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Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Couple at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Rob g. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: We talked about the Monday Night Football and there was 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: a conversation with Josh Allen, of course, the reigning MVP 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and he had some comments 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: that were very interesting. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: So for the last few years now, it seems like 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 5: every off season or at the conclusion of every regular season, 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 5: the conversation to Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills is always 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 5: is this the year? Is this the year you're gonna 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: finally break through? You can finally get in that super 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: You've been knocking on the door for so long, You're 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 5: finally gonna get there. Right. A porter asked him about 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 5: it earlier this week once again, and this time, apparently, 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 5: according to ESPN, Josh Allen seemed exasperated because he rolled 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 5: his eyes and then he said, I think if I 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 5: knew how to get over that hump, we've ever gotten over. 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: That hump already. 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 5: And then later on they're discussing his whole, you know, 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 5: reception in Buffalo and his mindset. Everyone's talking about he's 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: more at ease, he's more comfortable, he just got married. 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: His perspective on life has totally changed. And he said 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: something that got Rob Parker's panties all in a bunch, 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 5: double bunch. Here's what he said talking to double bunches. 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: But we won't go there. 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 5: How life away from football has changed his perspective on things. 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 5: Here we go quote. It's never been a goal of 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 5: mine to win the MVP. If anything's been to win 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: Super Bowl MVP. I think that's the better of the 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: two awards anyway, Make no mistake, it's a cool honor. 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 5: Really do appreciate it, but it doesn't change my life. 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 5: Doesn't change you who I am, and to that point, 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: it probably when he was a Super Bowl wouldn't change 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: who I am or to find my life either. But 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: it is something the city's wanted for a long time, 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 5: and it feel like I can help be a piece 44 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: that brings it here. Something it's very important for excuse me. 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 5: It's more important to me than a singular trophy. 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: All right, there was one right answer and he gave 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: the wrong one. Playing and simple. 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: What was that? 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: Of course, I want to win a super Bowl for 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: the city. 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: No one's just saying it's going to change you and 52 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna be some different person and turn into something 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: this or that. 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: It's such an easy answer. 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is a great football town, Buffalo, man, they 56 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: had great teams back in the nineties. Couldn't get there. 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: More than anything I ever want to do, I would 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: love to win a championship for the city. All the 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: other stuff about him and changing him, and I'm happy 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: to win the MVP. Nobody really, no, most people would 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: tell you this is why you play. Okay, we talk 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: about it all the time, all the accolades. If Aaron 63 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Judge wins another MVP, none of it, none of it. Okay, 64 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge knows. What does he want to do? Kelvin, 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: he wants to win a World Series for the Yankees. 66 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Right. 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I just think that's an easy answer, And I think 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: that was the easy answer in that case, is to 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: just forget about This isn't about me. How about if 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: you're a fan and you were listening and that question 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: was asked, and he said, dude, this isn't about me. 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: This is about this great city of Buffalo and this 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: storied football tradition in the National Football League, and the 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: idea that I'm here and I have a chance to 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: try to finally get this city to where it belongs 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: or give it a memory that they'll never forget. Like 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: that's all people want to hear about. Nobody's trying to 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: say you're gonna oh, it's not gonna change me if 79 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I well, because basically, you know what that sounds like. 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a cop out, like, well, I 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: don't have to win one to be this or that. 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Charles Barkley played his NBA career with 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the idea of well, you know. 84 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: I don't have to He wanted to win. 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody wants to win, and so I just 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: when I heard that, it just sounded like a cop 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: out to me, like a, well, you know, whether I 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: win or I don't win, I'm not gonna be a 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: different person. 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, thanks for coming. 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, so here's where I push back and get your 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 6: sentiment right. Just yo, I'm doing this for Buffalo. Always 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 6: love football, love the city. 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: We mean the word. I get that. 95 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 6: A couple of things happen here, in my opinion, Number one, 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 6: starting with the obvious. 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: To Robgi's point, he's tired of it. 98 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 6: Probably Lamar Jackson's probably given another two years or so, 99 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: justin Herbert will be. 