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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Pisovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ is king from the onset of the war in Iran.

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Speaker 4: Law enforcement officials have been expressing their concerns to us

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Speaker 1: A Friday daan, Oakland County, after a man armed with

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Speaker 4: The driver, I'm in Ghazzali, was a naturalized US citizen

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Speaker 3: And Virginia officials say a former National Guard soldier opened

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Speaker 9: It is open for transit. Should Iran not do that?

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Speaker 11: We're officials now say four of the six crew members

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Speaker 1: Lady John, Welcome on board today's edition of Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: We're here live on Real America's Voice. Today is March thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Anno Dominique.

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Speaker 10: Guys, we're watching right now.

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Speaker 1: The Tyler Robinson hearing continues down there in Provo Utah

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Speaker 1: or Utah, Utah County, where his lawyers are currently arguing

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Speaker 10: The in front of the judge.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to let you know that the footage

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Speaker 1: because Tyler Robinson is now completely off of camera. I

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Speaker 1: And reasoning is that all of these motions regarding the

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Speaker 10: And I want to go to sought one to give

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Speaker 1: And we have this because what we have is some

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Speaker 1: information regarding defense attorneys filing emotion to classify evidence to

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Speaker 1: getting you guys that information. But what we're seeing now

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Speaker 10: But what we're.

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Speaker 1: Seeing now is instances and insistence on Tyler Robinson's lawyers

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Speaker 13: There seems to be an idea that flooding the public

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Speaker 1: So, folks, and we're talking about you know this this case,

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Speaker 10: That to you directly.

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Speaker 1: But I want to just take it back a second

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Speaker 1: to explain what's going on. This hearing is about public access,

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Speaker 1: This is very important because think about it, this is

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Speaker 1: not the trial. It's a fight over who controls the

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Speaker 10: They want to seal filing, seal evidence.

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Speaker 1: of course all along has been pushing to restrict cameras

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Speaker 10: So if to the defense now is pivoting.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be digging in on all of it.

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Speaker 15: And so I mean any cases being made public, anything

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Speaker 5: And that's the problem that we've got right now.

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Speaker 5: She hasn't been.

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Speaker 1: Found, but it's it's absolutely just dominated the news cycle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a niche.

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Speaker 15: And honestly that exists because there are gaps in the

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Speaker 5: As a judge.

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Speaker 15: You know, I'm doing what you what you say, which is,

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Speaker 15: Any information that can give us a full picture of

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Speaker 15: because that's really what this case is about. It's not

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Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's something that I've questions about

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Speaker 10: So I can't wait for it to happen. And all

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Speaker 1: And so something where I know I'm certainly going to

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Speaker 10: This phrase, would say what else? What other?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 10: What else?

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Speaker 5: What other?

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Speaker 10: Always be asking that question, what else? What other? Is

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Speaker 1: And in this case, when we are told that evidence

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Speaker 10: Case that I've covered. Ladies l me right back. Human

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Speaker 14: You talk about influences, These are influences and they're friends

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Speaker 5: Jack, Jack, You've.

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Speaker 15: Got to break down.

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Speaker 8: Defendants request to classify. The motion filed on January ninth,

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Speaker 8: Defendant seeks to classify his motion to exclude cameras from

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Speaker 10: All right, mister Burt.

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Speaker 1: motion on the removal of cameras. The defendant wants that

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Speaker 1: motion classified, so that'll be. And now they're talking about

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Speaker 1: the next hearing coming up here regarding the April seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: which is all so going to be on cameras to

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Speaker 1: see some people rising there the different arguments being made

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Speaker 1: about the next case. So Natalie Wadas from local CBS

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Speaker 1: is saying, the judge presiding has decided not to classify

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Speaker 1: the documents that the defense asked for, has decided to

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Speaker 1: allow cameras in the courtroom at the next hearing on

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Speaker 1: April seventeenth. However, the judge said the defense may file

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Speaker 1: an updated motion to argue for removing.

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Speaker 10: Cameras on April seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: They could do that on March thirtieth, and that's what

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Speaker 1: they're going to be pushing for since and just I

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Speaker 1: want to bring Malcolm Flex back in here.

