Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,
Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler.
Speaker 1: We are so excited because today we have two guests
Speaker 1: who are I don't even know if we should call
Speaker 1: them by their entire name or just farmer Matt and
Speaker 1: Farmer John from the show Farmer Wants a Wife Matt
Speaker 1: Warren and John Sansone. I had never seen this show before,
Speaker 1: and I just watched the first two episodes. They are
Speaker 1: starring in season three and I am dying of excitement
Speaker 1: to let them in. Mom, what do you think? I
Speaker 1: think they are so adorable and so handsome. Me too,
Speaker 1: And I wore green because of farming and the earth.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy is that I'm in green,
Speaker 1: We're both in green, and we're both.
Speaker 2: In sweatshirts from the Great All right, let's let them in.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2: So much for joining us. Wait, I met John. I
Speaker 2: met you right at the iHeart You came up to
Speaker 2: my dad.
Speaker 4: Was amazing.
Speaker 3: I mean you met or no, I think I was
Speaker 3: kind of lurking in the back somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we met like momentarily, so we met for a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes at the I Heart Music Awards.
Speaker 2: I went with my dad and let's introduce your mom. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is most important.
Speaker 1: Hi my mom, Stacy, And wait one quick. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: maybe if you're open to it, you could do farmer
Speaker 1: wants a Nana. Let's go our farmer wants a mom.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 4: The options are endless.
Speaker 1: Wait, so, so I've never seen this before, mom?
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this before? Never? And I and
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that I love it. Me too. You'll be
Speaker 2: very sincere and.
Speaker 1: You both are so perfect because you you really do
Speaker 1: love what you do and it shows through. And you're also,
Speaker 1: from my mother's point of view, really good, good people.
Speaker 1: And it's impressive.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: So did somebody like did I know, like for the Bachelor?
Speaker 1: I was actually going to be the bachelorette when I
Speaker 1: was younger, but I would have like burnt down our
Speaker 1: entire family. It would have been horrible for everybody. But
Speaker 1: did someone like my best friend putn't like referred me
Speaker 1: or signed me up? Would did someone do that for
Speaker 1: you guys? Or did you guys sign yourselves up?
Speaker 3: John? And I have the same story pretty much. But
Speaker 3: basically our families are both big fans of the show,
Speaker 3: and I would have never have done this, or I
Speaker 3: thought I would do this, and I got reached out
Speaker 3: to on social media and I still was like I
Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to do this for a long time,
Speaker 3: but after a while I was like, all right, I
Speaker 3: why not. Like a good opportunity and could be fun
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 2: John, same for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, same. I mean there was a last season there
Speaker 4: was a guy from Sikeston, Missouri, which is probably twenty
Speaker 4: minutes from where grandparents live, where the farm is, and
Speaker 4: I would come into the kitchen, you know, like trying
Speaker 4: to get some quick dinner, and my mom and sister
Speaker 4: would be like, John, come in here. You got to
Speaker 4: see this. You'd be perfect for this show, Like what show?
Speaker 2: If they were right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I got the DM and I showed them
Speaker 4: and they were like, oh my god, I mean you
Speaker 4: have to do it.
Speaker 2: And you guys can't tell us right if you met
Speaker 2: your wives?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately?
Speaker 2: No, Okay, I have some fun.
Speaker 1: Wait I have can you can you tell us if
Speaker 1: they were the ones you brought?
Speaker 2: Oh that's the point. Okay, same question okay, I oh, okay.
Speaker 1: So I really didn't like die for Samantha in the
Speaker 1: first episode, but I really liked during the second episode. Wait,
Speaker 1: I thought we weren't allowed to say that what if
Speaker 1: they're married or no, no, no.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. We can still talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're good.
Speaker 1: I'm dead that you're twenty five. First of all, you're
Speaker 1: a child. I'm twenty years older than you. Twenty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah good, I'm forty four, Matt.
Speaker 2: You're thirty.
Speaker 3: I've just been thirty one.
Speaker 1: Outrageous, although I met my husband at twenty five, so
Speaker 1: this feels good. But I didn't die for Samantha first,
Speaker 1: but then I really liked her in the second episode.
Speaker 1: And then also I really wasn't sure about Jordan in
Speaker 1: the first episode because she's a singer and I was
Speaker 1: worried that she was just using this as a platform,
Speaker 1: not here for the right reasons.
Speaker 2: But then I like, I really like both of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously everyone has their preconceived notions, and Jordan and Samantha,
Speaker 3: I've been kind of getting drugged through all the online
Speaker 3: comments and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But really that's what they signed up for. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: all have to be tough skinned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's really hard.
Speaker 1: It's really hard, especially if you don't have like experience
Speaker 1: in this world, Like people are just so mean and
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. When you put yourself out there, you
Speaker 1: have to expect that because people were vile to me
Speaker 1: when I first met Henry.
Speaker 2: They were the lowest. But you were a supermodel.
Speaker 4: So still are I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Still John, John? You still are?
Speaker 1: Mom?
Speaker 2: Dad better watch out.
Speaker 1: I would like to know John, what year of law
Speaker 1: school are you in?
Speaker 4: Number? I would say one and a half because I
Speaker 4: took a semester off to do the show.
