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Speaker 1: Zone Pouches. Hopefully everyone is having a great day, better

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Speaker 1: than Stefanski, Carol and Gannon who felt the wrath of

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Speaker 1: Black Monday all fired. We will dive into some thoughts

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Speaker 1: with those guys, some of the gms did survive. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss selective accountability and this Matt Ryan story, how it

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Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be an executive for Atlanta

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Speaker 1: but keep his television job. Have some thoughts there as well,

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Speaker 1: and a little mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is the Instagram Fire in the dms and get your

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Speaker 1: be reacting Thursday and Friday to the college games and

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Speaker 1: then obviously Saturday Night with the Bears Packers, which pretty

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Speaker 1: good Saturday night game. We saw earlier this season it

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Speaker 1: was it was incredible theater. So buckle up, baby. So

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Speaker 1: let's just dive right in to the Black Monday and

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Arizona Cardinals, and the Cleveland Browns all

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Speaker 1: fire their coaches. I mean, well before you're probably finished breakfast,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you lived. I mean when I woke up,

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Speaker 1: least my time in here in Arizona was like maybe

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock in the morning, hal was felt inevitable. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at those three guys situations,

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Speaker 1: I think becoming a head coach there is something that

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Speaker 1: clearly makes or breaks you. Listen, we harp on ownership,

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Speaker 1: we harp on the relationship with a GM, but at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you get the quarterback right,

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Speaker 1: you're not only gonna survive, you're gonna win games. You know,

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Speaker 1: getting in a relationship or getting in a business partnership

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Speaker 1: my life that have gone through divorces and they get

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Speaker 1: pretty ugly, especially financially, if you get married to the

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking money, I'm talking emotional stress

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Speaker 1: that comes along with it. You dedicate a lot of

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Speaker 1: your life to these things, no different than a football coach.

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Speaker 1: They spend countless hours in the office, honestly, probably too much.

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Speaker 1: So Signetti went on a rant about these guys, like,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arian has been saying this forever, like you don't

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Speaker 1: We're not reinventing a bridge. And I think all these

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Speaker 1: you look at Pete Carroll. He went with Geno Smith,

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Speaker 1: clearly the right decision for Sam Donald to go to Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon accepted a head coaching job when he was

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Speaker 1: he gave Kirk Cousins two years, four year contract, but

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Speaker 1: guy's good, this guy's bad. Talking the draft coaches during

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Speaker 1: but he speaks English. They speak Chinese, which is football,

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Speaker 1: to be very, very careful because it's too difficult. There's

426
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Speaker 1: just too much online. These guys are too maniacal, like

427
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Speaker 1: you know hard. I know they had a bad year

428
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Speaker 1: this year, but do you know how many hours like

429
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Speaker 1: Andy and Veech are putting in in football. It's their life,

430
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: it's their life. I remember seeing the clip in that

431
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: documentary they did last year on the Chiefs and coach

432
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: Reed was crying after you know, it was after the

433
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Speaker 1: super Bowl. But like you're so invested, there's not like,

434
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Speaker 1: well he's doing like three other jobs. No, that's not

435
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: the way it works. So I when I saw that,

436
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I went even John Elway whenever he started with the

437
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos as the quote unquote GM and the

438
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: president that that was his job, that's all he did.

439
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm just not a huge believer. I don't care what

440
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: you're doing. But in any business that has any sort

441
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: of like high level competition of other individuals and whether

442
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: it's doesn't matter, you better be all in or you're

443
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: gonna get rolled. And I'll get out of here on this.

444
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about some people that are gonna

445
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: be zoned in right now. And I think the coolest

446
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: part about the playoffs. Obviously the players you can become legendary,

447
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: but so can the coaches. And you know, we see

448
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: some of these guys like Jonathan Gannon gets fired never

449
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. And when you make the playoffs, it's

450
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: a really big deal. Like Ben Johnson taking the Bears

451
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: to the playoffs is a huge deal. Liam Cohen taking

452
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: the Jags of the playoffs massive deal. But winning a

453
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: playoff game, even just one playoff game, is huge. Winning

454
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: playoff games on the road, Lafleur, who wants a contract extension,

455
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: is worth a lot of money. So obviously these coaches

456
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: are just nuts. They spend all week an unhealthy amount

457
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: of hours during when you're playing the crappy teams. I

458
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: do think there's an just elevated level of focus and

459
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: intensity when it comes to this week and the next

460
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: several weeks. And I think the coolest part about this

461
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: is like all of a sudden, you look up and

462
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: the Jags are in the AFC Championship game. You know,

463
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: you think Liam Cohen gets a lot of credit winning

464
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Speaker 1: thirteen regular season games. The two playoff wins would basically

465
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: be worth a season of a thirteen win. The year

466
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: it would buy, I'd give him a contract extension. You know,

467
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, most people are kind off the center of

468
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Speaker 1: the bills. He goes on a little run right now.

