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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch

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Speaker 1: hosted by me Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen,

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Speaker 1: and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney.

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Speaker 2: Each week, we continue our rewatch of Desperate Housewives and

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Speaker 2: discuss all the fascinating topics inspired by this incredible show.

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Speaker 3: This week is such a good one.

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Speaker 4: It's such a good one.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into episode six, Running to stand Still, which

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Speaker 3: aired on November seventh, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 5: What a jam packed hour. In this episode, the tension

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Speaker 5: between Gabrielle and her mother in law hits a new

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Speaker 5: high or low, depending on how you look at it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, it does go low, and Lynette finds herself

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Speaker 2: taking some pretty extreme measures to live up to the

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Speaker 2: elusive task of being a mom who is trying to

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Speaker 2: do it all.

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Speaker 3: Susan and Julie sneak into a juvenile mental health facility

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Speaker 3: as one does, yes, you know, casual, and we get

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Speaker 3: a very sexually charged storyline from Brie which features a

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Speaker 3: pretty iconic burrito.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, we are gonna get more on that burrito later.

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Speaker 4: Yes we are.

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Speaker 5: We definitely are.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we like to start our episode by hearing

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Speaker 2: each other's most desperate moment. Our most favorite desperate moment, Andrea.

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Speaker 3: Mine, I would say is Lynette taking her kid's add

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Speaker 3: medication to finish the costumes for the school play.

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Speaker 4: That is bad.

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Speaker 2: Although as the only actual mother of the three of us,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, well, I never did that.

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Speaker 4: It is totally relatable.

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Speaker 5: I feel like my most desperate moment has to be

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Speaker 5: Gabby dropping her mother in law off at a casino

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Speaker 5: to go into crippling debt fueled by her gambling addiction,

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Speaker 5: just to cover up an affair with a minor. She

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Speaker 5: is a pretty.

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Speaker 4: Rough mother in law.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, she may deserve it, and

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Speaker 2: it is a very complicated situation. Okay, Well Mine and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is desperate because it's it's

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Speaker 2: also rave, and also she's glorious looking. But I found

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Speaker 2: the fact that Brie put on this unbelievably sexy red

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Speaker 2: underwear lingerie with a mink fur coat over it and

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Speaker 2: shows up at her husband's hotel room desperate to basically

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I felt like that was that was that was a

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Speaker 2: bottomed out moment. But although also an iconic one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the motel made that worse the hotel

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Speaker 3: room itself, the motel. Okay, well, we clearly have so

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Speaker 3: much more to explore here, so let's get into episode six.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh my gosh, running to Standstill, which actually is

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Speaker 5: one of the few other non son time lyric episodes.

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Speaker 5: This is named after a U two song. Oh okay,

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Speaker 5: very of the era.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Mark Cherry is a big you two

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Speaker 2: fano another thing we have to ask him.

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Speaker 4: You need to keep a scorecard of that.

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Speaker 2: Also, I find this episode amazing, as they all are.

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Speaker 2: I think the battle that Gabby is having with her

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Speaker 2: mother in law mother in law is just epic. And

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Speaker 2: Brie and Rex and you know, the continuing dissolution of

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Speaker 2: the positivity of their marriage is very interesting to look at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we started this episode with a garage sale,

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Speaker 3: a yard sale, which I.

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Speaker 5: Just have to say, My mom is a huge fan

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Speaker 5: of yard sales. The second I saw Susan in a

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Speaker 5: yard sale, I was like, Okay, she wasn't trying too hard.

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Speaker 3: Terry, are you a fan of having yard sales or

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Speaker 3: going to yards sales?

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Speaker 5: Going two yards? Ye?

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean, you know, I know, when my parents

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Speaker 4: For forty years, they had a garage.

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Speaker 2: Sale and I helped them, you know, like T shirts

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Speaker 2: for a quarter on the lawn, that kind of yard sale.

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Speaker 2: And I've had a yard sale back when maybe I

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Speaker 2: But I had a yard sale out in Shadow Hills

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Speaker 5: You know. I have so many memories of going to

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Speaker 5: figurines or anything equestrian related. Yeah, but I still I.

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Speaker 2: Tell you them sometimes as well. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: Like you get to somebody's estate sale and you're like, uh,

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Speaker 2: this is a yard sale. This is the yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do have one very quick, wonderful garage sale story experience. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so we were having a garage sale, estate sale. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, we were selling a lot. I have a

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Speaker 3: large family. There's always a lot to sell anyway, and

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Speaker 3: very cute high heels that we had been mine, and

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Speaker 3: she asked me if I had them in another size.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's not a store, I was, lady.

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Speaker 3: This is a yard sale, not Bloomingdale's.

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Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, that's so funny, you know, and

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Speaker 2: it just made me think. Actually, one other personal story

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Speaker 2: there was a while I don't know if you remember

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Speaker 2: this when I was doing the celebrity yard sale to

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Speaker 2: the money went to Juvenile Arthritis, which which I was

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Speaker 2: I was a what do you call it when you spokesperson? Yes,

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Speaker 2: so people seem to be very generous with their used goods.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know if he's generous or he

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's currently offloading, which leads to Susan buying it's

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Speaker 5: back later, that yellow blanket. Yes, And I love that

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Speaker 5: Susan is snooping around and asks about his swollen lip

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Speaker 5: way for asking too many questions. Right, Yeah, he is

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Speaker 3: And he only is getting more villainous, you know, which

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Speaker 3: I kind of didn't remember, and obviously Mark Moses is

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Speaker 2: I think it's coming from some I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: there might be some general direction, but they don't really

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Speaker 2: And I feel like for an actor like Mark, for

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Speaker 2: Digging out of the pool? Maybe the writers don't actually

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we also got a great guest star this week

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So she and Lynette really butt horns this

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Speaker 3: you guys about the rewriting of Little Red Riding Hood. Yes,

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Speaker 3: because it feels topical as this show we continue to discover,

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Speaker 2: Pushback, a push on somebody trying to nice, nice everything, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So well that it doesn't make any sense that the

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Speaker 5: I think she dissects that really well. But it also

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mom, did you ever deal with that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, did the closest.

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Speaker 2: I get to that, which is not really PTA, but

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Speaker 2: it is an example of it's hilarious I think is

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Speaker 4: These big Easter parties.

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Speaker 2: I threw a lot of parties, but I still do.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: But the Easter parties were giant picnics. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: not exaggerate to say that I hid over five hundred

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Speaker 2: of those little plastic eggs that break in half and

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Speaker 4: The whole there would be like a petting zoo. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think we actually ended up with a cat.

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Speaker 4: We did cat tracks.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Sometimes people, some of the moms would bring food

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Speaker 2: And this one woman brought a cheesecake, and this cheesecake

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Speaker 5: I've know which woman you're talking about. Amazing baker is.

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Speaker 4: An amazing baker. It's true.

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Speaker 2: And so I said to her, I go, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is really the best cheesecake I've ever had. Do

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Speaker 3: I just think it's such a great gag. When someone

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Speaker 2: It's kind of falls into Remember another episode we Andrew

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Speaker 2: an hour long. Usually comedies are not an hour long show.

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00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: Usually that almost automatically makes you a drama, a drama,

442
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: but it was clearly so funny.

443
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 4: That it could.

444
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: It was isn't gonna be able to stand against an

445
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: out and out like cop show drama, you know, the

446
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: hospital kind of thing, right and rightly so it ended

447
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: up in the comedy section, but it's it's also not

448
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: a sitcom, you know. And and writing that that very

449
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: fine line, I think they did extremely well, at least

450
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: in the beginning.

451
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 3: I do want to because we're talking about the Breeze stuff,

452
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 3: I do want to include that my personal favorite line

453
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: in this episode was a bree line, and it is

454
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 3: when she is sitting at the lunch that she ends

455
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: up having my line, Oh my gosh, im sending I

456
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: have the same favorite line. And she has this moment

457
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: where she kind of pleads with her therapist who she

458
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 3: sees out at lunch, to turn it into an impromptu session,

459
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: and he reluctantly gives in and she sits with him,

460
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: and she brings up the sex stuff that keeps coming

461
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: up in therapy sessions with Rex, and she says, after

462
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: being accused of maybe that she doesn't like sex or

463
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: that she's closed off and cold, she says this long

464
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: paragraph about all of the various things she loves about sex,

465
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: which is just divine and so amazing, and then she says,

466
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: to be honest, the only thing I don't like about

467
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: sex is the scrotum. I mean, it obviously has its

468
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: practical applications, but I'm just not a fan who is Okay.

469
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 5: I did write down also as my favorite line. I

470
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 5: know you said we were gonna have the same favorite line,

471
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: and I said, no, no, no, we're not. Mine is

472
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: so obscure, there's no way we're gonna have the same

473
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: favorite line. Well, we're both your daughter, oh obviously.

474
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: And we're not fans of the scrotum evidently.

475
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 5: Well, definitely not for me.

476
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband af there. Okay. I think we've found

477
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: out that the actor playing doctor Goldfine is the nephew

478
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: of Christopher Lloyd, the actor Christopher. And now that I'm

479
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: rewatching this, I think about that and I totally see it.

480
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: And he's doing such a great job as well. And

481
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: at the end of that scene, the server comes over

482
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: and she had just delivered that monologue about sex, and

483
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: he says another great moment, which is he says, can

484
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: I get you anything? And he says, just the check

485
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: and the server says, you haven't ordered yet.

486
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm so uncomfortable.

487
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: I need to get out of here, just so good.

488
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: Well, so then we have the poker go into the

489
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: poker game, which Gabby uses is an amazing opportunity to

490
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: say that she's having diarrhea so she can sneak out

491
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 5: the window and climb over a fence to get to

492
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 5: John the gardener. And I loved that poker was the

493
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: activity that these women get together to play, like a

494
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: reason they all come together. I mean, my mom and

495
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: I were part of an all women's poker league, very casual,

496
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: but I do think it's something that has maybe typically

497
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 5: thought of as being more masculine, and I really like

498
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 5: to see that that, you know, it wasn't all just

499
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 5: book club, although we do see that.

500
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Is this the first episode where we see the women

501
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: gathering for poker?

502
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 5: I feel like we've seen them alas time okay, right

503
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: in a flashback with.

504
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: Mary in a flashback? Yeah yeah, yes, but this is

505
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: the first time with money.