Speaker 2: And what kind of lawyer do you want to be?
Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to get into like land rights and
Speaker 4: land regulations and stuff, would in right, Yeah, because I
Speaker 4: wanted to, you know, be able to protect and stand
Speaker 4: up for small family farmers and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really important because they don't have much of
Speaker 1: a voice at this point, right, especially know they're supposed
Speaker 1: to it's not the truth, right exactly.
Speaker 2: No, he's going to answer now, So you don't you
Speaker 2: don't speak shot answers.
Speaker 4: She also, I don't want to get in trouble and.
Speaker 1: You're fine, You're fine, she we we we she is
Speaker 1: the one, meaning me who gets it trouble.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you guys are good.
Speaker 1: And Matt, did you always decide like this is? It
Speaker 1: wasn't always what you were planning to do. But now
Speaker 1: that you're doing it, do you love it more than anything?
Speaker 2: Like? Is it what you are hoping to continue doing?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I grew up around ag being in California and
Speaker 3: like rural areas. All my friends either ranched or or
Speaker 3: road produced and all that kind of stuff and so,
Speaker 3: and I've been around it with my family for the
Speaker 3: past ten or twelve years. But then finally, like you know,
Speaker 3: now work in it and it's awesome. I mean the
Speaker 3: people really is what makes it, Like, you know, an
Speaker 3: ag that's the best kind of people.
Speaker 2: Everyone's you know is agriculture. Yes, any kind of as
Speaker 2: a aggies.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, good, I mean I'm very far
Speaker 1: from that, but we do live in La so we're
Speaker 1: not far from where you guys live. Well, you live
Speaker 1: and you live in Bay morel Bay is heaven get
Speaker 1: the best of all worlds and Saint Louis your your
Speaker 1: property and your home look breathtaking. Both of you guys
Speaker 1: look like you are really on top of your game
Speaker 1: and have a beautiful place to work out of. I
Speaker 1: just want to know what are the exotic fruits.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Our main thing is more bad
Speaker 3: avocados that we grow and you can actually get them
Speaker 3: in a lot of places through la. We're going to
Speaker 3: be an air one, so next.
Speaker 2: To one of those, but we love air one.
Speaker 3: We called finger limes. It's an Australian citrus. If you've
Speaker 3: heard of those.
Speaker 2: No, I only heard for the first time.
Speaker 3: Well any of them, but really neat looks like caviar,
Speaker 3: but it's citrus. And then on top of that, we're
Speaker 3: the first coffee plantation in California.
Speaker 2: Coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do coffee here, and then we do dragon fruit, passion.
Speaker 2: Fruit, Oh, you do.
Speaker 3: Lemons, slimes, cheram oils. We dabbled in troubles and do
Speaker 3: all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2: And what about you, John, What if you guys are
Speaker 2: soy wheat? And what is the other one?
Speaker 3: Women?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Corn?
Speaker 4: Corn? Yeah, so it's like row crops. That's a general
Speaker 4: way of putting it. My grandfather's been doing that. It's
Speaker 4: on his land for five generations.
Speaker 3: It's sticks.
Speaker 4: In the show that was a little typo.
Speaker 2: Six years.
Speaker 4: It's five five generations.
Speaker 1: Five generations and do you guys? So if you do,
Speaker 1: it's it's similar to the way like the Bachelor works.
Speaker 1: Like you guys, if you do find some then you
Speaker 1: get to like you have to see each other in
Speaker 1: private and then you can't announce it.
Speaker 2: When is it? When do we find out?
Speaker 3: Last episode? Which we're coming up the third ones tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've watched it on Hulu, so it's on Fox, right,
Speaker 2: and then what night Thursdays at.
Speaker 4: Eight yep eight Central Thursdays.
Speaker 2: At eighth Central on Fox. Okay?
Speaker 1: And then so you're on the third episode? How many
Speaker 1: episodes are there for us eleven?
Speaker 2: Eleven?
Speaker 4: Final two? I think are back to back on.
Speaker 1: The same night, and they meet your family and everything.
Speaker 1: So does your family weigh in on this decision? Because
Speaker 1: for me, like it was a huge part was I'm
Speaker 1: we have a super close family. I'm one of three,
Speaker 1: my husband's one of five. We all have born and
Speaker 1: raised in LA. It was like a big deal with
Speaker 1: the families. Is that a big deal for both of
Speaker 1: you as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt and I both have very close families and
Speaker 4: both immediate and extended everybody's very close. But with this
Speaker 4: show that yeah, we introduced them to our media family.
Speaker 4: From me, it was just my siblings, which was great
Speaker 4: because I come, I'm one of six. Oh wow, so
Speaker 4: it was like, yeah.
Speaker 2: They had to pass the test.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they had to pass the test.
Speaker 2: All right, what orderary are you like, the youngest, the oldest?
Speaker 4: I'm number two, so I have an old New York
Speaker 4: than me. Then brother, sister, sister, brother?
Speaker 2: And are you the only one that works on the
Speaker 2: farm or no?
Speaker 4: Well we all go out there and you know, provide
Speaker 4: our helping hands where we can. But currently I'm the
Speaker 4: only one in Missouri right now who's like, is able
Speaker 4: to help. The other two that are in here in
Speaker 4: Saint Louis are in high school.
