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Speaker 1: Your hosts, Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and
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Speaker 1: I'm Taylor, joined by Brian, Rob and Mickey. As we
Speaker 1: get going on this Tuesday at the Star and Frisco.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Cowboys are coming off a big win
Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs and looking ahead to the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons this weekend. But how is everyone doing today? Fantastic? Yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: of Atlanta arrest of the Metropechs not doing so well
Speaker 1: all this morning. I know. It's kind of sad to
Speaker 1: hear about some things at TCU and then on thirty five,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, thank god it was fake. Who walks? Who
Speaker 1: has a fake grenade in their car? I don't like
Speaker 1: a toy like a plastic Very interesting people. It's the
Speaker 1: world today, Mick. Yeah, and sadly it is, but that's
Speaker 1: why we bring you an hour of Cowboys News for
Speaker 1: you to escape and just remember the good times, like
Speaker 1: the three game wins. Streaking there you go, yes, and
Speaker 1: of course the Cowboys are getting that win. But now
Speaker 1: looking at different injuries they sustained on Sunday, Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: headlining that one and talking about maybe being questionable for Sunday,
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, we're hearing. I would think at this
Speaker 1: point that's a probably a safe term. So of course
Speaker 1: Chad's Green would replace him. How do you guys feel
Speaker 1: about that? Well, Chad's Green and then also barn Bell.
Speaker 1: I mean, Barron Bell has been a healthy scratch, but
Speaker 1: they've gone they split reps during practice. Okay, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, I always talk about competition, but it looks
Speaker 1: like that they've kind of kept Chaz Green in his
Speaker 1: position to make that start he was. He came in
Speaker 1: the game the other day, so they obviously feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about him. But you know, when he's had to
Speaker 1: make starts, Chaz Green hasn't been bad. Yeah, and especially
Speaker 1: at tackle, there's been a couple of different times where
Speaker 1: he's had to step in. You might feel like though
Speaker 1: a training camp and preseason games and stuff. He's been
Speaker 1: pretty bad. The only real real knock on Chaz Green
Speaker 1: is the fact that he can't stay healthy. Other than that,
Speaker 1: you have a pretty good, uh, you know, offensive lineman there.
Speaker 1: I need to get into Atlanta's defense this afternoon and see,
Speaker 1: you know the matchups. You know, I'm sure he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with guys with Vic Beasley's I know,
Speaker 1: a guy that has had a bunch of sacks and
Speaker 1: Brooks read guys like that. So well, we'll see how
Speaker 1: that all plays out. If he has to go. Tyrn Smith,
Speaker 1: as we've all known, is very tough, resilient, you know,
Speaker 1: and if he can go, he can go and h
Speaker 1: but we'll we'll need to see. It's a pretty pretty
Speaker 1: interesting injury for an offensive lineman. Yeah, yeah, well he's
Speaker 1: chats got what six game plays in the game the
Speaker 1: other day, so I mean they're trying to wind the
Speaker 1: clock down there, so it's hard to judge. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean May two starts last year did a nice
Speaker 1: job Byron Bell. I guess could be an option there
Speaker 1: if they split reps during the week. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Tyron's a guy that could just not practice during the
Speaker 1: week and still play. Absolutely, yeah, he does. He's part
Speaker 1: of that hard I thought, hard and fast rule for players,
Speaker 1: especially veterans. I think you could get away doing that
Speaker 1: with offensive lineman, I really do, more so than other position. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's there's there's things that there's
Speaker 1: certain plays that they're going to run in the game
Speaker 1: plan that he knows. Runner pass. I mean, he's okay,
Speaker 1: I know that's a pass, it's technique. Okay, it's run.
Speaker 1: Like when we're talk about Zeke the other day, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you fit in the blitz pickup stuff? That's
Speaker 1: a little bit different, you know, when you start talking
Speaker 1: about players wide receivers too as well, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the play, this is your route, but they have to
Speaker 1: rep that stuff. I think offensive linemen are a little
Speaker 1: bit more customed to go in in there, down after
Speaker 1: down after down, and so if you take him out
Speaker 1: of that, though, there's they could still have that down
Speaker 1: after down mentality. I don't think. I think him not practicing,
Speaker 1: you know, would would be fine. I really really do.
