1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: February thirteenth. Hope you already got the Valentine's flowers and 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: the cards. If you're going to the store for cards, 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: I mean, goodness, gracious, all the good stuff is picked through. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: You're probably gonna get some weak ass flowers. You should 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: have ordered them last week. I hope you guys are 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: stepping up your game. Valentine's Week. Got a fun Cam 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Newton super Bowl story for you. I think you're gonna 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: like it. It comes courtesy of Shady McCoy, who is 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 3: now according. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: To Cam my guy. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk a little bit more about the super Bowl, 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: and I do have to start with college basketball. Listen, 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: you guys know, I don't consider myself a degenerate, but 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: I do like gambling on college basketball and March Madness 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: is coming up. I have a subscription to Palm and 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: the other side I go to is bart Torvik. So 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: every not the first thing I do when I wake up, 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: but one of the earlier things I do in the 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: morning is look at the schedules. 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: See what kem pom has, see what Bart Torvick has. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: And then I take a look at some other spots 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: where the early money is, where the line movement is. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: And I had a three and zero on a Monday, 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 3: wiping the stench away from forty nine. 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: Ers losing the Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm still a little 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: salty about that. 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: That's what Well, first half was awesome, but three and 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: o college hoops to start the week is pretty damn good. 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: But before we get to Super Bowl, because I did 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: rewatch the game Monday night, I don't know if you 34 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: guys saw. It was on NFL network, and I some 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: interesting thoughts rewatching it. But first I think Rob g 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: will like this. So, as you guys know, Cam Newton 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: was at the Super Bowl doing radio row, media row, 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: whatever it's called. I'm sure Rob saw him. I got 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: text from a handful of media people. Oh you got 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: Cam Newton's here. He is massive. He is enormous, Like 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: he looks like, you know, a Viking warrior, one of 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: these like huge, hulking indivis. And I you know, Monday, 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: I go to the herd and I'm on the set 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: and I'm going and like getting water, I'm filling up 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: my Stanley. Yes, I've become a Stanley guy, as Rob smarks, 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure, but my kids are like riding me. Oh 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: come on, dad, you can't be a plastic bottle guy. 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: That's so bad for the environment. Get a Stanley here, 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: use my Stanley, and get me a new one. So 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm using a Stanley and I fill it up and 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: I come back to the set in Shady McCoy's here 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: and he's just like looking at me wide. I yo, 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Cam Newton is all over you. I'm like, what what's 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: going on? Cowhard's cracking up? And Shady McCoy, who is 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: a friend. And I'm not speaking out of pocket. I 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: think I've talked to you guys about this. Some of 57 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: the athletes are pretty cool. I vibe with some of them. 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: I got to be friendly with them right out of 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: the gate. Shady McCoy was just a cool guy. We 60 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: got along. He can take some ribbing. He will dish 61 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: it out, obviously, and he understands. He understands how the 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: game is played, like we're here to be interesting and 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: make comments and back it up. And so he was. 64 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: He says he was at the Fanatics party and he's 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: out with Cam Newton, and all of a sudden, Cam goes, Yo, 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: your boy MacIntyre's he'd been a little out of pocket, 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: and Cam starts out and I'm not saying anything. 68 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm, you know, shady. 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll tell his if I had him on tomorrow, 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: and maybe Cam will invite me on this podcast and 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: we'll discuss it. 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: But according to McCoy, Cam Newton. 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: Felt, I think the gist of it, he felt a 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: little disrespected that I was putting him in tweets with 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy and these type of players 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: when Cam has, let me check my notes here, he 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: has one MVP award. So Cam, I guess, feels like 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: I am not giving him the credit he was due. 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: And listen, Cam Newton at his at the height of 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: his superpowers was incredible. There is no denying that he 81 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: was awesome. The year he had the MVP Award in 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, the guy threw thirty five touchdown passes. I 83 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: believe he had only ten interceptions, running all over the place. 