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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: in Fantasy Labs that time of year again, Week one.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, Chris Raven, and I am joined

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Speaker 2: by one of the most accurate rankers in the biz,

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Speaker 2: Odds maker Sean Kerner. Sean Happy week one?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Happy Week one?

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Speaker 2: It's finally oh yeah, And this is got a little

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Speaker 2: Waivers pod. And what we'll do is we'll highlight players

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Speaker 2: right into it, Sean week one. Who do you like

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Speaker 2: for a quarterback? That should be available in the majority

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when it comes to like options for Week one.

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Speaker 1: It's always one of the trickiest and roughest weeks to stream,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. For me, he opens a week as my

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Speaker 1: For me, well, that's good. I felt like I was

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Speaker 2: All right, wide receiver? Who do you like at wide

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Speaker 1: would actually help Yosebash because I think Jermaine Burton's insanely

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Speaker 1: and talented. You know, he was the borderline first round talent.

431
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Speaker 1: He only fell the round three because of off field concerns.

432
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Speaker 1: Like you said, he's fall asleep in practice. If they're

433
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Speaker 1: forced to play meetings, oh, I mean, yeah, we've been practiced.

434
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Speaker 1: I'm deserved to never ever play a game again. They

435
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Speaker 1: didn't like his his work ethic approach at practice either,

436
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: preparing for games and things like that. So but if

437
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: he's forced on the field, he's gonna be harder to

438
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Speaker 1: take off because I think he is extremely talented, probably

439
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: more talented than Yosbash. So I've been kind of debating

440
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: if Jamar Chase missing time would actually help or hurt

441
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: yo Svash. But either way, if Chase ends up being

442
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: rolled out this week, Josavash should be, uh, potentially in

443
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Speaker 1: my top thirty six.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean, Joseabash is also very talented,

445
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: and he's got that year of chemistry and they he's

446
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: been having the great camp. So obviously Burton stands out

447
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: when you run the right route, But yeah, I think

448
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: it helps both of them. It's it's tough to kind

449
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: of choose because Josavajh. He just gets a bump in

450
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 2: target share from the number three to two. But then

451
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Burton actually has a pass to playing time. Although the

452
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: way it sounds now, they probably would just start Trenton

453
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Speaker 2: Irwin if if Jamar Chase were to miss. So yeah,

454
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Speaker 2: that's that. Yeah, So I'm gonn yea. I'm gonna say

455
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 2: yosavagh at least now. But if it drags on, then

456
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: eventually that clears the path for Burton to just send sooner.

457
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Speaker 1: All right, tight end?

458
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Speaker 2: Who do you like on waivers had a week one?

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a pretty rough week for tight end streamers.

460
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: The highest rink I have for a guy that's available

461
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: is Katee Aughton at tight end seventeen, available in eighty

462
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: percent of leagues, and he's a guy that I kind

463
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: of pointed out as a potential breakout can this year

464
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: could become an every week tight end one league winner type.

465
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean for Auden. The one thing going for Auten

466
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: is his underlying usage when it comes to routes run

467
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: consistently ninety percent or above, which is one of the

468
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: best at the position. Unfortunately, he just doesn't see enough

469
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: targets to put up tight end one production. But he's

470
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: entering year three. You know, sometimes it takes tight ends

471
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Speaker 1: a few years to break out, so we could see

472
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Speaker 1: that happen this year. Plus. Ever since he took over

473
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Speaker 1: a starter almost two full seasons ago, neither Mike Evans

474
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: or Chris Godwin have ever missed time. Other tight ends

475
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Speaker 1: have banked on, you know, other targets in their offense

476
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: missing time, not auten, so we haven't really seen his

477
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Speaker 1: built in upside if either one of those guys missed time,

478
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: because then he'd be potentially a top two target that week.