Speaker 1: Now they want him to practice, but they of course,
Speaker 1: but you know, if he didn't have any practice, I
Speaker 1: would not feel one bit hesitant to put him out
Speaker 1: there on that field, just because I know that if
Speaker 1: they say, okay, we're gonna run this running play, he
Speaker 1: would know what to do, or they're going to run
Speaker 1: this past play that he would know how to block it.
Speaker 1: There's a handful of guys on this team that put
Speaker 1: him out there. Yeah, you expect they'd be ready to
Speaker 1: go sea. He's in that boats and if he can't.
Speaker 1: I mean this to me was the master plan right
Speaker 1: absolutely screen. It was supposed to be the swing backup tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go with the plan. You know, the same thing
Speaker 1: like we discussed with the running backs of Zeke woodn't there. Well,
Speaker 1: this was the plan, So go with it. You can't
Speaker 1: sit here and go, oh no, what do I do now?
Speaker 1: Because that's the decision you made ten twelve weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you know, and again need to get into Atlanta's
Speaker 1: defense on the rush. But the next three weeks, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, though, you're planning to get some
Speaker 1: teams that can bring some heat, you know, with with
Speaker 1: like you know, whether we'll see again about the Falcon Rushers,
Speaker 1: but clearly the Eagles and then talk about the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. You know, Yeah, Ingram and Bosa. So yeah,
Speaker 1: those are you know, you hopefully you get Smith back
Speaker 1: in a timely fashion so you don't have to go
Speaker 1: through those waters of having to deal with those teams
Speaker 1: on the on the on the outside. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are circling this weekend as the game that
Speaker 1: Cheeto A Woozier could be back. Of course, he's missed
Speaker 1: five of the six games so far. Yes, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the thing with the Woozier is, Okay, where
Speaker 1: does he fit? You know, what are they they? Obviously
Speaker 1: they had him at Safety and Green Bay. You know,
Speaker 1: they did a pretty good job of coverage last week
Speaker 1: with the guys they have. Okay, who you know is
Speaker 1: has been Wickery the one that comes off the field.
Speaker 1: Now that you've been Wickery as a guy in primarily
Speaker 1: and special team stuff. He did pretty good as special
Speaker 1: teams at Washington. Yeah, so you know that's coaches sometimes
Speaker 1: get comfortable with the guys not Sometimes a lot of
Speaker 1: times get comfortable with the guys they have, and especially
Speaker 1: if they're riding a pretty good hand where they're stopping people,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well let's let's
Speaker 1: just keep playing with the guys we've got, even though
Speaker 1: you want to see a woozy a play, you know,
Speaker 1: at whose expense? And I think it could be at
Speaker 1: Ben Wickery's expense if they go that round. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: it a little different because he's a second round draft pick?
Speaker 1: And oh no, absolutely, you really have something invested in him.
Speaker 1: I mean, Taco is active every week. But but you
Speaker 1: need to win games, obviously, Yeah, you need you need
Speaker 1: to win games. I think that's the thing about it,
Speaker 1: is if you're a team that if you're a team
Speaker 1: that was three and six at this time, you know,
Speaker 1: you say, you know, you're not just trotting a guy out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're trying to think, Okay, who can help us play?
Speaker 1: Is is if we activate him, is he going to
Speaker 1: be healthy enough to play? That's the thing that you
Speaker 1: have to know about because you got in the Green
Speaker 1: Bay game and obviously four five snaps he wasn't healthy
Speaker 1: enough to play, and now you're down a man, you know,
Speaker 1: so that those are always things that kind of creep
Speaker 1: into your mind when you're thinking about and I think
Speaker 1: that's what they've taken so long with him. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if they have to take another week, they'll be it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing you have to consider
Speaker 1: when he comes back is his volume. How how much
Speaker 1: do you want him to play? Right? Because they were
Speaker 1: having him play defense, he was playing all the special
Speaker 1: teams this is true. How can he do both or
Speaker 1: you just do part of it? Right? And is he
Speaker 1: more important than a sixth wide receiver or an extra
Speaker 1: defensive lineman right? I think those things will all come
Speaker 1: in to play because Ben Rickery's best basically just been
Speaker 1: a special that's always done, that's always done. Do you
Speaker 1: want Chitta Bay to be the special teams guy and
Speaker 1: just do that and keep your defense the way it was?
