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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Come that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edo State?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 4: name is Ty hilden Brand. I am joined as always

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Speaker 4: by my friend, my colleague and co host so many years,

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Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein. Don't forget to subscribe at iTunes dot com,

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Speaker 1: Dan, how are you? I'm good.

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Speaker 2: We can also add drinking pals. Yeah, that that list.

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Speaker 2: I mean we haven't done it in a long time,

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Speaker 2: but after the Pisman Trophy. During the Pisman Trophy, I

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Speaker 2: think drinking pals would be an appropriate bullet point to

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Speaker 2: add to our collective resume.

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Speaker 4: Got a little loose there afterwards. Gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Travis Haney's a bad influence on me person, is he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He liked drinking that heavy porter type beer, which doesn't

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Speaker 4: really work well with my stomach.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but you know, held my own. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel yesterday? Not great?

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Speaker 4: Time.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna lie as a non drinker or

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Speaker 2: somebody who drinks like one drink every five or six weeks.

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Speaker 2: I think I had four Friday night at the Pisman.

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Speaker 2: It was a really good time, had all sorts of

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Speaker 2: fun people there. So happy that Brian O'Neil from pitt

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Speaker 2: was able to take it home. Would have been happy

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Speaker 2: with all three of the candidates, Vincent Taylor, Colton Cook

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Speaker 2: taking home the hardware, the pie wear. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: was an incredible event. So many friends of Espionation and

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Speaker 2: the Solid Verbal were there. Everything was first class. Loved it.

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Speaker 2: Ate myself sick, drank myself, not quite sick, but I

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Speaker 2: had four and that's a lot for old Aunt Dan.

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Speaker 1: Four for you. Then we did the pizza thing afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went got pizza with our pal Bill Barnwell

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was a great time. Got to meet

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Speaker 4: from Smart Football was there, talked to him for a bit.

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Speaker 4: Chip Patterson i met for the first time. I would

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Speaker 4: vote for Chip for president.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Chip has like a gravitas when he walks in

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Speaker 4: Great to meet him and some others who I'm sure

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Speaker 4: I'm forgetting and yeah, so thank you again for the invite.

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Speaker 2: And last night was the I guess, the second class

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Speaker 1: The Heisman, if you will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even I know Lamar Jackson wanted. I

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Speaker 4: I have it in front of me. It was I

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Speaker 4: thought a little closer than I expected. Lamar Jackson came

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, like it's hard for me at this point

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Speaker 2: It's by nature so arbitrary, So how do you get

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Speaker 4: The reason that I watch it is not because again

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Speaker 4: That just it didn't quite pair up. But nonetheless a

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Speaker 4: great ceremony. Congratulations to Lamar Jackson, who incorporated every fashion

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Speaker 4: I thought he pulled it off too. He really did.

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Speaker 4: great story. Congratulations to him in Louisville fans everywhere. It

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Speaker 2: That's the cool thing is that a fan base gets

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Speaker 2: Army beat Navy after fourteen straight losses.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen straight losses? They won the game twenty one seventeen

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Speaker 4: are trusted operative. Taylor Swink was down there. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: This is a pretty big way to cap a season.

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Speaker 1: We had breaking.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think it's a very smart hire.

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Speaker 1: Succeeding at USF.

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Speaker 1: So it was a good move for them.

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Speaker 2: rooting for Luke Fickle after a rocky time for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Major apple White because of pending and ongoing litigation,

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Speaker 2: But here we are, and Major apple White was I

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Speaker 4: With interesting and I think this all means that Les

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Speaker 2: It's a great venue. There's food there, good food there,

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Speaker 3: We had like four days off, yes, four days DA

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Speaker 1: The links are out there.

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Speaker 4: They're on Facebook and Twitter as well as soliverbo dot com.

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Speaker 1: As you know the points right, you might as well

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Speaker 4: Grambling is a historic program. Yeah, they're favored by fifteen

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Speaker 1: I've got Bowl gifts.

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Speaker 1: Living in New York City.

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Speaker 4: For me, that outweighs the fact that this is the

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Speaker 4: Richard mccorley combined that crew rush for about twenty eight

441
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 4: hundred yards and thirty five touchdowns. So they're predamn good.

442
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 4: They're predamn good. That's what the TSA is going to

443
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: be up against. If UTSA wants to win, they got

444
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 4: to be better throwing the football. I just don't think

445
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: they're gonna have enough to get done here. Home game,

446
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 4: New Mexico. I like New Mexico to win this one.

447
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 4: I don't know about the points spread, but I got

448
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 4: forty one points on this dan.