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: He was dabbing. It was incredible. 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: Cam Newton was the jam in twenty fifteen. This is 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: where it gets kind of sort of interesting and again, 87 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm not looking to denigrate the guy. I'm just saying, like, Okay, Kim, yeah, 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: you were incredible that MVP year. 89 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: Got it check. You know what happened the year before that? 90 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: I know we remember all like the Superman and the 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: dab in the fifteen to one they were five, eight 92 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: and one. The year before he went fifteen and one, 93 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: he had eighteen touchdowns past his twelve interceptions, and the 94 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: rushing numbers were not out of this world. And the 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: year after he won the MVP fifteen and when he 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: went six and eight nineteen touchdowns, fourteen interceptions, And I'm 97 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: not trying to put down Cam Newton, I'm just speaking facts. 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: This is like what if if you look at his 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: entire career, you see the year that he won the 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: MVP was almost and I'm not saying it was an outlier, 101 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: but it definitely sticks out among all the other seasons. 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Touchdowns wise, he never topped twenty four except when he 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: had thirty five that one year, and ten was the 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: lowest interceptions he threw as a starter for a full season. 105 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: So it was his best season by a mile. Every 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: other season was up and down as a roller coaster, 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: and Shady essentially was like Cam was saying, basically, he's 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: acting like I wasn't him, and that's kind of the 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: quote he said. And he was like doing these Cam 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Newton like motions, which were I thought funny, but I'm 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: sure in the moment they look cool and whatever. I 112 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: don't know, Rob, was it this stuff we do in 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: the media. I'm not meaning to put him down. 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: When you think you hear Cam Newton, you think, what's 116 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: the first thing that comes to your mind. 117 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: My first thing I think at Cam Newton now is 118 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: the fashion is the hats, is the wild clothes, the 119 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: armbands and everything like that, because that's kind of what 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: he's morphed into recently because he had to play football, 121 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, meaningful football at least in a long time. Secondly, 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I think of that one magical season twenty fifteen, but 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: even then, that season is also clouded by the Super 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Bowl where the fumbles right in front of him and 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: he kind of jumps backwards. Now, yes, I still contend 126 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: that he wasn't actually diving away from the fumble. It 127 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: was more like guys diving at his legs and he 128 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to get his knee buckled. Ina kind of thing, 129 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: but it's not the best look for him. And then 130 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: other than that, I don't think much at all about 131 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. And until he comes up and he starts 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: saying things about people or saying things about you and 133 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: other media personalities that I started looking into Cam Newton 134 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and looking at his season by season and to your point, 135 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: and we talked about this, you know, months ago when 136 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: this thing first kind of popped off, the whole Rock 137 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Purty situation. Cam Newton had a fantastic, miraculous, all time 138 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: worthy twenty fifteen season. I mean, he was absolutely phenomenal, 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: and then like he wasn't the rest of his career. 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: He was okay, he was good, he was a solid 141 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But I don't think he ever had back 142 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: to back winning seasons. I don't think he was ever 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: outside of that one season, like a top five quarterback 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that's not to denigrate Cam Newton, 145 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: like there's a finite number of guys who are consistently 146 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: top five or have more than one or two great seasons. 147 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: It's just the reality of the situation. And so the 148 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: fact that he has you know, anointed himself as the 149 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on quarterback playing in the NFL. It's kind 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of wild to me considering how up and down his 151 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: own career was. 152 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's not an apples to apples, but 153 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: he was such a human highlight reel. I think of 154 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: a guy like Randall Cunningham who did not win an MVP, 155 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: took way too any sacks, but he had like an 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: awesome highlight reel. He's making crazy bombs, running around, absorbing 157 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: hits and making plays like. There was a Cunningham esque 158 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: quality to Cam. Of course, he did much more as 159 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: a pro. But like I say, Troy Aikman, what's the 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: first thing that comes to your mind? Is it announcing 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: or winning Super Bowls with the Cocaine Cowboys. 