Speaker 1: You know, I think they have to make decisions. We
Speaker 1: always thought it would be good to have him in
Speaker 1: the slot and scan Drick in the slot when they
Speaker 1: went dime and leave By and Jones in the back
Speaker 1: instead of bringing in Cavan Frasier. Uh, they can still
Speaker 1: bring in the Xavier Woods. They were kind of sharing
Speaker 1: snaps with Jeff Heath back there and the change up defenses.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, if he can play in there,
Speaker 1: he's awfully good. I think playing in that dime in
Speaker 1: the swat, it's another guy that can cover, you know,
Speaker 1: The one thing I've kind of learned about Woods is
Speaker 1: he can cover. I don't know how well he tackles.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing I think. I worry about him.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that they're playing him out there,
Speaker 1: and I love the way he covers, and I love
Speaker 1: the way he sees the ball and drives on the ball.
Speaker 1: But again, you need as many guys in the field
Speaker 1: that can cover. You know, Atlanta's just watching their team
Speaker 1: this morning. I know we'll get into it a couple
Speaker 1: of days. But see, it's a it's a team that
Speaker 1: has big, wide receivers that don't run great, so you
Speaker 1: can match up. You better be ready for a physical
Speaker 1: game on the outside. They got physical tight ends to
Speaker 1: running up the field, so that's going to be It's
Speaker 1: not so much about the speed with the Falcons. It's
Speaker 1: more about can you handle the physicality that they have
Speaker 1: on the outside with the receivers. I's tackled by Woods
Speaker 1: on the opening quarter, the drive third, Yeah, off the field.
Speaker 1: That that was the progress from him. Yeah, I've just
Speaker 1: I could say the inconsistency at certain times bothers me
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, you know, but that's again we'll have
Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. Now. Of course, coach
Speaker 1: Garrett informed everyone that yes, Brian Price will be moving
Speaker 1: to IR with the surgery that he is going to have. Now,
Speaker 1: looking at the defensive tackle position, what do you guys
Speaker 1: think you are the next steps here for the team, Well,
Speaker 1: they got to replace him with somebody, and Lewis Neil
Speaker 1: comes to mind. He's the only defensive lineman they have
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Now they could they could look
Speaker 1: outside the team if they want to go a veteran guy,
Speaker 1: one technique type player, I think is what they're probably thinking.
Speaker 1: As this morning, I didn't. I didn't hear any new names.
Speaker 1: Usually tuesdays a day where you get workouts that come
Speaker 1: in and stuff like that. So if they have to
Speaker 1: make that move, which they will, I think they're also
Speaker 1: waiting to see what's going on with Zeke's situation. But
Speaker 1: that's a late in the week kind of thing. If
Speaker 1: they make these moves, I think, adding it will be late.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna they're gonna practice with these guys
Speaker 1: that they have and see what they see what they
Speaker 1: want to do. But I hadn't this morning, had he
Speaker 1: not heard him working out any guys they really liked
Speaker 1: what Neil's done on the practice squad. They do they
Speaker 1: sure do you know he's two eighty and he's he's
Speaker 1: six foot Yeah, he's not. He's not a big sloppy
Speaker 1: nose tackle. You know, Brian Price three hundred and twenty pounds, right,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Price has been able to do.
Speaker 1: And actually in the game the other day they played
Speaker 1: Price and Ash together, which I thought was kind of
Speaker 1: a unique way of you know, you get two really
Speaker 1: nose tackles and side like that. But uh, yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: really likes Lewis. They liked him from training camp. They
Speaker 1: liked what he was. I mean, heck, Robin, we were
Speaker 1: we did our thing. We were you know, Nick and David,
Speaker 1: and when we all put together fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: we had him on the fifty three. Yeah. Liked him,
Speaker 1: Mickey right, yeah, absolutely. He would always say watch sixty
Speaker 1: six and what happens with this is maybe you just
Speaker 1: can't use your rotation like they like to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was the second or third
Speaker 1: series they had their whole backup defensive line in the game, right,
Speaker 1: or if you get the ball in a in a
Speaker 1: in a good position, like they're starting off inside their twenty.
Speaker 1: You say, okay, let's let's get the second guys in there.
