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Speaker 1: Yes, please, hey boo, it's me Ros. It's that time

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Speaker 1: of the month. It's time for a listener phone call extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: I love doing these episodes so much, and of course

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Speaker 1: I want you to be on if you've got some

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Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Put in the

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Speaker 1: subject line listener episode or something like that, and then

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Speaker 1: give me some bullet points. But I should say like

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Speaker 1: me an idea, but also don't put too little. Like

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Speaker 1: gist of what it is. Is it an alien story?

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Speaker 1: Is it a haunted house story? Sleep paralysis? What is it?

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Speaker 1: That kind of a thing, and then send it away

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens today. I have got Jesse,

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Speaker 1: the description. On with the show, Hello Jesse and Rochester,

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Speaker 2: Hi Roz, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. I love your energy. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to hear what you got from me. Where do we start?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I am one of those people that has

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Speaker 2: prioritized because I know, you know, we have a lot

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Speaker 1: Okay, give it to me. What did this look like?

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Speaker 2: So it was like a nineteen hundred house in Rochester,

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Speaker 1: But what would make them think that there was somebody upstairs?

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Speaker 1: Was a doggle ganger?

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Speaker 2: A doggle ganger? It was the upside down dog?

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Speaker 1: Was it not your dog?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean like that's was it a ghost? It

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Speaker 2: I know. Have you ever been touched by a ghost?

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Speaker 1: Yes, never pushed, but well, it does remind me of

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Speaker 2: What else? So? So one time, So another ghost touching story.

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Speaker 1: That's such a like bubbly sweet way of telling this scary.

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Speaker 2: people who have like neurodivergent brains and like our ability

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Speaker 2: like was when the sleepwalking started, and I would I

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so scary to be sleeping and running.

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Speaker 2: It's very scary. And I've and good news. I have

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Speaker 2: So I don't get paralyzed. Instead, like like my fight

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: But I've seen like the shadow men, I've seen the hag,

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Speaker 2: like just thinking about it. And during my journey to

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Speaker 1: Going, No, have you ever recorded something talking back that

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Speaker 2: No? But here's the weird of well, And that's why

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know that much. I do talk

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Speaker 1: Is very nist. Do you know what you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: I don't. But in some of the recordings there's this

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Speaker 2: of where it's that overlap of like, yes, my brain,

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Speaker 2: it was well part of it too, I think, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think Erica Jane is visiting you in

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean perhaps I was gonna say, like,

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Speaker 1: Okay, can we have one more take bit from Jasse?

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Speaker 2: One more so so. One of the houses that my

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was just our little house, because

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Speaker 2: whatever it was would come and go. I've had other

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Speaker 2: And one time in that house people no one liked

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Speaker 2: Like we knew the house was kind of spooky. We

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Speaker 2: So one night, we may or may not have been

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Speaker 2: But like my partner and I were taking a bath together,

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Speaker 2: because shared hallucination is not common, you know, Like I

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Speaker 2: I was like, did we did we just experience that?

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Speaker 2: And we did, and it was like the craziest it was.

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Speaker 2: It was wild, like I've never seen anything. I've seen

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Speaker 1: Where did it.

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Speaker 2: It like flew away.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I know.

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Speaker 2: We had to like put ourselves to bed and watch

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Speaker 2: Was like I'd come home sometimes and I would be like, shit,

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Speaker 2: that's what this entity was like, Like when it was around,

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Speaker 2: it was awful to be there, and when it wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: So did you ever talk to your friends where that,

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Speaker 1: I was sleeping on your couch and there was a

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Speaker 2: Totally, and like I said something to one of my

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Speaker 2: was like what she was like, Yeah, I had one

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Speaker 7: I hated it too, and especially like because I had

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Speaker 2: Like when you see something you don't expect to see,

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Speaker 2: You know, like it's just not a good feeling. Not

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like meeting roommates on Craigslist or something. You

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Speaker 1: You're literally living in a house with a stranger. So

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Speaker 1: problems or or they're great. Like it's you never know

435
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get.

436
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: Craigslist and ghosts, you never know what you're gonna get.

437
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Seriously, well, Jesse, you gave me the goods.

438
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad. I love the listener episode, so

439
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: I hope it was good for other listeners too.

440
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: Oh yes, absolutely, there's a ghost in my house. I

441
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: am talking to Brad on the mountaintops of Tennessee. Brad,

442
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: how are you?