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: Tired of when are you gonna win? When are you 101 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: gonna break through? 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 6: So I think we initially heard the fatigue of that question, 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: because I don't think anyone asked himselves that question more 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 6: than he asked himself. 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: But here's where I'm wanna break it down a little 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: bit further. 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 6: So you were talking about, you know, showing that you 108 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 6: want to do it, showing that you're all in and 109 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 6: telling them that. Well, I think he has shown the 110 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 6: city of Buffalo that with this play, the man literally 111 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 6: the team. No, it is exactly all him. He does 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: everything for that team. He dives over the place, he's 113 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 6: jumping over stuff, he's putting his way, body in harms, way, 114 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: he's playing through injuries. I mean, he couldn't get any 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: tougher in how he plays for the city, a tough 116 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 6: city of Buffalo. So I think the fans actually hear 117 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 6: that and they are okay with it in the standpoint 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 6: of you could sell me a. 119 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: Bunch of woop tickets. Gee, Gotti sucks. I'm trying. I'm 120 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: out here, but then maybe not play that way. 121 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: But I think they get to see him night and 122 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 6: night out, every Sunday, every Thursday, every Monday, and he's 123 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 6: playing all out, so they don't question that from their leader. 124 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: And I think that's a good thing with the fans. Now. 125 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 6: I think what we heard was approach. He just got married, 126 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: he's obviously a little older than he was when he 127 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 6: first got it, and I think he's answering it from 128 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 6: a broader approach of life, meaning I play so wound 129 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: up and tight. 130 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: I've been thinking it's all I think about it. 131 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: I can't and it's probably been part of why he 132 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: feels let me just go out. 133 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: And he talked about it further Raji in it. 134 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 6: He said, let me just go out and play and 135 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 6: play my absolute hardest, but let the chips fall where 136 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 6: they mean. I can't be so high strung where I'm 137 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 6: thinking of every single play, every single pass. And I 138 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: think he's talk about approach. And I had Robert or 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 6: talk about this. He wanted the more clutch shooters of 140 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: all time as we know, big shot Bob, and he 141 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 6: talked about Man, everybody always asked me what happens? What 142 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: goes do your mind? He said, Man, I just let 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 6: that thing fly. Because his point was similar to what 144 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: Josh said. He said, Man, I absolutely want to make it. 145 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 6: I want to win this big game. He said, But man, 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 6: if I miss it, I'm still me. I'm still the 147 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 6: same player. I still wanted to take the shot. I 148 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 6: just missed it, and I'm you know, and what life's 149 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 6: gonna go on? 150 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: And I think. 151 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: Josh for breaking news. Life is going to go on 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: whether you win or not. But I think ain't breaking news. 153 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: But it's an approach. 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: Rob. 155 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: Some people play too tight, and you see that. 156 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: We all know. 157 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Nobody's asking him about playing too tight. And just the 158 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: idea for him to honestly say that nothing would change 159 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: if he won a super Bowl. 160 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: Do you really believe that if he won a super Bowl? 161 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 6: And that's what I'm he's take it from, does it 162 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 6: change his life? 163 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: Does it does his life change? 164 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, does this life change if he wins 165 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: a super Bowl? 166 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: He says, he said it wouldn't change. So that's why what. 167 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 6: I'm saying, he's trying to answer philosophically from a humanistic standpoint, 168 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 6: not talking football. 169 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Come on, man, nobody's talking about your wife and your 170 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: family and the existence of life. It's about football. It's 171 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: about winning. It's why you play. That's all I'm saying. 172 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's asking him to be a philosopher. No, that's not 173 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: what we're asking you about. What is the essence of life? 174 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: What will happen to the atmosphere if you win a 175 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Will the sky turn black? Will it be 176 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: sunny for the next forty years? Nobody's asking him that 177 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: it's just about winning and winning a Super Bowl, which 178 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: is the reason you play. 179 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: That's all. 180 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: It's a simple and that's why I say there's one answer, 181 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: and he answered it wrong. 182 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: And that's why I would disagree because I think for him, 183 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 6: what he's realizing is operating what truly matters in his 184 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: life may help him on the field, as opposed to 185 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 6: having his priority. 186 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: Is it not being so high strung. 187 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 6: That's what I gathered from that, saying, Man, let me 188 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 6: go out there and ball out and do what I 189 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 6: do and understand that I don't have to be like 190 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 6: my life is over because I didn't win. 191 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: And I think he's trying. 