449
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm going heavy New Mexico thirty one to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So New Mexico did something this year, and it sort

451
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Speaker 2: of might be, you know, swept under the rug. But

452
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: they did something spectacular and rare this year, and they

453
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: lost to Rutgers. New Mexico lost to Rutgers. They beat

454
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: Air Force in Wyoming, so there's something about this New

455
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: Mexico team, And you're right. Their rushing offense is great.

456
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Speaker 2: They're a top fifteen team in my D analytics.

457
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

458
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: D Analytics TI touchdowns per play against conference teams. Still,

459
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: they're top fifteen in the country in that and dead

460
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: last defensively in that. So they're sort of kill or

461
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: be killed. They have an awful pass defense, and yes,

462
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 2: you're right. UTSA is one of the most improved teams

463
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: Frank Wilson. His first year was really really good all

464
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: things considered. They improve offensively, ways to go defensively, but

465
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: they were very good in the red zone. So if

466
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: they can stop New Mexico there and for some field goals,

467
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: they will keep it relatively close. I thematically, I like

468
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: New Mexico, and since we're straight up in the Bowl

469
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Speaker 2: confidence pool, I'm gonna go with New Mexico. But I'm

470
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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna gobble those points up thirty four to thirty.

471
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Speaker 2: New Mexico. UTSA keeps it close. They sort of dead

472
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Speaker 2: end techs A and M a few weeks ago. I'm

473
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Speaker 2: going with New Mexico close.

474
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Speaker 4: By Saturday at six, Dan All, I'm saying is I

475
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: could have eighty three confidence points. Okay, locked and loaded,

476
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: just kind of me sitting on them, keeping them warm.

477
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Speaker 1: M hmm. I'm going forty two on.

478
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Speaker 4: Grambling, forty one on New Mexico, Bob Davey, I'll go Hi,

479
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: all right, Las Vegas Bowl also next Saturday, This one

480
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: at three point thirty on ABC.

481
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Speaker 1: This is a good game, it is. This is a

482
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: good game.

483
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 4: We got Houston at nine and three, San Diego State

484
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: at ten and three. Houston's a three and a half

485
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 4: point favorite. You might remember this one last year was

486
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: a rematch of the Holy War BYU won that one

487
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: by seven. I tried to analyze this using my new

488
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: formula of factoring in motivation. Right, I gotta believe that

489
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 4: Houston's in big time let down mode here.

490
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Speaker 2: No, I have been thinking the same thing, and Houston's

491
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: season is sort of deceptive. Beating Oklahoma, you know, using

492
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: turnovers and doing and taking advantage of opportunities, just completely

493
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: shutting down Louisville and losing to Navy, losing to Memphis,

494
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: losing to SMU. Houston finished, I believe, tied for third

495
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: in the American West. So their season was not as

496
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: dominant as Tom Herman's stock was through the roof, and

497
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. There are all sorts of factors here in

498
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: San Diego State won the Mountain West. Defensively, they were very,

499
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: very good for a good chunk of the season. They

500
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Speaker 2: have one of the best running backs in the country

501
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: and Donel Pumphrey one of the best pass defenses in

502
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: the un I think they'll be a little bit more

503
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: motivated to really good defenses here. I think Houston wants

504
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: the season to be done with and move on to

505
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: the major Apple White Era. I'm going San Diego State.

506
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to take those points because that's my thing.

507
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm taking those Bowl points. Twenty seven to twenty three

508
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: as techs.

509
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: I've got twenty eight to twenty four as techs. And

510
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: you know, you mentioned all the right things about Houston.

511
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: This game, to me feels like a huge consolation prize

512
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: for them because they were a fringe playoff team back

513
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: in August and nine and three is clearly short of

514
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 4: what they were hoping for. You also lose your coach

515
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: might have heard about that here and there some assistants already, yeah,

516
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: and some assistants. That's just a big kick in the pants.

517
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: If you're a Houston player. There's a chance Todd Orlando

518
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 4: is trying to, you know, make some bones for himself

519
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 4: elsewhere in putting forth a good effort in this game.

520
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: But I just feel like their heart's not going to

521
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 4: be in this I like Danelle Pumphrey lot They're not

522
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: great at throwing the ball, so they got to get

523
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: him moving and that might not be easy against a

524
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: really tough Houston front.

525
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: Excellent.

526
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: I feel like San Diego State's got more to play

527
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: for here. I am not confident in this result. So

528
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 4: contrary to what I was saying about getting your points early, yeah,

529
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: get them early, but don't be stupid. I'm going to

530
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: go San Diego State here twenty eight, twenty four, But

531
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm only going to say three confidence points in this game.