Speaker 1: So oh wow, Oh well, I guess because you're like
Speaker 1: twenty six and Matt, what about you?
Speaker 3: Or so my oldest brother and his wife live here
Speaker 3: on the property and they own and manage all the
Speaker 3: farming operations. So then I assist assist to them.
Speaker 2: Is that really your house where you live?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so. Is it a prefab It's actually a
Speaker 3: mobile home from the seventies. My brother and I clip
Speaker 3: houses for long time time that we remodeled this.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's really good looking. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love living here and I moved on my personal
Speaker 3: stuff out during the show, so all the girls really
Speaker 3: get to live here as it's an airbnb, right.
Speaker 1: I did notice, like I wanted to know if you
Speaker 1: guys like had some help decorating that, or if it
Speaker 1: was like if they came in and sort of helped
Speaker 1: you out, or if that's really what it looks like
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it looks looks pretty much the same.
Speaker 2: It's not a set per se, no correct.
Speaker 4: Correct, But I will say, like, for instance, this fancy
Speaker 4: looking bunk bed behind me was actually courtesy of the
Speaker 4: Fox production because the girls needed somewhere to sleep.
Speaker 2: And now what do you use it as a hat rack?
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I throw a bunch of stuff on top,
Speaker 4: and then my dog sleeps on the bottom bunk while
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in there.
Speaker 2: Your dog is Gus, right, Gus. Yeah, my youngest son
Speaker 2: is named Gus.
Speaker 4: Oh really, I love that name.
Speaker 1: We got it. I have three boys, Ace, Jewels, and Gus,
Speaker 1: and Gus is like he reminds me of like the
Speaker 1: Little Mouse and Cinderella, but he's so cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in his august, but he likes Gus. He
Speaker 2: likes to be called and we call him Gus.
Speaker 1: Gus.
Speaker 4: So that was really Mouse is named Gus too, it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they remind me of each other.
Speaker 2: Got it, John?
Speaker 4: I got it now?
Speaker 2: And so are you guys?
Speaker 1: Is it hard to go to those like you know,
Speaker 1: iHeart radio things and now like you're thrown into a
Speaker 1: completely different life.
Speaker 2: What does it feel like?
Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. It was a little overwhelming at the outset,
Speaker 4: especially in Nashville, but you know, we went from Nashville
Speaker 4: then too Los Angeles and the New York and by
Speaker 4: the end of our time in New York, we're like
Speaker 4: we've had enough, Like we've got to get back home.
Speaker 4: See the family. Take a little load off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a lot more comfortable. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I love being social, meeting people to
Speaker 3: chatting and all and stuff. So for me, this is
Speaker 3: like a fun experience. But being on the road for
Speaker 3: you know, we're going home three weeks, that part it's
Speaker 3: a little old.
Speaker 2: But wow, it's a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come back here.
Speaker 1: So I know you couldn't kiss on camera. Wait, I
Speaker 1: already forgot her name the one that said, yeah, Samantha,
Speaker 1: did you guys kiss off camera?
Speaker 4: There's a lot of speculation as to if we did
Speaker 4: that or not, and the I would tell you and.
Speaker 1: The answers, now, wow, looks like you had a big
Speaker 1: kiss yesterday.
Speaker 2: For me, you didn't kiss.
Speaker 4: Either, not on that episode.
Speaker 1: That was different in the second episode that was two
Speaker 1: different guys.
Speaker 3: No kissing for me.
Speaker 2: Now I know who it is, Coburn or Colin.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry kissing everybody?
Speaker 2: Major kiss? Do they make you, guys keep on like
Speaker 2: a girl? That's difficult?
Speaker 1: And I only say that because I'm difficult, so I
Speaker 1: just I can say that with love. But do the
Speaker 1: producers encourage you to keep on? I'm sure you can't
Speaker 1: answer this, but like do they ever say, like, keep
Speaker 1: this one on because she's good TV?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Uh, here's how I answer for the most part. And
Speaker 4: when I say the most, I mean like really like
Speaker 4: ninety nine point it's our choice, right, There is no
Speaker 4: there's no like, hey, you're forced to take this person,
Speaker 4: but like you know, you talk it through with the
Speaker 4: producers on and off screen, and like we think, like
Speaker 4: what's the best because there's a lot going through our heads.
Speaker 4: So it's nice to have the producers there to kind
Speaker 4: of help us break it down as a you know,
Speaker 4: third party, So in that sense, I guess, yeah, they
Speaker 4: help out with who we pick.
Speaker 3: But and when you do ask people to go home
Speaker 3: and all that, they're kind to help you. Like plane
Speaker 3: it somewhat like how about like later tonight at this event.
Speaker 1: Right, and especially I'm sure it's really hard to send
Speaker 1: people home. It probably feels.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, there were girls crying after meeting you
Speaker 2: for fourteen minutes. Yeah, I was like, what's going on there?
Speaker 4: God blessom? But no, it's like it's even harder because
Speaker 4: the Bachelor it's easy. You know, you have a rose ceremony,
Speaker 4: so you're like oy for you who didn't get roses, right,
Speaker 4: hit the deck. But with this you have to actually
Speaker 4: go through a breakup with every individual.
