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Speaker 1: Sleeper or pretender. Let's talk to the pros. Welcome in

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Speaker 1: everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast

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Speaker 1: as me Joey P Joe Pisapia, and today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about sleepers. That's right. We've got ten very popular

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Speaker 1: buzzy names of sleepers in the fantasy baseball community right now,

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about for different reasons.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk to Welsh here and figure out

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Speaker 1: whether or not we're sleeping with these guys or maybe

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Speaker 1: we're going away from them. I don't know. That's a

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Speaker 1: weird way to phrase it now that we're amore No,

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Speaker 1: I guess not. But anyway, jokes aside, ha ha. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about these sleepers. We're gonna talk about whether

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need more baseball? Go get more? Yes, Welsh,

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Speaker 1: what do you got?

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Speaker 2: How much? How much was it?

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Speaker 1: Again? It was free? Free? I know, I can't believe it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Your Welsh and I come over, we do a private

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Speaker 1: session with you. We get your focused for we get

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Speaker 1: you pumped up for the for the actual draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a whole big thing we do.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you and I went to like

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Speaker 2: someone's house and we're drafting. Can you imagine the chaos

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Speaker 2: that person with them?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, great, you know, it's like the Angel

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Speaker 1: and devil on the other side of the people you

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you them, don't take this guy.

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Speaker 2: God opens up. We're just like, hey, everybody would make

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Speaker 2: ourselves at home. We're getting in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably what we would get. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: We're used to that. That's what our families say too.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to the sleepers. Let's talk about these

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Speaker 1: guys that are out there. And let's start with a

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Speaker 1: guy who, ironically, you know, he's in the top fifty,

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Speaker 1: is right at fifty in the ADP, but he is

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Speaker 1: considered a sleeper right now. He's actually somebody I drafted.

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Speaker 1: If you saw the first draft show we've done already

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Speaker 1: of the season, we just did it earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: The worm Ryan Warmley joined us for that show. But

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, this guy had thirty home runs

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Speaker 1: at one hundred and six, where he's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eight runs scored. He was a highly coveted player. He's

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Speaker 1: Ozzie Albi's second basement of the Atlanta Braves. Now I

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Speaker 1: do believe he's being slightly undervalued. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: young player too by all accounts last year obviously played

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Speaker 1: just sixty four games, but Welsh he is just around

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Speaker 1: you're getting in a discount. So what do you think

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Speaker 1: of starting this off with Ozzie Alby's Do you think

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Speaker 2: I think he qualifies as a sleeper because I mean,

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Speaker 2: and this is why people are doing it, because he's

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Speaker 2: his ADPs round fifty right now and he's clumped in

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Speaker 2: The idea is that if he's a twenty twenty guy,

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Speaker 2: Ozzi Albi's could be the very top second baseman in

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Speaker 2: a really bad group of those players. So when you

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Speaker 2: many of these guys have the opportunity to potentially return

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Speaker 2: Ozzi Albi's was the first round pick, very popular first

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Speaker 1: The wheel, like a guy like pretty much at the

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Speaker 1: mean that's tremendous value there still. I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: got another guy here in the list who's going right

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Speaker 1: around here, Corey Seeger at fifty five. His ADP has

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Speaker 1: way up to forty nine, if you can believe it.

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Speaker 1: But Corey Seeger, you know, to me, I wasn't surprised

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Speaker 1: at all that the you know, the Corey Seeger first

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Speaker 1: What was interesting about Corey Seger though, was that, you know,

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Speaker 1: And if you pay attention to all these deep metrics

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Speaker 1: is Corey Seeger a quote unquote sleeper still because just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting you wrap the shft because that's

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Speaker 2: any by any of me. I mean thirty three homers

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Speaker 1: July and August got really hot and then just the

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Speaker 2: And sometimes these guys are like that. Sometimes they're just

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Speaker 2: on top of it, is going to take a huge

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Speaker 2: benefit on the shift. Corey Seeger doesn't have the stolen

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Speaker 2: going to put up a two seventy two eighty average

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Speaker 2: But if you get four cat, if you get three

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Speaker 2: bummer is that he's boosting up. I mean literally when

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Speaker 2: the sleeper goes. The more that he moves up, the