479
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that you know, he's probably where

480
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: he should be right now, you know, kind of a

481
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: mid range tight end too, But if you're desperate for

482
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: somebody week one, he makes sense and he could offer

483
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: some long term tight end one value if he does

484
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: break out this year.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I'm a little I wonder how

486
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna if they're gonna change the rotation up at all,

487
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: because they did keep four this time, right with the

488
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: I think they kept the rookie culp, so I wonder

489
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Speaker 2: if they're gonna and uh, what's his name, Payne Durrow. Yeah, yeah,

490
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're gonna, like, if it's gonna be

491
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Speaker 2: straight ninety percent and then the other guys are just

492
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Speaker 2: behind him again, or it's gonna be a little different

493
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: because they have the new OC. But yeah, if he's

494
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: getting that ninety percent routes run, I mean, that's that's

495
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: all you can really do at tight end is kind

496
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: of look for those those snacks and hope it pays off.

497
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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: For me, I got a couple guys. Uh. Taysom Hill

499
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: is available in over half of ESPN leagues. He's a fringe,

500
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: He's he's always got super high upside, but he's got

501
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: a very low floor. But if you want an upside shot,

502
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't mind Taysom really any week. But I also

503
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: like zach Ertz. Ertz is a guy who I've been

504
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: kind of saying he's going to start the year in

505
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: this Cliff Kingsbury offense. It's probably the number two targets,

506
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: especially now that you know the Johan Dotson got traded.

507
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Echoler can only be on the field so much sputting

508
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: work with Brian Robinson Jr. So zach Ertz is the

509
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: favorite to be number two on the Commanders in targets

510
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, on a weekly basis, until he gets hurt

511
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: in like week eight, So until then, I think he

512
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: is right there on that you know, fringe of tight

513
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: end one discussion, and another guy kind of a sleeper

514
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: is Kobe Parkinson. Parkinson's a guy who he has a

515
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: very good chance to be in on eighty eighty five

516
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: percent of this No, that's kind of like Kate Otten,

517
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: but in a much better offense against a Lion defense

518
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: that gave up the seventh most fantasy points to tight

519
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: ends last season. And I think the Lions they're getting

520
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: better at corner, they're gonna they're getting better with the passer,

521
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: so tight end might still be the spot where you

522
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: have to target them. So like Parkinson is kind of

523
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: a dart throw there. But I think the safe, the

524
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: highest floor guys probably ERTs just based on where he

525
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: could fall in in the target precking order. In Washington

526
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: against the vulnerable Buck defense that gave up the second

527
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: most of fantasy points the tight ends, the defense should

528
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: be the same because Todd Bowles is still there, so

529
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: it's the offense that that may change. All right, let's

530
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Speaker 2: close it out with the defense and kicker streamers who

531
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: you like for defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be the Bengals this week because

533
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: they faced the Patriots. They're available in forty five percent

534
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: of leagues. They opened the week as my top ranked defense,

535
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: and I always emphasize being the top ranked defense does

536
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: not mean they're going to be the actual high scoring

537
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: defense of the week. It doesn't even guarantee that they're

538
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: going to be top five. It just means that based

539
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: on the more stable stats that we project for defense,

540
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: like points allowed, sacks, they're probably going to finish above

541
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: average this week. And that's all I'm willing to say.

542
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: But you know, this matchup is always gonna be perfect

543
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: for streaming defense against the Pats, their offensive line is

544
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: a disaster. This Bengals defense is you know, full health now.

545
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard had a knee scare in early August, but

546
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: he looks good to go, so that this defense is

547
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: at full strength. I think Trey Hendrickson should dominate the Pats'

548
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: offensive line this week, so we should see a few

549
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: sacks from them. Should be able to you know, keep

550
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: them under twenty points or so, could force some turnovers,

551
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: so they fit. They check every box when it comes

552
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: to what you'd like in a streaming defense, and we'll

553
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: probably see that for most teams facing the Patriots if

554
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: they're available in over half the leagues. But as of now,

555
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, the Bengals are my top ranked defense and

556
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: they are available in nearly half leagues, so they're my

557
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: top streaming option as of now.