Speaker 2: Girl, and that looks brutal because it is brutal.
Speaker 1: I've never seen people do it kind of more honestly,
Speaker 1: and it's so uncomfortable because it's sadly only one poor
Speaker 1: human being who's you're being sent home and then.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is together.
Speaker 1: So I felt like that woman last night in the
Speaker 1: Shocking Pink kind of had to kind of walk the
Speaker 1: road of shame as she was dreams and I agree.
Speaker 1: But when she said that they had a good conversation,
Speaker 1: when like it was really a bizarre conversation, then I thought,
Speaker 1: like you made the right choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so sorry for those girls, but you know,
Speaker 4: i'd like you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even if you sign up for it, like
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you it feel.
Speaker 2: It is different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I have so many friends that are in
Speaker 1: the public eye, and I think to myself, like I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it, Like I just couldn't do it in
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I'm too sensitive.
Speaker 1: It would about my feelings even if you do have
Speaker 1: some things people say, and also the feeling of being misunderstood,
Speaker 1: like preconceived notions or whatever. It's like you want to
Speaker 1: explain it, but it just makes it worse.
Speaker 2: It's like, right, you know, and.
Speaker 3: There's only so much that they air too, you know
Speaker 3: that you yeah, stuff like that in small conversations or things.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it is difficult because and did.
Speaker 2: You guys become close to it two?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't really like each other that much, but
Speaker 4: I don't honestly like being on this zoom right now.
Speaker 2: Is offensive.
Speaker 1: Do you guys all get together though still or I
Speaker 1: mean you guys all live in different places.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, Like we're the first episode of this
Speaker 3: film was at a hunting ranch in Alabama and they invited
Speaker 3: those guys back to state, you know, just off camera
Speaker 3: for the weekend and have a good time.
Speaker 2: Was it during hunting season?
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, we did a little hunt out there.
Speaker 2: What were you hunting? We're birds?
Speaker 4: Well, we weren't hunting. I mean, it's one of those
Speaker 4: it's a it's an upland bird lodge and it's some
Speaker 4: of these lodges. You know, they'll they'll raise the quail
Speaker 4: and chucker and pheasant and stuff. They playing them out
Speaker 4: in the field for you to have like a you know,
Speaker 4: fun time. So that's what we did, you know, Like
Speaker 4: we didn't. We weren't out there stalking and birds and
Speaker 4: trying to hunt them down and kill them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. They don't want to. They don't
Speaker 2: want to be draged. Mom. They love animals.
Speaker 1: Wait, so tell me something, do you guys Is there
Speaker 1: a moment on the show that we haven't seen or
Speaker 1: we have seen that you guys are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wish I could do that again, or I made a
Speaker 1: mistaken Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like whatever happens is fine at this
Speaker 3: point for me at least. But I think at first,
Speaker 3: especially for us, we're not used to being on camera
Speaker 3: or have all the attention on us. So for me,
Speaker 3: if I could like start over and to do the
Speaker 3: first few episodes again with like the more confidence, I
Speaker 3: guess you could say, now, yeah, I'd like to go
Speaker 3: back in and like redo that.
Speaker 4: But I mean you.
Speaker 1: Seemed very confident, just so you know, well now you
Speaker 1: both seem very comfortable in who you are.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I love a dirty martini too, the best.
Speaker 4: I actually don't really like them dirty. I just had
Speaker 4: to do that to, you know, make the girls feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: I get the olive juice on the side and I
Speaker 1: put it in a little bit, okay, and it's really good.
Speaker 2: And so have people like been in your d M
Speaker 2: since you aired?
Speaker 4: Not at all? No, I'm kidding, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Would you say, did you say hoores?
Speaker 2: I said hordes are e? No, I thought, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna go get I did not say that
Speaker 2: it's hard.
Speaker 1: And do you feel like they're like blurting I just
Speaker 1: need to know just someone sarcastic.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's like sarcastic banter, like lightly taking jabs
Speaker 4: at the other person.
Speaker 2: There is hard to get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially, you know, like being sarcastic and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does that appeal to you guys? It appeals to John.
Speaker 2: I didn't make sense trying to get a hint.
Speaker 4: It makes it a little more casual. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: it kind of the ice a little h it breaks
Speaker 4: the ice, displays a sense of confidence and stuff. You're
Speaker 4: not like so dead focused on, you know, saying the
Speaker 4: wrong thing. You're more just like okay and.
Speaker 1: Fun not what's your ideal situation in regards to like,
Speaker 1: do you like mean flirting?
Speaker 2: Do you like just.
Speaker 3: Flirting like praise that word that John coined across the.