469
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: That's the way you get a massive contract extension. That's

470
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: the way you get so much equity that like you're

471
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: not getting fired. And I love the playoffs, man, I

472
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Speaker 1: really do, because everything is on the line. You know,

473
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: we talk. You guys know where I stand on people

474
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Speaker 1: talking about the process. No one cares about your process

475
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: if your results suck. That's just the way the world works.

476
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of these guys, when they

477
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Speaker 1: get results, that's when people really start like, what the

478
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: heck Jim Harbaugh goes on the road and beats the

479
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Patriots'd be like, God, this guy's won a lot of

480
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: playoff games. You know, this guy truly is a pretty

481
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: legendary individual. And obviously for a lot of these coaches,

482
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Speaker 1: they're very dependent on their assistance, their coordinators, their position coaches.

483
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: This is just a massive week because it sucks. It's

484
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: once you get to the second or definitely the conference

485
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: championship game. Obviously, losing is a kick in the nuts,

486
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: but it's still like winning playoff games. You advance, you

487
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: get bounced in the first round. It sucks. And the spreads,

488
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll dive into it later in the week.

489
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: They're not big. It's gonna be very hard to gamble on.

490
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very hard to pick. You know. It's like,

491
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Speaker 1: I love the Jags the way they've been playing, but

492
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: am I comfortable picking them against the Bills. I'm just very,

493
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: very excited to watch all these coaches zone in for

494
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: the week at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

495
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those DMS questions answered here on the show.

496
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Easiest way to get involved, Let's just dive right in.

497
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Speaker 1: How bananas were you going when Baltimore missed the kick?

498
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the last thing you needed for your big parlay? Honestly,

499
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: when Likely and Lamar made, I mean I saw TJ

500
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: coming around, I'm like, he's gonna sack Lamar. Beautiful pass,

501
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: incredible catch, Jalen Ramsey a step short step late. I

502
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: just thought the game was over, so I kind of

503
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: checked out, could barely watch the field goal. And you

504
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: knew it right when he came off his off his foot,

505
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: So it was it was pretty incredible. Uh, now that

506
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Speaker 1: the number one, Now that the Seahawks are the number

507
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: one seed, I want anyone but the Rams. If you

508
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: had to rank the NFC teams, who is the best

509
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: shot of making the Super Bowl? Clearly Seattle home games

510
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: two games. I mean huge home field advantage, and they

511
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Speaker 1: have a great defense. So when you have a great

512
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: defense and you play at home, if the quarterback can

513
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: just play solid and run the ball, they're gonna be

514
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: a problem. They're getting their left tackle back, they just

515
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Speaker 1: have a much easier path. Uh. Then to me, it

516
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Speaker 1: depends on you know, if like let's say the Packers

517
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Speaker 1: were to upset the Bears and the Eagles beat the Niners,

518
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: like the Eagles, get a huge advantage playing at home again.

519
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: So to me, the home games are huge. The Rams

520
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: in theory should be good. One they're not playing that well,

521
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: and two they got to go on the road. You know,

522
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: they definitely got to go on the road the first

523
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Speaker 1: two weeks. So even if Carolina is not a very

524
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: good team, right, you still gotta fly five hours, beat them,

525
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Speaker 1: come back, then fly again, maybe to play Seattle. If

526
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Speaker 1: the Niners or the Packers were to win, you probably

527
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: gotta go, you know, to Chicago. It's just a lot

528
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Speaker 1: of travel, and I think it's pretty clear Seattle won,

529
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Speaker 1: and then I would probably do some combination of like

530
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Speaker 1: Philly in the Rams, you know, the Bears. I just

531
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Speaker 1: think you can't be that bad at defense, and this

532
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: is where I'd put the Niners under the Bears. The

533
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: Niners lost even more guys against Seattle. They lost their

534
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Speaker 1: starting linebacker that replaced Fred Warner, Towarres Grown going out

535
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: for the year. They had someone sent me the injury

536
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: report today. It's like, you can't have that many injuries

537
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: and keep winning these games on the road. It would

538
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: be an incredible accomplishment. I think it's gonna be difficult,

539
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Speaker 1: even if the Eagles are weird for them even to

540
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: kind of keep it close. How are they gonna stop

541
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Speaker 1: the run? Now, maybe Kevin Patola doesn't call run plays,

542
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 1: but I think it's really Seattle to Rams or Philly.