558
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was actually drafting a team for

559
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: a friend, and I was saying, I was saying, like,

560
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: all right, when it comes to defense. First of all,

561
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: there's people taking defenses and kickers before the last two rounds,

562
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: which is I'm like, what we're gonna do is we're

563
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: not even gonna take one unless they leave the Bengals there,

564
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: because lot the Bengals we going And sure enough, like

565
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: after the whole entire league has already taken all their

566
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: defenses and all the kickers. Look who's sitting there, My

567
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: Bengals and my top ranked kicker, Jig Baits, which I'll

568
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: get to in a minute. But there's a good chance

569
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: you can get the top ranked at least my top

570
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: ranked defense and kicker on waivers this week, because like

571
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: you said, it's all about matchup. For me, I'll go

572
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: with the Minnesota Vikings. They're available in about of leagues

573
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: going up against the New York Giants, and I like

574
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: this for a couple of reasons. Number One, the Vikings

575
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: have been getting better on defense personnel wise. You know,

576
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago it was really rough, but

577
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: now they've kind of rebuilt that defense. Even though they

578
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: lost Danil Hunter, they still made some ads and kind

579
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: of have pretty solid players all up on every level

580
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 2: of the defense. And you have Ryan Flores who can

581
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: do more with less, and he can be super multiple,

582
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: he can blitz, he can drop you know, eight in

583
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: the coverage, just a lot of confusing looks. And the

584
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: thing I like about facing the Giants this time because

585
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: remember they used to torch the Vikings when it was

586
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: Donatel and that just zone, easy zone defense. But now Flores,

587
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, they spent all offseason kind of adding guys

588
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: that could play more man coverage. You got Stefan Gilmour

589
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: and Griffin at the corners, and so you're gonna be

590
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: able to play man blitz a ton and the Giants

591
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: are going to pass. You know, this is not hide

592
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and handed to bark Lee. Barkle's gone, so

593
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: you're going to get a lot of opportunities against what

594
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: should be a pass happy Giants offense, and Daniel Jones

595
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: struggles when he holds the ball and throws it downfield,

596
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: so I expect this to be nothing like Daniel Jones

597
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: essentially made a career out of playing the Vikings with

598
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: throw coordinator. I expect this to be completely different. So

599
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: I have the Vikings as my number seven defense, no

600
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: Number six, sorry, number six defense this week. All right, kicker,

601
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: who do you like?

602
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm going with Chase McLaughlin here for the Bucks. They're

603
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: at home against the Commanders. He's available in ninety eight

604
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: percent of leagues, so he's probably available wherever wherever you

605
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: have kickers in your format. But you know, the top

606
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: six kickers and my weekly projections are all owned most leagues. However,

607
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: mackay looks like he's legit questionable, so if you own him,

608
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: watch out like he might sit this week, so be

609
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: careful with him. But McLaughlin is my number eight kicker

610
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: to open the week, and he's coming off his best

611
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: season last year with the ninety four percent field goal rate,

612
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: and he has a big leg. You know, he has

613
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: at least seven made fifty plus yarders in each of

614
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, which is a nice bonus for

615
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: most leagues because you get, you know, actually a couple

616
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: of points for fifty yarders. So you know this should

617
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: be a fairly low scoring game. You know that the

618
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Bucks team total is only twenty two and a half,

619
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: but they could stall in the red zone. They could

620
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: be playing with the lead. So I like his field

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00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: goal upside here and again, like I said, if if

622
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: they get inside you know, a sixty yard attempt from him,

623
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna let him kick it, which you know is

624
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: a huge bonus when it comes to kicker. So Chase

625
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: McLaughlin as of now is my top streaming kicker.

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00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: I think you just spent more time talking about you

627
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: had so many notes on the Claughlin. I expect you

628
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: you just be like, yeah, he's my top kicker, like

629
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: that's it. You usually don't even talk about kick at all. Okay, ready,

630
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I do not give a shit about kickers before the

632
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: season starts, do not draft them whatsoever. I don't care

633
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: who they are. However, right now, well, right now, yeah,

634
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: week one started, you have to pick up a kicker.

635
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: This is when I shift to actually giving a shit,

636
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: So you better believe I'm at kickers now and my

637
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: my kickers streaming articles you should have you know, seven

638
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: or eight bullet points, so be ready for this as

639
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a weekly tradition for me to talk about my kicker

640
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: way too much.