192 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: He's separating the two and that's why he's given getting 193 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: to this place in his life and his career. But 194 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 6: I never you can't watch him if you're a Buffalo 195 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 6: Bills fan every single play, never question does he out 196 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 6: there getting. 197 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Nobody says that that. It wasn't a question about effort, 198 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: it was about winning. It's a big difference, but nobody 199 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: had answer. If I had no answer to the test, 200 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: then I would a to test. That's what he if 201 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I already what's it gonna take to win? What's it 202 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna take to win? All it's gonna take? 203 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 6: He I'm going out there, I'm trying to win every 204 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 6: year and none of y'all think I'm not. So how 205 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: can I answer, what's it gonna take to win this year? 206 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 6: I don't know me doing it. I'm doing the same thing. 207 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 6: I'm trying every week every year, and eventually, like you said, 208 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 6: we're gonna crack that thing. If we'll crack it this year, 209 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 6: we're gonna crack it next year. What else can he say? Well, 210 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go out there and give it my best player. 211 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: We clearly see that Fox Sports Radio has the best 212 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: sports talk lineup in the nation. 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New episodes drop every Thursday, So do your 221 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: sofa favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 222 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 223 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 5: ESPN, as I would say, did a full feature on 224 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: these Miami Dolphins, and the point of it was apparently 225 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 5: last season they had what they would call a culture 226 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: problem in Miami, specifically as it relates to at least 227 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: two of their on the record star players, one of 228 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 5: them being Jalen Ramsey who got traded. One of them 229 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: with Tyreek Hill, who asked to be traded ultimately was not, 230 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: and according to an anonymous player who was on that team, 231 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: I don't think he's on this current team. He said 232 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: that Dolphins players, specifically those two and other players on 233 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: the team had a quote lack of respect from Mike McDaniel. 234 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: In fact, that player went on record as saying that 235 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: McDaniel trying to be open and vulnerable and being a 236 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 5: player's coach and allowing guys to come late and miss 237 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: meetings or skip meetings and only get fined but never 238 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: really get reprimanded in the media or reprimanded in front 239 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: of the team, according to that player, was misconstrued as 240 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: him being quote soft. So all the things he was 241 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: doing when they were winning, no problem. They started losing. 242 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: The walls are caving in on Mike McDaniel big time. 243 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 4: And to me, this is a couple of examples. 244 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 6: To me, Rob, of while coaching is not a one 245 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: size fit all thing, and I think he's learning the 246 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 6: hard way. So when you're coaching these guys, first of all, Rob, 247 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: if your team is set up with captains of Tyreek 248 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 6: Hill and Jalen Ramsey and those are you know, maybe two, 249 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: three or four captains, you're in for a bad situation. 250 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: And a couple of reasons why. 251 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 6: Your captains are supposed to be the ones that set 252 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 6: the tone right, the guys who are there that are 253 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 6: working the hardest, and when we read this report, they're 254 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 6: not ro Not only are they maybe showing up to 255 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 6: meetings a little late. 256 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I can understand things happen. 257 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 6: They're missing meetings or just flat out leaving meetings or 258 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 6: leaving practice. You got multiple guys doing that. Tyreek Hill 259 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: is the same guy that's sending out flirtations. I want 260 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 6: to go back to Kansas City. I don't want to 261 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: be here. Trade me and these guys are supposed to 262 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 6: be your leaders. And one of the things that when 263 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 6: you're being a coach you have to understand is I'm 264 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 6: a manager of personalities and I have to manage like 265 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: this with this guy. I gotta be hard on this guy. 266 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 6: This guy works hard and all he needs is a 267 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 6: pat on the back. This guy, I ain't gotta say 268 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 6: much because he here to play, he's here to practice, 269 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 6: he's here to perform, and you have to be feeling, 270 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 6: you know, being able to manage those personalities. He came 271 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 6: in being the cool guy, being the funny guy, and 272 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 6: trying to be the players coach, and it seems as 273 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 6: though it's backfired where they're treating him like little bru 274 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 6: he's already a small guy, he's already young, and from 275 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: this report, they're treating him like little bruh, ignoring him, 276 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: they have no respect for him. And you know what 277 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 6: makes it worse, Robin, We talk about this all the time. 278 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 6: When he won twenty of his first thirty three games 279 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 6: and was making the postseason and putting a seventy piece 280 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 6: on people's. 281 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: Heads, it was all right. 