543
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Speaker 1: I just have a hard time seeing Chicago with the

544
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: defense just terrible. I mean, their defense looked really really

545
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: bad against the Green Bay Pack or against the Lions,

546
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Speaker 1: and I get it emotional come down, but like those

547
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: are their players know It's not like, well they got reinforced. No,

548
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: it's like Jalen Johnson's out there, he's coming back from injuries.

549
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't look the same. Their DB's look so slow. You're

550
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: a forty nine er guy, I'm a Jags guy, so

551
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: we most likely both don't like Balky. You know what's

552
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: funny is everyone always hated Balkey in my interactions with him,

553
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: but he kind of big timed me once when I

554
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: was a JA for his state. But once I was

555
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: doing the media stuff and coming around, he was always

556
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: cool to me. Came on the radio again, he turned

557
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people off. Was never bad to me.

558
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of people hate him. He is kind

559
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: of universally not liked by a lot of people. I

560
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: never had an issue with him, I would say that.

561
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Speaker 1: So your question is, but watching the Jags play this

562
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: year with mostly bulky players playing out of their minds,

563
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: is it clear Doug and Press for holding the Jags back? Well,

564
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I think as a GM, you're only as good as

565
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: your coach, you know, and Balkey picked a bunch of players,

566
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: got Jim Harbaugh, and they won a bunch of games. Now,

567
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: he also inherited some guys from Scott mcclewan, but clearly

568
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job of drafting some players. They

569
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: also lost a lot of games, so they drafted high.

570
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: But the success is they got the coach right. Liam

571
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Cohen would have been good with Gladstone or with tram Balk.

572
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Clearly he's his stud coach, right, Ben Johnson be good,

573
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles or me. He's a stud coach. So when

574
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: you hire the right coach, they make players look a

575
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: lot better. It's why I never understand these gms that

576
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: want like a yes man at coach, Like you need

577
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: to get the best coach that gives you the best

578
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to win. You know. The Eagles are kind of

579
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: stuck with Sirianni. But they pay a lot for court,

580
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: like they pay Vic Vangol a lot of money they've

581
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: gone through, Like they'll pay for Kellen Moore, they paid

582
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: if Patola gets fired, like they'll pay for whoever the

583
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: top coordinators. They will not hesitate. So like paying for

584
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: coaches makes you look a lot better and it comes

585
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: to the owner, do they want to open the checkbook?

586
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: So obviously the jackson of talent because you watch them

587
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: team speed, physicality. You know, does Trent Balkey get credit

588
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. I wanted to get your thoughts on

589
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: current playoff format, specifically division winners with losing records, for example,

590
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: teams like the Panthers eight to nine but still making

591
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs by winning a week division. Do you think

592
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: there should be a rule that prevents teams with more

593
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: losses than wins from qualifying for the playoffs. Well, I've

594
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: been talking about this for a while. I think it's simple.

595
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: If you go under five hundred to win your division,

596
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: that is, it's hard to win a division, like it

597
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: is difficult, right it is. Look at the Chicago Bears,

598
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: Like the Lions just went nine to eight and they

599
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: had a horrendous year, and they kind of worked the

600
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Speaker 1: Bears most of that game, right, And that's just like

601
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: you had to beat them. You had to beat the

602
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, you gotta beat the Minnesota Vikings. All

603
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: those teams beat them. It's hard. That division is good Seattle.

604
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: It came down to the last sixty minutes against the

605
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and they also had to beat the

606
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Speaker 1: Rams a couple of weeks ago, who are all twelve

607
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: win teams. So when you go under five hundred, like

608
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: that's a reflection on the competition that you're playing six

609
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: games against. It sucks. So it has to matter. Like

610
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Speaker 1: I'm not anti divisions, divisions matter, they do. I totally agree.

611
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Speaker 1: But also if your division sucks, like you should just

612
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: get a home game if you went eight to nine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Panthers had, in theory, a must win

614
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: game and they lost. They're just not good and they

615
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: get to host the Rams. That seems crazy to me.

616
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: I think the solution is simple. You can say the

617
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: four seed, but if you go under five hundred, you

618
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: play on the road to any team that you have

619
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Speaker 1: a worst record then and you're gonna have worst record

620
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Speaker 1: than everyone in the playoffs because you went eight to nine.

621
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Speaker 1: That's such a bad record. Like the Falcons win eight

622
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: and nine, they just fired everybody. Think about that, Todd Bowles.

623
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a decent chance he still gets fired.