532
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: They are both playing for a gift suite, an Oakley backpack,

533
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: a beanie, and a cap. So the New Mexico Ball

534
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: showing out a little bit better than the Las Vegas

535
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Bowl early.

536
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Interesting.

537
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the caveat there is that you get to go

538
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: to Vegas versus Albuquerque, New Mexico.

539
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: You get to go to Vegas, which mixed opinion for me.

540
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: But we're going to get to that in the things

541
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: that are garbage that people like too much, bracket that

542
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: we're doing.

543
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: It's a long off season, yes it is. We will

544
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: get to it all right, Raycom Media Chamellia Ball. Oh, yes,

545
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: who doesn't remember their first Kamellia Bowl. Kamelia Bowl.

546
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

547
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: Watched it with my pappy and my Graham Pappy. Yeah.

548
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: It's at the Crampton Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama again. Next Saturday,

549
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 4: the seventeenth of December on ESPN five thirty Eastern Toledo

550
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: at nine to three, a one point favorite over app

551
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: State Dan. They're also nine to three. I distinctly remember

552
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: our Week one recap show when we go back over

553
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: that Tennessee App State game and.

554
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: Apps State should have won that game, tie, and you.

555
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 4: Know it, Tennessee one, twenty to thirteen. They looked like garbage,

556
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: and at the time we didn't know it was going

557
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: to be a sign of things to come.

558
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

559
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 4: But I remember thinking that the big takeaway from that

560
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: game had to be how lousy Tennessee looked, how lousy

561
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: and just ugh they looked in that game. And then

562
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: you started talking on the recap show and it's like

563
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 4: full throttle App State. App State, it's good they could

564
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: win the national championship.

565
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: Really caught me off guard. Uh huh.

566
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: The takeaway now is yes, App State is pretty good.

567
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: Maybe not as good as it made them out to be.

568
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 4: But the three losses this year were to take to

569
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: See Miami and Troy. For the most part, no one

570
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: else came close to beating them. Akron fought him for

571
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 4: like four quarters, but it was It was one of

572
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: those catchup games. The challenging this game is going to

573
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 4: be Toledo quarterback Logan Woodside. H He is the official

574
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: quarterback of the Solid Verbal, as you've noted on Twitter.

575
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, his stats are insane thirty eight hundred passing

576
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: yards to go along with forty three touchdown passes. The

577
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: point spread here is one Dan kind of a pick

578
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: them who you got.

579
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm going with app State and I'm going with app State.

580
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking those points and I have them outright. Toledo does.

581
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, the official quarterback of the Solid Verbal,

582
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Logan Woodside that Toledo. The Rockets have a top thirty offense,

583
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I would somewhere around there in the country, top thirty

584
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: thirty five. Their defense is a little bit average. App

585
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: State number one tie the number one defense in the

586
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: D analytics touchdowns allowed per play against conference teams. What

587
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: does that mean? What does that stat mean? It's it's

588
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: the number of touchdowns they allow per play. So I

589
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: judge a defense by how many touchdowns they all out

590
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: and how many plays and they don't allow touchdowns tie,

591
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: and it's it's very good.

592
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: So the D analytics are conclusive on this.

593
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: Then the D analytics are conclusive. This is against conference teams.

594
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: So for app State, this is against sen but Sun

595
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: Belt teams, which is a different animal. But you saw

596
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: them perform pretty well against Tennessee and not the greatest

597
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: against Miami, but whatever. They've allowed three touchdown passes app

598
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: State since October first six of the last eight teams

599
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: they've played, they've held quarterbacks under five yards per attempt.

600
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: So I really like the matchup just in general, the

601
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: push and pull of Logan Woodside against this defense. I'm

602
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna go with the defense as the most extreme good

603
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: thing here. Toledo doesn't generate enough turnovers and they're playing

604
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: against the tricky app State offense. I'm going with app State.

605
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with my boys from Boone.

606
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: Twenty eight, twenty four, twenty eight to twenty four. I

607
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: like the boys from Boone. I like that, by the way,

608
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: that's good, thank you.

609
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

610
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: Thirty five twenty eight. I'm not nearly as confident in

611
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: this because it is a pretty even mac, at least

612
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: on paper, so I'll go ten confidence points. But to

613
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: your point about app State's defense, the pass defense is

614
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: pretty good according to Bills Bill Connolly's S and P

615
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: plus fourteenth in the country against the past, which is

616
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 4: a lot better than most people would ever care to know.

