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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis, at

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show is underway. Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: A lot of news, of course, the protest madness starting

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Speaker 1: on Columbia University's campus now replicated on a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of other campuses seeing it in Oh God, it's up

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Speaker 1: at Yale, It's so that's Connecticut, it's in Minnesota, It's

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Speaker 1: I can't even name all the states all over the place,

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Speaker 1: these campus protests breaking out right at the end of

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Speaker 1: the school year. Arrests have been made NYU and New York.

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Speaker 1: Arrest have been made there. So we're going to dive

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Speaker 1: into that whole situation for sure.

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Speaker 2: And yes, sir, I just want to point out something

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Speaker 2: you said yesterday, but I think it's very funny and

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Speaker 2: worth pointing out. The protesters are so upset about what's

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Speaker 2: going on that they waited until the weather was good

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Speaker 2: enough to be able to camp out in the northeast

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Speaker 2: to actually camp out on the quad.

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Speaker 1: They didn't use this in January and February. The Israeli

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Speaker 1: military escalation, invasion whatever has been going on for months. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and yet there was no occupy the Quad protest in February.

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Speaker 1: It's very funny now that it's you know, Hackey Sack

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Speaker 1: and Patchuli weather out in the quad. You know, everyone

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Speaker 1: just hanging out. They're having a good time. So we'll

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Speaker 1: discuss some of the madness here. And also, as we said,

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Speaker 1: real dedication would be University of Michigan or Minnesota or

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Speaker 1: Buffalo protesting out of the campus quad January. Then then

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Speaker 1: you're committed, like.

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Speaker 2: Right now, try to sleep outside when it's really cold.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is absolutely brutal for anybody who has

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Speaker 2: ever done it. It's just very funny that it's now

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Speaker 2: nice outdoors weather and they're suddenly like, we've got to

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Speaker 2: we've got to take.

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Speaker 1: Over the quad, We've got to sleep outdoors. And yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember I had to eat outside once long story,

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Speaker 1: during the worst of COVID madness, and it was January.

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Speaker 1: I was absolutely like I actually lost touch with my butt,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it was there anymore, that's

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Speaker 1: how cold it was. You never want to be like,

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Speaker 1: is my butt still there? That's a bad day.

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Speaker 2: I We had a camp sleepover in February for the

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Speaker 2: school that my kids go to it's a dad's son

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Speaker 2: camp out, and you could take all your boys. And

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Speaker 2: my youngest at the time was like five or six

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Speaker 2: years old, and in the middle of the night, he

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Speaker 2: just came over to me and he said, Dad, can

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Speaker 2: I please get into your sleeping bag. I am just

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Speaker 2: so unbelievably cold, you know, my little kid and youngest son,

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Speaker 2: And he just climbed in and just burrowed down underneath,

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Speaker 2: just immediately went to sleep. I couldn't move, of course,

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Speaker 2: but it is funny. It is very worth noting, and

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody else mention it. They're so committed

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Speaker 2: to the idea of anti Israel protests, but only if

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Speaker 2: it's not that cold outside, which is perfect for these people.

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Speaker 1: So we've also got We're going to dive into that

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've I've been analyzing the masking phenomenon on campus,

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Speaker 1: and it's complicated and very interesting because there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of these protesters wearing masks. See the photos, you

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Speaker 1: see the videos. Why. I know everyone thinks they know why,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually different things depending on the protesters we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. I'll get into that in a moment. This story.

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Speaker 1: Clay sent this to me. This one just infuriates me.

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Speaker 1: This American dad, father of two, is arrested returning from

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Speaker 1: his vacation in the Turks and Caicos Islands in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 1: This kind of hits home. I was just in the

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Speaker 1: Caribbean myself, and he faces a mandatory twelve year prison

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Speaker 1: sentence for having a few hunting rifle. I believe it's rifle,

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Speaker 1: it might be shotgun. On even know a hunting ammunition

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Speaker 2: Not a weapon, not a weapon, just a bag that

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Speaker 2: he had had maybe ammunition stored in before.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of rounds. It was as anyone. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you I have. And I was taught this

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Speaker 1: by a Special Forces guy. He said, first of all,

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Speaker 1: no one ever packs your gear before you go out

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Speaker 1: onto the range or off the range. But you you

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Speaker 1: never let anyone else pack when you're dealing with ammunition

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Speaker 1: stick a few rounds into this pocket because they're loose.

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Speaker 1: Loose rounds happen all the time. He said, you were

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Speaker 1: always It's almost like the airport things. If you said

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Speaker 1: the range. And it's because of situations like this, and

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Speaker 1: so anyway, it drives me insane. There is no justice

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Speaker 1: if somebody for an inadvertent mistake with no cost to

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Speaker 1: discuss that in a little bit morning, console Bloomberg Poll.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into this. I'm gonna have to calm Clay

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Speaker 1: down a little bit. It's a little early, still, Clay,

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Speaker 1: it's a little early, all right. We don't we can't

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Speaker 1: get too excited. We got to keep our composure. Trump

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Speaker 1: is absolutely trouncing Biden in all of these polls, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have We're gonna have to just look

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Speaker 1: at that reality, not get too far ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And then Supreme Court is looking at an Idaho abortion law,

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Speaker 1: federal law. And I've got some thoughts, Clay on how

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Speaker 1: they're taking this. Oh, one more thing, Walmart getting rid