282 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: But now that he's losing, and now that the team 283 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 6: is struggling, they tune them out. They're not listening. And 284 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 6: this is the challenge when you're trying to overly be 285 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 6: a friend coach player friendly coach. You gotta set the 286 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 6: tone first. You have to set the expectation first. You 287 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 6: have to set the standard first, and then you can 288 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 6: scale back. You can scale back then and again, I 289 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 6: think this is what's happening. He's getting backfired on on 290 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 6: trying to be too cool, trying to be too hip, 291 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: coming in wearing you know, look at me, look at that, 292 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 6: and not that they're losing, and because they don't have 293 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 6: the respect for him. This is what he's dealing with, 294 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 6: and he might ultimately lose his job. Here we were 295 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: just talking about Deshaun foster. He might be in the 296 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 6: same situation, whether it be today or over the next 297 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 6: game or two. 298 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: Here's mony issue, and I just think this is what happens. 299 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: It's easy to throw arrows once things go bad. And 300 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: he was a younger, hipper coach. This is why they thought. So. 301 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: Now you're saying, basically, he was getting credit for being 302 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: able to relate to younger players because he's younger and 303 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: not a sixty five year old man set in his 304 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: ways and it was working. Now, I'm not saying he's 305 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: a great coach or any of that, but now to 306 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: use that against him after he did have success, and 307 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: he did have a seventy piece at one point, they 308 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: would call him a boy genius. It's easy for people 309 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: to when things go bad, that's when people come out 310 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: of the woodworks, and now they're going to point out 311 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: all the laws and everything. 312 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: It just comes with the territory. 313 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that that means that he's not the 314 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: same guy, or his style doesn't work, or if you're 315 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: winning and you're doing that, winning covers up everything. 316 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: It's like makeup. I say it all the time. 317 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: If you win, you can get away with everything, right, 318 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: You get away with calling people out and being gruff 319 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: and and and all that. Bill Belichick did it right, 320 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: and as soon as things didn't go that way, Oh 321 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: they're tuning him out. 322 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: He's been around too long. 323 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Or Greg Popovich, same thing, you know, when he was 324 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: winning in those championships. But yeah, now he's old and 325 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: now people are tired of hearing pop and he's outdated. 326 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm saying? Like it's the same guy, 327 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: Just things change. 328 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: And so I don't know if I could put it 329 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: all on McDaniel and say that it's it's his fault 330 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: or he's the one, or he's the reason, and I'm 331 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: not exolving him, not at all, because that's how you're judged. 332 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: We talked all the time, wins and losses. That's how 333 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: you judge it, whether it's your fault or not. When 334 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: players perform right, you get credit for that, and when 335 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: they don't perform, you get blame. 336 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: It's the same way. If I'm going to give you 337 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: a new contract. 338 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Because you won twenty of your first thirty three games right, 339 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: and the players performed then did what you asked them 340 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to do, then I'm gonna have to let I'm to 341 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: let you go when you lose your life, you know, 342 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: ten of your last thirteen and you look bad doing it. 343 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: Here's here's where I. 344 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying. But the challenge I have 345 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 6: is one of the things that I think you have 346 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 6: to come in there and do is one thing that's 347 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 6: factual to me and anything. 348 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: It's set accountability. 349 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: When you read this report, is that guys have been 350 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 6: running them up from day one. It's just they It 351 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 6: just they were talented. Tyreek Hill comes straight off to 352 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 6: I want to prove everybody wrong. Kansas City doesn't want 353 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 6: to sign me. Remember he talked, oh two is better 354 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: than Patrick Mahomes. And he's going crazy with with the 355 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 6: with the offense and the receiving yards and all of that. 356 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 6: So it looks good. But the problem is when you 357 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 6: don't have accountability. When you don't have you're not holding 358 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 6: those leaders to those standards. And they and maybe that's 359 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 6: some GM too. They're calling for Grier to they're flying 360 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 6: for their turn real quick. They're flying airplanes round that 361 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 6: have fire uh Grier as well the general manage. So so 362 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: maybe he brought in the wrong guys coupled with it, 363 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: so he's not exolted of this as well, But go ahead, w. 364 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: You talked about team captain some most of the time 365 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: those are voted on by players. Players didn't vote Tyreek 366 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Kill team captain. That's not that's usually the locker room 367 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: and the players, not the coach. 