443
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: I'm doing really great? How are you doing?

444
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm fabulous. I'm on this Halloween hangover. I feel like

445
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: it's a weird time, like this week after Halloween. But

446
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm still I can't get enough of this stuff. I

447
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: need more. I need more ghost stories. So I'm looking

448
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: through this email you sent me, and we got all

449
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff here. We got queer witches, we got

450
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: beastie boys. Where do we start?

451
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: Do you want to start at my beginning?

452
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Sure, let's hear the origin story, Yeah, because we had.

453
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 6: My whole family has stories, and some of them go

454
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: from beyond I was born. But my first house that

455
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 6: I lived in that I can really remember, it's in Andover, Massachusetts.

456
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 6: It's on It's an old mill house, and so it's

457
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 6: like a group of five or four row houses that

458
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 6: were all connected.

459
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: And this is like Salem area, right.

460
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Andover is like thirty minutes away from Salem nowadays,

461
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 6: but Salem used to be like the biggest town back

462
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 6: in like Pilgrim era.

463
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

464
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 6: And these old millhouses also creepy because when we moved in,

465
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: my parents found our neighbors walking into our house because

466
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: the basements were all shared. Oh yeah, and they were

467
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 6: dirt floors basements too, so it's even creepier.

468
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Eh, that is a nightmare. So that means at any moment,

469
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: a living human could just be in your basement, yeah,

470
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: and then enter into your house.

471
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 6: My dad had to put on a lock so that

472
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 6: no one would come in.

473
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's have you seen Barbarian not yet, okay,

474
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: never mind, okay, kid.

475
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a really small place. It was like very tiny,

476
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 6: but it had two floors and on the second floor

477
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 6: where our three bedrooms. My brother and I shared a bedroom,

478
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 6: my sister got her own, and then my parents shared there.

479
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 6: At the end of the hallway and it was kind

480
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: of a long hallway and we would always see someone

481
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: walking up and down the hallway with wearing a robe.

482
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 6: Oh well, we wouldn't say. The next morning we would

483
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: be like, Mom, there was like a man walking in

484
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 6: our hallway and she was like, oh that was that

485
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 6: was just Uncle Al slept over. Who is my dad's

486
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 6: best friend?

487
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Was your mom like covering? Like she knew what was up?

488
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, because she actually saw stuff. She never saw the

489
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 6: things that we saw, but she would always see a

490
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: cat walking around.

491
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: When you say a rope while we talk in bathrobe?

492
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Are we talking?

493
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: What?

494
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? And like pajamas, like proper pant and like button

495
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 6: up top pajamas.

496
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: So kind of a more contemporary ghost yeah, or like for.

497
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 6: Me, I feel like fifties okay. And he also kind

498
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 6: of glowed green whoa like if you think about like

499
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: when you close your eyes and you can still see

500
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: the image of someone, and sometimes that image is greenish.

501
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 6: It was like that walking it down and standing in

502
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 6: the doorways and stuff.

503
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: So did you ever did you ever go up to

504
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: your uncle Al and be like, Uncle Al, why do

505
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: you keep sleeping over? And He's like, that's not me.

506
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: We never did, but I don't think we thought much

507
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: of it because my parents were party people. Okay, so

508
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: it wasn't I don't think it was unusual for that

509
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 6: to maybe have actually happened.

510
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, okay.

511
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: But we actually saw two other ghosts too. One was

512
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: kind of just like an orb but really big and

513
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 6: would get would blow off like a little white For me,

514
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 6: that one was very calming.

515
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Where would you say this? You mean like the bubble

516
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Lady from Wizard of Oz would disappear or what?

517
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny you say that, because when I explained

518
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 6: that that's what I would see, my brother said that

519
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 6: a like princess with a fairy wand once came to

520
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: him and it glowed blue though not pink like Glinda.

521
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's just a full on ghost party

522
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: at this house.

523
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 6: The last one is the one that creeked me out

524
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 6: the most. It kind of to me has like it

525
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 6: was like an old man almost no shadow.

526
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, and he's.

527
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: The one who would actually come into the room.

528
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So what do you mean, like in your bedroom

529
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: or where.

530
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is all like we normally saw them when

531
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: we were sleeping or supposed to be going to sleep.

532
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 6: And for some reason where those people who like left

533
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 6: our doors open when we go to sleep.