Speaker 1: Because they had Taco, Ash Price and Benson Mayowa right,
Speaker 1: and they're all together. It wasn't like they were just
Speaker 1: rotating one guy in. They did the whole line. And
Speaker 1: then as as the Chiefs marched right down the field,
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, they're on the other side
Speaker 1: of the fifty. You get the starters. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's going on here, it's the It's It's interesting though,
Speaker 1: the very last rush they had in the game that
Speaker 1: ended up being a scramble. Uh. They had they had
Speaker 1: Taco playing is that three technical? They had two three techniques,
Speaker 1: but Taco was playing inside. So you had Benson Mayowa
Speaker 1: Taco Uh, and then Lawrence on the outside and Uh
Speaker 1: and Irving and David Irving playing inside. So that was
Speaker 1: your four man like go sick them line. You know
Speaker 1: that they tried to roll out there, and you know,
Speaker 1: we might see more of that, We might see more
Speaker 1: of Taco playing and some some inside techniques, some defensive tackle. Yeah, absolutely, no,
Speaker 1: I agree, you guys. It's Brian Price kind of that
Speaker 1: guy that maybe was a little bit underappreciated, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say, but well, he just he just gave
Speaker 1: him some beef in there. Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't really have that. I mean, Irving is a
Speaker 1: he's a slender, pass rushing type guy in the middle,
Speaker 1: and Mali can play the one. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's what he does though. That's what he does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what he's been doing. They they they they've
Speaker 1: actually played the run better a because Sean Lee has
Speaker 1: been back. But b Mickey said, you know, hey watched
Speaker 1: the switch of David Irving playing the three and Collins
Speaker 1: playing the one. I think they found that Collins is
Speaker 1: a better one than he is a three. So he's
Speaker 1: a mismatch one. He is a mismatch one, he really is,
Speaker 1: because he can he could take on and then attack.
Speaker 1: The problems he's had is he's gotten home a couple
Speaker 1: of different times. It's the same thing that Taco has balanced.
Speaker 1: You know, he he thrashes around, he kind of stumbles through.
Speaker 1: Good move and all. He's on the ground and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: just stand your feet. If he stays on his feet,
Speaker 1: I guarantee he would have at least two and a
Speaker 1: half sacks right now from what I've seen. Two and
Speaker 1: a half more. Yeah, two and a half more? What
Speaker 1: he has? Yeah, Malik, just some balance issues there. I
Speaker 1: guess where I'm going with this is we talk about
Speaker 1: the three technique being the most critical spot in Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli's defense, and all of a sudden, you got David Irving,
Speaker 1: but he's playing critically. Oh well, yeah he is. I
Speaker 1: get you know, it's Tyrone Crawford. And then they said,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's wear and tear on him. Let's
Speaker 1: move him outside, and it's worked. And then it was MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins and now he's oh, now he's one technique's doing
Speaker 1: a nice job and knows is Irving the guy after all?
Speaker 1: Like this is the best spot for him. How many
Speaker 1: sacks as he have? He has six in four games.
Speaker 1: I think he's got nine in the last seven. He's
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, it's worked out pretty good. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they're really fortunate that he's restricted this year too, David Ring. Yes,
Speaker 1: or you might lose both those guys, Well, you might
Speaker 1: tag one and goodbye to the other. I love it
Speaker 1: when fans don't really keep track of like the contract
Speaker 1: years and people were tweeting yesterday, pay that man what
Speaker 1: he deserves well, and that's another I mean, that's another consideration.
Speaker 1: Absolutely this continues. You could tell him, Okay, you could
Speaker 1: make two and a half million next year, or we
Speaker 1: might just hand you five million if you sign a
Speaker 1: long term deal. Right, did this at a time? They
Speaker 1: did this ten years ago with Jay Ratliffe. He was
Speaker 1: coming off a Pro Bowl year. He'd it was his
Speaker 1: first year as a starter, and they gave him like
Speaker 1: five years twenty million and he took it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was a steal. Not saying David, everyone's gonna take less,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's something to well, it's a steal.
Speaker 1: But the steel is you get your money before you
Speaker 1: are obligated to be paid. And that's huge in some
Speaker 1: guy's mind, some guy's mind, especially for a guy that
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago on a practice squad, right, undrafted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I'm stuck with it through a suspension
Speaker 1: though too. I'm going to hand you seven million dollars, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you can take that or work for two
Speaker 1: million and a half next year. What do you want? Who?