368 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: So and so I said, the coach has to hold 369 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: those players. 370 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: I can't have my star player when you read this, 371 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 6: I can't have my star players Rob leaving practice, not 372 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 6: showing up to meetings, and even Tyreek Hill even that minute, 373 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 6: he said, well, I'm on time this time this year. 374 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: I missed no practice this year. I've been on time 375 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: everything this year. 376 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you creating a toxic coature where guys are 377 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 6: taking this year as we always saw, talk about this 378 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: the best of the best. You know, if i'm if 379 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: I'm a middlely player and I see Lamar Jackson is 380 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 6: the first two here practicing harder, watching films, I'm like, oh, shoot, 381 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 6: if Lamar doing it, I know I gotta do it. 382 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: We already know the late great Kobe Bryant. They're setting 383 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: a standard. 384 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 6: And if you're letting guys you know, the the uh 385 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 6: you know the guy the prisoners running asylum run the prison, 386 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 6: then then this is what you get toxicity and it 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 6: ends up happening. We've seen where they they just had 388 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 6: a player's only meeting after week one, Rob, you know 389 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 6: it's all bad and you know things aren't good when 390 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: after week everybody. 391 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Anybody would say about a guy like Pop or or 392 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: somebody like that before he stepped down, did Pop hadn't 393 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: won in like ten years or whatever? 394 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: And people will just bring up I hope you I hope. 395 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: My point is, I hope is that it's easy to 396 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: say that after when things go bad. 397 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm just saying winning changes the way you love. 398 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, and I'm gonna give you Terry Francona 399 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: in Boston, they won World Series and then all of 400 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: a sudden they became the Chicken and Biscuits guys and 401 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: drinking beer and all that in the clubhouse, right, and 402 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: then Terry wound up getting fired and then he was 403 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: running a loose ship. No, he was running a loose 404 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: ship with the Chicken and the Biscuits in the video 405 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: game when they were winning championships too. But once they 406 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: started losing, then all of a sudden, that ain't cool. 407 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: And that's all My point is. I'm not trying to 408 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: make it, coach. 409 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: Let me go back to your pop. Sure, you brought 410 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 6: up pop, and I think the difference is pop. We 411 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 6: know what the Spurs way was. We all know what 412 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 6: that is. You brought up Bill Belchick, the Patriots way. 413 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 6: You look at Sean McVay. Sean McVay has proven whether 414 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 6: it's Jared Goff, whether it's Matthew Stafford, I've had you know, 415 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: I've been around that organization a little bit. 416 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: They have a way about them. And that's the thing. 417 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 6: You have to create some type of systematic way, some 418 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 6: type of culture and excy. And I think Michael McDaniel 419 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 6: does not have that right now, and you can't have 420 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 6: it where your players don't. 421 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Like I just I just think I'm just gonna be 422 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: when you have unnamed people talking about respect and all 423 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: this stuff. 424 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's easy to say that when you lose. 425 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, Like. 426 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Be careful not to take that stuff as gospel, because 427 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: things have. 428 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: Turned bad and when you lose people, this is what 429 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: people do. That's evidence. That's my only part. 430 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: Here's the evidence too. 431 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: If they Buffalo to Night, then what would be your 432 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: like said they beat Buffalo Okay, they turn the season around, 433 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: then then what has happened? Have they got respect for him? Now, 434 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying then it would be one, oh, they 435 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: just won. 436 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: So here's the thing that we have. The evidence is 437 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 6: in the reason why they traded Jaylen Ramsey. They got 438 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: rid of him because they according to the former players, 439 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 6: former coaches, former people within the organization, he was toxic 440 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 6: to that locker room. The reason why they Tyree care 441 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: Love being a captain talks it to that locker room. 442 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: The reason why they had to have a player's only 443 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 6: meeting in Getro gay one. 444 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: So we have evidence. This isn't just losing. 445 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: Andy Reid could end up going six and eleven this season, 446 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: you know, and none of us would necessarily question that. 447 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 6: You can have other teams that have You're not gonna 448 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 6: win every year. Winning is not that's not that's not it. 449 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: But you can't have you can't be bad. 450 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: I'm just saying every question argument to you is just 451 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it's very easy to just point out 452 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: stuff once you start losing that that that's all. 453 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 3: That's all. 454 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: I think you gotta be very careful with that. It's 455 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: an easy way out for the players to not take 456 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: accountability or blame that they haven't played up to expectations. 