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Hit the winning Super Bowls with the Codek Cowboys? 163 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's kind of what you want. 164 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: And your first thing for Cam was fashion. 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I think the most significant play in the 199 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: game that changed everything was the punt that was a 200 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: social special team's miscue. It goes off the guy's ankle 201 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: and instead of just simply falling on the ball, I 202 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 3: believe it was Raybay McLeod, maybe not. He tries to 203 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: scoop it up and run, and you're watching it and 204 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: you're just, oh, man, and I know in the moment 205 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: you want to scoop it up and make a play. 206 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: It's easy to say, hey, here's what you should do. 207 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: It's like guy like Chris Weber calling the time out 208 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: or something, you know, like in the heat of the moment, 209 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: it's really tough and armchair quarterbacks can break it down. 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: But he doesn't fall on it. Casey recovers they had 211 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: gone nine possessions and gotten six points. They were doing 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: nothing offensively in this game. Flip the field with the 213 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: special team's misscue. One play later, MBS touchdown, and it's 214 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: the game totally changed. I mean, Niners were in total 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: control at that point, So that to me was the 216 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: number one play. Number two was the missed extra point 217 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: by Moody. And I'm not going to bury the kicker here. 218 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: He did make two from fifty plus, but the missed 219 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: extra point. So they're trailing in the fourth. All right, 220 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: Rock Party, this is the stuff your dream about as 221 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: a kid. 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: It's the fourth quarter. Can I win the game? 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: It's the super Bowl, the top of the mountain. This 224 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: is what you dream about as a kid. And Rock 225 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: Purty goes down and get the touchdown. You're like, yes, okay, 226 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: we got the leader up for she Chiefs who haven't 227 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: been able to do shit offensively. You gotta do something now. 228 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: And then the missed extra point and it's like, oh, well, 229 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: now the Chiefs can just settle for three and tight up. 230 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: And you knew that was gonna be huge, And you 231 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: guys can argue there was still a lot of time left, 232 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: of course, but it totally changes how Casey's calling plays. 233 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: I mean, Casey gets to the red zone six times 234 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: and only delivered two touchdowns. One of them was a 235 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: gift wrapped trip to the end zone on the fumble punt, 236 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: so I thought the mist extra point was massive. And 237 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: the third biggest play was a play made by the Chiefs, 238 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: and that would be the third and four blitz where 239 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie was just unbelievably smart. Essentially, if you watch 240 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: the play and you can rewind it and watch it 241 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: fifty times, it's one of the great blitzes you'll see 242 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. Mcduffy, who is one of the 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: top tier cornerbacks in the league. I ran it a 244 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: Lewis Riddick at the Super Bowl when I was like 245 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: in this hotel and we're chatting and you know about 246 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: the game, and of course he's like, I'm just telling you, 247 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Sneid and McDuffie are the best pair of cornerbacks in 248 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: the league. And I don't think he's wrong. Sneid was 249 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: great against a Yuki. Wasn't perfect, but he was very good. 250 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: And McDuffie makes the play of the game where he 251 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: backpedals as if he's in coverage. As Perty's calling out 252 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: the play, Perty sees him backpedal, and then in an instant, 253 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: McDuffie not only charges the line but times it perfectly. 254 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: The Sea's part the garden, the tackle open up, and 255 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: Mcduffy's in Perdy's lap in under a second and a half. 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: Perty had zero chance. 257 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: I know everybody loves Mahomes, Montana, Brady, Ain't nobody getting it. 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: McDuffie's getting to you and you're not completing the play 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: and third and four that blew up everything. 260 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: You settled for the field goal. 261 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: You know, if they convert that somehow, and I don't 262 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: know how you do. I'm sure Shanahana having nightmares about 263 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: that play. If you convert that, I don't think Mahomes 264 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: gets the ball and you win the game. Right. It 265 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: was at the two minute warning, so Rob those are 266 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: my top three. Number four would be after the Mahomes 267 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: pick on the first drive where the Chiefs tried to 268 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: fumble on first down where Mahomes had the bad pitch 269 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: to Pacheco and they recover it. Then they third and 270 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: long and Mahomes is forced to throw an interception because 271 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: he's got to make a play on third and long 272 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers have the ball in case territory. 