641
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I love it. I always kind

642
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: of like kickers because I think, yeah, it benefits people

643
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: like us, who are you know, so meticulous with our projections,

644
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: because I think there really is an edge if you

645
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: just got to know again, it comes down to stable

646
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: stats and point score is you know, just kind of

647
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: predicting a team's point that's all you're really that's like

648
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: your baseline, and then it's just a matter of okay,

649
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: which kicker have bigger legs and you know we'll get

650
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: more attempts from deeper. But speaking of which, my number

651
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: one kicker this week is Jake Bates. I know he's

652
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: never kicked in the NFL in a regular season game yet,

653
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: but he's on the Detroit Lions and he won the job.

654
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: And the Lions are indoors and they are my projected

655
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: highest scoring team of the week, and so baits one

656
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: of the reasons they kept him is because he has

657
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: a big leg. So the Lions, you know, they are gonna. Yes,

658
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: they go for they go forward on fourth down a ton,

659
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: But going forward on fourth down doesn't always hurt the

660
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: kicker because you could go forward on fourth down like

661
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: in midfield, extend to drive so you can kick a

662
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: longer field goal the next time. And I think that's

663
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: what the Lions are trying to do now and why

664
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: they ended up choosing like a more unproven guy with

665
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: leg but kickers like this, it really just comes down

666
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: to team points. So when you have a team like

667
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: the Lions, who are you know, projected to score what

668
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: about twenty eight according to the Vegas lines or something

669
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: like that. You know, the total is fifty one their home,

670
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: their favorites close game two, so I think it's three

671
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: and a half is the projected spread. So everything you

672
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: want in a kicker. So Baits never kicked in the

673
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: NFL already my kicker won, so you could and Bengals

674
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: on my defense one. So yeah, this is why you

675
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: don't draft kickers and defenses before the last two rounds,

676
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: if at all, because you're gonna be able to find

677
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: really really good options week in week out on the waiver.

678
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: While yeah, that'll be Baits every week, assuming he you know,

679
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: an accurate kicker, not terrible, right, A lot of yeah,

680
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: a lot of points with the Lions and a lot

681
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: of indoor games. I don't think they play outdoors until

682
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: week nine and after that they don't play outdoors again

683
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: until week sixteen, and that I know you have an

684
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: indoor model as well. But yeah, it significantly increases their

685
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: field goal make percentage. That's huge. Just you know, one

686
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: game outdoors until week sixteen. I'm looking at right now,

687
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: one game outdoors till week sixteen. Every week they're gonna

688
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: have a team total of twenty five plus. So yeah,

689
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Baits could be a long term play at kicker as well.

690
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you should have a high floor because if

691
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: even if the Lions are you know, going for for

692
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: for you know, going forward on fourth a lot, which

693
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I feel like part of the reason he did that

694
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: was that he just didn't trust the legs of the

695
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: kickers they have Patterson and badly. But if the Lions,

696
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: like each week, if the Lions are playing indoors every week,

697
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: they're gonna score a lot of points. So at least

698
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: you should be getting extra points, you know, So like, yeah,

699
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have any weeks where you're getting goose egg

700
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: or like one or two. Like the Lions should be

701
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: scoring three four touchdowns if you know, at minimum most weeks,

702
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: if they're playing in doors, if they're not hitting any

703
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: field goals. So yeah, it should be a pretty solid situation.

704
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: And I think they the fact that he's like a

705
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: long distance specialist, they probably will go for go for

706
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: go for it on fourth a little less in those

707
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: situations now, So yeah, I'm I'm I'm optimistic, but yeah,

708
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: you never know what kickers. But that's why it's just

709
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: a one week add for now.

710
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: And if it works out, since you know, I'm I'm

711
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: all excited, we're talking about streaming kickers for the first

712
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: time ever on this pod. I mean, I ask you

713
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: more of a game three question, but sometimes I like

714
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: to add it's got to be close. It's got to

715
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: be a kicker I actually like. But if I have

716
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: a kicker that is playing for my opponent's quarterbacks team.