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Speaker 1: of some automated checkout stations, but not because of efficiency.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss that. Walmart's already starting to phase it out.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with this. I I was like, look,

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Speaker 1: you're hearing some sanity from people out there in the

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Speaker 1: media in surprising places. And I think it's in part

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Speaker 1: because one they're worried about the they're honestly the backlash

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Speaker 1: for the Jewish community in this country in an election year,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, they probably should be right. Also, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think that they so so they recognize the politics

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Speaker 1: of those moments. But first off, this was this was

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Speaker 1: on I think a substack. I'll track down the author

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Speaker 1: in a second. Pardon me for quoting without sighting, but

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Speaker 1: I'll have to quote it. Part of the reason, say

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Speaker 1: organizers at Columbia that they're masking remains an attempt to

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Speaker 1: make a point about exposure to COVID nineteen and other

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Speaker 1: health risks, which some in the protest movement believe remains dire.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is the threat of a different kind

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Speaker 1: of exposure from being captured by facial recognition technology or

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Speaker 1: being docks by counter protesters. Clay I was saying this,

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Speaker 1: I think you can tell the difference because if you're

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Speaker 1: just a civilization hating pro terrorist loon, you go with

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Speaker 1: that you associate with hamas and this is like you know,

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Speaker 1: and you start, you walk around with that thing on,

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Speaker 1: and you do you look, you pull the whole sort

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Speaker 1: It's because they and they say it to their they're

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Speaker 2: You know, there used to be laws to not allow

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Speaker 2: masking because the idea was clearly, you're more likely to

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Speaker 2: commit a crime if your face can't be seen. Go figure,

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Speaker 2: we need to bring back this. It's a public safety issue.

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Speaker 1: In New York. For two hundred years, you were unless

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Speaker 1: it was needed for construction or an imminent work task,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to walk around with your face covered.

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Speaker 1: But I argue this during the pandemic play, so I

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Speaker 2: I think even more so, they had to be connected

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Speaker 2: But yes, it's evidence to me that these people are

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Speaker 2: look at the facts and be willing to have a

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Speaker 2: you're the candidate yourself. You should never agree with anyone

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Speaker 2: And I love those of you out there who listen

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Speaker 1: But Cray is wrong sometimes and I have to tell

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Speaker 2: So and if we needed someone, Laura Travis would be

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Speaker 2: very happy to call in and lit a litany of

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Speaker 1: imagine being a parent that is paying these people who

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Speaker 1: disconcerting news for you, mister Clay, speaking about keeping it

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Speaker 1: I got an email.

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Speaker 2: I got an email that I want to read that

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Speaker 2: a lot of them are supportive of those protesters.

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Speaker 1: These people see you. Remember you live in a red state.

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Speaker 1: I know these lunatics, the lunatic parents and the lunatic

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Speaker 1: you read that email. A second. But first I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to note that this was on MSNBC. This has

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Speaker 1: cut ten professor Scott Galloway, who you know, like he

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Speaker 1: hates Trump, He's a Democrat. He actually does say some

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Speaker 1: sensible things. He said things before. He says things about

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Speaker 1: like like spoiled bratts. They get to bang pots and

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Speaker 1: pants together and demand attention. And they're not even calling

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Speaker 1: for a cease far anymore. Notice they're calling for Palestine

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Speaker 1: to be free. What does that mean? Gods is free

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Speaker 1: and it's a horrible place. Okay, it's a horrible place.

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Speaker 1: The Palestinians have made very poor decisions.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you those girls posted on social media about

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Speaker 2: the fact that they went to the Free Palestine protest,

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Speaker 2: and they probably got favorable responses on social media, which

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Speaker 2: is again reflective of the fact that this is a

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Speaker 2: social contagion. I don't really even understand initially, I think

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Speaker 2: the idea of the college protest. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be logical here and understand what they're demanding.

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Speaker 2: I believe they were initially demanding that there be a

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Speaker 2: divestment of any assets that were connected to Israel. But

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Speaker 2: does anybody even understand how or First of all, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many assets there are that are connected

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Speaker 2: to Israel, But the idea that you're going to demand

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Speaker 2: that somebody sell anything that's connected to Israel, first of all,

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Speaker 2: it's the most impossible. But secondly, they don't even understand

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Speaker 2: what that What would that?

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Speaker 1: Do they the whole thing is preposterous. But also again

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Speaker 1: I'm a native New Yorker. NYU and Columbia have received

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Speaker 1: enormous amounts of money from Jewish American donors. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: so these campuses are caught in quite a bind because

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Speaker 1: the stuff that is being said about Jewish Americans the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people who support Israel, and that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: defining or the separating line here because there are Jewish

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Speaker 1: protesters too. We should not lose sight of that. As

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Speaker 1: I clay, this goes to why I've been telling you

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Speaker 1: I don't think the vote's going to change that much.

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Speaker 1: You said ten percent that could happen. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be eighty twenty. Though in favor of Trump,

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Speaker 1: I'd stake anything on that it might move a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There are Jewish pro Hamas protesters in America. As crazy

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Speaker 1: as that sounds to everybody, it is a reality. They

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Speaker 1: think this is a moral crusade for them as well.