273 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: At the forty four You're like, okay, touchdown here, we're 274 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: in business. We get fifteen yards, we get another field goal, 275 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: we're up two scores gold and that penalty on second 276 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: down pushes him to second and long and they couldn't 277 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: do anything on the next two plays and they punt 278 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: it back zero points off a turnover. So those four 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: plays rob in a nutshell, I thought kind of determined 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: the outcome. 281 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. It's kind of funny that during that 282 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: spiel that you went on one play that I had 283 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: at the forefront of my mind you never brought up, 284 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: and that was the incomplete pass in overtime third and 285 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: four inside the ten brock Perdy has two guys open 286 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: on that play, Brandon and I. You get the top 287 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: of the screen, Jawan Jenning's at the bottom and Chris 288 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: Jones gets in his face in er point three seconds 289 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and everyone's marveling after the game, like, man, how did 290 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: Chris Jones being blocked? How Chris Jones being blocked? And 291 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: this is a testament to the sport of football, and 292 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: how even though there's guys like Tom Brady and Patrick 293 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes who get all this credit and publicity, is the 294 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: greatest players of all time, and it's rightfully deserved because 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: playing quarterback is the hardest position in all of sports 296 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion. But Chris Jones was unblocked on that play, 297 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, how do you unblock their best defender? Well, 298 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: lest we forget in the middle of that game, but 299 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: halfway through the Niners right guard gets knocked out of 300 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: the game with an injury. The guy who was supposed 301 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: to slide to the right and pick up Chris Jones 302 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: on that play where she even gets a hand on him, 303 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: gives Brock Purty the extra half second he needs to 304 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: find one of his two wide open receivers. Apparently he 305 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: doesn't know the protection slides the wrong way, Chris Jones 306 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: comes flying in, rushes Purty incomplete pass field goal, so 307 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: on and so forth. As important as guys are like 308 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady and the greatest of all time, 309 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: would you have ever thought that the game ultimately would 310 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: have came down in the final minutes to a backup 311 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: right guard and him not knowing the right blocking assignment, 312 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: and that could ultimately be what decided Patrick Mahomes getting 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: his third Super Bowl, brock perty Kyleshanna getting their first. 314 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. 315 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,479 Speaker 3: I want to drill down for a second on Mahomes 316 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: and I was thinking, Rob, do you remember the last 317 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: playoff game Mahomes lost. 318 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: That would be the the Bengals right at home? 319 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: Yes, at home, And I decided to go back and 320 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: look at that and see what the hell happened? 321 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: How did they lose? 322 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: How did Mahomes lose a playoff game? I mean, he's 323 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: just so damn clutch. And they had that weird moment 324 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: in the end of the first half. They're like running 325 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: away from the Bengals and then they went got greedy, 326 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: went for the touchdown, could not get in Tyreek kill 327 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: was stopped at like the six inch line or whatever whatever. 328 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: Bengals slowly come back, but the game, Mahomes leads them 329 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: down the field, they get a field goal, and it 330 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: goes to overtime. Chiefs get the ball first and everybody's like, 331 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: oh gosh, this is rigged. 332 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: Is such garbage. 333 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: Of course Mahomes is gonna score, so they're forced into 334 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: third and long and Mahomes made a mistake. 335 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: He went yolo. 336 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: Josh Allen like similar to Mahomes third and long against 337 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: the Niners and he has to chuck it deep and 338 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: was intercepted. This one he chucks deep. I think it 339 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: was to Tyreek Hill and it was like batted and 340 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: then intercepted a deep ball, low percentage chance of completion, interception, turnover, 341 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: and is like, oh my gosh, holy cow, Bengals, get 342 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: the ball, go downfield, goal ballgame. 343 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Mahomes. 