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Speaker 2: not the biggest Albi's as a sleeper, but I am

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Speaker 2: a Corey Seeger as a sleeper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. This is like the ADP that I'm

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Speaker 1: not buying, right, I bet you dollars to doughnuts whatever

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Speaker 1: that means that you are going to get Corey Seeger

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Speaker 1: slipping in drafts. I think a little bit past this

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Speaker 1: some people that are just a little hesitant, or they'll

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Speaker 1: be reaching for outfield or reaching for pitching. I think

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Speaker 1: we're in those actual drafts. I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: seen them as worse as seventy, best as twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, and one of the reasons behind that, too, is

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Speaker 2: because this position is so deep. You just did a

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Speaker 2: fifteen team mock on in this league, and we were

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Speaker 2: past one hundred and you still had Wander Franco Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Pania still out there the mock that we did right

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Speaker 2: here in Fantasy Pros, you guys can go and check

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Speaker 2: out I've got wan A Franco at one fifteen. The

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Speaker 2: position is so deep that I don't think people feel

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Speaker 2: the need to jump in. Who are the guys that

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Speaker 2: you feel the need to jump up on, guys that

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Speaker 2: also give you those stolen bases. Oneil Cruz I think

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Speaker 2: you can take care of your stolen bases in other spots,

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Speaker 2: which is totally doable this year, Corey Seeger falling backwards, it's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be a huge value Onnel Cruz at eighty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a guy. I'm just not in on

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Speaker 2: these rookies will in general, once they're confirmed. Everyone's just

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Speaker 2: a little bit nervous. So Miguel Vargas this is a

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Speaker 2: little bit more of a mean one, Joe, But I

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Speaker 2: think he is a sleeper here, especially on his current ADP.

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Speaker 1: Storry Ruiz at three seventeen that this is the guy

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Speaker 1: who's kind of blocked in that Padre system. Now with Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: do you see a clearer path for him to I

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Speaker 1: guess return to this sleeper status that people want to

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Speaker 1: put on him.

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Speaker 2: Well, the sleeper status is all about the stolen bases.

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Speaker 2: That's about it. The Oakland A's are maybe the most

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Speaker 2: embarrassing roster to look at. It's really it's it's bad

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Speaker 2: for baseball, it's embarrassing, But for fantasy players, it breeds

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Speaker 2: opportunity and cheap opportunity because who wants to a who like,

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Speaker 2: name a A that you want? There is none, there's none

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Speaker 2: that you actually want to maybe rumin Lariano. That's like

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Speaker 2: past one to fifty as Stury's got the ability to

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Speaker 2: lead the league in stolen bases, and he's also got

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Speaker 2: the ability to potentially lead off for this team. So

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Speaker 2: that's why he's such a sleeper for late round stolen bases.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I buy it so much, but

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Speaker 2: guess what are they going to give up any early

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Speaker 2: and they they need to manufacturer runs. Yes, all of

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Speaker 2: those first no, and then yes, they're not going to

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Speaker 2: give up on him early. Yes, he needed manufacturer runs.

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Speaker 2: So he's a sleeper for stolen bases. I don't get

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Speaker 2: super excited because I don't like to hedge my bet

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Speaker 2: on like super late dudes that get you stolen base.

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Speaker 2: I want even players that do well things, not a

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Speaker 2: one trick pony. And that's what I think he is.

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Speaker 1: All right, Will Myers seems like a perpetual sleeper every

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Speaker 1: single year. If only gets to be healthy, if if

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Speaker 1: if Will Myers, if if this oh career has been

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Speaker 1: if three twenty eight is the current adp right here

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Speaker 1: for Will Myers. So let's talk about him in terms

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Speaker 1: of your thoughts. Do you think that being in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: this year makes him a sleeper that is truly sleeper

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Speaker 1: worthy of investment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if some candy's and nuts, we'd all have a

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Speaker 2: merry Christmas. That is what Michael Clark Duncan said to us.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm in on Will Myers. I think it's

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Speaker 2: simply the team context. He's going to be given opportunity.