Speaker 2: Internet but I never heard of it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like that it's more to a degree
Speaker 3: if it's actually mean at some point, yeah, maybe not,
Speaker 3: but it's got fun teasing ye things, you know, because
Speaker 3: I like just like that in generally like to have
Speaker 3: fun and like joke around and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And when you're on these dates sometimes even in real life,
Speaker 3: and it's so like serious about your goals and like
Speaker 3: all Studdens like that, it's kind of a lot, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, well, it's like your fast forwarding. What makes
Speaker 1: it work so well? I'm sorry, so, but maybe that's
Speaker 1: what makes it so attractive from all the other reality
Speaker 1: shows that I've watched. Is maybe the fact that you
Speaker 1: are so natural and it feels like everybody else is
Speaker 1: pretty natural in front of the camera guy wise, but maybe, well,
Speaker 1: it may be why it's working so well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think honestly you can credit that to immediately
Speaker 4: us getting along so well right when we all first met,
Speaker 4: because we all met each other and were able to
Speaker 4: hang out for long periods of time before we even
Speaker 4: got a chance to sit down with these girls, so
Speaker 4: we were already somewhat coming out of our shell and
Speaker 4: being ourselves, so, you know, and shows like The Bachelor,
Speaker 4: when it's one guy, I can't imagine that he's being
Speaker 4: self right off the bat. There's nowhere And.
Speaker 1: It's also he doesn't have like that, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: have anyone to bounce anything off of. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: anybody to like go through this experience with him. I
Speaker 1: think it's nice that you guys have this common love
Speaker 1: of what you do and then also can like go
Speaker 1: through this together because it's a big culture shock.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need that camaraderie to get you through something
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 2: Have you had any interviews that you really didn't.
Speaker 4: Like, like on the show or for press?
Speaker 2: No, like for press or you know, like any really.
Speaker 3: I would say what John and I have been talking
Speaker 3: about is like a lot of the ones who've done
Speaker 3: so far are maybe a little more serious, and it's
Speaker 3: like these outline questions of like why'd you on the show,
Speaker 3: Like you know, what was your experience? Like like that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, and we like this like we just
Speaker 3: want to like talk back and forth and have like.
Speaker 1: I saw that you guys did Jen Fessler's Yeah that
Speaker 1: was fun though you also met.
Speaker 2: I met her there too.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's great.
Speaker 2: I'm a big big Housewife fan, so I was fired up.
Speaker 2: I was excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah she's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing her next week.
Speaker 4: We're exciting you are ye, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: We have a busy week. We we we really do.
Speaker 1: But this has been fun. I mean we've only my
Speaker 1: mom and I've only been doing this.
Speaker 2: Since October, so this is like brand new. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I thought this was like a well established podcast. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 4: like I'm saying, that's that's that's the type of that's
Speaker 4: how it came off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know we're well established.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry we didn't get the green memo.
Speaker 1: Also, sorry, by the way, we do not we don't
Speaker 1: even like were. We both live in la but we're
Speaker 1: not together, and we both are wearing green sweatshirts.
Speaker 2: Made by the same company, which is how you know
Speaker 2: the mother and dada. So do you guys both want kids?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: What's your timeline situation because you're both young. On the
Speaker 1: younger side, I'm older than John, but yeah, you're thirty one.
Speaker 3: My take is like I would have gotten married five
Speaker 3: years ago and start having kids if I met the
Speaker 3: right person. I do want that, but I'm willing to
Speaker 3: wait till I have the right Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, oh my god, you have to
Speaker 2: you have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather wait however long it takes and do
Speaker 3: it right than yeah, try to Russia for that reason.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want a bunch of kids up doing
Speaker 3: that whenever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what about you?
Speaker 4: Yeah this, you know, I don't want to rush into it,
Speaker 4: but you know, I don't want to also wait so long.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of you know, cousins and uncles
Speaker 4: who are you know, well past the I guess normal
Speaker 4: age of having children, and it just doesn't look that
Speaker 4: very appealing.
Speaker 1: I got to call them out and overthink it. You
Speaker 1: just can't overthink it, and you just have to keep
Speaker 1: being so natural and and have fun with it, like
Speaker 1: in real life.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: It just happens to be that a camera is on
Speaker 1: you twenty four to seven. But but the chemistry will
Speaker 1: tell you when that feeling is right. I agree with you, Matt.
Speaker 1: The best laid plans forget about it. You know, they
Speaker 1: just you think, go up and smoke, you know, but
Speaker 1: when it's right, it's right.
Speaker 2: It's I knew I was going to marry my husband
Speaker 2: on our first date. Really I knew what was Oh.
Speaker 1: I was like you knew with Rob, you knew with Dad? No,
Speaker 1: I knew with Daddy, Okay, I just I just I
Speaker 1: just knew.
Speaker 2: We talked.
Speaker 1: It was weird because well I was twenty five and
Speaker 1: he was thirty two, but so I was young. But
Speaker 1: I just knew, Like we just we talked that whole
Speaker 1: night about everything that we wanted, and it just was
Speaker 1: similar in you know what our goals were, and we
Speaker 1: actually broke up for like how long was it, mom?
Speaker 2: Like four months?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yes, when we were were dated for a year.
Speaker 1: Then we broke up for four months and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was so and then we got back together and
Speaker 1: we've been together. We've been married now for sixteen years.
Speaker 2: So a long time. But like I just knew, and
Speaker 2: I believe that to be true.
Speaker 1: I believe that most people know, like when they meet somebody,
Speaker 1: And I've never obviously done it the way you guys
Speaker 1: are doing it. But I feel like, regardless, you can
Speaker 1: kind of feel what it is right away.
Speaker 4: Definitely had you felt that before with someone else or
Speaker 4: that was the first time you had felt now.