344 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: Rob has turned into a game manager, which is not 345 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: to knock him or be negative. He was a total 346 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: game manager in the Super Bowl with you know, so 347 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: obviously adding his legs into the mix, but yeah, which 348 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: are game changing. But he was not taking any chances 349 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: after that interception down the field. You can look at 350 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: the spray chart, it's all short stuff. Now you could say, hey, 351 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: he gave it the took what the defense gave him, 352 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: but that's what you're supposed to do, right. You don't 353 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: think Josh Allen would kill to be in the Super 354 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: Bowl and win one if it meant he didn't have 355 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: to go chucking it deep to Digs or Gabe Davis 356 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: and try to make these hero ball plays. That was 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: the last Mahomes loss, and it was like, man, they 358 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: were totally different team. They've essentially reinvented themselves. And you know, 359 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna compare myself to Mahomes, but like, you know, 360 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: I got into this newspaper deal out of college. 361 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I want to write for newspapers. Yeah, 362 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: that's where the action's at. 363 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: And then of course by the time I, you know, 364 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: within two years of me leaving college, the Internet is 365 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: like blowing up, and I'm like, ooh, this is a 366 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: bad decision. The newspapers, it's like freaking trying to turn 367 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: the Titanic doing anything. They don't want to put anything online. 368 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: They're scared of the Internet. F this. So I got 369 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: out of newspapers and I pivoted to magazines and I 370 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: was reinventing myself there. And then I started a website. 371 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: Let me take advantage of this new fangled Internet thing. 372 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 3: I go into web, reinventing myself once again. Then the 373 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: web happens and the website, you know, the big lead 374 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: is got a little lucky with that, and next thing, 375 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: you know, it's like, oh, let me add and pivot 376 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: to radio, and now I'm reinventing myself. Let me, let 377 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: me try this radio thing. Then I go podcast, adding 378 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: a podcast to the Ledger. Then it's TV, and like 379 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: you're constantly reinventing yourself if you're in sports media. I 380 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: don't think this really applies to like accountants and stuff, 381 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: but who knows. So I find myself constantly having to 382 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: change and evolve, and I feel like the Chiefs rob 383 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: have totally done that. They used to be the explosive team. 384 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: I remember they went like the length of the field 385 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: within like thirteen seconds. I don't think they could do 386 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: that right now, did. I don't think they can pull 387 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: that off the way they did against the Bills with 388 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: like these splash plays to Tyreek Hill. And they're just 389 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: not the same type of team. Sure they can methodically 390 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: get down the field, but they're not the old Chiefs. 391 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: They've pivoted, just like how the Patriots under Brady were 392 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: like defense, First, run the football, Okay, then it's let's 393 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: go two tight ends. Then it's or maybe it was 394 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: next was Moss. And when Randy Moss and the fifty 395 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: touchdowns for Brady, then it was let's get to the slot. Receivers, 396 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: Wes Welker, Edelman, who's the other guy the they add. 397 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: Into the way, who Avendola? 398 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: Avendola? Thank you? 399 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: The slot receivers. And then it was like, let's let's 400 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: do the two tight end sets Gronk and Aaron Ornandez 401 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: and and the Patriots were constantly tweaking and evolving. And 402 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: the scary part is the Patriots kind of set the 403 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: blueprint for the Chiefs, who I think are doing it. 404 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: Rob They won this game with defense and essentially Patrick 405 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: Mahomes like that was it and and it's it kind 406 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: of sucks for the rest of the league. I mean, 407 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they're locking up the next five titles. 408 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: I just I think every every defensive coordinator who's got 409 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: like a playoff ords a team like top ten Super 410 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: Bowl odds basically needs to spend half the summer on 411 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: how the hell do we stop Patrick Mahomes, whether it's man, 412 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: whether it's own, whether it's blitzing, disguising blitzer, what do 413 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: you do? Because if he gets the ball late, it 414 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: feels inevitable. 