617
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: And on the whole, I'd say, if you look at

618
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: how they've played defensively throughout the course of the year,

619
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: defense is just a lot more consistent. You know, it's

620
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: not it's not bottoming out in spots like we saw

621
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: with Toledo. So, like I said, not crazy confident, but

622
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: I do like app State outright, the alma mater of

623
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein. App State ten points, ten points, thirty five

624
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: twenty eight. Let's go AP State.

625
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: They're playing for access to a gift suite. I mean

626
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: they're both getting this give suite fossil watch, which I

627
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: respect the hell out of a watch. You know, it's

628
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: it's you can use it for years and years. It

629
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: serves a purpose. A coin, don't know what coin. I'm

630
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: assuming a commemorative one, but maybe they're just handing them

631
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: all sackage away as I don't know. Hat a beanie,

632
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: a duffel bag made by your friend and mine oesio. Yeah,

633
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: and a big game autograph football So thanks for that, chamelliable.

634
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of watches, Dan, yeah, holiday shopping can be tough.

635
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah can, but thanks to MVMT watches, that gift

636
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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 4: Remember they only start at ninety five bucks. We've talked

641
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Speaker 4: about our MVMT watches. Did you have yours on during

642
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,520
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643
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Speaker 2: At the Pizon? Absolutely I did.

644
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Speaker 1: I thought I saw it.

645
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you had it again. They start at ninety

646
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Speaker 4: five bucks. You go to a department store, I mean

647
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Speaker 4: four or five hundred bones for one of these guys.

648
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,360
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649
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650
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Speaker 4: for yourself, you decide you don't like it, send it

658
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Speaker 4: back free returns. It's a pretty good deal. Again, it's

659
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Speaker 4: a clean design. We have gotten compliments ever since we

660
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Speaker 4: started putting them on. Now is the time to step

661
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Speaker 4: up your watch game. Go to mv mtwatches dot com

662
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Speaker 4: slash solid and join the movement.

663
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Speaker 1: All right. The AutoNation Cure.

664
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Speaker 2: Bowl, Yeah, Robert Smith will be singing the national anthem really.

665
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Of the cure and the cure. Very good, very good.

666
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

667
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: Next Saturday, five point thirty CBS Sports Network. So it

668
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: could be a crazy game.

669
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

670
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: This one's in Camping World Stadium in Orlando, Florida. It

671
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: is UCF at six and six, a six point favorite

672
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: over the Arkansas State red Wolves at seven and five.

673
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: Two big things here that jump out at me first

674
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: and foremost, another home game situation. UCF plays their home

675
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: games like on the other side of Orlando, which means

676
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: they can sleep in their own beds, they can move

677
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: more at their own pace, they can play in front

678
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: of their own fans. Nice little prize here, I think

679
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: for the UCF following, because there is a UCF following,

680
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: they're very sure, very fervent, and I think this is

681
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: a nice prize for them, especially given the fact that

682
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: UCF was zero to twelve last year. I thought that's

683
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: the other factor here. Talk about a turnaround. Talk about

684
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: it just meaning more. How much does this game mean

685
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: to them, especially at home, Dan, It just means more time,

686
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: It just means more. They've also got your boy Scott Frost,

687
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: they do, you see ye.

688
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: So even even with Scott Frost, who obviously comes in

689
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: with offensive experience putting up some big numbers at Oregon

690
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: these past few years, the Knights are led by their defense.

691
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: They are.

692
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of easy to argue that they're

693
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: the most improved defense in the country because they went

694
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: from being atrocious in twenty fifteen to pretty good, like

695
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: top thirty thirty five defense in the country in twenty sixteen.

696
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: They're decent against the run. They're very impressive against the

697
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: past and tie. Let's let's create a space right now,

698
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: what do you know about Shaqem Griffin and how much

699
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: is getting to the quarterback?

700
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Tie?

701
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: You tell me break down Shaqem Griffin's game because he's

702
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I think top ten in the nation in Sackfury's game

703
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: and good, he's good, He's very good. The Red Wolves

704
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: of Arkansas State, they start out on four. They finished

705
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: seven and one a completely lights out defense, so two

706
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: good defense is in here. They're up there with that state,

707
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: and the analytics tie. One point nine to nine percent

708
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: of all plays are touchdowns, which is pretty efficient. That

709
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: is pretty efficient. And they throw the ball relatively well

710
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: because us UCFC has made struggles the ball struggles on

711
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: offense to move the ball. I'm actually going even though

712
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: it's on the road, even though it's in Orlando, I'm

713
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: one Arkansas State out right, twenty three to twenty road.

714
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: Wooa, whoa. Yeah.

715
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: If you look at the S and P report for UCF,

716
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 4: it's sort of beyond rational comprehension.

717
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: How U see F scores at all?