457 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: You're it's easy to point to one guy rather than 458 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: the look around the room. 459 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: And that's all I'm saying. 460 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm not Mike McDaniel doesn't do anything for me in 461 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: a positive way or a negative way. I don't think 462 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: he's the greatest coach since Light's bread. But I can 463 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: tell you this, players do this all the time. As 464 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: somebody who's covered sports for a long time is to 465 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: take the blame away from them. 466 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: That's all they Yeah, it's the coach. Oh yeah, he. 467 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't do this, he doesn't do that. No, maybe you 468 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: don't tackle right, maybe you don't catch third down throws. 469 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I mean. Like, there's a there's 470 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: a responsibility that comes from the players as well. 471 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 6: I heard that, and I don't disagree with that, but 472 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: I definitely think it's his responsibility to call them out 473 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 6: about that. And that's another thing they talk about is 474 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 6: that he never did that. He only find them and 475 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: they all used to laugh at the fines that he 476 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 6: would post up uh on the on you know about 477 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 6: guys who were like guys who weren't doing this, Guys 478 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: who weren't doing that. 479 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 480 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 481 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 482 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: listen live. 483 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: But Rob g we got big news today in Major 484 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: League Baseball, and the Dodgers made did the right thing 485 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: in announcing it because h one of their legendary pictures, 486 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: and they've had many in this organization's history, is calling 487 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: it quit. 488 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: Now you beat your nice Robin. I'm really upset about 489 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: this news. You know why? 490 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: Why is the personal reason. We had just recorded the 491 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: Inside the Parker MLB podcast. It had gone live yea 492 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: seven minutes before this news came down. So now we 493 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: look dated and we looked like you don't know what 494 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: we're doing because Clayton Kershaw had to get this news 495 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: out at two o seven Empacific. 496 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: What was that? 497 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: You're right, I thought you knew you were gonna do it. 498 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: Why did you do it in the morning? 499 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: Do it? 500 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: He should have done it in the morning for the 501 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: East coast. Do it released? 502 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 6: But an even spectful to you man, how much you 503 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 6: know you've you've you've been dealing with him over the years. 504 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: He should have did that for you, Rob part he 505 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 6: should have threw you that out of you. He should 506 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 6: have matter of fact, broke you with you exclusive Rob, 507 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. You've been covering baseball since 508 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 6: Moby Dick was a guppy, and I'm gonna break this 509 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: news with you first. 510 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: I've always been a big fan of MLB bro dot com. 511 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: And you know, even though I even though I needed 512 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 6: to know, y'all wouldn't let me know, I've still been 513 00:22:59,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 6: a fan. 514 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, you mentioned that. 515 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: Clayton Kershaw has announced that at the end of this 516 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five Dodger season, he will be retiring from 517 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: the game of baseball. Clayton Kershaw, of course, twenty fourteen 518 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: and l MVP two hundred and twenty two victories, second 519 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: only to Don Sutton in Dodgers franchise history. In July, 520 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 5: became the twentieth pitcher in baseball history to accumulate three 521 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: thousand career strikeouts. Here's the best one. His two point 522 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: five to four era the lowest of any pitcher in 523 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: the live ball era. Clayton Kershaw flat out stood. 524 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: No doubt, the best picture of our generation. There's no 525 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Has done everything you could do. Wanted 526 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: to only wear the Dodgers' uniform. They have been the 527 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Kelvin, you know this where they 528 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: thought he was going to play for the Texas Rangers. 529 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: He's from outside of Dallas, and they figured that he would, 530 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, call a career. A lot of great pictures 531 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: have gone on to play somewhere else, and he didn't 532 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: want to do that. He wanted to be a Dodger 533 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: and that and the Dodgers allowed him, even through his 534 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: struggles and all the injuries or whatever, to still remain. 535 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: And this right here makes sense to me at this time. 536 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: And the Dodgers make this announcement because he's starting tomorrow 537 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: night against the Giants, and. 538 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: That that's the reason. 539 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, they wanted to make sure people wanted to 540 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: be there that could be And you don't know how 541 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: the playoffs work out, who's starting, you know, if they 542 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: get knocked out, if they're in a wild card. You 543 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: don't know if you'll ever get to pitch a Dodger 544 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: state him again. The only thing they're sure of is 545 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: that he's going to start tomorrow night. 546 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: One, correct, Robert, I remember I was on the I 547 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 6: did pre and post game last Saturday, and he was pitching. 548 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: I believe that he pitched that day and we were 549 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: talking about it on the air. 550 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: Yep. 551 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 6: It was it was he was pitching that that we 552 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 6: kept saying about how this could be his last time 553 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 6: up in the Bay Area. This could be the last time, 554 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: because you know, to your point, just you gotta appreciate 555 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: these moments for a guy that legendary. And I like 556 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 6: that they said that because you never know the injuries, 557 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 6: you never know a thing how things go. This might 558 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 6: be his last one tomorrow, So you're right about that. 559 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 6: Gun to announce that now. 560 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: But now when we look at his career, Okay, curse 561 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Shaw for a long time struggling in the postseason. He did, 562 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: and he finally broke through in twenty twenty when they 563 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: won the COVID Championship in Arlington. I was there. I 564 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: covered that with fourteen thousand people. You know, it had 565 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: to be weird, yep, And it was very weird. And 566 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: they did win the World Series finally, but he pitched 567 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: well in that series. He didn't play last year when 568 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: the Dodgers beat the Yankees in the World Series in 569 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so he has two World Series rings, 570 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: but he did get the one you know, in twenty 571 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty and now so people always thinking about But he 572 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: had a great regular season career. And then the flip 573 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: side would be Eli Manning, who and I'm not saying 574 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: he had terror Well, he was the greatest quarterback during 575 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: the regular season, but he top ten in touchdowns and 576 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: completions top ten. 577 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: But the question would be which career would you rather have? 578 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: And of course Eli came through big time, beat the 579 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: Patriots and Tom Brady twice, MVP twice. 580 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: I mean he excelled. 581 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean being at the eighteen and old Patriots team, right, 582 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean that was huge, That's legendary. He has two 583 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: signature throws in that would you rather have Clayton Kershaw's 584 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: total body of work which includes championships but a lot 585 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: of failure though in the postseason leading up to that championship, 586 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: but spectacular regular seasons or good regular seasons and great 587 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: postseason Like Eli Manning? 588 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: Where are you? 589 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 6: I thought about this when you know we were coming 590 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 6: up with this, because they both have kind of the 591 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 6: other thing. Eli, You almost think of nothing else but 592 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 6: a couple of clutch throws, you know what I mean? 593 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 6: So when you think of him, immediately go to the 594 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: great things, where unfortunately, for some people, not a lot, 595 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 6: and I don't think it's the vast majority, but for 596 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 6: some when they think of Clayton Kershaw, they might think 597 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 6: of seventh innings, like, oh God, so he comes to 598 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 6: seventh inning. 599 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 3: Think of some of those bad home runs he gave up. 600 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying. A lot of that was 601 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: seventh inning. 602 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 6: But I thought about it, and I'm going with Clayton 603 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 6: Kershaw for a couple of reasons. Rob Number one, the 604 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 6: chance for you to be deemed many might say the 605 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 6: best of your era, or some might even say the 606 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: best of the last you know, fifty years or what 607 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 6: have you, and that generation for sure. And you think 608 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: of the guys in his duration, the Schurzers and the 609 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: Verlanders and depending on you know what, how far back 610 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: we go. But there's a handful of other guys that 611 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 6: could be considered in his generation. 612 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: That's a compliment of the utmost for him. 613 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 6: So I'd rather have Clayton Kershaw, where I'm absolutely considered 614 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 6: one of the best of all time, and a sport 615 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: that's been around for like one hundred and fifty sixty 616 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: years and that is a huge accomplishment. 617 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: Also, you and I talk about this. 618 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 6: There's the one benefit baseball players have and then is 619 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: that we don't necessarily deem winning has to be associated 620 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 6: with you. Right, If you're Mike Trout for dag near 621 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: a decade, he was the best player. 622 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, this teams won winning normally, You're right. 623 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: The only thing is and that's usually with like position 624 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: pitch players like a Barry Bonds who can't pitch, so 625 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: you can't blame him when when the Giants couldn't hold 626 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: the lead in the world. 627 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. 628 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Kershaw's different because he's the pitcher and he could pitch 629 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: a no hitter, he could pitch a complete game. 630 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: He could stemy the other team and win the game. 631 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: Little. 632 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: I will grant you, right, normally, normally with a position player. 