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Speaker 1: It would be one thing if they had started this

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Speaker 1: moral crusade before October seventh, but after October seventh, it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to decide that you need to go on

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Speaker 1: a moral crusade to attack Israel. Because again, once twelve

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Speaker 1: hundred Jews got murdered in cold blood, it's very hard

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Speaker 1: to argue, Oh, the group that supported and put them

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Speaker 1: in power Hamas in Gaza is somehow deserving of your

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Speaker 1: commendation and support. There's also a backstory here, And as

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Speaker 1: I said, I started out my Midi studies, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not an Arab Israeli experts specifically. That's something that people

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Speaker 1: spend their whole lives on. But I started out working

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Speaker 1: at the Washington Institute for Near's Policy as an intern

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Speaker 1: for Dennis Ross, Clinton's envoy for the peace negotiations. I

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Speaker 1: worked on the book The Missing Piece, which you can

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Speaker 1: it's very boring, don't buy it. But I worked on

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Speaker 1: that book as a fact checker for a summer. And

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Speaker 1: so I started out on this issue, and so I

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Speaker 1: have some institutional memory of it, or just some on

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Speaker 1: understanding of the history and even the more recent history

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Speaker 1: Gaza was the Israelis, with tremendous internal opposition to it,

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Speaker 1: pulled out and said, fine, fine, we're gonna get rid

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Speaker 1: of all these settlements. We're going to take people, literally,

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Speaker 1: Jews kicking and screaming from some of these settlements that

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Speaker 1: are in this area of God and Gaza will belong

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Speaker 1: only to the Palestinians. And it was a very difficult

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Speaker 1: decision internally. It israelt the time because the Israelis were like,

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Speaker 1: why this should be ours? This is not, but put

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Speaker 1: that aside. They did it. They gave them greater autonomy.

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Speaker 1: They let them hold their own elections, and they elected

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Speaker 1: terror psychopaths who throw gay people off of buildings and

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Speaker 1: who engage in mass murder. And you find out there

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Speaker 1: are consequences. I don't know what else to say, is

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Speaker 1: what are the Israeli supposed to say? Now, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: give them more autonomy and freedom, let's give them more

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Speaker 1: acts of good faith. But how many people do you

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Speaker 1: think even know Clay that Gaza about the evacuation from

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Speaker 1: Gaza who are protesting here. I bet you five out

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Speaker 1: of one hundred kids in these protests even knows that

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Speaker 1: that happened. And the people who are all like jumping

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Speaker 1: on this bandwagon and talking about this as though it's

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Speaker 1: some kind of an uprising for justice, they're abject morons. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: they know nothing.

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Speaker 2: College kids are dumb and have been dumb for a

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Speaker 2: long time. If we were in college and we're pretty smart,

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Speaker 2: and our listeners, some of them are in college and

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Speaker 2: they're very smart, so let's not get crazy. But I'm

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Speaker 2: less concerned with the college kids stupidity, more concerned with

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Speaker 2: faculty Columbia and NYU faculty showing up to create a

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Speaker 2: human shield to prevent any removal of these tents from

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Speaker 2: the quad and everything.

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Speaker 1: Masks the professors. This is why I said, guys, it's

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Speaker 1: not about fear of employment. Their tenured professors at these schools.

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Speaker 1: They're wearing masks because of COVID and because of solidarity

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Speaker 1: with the communist visual of the mask.

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Speaker 2: They're in their forties, fifties, and sixties. They're far too

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Speaker 2: old to be this dumb. And that is why I

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Speaker 2: say they're in a cult, and they aren't willing to

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Speaker 2: recognize the fact that they're in a cult. They think

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Speaker 2: that they are the smart ones.

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Speaker 1: We also have another Oh, they definitely think that they

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Speaker 1: have another Man on the Street interview where a journalist

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Speaker 1: goes up and asks them, will you just condemn like

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Speaker 1: the murder of Jews as a matter of principle, you

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Speaker 1: condemn the October seventh attacks. We will play some of

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Speaker 1: that audio for you. What these are professors not students?

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Speaker 1: coming to. Communists are coming in. They're swarming all over campuses,

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Speaker 1: more of them actually just in the last hour. Harvard,

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Speaker 1: which you always know if somebody went to Harvard, and

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Speaker 1: a lot more than that when they tell you that

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Speaker 1: they went to they went to college in Boston, like, well,

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Speaker 1: there's dozens of colleges in Boston, which which one? You know,

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Speaker 1: if you went to be You or or Emerson or

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Speaker 1: you say that's where you went to school. But if

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Speaker 1: you went to Harvard. You have to make people ask

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Speaker 1: the question. I have to act like you don't want

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Speaker 1: to tell people like where did you go to school?

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Speaker 1: The little university in Cambridge, you know, not next to

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Speaker 1: the Charles River. Yeah, anyway, Harvard's campus is now the

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Speaker 1: site of another one of these protests, another one of

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Speaker 1: these Palestinian pro Hamas occupy. They got the oh I

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Speaker 1: got the photos here. They got the tents out Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: is out there. Yeah, it's like an ad for an

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Speaker 1: outdoor camping store or something. They got a tents everywhere,

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Speaker 1: probably some little cook stoves stuff like that. They're ready

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Speaker 1: to go. And as we've said, it is lovely in

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Speaker 1: the Harvard Quad this time of year. So it's not

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Speaker 1: that much of a hardship. You know, you get to

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Speaker 1: you get the live stream, you fight against the man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah uh, you know, smoke a little weed, call the

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Speaker 1: cops pigs. I mean a lot of this stuff going

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Speaker 1: on there. But then we get a little sad because

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Speaker 1: We go down to Texas and University of Texas at

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Speaker 1: Austin Clay they've got one underway right now as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we've got more of these protests breaking out. I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to see a whole lot more of them.