718
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, give it a good look, give it a

719
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: good look, and try to come away from that little

720
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: study session figuring out how you CEF is scoring their points.

721
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: Just in general, there's like no tendency there. It doesn't

722
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: seem like there are enough points on the stat sheet

723
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: to indicate a six and sixteen, but nonetheless, Okay, we're here.

724
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: I am rolling the dice on your boy, Scott frost in.

725
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: Wow, my boy in the dice, and I'm gonna sweat

726
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: this one out to the tune of thirty five confidence points.

727
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm game.

728
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: You know my strategy. I'm in it to win it

729
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: this year. Thirty five points.

730
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: I think they like right, you're just abandoning your theory

731
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: of going against your gut. Though it's a new me,

732
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: it's a new you. Speaking of new things, sports watch,

733
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: warm up jacket and pants, portable charger, which you know what,

734
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: I love that singing.

735
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: That might be the best gift yet.

736
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: I love that drive fit, long sleeve shirt and a backpack.

737
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: I like a sports watch, a dry fit shirt, a

738
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: portable charger, and a backpack. You're not coming away from

739
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: the uh from the Cure Bowl empty handed. I'm with it.

740
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 4: If you've got anything like more than two versions back

741
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: of the iPhone, you need a portable charger. If you're

742
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: listening to this like you've definitely thought to yourself, where's

743
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: the portable charger I bought two years ago because I

744
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: need it my batteries.

745
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: I would I would go as far as saying, get

746
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: somebody like the best portable charger, like one of those

747
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: that's the size of a flask. And none of these

748
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: companies sponsor our show. This is just a right get

749
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: up to somebody for their wedding. They might be going

750
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: on a honeymoon right after the fact, and it has

751
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: like four or five six charges on her. You might

752
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: remember a gravy boat. You're definitely gonna remember how great

753
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: a charger is in your life.

754
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: I know what I'm getting you, Yes, all right? RNL

755
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: Carriers New Orleans Ball also next Saturday. Next Saturday a

756
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: busy Bowl day. Yep, not high profile games, but fun games.

757
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: I think Sons could be a lot of fun. This

758
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: is the nightcap. It's in the New Orleans Superdome, nine

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: pm ESPN. Southern miss At six and six is a

760
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: three and a half point favorite over Louisiana Lafayette also

761
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: six and six DAN two teams here who actually became

762
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 4: Bowl eligible in their final games. They've played fifty times

763
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 4: in their history. Southern Miss leads the series. They've won

764
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: the last eight. Here, Southern Miss, I feel is a

765
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: really good play and here's why. Okay, they would have

766
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: had a better record if not for the fact that

767
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: they lost their quarterback, Nick Mullins late in the year.

768
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: He got injured against Charlotte. He was unable to play

769
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: the next two games right there. That's three of your

770
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: six losses. And then another loss came when he got

771
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: injured earlier in the season against Utsa. We talked about

772
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: UTSA before. Listen to the blurb here from the Sun Herald.

773
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: It's a newspaper in Southern Mississippi talking about how tough

774
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: their quarterback Nick Mullins was in that game against UTSA.

775
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 4: All right, you're ready for this. I want to sit down.

776
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: After Mullins jogged over to the sideline favoring his right hand,

777
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: Jay Hopson, their coach, wandered over to check on him.

778
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Quote he had a bone sticking through his thumb. Hopson said,

779
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: with a look of disbelief. I remember I saw the

780
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: bone pop out, and he said, Uh, just push the

781
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: bone back in and tape it up. I think I

782
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: can throw the ball.

783
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: Wow Mullins for president nanjeez, Yeah, talk about a buller.

784
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 4: He's going to be in this game unless I miss something,

785
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: unless he's hurt again. I'm going to go Southern Miss.

786
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get saucy with it, Dan to it, I'm

787
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: going to live dangerous. Tweet me if you like to

788
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: live dangerously.

789
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: Tweet if you know what time it is. Tweet me

790
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: if you're with me and going thirty six points on

791
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: Southern miss to win this one out.

792
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: Right, I'm actually pretty confident as well, and you're right

793
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: about Nick Mullins, super tough. Their offense has been pretty decent,

794
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: especially through the air. Southern MISSUS defense has been kind

795
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: of atrocious, and it's a weird matchup because Louisiana Lafayette.

796
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: We love Mark Hudsbeth, but their offense has been atrocious

797
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: and the defense, especially against the run, has been good,

798
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: but that's not a great matchup against Southern Miss. I

799
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: think the Eagles win comfortably. I have at thirty four

800
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 2: to seventeen, So I'm totally great with your confidence level.