415 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: Rub Yeah, it really does. And just to your point, 416 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: we started off tking about Patrohans the game manager. In 417 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He was six of eleven on passes 418 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: beyond ten yards of the line of scrimmage, one touchdown, 419 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: one pick. Not great, No, I mean not terrible, but 420 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: not great. Nothing you'd expect from a Super Bowl MVP 421 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: that is known for having one of the livest arms 422 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: in all of football. That he only pushed the ball 423 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: down the field one of every four passes, and he 424 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: completed just over half of his pass to one of 425 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: them being an interception. So it's definitely a far cry 426 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: from what we saw from Patrick mahonmes when he first 427 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: got into the league. And I'm glad you brought up 428 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots because Teddy Bruski said something to the Athletic 429 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: last week before the Super Bowl talking about this current 430 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: iteration of the Chiefs, and one thing he said that 431 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: really stroke with me is very quite profound. Actually, he 432 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: said that these Kansas City Chiefs are exactly like the 433 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Brady Patriots in reverse. When Tom Brady was winning these 434 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowls early on, lean on defense, don't turn the 435 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: ball over. We're gonna win these games. Seventeen, fourteen, twenty 436 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: to seventeen, whatever it is. Just don't make the big mistakes. 437 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: Tom and that's how they want three or four. Flash 438 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: forward to the end of his time in New England. 439 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: The defense was good but not great, you know, save 440 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: for that Super Bowl against the Rams, against Sean McVay. 441 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: They were the bend but don't break type of defense. 442 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: But at that time Tom Brady had fully evolved. He 443 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: was throwing the ball more, as you mentioned, to Gronk 444 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: and Aaron Hernandez, Randy Moss and all these different guys, 445 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Wes Welker, and they win three more doing it that way. 446 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: This has happened to the same thing with Mahomes, but 447 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: he got it done the other way around. He came 448 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: into the league slinging the ball over the field, doing 449 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: whatever he had to do for throwing it up to 450 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, making all these big time plays, and they 451 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: won their first two Super Bowls playing like that. This season, 452 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: obviously they don't have the weapons. They had the worst 453 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: drops in the NFL, but they had a great defense. 454 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes set himself after the Ravens game, Look, 455 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be times where I'm gonna be asked Tom 456 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: do things and push them all down the field and 457 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: try to make plays, and so on and so forth. 458 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: But with the defense like we have when they're playing 459 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the way they are, part of the game is let's 460 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: burn some clock high efficiency passes. Even if we don't score. 461 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: As long as we're able to keep the clock moving, 462 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: lean on this defense a little bit, we are going 463 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: to win a lot of games. And that's exactly what 464 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: they did against Baltimore. We talked about it that he 465 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: was great to start off the game touchdown, touchdown, and 466 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: then he kind of went into a shell. That offense. 467 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: They didn't score the entire second half. It is because 468 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: they didn't need to. And just to put into perspective, 469 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: the seventeen points the Chiefs scored to beat the Ravens 470 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl would not have been enough 471 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: to win in any of the previous five of their 472 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: six AFC championship games. So he's playing at a different 473 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: style now than even he played two years ago. And 474 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: it's a testament to how great he is, and it's 475 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a testament to how selfulware he is, because this is 476 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: something that Josh Allen still hasn't learned. You don't always 477 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: need to go yolo, you don't always need to make 478 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the you know, twenty five percent pass that when you 479 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: make it. It looks fantastic, but it could also lead 480 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: to an interception. Sometimes taking a four yard pass a 481 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: seven yard pass, getting a first down or two in 482 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: punting is the smart thing to do. And that's why 483 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is back acros off the mountaintop, because he's 484 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: willing to humble himself and do whatever is necessary to 485 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: get the job done. 486 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Let me just quickly ask you to wrap up. 487 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: We saw the story that a bunch of Niners players 488 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: were uncertain of the overtime rules, and everybody's of course, 489 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, listen. Kyle Shanahan, for whatever reason is people 490 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: just don't like him. I feel like and when I 491 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: say people, I'm talking like media members. I don't care 492 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: about the cranks and the trolls on the internet. 