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Speaker 1: It's an election year. These kids are all subject to

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Speaker 1: this contagion. Their professors have been filling their brains with

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Speaker 1: nonsense for years. But there is a professor I wanted

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Speaker 1: you to hear from. Actually, this is really interesting professor

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Speaker 1: John mccorter, who I believe is a Columbia University professor

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Speaker 1: but also makes the rounds on the podcast Circuit Rights

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Speaker 1: for the Atlantic, And he is an intellectual. He's a

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Speaker 1: Black American author who questions the Dei narrative and wokeness

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And so he is brilliant, but

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Speaker 1: not as celebrated by the left as he would be

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Speaker 1: if say he was like the serial plagiarist president of

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Speaker 1: Harvard or something, right, because you know, he's breaking with

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Speaker 1: the narrative. But here he is saying something that it

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Speaker 1: is going to get some people's attention. He is making

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Speaker 1: the claim that this is what Jewish students on campus

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Speaker 1: are being subjected to, provably demonstrably subjected to. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Clay is worse than anything black students have faced on

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Speaker 1: college campuses in America in fifty years. Play this clip.

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Speaker 4: The generation of Jewish students are going to be in

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Speaker 4: printed by the fact that they feel persecuted, and they

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Speaker 4: can point to episodes of stark resistance, physical violence, near

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Speaker 4: physical violence, naked slurs hollered at them by people in

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Speaker 4: real time.

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Speaker 1: All of that on campuses is becoming regular.

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Speaker 5: And there's a whole contingent of supposedly educated people telling

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Speaker 5: them to shut up. Whereas, let's face it, racism on

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Speaker 5: college campuses exists. But frankly, I can confidently say essentially

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Speaker 5: no black student or fifty years has encountered anything that stark.

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Speaker 5: You have to work to find the quote unquote microaggressions,

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Speaker 5: et cetera. And yet anytime the black person claims student

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Speaker 5: claims racism, then we have to pretend the college campuses

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Speaker 5: are op eds of bigotry. That's not fair. And Jewish

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Speaker 5: students are watching this and they're disgusted, and I would

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Speaker 5: have to say, I would that's explicable. I understand they're discussed,

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Speaker 5: well said.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really well said.

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Speaker 2: And again, this is a really important time, I think

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Speaker 2: to contemplate what standards for speech are acceptable and unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: And one reason why, basically since the Civil Rights era

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Speaker 2: you would not have had overt racism against black students

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Speaker 2: on campus is because of the societal pressure. We've talked

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Speaker 2: about on this show before. If you were a kid

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Speaker 2: and you were caught on video using a racial slur

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Speaker 2: on any college campus in America, a white kid, if

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Speaker 2: you're a black kid and you rap along to a song.

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Speaker 2: Nobody does anything. But if you're a white kid, even

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Speaker 2: potentially if you're wrapping along to some popular song today,

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Speaker 2: you could be expelled. You could lose your job, your

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Speaker 2: basic entire future could vanish overnight because of one word

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Speaker 2: that you uttered on a video. There are major societal

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Speaker 2: consequences for saying anything that could even be perceived as racist.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about hurling racial slurs at someone buck,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about rapping along to a Kanye West song

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Speaker 2: or some other song that is popular at this point

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Speaker 2: in time. That's how protective the speech is. When it

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Speaker 2: comes to black students, gay students, trans students, you'd be

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Speaker 2: kicked out immediately chanting death to Israel. If you chanted

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Speaker 2: death to black people or death to gay people, your

646
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Speaker 2: entire life is basically over on any of these campuses.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I would say, and this is it

648
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: sounds almost crazy as you say it, but then you

649
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: know it's all so true as it is said. If

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Speaker 1: you had the choice in America today of being somebody

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Speaker 1: who at sixteen was caught on video saying the racial

652
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Speaker 1: slur that you know, you're never allowed to send her

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Speaker 1: any context. Even if you're like reading from a manuscript

654
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Speaker 1: or a court record, right, never allowed to say it

655
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Speaker 1: under any context. By the way, I disagree with that rule. Yes,

656
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Speaker 1: we abide bias because this is the rule. Ablide by

657
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Speaker 1: it because this is the rule. I disagree with that rule.

658
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Speaker 1: Meaning the intent of a word always matters. Calling someone

659
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Speaker 1: a slur is wrong and should be punished. A word

660
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Speaker 1: in any context being unable to be said by some

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Speaker 1: people is absurd. Actually, And by the way, Christopher Hitchins

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Speaker 1: completely for those of you remember Christopher Hitchins, completely agreed

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Speaker 1: with me on this. He was like, this is a

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Speaker 1: we should never have this thing of You can never

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Speaker 1: say the word to the point clay where people can't

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Speaker 1: in a court transcript say it. Okay, but let me

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Speaker 1: give you an example.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my last book twenty seventeen, I quoted

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Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 1: No person ever called me a blank.

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Speaker 2: Right, we can't say lots of words to be fair

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Speaker 2: on this radio program, like we can't curse, like all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things. The publisher called me, there's not very

674
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Speaker 2: many curse words in my book, but they're all there.