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Speaker 10: So Flex.

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Speaker 1: This was big actually because the judge actually, I think,

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Speaker 1: and as many words, said exactly what you said, that

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Speaker 1: the defense in most of these motions, with the exception

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Speaker 1: of this camera bit for the next piece, was saying

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Speaker 1: that the defendant has not met the burden right the

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Speaker 1: bar to saying that his rights to you know, to

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Speaker 1: have a fair trial come into conflict with the right

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Speaker 1: of the public to have access to this case because

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Speaker 1: it is a public trial. And as the judge is working,

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Speaker 1: he has to weigh those back and forth and says, look,

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Speaker 1: this evidence, this is a public trial. We don't do

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Speaker 1: these trials behind the scenes. We have to do this

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Speaker 1: in public. That's the American way. And he's saying right

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Speaker 1: there that you've not met the burden to say that

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Speaker 1: this is going to be prejudicial, so your emotion is denied.

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Speaker 5: Beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 15: I think that's exactly what we expect any judge work

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Speaker 15: assault would make that.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's just logical conclusion here.

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Speaker 15: Like we said, they're working against their own defendant's interests

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Speaker 15: if they're trying to shield information or anything, because there's

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Speaker 15: so little information to go off of.

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to it, looking forward to seeing how this goes.

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Speaker 1: with I go by the way, I'm just I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: the chat. I was about to bring get mal complex

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Speaker 10: In the trial. So we are we are going to

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Speaker 10: pull that clip as soon as we can.

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Speaker 1: If you guys remember that Human Events was one of

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Speaker 1: the first media outlets to weigh in on this case

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Speaker 1: and on the question of trials or excuse me, have

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Speaker 1: cameras in the trial and look, you know this is

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Speaker 1: something that we firmly support. Erica has also come out

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Speaker 1: and said that she supports full camera access in the trial.

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Speaker 1: And I'll just say this from from my perspective, it's

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Speaker 1: really simple. Charlie did not have say and whether or

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Speaker 1: not his death would be public. Only the killer had

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Speaker 1: to say in that and as such, the trial itself

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Speaker 1: should also be public.

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Speaker 10: And fully on camera. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: I do want to bring in Malcolm Flex because we

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Speaker 1: have so much other stuff to talk about. We've got

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Speaker 1: the Iran war, which is of course heating up. We've

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Speaker 1: also got this blowback that is occurring in the United States,

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Speaker 1: multiple terrorist related attacks which took place just yesterday on

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Speaker 1: American soil, and of course unfortunately more to come. Flex

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Speaker 1: wanted to get you in here now and kind of

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Speaker 1: talk your high level analysis of the situation both at

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Speaker 1: home and abroad, because in my mind there's no question

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Speaker 1: these are both indelibly linked.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you can say both of the situations are linked,

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Speaker 15: as well as the whole Charlie Kirk situation. I think

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Speaker 15: when it comes to sort of the policy and how

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Speaker 15: we're even getting here.

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Speaker 5: But you know, as always before we talking about terrorism.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's uh man, honestly, any anytime we talk about

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Speaker 15: acts of terror or warfare, you know, first off, want

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Speaker 15: of you know, my condolences go out to the families

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Speaker 15: of those that have lost service members as well as

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Speaker 15: you know, just the service members who have been involved

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Speaker 15: and who continue to be involved.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, blowback is a real thing.

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Speaker 15: I don't think a lot of people consider when they

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Speaker 15: look at their phones, these little glass screens and they see, oh,

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Speaker 15: we just blew up this building, this building, and this building,

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Speaker 15: they don't understand that. Again, in every conflict, the enemy

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Speaker 15: gets a vote, and not just the enemy, but sympathizers

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Speaker 15: to the enemy. I think we've miss referenced and misunderstood

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Speaker 15: how many people are sympathetic to what is going on

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Speaker 15: in Iran on the Iranian side. And I think that

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Speaker 15: we also misrepresent the pool of a of the Sheite

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Speaker 15: faction of Islam.

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Speaker 5: You know it, We cannot say it enough. This is

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Speaker 5: more than just one nation.