Speaker 2: Not like that, Like I dated a ton and I
Speaker 2: had boyfriend. Shut your mouth, Oh no, wow, you're saying.
Speaker 2: And I know.
Speaker 1: I but I had I had like long term boyfriends,
Speaker 1: but this was totally different, and I was in a
Speaker 1: different place like I was, even though I mean, twenty
Speaker 1: five to me is young in LA, it's different. I
Speaker 1: feel like when you grow up in a town where
Speaker 1: like everybody's kind of trajectory.
Speaker 2: As you go to school, you kind of stay where
Speaker 2: you are and you get married.
Speaker 1: It was very different, but I just knew and I
Speaker 1: knew that it was different immediately, and it was.
Speaker 2: It's the best decision.
Speaker 1: I've ever made, and I'm excited for you guys. It
Speaker 1: kind of if you feel my experiences, you feel like
Speaker 1: you're home. You know, there's someone you meet and it
Speaker 1: kind of clicks, and so you're not like checking off
Speaker 1: a list because first it's the chemistry, but but there
Speaker 1: is this feeling of coziness and comfort in your stomach
Speaker 1: that just you know, it's important. It's important to just
Speaker 1: feel that comfort level. You know, had you, guys, ever
Speaker 1: met somebody, dated somebody long term before that you thought
Speaker 1: you were going to marry before coming on this show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Matt, you said you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right on the show longer term relationships and somewhere
Speaker 3: I thought it could be pretty serious, but it was
Speaker 3: like more of an attraction thing, like a lot of chemistry,
Speaker 3: but then like everything else wasn't right, and it's like
Speaker 3: you're trying to make it work, but you kind of
Speaker 3: just you know, you kind of know in your head,
Speaker 3: you're like if I don't know, like I really like
Speaker 3: this person, but it's not it's not easy, you know,
Speaker 3: It's like it should be. You have to work towards anything,
Speaker 3: but it shouldn't have to be like this uphill battle
Speaker 3: on everything the experience I've had, Yeah, and then I
Speaker 3: look at my parents have been married for like forty
Speaker 3: six years and my grandparents in the line, and it
Speaker 3: just wasn't like that. You know, It's like, yeah, there's problems,
Speaker 3: you got to work stuff out and this and that,
Speaker 3: but you you know, it should be like a no brainer.
Speaker 3: Should just also kind of work.
Speaker 1: To mom, You're going to be married forty seven years
Speaker 1: this year, right, yes, yes, yeah, hard to believe.
Speaker 4: Congrats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard for me to believe. But but it's
Speaker 1: it's great and it's true there are always issues, but
Speaker 1: the key is if you can get through it, if
Speaker 1: you like each other, if you respect each other, and
Speaker 1: you can, you know, get through and you do, and
Speaker 1: but it has to be, you know, worth it for
Speaker 1: the long haul.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Right, What about if you have differing beliefs on certain things.
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever experienced that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That we I I'm sorry Zoe, that I did. With
Speaker 1: Henry because he was raised in a very strict family,
Speaker 1: He's raised an abusive household, abusive to, but verbally abusive.
Speaker 2: And very Germanic, and that means german. It is. It
Speaker 2: is really.
Speaker 1: Easier if you have more in common. I mean that
Speaker 1: just is the truth. It's easier if you were raised similarly,
Speaker 1: if you have similar values. I think that's important because again,
Speaker 1: there are so many things and life it's so crazy
Speaker 1: that if you have like a mutual understanding or feeling
Speaker 1: about the most important values. I don't think I think
Speaker 1: if you meet someone, that feels great, but you are
Speaker 1: so totally different from the get go, I don't think
Speaker 1: that that.
Speaker 2: No. I mean I think that feels at the.
Speaker 1: Core, like my husband's super outdoorsy, I am not, and
Speaker 1: I was who I was.
Speaker 2: Those kinds of things you can overcome. But the main things,
Speaker 2: the most important things, and especially when you have kids,
Speaker 2: it just gets so much harder because it's the best.
Speaker 2: But it's also like you're responsible for these human beings
Speaker 2: and you want to be the best you can be
Speaker 2: for them. And also I think the most important thing
Speaker 2: in a relationship is to continue working on it. Like
Speaker 2: we work really hard to just be like the best people,
Speaker 2: and we talk and we have hard conversations and I
Speaker 2: am not.
Speaker 1: I know that, and I you know, work really hard
Speaker 1: on being able to hear what he's saying and not
Speaker 1: get defensive. And you know, like I think it's important
Speaker 1: to have the same core values, but you can have
Speaker 1: different interests, you know, like I don't think like that matters.
Speaker 1: Like I don't ever want to go see The Grateful Dead.
Speaker 1: He is going three times in the next three months.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I have the best time. I love
Speaker 1: you so much. Never will I be there. So it's
Speaker 1: like those kinds of things I think are fine, but
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard if you don't have like
Speaker 1: the same core beliefs.
Speaker 2: I just think that that's difficult.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the one of the things we talked
Speaker 4: about a lot on the show is because you know,
Speaker 4: we went through a whole matchmaking phase before if we
Speaker 4: start filming, and we talked about these very core beliefs
Speaker 4: that we all believed in. Like for me, it was
Speaker 4: faith and family and hard work and you know, taking.