801
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: Thank you, and means a lot to me.

802
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: The New Orleans Bowl kind of a disappointing gift ball. Yeah,

803
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: I know, I wish it were better. Maybe they're gonna

804
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: eat really, really well and that'll make up for a

805
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: gift suite and fossil watch. That's all I'm seeing here.

806
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: Come on RNL carriers.

807
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Dan New Orleans versus Las Vegas. Oh, New Orleans.

808
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: It's not New Orleans, by the way, time it's I

809
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: know it's New Orleans.

810
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: New Orleans. New Orleans is another world ahead. I would

811
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: agree with that.

812
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: There's culture, not that there's not culture in Vegas, but

813
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: there's fun culture, more authentic culture. And the food is

814
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: you don't have to spend a ton of money in

815
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: New Orleans to have great food. I think it's way

816
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: way better.

817
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: All right. Moving on to Monday.

818
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: Now, yes, Monday, So Saturday you get your fill of

819
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: I don't know how many Bowl games.

820
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: That was five games. Maybe Sunday's off.

821
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: It's for the NFL, So do something else and then

822
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: go back Monday afternoon two thirty on ESPN. Let's go

823
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: to Miami. Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Florida, Marlins Park. Tulsa

824
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 4: is sitting there an eleven point favorite at nine to

825
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: three for Central Michigan. Central Michigan is at six and six. Damn,

826
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: I want you to do something for me in front

827
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Speaker 4: of a computer.

828
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I am so.

829
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 4: I decided to look up central Michigan on a map.

830
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: They are not kidding when they say central Michigan. Pull

831
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: up Google Maps, Mapstock, Google dot Com.

832
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: Let me know when you talk that the yep open.

833
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: I want you to find Michigan.

834
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I know where it is.

835
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: Now move your cursor to what you would consider to

836
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: be the middle of the state, the Mitten part of

837
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: the state, not the Upper Peninsula, but the real, the

838
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: real Mitton part of the state. Put your cursor where

839
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: you think where you think the the middle point of

840
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: the Mitton is.

841
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in Isabella Township, Michigan.

842
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: Now zoom in all right, mm hmm, that's Mount Pleasant.

843
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: You see Mount Pleasant on there?

844
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's right by Isabella Township.

845
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 4: Welcome to Mount Pleasant, Michigan, population twenty six thousand, home

846
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: of the Chippewas.

847
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I was pretty close. I'm saying it's a

848
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: very literal central Michigan.

849
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: Oh good, I thought you had a bone to pick. No,

850
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: no bones, I'm just saying they were. They were very

851
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: astute and thoughtful in putting Central Michigan in Mount Pleasant, Michigan.

852
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're hanging out at Deerfield Nature Park or

853
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Union Charter Township like Isabella obviously very popular with people

854
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: in Wideman, Nottawa, which, by the way, Rose Bush, all

855
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: sorts of great places around here.

856
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Uh okay, onto football. Yes, you may remember that

857
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: Central Michigan quote unquote beat Oklahoma State and that crazy

858
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: play play that probably shouldn't have happened. That's really the

859
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: nicest thing I can say about them all year, other

860
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 4: than to say, other than to say, I'm sure Mount

861
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: Pleasant's a very nice town, Tulsa is demonstrably better.

862
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Tulsa being they're extremely balanced in that

863
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: they have a very good offense, pretty decent defense. They

864
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: have two thousand yard rushers and James Flanders and Dangelo Brewer.

865
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: You had a bunch you wanted to say about those,

866
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: the tandem, right, Yeah, of course, James Flanders and Angelo Brewer.

867
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Dane Evans is decent. Philip Montgomery has been a growing

868
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: name at head coach Miil, perhaps getting a better job

869
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: after his time at Baylor and now succeeding with Tulsa,

870
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: and I you're right, I don't.

871
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: What does what do the Chippawas do? Well?

872
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: What are they efficient at doing? I don't see it.

873
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Golden Hurricane, real big here thirty

874
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: eight thirteen. I think they cover it comfortably.

875
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: Thirty eight thirteen. Yeah, I'm gonna go nuts here. I'm

876
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: gonna say Tulsa wins, and I'm gonna go forty points.

877
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: Front loading. We're front loading again, that's what we're doing.

878
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I want to have. I want to have hundreds of

879
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: points by the end of the weekend.