Speaker 1: What you know? Right now? If you can always sign
Speaker 1: one who Now do both if you can, if you
Speaker 1: can sign one both twitter good drop, good drop, you
Speaker 1: gotta do both. Yeah, you know we're not. We got
Speaker 1: him for a little bit. Yeah, we got him for
Speaker 1: a little bit. You didn't work this hard to get
Speaker 1: to this point. And just you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: just get one. You know you don't want to, you
Speaker 1: don't want to just project one. No getting why not both? Scared?
Speaker 1: Because you got the tag, you got the franchise. Just say,
Speaker 1: just shag it up. Who's playing? Who's played better? He's okaya?
Speaker 1: Oh well, in a short period of time, who's played better?
Speaker 1: Irving has been more dynamic. But I can't sneeze at
Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks. I'm not sneezing at that either.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked you who's playing better? I gotta
Speaker 1: give Lawrence with the full body, long, the long haul. Yeah, Lawrence,
Speaker 1: I've seen more. I mean that's and I saw another
Speaker 1: season with eight sacks. Yeah remember that? Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: did the move to go get him in the draft.
Speaker 1: We're worried more about you worried about Lawrence's backlong term? No,
Speaker 1: because it was the same thing twice. Now he makes
Speaker 1: a definitive answer. There, No, it was the same thing twice.
Speaker 1: You really don't want to say who. You don't want
Speaker 1: to say you take one or the over the other.
Speaker 1: Now both, there's no sense playing bar games both. You
Speaker 1: can sign. You can sign Lawrence. I can sign both Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Lawrence or Martin. Oh dear Lawrence or Martin long term?
Speaker 1: If you can only resign one, going to resign one?
Speaker 1: All three? Oh oh, here we go. This is my say. Whatever,
Speaker 1: if you need to go to break, it's got to
Speaker 1: be Martin. Right. That's why you let all those defenders
Speaker 1: go right. This is why we do terrible radio. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's good radio, it's not. Okay, Then you answer the question,
Speaker 1: I think I would sign Urban long term is what
Speaker 1: I would do. No Martin or Lawrence. I'd sign Martin. Okay,
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman in the NFL. Yeah why not? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1: See I'm trying. I'm trying to date nothing against Tank,
Speaker 1: not at all. And I also, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have no problem with signing Martin if that, if that,
Speaker 1: if one or the other. But he's never missed a game,
Speaker 1: he's never knock on la. Lawrence has given you everything
Speaker 1: he's got, right, now and it's coming up ass for you.
Speaker 1: That's that's great. You waited this time to get him.
Speaker 1: But Martin has been the most consistent from the word go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were you disappointed he wasn't able to get a sack
Speaker 1: last week? Mick came close a couple of times. He did.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there it is he was, he was,
Speaker 1: he was all over it. He was still there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just so dynamic. He there was a throw a
Speaker 1: lot of problem. There was a throw that that that
Speaker 1: Smith makes going to his left and it's to the
Speaker 1: tight end with Scandrick and coverage underneath, and the throw
Speaker 1: is why, just because there was so much pressure coming
Speaker 1: from Smith's right from Lawrence that it forced him to
Speaker 1: fall to his right, which made the ball go to
Speaker 1: the left and kept it away from the receiver. That's
Speaker 1: what you're getting from this guy. And now he's a
Speaker 1: half a sack in second place. Again, Blais Campbell, They're
Speaker 1: keep lacking back and forth. Saxonville, that's another big, that's
Speaker 1: another big. Saxonville, Brian, if you would yes, I used
Speaker 1: to work in Saxonville. Yeah, if you would just recognize
Speaker 1: that it is Saxonville. And Ramsey's Way T shirt for
Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. Probably. I haven't looked on their
Speaker 1: pro Shot pro Shop website in a while. I had
Speaker 1: money tried to be extorted from me in Jacksonville. Oh
Speaker 1: we're angry now, and now we're angry. During the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they the restaurant starts charging a seating. It's time. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine that, like it was gonna call if you
Speaker 1: brought ten people to the table to eat. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: had to pay ten dollars before you order. It's super
Speaker 1: Bowl making and before you tip. I'm sure you. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that's why Jerry pay for you go to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's no, it was on me. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you went. I was working, well, you work for the
Speaker 1: news or the NFL. Oh for the NFL. You were
Speaker 1: billing somebody or not. It wasn't enough to pay ten dollars.