Speaker 2: Care of you. You want to Jewish, right, you're Jewish.
Speaker 4: Just kidding, nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2: I'm just not go on, sweetheart, we get it. Go on.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we talked about that stuff. On the show
Speaker 4: because then you meet these girls and of course they
Speaker 4: all have the same core values because that's basically how
Speaker 4: you were match made. But then it just comes down
Speaker 4: to figure out your interests.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, by the way.
Speaker 1: Were any of them Do any of them completely opposite
Speaker 1: of you?
Speaker 2: Did they?
Speaker 1: Did? They put in some women maybe that you guys
Speaker 1: had different core beliefs.
Speaker 4: Uh different ring I wouldn't say different, but yeah, definitely right.
Speaker 3: That's just life too.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna yeah, no, one don't want that.
Speaker 1: You don't want somebody that completely I think, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't want somebody that's just gonna be exactly you, because
Speaker 1: that's not fun.
Speaker 4: Exactly you know. Yeah, that's one of the things I
Speaker 4: talked about too, is I had a past relationship where
Speaker 4: the person was exactly like me and it got dull quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You want someone to challenge you, and you want it
Speaker 1: to be fun and you want to step outside your
Speaker 1: comfort r.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I've been with yourself for twenty six years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you guys get married on the show. Is
Speaker 1: it like a wedding or no?
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't know how they do this because
Speaker 4: he's only been here for three seasons. But if I
Speaker 4: don't know, potentially down the line, if one of us
Speaker 4: were to marry the person we chose, maybe they'd cover it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Have the other people and the last
Speaker 1: two seasons.
Speaker 2: Gone on to be a couple.
Speaker 3: I know from last season there's two out of the
Speaker 3: four guys are still with their girls.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about season one. Not married, but they're
Speaker 3: still together and we've met them a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's like that's a two out of four
Speaker 2: is really good. Yeah, and I hope The Bachelor does
Speaker 2: not have that grade of a success.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's a whole nother ball game.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Love is Blind only got one couple. I watched it
Speaker 1: on the whole way back for Hawaii week.
Speaker 4: That show is insane, I don't know, insane.
Speaker 1: Insane, and they I mean, they should do like a
Speaker 1: sociological experiment on the people that go on that show,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, what the fuck is happening? But
Speaker 1: I think this felt so different, Like it just the
Speaker 1: show just feels different. You guys are so likable, and
Speaker 1: to be honest, I was not thinking that I was
Speaker 1: going to enjoy the show as much as I did,
Speaker 1: and I loved it and I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: third episode. Also, Kimberly, I met her when she was
Speaker 1: at Northwestern.
Speaker 2: Oh the host.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, Kimberly, No, Kimberly Williams Paisley. She
Speaker 1: sets the tone and she is incredible. She I met
Speaker 1: her because she was going with a young boy that
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Very close to. What did she date?
Speaker 1: She was dating John, the boy who was so sick
Speaker 1: and died.
Speaker 2: Way to go. Thanks mom, No, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry, but she but she was he's dead and she
Speaker 1: had such good values and she came over to our
Speaker 1: house with them with h my.
Speaker 2: Best friend's parents made father of the bride.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we met her Annie and Allie so we
Speaker 1: met her that way too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was lovely. We got to hang out with
Speaker 3: her off camera. Get amount. We've seen her on this
Speaker 3: press stuff and all that, and she's very sweet.
Speaker 1: She's good and she here's what she is solid And
Speaker 1: I think you want someone solid. And don't shake your
Speaker 1: head at me. You asked who it was so I
Speaker 1: had I'm not My head is straight, completely not moving.
Speaker 3: One of your guys family events, you.
Speaker 2: Guys to come to dinner to La.
Speaker 1: Come to La and come you're welcome. We would have
Speaker 1: room at our table and yeah, you guys have to
Speaker 1: come over.
Speaker 2: This would be fun fun.
Speaker 4: I could bring some corn wheat and soybeans and Max, yes,
Speaker 4: bring some avocados and finger lines.
Speaker 1: My son's into passion fruit, which one indie, Oh great,
Speaker 1: you had a surgery and she couldn't eat. I said
Speaker 1: what would you like and she said, I'd like a
Speaker 1: smoothie And I.
Speaker 2: Said, oh fabulous.
Speaker 1: What blueberry strawberry passion fruit? WHOA that puts me up
Speaker 1: a tree?
Speaker 2: Do we see them outside?
Speaker 3: Is actually passion right here?
Speaker 2: This this, and I love the drag and fruit.
Speaker 1: Also, we had that in Thailand, so beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I'll send you guys a box
Speaker 3: of produce.
Speaker 2: I agree. My son, my thirteen year old, wants to
Speaker 2: be a chef today.
Speaker 1: Actually it's still spring break and we were away for
Speaker 1: a week and we're home and he wants to make
Speaker 1: beef Wellington today.
Speaker 2: So I took him to the market this morning. Curiously
Speaker 2: before No, he's.
