1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy. My name is Kat and I'm the host. 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Here quick little reminder before we get started. Yes, this 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: podcast is called You Need Therapy, but this and itself 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: is not therapy. It is just a resource. So I 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: was thinking about how, like I started this career. I 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: started being a therapist a long time ago, Like I 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: went to school when I was twenty two, started my 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: internship when I was like twenty three, and I just 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: started thinking about like how I started, and then like 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: what I've learned along the way. And it's so funny 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: because when you start being a therapist, you can't just 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: know all of the things that you're going to know 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: that eventually make you into the kind of therapists that 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you are, like evolve you into the kind of therapist 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: you are. You have to just start with what you 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: know and learn along the way. And you start with 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the information and the trainings you do in school, and 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: that's so important, But you learned so much by experience 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: and being a human, and you can only learn so 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: much in the classroom. I mean, definitely helps you need 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: to go to school, But if you want to be 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: a therapist. Um, but it's not the only part. So 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: what I started to do and I made this like 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: super long list, is I started to write down all 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: of the things that I have learned like along the way. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: So I started making like a Google doc that just 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: basically it was like quotes or just like messages or 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: hard truth or just myths and stuff like that, like 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: things I've learned along the way that have been really 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: helpful and kind of helped evolve me into the kind 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: of helper I am. And some of them took nine 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: years to figure out, and some took like thirty days 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: and clicked immediately. Some makes sense and at the same 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: time or very hard to still like sit inside of 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: your soul like you can know them, but it's hard 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: to like feel know them. And this list is like 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: fifty six pages long. So I wanted to do an 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: episode where I kind of talked about this list, but 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: that would be too much. It would just maybe like 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: reading those things, and so I don't think that'd be helpful. 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: So I decided to pick fifteen. They're not necessarily the 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: top fifteen. I don't think you can rank this stuff, 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: but they're just important ones that I just chose So 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: some of the stuff I've talked about on here, some 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: of it I have not. It's a little bit of 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: a mixed bag. So let me present to you fifteen 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: things being a therapist has taught me so far. Number one, 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: it's not always about you. Yeah, this one is so 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: hard to actually believe sometimes, but so freaking powerful when 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: you do. Usually we are born this like insanely ecocentric 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: being like, that's just how we are in the early 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: stages of development. Being ecocentric is like the very normal 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: tendency or or way that a child sees everything as 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: it all relates, and and it's happening to them. It's 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: not like being selfish, it's just not You don't have 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the ability to like under stand how the world works yet. 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: And as we move through life, we're supposed to grow 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: out of this, and we're supposed to develop this ability 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: to see that like other people's behavior isn't always revolving 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: around us, but it doesn't always happen. And then what 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: does happen is we can find ourselves saying over and 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: over again things like what's wrong with me? Why am 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I not enough? Why wasn't I enough? Why was I 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: too much? What could I have done better? And the 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: reality is these are all irrelevant because often the behavior 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of others has very little to do with us, and 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: we just can't stop making it about us. Now. Often 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: this can happen as a result of childhood trauma maybe 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: needs be it emotional, physical, any of that aren't met consistently, 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: or you grow up in chaos, or a family member 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: leaves or a family member dies when you're still in 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: that like natural state of ecocentric nous and as a 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: small child or adolescent, we just naturally think these things 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: are because of us. And if that belief isn't addressed, 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: then it just becomes like a screen, which I've talked 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: about the screens on this podcast a lot, So it 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: becomes kind of like a lens that we see the 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: world through and it actually is not accurate. So when 80 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: we do develop and we do adopt the truth that 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: like not everything is about us, our world has the 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to just like change dramatically. So number one, it's 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: not always about you. Number Two, there's a lot of 84 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: bad in the world and they're still good. The trick 85 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: is allowing yourself to see both. And oh my gosh, 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: my first couple of years working as a therapist, I 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: got like emotionally beat up. I found myself stuck in 88 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: this spot of do I become jaded by life? And 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: do I just think the world is evil? And do 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I just like take on this hardened outlook on humanity 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: or is there like another option? I would like there 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: to be another option, but I'm leaning towards like become 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: jaded by life. And I found myself in the spot 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: where like I didn't really know how to survive and 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: like enjoy being in our world. I was doing that 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: thing where like you see something and basically it's all 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: you pay attention to, so then it's all you see, 98 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: and then you just think that you see more of 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: it because it's all you see, But really it's because 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: you're just paying attention to one thing. So we do 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: it to ourselves. And the truth is there's a lot 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: of like fucked up ship in the world, like a lot, 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: but that's not all there is. And I cannot take 104 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: away the bad. We cannot take away the bad. We 105 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: can't get rid of that. But me thinking that the 106 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: world is just forever evil robs me of the ability 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: to experience that this is not the whole story. There 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: is good in the world, we just have to be 109 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: brave enough to see it. Number three. Not everything can 110 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: be fixed and not everything deserves fixing. Yeah, so this 111 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of speaks to itself. Humans have a hard time 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: sitting in discomfort. I think we've definitely decided that here 113 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and it can be super uncomfortable to 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: have broken relationships, broken anything. Often relationships and things break 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: because they just don't work together. So not everything can 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: be fixed and not everything deserves fixing. Number four, we 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: would all be very lost without Alley moments. Now. I 118 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: know this one is very cliche, but also it's not wrong. 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: This always reminds me of the part in The Glass Castle, 120 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: which was a book that I had to read an undergrad, 121 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and I kind of want to read it again because 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: how freaking good it is. But there's this part in 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the Glass Castle where they're talking about the Joshua tree, 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna read a little like it's like 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: two sentences from the book. One time I saw a 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: tiny Joshua tree sapling growing not too far from the 127 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: old tree. I wanted to dig it up and replant 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: it near our house. I told mom that I would 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: protect it from the wind and water every single day 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: so that it could grow nice and tall and straight. 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Mom frowned at me, you'd be destroying what makes it special, 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: she said, it's the Joshua trees struggle that gives it 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: its beauty. Oh, and I just love it because if 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: you know what Joshua tree is, it's those like windy, 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 1: twiny and like twirly things, and like they're so freaking cool, 136 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: and it's so true like the struggle that that gives 137 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: it it's beauty. Without the struggle, it wouldn't look that way. 138 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: And I will always stand by the idea that we 139 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: can be grateful for our growth without being grateful for 140 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: the thing that made us grow. I'm not grateful for trauma. 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about that. I'm not 142 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: grateful for trauma. I am grateful for the parts of 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: me that I was forced to find and see and 144 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: hold and know because of what I've gone through. I'm 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: not grateful for the trauma, but a lot of the 146 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: hard parts of life or what have forced me to 147 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: tap into the parts of me that I might not 148 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: ever find if I didn't have to find them, which 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: leads me to number five four five and six kind 150 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: of all to go together. Number five, asking for help 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: is one of the most vulnerable and courageous things humans 152 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: can do. This is also one of the things that 153 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: is the hardest for people to do, which I found 154 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: very very, very very early on. It is extremely difficult 155 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: for people to ask for help for different reasons. And 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I wonder often when we're going to universally acknowledge that, 157 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: like asking for help is like actually a huge act 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: of strength and power. I mean, we're humans, and humans 159 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: were put on earth more than one at a time, 160 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure for a reason. And we were literally 161 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: created to need people and to be connected to people, 162 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: like actually we were born connected to another human, Like 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: it's that literal. And what we know through through just 164 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: like living life and also through research and science is 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: that like humans can't develop fully in like a vacuum 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: by themselves. They need people. They just do. If you 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: want to be a functional human, you need other people. 