win. So what 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.640 if you don't know a whole lot about it. I'm 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.119 not so much gonna handicap this thing as if I 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.200 want to get every game right. I'm trying to help 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.840 people out there who might be in other Bowl confidence pools, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:16.840 even our own bullpool. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:18.000 I want you to win. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.800 So I'm saying, go Grambly, go forty two points, get 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.560 them early, get it off, get it off the board, bold, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:24.639 roll the dice. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.320 Okay, all right, you're on board with that. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.239 I'm totally on board. I like your bold thinking, Ty, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.680 I always have all right. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.080 So then that brings us to the Guild. In New 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.080 Mexico Bowl. They make a mean T shirt. Dan. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:36.960 Yes. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.800 And speaking of which, and I know you don't have 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.480 this on our document, but I have it in front 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:40.639 of me. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:41.800 I've got Bowl gifts. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.760 Oh cool, I've got all the Bowl gifts and we 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.520 will for each game that we preview, we will also 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:48.439 preview the gifts. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.879 Okay, So Guild in New Mexico Bowl, Albuquerque, New Mexico 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:56.960