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Speaker 2: And they said, hey, we don't think you can use

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Speaker 2: the N word in this book because you're a white guy.

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, it's a quote from Muhammad Ali,

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Speaker 2: and they said, we're advising you not to use the

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Speaker 2: word quoting him.

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Speaker 1: This is una, this is wrong.

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Speaker 2: We're not goingng We're not going to block out words

682
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Speaker 2: like it's important. The context in which he is speaking matters.

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Speaker 2: So just to your example, this was only a few

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Speaker 2: years ago. The publisher contacted me and said, you can't

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Speaker 2: quote what what Muhammad Ali said because you're a white guy.

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Speaker 2: But you can also even just take it into this

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Speaker 2: this whole other direction for a second. I remember, I

688
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Speaker 2: think it was professor Christakis was his name, and he

689
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Speaker 2: there was they made the rounds. There was this intellectual

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Speaker 2: dark web for a while, they called it of different

691
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Speaker 2: professors on campus, and I think some of them were,

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Speaker 2: you know, in earnest. I think some of that was

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Speaker 2: just branding and marketing for people who were saying stuff

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Speaker 2: that conservatives have been saying for as long as we've

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Speaker 2: been conservatives in my case, like you know, forty two years.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, you know, it wasn't like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: these people came up with these new ideas, but some

698
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Speaker 1: of them were saying it on campus and there were

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Speaker 1: some conversion situation, so I get it, okay, but remember

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Speaker 1: Clay Christakis at Yale, it was over costumes for children

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Speaker 1: at Halloween. Yeah, and and the Yale student body and

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Speaker 1: the Yale administration. Yale's got these protests going on everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the same entity they upheld the

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Speaker 1: standard that a like six year old dressing up as

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Speaker 1: a Native American Pocahontas, for example, a six year old

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Speaker 1: girl dresses as Pocahontas, she's a white girl. That that

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Speaker 1: is triggering and makes people feel unsafe. Therefore, Yale, the

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Speaker 1: university sent out guidance to please not don't have your

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Speaker 1: kids for professors. Really, this was don't have your kids

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Speaker 1: dress as anything that could be cultural appropriation for Halloween.

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Speaker 1: That's how Yale responds on that issue. And then the

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Speaker 1: Yale administrators and Yale professors are standing, you know, in

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Speaker 1: lockstep in many cases, with kids who are running around

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Speaker 1: saying death to Israel. Get the Jews out of here.

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Speaker 1: They're committing a genocide. They you know, control you as

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Speaker 1: foreign policy and push us into this and that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that they're saying is so aggressively bigoted and biased.

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Speaker 1: But they're making an exception, because that's when that's what

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Speaker 1: John mccorter's saying. He's like, the rules are joke, friends,

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Speaker 1: the rules are a joke.

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Speaker 2: Think about how in that context for Halloween, people are

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Speaker 2: angry or at a six year old for dressing up

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Speaker 2: cowboy and Indian than they are at a grown adult for.

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Speaker 1: Pretending that he's a woman.

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Speaker 2: Like you're heroic if you dress if you're a man

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Speaker 2: and you pretend to be a woman, in the mind,

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Speaker 2: you're stunning and brave.

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Speaker 1: Even though you look like a dude with long hair

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Speaker 1: and too much makeup on. I mean yes, And if.

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Speaker 2: If you're six and you dress up as cowboys and

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Speaker 2: Indians or some other similar esque costume, it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: But just also on on on the rules that we

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Speaker 1: often live by. If you were saying, is it better

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Speaker 1: and you could do this with the whole range of things,

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Speaker 1: better to be caught on video saying the word that

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Speaker 1: we're never allowed to say at sixteen, or in terms

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Speaker 1: of your employment prospects, be accused of manslaughter killing someone

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Speaker 1: outside of a bar, you know, in a fight, it's

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Speaker 1: far better for your employment prospects to be to be

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Speaker 1: charged with manslaughter I think if you're convicted, maybe that's

741
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Speaker 1: probably because that's a fine. Here's an easy one. Better.

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Speaker 1: You better be a reputation to be charged with manslaughter

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Speaker 1: at sixteen than to be said, you know, to say

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Speaker 1: that word on video. That's the contrary.

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Speaker 2: If you're a college freshman, it would be better for

746
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Speaker 2: you to get multiple DUI's then be caught on video

747
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: using a racial slur. Well, no, no question, that's not

748
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Speaker 2: that's but think about how yes it is multiple duiy's.

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Speaker 2: You could have killed somebody you got behind the wheel,

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Speaker 2: not once, but twice driving drunk. People will be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't have done it, but we'll still

752
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: hire you video using a racial slur. Your life is

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Speaker 2: basically over.

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Speaker 1: We have racial power dynamics that are very very much

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Speaker 1: at play in this country, just not the ones that

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Speaker 1: the media pretends exist. And that's what the Jewish students

757
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: on campus are learning are finding out. Oh there's race

758
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: politics in America, it's just not what the media and

759
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: the professori professoriat on campus as it is. You have

760
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Speaker 1: been oppressed for thousands of years if you are Jewish,

761
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: documented without question historically, you have just six months ago

762
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: had the biggest massacre of Jews occur since the Holocaust.