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Speaker 15: You have a lot of people who are Sheites instead

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Speaker 15: of Sunnis. And so when you attack Iran, who is

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Speaker 15: you know, they've got the Ayatola.

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Speaker 5: You just killed the Iatolin.

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Speaker 15: That's like going in and killing the pope at some point,

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Speaker 15: you know, You're going to have a lot of people

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Speaker 15: over here, in other areas like Brain and other areas

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Speaker 15: of the Middle East that are going to feel some

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Speaker 15: kind of way.

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Speaker 5: And guess what, when things get.

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Speaker 15: Bad enough and we're seeing a destabilization of the economy,

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Speaker 15: we're seeing everything go a little bit haywire here. People

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Speaker 15: lose faith in the system. They lose faith in the

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Speaker 15: system that allowed us to happen, in the system that

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Speaker 15: perpetrates it, as well as the system that is supposed

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Speaker 15: to protect them from something of this nature. And that

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Speaker 15: also happens in Iran. It's so you get upheaval, you

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Speaker 15: get clashes, and clashes cause a lot of people to

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Speaker 15: act in ways that they normally wouldn't. So, like I said, again,

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Speaker 15: you've got the Lebanese terrorists, a guy that's you know

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Speaker 15: again came from a family of loving thesee people who

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Speaker 15: claimed were killed by the actions of a certain nation state.

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Speaker 15: So I mean, is it any surprise that this was

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Speaker 15: going to happen? And you know, Iran understands this. I

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Speaker 15: think that a lot of people over here don't understand that. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: you can do bombing campaigns, you can blow up things,

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Speaker 15: but when you blow up a desalination plant. When you

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Speaker 15: blow up what is a school, It didn't matter if

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Speaker 15: the intel is bad. What you just did was you

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Speaker 15: destabilize the whole area of people who arguably now are

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Speaker 15: losing the will to go back to the status quo.

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Speaker 15: And therefore Iran is playing by a different set of rules.

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Speaker 15: They understand they're not going to inflict casualties on the

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Speaker 15: United States in the same way the United States is

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Speaker 15: going to inflict casualties. Our wind condition is to essentially

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Speaker 15: destroy their ability to fight. Their win condition is to

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Speaker 15: destroy the ability of the American people to support this.

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Speaker 15: So they're looking at it in a cost to destruction

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Speaker 15: equation that costs the destruction equation means every tenth hole

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Speaker 15: million dollar piece of equipment that we have deployed or

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Speaker 15: staged over there is a win. Doesn't matter how many

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Speaker 15: people they lose. They've got people to make this happen,

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Speaker 15: and we're creating more and more people for them. Political willpower, energy, galvanization,

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Speaker 15: that's what they're banking on. And by doing this, you're

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Speaker 15: creating a cohesive force and a cohesive group of people

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Speaker 15: that now realize, okay, we're united against a group that

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Speaker 15: does not care about it. Regardless of what you say, Oh,

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Speaker 15: they're going to rise up and whatnot. No, you're actually

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Speaker 15: creating a rally around the flag effect, and that's what.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that and just just to just to pop in.

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Speaker 1: So that could potentially be one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the factors and why we haven't seen these these protests,

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Speaker 1: these opposition groups getting involved, because what.

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Speaker 10: Do we see.

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Speaker 1: We see the you know, the uh martyrdom. They view

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Speaker 1: the Ayatola as a mar we're playing some clips of

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Speaker 1: that earlier. They're carrying his pictures. There was a huge

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Speaker 1: pro Palestinian march today in Tayron. It's actually Kud's Day,

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Speaker 1: which is a day in you know they traditionally rally

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Speaker 1: for the Palestinian people. So this isn't anything new for them,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's you know, greatly added to and exacerbated

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Speaker 1: because they feel that they are under attack and under

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Speaker 1: assault by a foreign forced named in the US and Israel,

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Speaker 1: and so a lot of these are the same types

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Speaker 1: of factors that we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan, where

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Speaker 1: you know, where you have the local populace say hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe the Taliban aren't. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: certainly not the nicest guys on the block, But you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're up against a foreign threat, and so

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Speaker 1: we have to turn to the people who are going

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 10: Brutal on our behalf. Does that make sense.