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Speaker 2: There is a growing sense of people that I think, actually,

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Speaker 2: you're kind of liking Jake Freeley, so I want to

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Speaker 2: throw that out as well, that one of those guys

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Speaker 2: would pop. But Cincinnati we saw it with Brandon Drury

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Speaker 2: this past year. Will Myers should actually be one of

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Speaker 2: the team leaders on there. And outfield really stinks and

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Speaker 2: he qualifies at outfield, so that's one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: reasons behind it. You might get twenty plus homers, and

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are building that in

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Speaker 2: for that. Really just again, this is kind of like

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Speaker 2: the age. It's not a good team, it's not a

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Speaker 2: great team context, but he's a great ballpark to hit

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Speaker 2: in and Will Myers has stolen some bases before, has

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Speaker 2: twenty power potential pop. So if he stays healthy and

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Speaker 2: he goes this is why he's a sleeper, and he

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Speaker 2: is down on every single drafting format. Everywhere you play,

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Speaker 2: he's way down the list and you can sneak up

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Speaker 2: for it is your fifth outfielder. He's absolutely free all right.

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Speaker 1: Last two guys here, James Outman of the Dodgers at

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Speaker 1: three seventy one, the ADP Michael Massey at four seventy one.

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Speaker 1: Massy to me is very interesting especially in terms of

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Speaker 1: playing time potential like a swing like the lefty bat,

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Speaker 1: second base is open for him. There talk about Outman

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Speaker 1: and Macy, these two guys here, one for Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: obviously altmen for the Dodgers, and what their impact and

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Speaker 1: be in some of these deeper leagues when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the deeper sleepers, do these guys qualify in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they both qualify for it. So James

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Speaker 2: Outman is interesting because this is a Dodger. It's actually

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Speaker 2: baffling to me. I gotta be honest with you. I

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Speaker 2: am shocked that the Dodgers are really showing the comfort

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Speaker 2: level of going in with their outfield of James Outman

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Speaker 2: and Trace Thompson that's Klay Thompson's brother. They would be

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Speaker 2: willing to go into the year with these guys. Autman

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Speaker 2: hit the ball pretty hard. He struck out a ton,

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Speaker 2: but it's fifteen plus power, maybe ten plus stolen base

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Speaker 2: if they give him. This is one of the situations,

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Speaker 2: this is opportunity. If James Outman is actually going to

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Speaker 2: be a starting outfielder, He's going to hit eight or

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Speaker 2: seven or something for the Dodgers. But in that lineup.

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Speaker 2: In general, you're just spattered with great players across the

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Speaker 2: board that there's going to be running RBI opportunities. So

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Speaker 2: if you're inn every outfield for the Dodgers, that's better

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Speaker 2: than probably the second outfielder for the Colorado Rockies. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's weird to say. So this is

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Speaker 2: about the opportunity that outman would get. Plus he has

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Speaker 2: shown the ball. He's shown the ability to, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of strike on the ball, kind of like actually

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Speaker 2: a large new par He's.

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Speaker 1: Actually he strikes on the ball. He also strikes out.

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Speaker 1: He's the perfect draft. You have a good April May

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Speaker 1: where he's read hot before he gets figured out. You

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Speaker 1: trade him about him about real quick.

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, strike out right and everything. But I would

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Speaker 2: call Outman like Walgreen's large new bar. Michael Massey is

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Speaker 2: way down the list, like four hundreds, but he's the

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Speaker 2: last pick in a lot of places because it looks

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Speaker 2: like he's been given the job. Actually, just got some

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Speaker 2: video from a friend that was at a batting session

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Speaker 2: where he was. He looks kind of jacked and he

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Speaker 2: looks like he's going to be given this overall gig

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Speaker 2: with the Royals, and this is just a back to

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Speaker 2: kind of opportunity. He's power speed under two hundred plate appearances,

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Speaker 2: he had a Cup, four homers, three stolen bases, batting

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Speaker 2: average around two forty three. Might move up in the lineup,

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Speaker 2: maybe they can hit him two, makes really good contact.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a team that is still

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Speaker 2: going to run. And I think Massey has the potential

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Speaker 2: to get fifteen plus stolen bases this year. And again

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Speaker 2: you're just looking sometimes to fill out a spot. Second

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Speaker 2: base stinks and you can get him post four hundred

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Speaker 2: right now. Michael Massey, especially in deeper, deeper leagues or

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Speaker 2: NFBC date based stuff, is definitely a sleeper.

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