534
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. That's what happens. That's why you

535
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: don't do that. I my I'm just about to the

536
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: point where I tilt a chair and put it under

537
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the door knob situation, just to make sure nothing comes in.

538
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, that's where we're at now.

539
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've well, you've learned your lesson. So so an

540
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: old man with a nosfaratu shadow would creep his way

541
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: into your bedroom at night and then what.

542
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: Well, so normally I would see him and he's just

543
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 6: like in the crack of the door, kind of like

544
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 6: like the normal shadow figure that people say when they

545
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: see shadows. But he would sometimes come into the bed.

546
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 6: We had bunk beds, and I was on the bottom, No,

547
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 6: I was on the top, and my brother was on

548
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 6: the bottom and I would just kind of like see

549
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 6: him walking around like the foot of the bunk.

550
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: Bed, but he would come he would go into the bed.

551
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 6: Not into the bed just like okay, like staying outside

552
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 6: of the bed, but like walking around the foot of

553
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 6: the bed. Which it does kind of get a little

554
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: worse in that house because one time my brother said

555
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 6: he dreamt of little demons trying to like pull him

556
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 6: under his bed, and when he woke up, he had

557
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 6: scratches all over his back.

558
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: So what do you think was going on with this house?

559
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: I think it's just like it's so old, it's a

560
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 6: lot of people turn over, and it's like that area

561
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 6: like Massachusetts, I think is one of the most haunted

562
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 6: places because it has such a long history. Yeah, and

563
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 6: a bad history.

564
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I need. I still have so many more questions

565
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: from this email. What is this BC Boys story?

566
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 6: This one is kind of like a funny one. That

567
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 6: is where my parents live now, and it is also

568
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 6: a condominium, so it's all connected housing. And for parts

569
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 6: of the time, our aunt actually lived across the parking lot.

570
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 6: And I'm I think I was like early teens and

571
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 6: this is Beastie Boys Sabotage had its like Behind the

572
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 6: Music Video special and my brother and I were watching

573
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 6: it and we were home alone. My parents were partying

574
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 6: over at my aunt's house, and my sister and her

575
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 6: boyfriend were out, and we were going to we're watching

576
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 6: the music video at the end of the show because

577
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 6: they play the final thing, and we were singing along

578
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: with it, and then like we were being goofy and

579
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 6: went to go sing the like sabotage at each other.

580
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 6: And when we went to go do it, we heard

581
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: someone upstate and to me, it was more like gutturals,

582
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 6: so it's like sabotage, and we like we were laughing.

583
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 6: We thought this is my sister or her boyfriend making

584
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 6: fun of us. So we ran upstairs from our family room,

585
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 6: which was on the basement, looked around. No one came home.

586
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 6: We went upstairs, no one was to the third floor,

587
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 6: no one was there. And then we even went over

588
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 6: to my aunt's house and was like, did one of

589
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 6: you come over and like make fun of us? And

590
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: they're like no, and we don't want kids around us,

591
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: so go home, and we pretended. We were like let's

592
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: just you know, whatever, it was nothing, Let's go back

593
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 6: downstairs into the basement and continue watching TV. But I

594
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: don't think we were there for more than five minutes

595
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 6: before we were like, let's actually turn on every single

596
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 6: light in the house and go to bed.

597
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: Was so, do you think it is this the same

598
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: ghost followed you or just the luck of your family.

599
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 6: I do think that's a little bit of a luck

600
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 6: of our family because my mom's birthday is Halloween.

601
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

602
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 6: She's always been a little witchy and has had premonitions

603
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: in her life, and then so have I had like

604
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: premonition ay dejavoos, and we're always have been open to

605
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 6: these things. So I think for a long time they

606
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 6: either found us or followed us because we just are

607
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: witchy and at that time goth.

608
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: Mm a full goth family.

609
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: Well, me and my brother were. My sister was right

610
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: a girl punk cool.

611
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so tell me. Can you tell me any

612
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: premonition stories?

613
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: They're all, Well, my mom has the best ones, which

614
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 6: is before she knew she was pregnant, she had a

615
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 6: dream that she gave birth to a pink blanket and

616
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: then took a test and found out that she was

617
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 6: pregnant with my eldest sister, and then she like two

618
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 6: years later, had a dream that she gave birth to

619
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 6: a blue blanket and took a test and found out

620
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: that she was pregnant for my brother.

621
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Now that's how you do a gender revealed party. Do

622
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: you know how much that would save the forest fires

623
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: and all the shit these people are doing on TikTok?