624
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: They're meeting tomorrow. Probably what my guess would be as

625
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: of recording this on Monday, he gets fired. I'm a

626
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: Denver fan, but trying to be objective, something just feels

627
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: weird about Sean Payton and what he's doing in Denver.

628
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: Do you ever recall a team that gets the number

629
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: one seed and is looked down upon as much as

630
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Speaker 1: the Broncos. I feel like the Charger game was played

631
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: that way on purpose to handle the win and move on.

632
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I was barely allowed to throw and they just looked

633
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: handicapped the whole game. Do you think Sean is strategically

634
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: doing this to still get the number one seed and

635
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: have everybody flying under the radar. I think the skepticism

636
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: is simple. Their offense a lot of the year has

637
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Speaker 1: not looked good. That game was a joke. Trey Lance stinks.

638
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not good. I mean it's pretty crazy

639
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: looking back the forty nine ers straight three first round

640
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: picks for him, that's an all time whiff. He's man,

641
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: He's bad. I mean, the drop off from him to

642
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: Herbert or from Herbert to him is like the size

643
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: of the Grand Canyon. I'm not sure he's an NFL player. Honestly,

644
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Chargers got very lucky that he didn't have to play

645
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: real games because they would lose them all. I would

646
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: say this about Denver. When they're right, they're gonna be very,

647
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: very tough to beat. But their defense looked a little

648
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: shaky down the stretch, and bo Nicks just has games

649
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: like against the Chiefs or against the Raiders that people

650
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: don't trust him. Simple, if he plays like they did

651
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers that one game, just seventy

652
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: five percent of that, they'll win the AFC. But most

653
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: people just don't trust him. So I think it's less

654
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: about Sean Payton and more about what people see with

655
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: bo Nicks. I think it's really that simple. And their

656
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: defense simply is not as dominant. They just haven't been

657
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: playing that well. Colin has a lot to talk about

658
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: Stefanski going to the Raiders, but if you're him, don't

659
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: you want to see if any of the one and

660
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: done playoff teams like the Bills could fire their coach.

661
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: What do you think about JA seventeen and Stefanski as

662
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: a combo? Who's JA seventeen? My an idiot John Harbaugh seventeen? Uh,

663
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. I am I moron.

664
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: I would say this about Stefanski. I think it was

665
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: reported today the Giants, the Titans and is the Cardinals

666
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: like he's gonna interview with he's getting a job. I

667
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: think if you're the Raiders, you're drafting Fernando Mendoza. So

668
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: when you draft Fernando Mendoza, you want him to be

669
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: equipped with a good coach. And I think the thing

670
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: with Tom if Tom looks back like he did, get

671
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss and then they transitioned to Josh McDaniels below Brian.

672
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, he had a really good offensive to Bruce Arians,

673
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: he had great offensive coaching his whole career. And I

674
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: think Stefanski, you know, when I see the thing about

675
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: day Ball and Brian Flores, my question would be this,

676
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Let's say Brian Flores did shake the Patriot thing, It's

677
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: actually turned good coach the second time. If Brian Daball

678
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: does a good job with Fernando Mendoza. He will get

679
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: another job. A one lock, he'll get another job. So

680
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just tire Brian Daball. I think it's really

681
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: really important if you're going to take a number one

682
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: overall pick at quarterback, to just surround him with competence,

683
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, look at Jane Daniels. I'm not

684
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: the biggest Cliff Kingsbury guy. I know he's a nice guy.

685
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: People like him, but like, I don't know something that

686
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be my first pick. Look at Caleb. They got

687
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. It's like if Caleb somehow ever fails, that's

688
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: on Caleb, not Ben Johnson. We see it works, right,

689
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and that's where Vrabel's lucky. Josh mc daniel's not gonna

690
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: get another job. Sean Payton like he's not leaving. Bo

691
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Nick's got him. Did you see that bad snap in

692
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: the Bears Lions game? Caleb stood in like the two

693
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: yard line and flat footed fifty yard rope to get

694
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: rid of it. Is it crazy to say is the

695
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: biggest arm in the league and the most talent out

696
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: of anyone, Not to mention the ball he threw against

697
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: the Niners of Lovelin. I did look up and that

698
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: ball that went through his hands. One thing Caleb has

699
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: is he's just such a good athlete. He can just

700
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: turn around and get places fast. I you know, do

701
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: the size factor into talents? To me, it does right,

702
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Like if he was four inches taller, he would be

703
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: the greatest prospect maybe ever. I mean, he'd be right

704
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: up there with John Elway just talking prospect. Like the

705
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: difference of him in Josh Allen is he just shorter

706
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: and it's just a little easier to see over guys.