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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want about a Jewish person

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Speaker 1: on any campus right now with no consequences. And I

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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people out there that

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Speaker 1: this has been eye opening. I don't think you and

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Speaker 1: I are stunned by it. I think we would have

768
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: seen this coming, oh yeah. But I think a lot

769
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Speaker 1: of people out there on the left who may be

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Speaker 1: traditionally Jewish Democrat voters, it's been very eye opening and

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Speaker 1: enlightening for them. I mean even during the BLM era,

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Speaker 1: you would have seen leftists. Again, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of conservative Jews listening to us right now. I was

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Speaker 1: at a passover with my conservative Jewish friends and neighbors

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00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: a couple of nights ago. They already knew this, right,

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Speaker 1: they know this reality. But there's this, you know, the

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Speaker 1: forty no more than that fifty or sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: Democrat voting Jews in this country, there's a contingent of

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Speaker 1: them who are really hard left, and you know they go,

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Speaker 1: they would have gone to say BLM protests, and still

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Speaker 1: alongside some of these some of these you know BLM organizers,

782
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Speaker 1: And I just want to tell them the bom. Some

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Speaker 1: of those folks are incredibly anti Semitic. They hate you,

784
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: they hate you. Yes, yes, I know that. The conservative

785
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Jews know that, But some of the left wing Jews

786
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: think that, oh no, it's all we're all the oppressed people. No, no, no,

787
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Speaker 1: there's a hierarchy of oppression and Jews are white as

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Speaker 1: far as the rest of the left is concerned. Jews

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Speaker 1: can argue that as much as they want, and some

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Speaker 1: of them are and we've said here israelis represent you know,

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00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: a whole range of ethnicity, skin, colors, everything. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, the American left thinks that

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Speaker 1: Jews are white and white people are oppressors. And that's

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Speaker 1: how it goes.

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Speaker 2: You're the colonizer, you're the oppressor. Even when you're the victim,

796
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Speaker 2: you are the aggressor. That is the reality of how

797
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: identity politics requires you to be seen. Look, Mother's Day

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Speaker 2: is coming up soon, and a lot of you out there.

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Speaker 2: If you got your own mom, your grandma, everybody out there,

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Speaker 2: what do you give someone for Mother's Day?

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Speaker 1: After a few years, it gets tough.

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Speaker 2: Jory clothing, nice pictures, over time you sit around, you're like, man,

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Speaker 2: it's Mother's Day again, and you also have anniversaries, and

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Speaker 2: you got Christmas, and you got how about Legacy Box.

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Speaker 2: How about giving your wife, your mom, your grandma something

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Speaker 2: they will have for decades to come. It's a preservation

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Speaker 2: Legacy Box dot com slash clay.

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Speaker 1: Wow. We got minute by minute updates here on these

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Speaker 1: campus protests going on. As we told you up at Harvard,

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Speaker 1: they now have their own pro pro terrorist protests out

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Speaker 1: on the quad and we're a little sad ut Austin.

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Speaker 1: I got to say if I were people asked me

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Speaker 1: these days, And there's actually an article about this to

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Speaker 1: Clay don't remember where it was about how more and

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Speaker 1: more people are aeshewing the You know, look, the oldest

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Speaker 1: universities in the country, for the most part, are clustered

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Speaker 1: in the northeastern United States, the coastal northeastern United States.

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Speaker 1: It's where the Ivy League is a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: fancy schools, and there used to be this idea, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you get into one of them, your life will be easy.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I know a lot of losers

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Speaker 1: who went to Harvard. I do. It's true. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of very unimpressive people, a

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Speaker 1: lot of schmo's who go to Ivy League school and

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Speaker 1: not not just the ones who go to Cornell because

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00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: everyone makes fun of them anyway, because they're they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're also an Ivy school. I'm gonna get so many

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Speaker 1: Aggri Cordell emails over that one.

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Speaker 2: But well, that's the great Andy Bernard on the Office bit, right.

842
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: That was why it was so great.

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00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: It's because people are always because the other Ivy League

844
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: schools are always like, yeah, I guess Cornell's Ivy League.

845
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: It's a great school. I'm kidding, but.

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00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: Lots of people feel like they've made it when they

847
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: go to an elite school and then you.

848
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Come out and you're like, yeah, nobody really cares. Nobody cares. Nobody. No,

849
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: it's true, nobody, especially for undergrad nobody cares. But there's

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00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: this whole movement toward people looking at a lot of

851
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: schools in there in the Red States that everyone's moving

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00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: to because there are great schools where you have better weather,

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00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: better campuses, better overall experience. And I know Austin is

854
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: very very blue, so please the Texans always like Austin

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Speaker 1: doesn't count. I'm like, no, no, I get it. But it's

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Speaker 1: still a beautiful campus. It's a great school. I've spent

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Speaker 1: a few I've walked around on the campus. There are

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Speaker 1: a few times. But they they had a protest that

859
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Speaker 1: started like an hour or two ago, and they have

860
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Speaker 1: am I right, you're seeing this? Have they already just

861
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: shared video? National Guard in Austin. They just rolled right.

