WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Fake Or For Real? 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:08.080 This he is talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:16.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at play No. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.279 Your hosts, Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.120 Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.440 I'm Taylor, joined by Brian, Rob and Mickey. As we 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.440 get going on this Tuesday at the Star and Frisco. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.640 Of course, the Cowboys are coming off a big win 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.720 against the Kansas City Chiefs and looking ahead to the 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:46.120 Atlanta Falcons this weekend. But how is everyone doing today? Fantastic? Yeah, right, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.879 a roll always fantastic. Yeah, yeah, this is not the 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.440 fan as the tours sometimes think it is. Stallas Cowboys 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.920 dot Com. Yeah, yes, Gray roll. Yeah, a little peak 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.959 of Atlanta arrest of the Metropechs not doing so well 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.520 all this morning. I know. It's kind of sad to 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.600 hear about some things at TCU and then on thirty five, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.319 Yeah yeah, thank god it was fake. Who walks? Who 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.840 has a fake grenade in their car? I don't like 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.920 a toy like a plastic Very interesting people. It's the 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.920 world today, Mick. Yeah, and sadly it is, but that's 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.880 why we bring you an hour of Cowboys News for 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.319 you to escape and just remember the good times, like 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.600 the three game wins. Streaking there you go, yes, and 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.360 of course the Cowboys are getting that win. But now 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.680 looking at different injuries they sustained on Sunday, Tyren Smith 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.560 headlining that one and talking about maybe being questionable for Sunday, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.840 is that, yeah, we're hearing. I would think at this 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.960 point that's a probably a safe term. So of course 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.920 Chad's Green would replace him. How do you guys feel 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.680 about that? Well, Chad's Green and then also barn Bell. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.760 I mean, Barron Bell has been a healthy scratch, but 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.520 they've gone they split reps during practice. Okay, so we'll see. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.800 You know, I always talk about competition, but it looks 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.200 like that they've kind of kept Chaz Green in his 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.360 position to make that start he was. He came in 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.520 the game the other day, so they obviously feel pretty 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.680 good about him. But you know, when he's had to 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.680 make starts, Chaz Green hasn't been bad. Yeah, and especially 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.880 at tackle, there's been a couple of different times where 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.600 he's had to step in. You might feel like though 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.440 a training camp and preseason games and stuff. He's been 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.519 pretty bad. The only real real knock on Chaz Green 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.000 is the fact that he can't stay healthy. Other than that, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.200 you have a pretty good, uh, you know, offensive lineman there. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.959 I need to get into Atlanta's defense this afternoon and see, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.239 you know the matchups. You know, I'm sure he's gonna 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.080 have to deal with guys with Vic Beasley's I know, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.960 a guy that has had a bunch of sacks and 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.200 Brooks read guys like that. So well, we'll see how 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.560 that all plays out. If he has to go. Tyrn Smith, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.920 as we've all known, is very tough, resilient, you know, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.840 and if he can go, he can go and h 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.799 but we'll we'll need to see. It's a pretty pretty 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.560 interesting injury for an offensive lineman. Yeah, yeah, well he's 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.640 chats got what six game plays in the game the 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.120 other day, so I mean they're trying to wind the 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.120 clock down there, so it's hard to judge. But yeah, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.280 I mean May two starts last year did a nice 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.240 job Byron Bell. I guess could be an option there 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.080 if they split reps during the week. I wonder if 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.040 Tyron's a guy that could just not practice during the 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.600 week and still play. Absolutely, yeah, he does. He's part 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.000 of that hard I thought, hard and fast rule for players, 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.080 especially veterans. I think you could get away doing that 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.760 with offensive lineman, I really do, more so than other position. Absolutely. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.600 I just feel like there's there's there's things that there's 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.480 certain plays that they're going to run in the game 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.720 plan that he knows. Runner pass. I mean, he's okay, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.640 I know that's a pass, it's technique. Okay, it's run. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.600 Like when we're talk about Zeke the other day, Okay, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.680 how do you fit in the blitz pickup stuff? That's 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.840 a little bit different, you know, when you start talking 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.560 about players wide receivers too as well, Okay, this is 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.000 the play, this is your route, but they have to 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.080 rep that stuff. I think offensive linemen are a little 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.840 bit more customed to go in in there, down after 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.040 down after down, and so if you take him out 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.960 of that, though, there's they could still have that down 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:09.040 after down mentality. I don't think. I think him not practicing, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.160 you know, would would be fine. I really really do. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.120 Now they want him to practice, but they of course, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.320 but you know, if he didn't have any practice, I 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.320 would not feel one bit hesitant to put him out 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.720 there on that field, just because I know that if 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.279 they say, okay, we're gonna run this running play, he 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.080 would know what to do, or they're going to run 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.120 this past play that he would know how to block it. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.120 There's a handful of guys on this team that put 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.599 him out there. Yeah, you expect they'd be ready to 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.560 go sea. He's in that boats and if he can't. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.960 I mean this to me was the master plan right 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.480 absolutely screen. It was supposed to be the swing backup tackle. Yeah, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.120 let's go with the plan. You know, the same thing 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.200 like we discussed with the running backs of Zeke woodn't there. Well, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.200 this was the plan, So go with it. You can't 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.080 sit here and go, oh no, what do I do now? 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:02.800 Because that's the decision you made ten twelve weeks ago. Yeah, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.200 it's you know, and again need to get into Atlanta's 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.400 defense on the rush. But the next three weeks, if 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.120 you think about it, though, you're planning to get some 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.520 teams that can bring some heat, you know, with with 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.080 like you know, whether we'll see again about the Falcon Rushers, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.640 but clearly the Eagles and then talk about the Los 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:24.000 Angeles Chargers. You know, Yeah, Ingram and Bosa. So yeah, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.839 those are you know, you hopefully you get Smith back 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.479 in a timely fashion so you don't have to go 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.760 through those waters of having to deal with those teams 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.400 on the on the on the outside. Yeah, a lot 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.760 of people are circling this weekend as the game that 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.400 Cheeto A Woozier could be back. Of course, he's missed 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.960 five of the six games so far. Yes, yeah, so yeah, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.279 I think the thing with the Woozier is, Okay, where 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.599 does he fit? You know, what are they they? Obviously 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.000 they had him at Safety and Green Bay. You know, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.520 they did a pretty good job of coverage last week 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.400 with the guys they have. Okay, who you know is 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.000 has been Wickery the one that comes off the field. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.720 Now that you've been Wickery as a guy in primarily 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.600 and special team stuff. He did pretty good as special 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.599 teams at Washington. Yeah, so you know that's coaches sometimes 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.599 get comfortable with the guys not Sometimes a lot of 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.240 times get comfortable with the guys they have, and especially 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.360 if they're riding a pretty good hand where they're stopping people, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.640 all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well let's let's 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.760 just keep playing with the guys we've got, even though 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.120 you want to see a woozy a play, you know, 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.960 at whose expense? And I think it could be at 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.080 Ben Wickery's expense if they go that round. Yeah, is 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.400 it a little different because he's a second round draft pick? 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.360 And oh no, absolutely, you really have something invested in him. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.800 I mean, Taco is active every week. But but you 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.240 need to win games, obviously, Yeah, you need you need 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.240 to win games. I think that's the thing about it, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.720 is if you're a team that if you're a team 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.159 that was three and six at this time, you know, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.080 you say, you know, you're not just trotting a guy out. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.920 you're trying to think, Okay, who can help us play? 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.640 Is is if we activate him, is he going to 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.640 be healthy enough to play? That's the thing that you 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.400 have to know about because you got in the Green 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:05.039 Bay game and obviously four five snaps he wasn't healthy 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.200 enough to play, and now you're down a man, you know, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.480 so that those are always things that kind of creep 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.520 into your mind when you're thinking about and I think 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.600 that's what they've taken so long with him. Yeah, and 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.080 if they have to take another week, they'll be it. Yeah, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.040 And I think the other thing you have to consider 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.960 when he comes back is his volume. How how much 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.080 do you want him to play? Right? Because they were 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.840 having him play defense, he was playing all the special 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.760 teams this is true. How can he do both or 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.680 you just do part of it? Right? And is he 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:37.239 more important than a sixth wide receiver or an extra 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.200 defensive lineman right? I think those things will all come 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.760 in to play because Ben Rickery's best basically just been 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.160 a special that's always done, that's always done. Do you 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.760 want Chitta Bay to be the special teams guy and 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.120 just do that and keep your defense the way it was? 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.320 You know, I think they have to make decisions. We 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.320 always thought it would be good to have him in 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.840 the slot and scan Drick in the slot when they 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.920 went dime and leave By and Jones in the back 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.600 instead of bringing in Cavan Frasier. Uh, they can still 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.000 bring in the Xavier Woods. They were kind of sharing 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.280 snaps with Jeff Heath back there and the change up defenses. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.840 So yeah, you know, if he can play in there, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.840 he's awfully good. I think playing in that dime in 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.880 the swat, it's another guy that can cover, you know, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.880 The one thing I've kind of learned about Woods is 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.920 he can cover. I don't know how well he tackles. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.559 That's that's the thing I think. I worry about him. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.400 And I love the fact that they're playing him out there, 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.480 and I love the way he covers, and I love 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.440 the way he sees the ball and drives on the ball. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.439 But again, you need as many guys in the field 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.560 that can cover. You know, Atlanta's just watching their team 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.560 this morning. I know we'll get into it a couple 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.880 of days. But see, it's a it's a team that 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.920 has big, wide receivers that don't run great, so you 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.480 can match up. You better be ready for a physical 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.520 game on the outside. They got physical tight ends to 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.000 running up the field, so that's going to be It's 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.800 not so much about the speed with the Falcons. It's 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 more about can you handle the physicality that they have 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.839 on the outside with the receivers. I's tackled by Woods 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:04.720 on the opening quarter, the drive third, Yeah, off the field. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.920 That that was the progress from him. Yeah, I've just 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.560 I could say the inconsistency at certain times bothers me 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.280 with him. Yeah, you know, but that's again we'll have 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.480 to see how that plays out. Now. Of course, coach 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.400 Garrett informed everyone that yes, Brian Price will be moving 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.079 to IR with the surgery that he is going to have. Now, 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.600 looking at the defensive tackle position, what do you guys 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.720 think you are the next steps here for the team, Well, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.240 they got to replace him with somebody, and Lewis Neil 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.640 comes to mind. He's the only defensive lineman they have 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.120 on the practice squad. Now they could they could look 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.680 outside the team if they want to go a veteran guy, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.840 one technique type player, I think is what they're probably thinking. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.000 As this morning, I didn't. I didn't hear any new names. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.680 Usually tuesdays a day where you get workouts that come 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.560 in and stuff like that. So if they have to 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.280 make that move, which they will, I think they're also 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.560 waiting to see what's going on with Zeke's situation. But 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.240 that's a late in the week kind of thing. If 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.400 they make these moves, I think, adding it will be late. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.880 You know they're gonna they're gonna practice with these guys 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.760 that they have and see what they see what they 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.160 want to do. But I hadn't this morning, had he 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.079 not heard him working out any guys they really liked 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.679 what Neil's done on the practice squad. They do they 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.880 sure do you know he's two eighty and he's he's 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.840 six foot Yeah, he's not. He's not a big sloppy 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.719 nose tackle. You know, Brian Price three hundred and twenty pounds, right, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.040 that's the one thing that Price has been able to do. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.240 And actually in the game the other day they played 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.800 Price and Ash together, which I thought was kind of 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.480 a unique way of you know, you get two really 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.680 nose tackles and side like that. But uh, yeah, everybody 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.000 really likes Lewis. They liked him from training camp. They 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.079 liked what he was. I mean, heck, Robin, we were 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.280 we did our thing. We were you know, Nick and David, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.160 and when we all put together fifty three man roster, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.240 we had him on the fifty three. Yeah. Liked him, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.600 Mickey right, yeah, absolutely. He would always say watch sixty 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.000 six and what happens with this is maybe you just 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.280 can't use your rotation like they like to do. I mean, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.280 I don't remember if it was the second or third 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.920 series they had their whole backup defensive line in the game, right, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.840 or if you get the ball in a in a 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.520 in a good position, like they're starting off inside their twenty. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.040 You say, okay, let's let's get the second guys in there. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.280 Because they had Taco, Ash Price and Benson Mayowa right, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.520 and they're all together. It wasn't like they were just 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.679 rotating one guy in. They did the whole line. And 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.760 then as as the Chiefs marched right down the field, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.120 it was like, all right, they're on the other side 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.160 of the fifty. You get the starters. Well, you know, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.640 it's it's going on here, it's the It's It's interesting though, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.679 the very last rush they had in the game that 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.439 ended up being a scramble. Uh. They had they had 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.000 Taco playing is that three technical? They had two three techniques, 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.439 but Taco was playing inside. So you had Benson Mayowa 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:48.520 Taco Uh, and then Lawrence on the outside and Uh 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.680 and Irving and David Irving playing inside. So that was 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.840 your four man like go sick them line. You know 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.160 that they tried to roll out there, and you know, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.240 we might see more of that, We might see more 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:04.840 of Taco playing and some some inside techniques, some defensive tackle. Yeah, absolutely, no, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.440 I agree, you guys. It's Brian Price kind of that 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.600 guy that maybe was a little bit underappreciated, I guess 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.199 you could say, but well, he just he just gave 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.760 him some beef in there. Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.800 they don't really have that. I mean, Irving is a 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.360 he's a slender, pass rushing type guy in the middle, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.080 and Mali can play the one. But I don't know 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.320 if he's what he does though. That's what he does. Yeah, 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.360 and that's what he's been doing. They they they they've 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.760 actually played the run better a because Sean Lee has 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.960 been back. But b Mickey said, you know, hey watched 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.360 the switch of David Irving playing the three and Collins 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.280 playing the one. I think they found that Collins is 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.839 a better one than he is a three. So he's 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.599 a mismatch one. He is a mismatch one, he really is, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.920 because he can he could take on and then attack. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.560 The problems he's had is he's gotten home a couple 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.560 of different times. It's the same thing that Taco has balanced. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.000 You know, he he thrashes around, he kind of stumbles through. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.200 Good move and all. He's on the ground and you're like, man, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.760 just stand your feet. If he stays on his feet, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:05.800 I guarantee he would have at least two and a 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.319 half sacks right now from what I've seen. Two and 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:09.960 a half more. Yeah, two and a half more? What 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.679 he has? Yeah, Malik, just some balance issues there. I 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.760 guess where I'm going with this is we talk about 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.240 the three technique being the most critical spot in Rod 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.240 Marinelli's defense, and all of a sudden, you got David Irving, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.800 but he's playing critically. Oh well, yeah he is. I 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.720 get you know, it's Tyrone Crawford. And then they said, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.680 you know what, it's wear and tear on him. Let's 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.720 move him outside, and it's worked. And then it was MALIEK. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.320 Collins and now he's oh, now he's one technique's doing 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.680 a nice job and knows is Irving the guy after all? 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.840 Like this is the best spot for him. How many 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.679 sacks as he have? He has six in four games. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.559 I think he's got nine in the last seven. He's 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.880 the guy. Yeah, it's worked out pretty good. Yeah, well, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.640 they're really fortunate that he's restricted this year too, David Ring. Yes, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.440 or you might lose both those guys, Well, you might 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.600 tag one and goodbye to the other. I love it 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.360 when fans don't really keep track of like the contract 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.120 years and people were tweeting yesterday, pay that man what 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.559 he deserves well, and that's another I mean, that's another consideration. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.480 Absolutely this continues. You could tell him, Okay, you could 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.920 make two and a half million next year, or we 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.480 might just hand you five million if you sign a 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.560 long term deal. Right, did this at a time? They 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.360 did this ten years ago with Jay Ratliffe. He was 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.080 coming off a Pro Bowl year. He'd it was his 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.080 first year as a starter, and they gave him like 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.600 five years twenty million and he took it. Yeah, and 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.440 it was a steal. Not saying David, everyone's gonna take less, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.400 but I mean it's something to well, it's a steal. 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.480 But the steel is you get your money before you 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.120 are obligated to be paid. And that's huge in some 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.760 guy's mind, some guy's mind, especially for a guy that 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.520 was a couple of years ago on a practice squad, right, undrafted. Yeah, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.960 it's like, okay, I'm stuck with it through a suspension 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.600 though too. I'm going to hand you seven million dollars, right, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.360 you know, you can take that or work for two 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.840 million and a half next year. What do you want? Who? 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.120 What you know? Right now? If you can always sign 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:08.960 one who Now do both if you can, if you 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:16.400 can sign one both twitter good drop, good drop, you 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.200 gotta do both. Yeah, you know we're not. We got 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.800 him for a little bit. Yeah, we got him for 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.600 a little bit. You didn't work this hard to get 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.320 to this point. And just you know, you know, I 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.000 just get one. You know you don't want to, you 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.920 don't want to just project one. No getting why not both? Scared? 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.880 Because you got the tag, you got the franchise. Just say, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:38.320 just shag it up. Who's playing? Who's played better? He's okaya? 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.920 Oh well, in a short period of time, who's played better? 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.160 Irving has been more dynamic. But I can't sneeze at 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.360 ten and a half sacks. I'm not sneezing at that either. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.200 That's why I asked you who's playing better? I gotta 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.880 give Lawrence with the full body, long, the long haul. Yeah, Lawrence, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.880 I've seen more. I mean that's and I saw another 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.240 season with eight sacks. Yeah remember that? Yeah, and they 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.080 did the move to go get him in the draft. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.000 We're worried more about you worried about Lawrence's backlong term? No, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.560 because it was the same thing twice. Now he makes 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.240 a definitive answer. There, No, it was the same thing twice. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.000 You really don't want to say who. You don't want 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.320 to say you take one or the over the other. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:21.440 Now both, there's no sense playing bar games both. You 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.560 can sign. You can sign Lawrence. I can sign both Lawrence, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.360 Lawrence or Martin. Oh dear Lawrence or Martin long term? 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.680 If you can only resign one, going to resign one? 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.520 All three? Oh oh, here we go. This is my say. Whatever, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.480 if you need to go to break, it's got to 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.040 be Martin. Right. That's why you let all those defenders 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.240 go right. This is why we do terrible radio. Sometimes 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.320 it's good radio, it's not. Okay, Then you answer the question, 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.040 I think I would sign Urban long term is what 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.960 I would do. No Martin or Lawrence. I'd sign Martin. Okay, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.680 best offensive lineman in the NFL. Yeah why not? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.600 See I'm trying. I'm trying to date nothing against Tank, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.720 not at all. And I also, by the way, yeah, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.200 I have no problem with signing Martin if that, if that, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.960 if one or the other. But he's never missed a game, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.680 he's never knock on la. Lawrence has given you everything 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.879 he's got, right, now and it's coming up ass for you. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.480 That's that's great. You waited this time to get him. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:21.120 But Martin has been the most consistent from the word go. Yeah, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.120 were you disappointed he wasn't able to get a sack 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.080 last week? Mick came close a couple of times. He did. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.560 I was like, oh, there it is he was, he was, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.959 he was all over it. He was still there. I mean, 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.800 he's just so dynamic. He there was a throw a 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.080 lot of problem. There was a throw that that that 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.000 Smith makes going to his left and it's to the 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.400 tight end with Scandrick and coverage underneath, and the throw 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.560 is why, just because there was so much pressure coming 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.960 from Smith's right from Lawrence that it forced him to 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.239 fall to his right, which made the ball go to 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.760 the left and kept it away from the receiver. That's 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.159 what you're getting from this guy. And now he's a 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.440 half a sack in second place. Again, Blais Campbell, They're 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.800 keep lacking back and forth. Saxonville, that's another big, that's 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.879 another big. Saxonville, Brian, if you would yes, I used 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.879 to work in Saxonville. Yeah, if you would just recognize 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.879 that it is Saxonville. And Ramsey's Way T shirt for 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.439 I'm sure they do. Probably. I haven't looked on their 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.600 pro Shot pro Shop website in a while. I had 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.280 money tried to be extorted from me in Jacksonville. Oh 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.280 we're angry now, and now we're angry. During the super Bowl, 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:31.680 they the restaurant starts charging a seating. It's time. Can 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.440 you imagine that, like it was gonna call if you 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.280 brought ten people to the table to eat. Yeah, everybody 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.560 had to pay ten dollars before you order. It's super 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.880 Bowl making and before you tip. I'm sure you. I'm 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.680 sure that's why Jerry pay for you go to the 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.280 super Bowl. That's no, it was on me. Oh no, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.600 you went. I was working, well, you work for the 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.919 news or the NFL. Oh for the NFL. You were 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.920 billing somebody or not. It wasn't enough to pay ten dollars. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.399 There's nothing coming down on any trip. How do you 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:05.120 remember that stuff? It was extortion because he's walking down 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.359 the harbor complaining the whole time about the super Bowl 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.120 being there and he having to cover the Eagles Bowl. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.240 We didn't eat downtown Jacksonville. We went elsewhere. I think 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.600 you just wake up and who's pissed me off. No, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.400 I'm just saying that has wronged me. Don't you think 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.080 that's wrong? Huh? Did you ever pay to sit? It's 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.399 the Super Bowl? I don't care. I've been to a 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.880 lot of Super Bowls and that never happened anywhere else. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.560 And how many times did you come out of your 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.919 pocket on Super Bowls? Oh? I've spent a lot of 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.320 money on Super Bowl? Have you yes your own pocket? Yes? 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.639 Did you build somebody for it? Sent me no expense 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.960