707
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: So I would say Josh Allen Herbert would probably be

708
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: considered the two biggest arms. I had put Caleb right

709
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: there with him, and I do think the one thing

710
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: he has over those two guys is Josh is obviously fast.

711
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: There's like an explosion to Caleb that is like more

712
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: a little more Lamarie. Maybe not the long speed, but

713
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: there's like a shortier quickness to him that he's got. Yeah,

714
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: he's got a lead talent. What else is say? No

715
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: one disputes Caleb's like physical characteristics. The only knock you

716
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: have on the body type it is just a little

717
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: shorter than you like obviously the player you'd like a

718
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: little more touch. But maybe I think that's I've said

719
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: this before. I think you can develop that over the

720
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: offseason or I mean that's that should be the number

721
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: one thing you're working on to develop, beside like the

722
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: growth of the metal game. Because there was a pass

723
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: yesterday I think it was Luther Burton. It was like

724
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: a quick slant and I get it's the NFL. You know,

725
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: you touch it, you clutch it. He threw a slant.

726
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: It looked like a Nolan Ryan fastball. I mean Burton

727
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: turned around and that thing was off his hand. It's

728
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: like you you just got to take a little off it.

729
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: You can still throw it fast. I think he's really

730
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: got to work on that, if it's even correctable. Some

731
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: guys are never able to develop that. If the Rams

732
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: go to Charlotte and just skull bleep the Panthers, does

733
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: the NFL in the off season make a change regarding

734
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: the eligibility for the playoffs. It's crazy the Lions are

735
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: sitting at home while the Panthers are not only in

736
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs but hosting a game. I don't think anyone

737
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: would disagree the Lions are better than the Panthers. Clearly

738
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: now watch them Jamison Williams am and Ross Saint Brown

739
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: gives not even close right, but divisions as of right now,

740
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: they matter. You guys know where I stand. I'm not

741
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: even against kicking them out. I just think that you

742
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: should not get a home game. You shouldn't you watched,

743
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: It'll probably be a tie game in the second half.

744
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Why does the NFL announce primetime games week one through

745
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: seventeen before the season starts. I feel like they should

746
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: announce one through ten before the season, and then around

747
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: eight or nine announce the rest of the schedule. This way,

748
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: they make sure Thanksgiving and Christmas games are gonna be great.

749
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Every year. There are so many teams that we think

750
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: are bad and end up being interesting we never get

751
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: to see on primetime. For example, this year, everyone says

752
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: the Jags have been Their only primetime game was against

753
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they weren't even that good at the time,

754
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: or two years ago when Rogers got injured Week one.

755
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be some schedule master. I do

756
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: pretend to understand the ink, the all that goes on

757
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to it. I do think it's a

758
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: little more complicated than the way you're playing it out one.

759
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: You can't not announce the short week games. Teams have

760
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: to know so they can prepare. It's why teams are

761
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: very adamant about no flex short week games. Right, It's

762
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: hard to flex a Monday night football game because the

763
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: way I've prepared, the way I practice, it can be

764
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: an unfair advantage. So I think it's more challenging than

765
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: you say. But Sunday night football, I do think that

766
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: maybe after October, So what's the difference of playing in

767
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: the after one o'clock or five o'clock. So I would

768
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: make Sunday much more flexible. You know the problem album

769
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: miss Fox and CBS pay a lot too, so it's like, yeah,

770
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: flex the afternoon CBS game. CBS goes, we pay premiums

771
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. Fox would say,

772
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: we pay a shitload of money to show the Eagles

773
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan and this good Seattle team. We want

774
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: these games. So that's where it's like, Well, NBC just

775
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: doesn't get to monopolize corner of the market on the

776
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: sweetest games. They like the afternoon window, and let's be real,

777
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: the morning window a lot of weeks sucks. Some of

778
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: the games get entertaining down the stretch, but it's not

779
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: very good matchups. And the NFL has really turned into

780
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: if you kind of take a step back, Thursday Night,

781
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon CBS and Fox, Romo Nance in the Brady game,

782
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and then the Sunday Night and Monday night game and

783
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Monday Night can be a little hit or miss, but

784
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: it's still Monday Night football. It's fine. Everyone enjoys it.

785
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Some games are better than others, but the Sunday morning

786
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: games are not great. A lot of weeks, i mean,

787
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: are really bad. It's a lot of like Browns and

788
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals and Giants commanders. It can be rough. Great Sunday

789
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: Night show a little easier to keep up the great

790
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: work it is. There's nothing better in football season. It

791
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: does not get any easier than reacting to the games.