493 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't. 494 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: My gut tells me the media doesn't like Kyle Shanahan 495 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: because a Kyle Shanahan, like you know, is one of 496 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: these like I know everything kind of guys like Trump 497 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: and a trade up and grab Trede Lance. I know 498 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: he's you know, like people want to bag on Shanahan. 499 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: Maybe something to do with his dad. I don't know, 500 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: the genius label and he hasn't won a Super Bowl 501 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: whatever it is. People just don't like him. 502 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: And I saw a lot of media types popping into 503 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: my timeline the story that like, oh, Kyle Uchik didn't 504 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: know the overtime rules, and neither did this guy and 505 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: that guy. And I'm like, all right, wait a minute. 506 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: I was at I was at a party with like, 507 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 3: I don't know, fifty fifty plus people, and people are 508 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: looking at me like, hey, what are the overtime rules? 509 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't freaking know. 510 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: They changed them. Both teams get the ball, and. 511 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: Then we're like, oh, okay, okay, both teams get the ball. Well, 512 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: both teams will have a chance. And then it was like, well, 513 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: why is the clock running? Okay, oh it's a new game. 514 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: Ah okay. So when the clock was winding down on 515 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: the Hardman play, if the clock had hit the zeros, 516 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: it would have gone to what the second quarter, and 517 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: we would have like switched sides of the field. Well, okay, 518 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: does that mean if we were like tied after I 519 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: don't know two more possessions, we would go to a 520 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: halftime of an overtime? 521 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: Like how far do you stretch this? 522 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: I There was just so much uncertainty, like I'm not sure, 523 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: I know, I know, Jason, come on, you're a guy 524 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: with a bunch of random people at a party of 525 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: you don't need to know the rules, caution and needs 526 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: to know the rules. 527 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm listen. 528 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: Mikole Hartman caught the touchdown pass and went on air 529 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: and didn't like, basically didn't know the game was over. 530 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes had to run and be like, you won 531 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl for us, and Maharbman was like stunned. 532 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: He they admitted that, So it's not like it was 533 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: just the forty nine ers. I'm sure some people in 534 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and I know the Chiefs players did say, 535 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: oh yeah, we rehearsed this and that and this. Okay, Well, 536 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: Hartman still didn't know the game was over. I don't know, Rob. 537 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: I cannot get worked up about Kyle Shanahan. I thought 538 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: he had a fine game plan. Obviously people want to 539 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: talk about going away from the run in the third quarter. 540 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: That's fine. 541 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: When I rewatched the game, I didn't It didn't look 542 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: like the Chiefs made a ton of different changes. The 543 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: holes just I don't know, weren't really there. I mean, 544 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: McCaffrey wasn't breaking a ton of tackles. I didn't think 545 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: he had that great of a game. I mean, he 546 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: might have won the MVP if they won. He had 547 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: like the long catch and run, but he was just solid. 548 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 549 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: I didn't think McCaffrey had like an eight plus game. 550 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just can't crush Shanahan, rob, 551 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you disagree. 552 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of disagree only because I did 553 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: say yesterday that he was the doc rivers of the NFL, 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: and I shared that audio on social media. 555 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Which I did see that, which you did not retweet. 556 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: But it's okay, No, it's okay, don't worry about it. 557 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're moved on. We've moved past it. But no, 558 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: to your point, Christian McCaffrey and that Spagnolo defense, which 559 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: was twenty eighth against the Wine coming into the game, 560 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: held him to three point six yards per carry, his 561 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: lowest yard per carry in any game in which Trent 562 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: Williams was active at left tackle. 563 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: So they were great. 