880
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: You can front load in your under armour backpack. You

881
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: can load it up with a hat and sunglasses. I

882
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: slide sandals portable power bank, which I assume that's something

883
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: similar to the charger. Yeah, okay, a beach paddle set

884
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: and a football. And here's something even though we can't

885
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: really find anything terribly good about Central Michigan and we

886
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: like Tulsa, it's going to be in the twenties or

887
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: thirties next week in Tulsa. It's going to be in

888
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: the teens in Mount Pleasant. So always happy that, you know,

889
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: guys who've worked hard all year gets a reward. They

890
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: go to Miami Beach. You don't end up in like, listen,

891
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: we love you Montgomery, I think, but it's it's good

892
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: tend up in Miami Beach.

893
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: All right, two games left here, let's move quickly. Yes,

894
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: the Boca Ratone ball in Boca Raton, Florida. They play

895
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: it at Fau's Stadium Tuesday. This one's twelve twenty so

896
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: December twentieth at seven pm and ESPN Western Kentucky ten

897
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 4: and three.

898
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: They are four and a half.

899
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: Point favorites against Memphis, who is now eight and four. Dan,

900
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 4: I am super torn here.

901
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Why is that.

902
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 4: Western Kentucky is legitimately good? Yes, they're legitimately good. They

903
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 4: lost to Alabama, Vandy and Louisiana Tech, but they also

904
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: just lost their coach they did, so who knows where

905
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: their heads are at. They're also going to be led

906
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: by Nick Holeton. Remember Colt Nicolet Nickole Nickolet's going to

907
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: be in charge.

908
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

909
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: Memphis I think is really good and they should not

910
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: be taken lightly. Mike Norville took over, you'll remember for

911
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: Justin Fuente just after they lost Paxton Lynch to the NFL,

912
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: and they're still scoring almost forty a game. They beat

913
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: Houston to close out the year. This is a good team,

914
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: and so I'm kind of torn between Western Kentucky being

915
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: I think really good versus them maybe not being fully

916
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: in it, primarily because they lost Jeff Brohm.

917
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: So Western Kentucky leads the nation and offensive analytics, so

918
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: there's that touchdowns per play and especially impressed of considering

919
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: that a first year quarterback Mike White, total stud Do

920
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: you know who Mike White's backup is at Western Kentucky?

921
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: Who's that?

922
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: He is one of those quarterbacks who is like I

923
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: think he may have been enrolled at like four different

924
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: schools including Penn State. Tyler Ferguson. Yep, remember Tyler Ferguson

925
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: see that?

926
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Yep, you're right.

927
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing about Western Kentucky that's pretty rare.

928
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: I think Washington may be the only other team to

929
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: do this Western Kentucky. The Hilltoppers are number one on

930
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: offense and defense and yards per play and yards per

931
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: play allowed. That's very difficult when you have such a

932
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: prolific offense and the defense needs to rotate in a

933
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 2: bunch of guys number one on both sides of the ball.

934
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: In Conference USA, Memphis, as you mentioned, a decent enough offense.

935
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm sort of underwhelmed by their defense. I have a

936
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: thirty seven to twenty Hilltoppers even with nicklet Okay.

937
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: I think a lot of points nice, I think you

938
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: shoot out.

939
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: I am going to stick to my template.

940
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: I think the game just means more to Mike Norvial

941
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 4: just means more in Memphis in his first year at coach.

942
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: I love me the Hilltoppers, but it hurts to lose

943
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: a coach.

944
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Yes it does.

945
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 4: Memphis wins outright, forty five, forty two. I am not

946
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 4: confident in this, so I shall wager two. You shall

947
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: wait two points in this, Dan, but I'm gonna go back.

948
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm not right.

949
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: I have this as this is God dang it. Marmott,

950
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Boca ratone bowl, gift suite and quotquote other items, other items.

951
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: So what aga bowl of applejacks? I don't understand what that's.

952
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: That's rough that you got to publicize better than that, Marmott.

953
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: All right, and then finally, Dan, let's go to the

954
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: San Diego County Credit Union Points Setia Bowl. They play

955
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: this one in San Diego at Qualcomm Stadium. It's on Wednesday,

956
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: December twenty first, at nine o'clock PM, it's on ESPN.

957
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 4: It's BYU at eight and four. They're an eight point

958
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: five point favorite over eight and five Wyoming. Dan, I'd

959
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: like to harken back to nineteen eighty one, the year

960
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: of my birth. Mind you, oh wow, a famous Lavelle

961
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: Edwards quote after losing to Wyoming at a snowstorm. He said, quote,

962
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: I'd rather lose and live in Provo than win and

963
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: live in Laramie.

964
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Which I do believe. I do believe counts as them

965
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: be and fighting words. Dan, Oh, absolutely, Yeah.

966
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: BYU's offense not particularly impressive, but they were in pretty

967
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: much every game. They finished the season strong against the

968
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: weaker part of their schedule, but they were tough. They

969
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: played West Virginia tough. They beat Mississippi State, they beat

970
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: Michigan State. So this is a BYU team to be

971
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: reckoned with. Particularly on defense, Wyoming is sort of the opposite.

972
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Their offense is really good. I really like the job

973
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Brian Hill did in the backfield for the Cowboys, But

974
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: defensively Wyoming has they have some struggle in them. So

975
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go with BYU here. I

976
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: think I can just count on BYU a little bit

977
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: more Wyoming was two up and down, especially in the

978
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: back half of the season, the big win over Boise

979
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: State and then a couple of bad losses after that.

980
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to go with in the point spread here,

981
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: it's like eight and a half, eight and a half, Yeah,

982
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: eight and a half for BYU. I'm going to take

983
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: the points. I think it's going to be a bit

984
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: of a shootout because I'm not a fan of either

985
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: one of these teams in terms of keeping the other

986
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: down for a terrible long time.

987
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: So I'm going to.

988
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: Say thirty five thirty three BYU. So I'm going to

989
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: take those points. My boy, Craig Bowl, who's had his

990
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: shape like the inside of the Oregonelle.

991
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a nice year for both these teams.

992
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 4: It was really easy to lose track of BYU because

993
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: they started one to three, lost to Utah and UCLA

994
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: and West Virginia. But you got to remember this was

995
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 4: an entirely new coaching staff, a lot of first timers,

996
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: including the head guy, Kalanie Sataki. I really think he

997
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: did a great job. He finished the year after that

998
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 4: rough stretch, finished out seven to one. The one loss

999
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: was against Boise and it was one pointer and truthfully

1000
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: a game they had no business being in because they

1001
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: turned it over like five times, got wildly outgained, but

1002
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: they fought, and that's what I like about him. Craig

1003
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: Boll you mentioned him had a shot at a ten

1004
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: win season, but dropped the last two to New Mexico

1005
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: and San Diego State.

1006
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: I think BYU should be able to run all over Wyoming.

1007
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: I think they should be able to I'm pretty competition

1008
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: in it. I also think it will be an overwhelmingly

1009
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: pro BYU crowd, just because it's closer and because BYU's

1010
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: got a loyal fan base.

1011
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

1012
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm reasonably confident, not overly, but reasonably. I think BYU wins.

1013
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: I'm going thirty two confidence points on BYU. Here Dan Wow, Okay,

1014
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: and that's.

1015
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: All I got.

1016
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: I should point out that if you're interested in going

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1051
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Speaker 2: It's real fun. I've used it and love it. So

1052
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Speaker 2: that's all I got, Dan, That's all I have. I think,

1053
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Uh had a great time seeing you, you too for

1054
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: really the first time socially. I mean we sort of

1055
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: hung at your wedding but never really had a chance

1056
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: to just really break bright and get to know each other.

1057
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: So it's great.

1058
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: And you got to do the same with the Salt fiance,

1059
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: so she's terrific. Yeah, a lot of fun. Uh, I'm

1060
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: trying to think what else. I mean, I have a

1061
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 2: literal and figurative pismen hangover still okay, and I'm about

1062
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: to go get some wabos. Friand cheris right now.

1063
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 4: Weevos rancheros, weevos. All right, Dan, Well, this is fun.

1064
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: We're going to be We're going to be back on

1065
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 4: Wednesday again. We'll publish a new show, we'll talk about

1066
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: the next wave of Bowl games and again get in

1067
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 4: on the bull confidence pool. We've got links everywhere we've

1068
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: explained how it works. We're going to continue to break

1069
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 4: games down in a manner that is somewhat relevant to

1070
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: the bull confidence pool. Give you some tips here and there,

1071
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: however we can and do. Stay tuned for more information

1072
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: on the live show if you're.

1073
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: Gonna be January fourteenth in.

1074
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: The New York City area. Yeah, we'll post information as

1075
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: it becomes available. And intimate gathering if you will, of verballers,

1076
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 4: and we'll do a little post mortem on the twenty

1077
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: sixteen seventeen season.

1078
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Speaker 2: Food, Adult Beverages, A cool little space, Tie and his

1079
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: radiant energy, me with my sometimes cool, sometimes not so

1080
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Speaker 2: cool energy, and it's gonna be a great time. We're

1081
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: gonna do it up.

1082
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: Do it up, all right, for that guy there, Dan Rubinstein,

1083
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: for myself, Tie Hilton Brand, Thanks again for tuning into

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Speaker 4: slash solid

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Speaker 1: Verbal, Enjoy your week and stay solid Peace.