792
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: It's the best podcasts. If you can't do that, you

793
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: might as well quit. They really pay me for you know,

794
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: May June July question for the back. I know, the

795
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: sexy pick for Coach of the Year is the Patriots

796
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: or the Bears, but Seattle in a division with the

797
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Rams and the Niners not only win the division, but

798
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: lock up the one seed. If you wanted to vote

799
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: for Mike McDonald, Mike McDonald, I wouldn't argue. I think

800
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: it's really really hard. I think Kyle, once he lose

801
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: that game is out because Mike would have to take

802
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: him over. I think it was a group going into

803
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: last week of five guys Vrabel, Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson,

804
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, and Kyle Shanahan. If I had to guess

805
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: right now, I think Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen. I

806
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: think they will get the NOD over Rabel's schedule was

807
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: so easy. I think that will be fair not I

808
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: think Forrabel's a stud. If you voted for him, I

809
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: don't wouldn't blame you, But I think that will be

810
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: as undoing for the award. So my guests will be

811
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: it will be Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen, just because

812
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: that organization was a joke. The one thing you'd say

813
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: for Mike is he was unreal this year. He inherited

814
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a nine win team. I mean he didn't inherit the Bears.

815
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: That would be the argument for he inherited a team

816
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: that won eight games in two years. This this is

817
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: not even a question. It's basically my take on the Ravens.

818
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: They played like shit all year. We should have been

819
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: better off season. We aren't Harbaugh or Bunkin and Lamar.

820
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: It was all a yeah, I agree. They put themselves

821
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: in that position. Started one in five. Lamar missed a

822
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: bunch of times. Their defense early in the season was awful.

823
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: They still had a chance to win the game, and

824
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: let's face, they should have won the game. One thing

825
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: I didn't touch on after the game is they got conservative, right,

826
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: he had a time he had do he have multiple timeouts?

827
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: When likely caught the ball? I guess they called a

828
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: timeout when likely kitch the ball. I think you could

829
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: have been a little more aggressive, got a little closer,

830
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: you got a rookie kicker into the win. Boswell just missed. Yeah,

831
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: just I'm with you. Whoever had lost that game. It's

832
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: hard to feel sympathy for either side, right. It just

833
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: is a bigger kick in the nuts when you lose

834
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: in that fat Why does ownership matter this much or

835
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: so much? It seems like Mark Davis tries to do

836
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: the right thing and stay out of the picture. As

837
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: a Raider fan, I'm generally interested in ownership interference. These teams.

838
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Uh interference tank these teams more than fans. No. I

839
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: actually I've always said this about Mark Davis. You know,

840
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: it was around him a little bit. And then he

841
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: hires Gruden, he hired Josh McDaniels. He's like, you do it,

842
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: you do it, which is not Mike Brown, and that

843
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: family's heavily involved. But he let Brady into the club,

844
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: let him buy in. Now, Tom has a lot of

845
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: juice and by all accounts, like John spi Tech didn't

846
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: want chip Kelly. That's a classic Tom Brady chip Kelly's

847
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: Boys with Belichick. That was the dumbest hire ever. It's

848
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: like chip Kelly and Pete Carroll, this is never gonna work.

849
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: So like Tom has taken a role like he's pretty involved.

850
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Everyone that's that he knows more than me is like

851
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: reporting this. The people in the Raiders building calling the

852
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: boss and ownership all over the league. I'll use this

853
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: example today when I'm getting my podcast ready. I don't like, Hey,

854
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: these are the seven things I'm gonna I'm gonna talk

855
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: about today. These are my angles. And I forward them

856
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: off to Colin and three other people at the volume

857
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: and they go, ah, like this don't like this, let's

858
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: go with this. I just do whatever I want, right,

859
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch less sneed and Sean McVay

860
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: when they want John Schneider, when they want to do something,

861
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: they do it. Obviously they tell ownership, but ownership lets

862
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: them do whatever they want. I'm getting rid of DK

863
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: metcalf cool your decision, like that's that's not the way

864
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: it works some places. And Jeffrey Lurie, how are you doing?

865
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: What do you want to do this offseason? We're gonna

866
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: trade aj Brown? Let it rip, Howie? So when someone

867
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: tells you in micro manager you and listen, when the

868
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: guy signing your checks, what are you gonna say? Say nothing?

869
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: You do what they tell you to do, so it

870
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: becomes difficult. I think Mark Davis's downfall hired the wrong coaches.

871
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, let's face it, gruten thing. I like Gruden,

872
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: he entertains me online it was not going that well,

873
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: it really was. I like Mike Mayock too that that

874
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work. I mean, come on, let's be real.

875
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: And the Josh McDaniels thing, like, I support that. I

876
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: thought it made sense. Blew up in his face, blew

877
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: up in his face. So if you hire the wrong people,

878
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: even if you don't medal that, it will fail. If

879
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: you do metal, you don't really know what you're talking about,

880
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: and you just make things more complicated. So I think

881
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: it's a lot of just chiming in with your ideas.

882
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: More of a podcast question. I'm not sure you've answered this,

883
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: but will you continue to do live postgame reactions once

884
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: the Netflix deal hits? If so, will there be an

885
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to put out an audio only version

886
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: somewhere that is simultaneously live. I think we're still working

887
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: on the live situation. Obviously the season is close to over,

888
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: but next season, I mean, we're dealing with a progressive

889
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: company here that I don't see why. As we work

890
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: through this that that I hopefully it's available. The audio

891
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: for the podcasts have been consistent the entire time we've

892
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: been doing video. They typically come out early in the

893
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: morning the following day. This is a very fluid process,

894
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: so I don't have all the answers we will. I

895
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: will try to hammer that down the next couple weeks.

896
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: Probably gonna have a baby, I would imagine in the

897
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: next tenish days, so it's we're in a fluid part

898
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: of my world. I'm not quite sure everything. I don't

899
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: have all the answers. I guess I will get them

900
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: to you as soon as I know them. I sound

901
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: like a coach when there's an injury, like I'm not

902
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: a doctor, But we will let you know when we know.

903
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: I truly don't, but I I don't. The audio is

904
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: not gonna change. The audio will come out when it's

905
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: been coming out. I'm pretty sure which will be the

906
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning. Why is everyone saying there

907
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a massive pressure on Josh Allen to make

908
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I'm tired of people saying the Bills

909
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: roster is horrible. He doesn't have the play of Burrow

910
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Lamar or the guy who beat him four times with Mahomes.

911
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: He is by far the best quarterback. I think there's

912
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: tangible pressure on them. I think he would get a

913
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: lot of credit if we look up and there in

914
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He gotta win this week. I get

915
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: the Jags are really good. Gotta be Trevor Lawrence and

916
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: the Jacks. That's a big game for him. You get

917
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot of credit if he wins because they're good.

918
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: But like that's tough to be wanted done in the

919
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: playoffs in the prime of your career. But what happens

920
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: if he plays well, he throws four touchdowns and they

921
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: lose by ten points. Is that his fault? Let him

922
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: play out like there's pressure on him. He's playing Trevor Lawrence,

923
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: who's been awesome. Would you trade Mike Tomlin for Mike McDaniel.

924
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: The Dolphins need a culture center and the Steelers need

925
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: to develop. Mike McDaniel can now be the coach of

926
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Can't happen. There's just no way. The Rooney

927
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: family would never hire Mike McDaniel ever. Sp cole that

928
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: guy looks in cold weather games. He would not even

929
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: be on the short list. Woant I hire him as

930
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: my offensive coordinator? For sure. Mike McDaniel's never gonna be

931
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: the coach of the Steelers. If Mike Mike McDaniel is

932
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: a coach of another NFL team, it'd be like the Cardinals,

933
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be a team like that. It would

934
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: not He would never be the coach of the Steelers.

935
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Mike Tomblin coach and the Dolphins one I can see that.

936
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Mike and Daniel though never I grew up on rugby.

937
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: I cannot believe someone that hasn't someone from that world

938
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: hasn't sold themselves to a team as a tackling expert.

939
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: I know NFL players think they tackle well, and some do,

940
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: but I cannot believe how many mistackles I see every week.

941
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: I just watched the Steelers running back run through four

942
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: week tackles. I think he's talking about the Jalen Warren

943
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: run on the outside every year or every yard counts.

944
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: Coaching staff wouldn't want to do that. What am I

945
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: paying the linebacker coach seven hundred fifty grand for? What

946
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: am I paying my defensive coordinator to two million dollars for?

947
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: If anything, those guys should reach out on their own

948
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: time and figure out some techniques. But if I'm an owner,

949
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: I would why do what are my coaches teaching? I

950
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: also think this, You know, the practice in football has

951
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: changed dramatically. You don't really practice, so it's hard to

952
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: not really practice tackling and then just playing games against

953
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren expect to win in a one on one spot.

954
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: I think that factors in in a big, big way.

955
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: Listen to you and Colin about Mendoza's comp it's Burrow good,

956
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: not great arm, but really good down the field, accuracy,

957
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: comfortable when flushed from the pocket, and can throw in

958
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: the move. Not a runner, but has mobility. These guy's

959
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: like a scout. Most similarly clutch in the fourth quarter

960
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: late game situations. Oregon, Iowa, Penn State, and Iowa State

961
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: all required Mendoza to score keep possessions and he never blinked.

962
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't hate that at all. I think there are

963
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: some similarities there, for sure. You know, a lot of

964
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's ability is just he's not the most physically

965
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: gifted guy, doesn't have the biggest arm, is definitely not

966
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: the fastest, isn't the tallest. He's just really good, even

967
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: though he didn't really play that good kind of down

968
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: the stretch of the season. But I don't hate that

969
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: at all. The Matt Ryan thing, Matt Ryan to me

970
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: couldn't move, so I see more of a mobile I

971
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: like the Joe Burrow. Like Joe Burrow can move, you know,

972
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: like a taller party. He can move, He can make

973
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: plays with his legs. Trying to think of some other guys.

974
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: I actually think there are a lot of similarity Trevor

975
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a better athlete, but I think the physical

976
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: arm uh coming out of college. I think there's some

977
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: similarities there. How do the Niners get pressure next week?

978
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. This no slash can't pressure

979
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: game plan is agonizing to watch. They don't have any

980
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: pass rushers, so how are they gonna get pressure? They're not.

981
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I guess you could blitz the house if you blitz

982
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: the house with a mobile quarterback. You saw this with

983
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: Kleb and with Jalen. If they want to make you

984
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: pay with their legs, they can. To me if I'm

985
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: Kevin Petola. There's the forty nine Ers. The winners is

986
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna be out for this game, and Tatum Bethune is

987
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: out for the season. The Niners do not have any

988
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: linebackers and their defensive line is decimated. I think they

989
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: had multiple defensive line injuries in that game. Sakauon Barkley,

990
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have thirty plus carries in this game,

991
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: I would fire him on the spot. If the forty

992
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: nine Ers beat the Eagles in this game, how is

993
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: gonna be firing some people? Because there's no They have

994
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: no business losing because their defense is just decimated they

995
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: should if if you told me right now over under

996
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: rushing attempts for the Eagles, if it's not well over

997
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: thirty five, they're not doing it right. I mean, that's

998
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: that'd be really bad. I think the forty nine ers

999
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble. You just you can't

1000
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: lose that many players on defense, because this is an

1001
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: offense where it's like I can scheme to Marcus Robinson up,

1002
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I can call some plays for Kendrick Bourne. What am

1003
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: I supposed to do for a pass rusher that can't

1004
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: rush the past? What am I supposed to do for

1005
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: a practice squad linebacker in a playoff game against Saquon Barkley.

1006
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: It's really difficult, So I you might as well just

1007
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: throw the kids and sink at him. My game plan

1008
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: would be simple, Listen, you just kind of gotta lean

1009
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: on Lenore Stout and Ernardo Green and hopefully they can

1010
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of cover the wide receivers, and I would just

1011
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: blitz the house and stack the box and be like,

1012
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're just gonna try to somewhat

1013
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: neutralize if Saquon keeps Saquon under seventy five eighty yards

1014
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: and just take our chances with Jalen down the field.

1015
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: But if Saquon, if you told me right now he

1016
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: rushes for one hundred and forty hundred and fifty hundred

1017
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: and sixty yards, the Niners would be in major trouble.

1018
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: The other thing is their defense pretty good, and they

1019
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: got multiple pass rushers, they got good linebacker play. It's

1020
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard, it would be. It would be

1021
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: one of Kyle's truly great wins with the roster that

1022
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: he's coming in with. Truly would be, which I think

1023
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: Ricky pierceaw Kyle's the today that you know, reinjured his

1024
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: PCL before that game, so I would guess he's not

1025
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna play. I don't know. I think the Niners remarkable

1026
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: accomplishment winning some of these games. Winning that Bears game

1027
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: was crazy, but I just I think they're just out

1028
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: of bodies and there's no reinforcements coming. So all the

1029
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: pressures on the Eagles. They are favored in this game.

1030
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: They should win this game. But I guess that's why

1031
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: he snapped the ball. That's why you kick it off,

1032
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: play sixty, hope, maybe get some turnovers. Maybe you got it.

1033
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: Freaky shit, to happen. But Robert sala Is gonna have

1034
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: to just dial up some blitzes or I don't even know.

1035
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you can do. Clearly, they're

1036
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to score points. I mean, they're gonna have

1037
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: to be in the high twenties to me to have

1038
00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: a shot to win any playoff game. Audios the volume