862
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Speaker 2: They were trying to take over the quad at the

863
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: University of Texas as they have just taken over the

864
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: quad at Harvard is spreading all over the northeast in particular,

865
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Speaker 2: also in the West coast, and there's been some talk

866
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Speaker 2: my school where I went, Vanderbilt, Uh, there have been

867
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Speaker 2: a few southern red states. They were trying to take

868
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Speaker 2: over the quad at the University of Texas and they

869
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Speaker 2: just sent in the full cavalry and just wiped out

870
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Speaker 2: the whole protests. They have arrested everybody, They have cleared

871
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: the entire they have cleared the entire quad. If you've

872
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: been frustrated at the response that you have seen at

873
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Speaker 2: many of these universities, Greg Abbott and the State of

874
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Speaker 2: Texas said, yeah, we ain't playing and this. A lot

875
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Speaker 2: of these schools are not going to have it happen anyway.

876
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Speaker 2: Try this at Texas A and M. You got no

877
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Speaker 2: hope of the students will just roll out and be like,

878
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: screw you guys, Like we're tearing down your campus squad.

879
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: Protest. You should be able to protest.

880
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: I want to be clear, you don't have the right

881
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Speaker 2: to put tints on the quad and take over public

882
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: property for your protest. This should have never been allowed

883
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Speaker 2: to happen anywhere. But Texas is saying this ain't happening.

884
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Speaker 2: This is what I think Ron DeSantis would do. This

885
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: is what I think Governor camp down in Georgia will do.

886
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: This is what I believe Bill Lee and Tennessee Kevin

887
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: Stitton Oklahoma. I could run through a lot of red

888
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: state governors that are just going to say now we're

889
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: not playing this game. And I give credit to Texas.

890
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: They may have to do it multiple times, because these

891
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: kids may get arrested, and they may get let right

892
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Speaker 2: back out on the streets, and they may come right back.

893
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: And it's important to mention. I do think this is

894
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Speaker 2: important to the extent we haven't mentioned at Buck. A

895
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Speaker 2: lot of these people I don't think are even enrolled

896
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Speaker 2: at the university. They are professional agitators who are showing

897
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Speaker 2: up and trying to get into a tent on campus,

898
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Speaker 2: and they're not even enrolled at the university. They're just

899
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: professional protesters, same people who got all fired up about BLM.

900
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Speaker 2: Remember how they would pull in with trucks and suddenly

901
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: there's all this material that gets distributed, all these signs,

902
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: all these tents aren't suddenly showing up by accident. This

903
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Speaker 2: is an organized attempt, probably funded by Middle Eastern interest.

904
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Speaker 2: If you are China, if you want me to really

905
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Speaker 2: kind of dive into where this is coming from.

906
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Speaker 1: But Texas saying we're not doing this. You know, we

907
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Speaker 1: had mentioned the first hour that there are I don't

908
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Speaker 1: know if we call them unlikely heroes, but some unlikely

909
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: heroic moments that are coming out of this whole situation too.

910
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: And we had that caller last hour who said, I

911
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, give it to me straight. I'm aware,

912
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Clay and I are aware that John Fetterman may be

913
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: playing some for each here by making him seem like

914
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: he's reasonable on this because there's really only two. There's

915
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: crazy and normal on this issue, right, there's not a

916
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: lot of middle. Like, if you think anything about what

917
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Speaker 1: Hamas did on October seventh wasn't as heinous as anything

918
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: could ever be, you know, you're crazy. So there's crazy

919
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: and there's normal on this issue. And Fetterman is going

920
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: hard in the direction of normal on a regular basis

921
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: here on this issue. Here he is just straight up

922
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: chewing out some of these anti Semitic pro Hamas protestors.

923
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: This is seventeen player.

924
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Speaker 6: It's completely reasonable to want to cease fire or to

925
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Speaker 6: have a different view on that. Absolutely that's a democracy,

926
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Speaker 6: but it is not appropriate or illegal or it's helpful

927
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Speaker 6: to advance your argument. If you show up in a Starbucks,

928
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 6: I mean a Starbucks with a bullhorn and start yelling

929
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 6: at people, and that doesn't make you noble. It just

930
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 6: makes you. I'm not suggesting that you have to agree

931
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Speaker 6: with our v my view, but it's just saying it

932
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Speaker 6: doesn't really allow you to disrupt lives and to inflict

933
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 6: those kinds of of damages on people that are just

934
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 6: trying to get on with their lives.

935
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is the critical distinction. It's essentially what

936
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Speaker 1: you were saying in essence a moment ago, which is

937
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Speaker 1: if people wanted to gather peaceably with their with their

938
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: dumb placards. They do this all the time. I remember College,

939
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: the movie PCU, as in Politically Correct University. PCU is

940
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: brilliant on this issue. Although I don't think PCU is

941
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: politically correct enough to be made anymore. I don't think

942
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: you could get away with making that movie now. But

943
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing. At the time, it was,

944
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little bit on the edgy side.

945
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: It's a fun watch, I will tell you, but it's

946
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: just about these these campus activists, whether it's the vegans sorry, uh,

947
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: the you know sort of the black student group, the uh,

948
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: all these different sort of pro I can't remember them now,

949
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: all these different protest entities that are on campus that

950
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: are upset about the feminists Ovia feminists in the nineties.

951
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: A lot of fun with that one, all this stuff.

952
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to make your point, you

953
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: can make your point. That's not what these people are doing.

954
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: And when you go into a Starbucks and shout at

955
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: people with a bullhorn, or even shout at Alec Baldon,

956
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: as much of a jerk as that guy is, you're

957
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: the jerk. You are the jerk when you're doing that.