624
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: Just have a premonition. It's cheaper, it's easier.

625
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 6: I think it's also very accepting at my mom to

626
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: not have that dream about me when I'm non binary.

627
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: She like, couldn't put a blanket color to it.

628
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's at.

629
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: Least what I like to spend. I think she just

630
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: didn't care.

631
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, so she has three children and

632
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: she didn't have a dream of about you.

633
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 6: No, but I did also have that disorder when you're

634
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 6: born with your cord around your neck. Oh so I

635
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 6: do think I was like, maybe not supposed to happen

636
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: to me anyways.

637
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, But okay, hang on a second. I was

638
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: just going back to your brother's demon dream that was

639
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: you said that it was mentioned on Oprah. What do

640
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: you mean your brother went on Oprah?

641
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: No, so this is actually a different dream or a

642
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: different thing that happened in our current home. My brother

643
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: got up to go to the bathroom. And the way

644
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 6: that our third floor is is the bathroom looks over staircase.

645
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 6: And so when he was leaving the bathroom, he looked

646
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 6: down the stairs and he says that he saw like

647
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 6: a cat sized goat creature on it on its hind

648
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 6: legs with like demony hands.

649
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of cute, I know.

650
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: And he but he says that he's still too afraid

651
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 6: to like look it up because like a week later,

652
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 6: he was watching like Sylvia Brown on Oprah or something

653
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 6: and they like mentioned this like nightmare demon that like

654
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 6: has lore and showed a picture of it or like

655
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 6: a rendering of it, and it was the thing that

656
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 6: he saw. So now he's like too freaked out about

657
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: it to like even try and show me and our

658
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 6: sister pictures of it or any thing. So I'm like,

659
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 6: I want to see what this looks like.

660
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: It sounds cute, like the size of a cat. Like,

661
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: are they're going to be a demon? At least be

662
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: like a cute demon, you know, like a little goat demon.

663
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 6: Baby, just give it some snacks and make it friends.

664
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: I know that would be a great pat Well, anything else,

665
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: I feel like you definitely have provided everything that I

666
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: love on the show.

667
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: I do have one more, I think really good story

668
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 6: that I think something might have followed us from the

669
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 6: first house to our second house, okay, because also it's

670
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: my brother, me and my brother's friend from there, and

671
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: when we moved, he was upset that he wouldn't see

672
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 6: her again. So she came to visit one day and

673
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 6: we upgraded to two twin beds instead of instead of

674
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: bunk beds, sharing in a room. And we were on

675
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: his bed next to the closet and we were playing,

676
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 6: and then the closet slid open and at like a

677
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 6: forty five degree angle. My brother is my pet monster

678
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 6: stuffed animal flung out of the closet and fell at

679
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 6: the bed.

680
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: And this is the same house where the little baby

681
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: demon go.

682
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 6: No, that's a different one, okay, So that's why I'm

683
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: less like it did something. I think something might follow us,

684
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 6: or just luck of the draw that everywhere we are

685
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 6: something happens.

686
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: So today, do you have things happening to you?

687
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 6: Not really? I mean I do get still. I always

688
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 6: got sleep prowless, but it happens a lot less now,

689
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 6: and I also have a lot less intuitive things happen now.

690
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 6: But I think, like now that I'm nearing forty, I

691
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 6: think like walls have been put up. Mmmm. I want

692
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 6: to open up and see if I can get things back.

693
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 6: But every once in a while, I get like a

694
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 6: premonition deja vu, and it's too intense for it to

695
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 6: not be something. But it's also something really stupid, Like

696
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 6: I remember working this day job and turning around and

697
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 6: seeing my co worker, but it's like I would never

698
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: have seen her before. I never knew it. I wanted

699
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: that I was going to work that job.

700
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: Or something like that. Yeah, that's how it always is

701
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: for my Ami. I was like, really, this is what

702
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I get, like this blip of like something that doesn't matter, Like.

703
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 6: Two are not useful to be like I know the

704
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 6: future now right?

705
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: Well, Brad, this was lovely. Thank you so much for

706
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: taking the time.

707
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: Thank you. I'm like, I mean, I'm so excited to

708
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 6: share my stories with you. I love the pod.

709
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: Thank you.

710
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: But these are great watching the YouTube?

711
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: Oh please, do I've been ghosted too? Hello Jennifer in

712
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: the Lone Star.