717
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: So let's say I'm playing at somebody that's Jared Goff,

718
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: I would take Jake Bates and play him. And the

719
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: reason I actually tell my guy I'm playing their woman,

720
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm playing that week, I'm essentially changing the league setting

721
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: on passing touchdowns and I'm Lauri at one point because

722
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: every time every time their quarterback throws a touchdown, you

723
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: know it's one last point because I'm get an extra point.

724
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: Is that a high floor player? Height? Like, is that

725
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: the strategy you should employ when you're the underdog, the favorite,

726
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: or just not at all? I think the.

727
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: Favorite because if you're if you're an underdog, you want

728
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: a kicker that can kick like five fifty yarders without

729
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: being attacked. Like, you don't want the correlation there. You

730
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: want you want the other teams quarterback to suck, and

731
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: you know, like, because what could happen is the other

732
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: team's quarterback could suck and the whole offense could suck.

733
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

734
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: You want well correlated, but it might it also could not.

735
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: So you want you want to get maximum upside. You

736
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: want to be able to have your kicker kind of

737
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: like basketball. You want to have your kicker go off

738
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: and your your your opponent's quarterback not only like struggle

739
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: and stall in the red zone, but not even reach

740
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: the red zone or field goal rings at all. So yeah,

741
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: I would say yeah, but it is a high floor play. Yeah,

742
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: if you're a fait.

743
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: Why not, because yeah, the quarterback position should be scoring

744
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: way more points than the kicker. So I think if

745
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: if the offense gets shut out, that that's a good

746
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: sign for you. And if you took a zero from

747
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: your kicker, at least their quarterback stuck. I just love

748
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: when their quarterback throws a touchdown and like, crap, that

749
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: was only worth three points. But again, I only use

750
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: that strategy. I only use that strategy when the kicker

751
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: is like in the mix and I'm having a decide

752
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: between like three or four different kickers. But I like

753
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: to get my opponent's head and I tell them.

754
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: That, I mean, yeah, so's you raise a good point.

755
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: But now that I think about it, yeah, you definitely

756
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: would have. I think you definitely have to be like

757
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: a favorite and trying to protect because the other thing is, yeah,

758
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback is throwing three point touchdowns, but number one,

759
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: you're adding yardage. But number two, a lot of weeks

760
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: now are giving kickers, like, you know, four points for

761
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: a four forty yard field goal. So you don't want

762
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: to be losing out on field goals because the team

763
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: is your kickers team is going touchdowns either, you know

764
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: what I mean? So it's definitely kind of a floor

765
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: play win. I think Number one, it's ideal in leagues

766
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: where it's just three points for field goals unless it's

767
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: a fifty yard or not, like you know, three point

768
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: five for thirty five or four for forty to fifty,

769
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: then I think you're sacrificing too much. It also has

770
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: to be a situation where likely maybe you're protecting a

771
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: league and you just waited to decide on kicker. Maybe

772
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: you let like the Thursday game and even the one

773
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: o'clock window go and then you decided on your kick.

774
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

775
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, and it would yeah, it would have

776
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: to be so because essentially you don't want like, if

777
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: there's just a a better option, like let's say there

778
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: is like a top eight to ten kicker, I wouldn't

779
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: take like the kicker twenty just because it's the opposing quarterback.

780
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: But if it's like kind of close, then I think

781
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: it makes sense because it's definitely away to kind of

782
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: protect your lead. But yeah, that that's an interesting But

783
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: like in general, I always tell people, like a lot

784
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: of people always ask me, oh, should I start like

785
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: two guys on the same team or somebody against my

786
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: o poets, like, really start your best players. Like the

787
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: only this is just a specific game theory ad that

788
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: we're discussing, but like in general, start your best players

789
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: or the best players available to you, regardless of you know,

790
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: how the teams break down between you, you're an opponent,

791
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: because they're there. That's the whole point of projecting and

792
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: ranking them. Like, if you have two players projected to

793
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: score the most points, whether they're on their same team

794
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: or your opponent as the quarterback, whatever, they're still projected

795
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: to score the most point. So yeah, that's that's how

796
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: you want to approach that. That's gonna do it. For

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00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,440
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