564 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, with Kyle Shanahan, as far 565 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: as the rules go, yes, he's paid to know that rule. 566 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: But I can tell you for a fact that a 567 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: lot of people who even work in the sport and 568 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: cover the sport didn't know those rules. Case in point, 569 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: on the Monday night edition of The Odd Couple on 570 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Rod Woodson, who calls games for the 571 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, he's a Hall of Fame defensive back, one 572 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: of the greatest players ever and also a great analyst, 573 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: had to get corrected during the interview by Chris Brussard 574 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: about the overtime rules because he didn't quite understand them. 575 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on Rod. I'm sure he 576 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind me sharing that. It's just that's the reality 577 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: of the situation because this was the first time I'd 578 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: ever been implemented. The only issue that I have with 579 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannhan is it didn't just come down to not 580 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: running the football. It didn't just come down to you know, 581 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: late gameplay calling, didn't just come down to the overtime rules. 582 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, he was uneven throughout that game and just 583 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: case in point three of twelve on third down twenty 584 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: five percent, which is actually exactly on par with what 585 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: his offensive done in the third down in the three 586 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances. The one with the Falcons and the 587 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: two here with the Niners. He was good in some spots, 588 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: he was pouring other spots. And when you're the head 589 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: coach and you have that much talent on your roster, 590 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: ultimately you're gonna get a lot of credit when things 591 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: go well. You're also gonna get a lot of blame 592 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: things go bad, And unfortunately for him, they have a 593 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: history of things going bad in the Super Bowl. 594 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get your point. By the way, 595 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: the Doc Rivers thing that was funny so far. So yeah, 596 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 597 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: I just I'm a little My biggest takeaway, Rob is 598 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: that I think it's a bummer the Chiefs one, because 599 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't think it gives us like storylines galore for 600 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: like the days after the Super Bowl. You know, you're 601 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: having to come down from the NFL season, and it's 602 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: just like, oh, Chiefs dying shrug read his back, Damn 603 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: Kelsey and Taylor Swift, Which is fine. Patrick Mahomes is 604 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: twenty eight years old and now has three Super Bowls 605 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: and three Super Bowl MVPs, And it's just to me, 606 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: the better storyline would have been the Niners and David 607 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: take down Goliath. 608 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Mahomes. 609 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: You know, Purdy wins, and then it's like, well, what 610 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: do you do with Perdy? Do the Niners have to 611 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: pay him all of the money in like a year. 612 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: I think he's got one more year on the cheap 613 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: and then next offseason they'll have to make a decision 614 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: on him. But it's like, there's no you know, Perdy 615 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: was fine. You got them in position to win and 616 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: ultimately they didn't. But that I don't think that's a storyline. 617 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: I don't, you know, the monkey not off the back 618 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: of Shanahan. But again, we went over it yesterday, like 619 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: Don Shula, I think is two and four in Super Bowls. 620 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: You know Marv Levy lost four. We're not going to 621 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: do this, Kyle, Shanahan's of a choke artist. I think 622 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: it's way too early. I mean Doc Rivers has been 623 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: around in coaching for like twenty years. You know that 624 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: guy is a choke artist. I think Shannana little premature. 625 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Well just look at Andy Reid. How long do you 626 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: think Andy Reider break through? 627 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you took Andy Reid. I think twenty years? 628 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: Right, man, he's living, he's living that almost exact same storyline. Kyle, 629 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Shannvers Andy Rea. Remember any reading the Eagles four straight 630 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: ancy championship games, they lose three of them, they win one, 631 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: You get to the super Bowl and lose. So he's 632 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of right on part. 633 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: Weren't they rob weren't they at home for like two 634 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: or three of those? Yeah? I mean they were, and 635 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: they were great teams back then. Yeah. 636 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the defenses were loaded and they just kept coming 637 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: up short. And here's the thing that now looking back, 638 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: was like almost twenty years ago, wasn't it. 639 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think one of the homes. That's all. 640 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: He just needs the greatest quarterback ever to join his team. 641 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: But that that is interesting that you bring that up. 642 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: So essentially Reid got close and then finally got a 643 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: superstar quarterback, the greatest ever. 644 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: And now read is like on the Mount Rushmore. 645 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Huh, that's all it takes. Apparently, no boy. 646 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: Ksey fans are gonna love us. All right, that's all today. 647 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow.