Speaker 1: What's that at the joy I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 1: It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, hey boo, it's me Ros. It's that time
Speaker 1: of the month. It's time for a listener phone call extravaganza.
Speaker 1: I love doing these episodes so much, and of course
Speaker 1: I want you to be on if you've got some
Speaker 1: stories to tell, so you know what to do email
Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Put in the
Speaker 1: subject line listener episode or something like that, and then
Speaker 1: give me some bullet points. But I should say like
Speaker 1: bullet points, I don't know. I just don't want you
Speaker 1: to type too much, you know, I don't want you
Speaker 1: to put too much into air, you know. Just give
Speaker 1: me an idea, but also don't put too little. Like
Speaker 1: put like a sentence or two about each story, the
Speaker 1: gist of what it is. Is it an alien story?
Speaker 1: Is it a haunted house story? Sleep paralysis? What is it?
Speaker 1: That kind of a thing, and then send it away
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Speaker 1: I've got Brad, and I've got Jennifer, so let's just
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Speaker 1: the description. On with the show, Hello Jesse and Rochester,
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 2: Hi Roz, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. I love your energy. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to hear what you got from me. Where do we start?
Speaker 2: I mean, I am one of those people that has
Speaker 2: so many ghost stories, so I like sat down and
Speaker 2: like wrote you a little list, and then I like
Speaker 2: prioritized because I know, you know, we have a lot
Speaker 2: to get through. But I think the biggest story is
Speaker 2: probably that I grew up in a haunted house.
Speaker 1: Okay, give it to me. What did this look like?
Speaker 2: So it was like a nineteen hundred house in Rochester,
Speaker 2: and you know when my mom bought it, there was
Speaker 2: a lot of renovation that needed doing, like old wallpaper
Speaker 2: and carpets getting torn up, and well totally, I mean
Speaker 2: there's just ghosts that are like, hey, what are you
Speaker 2: guys doing to the floor. But when we started doing
Speaker 2: things to the house in classic haunted house fashion, things
Speaker 2: started happening. And it's so funny because growing up I
Speaker 2: had all these stories and it's not like I thought
Speaker 2: I made them up, but hearing my mom or my
Speaker 2: brothers tell them too, I'm always shocked where I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: that really happened, Like we really lived in this kind
Speaker 2: of crazy place. So the first thing that would happen,
Speaker 2: or that we noticed happening, was that you'd hear voices,
Speaker 2: like the attic was finished and my bedroom was up there,
Speaker 2: and when you would go up the stairs to the attic,
Speaker 2: it would sound like like I had one of those
Speaker 2: teen line phones, do you remember those okay extension lines?
Speaker 2: And I would think it was my answering machine going off,
Speaker 2: and so I would like run up there to see
Speaker 2: who called me, and there'd be nothing, or all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you'd hear someone from downstairs or upstairs, well what,
Speaker 2: and then someone would say nothing and everyone would be
Speaker 2: kind of confused. So it started like that, and then
Speaker 2: one afternoon I took a shower and I got out
Speaker 2: of the shower and I heard something in my mom's room,
Speaker 2: and I, offhand, just not paying attention, walked in there
Speaker 2: and in the corner was a little girl and she
Speaker 2: was sitting there in the corner with her hands over
Speaker 2: her face, and like the room was cold, like total,
Speaker 2: like horror movie style, and I like yelped and ran
Speaker 2: downstairs and told my mom what happened. And she just
Speaker 2: stared at me, and I was like, no, I'm not
Speaker 2: making it up, and she goes, no, no, I believe you.
Speaker 2: I've seen her too.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, oh why was her hand face?
Speaker 2: We don't so we're not one hundred percent sure, but
Speaker 2: my mom said she would wake up in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, she would hear a noise, it would
Speaker 2: get cold, she would think it was one of us kids,
Speaker 2: and there this little girl would be in the corner,
Speaker 2: and that she just told herself that it was a dream,
Speaker 2: it was her imagination until I saw it, and then
Speaker 2: we would talk to her. And she was only ever
Speaker 2: in that corner of the room. There were only a
Speaker 2: couple of times like that first time I saw her,
Speaker 2: and those times before my mom really was like looking
Speaker 2: for her that we saw her like straight on. Every
Speaker 2: other time we saw her, it was like out of
Speaker 2: the corner of your eye, and as soon as you
Speaker 2: kind of focused, she'd be gone.
Speaker 1: Did you say, as creepy.
Speaker 2: So all the things that happened would be creepy when
Speaker 2: they happened. But the house had a really lovely feel
Speaker 2: to it. It was never like an ominous house. It
Speaker 2: was always just kind of nice to be there. So
Speaker 2: we also saw there were two full body apparitions and
Speaker 2: maybe a ghost dog, which we'll see about that. But
Speaker 2: the other one was this tall woman who was dressed
Speaker 2: you know, kind of turn of the sentry. I mean,
Speaker 2: kind of like a high necked blouse, long skirt, hair up,
Speaker 2: and exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about both of these stories is they
Speaker 3: were so cliche, and that's part of why I was like, man, Jesse,
Speaker 3: you're just you know, you just like scary movies, Like
Speaker 3: you just read a lot of Stephen King, like whatever it.
Speaker 2: Was, and then hearing someone else like talk about it,
Speaker 2: it's like, no, maybe they're cliches or cliches for reason exactly.
Speaker 2: And after we saw the woman, she would be on
Speaker 2: the staircase. We'd see her on the stairs. We me
Speaker 2: and some of my friends were like, we're doing the
Speaker 2: ouiji boar, We're going to talk to this lady. And
Speaker 2: this part I think we might have made up a
Speaker 2: little just as like imaginative like tweens. But we had
Speaker 2: a whole backstory on that lady that supposedly came to
Speaker 2: us through the Ouiji board, and that there was like
Speaker 2: an ice skating accident. I don't know like that part.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was a lot of imagination. But yeah,
Speaker 2: people would see what they'd they'd say, who's upstairs all
Speaker 2: the time, like when you'd have people over, who's upstairs,
Speaker 2: and you know, we'd just say, oh, it's the ghost,
Speaker 2: Oh it's the lady. You know, Oh it's the little girl.
Speaker 1: But what would make them think that there was somebody upstairs?
Speaker 2: They would hear it, or voices or walking or like
Speaker 2: just you'd see someone out of the corner of your eye.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of that. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of like you'd put something down on a table and
Speaker 2: then you'd walk away and you'd come back and it
Speaker 2: would be like on the other side of the table. O.
Speaker 2: My god, my brother one time, when he was like
Speaker 2: a toddler, my mom was home home. Maybe he's a
Speaker 2: little bit older than that, but she was home and
Speaker 2: she all of a sudden got this panicked feeling and
Speaker 2: she felt pushed. She said to go into the kitchen,
Speaker 2: and she like caught my brother right before he fell
Speaker 2: off the counter. He had like climbed up there. So
Speaker 2: the house seemed to like us. The ghost dog story,
Speaker 2: this is a weird one. So I was home alone.
Speaker 2: We had two dogs, and one was a little Corgi
Speaker 2: and the other one was a big you know, a
Speaker 2: big black lab, and the little Corgi would like the
Speaker 2: black lab would go down into the basement and get
Speaker 2: himself stuck, and then the Corgi would like stand at
Speaker 2: the oh excuse me, stand at the top of the
Speaker 2: stairs and bark until you'd go and get the big dog.
Speaker 2: So I'm home alone and the little dog is barking.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, final, go get the big dog.
Speaker 2: I go down into the basement and it's one of
Speaker 2: those sort of upstate New York basements where there's not
Speaker 2: really a hallway, but it's a series of rooms that
Speaker 2: you can like walk through in a circle. Do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's terrifying, but yes, yes.
Speaker 2: And the doors had like swinging hinges and so they'd
Speaker 2: close behind you, which is why the dog would get stuck.
Speaker 2: So I go down in there and the dog is
Speaker 2: not stuck. He's just standing in the open room. You
Speaker 2: get to at the bottom of the stairs, and I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, come on, get upstairs, and he just
Speaker 2: stared at me and I was like I got like
Speaker 2: a shiver, and I was like, hey, get upstairs. And
Speaker 2: he started walking away from me and like whining, and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is freaky. I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: So I run upstairs, I get the little dog, I
Speaker 2: go upstairs. I go to go upstairs, and when we
Speaker 2: go upstairs, the big dog was already upstairs. I know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no explanation.
Speaker 1: Was a doggle ganger?
Speaker 2: A doggle ganger? It was the upside down dog?
Speaker 1: Was it not your dog?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 1: I'm confused.
Speaker 2: No, I mean like that's was it a ghost? It
Speaker 2: looked like my dog?
Speaker 1: Was it doggle ganger?
Speaker 2: It was a doggle ganger? It must have been. So
Speaker 2: those are like the big stories from that house. And yeah,
Speaker 2: just a lot of like doors. We had pocket doors
Speaker 2: that would just like open themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well.
Speaker 2: So I grew up in that environment, so of course
Speaker 2: I was like, ghosts exist, you know, So I've entered
Speaker 2: lots of I don't know life experiences willing to believe.
Speaker 2: One of my other favorite stories is I was spending
Speaker 2: the night in a punk house. So all that to
Speaker 2: say that I was not sleeping in a traditional like bedroom.
Speaker 2: It was kind of this weird hallway with like a
Speaker 2: like a futon in it, and this house lots of
Speaker 2: people had very like unsettling experiences. The story was that
Speaker 2: there was a murder there, and uh, you know, and
Speaker 2: of course that's kind of punk house lore, like I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how true or not true that is. But
Speaker 2: me and a friend were staying in this hallway and
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, my friend was pushing
Speaker 2: me like like to roll over, and kept pushing me
Speaker 2: and pushing me to roll over, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm over as far as I could go. Fine, And
Speaker 2: I rolled over into my friend. So yes, whatever was
Speaker 2: pushing me was not my friend. And I like sat
Speaker 2: straight up and I was like, I can't sleep and
Speaker 2: I can't sleep here anymore. Like it was hands on me,
Speaker 2: ras like.
Speaker 5: It was pushing, pushing, pushing, like it felt I mean,
Speaker 5: I can't I I could not believe how.
Speaker 2: Physical it was right, like it was so real. So
Speaker 2: that was kind of a fun spooky one. I know,
Speaker 2: I know. Have you ever been touched by a ghost?
Speaker 1: Yes, never pushed, but well, it does remind me of
Speaker 1: the story of the time when I stayed at the
Speaker 1: Haunted Bed and Breakfast and I felt that the sheets
Speaker 1: kind of going a little bit over my head or
Speaker 1: like going down, because I had them over my head
Speaker 1: because I was scared. And then I looked over it
Speaker 1: and my friend was not pulling the sheets over my head,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was him who was also in
Speaker 1: the bed with me. But oh god, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what else? What else?
Speaker 2: What else? So? So one time, So another ghost touching story.
Speaker 2: I lived in Chicago for a number of years, and
Speaker 2: when I lived there, we lived on the top, like
Speaker 2: the third floor of a three story like Chicago shotgun apartment,
Speaker 2: and we would see I mean that that apartment was
Speaker 2: off and you'd you'd see like what looked like a
Speaker 2: man standing in like the backstairwell, like when you would
Speaker 2: turn the lights on and off, where you're like whoa,
Speaker 2: and then you'd turn the lights back on and like
Speaker 2: there's nothing there. You'd hear footsteps on the roof, which
Speaker 2: I guess someone could have been up there. But like
Speaker 2: we really didn't. We tried to see, like is there
Speaker 2: a ladder? Is there a fire escape up there? Nothing
Speaker 2: that we could tell. And my roommate, who is a
Speaker 2: much less spooky person than I, made me change rooms
Speaker 2: with her, and she wouldn't tell me why. She was like, uh,
Speaker 2: I just I just want the other bedroom. It's closer
Speaker 2: to the kitchen. Whatever it was. She made up some story,
Speaker 2: which really was because there was this horrifying ghost in there.
Speaker 2: And one night in that apartment, I woke up with
Speaker 2: hands on my ankles pulling me down the bed and
Speaker 2: we moved out of there, like we did not renew
Speaker 2: our lease. We were like not interested in staying in
Speaker 2: that apartment.
Speaker 1: That's such a like bubbly sweet way of telling this scary.
Speaker 2: Like and then I saw a monster. It was I mean,
Speaker 2: I yeah, I sound up beyat, but it was actually
Speaker 2: very frightening.
Speaker 1: But how much were you moving?
Speaker 2: Like what is it felt like it felt like you know,
Speaker 2: a few inches, like it felt like getting pulled, you know.
Speaker 2: And around that time, so I have chronic night terrors
Speaker 2: and uh, which it's interesting and this is like, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a whole like wormhole to fall down into that.
Speaker 2: We don't need to right now. But I feel like
Speaker 2: there's an overlap in people who have experienced trauma, where
Speaker 2: people who have like neurodivergent brains and like our ability
Speaker 2: to experience more right like our brains just even if
Speaker 2: you just think about it, like hypervigilance, Like hypervigilance makes
Speaker 2: you aware of everything. And so my night terrors, when
Speaker 2: I first started having them, I thought I was like possessed,
Speaker 2: Like I thought I was truly Like I went and
Speaker 2: saw a medium, you know, like I was like, there's ghosts.
Speaker 2: They won't leave me alone, Like I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do about it. And in that apartment in Chicago,
Speaker 2: like was when the sleepwalking started, and I would I
Speaker 2: would wake up like running in that apartment, like running
Speaker 2: away from something.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so scary to be sleeping and running.
Speaker 2: It's very scary. And I've and good news. I have
Speaker 2: had a lot of therapy and like my medium is
Speaker 2: great and I do much less of you know, because
Speaker 2: sleepwalking is dangerous, you know, and I do. I do
Speaker 2: much less of it now. So that's awesome. And I
Speaker 2: have a night terror And I know you're interested in
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis stuff like when I'm having a night terror,
Speaker 2: I see what people describe in sleep paralysis.
Speaker 1: Are you but is this like the other symptoms of
Speaker 1: sleep paralysis, like are you able to move or yes?
Speaker 2: So I don't get paralyzed. Instead, like like my fight
Speaker 2: or flight response is like definitely fight, you know, like
Speaker 2: I will yell, I'll jump up, I'll be like get
Speaker 2: out of here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: But I've seen like the shadow men, I've seen the hag,
Speaker 2: this big like tentacle monster thing that comes out of
Speaker 2: the ceiling. That's like, oh, I just got like a shiver,
Speaker 2: like just thinking about it. And during my journey to
Speaker 2: have better sleep, because it really does affect your whole
Speaker 2: life when you don't sleep great. One of the things
Speaker 2: that I did was I got like an app that
Speaker 2: sinked like with my Apple Watch and with my phone,
Speaker 2: so that I could monitor how much rem sleep I
Speaker 2: was getting. And one of the things that it does
Speaker 2: is it records when it hears sounds in the night.
Speaker 2: And so I have this whole I guess you'd call
Speaker 2: it a collection of me saying some of the most
Speaker 2: batshit crazy stuff you've ever heard in your life in
Speaker 2: my sleep, and a lot of it's funny, like one
Speaker 2: time I sang uh Erica Jane from Real Housewives of
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, like, yes, so I have this, I'll send
Speaker 2: it to you on Instagram or something like I have
Speaker 2: a recording of me in my sleep going is expensive
Speaker 2: to be mad and then my poor partner.
Speaker 1: Going, No, have you ever recorded something talking back that
Speaker 1: wasn't human?
Speaker 2: No? But here's the weird of well, And that's why
Speaker 2: I've never done like a video recording because I don't
Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to know, you know, like
Speaker 2: I don't want to know that much. I do talk
Speaker 2: about the weird clicking bug in my sleep. I'll say
Speaker 2: that weird clicking bug is back, which.
Speaker 1: Is very nist. Do you know what you're talking about?
Speaker 2: I don't. But in some of the recordings there's this
Speaker 2: weird like digital decay sound that happens. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like it's it's kind of a mystery. And that's sort
Speaker 2: of where it's that overlap of like, yes, my brain,
Speaker 2: like I know from like kind of a physiological standpoint
Speaker 2: that my brain is up to stuff, but also I
Speaker 2: feel like there's like like if we looked at the
Speaker 2: Venn diagram, the center might be kind of big, you know,
Speaker 2: like how much of it is the external stimulus and
Speaker 2: how much of it is you know, my brain just
Speaker 2: trying to process stuff. But it's I mean, I do
Speaker 2: talk about like there are times that like we'll hear
Speaker 2: stuff on the recording that I'm like, oh, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was the tentacal thing or oh yeah, like I thought
Speaker 2: there was a man in here, or you know, whatever
Speaker 2: the case might be. So that's spooky, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: but better, it's better in these days. And part of
Speaker 2: it was well part of it too, I think, like
Speaker 2: was empowering to hear like, oh, like a lot of
Speaker 2: this is not actually scary, like I mean, Erica Jane
Speaker 2: is kind of scary, but but not like tentacle monster scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think Erica Jane is visiting you in
Speaker 1: your sleep?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean perhaps I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have anything, I don't have the earrings,
Speaker 2: I don't have anything to help her with.
Speaker 1: Okay, can we have one more take bit from Jasse?
Speaker 2: One more so so. One of the houses that my
Speaker 2: partner and I lived in when when we were younger
Speaker 2: was this creepy little cottage house in a neighborhood in
Speaker 2: Rochester that used to be the Erie Canal. So the
Speaker 2: Erie Canal is this very famous canal that was dug
Speaker 2: across western New York to transport goods, services, and animals
Speaker 2: from one side of the state to the other. And
Speaker 2: they moved it at one point. And so there's a
Speaker 2: part of our city that's now a highway that used
Speaker 2: to be the canal. And this little neighborhood is right
Speaker 2: alongside where the canal originally was, and it's called the
Speaker 2: Wadsworth Square neighborhood, and it's where the blacksmith lived where
Speaker 2: they would shoe the horses that dug the can I
Speaker 2: did a bunch of research because I was like, what
Speaker 2: is going on in this house? So I bring that
Speaker 2: up because I believe that that entire property is haunted.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was just our little house, because
Speaker 2: whatever it was would come and go. I've had other
Speaker 2: friends that lived in that neighborhood that have really spooky stories.
Speaker 2: And one time in that house people no one liked
Speaker 2: spending the night in that house. They'd sleep on our
Speaker 2: couch and they'd say, no, thank you, I'll get a
Speaker 2: cab next time. Yeah, and we didn't really know why.
Speaker 2: Like we knew the house was kind of spooky. We
Speaker 2: knew it was really old. It was like a dirt
Speaker 2: floor basement, so that's just that's just creepy, Like no
Speaker 2: one wants to go in a dirt floor basement, you know.
Speaker 2: So one night, we may or may not have been
Speaker 2: doing drugs, which is a little bit relevant to the story.
Speaker 2: But like my partner and I were taking a bath together,
Speaker 2: as you do when you know you've been up with
Speaker 2: you've been up all night, and we're sitting in the
Speaker 2: tub and there's a quiet moment and the water settles
Speaker 2: and we're just sitting there and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this giant black shadow burst out of the drain pipe
Speaker 2: and splashed us and like flew around the room and
Speaker 2: then left. And we sat there with our jaws open,
Speaker 2: like unable to speak until I was like, we have to,
Speaker 2: on the count of three, say what we saw, you know,
Speaker 2: because shared hallucination is not common, you know, Like I
Speaker 2: I was like, did we did we just experience that?
Speaker 2: And we did, and it was like the craziest it was.
Speaker 2: It was wild, like I've never seen anything. I've seen
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 2: It was like it looked like a void. It looked
Speaker 2: like negative space is like the only way I could
Speaker 2: describe it.
Speaker 1: Where did it.
Speaker 2: Go out out into the hallway and down the stairs?
Speaker 2: It like flew away.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know.
Speaker 2: We had to like put ourselves to bed and watch
Speaker 2: Kung Fu to like feel better. And we'd see things
Speaker 2: move in that house. And at one point we used
Speaker 2: one of the downstairs rooms as a bedroom because you know,
Speaker 2: in early like you do in your early twenties, we
Speaker 2: had like six roommates or whatever, so we lived in
Speaker 2: one of the downstairs bedrooms. And then we found out
Speaker 2: why no one liked to spend the night, because you
Speaker 2: would hear a man's voice from the dirt floor basement
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. I would wake up
Speaker 2: and be on not sleep paralysis, but like I'd be
Speaker 2: too scared to open my eyes because I knew something
Speaker 2: was standing over me. I know it was awful, but
Speaker 2: it would leave, and like that's that was the weirdest part.
Speaker 2: Was like I'd come home sometimes and I would be like, shit,
Speaker 2: he's here. Like it was like you know when you
Speaker 2: have a roommate that's just got a foul attitude and
Speaker 2: it just like stinks up the whole house. Like that's
Speaker 2: that's what this entity was like, Like when it was around,
Speaker 2: it was awful to be there, and when it wasn't there,
Speaker 2: you could like feel its absence.
Speaker 1: So did you ever talk to your friends where that,
Speaker 1: you know, did they ever have the details like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sleeping on your couch and there was a
Speaker 1: man over me.
Speaker 2: Totally, and like I said something to one of my
Speaker 2: friends offhand one time about how creeped out I was
Speaker 2: and how I couldn't wait until we moved, you know,
Speaker 2: like I couldn't wait to not live there anymore. She
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I would never live there. I
Speaker 2: was like what she was like, Yeah, I had one
Speaker 2: of the scariest nights of my life sleeping on your couch,
Speaker 2: just feeling like someone was just watching. Oh awful, awful.
Speaker 7: I hated it too, and especially like because I had
Speaker 7: such a lovely experience like as a kid, where yeah,
Speaker 7: it was spooky.
Speaker 2: Like when you see something you don't expect to see,
Speaker 2: but it never felt threatening. It never felt like we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be there. So to have that other end of
Speaker 2: the spectrum experience where you're like, you're like, should we go?
Speaker 2: You know, like it's just not a good feeling. Not
Speaker 2: a good feeling.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like meeting roommates on Craigslist or something. You
Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to get. It's a complete stranger.
Speaker 1: You're literally living in a house with a stranger. So
Speaker 1: they have all different kinds of habits or attitudes or
Speaker 1: problems or or they're great. Like it's you never know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Craigslist and ghosts, you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Seriously, well, Jesse, you gave me the goods.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad. I love the listener episode, so
Speaker 2: I hope it was good for other listeners too.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, absolutely, there's a ghost in my house. I
Speaker 1: am talking to Brad on the mountaintops of Tennessee. Brad,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 6: I'm doing really great? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm fabulous. I'm on this Halloween hangover. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a weird time, like this week after Halloween. But
Speaker 1: I'm still I can't get enough of this stuff. I
Speaker 1: need more. I need more ghost stories. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: through this email you sent me, and we got all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff here. We got queer witches, we got
Speaker 1: beastie boys. Where do we start?
Speaker 6: Do you want to start at my beginning?
Speaker 1: Sure, let's hear the origin story, Yeah, because we had.
Speaker 6: My whole family has stories, and some of them go
Speaker 6: from beyond I was born. But my first house that
Speaker 6: I lived in that I can really remember, it's in Andover, Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: It's on It's an old mill house, and so it's
Speaker 6: like a group of five or four row houses that
Speaker 6: were all connected.
Speaker 1: And this is like Salem area, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Andover is like thirty minutes away from Salem nowadays,
Speaker 6: but Salem used to be like the biggest town back
Speaker 6: in like Pilgrim era.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 6: And these old millhouses also creepy because when we moved in,
Speaker 6: my parents found our neighbors walking into our house because
Speaker 6: the basements were all shared. Oh yeah, and they were
Speaker 6: dirt floors basements too, so it's even creepier.
Speaker 1: Eh, that is a nightmare. So that means at any moment,
Speaker 1: a living human could just be in your basement, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then enter into your house.
Speaker 6: My dad had to put on a lock so that
Speaker 6: no one would come in.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's have you seen Barbarian not yet, okay,
Speaker 1: never mind, okay, kid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a really small place. It was like very tiny,
Speaker 6: but it had two floors and on the second floor
Speaker 6: where our three bedrooms. My brother and I shared a bedroom,
Speaker 6: my sister got her own, and then my parents shared there.
Speaker 6: At the end of the hallway and it was kind
Speaker 6: of a long hallway and we would always see someone
Speaker 6: walking up and down the hallway with wearing a robe.
Speaker 6: Oh well, we wouldn't say. The next morning we would
Speaker 6: be like, Mom, there was like a man walking in
Speaker 6: our hallway and she was like, oh that was that
Speaker 6: was just Uncle Al slept over. Who is my dad's
Speaker 6: best friend?
Speaker 1: Was your mom like covering? Like she knew what was up?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because she actually saw stuff. She never saw the
Speaker 6: things that we saw, but she would always see a
Speaker 6: cat walking around.
Speaker 1: When you say a rope while we talk in bathrobe?
Speaker 1: Are we talking?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: Yeah? And like pajamas, like proper pant and like button
Speaker 6: up top pajamas.
Speaker 1: So kind of a more contemporary ghost yeah, or like for.
Speaker 6: Me, I feel like fifties okay. And he also kind
Speaker 6: of glowed green whoa like if you think about like
Speaker 6: when you close your eyes and you can still see
Speaker 6: the image of someone, and sometimes that image is greenish.
Speaker 6: It was like that walking it down and standing in
Speaker 6: the doorways and stuff.
Speaker 1: So did you ever did you ever go up to
Speaker 1: your uncle Al and be like, Uncle Al, why do
Speaker 1: you keep sleeping over? And He's like, that's not me.
Speaker 6: We never did, but I don't think we thought much
Speaker 6: of it because my parents were party people. Okay, so
Speaker 6: it wasn't I don't think it was unusual for that
Speaker 6: to maybe have actually happened.
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, okay.
Speaker 6: But we actually saw two other ghosts too. One was
Speaker 6: kind of just like an orb but really big and
Speaker 6: would get would blow off like a little white For me,
Speaker 6: that one was very calming.
Speaker 1: Where would you say this? You mean like the bubble
Speaker 1: Lady from Wizard of Oz would disappear or what?
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny you say that, because when I explained
Speaker 6: that that's what I would see, my brother said that
Speaker 6: a like princess with a fairy wand once came to
Speaker 6: him and it glowed blue though not pink like Glinda.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's just a full on ghost party
Speaker 1: at this house.
Speaker 6: The last one is the one that creeked me out
Speaker 6: the most. It kind of to me has like it
Speaker 6: was like an old man almost no shadow.
Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, and he's.
Speaker 6: The one who would actually come into the room.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what do you mean, like in your bedroom
Speaker 1: or where.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is all like we normally saw them when
Speaker 6: we were sleeping or supposed to be going to sleep.
Speaker 6: And for some reason where those people who like left
Speaker 6: our doors open when we go to sleep.
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. That's what happens. That's why you
Speaker 1: don't do that. I my I'm just about to the
Speaker 1: point where I tilt a chair and put it under
Speaker 1: the door knob situation, just to make sure nothing comes in.
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, that's where we're at now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've well, you've learned your lesson. So so an
Speaker 1: old man with a nosfaratu shadow would creep his way
Speaker 1: into your bedroom at night and then what.
Speaker 6: Well, so normally I would see him and he's just
Speaker 6: like in the crack of the door, kind of like
Speaker 6: like the normal shadow figure that people say when they
Speaker 6: see shadows. But he would sometimes come into the bed.
Speaker 6: We had bunk beds, and I was on the bottom, No,
Speaker 6: I was on the top, and my brother was on
Speaker 6: the bottom and I would just kind of like see
Speaker 6: him walking around like the foot of the bunk.
Speaker 1: Bed, but he would come he would go into the bed.
Speaker 6: Not into the bed just like okay, like staying outside
Speaker 6: of the bed, but like walking around the foot of
Speaker 6: the bed. Which it does kind of get a little
Speaker 6: worse in that house because one time my brother said
Speaker 6: he dreamt of little demons trying to like pull him
Speaker 6: under his bed, and when he woke up, he had
Speaker 6: scratches all over his back.
Speaker 1: So what do you think was going on with this house?
Speaker 6: I think it's just like it's so old, it's a
Speaker 6: lot of people turn over, and it's like that area
Speaker 6: like Massachusetts, I think is one of the most haunted
Speaker 6: places because it has such a long history. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: a bad history.
Speaker 1: Okay, I need. I still have so many more questions
Speaker 1: from this email. What is this BC Boys story?
Speaker 6: This one is kind of like a funny one. That
Speaker 6: is where my parents live now, and it is also
Speaker 6: a condominium, so it's all connected housing. And for parts
Speaker 6: of the time, our aunt actually lived across the parking lot.
Speaker 6: And I'm I think I was like early teens and
Speaker 6: this is Beastie Boys Sabotage had its like Behind the
Speaker 6: Music Video special and my brother and I were watching
Speaker 6: it and we were home alone. My parents were partying
Speaker 6: over at my aunt's house, and my sister and her
Speaker 6: boyfriend were out, and we were going to we're watching
Speaker 6: the music video at the end of the show because
Speaker 6: they play the final thing, and we were singing along
Speaker 6: with it, and then like we were being goofy and
Speaker 6: went to go sing the like sabotage at each other.
Speaker 6: And when we went to go do it, we heard
Speaker 6: someone upstate and to me, it was more like gutturals,
Speaker 6: so it's like sabotage, and we like we were laughing.
Speaker 6: We thought this is my sister or her boyfriend making
Speaker 6: fun of us. So we ran upstairs from our family room,
Speaker 6: which was on the basement, looked around. No one came home.
Speaker 6: We went upstairs, no one was to the third floor,
Speaker 6: no one was there. And then we even went over
Speaker 6: to my aunt's house and was like, did one of
Speaker 6: you come over and like make fun of us? And
Speaker 6: they're like no, and we don't want kids around us,
Speaker 6: so go home, and we pretended. We were like let's
Speaker 6: just you know, whatever, it was nothing, Let's go back
Speaker 6: downstairs into the basement and continue watching TV. But I
Speaker 6: don't think we were there for more than five minutes
Speaker 6: before we were like, let's actually turn on every single
Speaker 6: light in the house and go to bed.
Speaker 1: Was so, do you think it is this the same
Speaker 1: ghost followed you or just the luck of your family.
Speaker 6: I do think that's a little bit of a luck
Speaker 6: of our family because my mom's birthday is Halloween.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: She's always been a little witchy and has had premonitions
Speaker 6: in her life, and then so have I had like
Speaker 6: premonition ay dejavoos, and we're always have been open to
Speaker 6: these things. So I think for a long time they
Speaker 6: either found us or followed us because we just are
Speaker 6: witchy and at that time goth.
Speaker 1: Mm a full goth family.
Speaker 6: Well, me and my brother were. My sister was right
Speaker 6: a girl punk cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so tell me. Can you tell me any
Speaker 1: premonition stories?
Speaker 6: They're all, Well, my mom has the best ones, which
Speaker 6: is before she knew she was pregnant, she had a
Speaker 6: dream that she gave birth to a pink blanket and
Speaker 6: then took a test and found out that she was
Speaker 6: pregnant with my eldest sister, and then she like two
Speaker 6: years later, had a dream that she gave birth to
Speaker 6: a blue blanket and took a test and found out
Speaker 6: that she was pregnant for my brother.
Speaker 1: Now that's how you do a gender revealed party. Do
Speaker 1: you know how much that would save the forest fires
Speaker 1: and all the shit these people are doing on TikTok?
Speaker 1: Just have a premonition. It's cheaper, it's easier.
Speaker 6: I think it's also very accepting at my mom to
Speaker 6: not have that dream about me when I'm non binary.
Speaker 6: She like, couldn't put a blanket color to it.
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's at.
Speaker 6: Least what I like to spend. I think she just
Speaker 6: didn't care.
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, so she has three children and
Speaker 1: she didn't have a dream of about you.
Speaker 6: No, but I did also have that disorder when you're
Speaker 6: born with your cord around your neck. Oh so I
Speaker 6: do think I was like, maybe not supposed to happen
Speaker 6: to me anyways.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, But okay, hang on a second. I was
Speaker 1: just going back to your brother's demon dream that was
Speaker 1: you said that it was mentioned on Oprah. What do
Speaker 1: you mean your brother went on Oprah?
Speaker 6: No, so this is actually a different dream or a
Speaker 6: different thing that happened in our current home. My brother
Speaker 6: got up to go to the bathroom. And the way
Speaker 6: that our third floor is is the bathroom looks over staircase.
Speaker 6: And so when he was leaving the bathroom, he looked
Speaker 6: down the stairs and he says that he saw like
Speaker 6: a cat sized goat creature on it on its hind
Speaker 6: legs with like demony hands.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of cute, I know.
Speaker 6: And he but he says that he's still too afraid
Speaker 6: to like look it up because like a week later,
Speaker 6: he was watching like Sylvia Brown on Oprah or something
Speaker 6: and they like mentioned this like nightmare demon that like
Speaker 6: has lore and showed a picture of it or like
Speaker 6: a rendering of it, and it was the thing that
Speaker 6: he saw. So now he's like too freaked out about
Speaker 6: it to like even try and show me and our
Speaker 6: sister pictures of it or any thing. So I'm like,
Speaker 6: I want to see what this looks like.
Speaker 1: It sounds cute, like the size of a cat. Like,
Speaker 1: are they're going to be a demon? At least be
Speaker 1: like a cute demon, you know, like a little goat demon.
Speaker 6: Baby, just give it some snacks and make it friends.
Speaker 1: I know that would be a great pat Well, anything else,
Speaker 1: I feel like you definitely have provided everything that I
Speaker 1: love on the show.
Speaker 6: I do have one more, I think really good story
Speaker 6: that I think something might have followed us from the
Speaker 6: first house to our second house, okay, because also it's
Speaker 6: my brother, me and my brother's friend from there, and
Speaker 6: when we moved, he was upset that he wouldn't see
Speaker 6: her again. So she came to visit one day and
Speaker 6: we upgraded to two twin beds instead of instead of
Speaker 6: bunk beds, sharing in a room. And we were on
Speaker 6: his bed next to the closet and we were playing,
Speaker 6: and then the closet slid open and at like a
Speaker 6: forty five degree angle. My brother is my pet monster
Speaker 6: stuffed animal flung out of the closet and fell at
Speaker 6: the bed.
Speaker 1: And this is the same house where the little baby
Speaker 1: demon go.
Speaker 6: No, that's a different one, okay, So that's why I'm
Speaker 6: less like it did something. I think something might follow us,
Speaker 6: or just luck of the draw that everywhere we are
Speaker 6: something happens.
Speaker 1: So today, do you have things happening to you?
Speaker 6: Not really? I mean I do get still. I always
Speaker 6: got sleep prowless, but it happens a lot less now,
Speaker 6: and I also have a lot less intuitive things happen now.
Speaker 6: But I think, like now that I'm nearing forty, I
Speaker 6: think like walls have been put up. Mmmm. I want
Speaker 6: to open up and see if I can get things back.
Speaker 6: But every once in a while, I get like a
Speaker 6: premonition deja vu, and it's too intense for it to
Speaker 6: not be something. But it's also something really stupid, Like
Speaker 6: I remember working this day job and turning around and
Speaker 6: seeing my co worker, but it's like I would never
Speaker 6: have seen her before. I never knew it. I wanted
Speaker 6: that I was going to work that job.
Speaker 1: Or something like that. Yeah, that's how it always is
Speaker 1: for my Ami. I was like, really, this is what
Speaker 1: I get, like this blip of like something that doesn't matter, Like.
Speaker 6: Two are not useful to be like I know the
Speaker 6: future now right?
Speaker 1: Well, Brad, this was lovely. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: taking the time.
Speaker 6: Thank you. I'm like, I mean, I'm so excited to
Speaker 6: share my stories with you. I love the pod.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 6: But these are great watching the YouTube?
Speaker 1: Oh please, do I've been ghosted too? Hello Jennifer in
Speaker 1: the Lone Star.
Speaker 4: State, Hey rise, I'm still happy.
Speaker 1: Hi wait is it the Lone Stars? Stay? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the Lone Stars State Texas. Well, Jennifer, I was reading
Speaker 1: that you live in a current haunted house.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I do the story.
Speaker 1: What's up with that?
Speaker 4: Well, I okay, the house has not even been here
Speaker 4: for that long. It was we moved here in ninety eight,
Speaker 4: like put it on this property, and the house you
Speaker 4: lived in before was haunted, and like this is a
Speaker 4: new house. I feel like our family maybe is just
Speaker 4: haunted or ghost just come in and out. Like I
Speaker 4: don't feel like we have the same ghosts every single day,
Speaker 4: But I don't know, there's always weird stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Like what give me an example, Like one.
Speaker 4: One time I got up to go to the bathroom
Speaker 4: or got up to get something to eat in the
Speaker 4: middle of the night, came back to my room and
Speaker 4: in the hallway there was a tall woman and she
Speaker 4: would like a ghost like you typically he like see
Speaker 4: think about, like glowy white. And she she looked like
Speaker 4: the like the girl from the Ring kind of with
Speaker 4: her shir It was scary.
Speaker 1: But but what do you mean, Like she had hair
Speaker 1: over her face.
Speaker 4: Kind of like it was a you could see her
Speaker 4: face a little bit. But but I looked at her,
Speaker 4: and the thing is because I've seen ghosts a lot,
Speaker 4: like since I was a kid, and instantly you're scared,
Speaker 4: because that's just the normal human reaction. But then you
Speaker 4: feel their energy and it's usually peace and calm and fine,
Speaker 4: and then you're instantly not scared anymore. It's hard to
Speaker 4: describe if you've never had it, I think, but so
Speaker 4: you say, usually, yeah, I will always for me, I've
Speaker 4: never experienced something that I that was bad.
Speaker 1: I'm good for you. That's pretty lucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've experienced stuff that I couldn't see
Speaker 4: that I felt was bad. But when I've actually seen
Speaker 4: something like an apparition, it's always been good. If it
Speaker 4: was negative, it's always in the shadows, and I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't see it, so so I no, no, but
Speaker 4: this ghost I looked at it. And then the weird
Speaker 4: thing is then I just woke up in my bed
Speaker 4: the next morning and I have no recollection of did
Speaker 4: I walk through her to get to my room, did
Speaker 4: she disappear? Did she take me on an adventure? I
Speaker 4: don't know what happened that night. It was so weird.
Speaker 1: WHOA. So the last thing you remember was seeing her.
Speaker 4: Yes, seeing her, and I'm looking into her eyes, which
Speaker 4: were kind of dark whole sort of I don't know
Speaker 4: it was. It reminded me of you ever heard of
Speaker 4: the children with the black eyes? Have you heard her?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me of that, but she didn't
Speaker 4: feel evil.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, this is just a wild I like to
Speaker 1: get a little weird over here. What if it was
Speaker 1: like an alien abduction?
Speaker 4: Maybe that would be cool.
Speaker 1: Big eyes, Yeah, lots of time. That sounds almost like
Speaker 1: an alien abduction.
Speaker 4: That would be cool. I've never thought of a lot like that.
Speaker 1: I never think of long haired aliens, but why not?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I don't see one on I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's all kinds of aliens anyway, So why not long?
Speaker 1: Is that the only it's a big galaxy, you know,
Speaker 1: that could be a planet with long haired aliens? Yes,
Speaker 1: So okay, have you seen this woman ever again?
Speaker 4: No? Never saw again?
Speaker 1: Alien alien?
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, now I'm gonna I'm gonna categorize myself into
Speaker 4: something else now alien survivor.
Speaker 1: So what's the story with this current place you're living in?
Speaker 1: What's been going on?
Speaker 4: Okay? Well, this is the crazy his stories. I said,
Speaker 4: I've seen ghosts, I've had things happen since I was little,
Speaker 4: Like my great grandma was in my bedroom once after
Speaker 4: she passed away, things like that. But this is the
Speaker 4: craziest thing I think that's ever.
Speaker 6: Happened to me.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was about a year ago, and things started
Speaker 4: happening in my bedroom. Like things start like my my
Speaker 4: TV remote would be in a different place, like on
Speaker 4: the bed when I got up, or like my vape
Speaker 4: would just be like on the dresser and not on
Speaker 4: the bed. But like easily explainable things because I just
Speaker 4: am kind of flaky sometimes and I don't remember where
Speaker 4: I sat. Stuff so very dismissible. Then it got more intense.
Speaker 4: I was eating a bowl of ice cream. I set
Speaker 4: the bowl on my bedside table, went to the bathroom
Speaker 4: and came back. Bowl and spoon were just sitting on
Speaker 4: the floor. I was like, okay, that's weird, like not
Speaker 4: where it fell, you know, it was sitting right there.
Speaker 1: Was there still ice cream left you? Or you were done?
Speaker 4: I was done?
Speaker 1: Okay. I forgot that people use bowls for ice cream
Speaker 1: because I just eat it right out of the things.
Speaker 4: And then one night I got up to go to
Speaker 4: the bathroom, and when I came back, my laundry hamper
Speaker 4: was in the middle of my doorway, just blocking it,
Speaker 4: and it was like something's trying to get my attention.
Speaker 4: And it didn't feel scary. It felt like childish, kind
Speaker 4: of like playful, like somethings just trying to get your attention.
Speaker 4: But I don't know what they're trying to say. What
Speaker 4: do they want me to pay attention to? Was it
Speaker 4: a little yes? Right, do your laundry? And so I
Speaker 4: just kind of wrote it off. I was like, well,
Speaker 4: it's just one of the cooky things that happens to me.
Speaker 4: Like I just have weird stuff happened, I have interesting stories. Well,
Speaker 4: then my daughter, who was nine at the time, she
Speaker 4: started getting terrified. She would in the middle of the night,
Speaker 4: she would come to my room want to sleep with me.
Speaker 4: She said that there was a dark shadow figure with
Speaker 4: long hands and long fingers standing at the edge of
Speaker 4: her bed every night, scaring her, and that she felt
Speaker 4: him watching her all the time, even during the day
Speaker 4: with the light on. If I was in there with her,
Speaker 4: She's like, no, he's always watching me. So, being a
Speaker 4: good mom and slightly slightly wo wo, I did a
Speaker 4: whole cleansing thing, like did sage and palatoe and oil.
Speaker 4: Got put some crystals in there, and you know, did
Speaker 4: a good cleansing for her room, and everything felt good,
Speaker 4: and I came to my bedroom and her rooms at
Speaker 4: the end of the hall. I came to my bedroom
Speaker 4: and I was facing facing my opposite wall, when all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I could feel a And this is weird.
Speaker 4: I've never experienced this before and never have since. But
Speaker 4: in my mind's eye, I saw someone standing in my doorway,
Speaker 4: which would be to my back, and it was a
Speaker 4: a figure like six two six ' three, dressed all
Speaker 4: in black, a black trench coat, black like fedora hat.
Speaker 4: His face was it looked like remember the time, I
Speaker 4: were thinking dried corn husks, you know what that looks like? Okay,
Speaker 4: but but later it's like, no, kind of like Freddy
Speaker 4: Krueger face like that. His eyes look black, I think,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't see. And as I saw him, I
Speaker 4: instantly had all of these memories flood back that I
Speaker 4: had completely repressed from when I was a child, and
Speaker 4: that man used to stand by my bed at night,
Speaker 4: I had, and I had totally forgotten about that, And
Speaker 4: so as I looked at him, I just said out loud.
Speaker 4: I said, you can't scare me anymore. And he smirked
Speaker 4: like he had a big mouth, big smirk, and then
Speaker 4: our back door slam shut so loud, like so so loud,
Speaker 4: but it slam shut twice. So I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know what that means. I don't know if he
Speaker 4: slamed shut. And he left, but then he was like,
Speaker 4: I'm coming back.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I forgot something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But as soon as he left. The weirdest thing
Speaker 4: is that ceiling of the of the stuff when stuff
Speaker 4: was moving in my room, that childish familiar feeling. I
Speaker 4: got that and I kind of missed him all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, and I and that's weird. And I did
Speaker 4: research and I realized that's a phenomenon known as the
Speaker 4: hat Man. And I've done a lot of research on
Speaker 4: that since then. Most people see the hat man like
Speaker 4: in sleep paralysis. They see him at night. Very few
Speaker 4: people see him in the daytime, but there are stories
Speaker 4: of that. A lot of them say he's evil, that
Speaker 4: he comes when something like a like a foreboding. He's
Speaker 4: telling people that you know, he's gonna say that he
Speaker 4: comes before something bad happens. But nothing bad ever did happen?
Speaker 4: And when I was a kid, I was scared, but
Speaker 4: after a while I wasn't. I don't know because I
Speaker 4: just got used to it or what I feel like
Speaker 4: he just watches, he just watches.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But my daughter never describes seeing a hat man like
Speaker 4: her is her goes is different.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a different one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and everything cleared up in her room for
Speaker 4: a little while, for a little while, it came back,
Speaker 4: did another cleansing. It just is this endless cycle. But
Speaker 4: but the hat man has not returned since.
Speaker 1: So okay, so the hat man, same one from childhood,
Speaker 1: he hasn't aged, he's the same. You still recognized him,
Speaker 1: he remembered you. Yeah, that is so creepy. And then
Speaker 1: so what's this? Where is your daughter's situation at right now?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it currently appearing or what it?
Speaker 4: We just did another cleansing last week. It seems like
Speaker 4: it'll go away for it stays gone. Few were in
Speaker 4: fewer days, if that makes sense. It's like the cleansing
Speaker 4: is less and less effective. I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 4: something else. I don't know what, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to find the professional to come in and
Speaker 4: figure this out, because she wants to sleep with me
Speaker 4: every night, and she is a giant child. It's like
Speaker 4: having a full grown adults sleep next to me, but
Speaker 4: they don't want her to be scared. You know that's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't notice anything. You know, everything has
Speaker 4: been toy quiet in my room.
Speaker 1: Well that's good. Yeah, this is so scary to me. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: do you have any other stories you want to share?
Speaker 4: Well? I do have one story, and this could be
Speaker 4: why my daughter's bedroom is like does attract spirits? Just
Speaker 4: a short little one I I had. I had gone
Speaker 4: through some stuff. I was like really emotionally mentally in
Speaker 4: a very bad place, really depressed, had quit my professional
Speaker 4: little job, moved back home, and so we lived with
Speaker 4: my parents. And I was like, I don't even believe
Speaker 4: in God anymore. I'll believe in spirits. I don't believe
Speaker 4: in any of that stuff, Like that's not even real,
Speaker 4: you know. I was just really dark, dark place. I
Speaker 4: was sitting on my back porch smoking a cigarette. And
Speaker 4: we live on like sixty acres in the middle of
Speaker 4: a field, and this time there's corn growing. So you
Speaker 4: couldn't see you, just there's like children of the corn
Speaker 4: out there. But it never scared me. And all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, I couldn't hear anything, I couldn't feel anything,
Speaker 4: but I just you know that feeling you get in
Speaker 4: your heart when it's just adrenaline, when you were so scared,
Speaker 4: like so scared, like when you're going up a like
Speaker 4: a what am I saying, like a ride or something.
Speaker 4: But all of a sudden, I was just terrified and
Speaker 4: I didn't know why, but I ran into my house
Speaker 4: to get away from whatever it was. My daughter was
Speaker 4: asleep in my room, so I went into her room,
Speaker 4: so I was like, that was weird, that was crazy.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. I'm just gonna hang
Speaker 4: out in here because I'm not ready to go to bed.
Speaker 4: And then a few minutes later, there was a knocking
Speaker 4: on the door, just to like bang bang bang, like
Speaker 4: someone wanted in, and I flew like, apparently you're not
Speaker 4: supposed to do this, but I flung the door open
Speaker 4: and I said, oh fuck, no, this is not happening,
Speaker 4: and I went to my room terrified. That was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: I believe, I believe, or you don't have to come
Speaker 4: banging down my door to make me like, you know,
Speaker 4: spiritual again. But ever since then is when her room
Speaker 4: has been haunted, Like her room especially has had weird
Speaker 4: stuff going on in it, caird, I know.
Speaker 1: Was this the same door that the hat man left
Speaker 1: out of?
Speaker 4: No, No, different door. It's across the hallway though.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 4: I think we need we need like a psychic to
Speaker 4: come out here and talk to all the spirits and
Speaker 4: figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it's it's interesting how that how it
Speaker 1: worked for you. You said, I'm not scared of you anymore,
Speaker 1: and it left. I wonder if that would work in
Speaker 1: your daughter's room.
Speaker 4: I've told her to yell and to tell it like,
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of you, go away, And she said,
Speaker 4: then it just gets bigger. Yeah, more terrifying than anything
Speaker 4: I've ever experienced.
Speaker 1: Jennifer, are you like? Are you in our Facebook group?
Speaker 1: I am okay. If anyone listening to this has any
Speaker 1: advice for Jennifer, hit up Jennifer in the Facebook group.
Speaker 1: Please ghost it by Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 2: Please do.
Speaker 4: I would appreciate any help I could get.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, so much to Jesse, Brad and Jennifer.
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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me.
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