506
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

507
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: And also like I kind of I'm loosely recalling like

508
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: when this first came up and us as actual actresses,

509
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: like who actually played poker and who didn't play poker,

510
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: and I kind of feel like I maybe remember that

511
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: Eva did. She's from Texas and Texas hold him and

512
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: that makes sense, And I did because I grew up

513
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: playing poker with the Hatcher plan, you know, since the

514
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: time I could walk, and I think I think Felicity

515
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: did too, So I feel like there was some familiarity

516
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: to poker. But that was definitely Mark's call, like that

517
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: was something he applied to the show, that poker was

518
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: going to be a gathering point of these women, and

519
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: it started in those first few episodes and it stayed

520
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: for the entire run of the show.

521
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: And I still have a Desperate Housewives poker table and

522
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: personalized Desperate Housewives poker chips. I might have to bring

523
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: them in sometime because it was a GI It was a.

524
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: Wrap gift, yeah, from Mark for one season.

525
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

526
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: Actually feel like I.

527
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 5: Vaguely remember seeing a case of those chips.

528
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: Yep ye.

529
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but pretty cool.

530
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: But poker's a good tool.

531
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 2: It's a good tool to sit around a circle and

532
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: have characters have discussion. But also, you know, there's some

533
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: bluffing and bedding to it, you know, and it's.

534
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: Math, and yeah, I mean it's a. It's it kind

535
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: of tickles all the things I grew up playing Texas

536
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: hold as well, and I haven't played in a long time.

537
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I know I haven't played in a long time because

538
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: I did get weirded out how serious people get and

539
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: at least in the circles and that I was playing in.

540
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, it's too intense for me. I'm

541
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: gonna back, but maybe I should revisit as with my girlfriends. Maybe,

542
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: Well it.

543
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 5: Is, I mean, it is about who's bluffing, who's covering

544
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: something up, Who can you trust speaking up, speaking.

545
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 3: Bluffing and covering up, and who can you trust? Okay,

546
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: So Susan comes up with an idea to sneak I

547
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: follow borrow Ida Greenberg's car.

548
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: Which is I made a note about driving a stick

549
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 5: which you do know how to? Do you have a

550
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 5: TR three?

551
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 4: I do.

552
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: I have a nineteen sixty TR three that is a

553
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: stick shift. But I also grew up my first car.

554
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't even my car, it was my family's car.

555
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: This is so sad.

556
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: It was an orange Chevy Vega with a black stripe

557
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: down the side that was a stick shift with no

558
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: air conditioning and an eight track tape, man, am.

559
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: I old, anything's very cool?

560
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: Well, hi, And I learned to drive that, and I

561
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: drove that car in San Francisco on streets like Lombard

562
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Street and you know, like up, straight up, straight down.

563
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: So I do have that in my bag of tricks.

564
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: And I ever rolled down.

565
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: I'm seeing that Princess Diary scene when she can't get

566
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: up the hill and she rolls down and she's crying.

567
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Oh I never that never happened to me, but it.

568
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: But driving on those hills in San Francisco is quite

569
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: a lot. The scariest part is when you kind of

570
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: get to the top and you're like out of red

571
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: light and you can't really see over you know, like

572
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: yeah it's that kind of hill, and you're.

573
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna fall off.

574
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's.

575
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: It's uh anyways, So that's a good bag of trick

576
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: as a bag to I mean trick to having your

577
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: bag of tricks as an actor to be able to

578
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: drive a stick And I was able to drive it,

579
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: which means I was even able to not drive it,

580
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, like I know, when you know how something works, yes,

581
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: you can make.

582
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: It not work right, which Susan had to do.

583
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: Which Susan had to do. So that was that was fun.

584
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: So off you go, and you find out that Zach

585
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: is being not with obscure relatives, as Paul had said,

586
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: but actually is being held at some sort of mental

587
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: facility for juvenile troubled youth.

588
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not just off you go. Off you go

589
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: with your daughter, who you send in to the rehabilitation.

590
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: Just a brief aside about this. So I do remember

591
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: two things very vividly, and then I not observed one

592
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 3: more thing by watching. So the two things I remember

593
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: is I remember the line where Susan says, when Julie questions,

594
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: how can I blend in with these messed up kids?

595
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: Ouch?

596
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: But also Susan says, I don't know, Julie, pretend to

597
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: be Bellie mcgag a little. And I kind of remember

598
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: you flagging that or pushing back a little bit on that,

599
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: or at least feeling like, how should Susan say that?

600
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: You know, is it a throwaway thing? Or I don't

601
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: remember all you have, but I think we had a

602
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: chat about it because I think it was so good.

603
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: So I didn't remember that, But now that you're saying that,

604
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: it makes sense, because it makes sense.

605
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: What flagged for me was wow, like that I.

606
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: Don't know, I mean talk about the political correct thing

607
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: and what you would and wouldn't say.

608
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, this did not hold up the test of time

609
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: in terms of how you would refer to adolescence in

610
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: a mental health It's.

611
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: It's just super I mean, it's extremely callous, I guess,

612
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: just to as almost like a joke, say oh, I

613
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, do that. And so I imagine,

614
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: as I was a mom of a seven year old

615
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: at the time, I imagine that that maybe came up for me.

616
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: But then you're doing a comedy and sometimes it's the

617
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: right thing within there. But yeah, it sounds like we

618
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: all sort of flagged it.

619
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't you know, I didn't turn it off.

620
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: It wasn't horrible, but I didn't even kind of chuckle

621
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: at it. But I also went, you know, I wouldn't.

622
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I would choose to write that line

623
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: in this scenario to day.

624
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

625
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: The other thing I remembered was the scene that Julie

626
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: has with Zach where she finds him and he's so

627
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: zoned out because they have him up on all of

628
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: these drugs. We don't know what they are, but he's medicated.

629
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: And I remember filming that scene really well because it

630
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: was the first scene that I had on the show

631
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: that wasn't with Terry, that wasn't with Susan, And I

632
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: think I was nervous, you know, because I had gotten

633
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: so comfortable working with you and I we were enjoying

634
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: that so much, and then it felt, I mean, it

635
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: was exciting and nerve wracking to experience what it would

636
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: be like to work with one of the other actors

637
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: on the show. So I remember that. And then the

638
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: last thing that I noticed about this whole little sequence

639
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: that I happened to notice rewatching it, was why is

640
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: Julie wearing flip flops on this jaunt to this center?

641
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Be guys, the Word of Department didn't have any clothes.

642
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: So I used my own purse and my own necklaces

643
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: and my own whatever.

644
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: And I'm rock and flip flops sound Doug shout out

645
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: to our to ourselves.

646
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: And actually though I mean, and I'm not even I'm

647
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: not even dogging the War Department.

648
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it really was.

649
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: The show was a gigantic thing, yes, with a lot

650
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: of character. There are so many moving parts. It's so

651
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: many moving parts. And I do recall that it was

652
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: kind of always at some level of last minuteness. And

653
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was because of when we

654
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: got the scripts or you know, whatever, but it was

655
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: it was always like, you know, hanging on You're just

656
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: you're just hanging on you You're gonna get it, you know.

657
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't like you had luxurious amounts of time to

658
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: make everything work. And think about it, and I would

659
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: not be surprised if there were just no other shoes

660
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: and there were just flip flops and they didn't And

661
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: if you had said, do you have tennis shoes in

662
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: the size nine, you would have been and they would

663
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: have been. No.

664
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: I would have been that woman at the yard sale

665
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: at my yard sail asking for another size being shot down.

666
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: So in this scene where Julie is questioning Zach, she

667
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: has short on time. She's fearing like she's gonna get

668
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: kicked out.

669
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 5: But we do do a good job. You get racial information.

670
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Julie goes right in. She gets the nugget of information

671
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: we need, which is that she asks him, you'd told

672
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: Brie this thing about doing something bad. What were you

673
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 3: talking about and he says that he has started remembering

674
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: things since after his mom has passed, and one of

675
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: those things is that he remembers someone named Dana. And

676
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: that's this thing. This new part of our mystery involving

677
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: Zach and Paul and the Young family is that we

678
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: now have who is Dana to add into that mix.

679
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: And the tension is really continuing to escalate on all

680
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 5: fronts in the middle of this episode. So we have

681
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: the investigation into Paul, we get the Dana name, and

682
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 5: then we have Gabrielle learns that Juanita has a gambling

683
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: problem and drops her off under the guise of going

684
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: to a buffet at a casino, drops her off there

685
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: where she starts to lose all of her money, which

686
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: is going to come back at the end of the episode.

687
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: And then we have Brie showing up to really confront

688
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 5: Rex on the struggles in their marriage. And this is

689
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: the scene that you would referenced earlier Mom where she

690
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: shows up in that fabulous, fabulous code that honestly has

691
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: no business being at a motel. She looks way too

692
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 5: nice to be at some corner motel. And I loved

693
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: this scene and I also really loved her final scene

694
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 5: in this episode because I think both of them were

695
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 5: really building blocks on I know we're calling it desperation,

696
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 5: but I also think it's really brave.

697
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: I was gonna say bravery.

698
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really brave to be So just tie her

699
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: whole story together, because I really do think she puts herself.

700
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 5: Out there in such a vulnerable.

701
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Way, in such a vuln I mean, can you imagine

702
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: like standing in front of the person you love, all basically.

703
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 5: Naked, who's saying they want to leave you?

704
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

705
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and almost more vulnerable than being naked,

706
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: because when you wear lingerie, you're trying to say something, saying.

707
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 5: That you tried you, yeah, try to be sexy.

708
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: Right yeah, And then so not seen and so critically

709
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: judged for this quirk that she has this control quirk,

710
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: you could call it, right, I mean.

711
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: The way she's zeros in on that it's so fixated

712
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 3: and can't.

713
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: She just can't let it go, and and it wins

714
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: and then.

715
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 5: And he has no empathy. I was like, oh my god,

716
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 5: you've never been about to have sex with someone and

717
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: you notice something or your phone rings and it breaks

718
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: the mood for a moment. But then you silence it,

719
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: and then and then you get.

720
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: Showing up because he's voicing the things he's dissatisfied with,

721
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: and she is putting herself out there to try to

722
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: bring them closer together. And this is something that he

723
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: could recognize in her as something he just has to

724
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: accept or offer understanding or curiosity about, and instead he

725
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: just shuts it down.

726
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: And this is why I think like that there's some

727
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: level of this is why you have to you look deeper,

728
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: like there's some level of insecurity. Like okay, so let's

729
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: say her thing with the burrito made him lose his erection.

730
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean we don't that that doesn't get talked about,

731
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: but like let's just assume like that is what happened.

732
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, there's some insecurity going on with this

733
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: character that we're not aware of yet, that that instead

734
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: of admitting his own frailty, like you ruin the mood

735
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: and now I don't have the power to get back

736
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: in the mood, he just blames her and this is

737
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: the thing, instead of taking any part of responsible.

738
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: And it's so interesting that you have a quote unquote

739
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: very buttoned up character as Breed, and people make these assumptions.

740
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: In this episode, people being Rex and doctor goldfind about

741
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: how she might be in the bedroom, and she is

742
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: not that way. That's not where she's buttoned up. That's

743
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: where she evidently let's lose.

744
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: She used to drink out of the milk curtain, maybe her.

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Wild side, and she is very progressive SIV in her approach.

746
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: And she confronts Rex back at their house and say,

747
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: you know, while she's repairing that mug, that was a

748
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: very poetic way.

749
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 4: Of saying I love that line.

750
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: I would rather repair something I have than get something new.

751
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

752
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was so powerful, beautiful, And then she

753
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: confronts him and says, I've been thinking about it that

754
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm not the problem here.

755
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: It's you.

756
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm willing, I'm here, I'm curious, I'm asking, and you're

757
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: shutting down why And he's still he still won't go

758
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: there with her.

759
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's almost waiting for her to have a moment

760
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: like the burrito moment, so then he doesn't have to

761
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: engage with her and he has something to blame it

762
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: on other than saying, I mean, we don't know yet

763
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: with the underlying I don't know because I haven't watched

764
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: the show, but what his underlying reason is that he

765
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 5: has such a hard time connecting with her. And I

766
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: do think this idea of it's better to fix what

767
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: you already have is really interesting. I'm curious what you like,

768
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 5: Is it better or I mean, obviously there's different When

769
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 5: is it better maybe to fix what you already have

770
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 5: or when do you decide to throw in the towel

771
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: on something, I mean, whether that's a relationship.

772
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: It is a really good question. I mean, it's it's

773
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: interesting that you you know, I mean that you would

774
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: ask us that question as it reflects in our personal life.

775
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: Because I was just also going to say about the

776
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: character storyline. Yeah, that again, this is an incredibly deep, complicated,

777
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: relatable issue between couples that is happening all the time. Yeah,

778
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: and here it is thrown in this sort of iconic

779
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: comedy that some people might reflect back on and think, oh,

780
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: that was a silly good show or whatever.

781
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is a this is meaningful. Again.

782
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just going to say, like Mark Cherry,

783
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, and your writing staff, like this was really

784
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: amazing writing for television. Yeah, And I think television, obviously,

785
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: in twenty years, continues to evolve, and there's amazing shows

786
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: left and right that have examples of great writing. But

787
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't make this any less, ye, And I guess,

788
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: you know, reflecting back, I mean, you know, I've been

789
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: divorced from your dad for over twenty twenty five years.

790
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: I guess we're at.

791
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: And you know, I think in regards to your dad,

792
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: like I've said this before, everything worked out the way

793
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: it should. Like I'm so happy that he's happy and

794
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: in his relationship and they're exactly what each other need.

795
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: And there's you know, you can't go back. But your

796
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: dad's a great person. And I wish that we both

797
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: had had the tools to maybe repair it.

798
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: But we didn't.

799
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean neither of us. You know, we didn't.

800
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: We collectively didn't, and so and so. But I'm not

801
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: saying I would rather it. I just it is interesting

802
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: in hindsight. So I think what I'm saying of all

803
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: of this says I might lean a little more into at.

804
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 4: Least try to repair what you have before you get

805
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: rid of it.

806
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: But I'm not necessarily applying that to like my own life,

807
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: because it is what it is. And you know, but

808
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: I guess if I had to pick one I would say,

809
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: lean the into that.

810
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that something that I found myself

811
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: feeling watching this episode and watching Brie and Rex was man,

812
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 3: it really feels like all of the effort is coming

813
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: from Bri.

814
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I am ready to see.

815
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Something from him, and if he's just done, then I

816
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: guess he's just done. But it does feel like while

817
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: they're still exploring and they're still in marriage counseling, I

818
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: would like I would like some more from him. I'd

819
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: like him to show us more.

820
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: I agree, And I think maybe that is a time

821
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: and freeze in the process of finding that of when

822
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 5: you decide, okay, it's not worth repairing this, because it

823
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 5: does take two people to repair something, whether that's a

824
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: romantic relationship or friendship or working dynamic. You know, I

825
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: think you both have to be showing up with that goal,

826
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: and it's worth showing up with that goal, I think always.

827
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 5: And then you also have to be able to acknowledge

828
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: when somebody's just someone's not and.

829
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: Maybe the repairing is not the relationship, but maybe the

830
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: repairing is the relationship with herself.

831
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh so wise.

832
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's where that comes in.

833
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 4: Say that again, I like that.

834
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: Maybe instead of the repairing being our marriage is fixed

835
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: and we're going to stay together, the repair is I'm

836
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: going to heal myself and recognize the parts of myself

837
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: that I thought were broken, and I'm going to work

838
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: on those instead of, you know, try to get rid

839
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: of them.

840
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: I like that. I love that for her.

841
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: I like that too well.

842
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: I think working on the parts of ourselves on the

843
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 5: complete opposite end of the spectrum we have. Lynette asks,

844
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: while trying to figure out why she is unable to

845
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: sew these costumes and feels deficient, she asks her other

846
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: mom in the group, not her.

847
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Advocary executing everything perfectly well.

848
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: She goes, what's your secret? And it turns out she

849
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: does have a secret, and the secret is adderall and

850
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 5: and Lynette cracks and she takes it and starts down

851
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 5: a slippery slope. And this made me. I mean, I

852
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: love the storyline because I do think it is so relatable.

853
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: And I'm not advocating for people taking ADHD medication that

854
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: they don't need just to get things done. We should

855
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: not put so many expectations on ourselves that we need

856
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 5: to resort to that. But I do think as women,

857
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: often we do end up in positions where we're stretching

858
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: ourselves really thin. And Mom, I just wondered if you

859
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: had anything that you wanted to say about this.

860
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: Well, I think you're right.

861
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: We do find ourselves and positions where we stretch ourselves

862
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: really thin. Are you asking me if I ever took

863
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: out or although I never did, No, I.

864
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Don't know, or as being a high achiever, maybe if

865
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: you felt yeah, I think it's interesting. You know what's

866
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: funny is that I am relating to the show, as

867
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: I've said, in a whole new way that it's almost

868
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: as though I feel like I am watching it for

869
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: the very first time and being pregnant and watching it,

870
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm I'm really locked in on the on the relationships

871
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: that are shown, or the exploration of mothering and motherhood

872
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: right because I'm just I'm soti in that chapter of

873
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: my life or starting that chapter of my life. And

874
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: so the idea of trying to do it all, have

875
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: it all, be the best, this, be the best that,

876
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: be the best wife, be the best mother, be the

877
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: best in business, be the best everywhere, right is landing

878
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: with me in a way that it didn't when I

879
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: was on the show, and so I was actually thinking

880
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: about this unpacking it a little bit after I watched

881
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: the episode, and how does this show up in my

882
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: life as someone who identifies as a perfectionist, And yeah,

883
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: I know, I think we all suffered from that. Yeah,

884
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: And so I was thinking though that even in pregnancy,

885
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: even in pregnancy, the idea of mom guilt kind of

886
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: creeps in the idea of wanting to be the best.

887
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: You know, anything you find out about how your pregnancy

888
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: is going that you've decided is not right, it feels

889
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: like a failure on your end, even though I should

890
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: know it isn't right, but it feels it can land

891
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: that way. Or I had mentioned I think to you

892
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: guys recently that I'm suffering pill fatigue because I'm taking

893
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: prenatals and I'm taking oh my go threes and I'm

894
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: taking X y Z to make sure that everything's going

895
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: all these vitamins, yes, all these vitamins and not ADHD medications,

896
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: and that some days it's just so much and by

897
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: the end of the day you're like, oh my god,

898
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to take one more pill. But the

899
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: driver in my head, instead of it being it's okay,

900
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: you've done great, You're nourishing your baby. The way you're

901
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: carrying your baby is enough. It's a going to let

902
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: her down if you don't find a way to stomach

903
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: one more pay right, Yeah, yeah.

904
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: So these are the stories we tell ourselves, you know,

905
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: and getting a hold. I mean, I feel like I've

906
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: worked my whole life. I mean I'm still I feel

907
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: like I work on it every day. Like the awareness,

908
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: the conscious choice that you can make about the stories

909
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: you tell yourself about yourself and the difference between the

910
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: what you have and what you have done and focusing

911
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: on that instead of the what you haven't and what

912
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: isn't enough and what you didn't do, which is what

913
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: we mostly do. And that really comes from DNA, you know,

914
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: it really does like we're not wired to sort of

915
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: focus on the good.

916
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: We're really focused to.

917
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: We're wired to focus on the bad because that's how

918
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: we have survived with you know, we don't repeat those

919
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: things or whatever what we're afraid of and all that.

920
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: We keep that, but it has to be conscious, you

921
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: really have to.

922
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Think about it. And and the way put it too,

923
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: like that we are the ones that set up the expectation.

924
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: You know, you are the one that says me, I'm

925
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: gonna take me. For example, I'm the one that says

926
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: I should be able to go to my friend's wedding

927
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: in New York, and then I should be able to

928
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: come home to the hotel at one o'clock and I

929
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: should be able to wake up at three and go

930
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: to the airport and fly to Los Angeles and then

931
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: get off the plane and get my makeup done and

932
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: then come here and do a couple of episodes of

933
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: that and then go home. And then actually I have

934
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: two auditions that I'm self taping tonight, and then I

935
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: have to wash the dog because we're going to Children's

936
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: hospital tomorrow to visitations. And I should be able to

937
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: do all that. That is my day, and I'm probably

938
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: not gonna do I'm you know.

939
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: Are you sure you'd well.

940
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm surely not. I'm not taking the adderall to get

941
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: it all done.

942
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: But maybe I should be.

943
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: But that is a very high bar of expectations. And

944
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: my point is I've done that to myself.

945
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 5: Right.

946
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: I could have called the hospital and said, you know what,

947
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: we love coming to Children's Hospital. I've had other extra

948
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: stuff come up today. I just can't make it, But

949
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: I feel guilty about the kids, right, I feel guilty

950
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: about the patients that they're suffering way more than I'm suffering.