Speaker 1: Never done it before, so he's just trying it. We
Speaker 1: went to the butcher and he I was you know,
Speaker 1: he did the whole thing. So we'll see he's getting
Speaker 1: it right now in everything. Huh yeah, crusted. He already
Speaker 1: chopped up all the mushrooms he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We sit down to dinner every night except for Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 1: and on Sundays. We do family dinner like we're a
Speaker 1: whole family, and so that's really important. My husband is
Speaker 1: in construction. He owns a contracting company, so he leaves
Speaker 1: too brilliant in the morning and he's home for dinner.
Speaker 1: And it's great. And Ace and Ice, my oldest we
Speaker 1: cooked together and it's really fun.
Speaker 2: And you were raised that way. I was. We ate
Speaker 2: dinner together. There was a chef, a real chef, but yes,
Speaker 2: I was. By the way, it was great. I learned
Speaker 2: how to cook. I learn from me too, Yes I did.
Speaker 2: Actually she's an amazing cook.
Speaker 1: But when you guys come, the cheff will cook.
Speaker 3: It is really coming together.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. I mean really, saw and Vile. Well, guys,
Speaker 2: this was great. Oh wait, I want to ask one
Speaker 2: more question.
Speaker 1: What did you think Was there a lot of tension
Speaker 1: between the girls and was that uncomfortable?
Speaker 2: Sometimes?
Speaker 3: Yes? And no, wow for me, my girls overall got
Speaker 3: along very well. They're all still friends for the most
Speaker 3: part in stay communication. So that was really cool because
Speaker 3: not only do I want to find some but I
Speaker 3: wanted them to enjoy their time here. They're living in
Speaker 3: my house, around my family and our ranch. Like, even
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out with us, I still want
Speaker 3: it's a good time here. And they really did have fun.
Speaker 3: They were doing yoga outside every morning and drinking wine
Speaker 3: in the evenings. They're shopping on their days off. Like
Speaker 3: they had a great time.
Speaker 1: Any Way, sounds like I should go on the show yoga,
Speaker 1: wine and shopping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but of course, you know, when there's that many
Speaker 3: women in one household and they're trying to together, there
Speaker 3: was issues that arose.
Speaker 1: I saw them last night, especially with your gals.
Speaker 2: John.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, funny enough is like we literally have a
Speaker 4: group chat at me and all of them. So it's
Speaker 4: like whatever happened on the show is definitely didn't lead
Speaker 4: into real life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like in the moment, it just feels emotional
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 4: Moment, I know, I can tell you that, Like I
Speaker 4: didn't experience any of it firsthand, but I think there
Speaker 4: were some you know, pretty feisty brawls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, girls are tough.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, that would be horrible, like to all date
Speaker 1: the same person.
Speaker 2: I would be so confused.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of one on you know, runs
Speaker 3: away from home and tired and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, living in a bunk bed by the way, that
Speaker 1: would be the worst part.
Speaker 4: This thing like crazy, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: Very cute. I like it. We'll get you on, mom,
Speaker 2: We'll get you one.
Speaker 1: All be ready, you guys, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us.
Speaker 2: We're so grateful.
Speaker 1: Please please please DM me when you come to La
Speaker 1: and we will have you guys over for dinner.
Speaker 3: And you're always welcome here at Moro Bed. When to
Speaker 3: come for a little ranch tour.
Speaker 2: I would love it. I would love to bring my Kids'
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Your kids would love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got three nephews.
Speaker 2: So I saw.
Speaker 1: I was looking at your Instagram page, thank you. I
Speaker 1: was looking at both of yours and that, guys, are
Speaker 1: that house in outside of Saint Louis. That's some ranch house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: colonial house.
Speaker 4: It's worked pretty hard. In full disclosure, I saw like
Speaker 4: a TikTok that's all over. This house was built in
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight. I don't know if people are
Speaker 4: just thinking that it's.
Speaker 2: You know, not not as opposed to what what are they.
Speaker 3: Thinking from the seventeen Oh my god, everyone.
Speaker 2: Just needs to get a life. Were good. It's a
Speaker 2: beautiful house.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful house, and I would be very happy
Speaker 1: in it, and so will one of the ladies.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, I know that John has an interview,
Speaker 2: so we have to jump off because he's a very
Speaker 2: busy man.
Speaker 1: John and out John and matter in the hand, So
Speaker 1: we gotta go and go.
Speaker 4: Okay, so much for having us.
Speaker 1: Seriously, thank you guys so much. I hope we get
Speaker 1: to see you soon.
Speaker 3: Great speak with.
Speaker 1: You, and we'll be watching on Friday, I mean on
Speaker 1: Thursday Thursdays at eight central.
Speaker 2: Eight central on Fox and Hulu. I watched it on Hulu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who is better because you have to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just watch it on Hulu. It's so good, yeah,
Speaker 1: really great.
Speaker 2: All right, guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, ye bye, Oh my gosh. That was literally heaven
Speaker 1: on Earth. My mom and I could not stop talking
Speaker 1: to them, and I'm leaving right now for more, obey,
Speaker 1: and I will then be going on to Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: So I hope Mom, you'll take care of my family. No,
Speaker 1: I'll be with you and okay, you guys, please watch
Speaker 1: Farmer Wants a Wife Thursdays on Fox at nine eighth
Speaker 1: Central and the next day on Hulu.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to another episode of What in the Winkler.
Speaker 2: We'll see you soon. Bye,