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Speaker 15: Yes, yes, it's the same principle of to fight monsters,

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Speaker 15: you must become monsters. And honestly, the United States are

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Speaker 15: probably some of the scary at monsters to some of

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Speaker 15: these people that they've seen since the Soviet Union, and

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Speaker 15: they have the playbook, Let's be honest. The playbook is

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Speaker 15: to draw it out, be asymmetrical, force them out the

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Speaker 15: long way, in the hard way. The United States may

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Speaker 15: have money, but right now, again money is finite, and

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Speaker 15: our supply of money is in flux, and so all

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Speaker 15: you have to do is make this as painful as possible.

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Speaker 15: It's a lot easier in an asymmetrical war to survive, especially

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Speaker 15: when you've had twenty plus years to prepare for it.

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Speaker 5: Let's not forget that.

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Speaker 15: So it's a lot easier for them to execute their

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Speaker 15: objectives than it is for us to continually stage more

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Speaker 15: and more of our men equipment as well as our

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Speaker 15: plans which are getting siphoned off by the Chinese when

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Speaker 15: we're already suffering from a lack of what we need,

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Speaker 15: which is political willpower to even engage in such so.

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing them out so and I know there's

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Speaker 1: just a minute left and we'll have to get you

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Speaker 1: back on to dig more into this and realize we're

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Speaker 1: going to have so much breaking with the tile case.

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Speaker 1: But that the USS Tripoli, a full marine expeditionary unit,

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Speaker 1: and the amphibious assault ship have been we're told, reportedly

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Speaker 1: ordered to the Middle East. So you're talking about twenty

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Speaker 1: two hundred marines F thirty five and potential for more

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Speaker 1: if they get in. Malcolm flex, Where can people go

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Speaker 1: to follow you and get access to your musings?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 15: Just up find me on X on not not if

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Speaker 15: you're politically motivated. If you're like literally in the bag

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Speaker 15: of one side and your swilling propaganda, then you might

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Speaker 15: not want to follow me. But other than that, follow

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Speaker 15: me on X and also check me out on Instagram again.

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Speaker 5: I also fight. I'm a immuni fighter. I do a

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Speaker 5: lot of stuff. Just prepare, stay strong and stay healthy people.

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Speaker 1: All right, check them out, folks, Malcolm Flex Flex's.

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Speaker 10: Warrior Way, Thank you, my friend. Right back Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 14: So that you talk about influences, these are influences and they're.

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Speaker 12: Friends of mine.

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Speaker 16: Jack.

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Speaker 5: Where Jack, he's got a breakdown.

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Speaker 10: Concerns. This relates to the product concern.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 16: The second issue you're gonner, I came across when I

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Speaker 16: was preparing for the hearing today a letter brief that

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Speaker 16: is online dated October twenty eight, twenty five from a

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Speaker 16: group called Human Events and it's address to your honor

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Speaker 16: and it's in the nature of a brief on the

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Speaker 16: closure issues we've been discussing today. It indicates at the

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Speaker 16: bottom that it was c seed to the parties but

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Speaker 16: discussing with the prosecution. Neither one.

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Speaker 1: From a group called Human Events or Tyler Robinson's lawyers.

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Speaker 1: There very upset that Human Events is called for full transparency.

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Speaker 10: There's an open letter, okay.

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Speaker 1: That means you can read it with your eyes and

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Speaker 1: with your ability to understand the English language. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean it wasn't provided to us, Well, you can

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Speaker 1: just go to Humanevents dot com and read it. It's

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Speaker 1: called an open letter, that's what it's for. And it's

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Speaker 1: these these people are so desperate now Tyler Robinson lawyers

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Speaker 1: are attacking human events directly in the trial simply for

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Speaker 1: calling for transparency.

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Speaker 10: Okay, all right, I see how it is. I see

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Speaker 10: how it is. We'll have more on that at a

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Speaker 10: later date.

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Speaker 1: I want to go in because we have a new

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Speaker 1: guest today that i'd be or missed. We didn't get

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Speaker 1: on because you know, we've been talking so much lately

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Speaker 1: about these these issues with privacy. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: of course recently this these questions about the.

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Speaker 10: Uptick in uh. I hate to say it, but.

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Speaker 1: These terrorists inspired incidents here in the United States, and

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Speaker 1: one of the real reasons that a lot of people have,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're a conservative, especially if you're a Patriot,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Trump supporter, and if you're a Christian,

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Speaker 1: that you per potentially could be targeted. And there's of

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Speaker 1: course lots of reasons to want to protect your privacy.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring on Skip Holds, who is

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Speaker 1: the co founder of.

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Speaker 10: Our partners over at Patriot Protect. Skip, How are you, Jack?

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Speaker 9: Good to be here? Good to be here? I mean,

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Speaker 9: you know you see me coming. You always got to

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Speaker 9: be concerned because all we do all day is thinking

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Speaker 9: about you know, this the attack surface that everyday Americans

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Speaker 9: have of just existing and having an Internet controlled and

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Speaker 9: Internet connected world. So we've been busy of late, to

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Speaker 9: say the least, between everything that we normally do and

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Speaker 9: then the upticks of everything that's been happening because of

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Speaker 9: the you know, just the sheer scale of cyber attacks

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Speaker 9: coming out of Iran.

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Speaker 1: Well, so walk us through these cyber attacks. Is this

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Speaker 1: is this like fishing? Are they going after specific individuals

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Speaker 1: who are associated with supporting President Trump? Try to try

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Speaker 1: to build target list that sort of thing.

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Speaker 9: I wish it were that simple, honestly. The the there's

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Speaker 9: a whole history of it which I'd love to give

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Speaker 9: a little primer of. But we had just this week

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Speaker 9: the largest, one of the largest breaches that we've seen

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Speaker 9: that has hit the Striker Medical device company. That happened

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Speaker 9: just literally this week. That was done by pro Iran hackers.

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Speaker 9: There's been a whole history of state aligned hacking coming

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Speaker 9: out of Iran, going back from what started it all,

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Speaker 9: which was the stucksnetworm that was done to disable the

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Speaker 9: nuclear enrichment you know, centrifuges at Natan's in Iran. But

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Speaker 9: Striker was it. This has been a huge breach that

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Speaker 9: we've been tracking these just so you know. I mean,

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Speaker 9: Striker is a company that you know, they provide everything

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Speaker 9: from ambulance cots to you know, defibrillation information and services

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Speaker 9: to hospitals and emergency medical services. And so this happened

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Speaker 9: in uh this was breached this week. Maryland's Institute for

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Speaker 9: Emergency Medical Services Systems said that the the emergency medical

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Speaker 9: services told hospitals in the state this was on Wednesday,

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Speaker 9: that it received multiple reports of Striker's life neet echo

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Speaker 9: cardiogram transmission system was quote non functional in most parts

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Speaker 9: of the state of Maryland. And what this was was

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Speaker 9: this was a Iranian state aligned group that claimed that

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Speaker 9: claimed this attack. So this was this was such that

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Speaker 9: no people, none, none of these emergency services could transmit

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Speaker 9: information over to the hospitals of the patients that they

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Speaker 9: were working on. I mean, this is unprecedented attack that

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Speaker 9: is affecting actual people that are getting actual care here stateside.

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Speaker 1: And so when you're talking about this, they're building together

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Speaker 1: these lists of individuals. What could people do to potentially

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Speaker 1: protect themselves if they view that Iran might be trying

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Speaker 1: to gather up this information that they might be using

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Speaker 1: open source databases. What can people do to protect themselves,

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Speaker 1: their family and their loved ones and these in times

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Speaker 1: like these?

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Speaker 9: Listen. I mean, I take no pleasure in saying this,

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Speaker 9: but the reality is, if you're an American taxpayer over

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Speaker 9: the age of eighteen, you have your information published by

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Speaker 9: hundreds of data brokers all over the Internet. If you,

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Speaker 9: and I invite everybody to do this, go to Google,

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Speaker 9: type in your name and address and press center and

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Speaker 9: you will see pages and pages and pages of information

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Speaker 9: about you as an individual. Your age, your name, your

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Speaker 9: email addresses, your phone numbers, your relatives' names, your physical addresses,

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Speaker 9: and your pa dresses. This is just this has nothing

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Speaker 9: to do with iron. This is just what the reality

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Speaker 9: that we live in today of an internet connected world.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the question you have to ask yourself

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Speaker 9: is do you want to have all this information there

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Speaker 9: about you out there about you? You know, we have

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Speaker 9: so many scams that are coming at us all day.