713
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: State, Hey rise, I'm still happy.

714
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Hi wait is it the Lone Stars? Stay? Yeah, it's

715
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: the Lone Stars State Texas. Well, Jennifer, I was reading

716
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: that you live in a current haunted house.

717
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I do the story.

718
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: What's up with that?

719
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: Well, I okay, the house has not even been here

720
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 4: for that long. It was we moved here in ninety eight,

721
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: like put it on this property, and the house you

722
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: lived in before was haunted, and like this is a

723
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: new house. I feel like our family maybe is just

724
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: haunted or ghost just come in and out. Like I

725
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: don't feel like we have the same ghosts every single day,

726
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: But I don't know, there's always weird stuff going on.

727
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Like what give me an example, Like one.

728
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: One time I got up to go to the bathroom

729
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: or got up to get something to eat in the

730
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: middle of the night, came back to my room and

731
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: in the hallway there was a tall woman and she

732
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 4: would like a ghost like you typically he like see

733
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: think about, like glowy white. And she she looked like

734
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: the like the girl from the Ring kind of with

735
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: her shir It was scary.

736
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: But but what do you mean, Like she had hair

737
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: over her face.

738
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: Kind of like it was a you could see her

739
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: face a little bit. But but I looked at her,

740
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: and the thing is because I've seen ghosts a lot,

741
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 4: like since I was a kid, and instantly you're scared,

742
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: because that's just the normal human reaction. But then you

743
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: feel their energy and it's usually peace and calm and fine,

744
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: and then you're instantly not scared anymore. It's hard to

745
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: describe if you've never had it, I think, but so

746
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: you say, usually, yeah, I will always for me, I've

747
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 4: never experienced something that I that was bad.

748
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm good for you. That's pretty lucky.

749
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've experienced stuff that I couldn't see

750
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: that I felt was bad. But when I've actually seen

751
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: something like an apparition, it's always been good. If it

752
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: was negative, it's always in the shadows, and I don't know,

753
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: I don't see it, so so I no, no, but

754
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 4: this ghost I looked at it. And then the weird

755
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: thing is then I just woke up in my bed

756
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: the next morning and I have no recollection of did

757
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 4: I walk through her to get to my room, did

758
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: she disappear? Did she take me on an adventure? I

759
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: don't know what happened that night. It was so weird.

760
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: WHOA. So the last thing you remember was seeing her.

761
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: Yes, seeing her, and I'm looking into her eyes, which

762
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: were kind of dark whole sort of I don't know

763
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: it was. It reminded me of you ever heard of

764
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: the children with the black eyes? Have you heard her?

765
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

766
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me of that, but she didn't

767
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: feel evil.

768
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Now, okay, this is just a wild I like to

769
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: get a little weird over here. What if it was

770
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: like an alien abduction?

771
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: Maybe that would be cool.

772
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: Big eyes, Yeah, lots of time. That sounds almost like

773
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: an alien abduction.

774
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 4: That would be cool. I've never thought of a lot like that.

775
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: I never think of long haired aliens, but why not?

776
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

777
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I don't see one on I mean, yeah,

778
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: there's all kinds of aliens anyway, So why not long?

779
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Is that the only it's a big galaxy, you know,

780
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: that could be a planet with long haired aliens? Yes,

781
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: So okay, have you seen this woman ever again?

782
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 4: No? Never saw again?

783
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: Alien alien?

784
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, now I'm gonna I'm gonna categorize myself into

785
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: something else now alien survivor.

786
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: So what's the story with this current place you're living in?

787
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: What's been going on?

788
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: Okay? Well, this is the crazy his stories. I said,

789
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: I've seen ghosts, I've had things happen since I was little,

790
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: Like my great grandma was in my bedroom once after

791
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: she passed away, things like that. But this is the

792
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 4: craziest thing I think that's ever.

793
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 6: Happened to me.

794
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: Okay, it was about a year ago, and things started

795
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: happening in my bedroom. Like things start like my my

796
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: TV remote would be in a different place, like on

797
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: the bed when I got up, or like my vape

798
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: would just be like on the dresser and not on

799
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: the bed. But like easily explainable things because I just

800
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: am kind of flaky sometimes and I don't remember where

801
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: I sat. Stuff so very dismissible. Then it got more intense.

