WEBVTT - Affairs, Adderall and PTA moms 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:06.320 Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.360 hosted by me Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen, 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.760 and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.040 Each week, we continue our rewatch of Desperate Housewives and 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.880 discuss all the fascinating topics inspired by this incredible show. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.200 This week is such a good one. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:26.040 It's such a good one. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.080 Let's dive into episode six, Running to stand Still, which 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.280 aired on November seventh, two thousand and four. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.760 What a jam packed hour. In this episode, the tension 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.800 between Gabrielle and her mother in law hits a new 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.199 high or low, depending on how you look at it. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.720 Oh my, it does go low, and Lynette finds herself 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.839 taking some pretty extreme measures to live up to the 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.839 elusive task of being a mom who is trying to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:52.360 do it all. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.600 Susan and Julie sneak into a juvenile mental health facility 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.840 as one does, yes, you know, casual, and we get 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:03.520 a very sexually charged storyline from Brie which features a 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:04.920 pretty iconic burrito. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.240 And yeah, we are gonna get more on that burrito later. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:08.920 Yes we are. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.000 We definitely are. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.120 Okay, So we like to start our episode by hearing 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:19.240 each other's most desperate moment. Our most favorite desperate moment, Andrea. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.800 Mine, I would say is Lynette taking her kid's add 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.360 medication to finish the costumes for the school play. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:25.800 That is bad. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.280 Although as the only actual mother of the three of us, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.560 I'm just gonna say, well, I never did that. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.320 It is totally relatable. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.000 I feel like my most desperate moment has to be 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.360 Gabby dropping her mother in law off at a casino 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.920 to go into crippling debt fueled by her gambling addiction, 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.880 just to cover up an affair with a minor. She 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.920 is a pretty. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.640 Rough mother in law. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.840 I mean, I you know, she may deserve it, and 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.480 it is a very complicated situation. Okay, Well Mine and 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.400 I don't know if this is desperate because it's it's 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:05.240 also rave, and also she's glorious looking. But I found 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.000 the fact that Brie put on this unbelievably sexy red 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.640 underwear lingerie with a mink fur coat over it and 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:20.800 shows up at her husband's hotel room desperate to basically 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:21.840 get him to fuck her. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:23.760 I don't know. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.160 I felt like that was that was that was a 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.359 bottomed out moment. But although also an iconic one. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.560 Yeah, I think the motel made that worse the hotel 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.960 room itself, the motel. Okay, well, we clearly have so 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.000 much more to explore here, so let's get into episode six. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.280 Yes, oh my gosh, running to Standstill, which actually is 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.200 one of the few other non son time lyric episodes. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.840 This is named after a U two song. Oh okay, 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.960 very of the era. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.040 I wonder if Mark Cherry is a big you two 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.880 fano another thing we have to ask him. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.280 You need to keep a scorecard of that. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:04.160 Also, I find this episode amazing, as they all are. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.200 I think the battle that Gabby is having with her 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.440 mother in law mother in law is just epic. And 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.600 Brie and Rex and you know, the continuing dissolution of 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.680 the positivity of their marriage is very interesting to look at. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.680 Yeah, and we started this episode with a garage sale, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:25.880 a yard sale, which I. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.280 Just have to say, My mom is a huge fan 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.960 of yard sales. The second I saw Susan in a 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.640 yard sale, I was like, Okay, she wasn't trying too hard. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.560 Terry, are you a fan of having yard sales or 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:38.520 going to yards sales? 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.640 Going two yards? Ye? 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.440 Now, I mean, you know, I know, when my parents 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.240 moved out of the home that I grew up in 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.160 and they lived in. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.200 For forty years, they had a garage. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.800 Sale and I helped them, you know, like T shirts 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.520 for a quarter on the lawn, that kind of yard sale. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.120 And I've had a yard sale back when maybe I 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.520 was pregnant with you or maybe you were just born. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.760 But I had a yard sale out in Shadow Hills 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.480 where I used to live in Los Angeles, and the 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.440 pop Rozzi came and it ended up in those days 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.440 it was the National Choir that was the big tabloid magazine, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.799 and it was like some sort of horrible how pathetic 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.479 is she that she has to have a garage And 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.200 I like it maybe look like a total loser that 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.200 I had a garage sale, And I was like, garage 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:33.680 sales are fun, reuse, repurpose. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.880 You know. I have so many memories of going to 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.760 garage sales. I remember my mom and I we would 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.960 drive around LA on the weekends and sometimes we would 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.160 see in a state sale sign and it would be 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.920 the most exciting thing ever and we'd go and we'd 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.760 follow it. And I mean at the time, I was 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.520 a kid, so I was always looking for like vintage 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:54.360 figurines or anything equestrian related. Yeah, but I still I. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.039 Tell you them sometimes as well. First of all, I 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.680 was going to use set a state sale. I do 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.760 think this is something I give very hung up on. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.280 Like you get to somebody's estate sale and you're like, uh, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:10.000 this is a yard sale. This is the yeah, yeah, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:15.159 misleading advertising. I'm just saying anyway, But sometimes I don't 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.400 buy anything. Sometimes I'm just so curious about other people's lives, 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:21.720 which I guess leads. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:22.760 Us really right into the show. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.520 I do have one very quick, wonderful garage sale story experience. Okay, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.479 so we were having a garage sale, estate sale. I 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.640 don't know, we were selling a lot. I have a 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.120 large family. There's always a lot to sell anyway, and 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.520 a woman came over to me holding a pair of 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:43.000 very cute high heels that we had been mine, and 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.400 she asked me if I had them in another size. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:51.800 Oh my gosh, it's not a store, I was, lady. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.560 This is a yard sale, not Bloomingdale's. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.520 But oh my gosh, that's so funny, you know, and 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.159 it just made me think. Actually, one other personal story 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.000 there was a while I don't know if you remember 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.599 this when I was doing the celebrity yard sale to 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.920 benefit at the Juvenile Arthritis, and I did one at 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.839 the Americana, I did one at our house, and I 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.240 would get different celebrities to donate their stuff and all 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.120 the money went to Juvenile Arthritis, which which I was 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.880 I was a what do you call it when you spokesperson? Yes, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.320 I guess, and that was kind of through Children's Hospital 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.760 Los Angeles, which I still work with. But anyways, Yes, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.600 so people seem to be very generous with their used goods. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.839 Yes, well, and so is Paul. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.880 He's like, I don't know if he's generous or he 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:35.920 just wasn't get rid of. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.400 Yeah, he's currently offloading, which leads to Susan buying it's 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.440 a crystal bowl, crystal of oz. But what he wraps 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.120 it in is even more important. That's going to come 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.080 back later, that yellow blanket. Yes, And I love that 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.520 Susan is snooping around and asks about his swollen lip 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.640 and how he got it, and he goes the regular 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.240 way for asking too many questions. Right, Yeah, he is 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.480 just such a good villain, he really is. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 And he only is getting more villainous, you know, which 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.760 I kind of didn't remember, and obviously Mark Moses is 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:13.040 not like that. But yeah, it's he's he's sneaky this episode, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:13.440 for sure. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.760 I think it's coming from some I mean, I mean 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.440 this is interesting to him. We'll be interesting as we 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.120 get to talk to some of these people. You know, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.680 sometimes in the arc of a series like this, I 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.960 don't even think the writers know where they're going. You know, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.760 there might be some general direction, but they don't really 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.800 necessarily always get it all. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.600 Planned out right. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.600 And I feel like for an actor like Mark, for 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.320 any good actor, if the writers aren't able to tell 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.920 you the story, like why is he behaving this way? 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:45.440 What? 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:45.960 What is he. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.120 Digging out of the pool? Maybe the writers don't actually 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.400 know yet. They just it's a cool scene to have 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.560 him digging out of the pool, but like, maybe they 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.480 haven't executed that thought yet. And as the actor, you 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.120 have to make it up for yourself otherwise, even if 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.040 it's wrong, you got to make up something otherwise it's 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.240 not grounded in anything. So it's interesting to see these 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.400 guys do their performances as well. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.720 Yeah, we also got a great guest star this week 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.800 in Sharon moranch who plays the unlikable irritating Mazie Gibbons, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:20.240 but she plays her so well those as Yes, but she. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.360 Does yeah at all. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.160 Yeah. Yeah, So she and Lynette really butt horns this 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.440 episode as Lynette is trying to get settled in the 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.079 new school with the twins, and I thought this was 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.880 a really interesting storyline. I'm excited to discuss it with 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.080 you guys about the rewriting of Little Red Riding Hood. Yes, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.720 because it feels topical as this show we continue to discover, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.680 continues to feel so topical these days and relevant still 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.240 that someone is suggesting an edit or a rewrite of 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.319 a children's story to make it more palatable for the children. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:54.600 Yeah. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:55.880 Yeah, and that Yeah. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.760 I took note of this too, that this felt like 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:03.240 a very early idea of what isically correct speaking, and 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:08.040 I continue to fall, I mean, especially these days, on 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.920 the side of we can't be censoring what books are 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:18.680 taught in schools, what makes certain people uncomfortable. But it 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.840 was interesting to see in two thousand and four a 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.240 character like Lynnette bringing up a. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.679 Pushback, a push on somebody trying to nice, nice everything, Yeah, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:29.520 and pointing out. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.000 So well that it doesn't make any sense that the 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.880 literal big bad Wolf is gonna not be big and 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.760 bad because then what is little red riding hood working against? 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.080 What is the adversity? What does the huntsman do? I mean, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.920 I think she dissects that really well. But it also 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.559 made me laugh about just the politics of PTA in schools. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.560 Yeah, Mom, did you ever deal with that? 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.160 I mean, did the closest. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.080 I get to that, which is not really PTA, but 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.360 it is an example of it's hilarious I think is 0:09:58.400 --> 0:09:59.640 that I used to have. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.760 These big Easter parties. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.880 I threw a lot of parties, but I still do. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:05.320 That's true. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.040 But the Easter parties were giant picnics. I think I'm 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.920 not exaggerate to say that I hid over five hundred 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.200 of those little plastic eggs that break in half and 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.319 you put like candy or toys or whatever, and then and. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.280 The whole there would be like a petting zoo. I mean, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:21.920 it was a whole. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.520 I think we actually ended up with a cat. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.800 We did cat tracks. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.400 Anyways, Sometimes people, some of the moms would bring food 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.480 to put up, almost in a potlux sort of way, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:39.640 And this one woman brought a cheesecake, and this cheesecake 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.040 was truly one of the best cheesecakes. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:46.880 I've know which woman you're talking about. Amazing baker is. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.440 An amazing baker. It's true. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.360 And so I said to her, I go, you know, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.000 this is really the best cheesecake I've ever had. Do 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.080 you think would you share the recipe with me? And 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:02.720 she said no, I cannot, And I was like, oh, okay, okay, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.160 you know, just seeing all right. But then she tops 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.040 it and this is what kind of reminds me of Mazie. Yeah, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.920 she goes, she goes, what and even if I did, 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:12.760 you wouldn't be able to make it? 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.160 Oh wow? One two Puna. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.120 I was not involved really in that kind of PTA issue, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:27.200 per se. I feel like that touches the same mothers 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.560 of students and they're all like protecting their turf and their. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.640 That feels generational way too, because now we have a 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.000 term all over the internet about this, which is gatekeeping, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.800 you know, and people just don't gatekeep or they don't 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.520 consider gatekeeping a good thing. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.959 So she was gate gaping the cheesecake. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.120 Plus it was probably the cheesecake recipie on the back 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.400 of Philadelphia or the cream face. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.679 So I don't know, she's a very good does it 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.280 makes me. Think about the conversation that the women have 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.880 when they get together to play cards, when they talk 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.439 about how men and in fight, Yeah, like the different 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:08.080 ways and this cheesecake comment, just like the PTA. And 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.600 later when Lynnette does, you know, prevail on not changing 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.760 little Red riding hood, but then get saddled with having 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.679 to make all of these costumes and she kind of 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.679 gets that snide look from the PTA queen mom who says, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.600 you know, oh, I'm sure you're not going to be 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.600 able to pull off making all those costumes. You know, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.680 even if I gave you the recipe to the cheesecake, 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.320 you wouldn't be able to make it, right. I think 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.560 that is the difference between how men and women fight. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.240 Men will go punch someone in the face and then 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:40.679 it's over, and women will repeatedly knife you with comments 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.160 until your self esteem is entirely destroyed, and you think 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.240 about it twenty years later. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.560 You think that's really true. I guess it really is. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.880 I don't want it to be true. I want you. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:53.320 Hear so much about women supporting women, and I sometimes 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.959 they do, and I know in my life, I mean, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.320 we're three women, we're all supporting each other. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:59.120 Yeah, like you know. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.679 I I'm a champion of that, have so many women 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:08.400 in my life, and but you do. Still it's a 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.560 stereotype for a reason that there is this you know, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.040 actually it is. I heard some you know, some of 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.000 the variety or like Hollywood Reporter, they have these like 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.560 round tables of Emmy nominated actresses. I love those, I 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.360 do too, and they I don't remember exactly who it was, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.600 but it was kind of in the last recent years, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:28.720 and so some set. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.960 Of really fabulous actresses. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.800 Again I'm not gonna remember exactly who it was, but 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.240 one of them I do remember, talked about they must 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.280 have been older, because they talked about how the way 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.320 women are supportive of each other now is not the 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.959 way it was like twenty or. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.720 Thirty years ago, and maybe it was. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.000 And I think they were making the point that the 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:56.600 studio didn't foster like it was not in the studio's 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.839 interests right for everybody to be supporting each other, for 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.080 the women to be connecting and empowering each other, and 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.600 obviously it's almost unionization in a way. It's you can 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.040 see that somebody would not benefit from all the women. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.760 Camaraderie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw a clip recently kind 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.040 of piggybacking on that, which was I think it was 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.080 a few years ago, and it was at I want 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.840 to say, the Emmys, and it was when all of 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.320 the nominees for Best Lead Actors in a Comedy all 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.760 when as soon as their names were announced, just as 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.640 being nominated, they walked right up on stage. It was 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.720 Amy Puller, she walked right up, and then Melisa McCarthy 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.760 and she walked right up, and then you know, eighty 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.960 Falco walked right up, and they kept doing this and 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.600 then they stood on stage together and then the winner 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.760 was announced and they all hugged her. It was Melissa 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.440 McCarthy that year, and they all just surrounded her and 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.680 hugged her, and she looked very shocked, but it was 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.200 so moving. I think I got to hear that. Yeah, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.000 And I don't know, I don't remember seeing that in 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.600 real time, but anyway, I did think that this was 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.560 also a very interesting theme in this episode, and I 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.320 wonder as we go exploring the show more, the types 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.320 of conflicts we will witness between the housewives and how 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.480 they resolve their conflicts. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.280 Yeah, and I think this is also a big turning 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.160 point for Lynette's character, I feel like her children getting 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:21.280 into which also where's the baby? But her two children 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.840 getting into this new school. I feel like we start 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:29.080 to see her identity shift to trying to We don't 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.320 really see her feel competitive with the other women on 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.280 the block. Maybe there's a comment, oh, she's not as 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.720 perfect as bree Vandicamp, but then again, like who is? 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.160 But I kind of see her start to get competitive 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.280 with the other women she suddenly faced as moms in 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.720 the school. I'm going, Okay, if I'm not a working 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.760 mom anymore, if I'm a stay at home mom, how 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.320 do I compete with these other parents who are you know, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.560 perform whatever it means to perform well as a stay 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.080 at home mom. Yeah, and of course you know she 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.000 it leads her to to drugs. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.520 Right right, because the question of how do how does 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.000 one do it all? Is often the answer is there's 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:12.320 they can't they can't write, and so there's usually something 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.000 behind the scenes helping you. And in this in this episode, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.880 we will find out that one of the other moms 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.760 is using her child's out all yes, her children's add medication, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.920 and Lynette sort of considers it and ultimately ends up 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.200 succoming as she then has that line when she looks 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.560 at herself in the mirror and her eyes are all 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.560 dilated and Lynette says, oh, what big eyes you have? 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.880 Who Yeah, tie. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.400 Us right back in the little red riding hood. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.080 Yeah, speaking of good lines. So then we have still 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:45.560 we've got Gabby having her whole exposure of her affair 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.520 getting more and more stressful. And there was a scene 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:55.000 where she actually does even does the most perfect spit take. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.080 But I could. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.160 Have done a spit take while I was watching the 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.760 show if I had been drinking something, because that's how 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:07.160 brilliant it is. But she uh says that, I guess, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.800 I guess No. Bree says, both John and Danielle are 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:16.159 in the Abstinence Club and you see Yavvy just do 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.960 this fit take in front of her mother in law. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.359 This is at the poker game, which then. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.919 Yes, before yes, I wonder if Eva practiced. I feel like, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:28.960 there have you ever had to do a spit take, Terry, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.000 I have, I have. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.399 I don't know if I did it in this show, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.800 I have this whole series, right, but I definitely have 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:37.399 in my career. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.560 I just think it's such a great gag. When someone 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.720 nails it, and I would feel so much pressure to 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.080 try to do it justice and I wonder if it 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.160 was a good one. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:46.760 Yeah. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.440 I did also notice in this episode that John only 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:56.680 calls Gabrielle mississles and I did, as we are continued 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.960 to be fascinated by this dynamic playing out in front 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.720 of us. I did note that, you know, it's it's 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.000 so funny and cringey that he only ever calls her 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:12.560 missus Elise and she never yeah, yeah, never said I 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:13.400 think she's into it. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:14.560 Yeah, I think she must be. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:20.280 Yeah wait, speaking of being into it, but okay, moving 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.560 into it. Before the women sit down to play poker, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.080 and then we have the other missus Sole swindle them 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.040 all out of their money because she's such a card shark. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.119 We have Brie and Rex back in their therapist's office 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.719 and Rex suggests, and I was like, wait, is this 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.879 a Y two K thing I don't know about? And 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.000 now we're just calling it something else in today's age? 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:52.760 He suggests getting a sexual surrogate, and I is this 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.200 is this helped me understand? Is this like a three? 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.320 So I can't help you because I also wrote down 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.600 what is a sexual surrogate. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:07.000 But I actually think that there may be medical intes procedures. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.640 No, I mean, I don't know, like. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.080 In a loving relationship, and we were not able to 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:19.119 make that part of our relationship work. And I really 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.280 love this person. I don't know that I would be 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.480 opposed to having somebody teach me. I mean once, okay, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:32.879 when I was no, No, when I was twenty, I 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.000 think I had like some girlfriend teach me how to 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.879 give a blowjob on a beer bottle. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:39.200 A beer bottle. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.600 Wow, that makes sense, I guess, but it's so. And 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.320 there was a lot of discussion about the rim and 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.879 what you were supposed to focus on, and there was 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.399 also some conversation about your hand and how it was 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.960 supposed to sort of twist and not just go straight 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:55.520 up and down. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.640 Okay, it was a very detailed and she was your 0:19:58.720 --> 0:19:59.439 sexual Surguy. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.040 What she's going, oh my god about it is the 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.520 fact that I don't remember what happened yesterday, but somehow 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.960 I remember this beer model. So I so I'm just 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.760 saying I that was just between girlfriends, right, And. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:17.520 That's every man's fantasy, having that conversation with beer involved. 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.760 It's of course, this is you. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.360 And the other thing I did was I showed you 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.440 how to put a condom on a banana. 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:30.280 Yeah, okay, we're straying far away, Okay from the sexual 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:32.040 we're talking. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.520 About teaching about sexual things. Yeah, that far away, but. 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:40.440