951
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: So I should just get my shit together and get

952
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: the dog washed and get over there, right, you know,

953
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to execute these auditions because

954
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: it's important to me to get another acting job. And

955
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: that's how the business works. Now as you do these

956
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: horrible self tapes in your own house and you know,

957
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to do. It's not my wheelhouse,

958
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: I you know, but I'm good and so anyways, it's

959
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: an example of every day we set up the list

960
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: of expectations and then we fall short of them, and

961
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: then we punish ourselves for it.

962
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: Well, I hope that this conversation, maybe being so fresh

963
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: in your mind, will offer you the chance to be

964
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: to give yourself some grace.

965
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I think one trick is sometimes

966
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: you really can't change the list of expectations, but you

967
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: can change the way you treat.

968
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: The voice that you treat yourself with.

969
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I do know at the end

970
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: of the stay, when I do get the auditions done

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: and I do get the dog washed, and I'm totally exhausted.

972
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: I do have control of going I did my best. Yes,

973
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: like maybe I won't get the jobs, you know whatever,

974
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: but I'll know that like I showed up and I

975
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: did my best and that will be enough. Yeah, there

976
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: won't be any extra punishing. And that's maybe different than

977
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: twenty years ago.

978
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah that I'm like, I'm just thinking about the women

979
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 5: in the show and how I don't feel like anybody

980
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 5: is saying that they've done their best at the end

981
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 5: of this episode.

982
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

983
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: That's a good point that they're all really critical of themselves.

984
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 5: I mean maybe Gabby feels momentarily like she's done her best,

985
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: but then we see that that's going to come back

986
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 5: to bite her because Carlos, well.

987
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: Let's like wrap that up for the listeners of like

988
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: how that So she picks her up. She realizes that

989
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: she's she's lost all this money and she kind.

990
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: Of said somewhere upwards of fifteen thousand dollars, Yeah, Carlos's money.

991
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: In an hour, and Gabrielle uses that to get the

992
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: mother in law to.

993
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: Not say anything about her to Carlos. But then Carlos

994
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 5: says when Gabby is not there to his mom. You know,

995
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you guys are getting along. Gabby was

996
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: really worried about you. I ended up telling her that

997
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: you had a gambling addiction. And Whennita realizes she set

998
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 5: her up, she sent her there on purpose, and now

999
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: she is suspicious that she and I think she even

1000
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 5: noticed it. She notices John at the end, and she

1001
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 5: notices how Gabby doesn't talk to John at all.

1002
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Right, they have that little lags, that little moment as

1003
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: she's walking back from her mailbox.

1004
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: And it's the idea that the person that you're actively

1005
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: ignoring is the person that she's having something right, So

1006
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: we get that storyline wrapping up in that way. We

1007
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: obviously we covered Rex and Brie. Brie is so beautiful

1008
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 5: and fearless and vulnerable and Rex just gives her nothing, nothing,

1009
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: And Lynette does make all of the costumes.

1010
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: And in the show too, I know, I know.

1011
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: So that's a really big episode.

1012
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: And I brought bean burritos so in episode six, and

1013
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: the scene in the hotel room with Rex and Brie.

1014
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: The reason I have brought you three different bean and

1015
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: cheese burritos should be obvious if you.

1016
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: Saw that scene.

1017
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious that Brie could just not

1018
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: enjoy sex while she saw the hot cheese slowly about

1019
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: to drip on the carpet. It was a epic moment,

1020
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: that scene. But anyway, let me tell you what we

1021
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: have here. So I felt like, you know, I make

1022
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: a good burrito, but I felt like it might be

1023
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: more fun to search Los Angeles for their best burritos.

1024
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: So I looked up what were the best bean and

1025
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: cheese burritos in our city? And so I won't tell

1026
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: you which one is which, Okay, but one of these

1027
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: is from Sorna Rita's in downtown LA. One of these

1028
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: is from Burrito Express in Pasadena, and one of these

1029
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: is from Casitas Taco Al Carbone in Burbank.

1030
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: Did you drive to all of these locations to pick

1031
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 5: up the burritos?

1032
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: It is none of your business.

1033
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: Look, we don't have to just delivered right here.

1034
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: Anyways, I will tell you which one is which, but

1035
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: I know, so I thought we could take a bite

1036
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: of each of them and then see.

1037
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 5: Wait, I'm so excited. I also I love just starting.

1038
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to I want to bite.

1039
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm starting with that one too.

1040
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, great, this is the one with the really soft

1041
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: beans like they're they're really refried.

1042
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 5: Mm hmm wow, which I have to say, in my opinion,

1043
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 5: a bean and cheese burrito, I'm expecting soft refried bean.

1044
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: Yes, you want kind of one texture. It's the one

1045
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 3: food where I feel like you kind of do want

1046
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: one texture soft.

1047
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: And then this is a different one has more of

1048
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: like the whole the whole pento bean. Okay, I'm not

1049
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: really seeing the cheese these are supposed to be.

1050
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's in there.

1051
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 3: No, I see some white cheese. Yeah, but the beans

1052
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: are definitely a little bit more. It's going to be

1053
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: aggressive own individual identity.

1054
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, while we're chewing.

1055
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: While you guys are chewing, I'll say just I mean,

1056
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: how can you not say, First of all, I mean

1057
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: so many things, Bree is so brave in this moment,

1058
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: and you know what, you really wouldn't necessarily expect it

1059
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: of the Breed character to kind of put her ego aside,

1060
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: and even later in the scenes where they kind of

1061
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: they come back to the house and she sort of

1062
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: calls them out on you know, I don't think it's me,

1063
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: I think it's you. But but she shows up in

1064
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: such a brave way, and it made me want to

1065
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: buy a mink coat and have a person that I

1066
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: would go wear nothing but brawn underwear and then just

1067
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: drop the mink coat with like that seemed so fun

1068
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: and Marcia. Okay, So twenty thirty years ago, when I

1069
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: was doing Lewis and Clark, I got an opportunity to

1070
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: do the cover of a magazine called Movie Line, which

1071
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't think exists anymore, but it was one of

1072
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: they We did this big photo shoot and then they

1073
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: had this idea to kind of do this racy cover

1074
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: and I did this shot of me like up against

1075
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: a pole, like a like a lamp post or a

1076
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: big wood you know, big wood lamp post, and I

1077
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: was tied. I was totally naked, but tied with like

1078
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: fishing rope, you know, like the really thick the kind

1079
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: of rope you climb up at a CrossFit gym, And

1080
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: it was tied around my breasts and around my crotch

1081
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: and sort of you know in a way but where

1082
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: you couldn't see like the private parts, but you could

1083
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: see everything. And I remember at the time thinking this

1084
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: is really risque. Some people are gonna like this some

1085
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: people are gonna hate this, but I'm going to be

1086
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: really glad I have this photo when I'm eighty years old,

1087
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: And can I just say I am, I really am,

1088
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: And and take that to heart. You young people listening,

1089
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: because you know, make those moments, because you know you

1090
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: will get to a point where you'll look back and

1091
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: you go, well, I'm not going to be that ever again. Really,

1092
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: even if I was a person who was getting plastic surgery,

1093
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: which I'm not, but if I was, no judgment by

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00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: the way, you know, you still can't make that. You

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00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: can't you can't make that yourself look like that. It's

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Speaker 2: only something that youth offers. Anyway, Marcia in this scene

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Speaker 2: looks it looks unbelievable, like just flawless unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I love the scene so much. Okay, what are we

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Speaker 4: thinking of the Britos?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just I mean, have you tried the third one?

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Speaker 5: I haven't tried the third one. For the third one now,

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00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 5: I'm kind of only want to do bean and she's

1103
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: burritos every every episode because it's it's all I want.

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 5: My girlfriend would love that too, is her favorite snack.

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Speaker 3: I went through a I went through a phase during

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00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: Desperate Housewives, probably season one because I grew so much

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Speaker 3: where I think for three weeks straight I craved a

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: bean and chese burrito every day and my mom made

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Speaker 3: them for me every day.

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Speaker 5: So she made them because I was gonna say where

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Speaker 5: did you get your bean?

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Speaker 3: And she made them and they were great. Okay, do

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Speaker 3: we have a favorite?

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Speaker 5: I think my favorite is the first one.

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 3: I think my favorite is the first one.

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00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's almost like we're related through TV.

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Speaker 2: Our favorite is Soa Sona Rito's s O n O R.

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: I t a s Sona Rito's and it looks like

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: there's one on Sartel and one in downtown l A.

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Speaker 2: And of the three, I will say this was voted

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Speaker 2: the highest.

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Speaker 5: Ah out of the twel amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we picked the one that the the wherever

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Speaker 2: this article was from.

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Speaker 5: I will say, I think this burrito from Sona Rita's

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Speaker 5: is worth getting a cheese stain in your clothes.

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Speaker 4: Or on the rug or on the rug.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I prea is that amazing line where she goes, well,

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Speaker 5: you've clearly never tried to get out a cheese stain.

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. And I feel like we're just

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Speaker 5: getting drawn more and more into the juicy mystery of

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Speaker 5: this season.

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Speaker 2: And I love that you use the word juicy because

1134
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Speaker 2: of the bean and cheese burritos to talk.

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Speaker 5: About juicy, a juicy burrito, just like the juicy juicy

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00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 5: last shot of the Dana's baby blanket unnoticed for now

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Speaker 5: in the back of Susan's garage. And I really, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I personally can't wait to see what happens next.

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to binge this. Oh my god, I'm

1140
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: really it is really hard for me to not binge this.

1141
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch episode seven. But just so

1142
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: you're listening at home, we're trying not to binge it

1143
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: because we want to come back and record, you know,

1144
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: each episode as a podcast and other. If I was

1145
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: following my true nature, i'd be done with this season already. Yeah,

1146
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: but it's actually a really good exercise that we used

1147
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: to watch television this way.

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00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: Yep. You used to have to wait for the next week.

1149
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: And there is something gratifying about waiting and not just

1150
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: shoving it all into your brain in six hours until three.

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Speaker 4: In the morning.

1152
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: Yes, there is something nice about letting it settle in

1153
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: week after week. So I don't know if if you're listening,

1154
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: if you're following along with us with that same rate

1155
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 2: of viewership, but we're having fun. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: we've got our Instagram account desperately devoted podcast, and so

1157
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: we hope that you'll follow that if you're not already

1158
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: following that, and leave us some messages because we want

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00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: we want to know what you're thinking and answer your questions, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, join our conversations, join our discus.

1161
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: And you'll be the first one to see any you know,

1162
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Speaker 2: news clips that we drop if you're following that, So

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Speaker 2: make sure you follow and we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 5: M