958
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: And even Fetterman knows it. So golf clap for John Fetterman.

959
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: You mentioned all that, Buck, and it took me back

960
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: in time. You can still look this up. Do you

961
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: know what The first thing that I ever had published

962
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: in my entire life was in nineteen ninety seven. I

963
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: was a freshman at George Washington University. You guys, can

964
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: somebody can google this and pull it up. There was

965
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: a controversy on campus because a school administrator at GW

966
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: BUCK used the phrase rule of thumb and a about

967
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: the thickness of the stick that you hit a woman with. Yeah,

968
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: a left wing feminist chick. They had a protest demanding

969
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: that the campus administrator be fired because the language was

970
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: demeaning because historically rule of thumb was what you could,

971
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: according to her, beat a woman with based on the

972
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: width of your thumb A rod and I wrote at

973
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, Hey, this is and I'm paraphrasing, this

974
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: is absolutely ludicrous. Context matters. The idea that you would

975
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: fire anybody over this is crazy. At eighteen that was

976
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: actually considered to be somewhat of a liberal opinion. Now

977
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: it would be a conservative opinion. I've stayed pretty much consistent.

978
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: You can go look it up GW.

979
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Hatchet student newspaper in that controversy, I wait in so

980
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 2: say whatever you want, make whatever argument you want to make,

981
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: do not bring your friggin tent and take over a

982
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: university campus and think that you're going to be able

983
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: to do it. And I give credit State of Texas

984
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt University, which is a private school here in Nashville.

985
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: Red states seem more open to being able to solve

986
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: this problem than Blue states and blue cities by and

987
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: large two.

988
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: So far, and I hope it continues. It's just going

989
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: to be good for everything in these red states, you know,

990
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: the Big three of Texas, Tennessee, Florida in terms of migration,

991
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: but also in the schools. This is going to be

992
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: good for the schools in those states. You know in Florida.

993
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Ronda Santis just came out and said again to clarify,

994
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: if you block a road as a protest, you're getting

995
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: arrested and you're going to be prosecuted. And he made

996
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: the point that we've made on the show many times,

997
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: which is people need to get to their jobs, People

998
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: need to get to the hospital ambulances. Get caught in

999
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: that stuff, like the idea that you could just shut down,

1000
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: you could steal hours of somebody's life and put them

1001
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: through that frustration because you're upset about climate change, your

1002
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: Palestine or whatever this is. We are not a civilized

1003
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: place if we allow lunatics to do this stuff.

1004
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: Now, I think it would only take putting, like passing

1005
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: specific law and saying hey, you have to go to

1006
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: prison for six months, no expense, no no if sand

1007
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: or Butts, if you block a road for protests, regardless

1008
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: of what your what your motivation is. In the United States,

1009
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 2: you're going to jail.

1010
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: Oh you know, sometimes you look at like things you

1011
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: get automatic sentencing for mandatory minimums for Yeah, we talked

1012
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: about this poor guy coming back.

1013
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: From Yeah, we have the audio of that to play

1014
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: when we come back to close out Yes.

1015
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: K Coast. Look, I mean, you know, I know the

1016
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: Biden State Department is full of a bunch of you know,

1017
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: gosh darn communists. I know that. But maybe in their

1018
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: in their hardened communist hearts, they could remember we got

1019
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: an American American dad and husband who's facing twelve years

1020
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: in prison for what is clearly an accident. He had

1021
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: a couple of rounds. Uh. You know, he had a

1022
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: couple of rounds of ammunition on him when he was

1023
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: going through the airport security to come home, not even

1024
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: to get into the country. Yeah, not like he's going

1025
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: to do anything the Turks and Caicos. Is he trying

1026
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: to get back to America. It was a mistake. Everyone

1027
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: knows it's a mistake. They have a mandatory system now

1028
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: where they'll send them to prison for twelve for twelve years,

1029
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: twelve years for twelve years, guys from Oklahoma City, where

1030
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: we'll have the audio for you when we come back.

1031
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: So I think CBS News did a story on this

1032
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: just I almost think it's a PSA for everybody out there.

1033
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: You just came back from the Caribbean. He went with

1034
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: his wife on a vacation trip to Turks and Caicos,

1035
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: which I don't know the overall crime rates in Turks

1036
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: and Caicos. I would think that it's probably pretty safe.

1037
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty really it's not.

1038
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: It's some of these like Trinidad and Tobago is uh

1039
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: uh or Tobago in the US Virgin Islands. I'm still

1040
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: licensed there so far as I know. Some of those

1041
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: islands actually have a lot of crime for the eys

1042
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: of the island.

1043
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: But I would think Turks and Cacos would be more

1044
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: like Saint Bart's where you just were, where it's very safe.

1045
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: But maybe i'm play The only crime in St. Bart's

1046
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: is wearing designer labels that are too ostentatious. They will

1047
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: throw you in prison if your Gucci logo is too big.

1048
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if your wife's ring is not enough carrots,

1049
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: not enough carrots, I think they might throw you in

1050
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: jail there.

1051
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: It does offend their eyes when you are not wearing

1052
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: loro piano in public. There.

1053
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is there. You go, I'm

1054
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: not cool enough, I'm legit. I've never heard of that

1055
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: in my entire life. Look, you want to make somebody

1056
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: and go to the Caribbean. I got an idea.

1057
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,880
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