633 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: But the only reason so I will grant you that. 634 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 6: But the other part of it is I could pitch 635 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: amazing six and then the bullpen, as we've seen the 636 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 6: Dodgers do for the last two three weeks, bullpen blow 637 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 6: it up as well and give it up. So it's 638 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 6: just difficult in baseball because we don't have to hold 639 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: you to that standard of you know, you won seventeen championships, 640 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 6: but I'm going Clayton Kerscharld to be considered one of 641 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 6: the best ever at Something is an amazing feat And 642 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 6: I got to be privy a part of multiple World 643 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: Series appearances, but specifically two wins and titles. 644 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 4: I just think that's remarkable. 645 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 6: And he's kind of been one of those guys you 646 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: never question is his will, You never questioned his desire. 647 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: He gives you it is all and that's been part 648 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: of his makeup. 649 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 6: And I think he's enjoyed the ride the last go 650 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 6: round to kind of be the guy who'd help the 651 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 6: young guys up. I can help the walker Buelers who 652 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 6: came up clutch for them to get that win last season. 653 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 6: I can help these guys out, these young guys. I 654 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 6: could be a part of that and kind of change 655 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 6: his attitude because you know, he's been known for being 656 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 6: a little tightly wound when it comes to his start 657 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 6: days and all those kinds of things. So at the 658 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 6: end of it, give me the guy who had one 659 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 6: of the greatest careers ever at Something. The heart one 660 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 6: of the hardest positions in all the sports, and I 661 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: have two World Series rings to boot. 662 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take that. 663 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get it in Clerkshaw's numbers, and 664 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: you were talking about the bullpen blowing it, but his 665 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: he alays four point. 666 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: Four to nine. 667 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: It ain't good. 668 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't be any worse than that, you know, 669 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: and which is way higher than his two five four lifetime. 670 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: Imagine that from four two five four regular season of 671 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: four point four to nine, so it's a big jump, 672 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: and his playoff record is only thirteen and thirteen. 673 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: He's a much better picture than that. 674 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but it would be hard for me to argue 675 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: as great as Eli's moments were, and they were great. 676 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean to throw to Manningham the ti H David 677 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Tyree helmet thing, and that wasn't even a win the 678 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: game winner, you know. He also had to throw the 679 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: ball of Plexico here to win the game. So as 680 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: as great as those moments were, it's hard to pick 681 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Eli in this moment because of that. But but Eli 682 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: makes a strong case from the standpoint of the Patriots 683 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: were undefeated. 684 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: He beat that team. A lot of people, not me, 685 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: considered you know. 686 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 7: Uh uh, Tom Brady to beat the goat, he beat 687 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 7: Tom Brady twice, you know what I mean, Like during 688 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 7: that time when Tom Brady had that nine year drought, 689 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 7: it was because of Eli Manning. 690 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: So but the overall it would be different. 691 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: I think we would have a different conversation because if 692 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Kershaw didn't win twenty twenty and I'm not counting last 693 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: year because he didn't pitch right, right, but if he 694 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't win twenty twenty, I would have taken Eli. 695 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: And I get that because he had some huge moments. 696 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 6: He even came out the bullpen in twenty twenty, uh 697 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 6: basically doing whatever they wanted. 698 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: No, he did, he did his thing, he did, he won, 699 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: just whatever they want. 700 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: To get my point though, right, if he didn't win that, 701 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: you know what Eli was able to do in those 702 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: moments was incredible. 703 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: And you know what else to me would also to 704 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: add to Clay Kershaw. 705 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 6: I do think that's the beauty of his journey was 706 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 6: that it wasn't easy. I didn't just walk right in 707 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: and win a bunch of championships, and you know, I 708 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 6: wasn't maybe that part of that ninety six run with 709 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 6: the Yankees where we just boom boom, boom boom. We 710 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 6: ran out four straight and like he had great performances, 711 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 6: horrible performances, things you wish you had back, the ups, 712 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 6: the downs, you know, going to the World Series and losing, 713 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: you got the whole Houston trashtros oops, I mean Astro's thing. 714 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 6: And so like, that's part of the beauty of twenty 715 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 6: twenty for him being participating and being participatory in that win, 716 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 6: and then even twenty twenty four, just like, look at 717 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: the culmination. Now I'm the old wilely vet getting to 718 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: be around these young guys and mentor them up. So 719 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 6: I think the full ride, the full spectrum of a 720 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 6: professional career is also what Clayton Kershaw had