168 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: That is just a truth. And we never stop being 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: humans aroound our lives. So like it's not like when 170 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: you're a kid, you can you can need people because 171 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: you're a human when your kid, but when you get 172 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: older you turn into this like robot thing that doesn't 173 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: need No, you're always a human, so that means you 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: never stop needing, which brings me into number six. Like 175 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I said, four or five and six are kind of connected. 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: We don't just need help in our value moments. I 177 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: love talking about the Valley, I really do. Maybe I'll 178 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: do an episode on that. But this was a later 179 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: lesson for me. It came after I realized very early 180 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: on that asking for help is an amazing sign of strength. 181 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: But I think clicked after I realized how important like 182 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: aftercare was when it came to the recovery process, Like 183 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: when I was working in treatment and you put so 184 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: much effort into making sure people had all this aftercare 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and we had all these resources, and we had to 186 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: these backup plans, these all the stuff, and it was like, 187 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: why do these people are sober now they've worked on 188 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: their trauma. Why do we still need this? And it's 189 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: because like when we come to like the early stages 190 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: of like okay, I need help, Like when we were 191 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: finally like okay, I need help, there's usually like a 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: little bit of like motivation to do the work and 193 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: feel better, and then like we we get excited because 194 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: things aren't working, And then we're climbing to the top 195 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: of the mountain and we're getting out of the valley, 196 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: and so we're doing all the things, and then once 197 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: we get to the top of the mountain, it's like, Okay, 198 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm done. But then we forget that, Like the reason 199 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: that we got to the top of the mountain is 200 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: because I was doing all of these things. So what's 201 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen when I stopped doing these things? When I 202 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: stopped needing to support or thinking that I need support, 203 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: When I stopped doing the things that I know helped 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: me walk to my day with a good attitude or 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: the energy that I need when I do the things 206 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: that allow me to rest, when I do the things 207 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: that allow me to all that, you're going to fall 208 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: down the mountain. If we stop doing the things that 209 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: make us feel better and more full and more human 210 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: and more alive, then eventually we're going to go back 211 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: to where we started. I get why that's tough and 212 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: why we don't want that to be true, because it's 213 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: like this, does the work ever end? But like it 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: kind of doesn't. We just got to keep doing those things. 215 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: We don't just need help. In value moments number seven. 216 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Conflict is necessary to build intimacy. If there's no conflict 217 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: in a relationship, then somebody's not being honest. I'll just 218 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: say that, if there's no it's never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: ever ever any conflict in a relationship, somebody is not 220 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: being either transparent or honest or vulnerable. And there's no 221 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: way that two people never have one ounce of conflict 222 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: if they're both being fully themselves. And I say this 223 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: knowing that conflict isn't bad. It's an opportunity to know 224 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: someone deeper and learn, just like we learn from our 225 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: value moments, right, And I love this idea that I 226 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: ran into. This could be a whole another point, but 227 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in here that like, what makes 228 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: a relationship strong isn't how compatible and like perfect you 229 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: are together, but how you handle incompatibility, like when those 230 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: things do come up when you do disagree. It's not 231 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: really about oh, we just fit perfectly because we are 232 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: a perfect match, because like perfect does not exist in 233 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: the world. It's oh, we know we are not perfect, 234 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: and in our imperfection we have the ability to sit 235 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: and work through and be in that stuff together. So 236 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: conflict is necessary to build intimacy. If I want to 237 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: know somebody deeper, I have to allow them and I 238 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: have to allow myself to be fully vulnerable. If I 239 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: want intimacy, I have to be vulnerable. Vulnerability invites conflict. 240 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Conflict helps us know people deeper. All of that is intertwined. 