802
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: I was eating a bowl of ice cream. I set

803
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: the bowl on my bedside table, went to the bathroom

804
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: and came back. Bowl and spoon were just sitting on

805
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: the floor. I was like, okay, that's weird, like not

806
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: where it fell, you know, it was sitting right there.

807
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: Was there still ice cream left you? Or you were done?

808
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: I was done?

809
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: Okay. I forgot that people use bowls for ice cream

810
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: because I just eat it right out of the things.

811
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 4: And then one night I got up to go to

812
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: the bathroom, and when I came back, my laundry hamper

813
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: was in the middle of my doorway, just blocking it,

814
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: and it was like something's trying to get my attention.

815
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: And it didn't feel scary. It felt like childish, kind

816
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 4: of like playful, like somethings just trying to get your attention.

817
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: But I don't know what they're trying to say. What

818
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: do they want me to pay attention to? Was it

819
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 4: a little yes? Right, do your laundry? And so I

820
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: just kind of wrote it off. I was like, well,

821
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: it's just one of the cooky things that happens to me.

822
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: Like I just have weird stuff happened, I have interesting stories. Well,

823
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: then my daughter, who was nine at the time, she

824
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: started getting terrified. She would in the middle of the night,

825
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: she would come to my room want to sleep with me.

826
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: She said that there was a dark shadow figure with

827
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: long hands and long fingers standing at the edge of

828
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: her bed every night, scaring her, and that she felt

829
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 4: him watching her all the time, even during the day

830
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: with the light on. If I was in there with her,

831
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: She's like, no, he's always watching me. So, being a

832
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: good mom and slightly slightly wo wo, I did a

833
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: whole cleansing thing, like did sage and palatoe and oil.

834
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: Got put some crystals in there, and you know, did

835
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: a good cleansing for her room, and everything felt good,

836
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 4: and I came to my bedroom and her rooms at

837
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 4: the end of the hall. I came to my bedroom

838
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: and I was facing facing my opposite wall, when all

839
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I could feel a And this is weird.

840
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: I've never experienced this before and never have since. But

841
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: in my mind's eye, I saw someone standing in my doorway,

842
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: which would be to my back, and it was a

843
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: a figure like six two six ' three, dressed all

844
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: in black, a black trench coat, black like fedora hat.

845
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 4: His face was it looked like remember the time, I

846
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 4: were thinking dried corn husks, you know what that looks like? Okay,

847
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 4: but but later it's like, no, kind of like Freddy

848
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: Krueger face like that. His eyes look black, I think,

849
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: but I couldn't see. And as I saw him, I

850
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: instantly had all of these memories flood back that I

851
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 4: had completely repressed from when I was a child, and

852
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: that man used to stand by my bed at night,

853
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: I had, and I had totally forgotten about that, And

854
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: so as I looked at him, I just said out loud.

855
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 4: I said, you can't scare me anymore. And he smirked

856
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: like he had a big mouth, big smirk, and then

857
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: our back door slam shut so loud, like so so loud,

858
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: but it slam shut twice. So I don't know. I

859
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 4: don't know what that means. I don't know if he

860
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: slamed shut. And he left, but then he was like,

861
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 4: I'm coming back.

862
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I forgot something.

863
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, But as soon as he left. The weirdest thing

864
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: is that ceiling of the of the stuff when stuff

865
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: was moving in my room, that childish familiar feeling. I

866
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: got that and I kind of missed him all of

867
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: a sudden, and I and that's weird. And I did

868
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: research and I realized that's a phenomenon known as the

869
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 4: hat Man. And I've done a lot of research on

870
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: that since then. Most people see the hat man like

871
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: in sleep paralysis. They see him at night. Very few

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Speaker 4: people see him in the daytime, but there are stories

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Speaker 4: of that. A lot of them say he's evil, that

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Speaker 4: he comes when something like a like a foreboding. He's

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Speaker 4: telling people that you know, he's gonna say that he

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Speaker 4: comes before something bad happens. But nothing bad ever did happen?

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Speaker 4: And when I was a kid, I was scared, but

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Speaker 4: after a while I wasn't. I don't know because I

879
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: just got used to it or what I feel like

880
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Speaker 4: he just watches, he just watches.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But my daughter never describes seeing a hat man like

883
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Speaker 4: her is her goes is different.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a different one.