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Speaker 9: You probably get them, the USPS scams, those normal phishing

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Speaker 9: attacks that say like hey, you know, we're did you

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Speaker 9: apply for this job? Those text messages and then they

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Speaker 9: rope you in they ask you to transfer over to WhatsApp.

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Speaker 9: There's a huge amount of ways that they can get

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Speaker 9: to you. And the reason that this, when this information

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Speaker 9: is published about you, why it's so dangerous is that

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Speaker 9: they can make you believable. They can target your relatives

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Speaker 9: and say, hey, it's your grandson. You know, I'm in

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Speaker 9: a jam, I just got arrested. I need you to

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Speaker 9: send money over to me, and then they can spoof

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Speaker 9: a different account and get your grandmother to send money over.

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Speaker 9: We say this all the time about how scammers have

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Speaker 9: been doing this about you know, we think about scammers

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Speaker 9: of just sending information out there and just phishing and

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Speaker 9: seeing what they can do. But with AI, you know,

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Speaker 9: we say that, you know, we think that scammers are

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Speaker 9: using bows and arrows when the reality is that they

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Speaker 9: moved down to gunpowder. And so, what can you do

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Speaker 9: as an individual to make sure that you have a

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Speaker 9: cybersecurity company that's on your side is to use a

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Speaker 9: service like ours, to use Patriot Protect. You know, again,

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Speaker 9: we we don't want to have to be doing this.

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Speaker 9: So this is a call to action for us as

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Speaker 9: privacy interested individuals. People thought that, you know, we were

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Speaker 9: we were being alarmist when we said back in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 9: twenty thirteen, when the IRGC launched Operation Abba Biel and

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Speaker 9: they d doos attacked forty six major financial institutions. I'm

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Speaker 9: talking Bank of America, JP, Morgan, Chase, Wells Fargo, New

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Speaker 9: York Stock Exchange, Capital One. And this was a period

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Speaker 9: of a cumulative period of two hundred and fifty hours

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Speaker 9: where you could not log in to your personal banking account.

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Speaker 9: I imagine if you were you know, you were at

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Speaker 9: the cashier at IT with a with a cart full

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Speaker 9: of groceries. You go to swipe your credit card and

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Speaker 9: it doesn't work because there was this Iranian linked you know,

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Speaker 9: a breach of the systems that you rely on every day.

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Speaker 9: That happened over, you know, fifteen years ago. So what

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Speaker 9: the capacity that they have now to disrupt everyday life

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Speaker 9: that we saw just this week with the Striker attack,

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Speaker 9: This is just that was just a drop in the

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Speaker 9: bucket compared to what their their capacity is now. And

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Speaker 9: so what what we do, what Patriot Protect does for

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Speaker 9: you is make you a much higher cost target so

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Speaker 9: that when they're you know, these these cyber hackers, these

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Speaker 9: these cyber criminals, the hackers, the scammers. They're a business

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Speaker 9: and a legal one, but they're a business just like

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Speaker 9: any other, and they want to make sure that they're

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Speaker 9: getting an ROI and their information. You know, one of

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Speaker 9: the things that we provide is our Blackout service to

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Speaker 9: show you what's leaked on the dark net about the

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Speaker 9: dark web about you. We look back to two thousand

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Speaker 9: and eight people get you know, we show the hacks

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Speaker 9: that was done on AT and T. You know, we

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Speaker 9: show you what has been put out there about you

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Speaker 9: and what you can do about it. Because the reality is,

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Speaker 9: these these leaks happen every single day, and I got

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Speaker 9: to tell you, boy, are we busy these days.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we've got and we've we've got up

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Speaker 1: Just in the last couple of seconds left, I want

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