241 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: Number eight. If it looks like someone's life is perfect, 242 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: there is a very high chance it's actually chaotic. And 243 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't really need to say a 244 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: lot here, but like hear me out, I see it all. 245 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: I see it all, like I see the insides of 246 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: so many people's lives, and I just needed to trust 247 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: me here, Like perfect is not a thing. So if 248 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: something looks perfect, there is a chance that you are 249 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: either not seeing the full picture or there is a 250 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of masking going on. And the good news is here, 251 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because we don't need to identify 252 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: how good our life is by sizing up someone else's 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: life around us. And I heard Annie f Downs say 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: this on her podcast That Sounds Fun one time, and 255 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: I just love it so much. She said, if we 256 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: are deciding if our life is okay by looking at 257 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: someone else's life, we're always going to come up wanting 258 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: because we usually look at like the outsides of other 259 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: people's lives, and we compare our insides to everybody's outsides, 260 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: and we think that their outsides are perfect, and like, 261 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: maybe they are. I don't know. That doesn't really make 262 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: sense to me because perfect and one person isn't perfect 263 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: to another, and like what it's perfect and all that. 264 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: But if we are always looking to other people to 265 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: figure out if we have enough, we're always not going 266 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: to have enough, because the reality is we all need differences, 267 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: we don't all need the same. But if you think 268 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: somebody's life is perfect, I just want you to know 269 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: you are probably not seeing the whole picture, or you're 270 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: not seeing clearly. Okay. Number nine, You cannot withdraw your 271 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: way to connection. And this is a tricky one because 272 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I bet more of us do this than we want 273 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: to admit. But one of the deepest and like most 274 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,239 Speaker 1: like I guess, universal desires for human beings is the 275 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: desire to connect, to connect with other people. We all 276 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: just like want connection and connection heals us. But to 277 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: get connection, we have to move to we can't move away, 278 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: and so often we do this thing where we lean 279 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: away hoping that someone will lean into us. But as 280 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: we lean away, a lot of times those people either 281 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: stay where they are or they also will lean away 282 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: too because they're like sensing your vibe. Right, you can't 283 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: withdraw your way to connection. That's a very passive, aggressive 284 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: and just like not honest. It's not vulnerable, and connection 285 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: is vulnerable. It's not the true way to actually connect 286 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: to people, connecting to saying hey, I have a need, 287 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Hey have a feeling, Hey have a desire. I need 288 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: you to hear me. It's not rolling over and hoping 289 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: that the other person will tap you on the shoulder 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: and be like, what's wrong? All right? Number ten, Acceptance 291 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: can be more healing than love. Love, in fact, is 292 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: not always the answer. And I know this is crazy, right, 293 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy that I just said that, because we're not 294 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: taught that. But sometimes it's impossible. Sometimes it's just impossible 295 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: to love something or someone. It just is. And in 296 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: those cases when we can't learn to love ourselves or 297 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: our bodies or somebody else or an experience, we get 298 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: to choose something else, like there is another option, and 299 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: that other option is called acceptance. And there actually is 300 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: a skill called radical acceptance that a woman named Marcia 301 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Lenahan has created in her skills that go into this 302 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: overhead idea of therapy called DPT. It's a whole school 303 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: of therapy, dialectical behavioral therapy, and radical acceptance is one 304 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest skills used inside of that therapy process. 305 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: And the truth is it's very very very very very 306 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: exhausting to fight reality, Like it's very exhausting, and then 307 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: also it doesn't work, Like we can't just like fight 308 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: reality and then win and be like reality is not reality. 309 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I win, like, no, you can't actually change reality. And 310 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I also confine myself trying to do this sometimes like 311 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: this can't be true, this isn't whatever. I have to 312 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: learn to do this or I have to do that. 313 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: But refusing to accept reality doesn't make our pain go away. 314 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: It just ends up turning our pain into suffering. So 315 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that again, refusing to accept reality doesn't 316 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: make our pain go away. It just turns our pain 317 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: into suffering. So this skill of radical Upton's is very 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: helpful in situations when you can't change reality and you 319 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: can't change how you feel about reality. And radical acceptance 320 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: does not mean that you agree with what's happening or 321 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: what has happened to you. Rather, it just signals like 322 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity for hope because you are accepting things as 323 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: they are and not fighting. So if you want to 324 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: learn more about radical acceptance, you honestly could google it 325 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and find a lot of good information on it. Um 326 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: If you search Marsha Lenehan, a bunch of stuff will 327 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: come up. DBT is awesome. So if you're in therapy, 328 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: you can like ask your therapist I want to learn 329 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: more about this. Most therapists know at least a baseline 330 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: amount of DPT because their skills can be universal even 331 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: if you don't practice solely DBT. And maybe we'll do 332 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: a whole episode on that as well. One day. We're 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: going to do this podcast forever, I've decided, so we 334 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of episodes so I can use whatever 335 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: topics that I need to use. Number eleven. Sometimes things 336 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: don't make sense, and that's the point period. One of 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: the biggest encouragements I would like to give to any 338 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: and all human beings is do not attempt to understand 339 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: why a dysfunctional or very unhealthy person does what they do. 340 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: Just understand that it's dysfunctional understand that they're not healthy, 341 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: and then put a period to actually figure that out 342 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: can sometimes be super damaging because at the same time, 343 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: you're trying to rationalize certain behaviors that can't be rationalized. 344 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: For example, when people ask questions like why did this 345 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: happen to me? When talking about like abuse or trauma 346 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, it sends a message that your 347 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: abuse has something to do with you, and it can 348 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: be explained and it can make sense to you, and 349 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: abuse just can't make sense. It's not okay. And I 350 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: know we want to make sense of things because it 351 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: tells us, like in our heads, if I can make 352 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: sense of this, I can understand it, and then maybe 353 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I won't feel this way. But I think it's very 354 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: empowering to know that there are certain things that don't 355 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: make sense because they're so messed up. So sometimes things 356 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: don't make sense. And that's just the point number twelve. 357 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Behavior is a symptom, not the problem, and this is 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: where the idea of focusing on the cause, not the symptom, 359 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: comes in when it comes to addiction, especially I am 360 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: relentless here. I did an episode on addiction awhile ago 361 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that I highly suggest listening to. And there's this genius 362 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: man named Gabor Mate who I talk a lot about 363 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: on that episode, and he illustrates this idea perfectly when 364 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: he speaks about how addiction is looked at in our 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: society because we look at humans and we say like, 366 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Why are you smoking? Why 367 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: are you drinking? Why are you're doing these drugs? Why 368 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: are you watching this? Or why why do you keep 369 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: doing that? And it's like, well, maybe that's not the 370 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: question we need to be asking, because maybe that behavior 371 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: is not actually the problem, and it's a symptom of 372 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: a bigger problem. And so the question we might want 373 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: to ask instead of like why the addiction is why 374 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: are you in so much pain? So behavior is a symptom, 375 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: it's not the problem. And I think if we can 376 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: own that for ourselves and other people, it can allow 377 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: us to be so much more loving and carrying towards 378 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: ourselves and accepting. If that's what you n you don't 379 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: actually have to work hard to be who you are. 380 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: You have to work hard to stop being who you 381 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: aren't just let that one sink in being ourselves actually 382 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: comes very naturally. It's the other stuff that clouds are 383 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: are being and and clouds our relationships, and it clouds 384 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: our thoughts. That fear of not being able to control 385 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: being loved or understood or being loved by certain people 386 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: really screws with our ability to show up. So we 387 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: develop all of these things, whether their behaviors or thoughts 388 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: or ways we show up, and all of the ways 389 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: we look, ways we dress. We develop all these things 390 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: and attempt to get what we all truly want love, connection, acceptance, belonging. 391 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: And then these like become like coats of armor almost 392 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: and and and so it's it's not so hard to 393 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: be you. That's a natural thing. If you took the 394 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: coats of armor off, there you'd be. But it's hard 395 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: to take this coats of armor off because if I 396 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: take this off, what's going to happen? What won't I get? 397 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: What won't I have? And the question I would even 398 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: ask here to like transform that what won't I get? 399 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: What well when I have? Is what is my armor 400 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: keeping me from? What's my armor keeping me from? If 401 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: I was created on purpose, for a purpose, with purpose 402 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: the way I was for a purpose, but then I 403 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: put all this armor on, I don't show up with 404 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: that as that human. There's something that I'm like, probably 405 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: not getting because the creation I was created as doesn't 406 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: get to show up. But it's really really hard and 407 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: scary to take that stuff off. And so people I 408 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: hear people say all the time like I don't know 409 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: who I am, or it's hard to be who I am, 410 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: and or it's hard to show up as authentic, And 411 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if that's the thing that 412 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: we need to look at. I think it's hard to 413 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: let go of the things that we've put on top 414 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: of who we are. Number fourteen. It is truly never 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: too late. Honestly, I want to make this one short 416 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and simple, because the thing here is unless you're dead, 417 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: you still have time. That that applies to anything. Unless 418 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: you're dead, you still have time. And there are so 419 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: many things in our lives that we are like, oh, 420 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: my time is passed. I can't do that. It's too 421 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: late for this, it's too late for that. And it's 422 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: like when we see this all the time, the time 423 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: is going to pass. You're moving in so like you 424 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: might as well use it to do what you want 425 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: to do, or or be he want to be, or 426 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: say what you want to say that time is going 427 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to move, so do you want to move with it 428 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: or do you want to kind of stay like almost 429 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: like holding yourself back. But it is never too late, 430 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: never too late to go to therapy. It's never too 431 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: late to to work on yourself. It's never too late 432 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: to get back to school. It's never too late to 433 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: think about starting a job. It's never too late to 434 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: start a new hobby. It's never too late you could 435 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: be And you're like, I want to learn how to 436 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: play the piano. It doesn't mean that you're going to 437 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: be like incredible piano player, but you can learn maybe, 438 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: which brings us to number fifteen. We made it all 439 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: the way to the end. This is one of my 440 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: favorite things ever. So I know I said in the beginning, 441 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: like I can't rank these, but like, this is one 442 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: of my favorite things in the whole entire world. And 443 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: it is this simple, simple, simple idea and truth in 444 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: fact that you cannot heal what you refuse to acknowledge. 445 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: And I say this one of our last because as 446 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: simple as it sounds, it's one of the most important 447 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: things I think we can learn to hold on and 448 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: plant inside of our beans that we can't heal things 449 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: that we aren't acknowledging. We can't tend to wounds that 450 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: we pretend aren't there. And it's hard and it's scary, 451 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I know, to acknowledge stuff, to acknowledge pain, it's scary, 452 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: But remember us not acknowledging pain doesn't make it go away. 453 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: It just turns our pain into suffering. So I'm gonna 454 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: leave you with that one because I think it's so powerful, 455 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: And maybe you think about, like, what are the things 456 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: that I'm refusing to acknowledge that like actually deserves some healing, 457 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: And maybe if I give myself that healing, it might 458 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: be easier for me to take some most armor off 459 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: and then I can beat myself. Is that part? You 460 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: already have the structure to do be yourself. So there 461 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: are my fifteen things I learned on my journey of 462 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: being a therapist. And maybe we'll do a part two 463 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: one day, because this list will continue to grow till 464 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: the end of time and change, and I might change 465 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: my mind on some of them because we're allowed to 466 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: do that. As humans. We are allowed to change our minds, 467 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: which gets to go on the list. But I hope 468 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: that was helpful for you. Guys, and I think that 469 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: you guys could also be making these kinds of lists 470 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: like you could also. I mean, this is a human thing, 471 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: so you're moving through life, You're also learning things about 472 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: humanity and yourself and all of that. So this could 473 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: be a little encouragement to start your own little list 474 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: of things I've learned from being a human being. If 475 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: you have any questions, remember you can always email me 476 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: Catherine at You Need Therapy podcast. You can follow me 477 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: at cat dot de fata or the podcast at you 478 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Need Therapy podcast on Instagram. I love when you guys 479 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: connect with me on there, and I love when you 480 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: guys send me emails and questions and all of that. 481 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave you with that, and I hope 482 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: you guys have the very day you need to have, 483 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: the very week you need to have, And I'm gonna 484 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: go have the Monday that I need to have. By guys,