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00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and everything cleared up in her room for

886
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 4: a little while, for a little while, it came back,

887
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: did another cleansing. It just is this endless cycle. But

888
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Speaker 4: but the hat man has not returned since.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so the hat man, same one from childhood,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't aged, he's the same. You still recognized him,

891
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: he remembered you. Yeah, that is so creepy. And then

892
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Speaker 1: so what's this? Where is your daughter's situation at right now?

893
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it currently appearing or what it?

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Speaker 4: We just did another cleansing last week. It seems like

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00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 4: it'll go away for it stays gone. Few were in

896
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: fewer days, if that makes sense. It's like the cleansing

897
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: is less and less effective. I'm gonna have to do

898
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Speaker 4: something else. I don't know what, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna have to find the professional to come in and

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Speaker 4: figure this out, because she wants to sleep with me

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: every night, and she is a giant child. It's like

902
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: having a full grown adults sleep next to me, but

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00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: they don't want her to be scared. You know that's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't notice anything. You know, everything has

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Speaker 4: been toy quiet in my room.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good. Yeah, this is so scary to me. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: do you have any other stories you want to share?

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Speaker 4: Well? I do have one story, and this could be

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Speaker 4: why my daughter's bedroom is like does attract spirits? Just

911
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: a short little one I I had. I had gone

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Speaker 4: through some stuff. I was like really emotionally mentally in

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Speaker 4: a very bad place, really depressed, had quit my professional

914
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Speaker 4: little job, moved back home, and so we lived with

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Speaker 4: my parents. And I was like, I don't even believe

916
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Speaker 4: in God anymore. I'll believe in spirits. I don't believe

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Speaker 4: in any of that stuff, Like that's not even real,

918
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: you know. I was just really dark, dark place. I

919
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Speaker 4: was sitting on my back porch smoking a cigarette. And

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Speaker 4: we live on like sixty acres in the middle of

921
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Speaker 4: a field, and this time there's corn growing. So you

922
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: couldn't see you, just there's like children of the corn

923
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: out there. But it never scared me. And all of

924
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 4: a sudden, I couldn't hear anything, I couldn't feel anything,

925
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: but I just you know that feeling you get in

926
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Speaker 4: your heart when it's just adrenaline, when you were so scared,

927
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Speaker 4: like so scared, like when you're going up a like

928
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Speaker 4: a what am I saying, like a ride or something.

929
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Speaker 4: But all of a sudden, I was just terrified and

930
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: I didn't know why, but I ran into my house

931
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: to get away from whatever it was. My daughter was

932
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Speaker 4: asleep in my room, so I went into her room,

933
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Speaker 4: so I was like, that was weird, that was crazy.

934
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. I'm just gonna hang

935
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Speaker 4: out in here because I'm not ready to go to bed.

936
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Speaker 4: And then a few minutes later, there was a knocking

937
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: on the door, just to like bang bang bang, like

938
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: someone wanted in, and I flew like, apparently you're not

939
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: supposed to do this, but I flung the door open

940
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: and I said, oh fuck, no, this is not happening,

941
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Speaker 4: and I went to my room terrified. That was like, okay, okay,

942
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Speaker 4: I believe, I believe, or you don't have to come

943
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 4: banging down my door to make me like, you know,

944
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: spiritual again. But ever since then is when her room

945
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 4: has been haunted, Like her room especially has had weird

946
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 4: stuff going on in it, caird, I know.

947
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Speaker 1: Was this the same door that the hat man left

948
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: out of?

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: No, No, different door. It's across the hallway though.

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01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's very scary.

951
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 6: I know.

952
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: I think we need we need like a psychic to

953
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: come out here and talk to all the spirits and

954
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: figure out what's going on.

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it's it's interesting how that how it

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: worked for you. You said, I'm not scared of you anymore,

957
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: and it left. I wonder if that would work in

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: your daughter's room.

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 4: I've told her to yell and to tell it like,

960
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of you, go away, And she said,

961
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 4: then it just gets bigger. Yeah, more terrifying than anything

962
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 4: I've ever experienced.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer, are you like? Are you in our Facebook group?

964
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: I am okay. If anyone listening to this has any

965
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: advice for Jennifer, hit up Jennifer in the Facebook group.

966
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: Please ghost it by Roz Hernandez.

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Please do.

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: I would appreciate any help I could get.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, so much to Jesse, Brad and Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: If you want to be on an episode like this

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of over Twitter. I'm not sure, but I'm

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Speaker 1: still technically there anyway. I love you all, both living

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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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Speaker 1: don't haunt me.

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