Speaker 1: There's nothing coming down on any trip. How do you
Speaker 1: remember that stuff? It was extortion because he's walking down
Speaker 1: the harbor complaining the whole time about the super Bowl
Speaker 1: being there and he having to cover the Eagles Bowl.
Speaker 1: We didn't eat downtown Jacksonville. We went elsewhere. I think
Speaker 1: you just wake up and who's pissed me off. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that has wronged me. Don't you think
Speaker 1: that's wrong? Huh? Did you ever pay to sit? It's
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? I don't care. I've been to a
Speaker 1: lot of Super Bowls and that never happened anywhere else.
Speaker 1: And how many times did you come out of your
Speaker 1: pocket on Super Bowls? Oh? I've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: money on Super Bowl? Have you yes your own pocket? Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you build somebody for it? Sent me no expense
Speaker 1: reports from newspapers. It was a pool report. He's working
Speaker 1: for the NFL. Yeah, I got like how much did
Speaker 1: I get? Like two hundred dollars? Oh, that's that's for
Speaker 1: a week. Two hundred bucks for you for a week,
Speaker 1: you could eat like a king. But that didn't even
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Speaker 1: that is absolutely ridiculous. We are going to take our first.
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Speaker 1: How about that, Jalen Rams your aj Green. I think
Speaker 1: there's no love loss there between Romo and Sanders, right,
Speaker 1: Mick evidently, Well, no, no, no history. I've always noticed
Speaker 1: them like when they he's been on set with them together,
Speaker 1: They're like on NFL Network, they would kind of snipe
Speaker 1: at each other, you know. Human Irvin Michael has always
Speaker 1: been really supportive of Tony yes, And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Dion hasn't, but there's always been a little tension there
Speaker 1: between the Well when's Tony been on NFL Network after games?
Speaker 1: On the game? Yeah? Yeah, and training camp and different
Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, they've always kind of taken friendly
Speaker 1: little brand you. It's apparent now that you don't have
Speaker 1: to be bald forever. And Dion Sanders is showing us
Speaker 1: all of that. What happened once you get your restoration paint? Yeah, paint, Oh,
Speaker 1: paint like real paint? What it's pretty much paints simplified it.
Speaker 1: Who is it really like spray paint? Spray on hair? Like?
Speaker 1: Do you like have to put like a like a
Speaker 1: do you have to tape off? You have to tape
Speaker 1: He has not been present for this procedure or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call. How do you do in TV
Speaker 1: lights when you sweat it? Does it run? We don't
Speaker 1: know the exact details, but I'll find them out. It's
Speaker 1: not paint, but it's it's kind of just put on
Speaker 1: an artificial thing. Yeah, instance, So is there any depth
Speaker 1: to it? I don't know. I just think that it's funny,
Speaker 1: like death. I thought he looked at it, Yeah, look
Speaker 1: like has been for years. Yeah, he has been for years.
Speaker 1: So just be bald, be you deon, own your life decision.
Speaker 1: I made a decision, make you to be bald. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm catching it. Are you debating it right now
Speaker 1: in your head? Catching up with you? Yeah? Well then
Speaker 1: that goes. That's a good segue into our next segment here.
Speaker 1: I want to do a little something. Are they fake
Speaker 1: er for real? And you know we're talking about Dion's
Speaker 1: fake ish hair, So let's get into it the in
Speaker 1: teams that we want to know are they fake or
Speaker 1: for real? Okay, got to start with the Eagles. Are
Speaker 1: they going to continue on this success? I mean they're
Speaker 1: eight in one right now, They've gotten there with no
Speaker 1: bye week, They've had big injuries obviously, Jason Peters highlighting
Speaker 1: that one. But are they gonna be able to? Can you?
Speaker 1: They only really need two more wins to hit ten
Speaker 1: on the season. That's pretty impressive. That is impressive. It's
Speaker 1: kind of the same run as the Cowboys had last year.
Speaker 1: With the way they were winning games. I didn't think
Speaker 1: initially they were for real, but I was wrong about them.
Speaker 1: They've they've got the personnel and they've got the personnel
Speaker 1: to be able to withstand some injury. They're doing great
Speaker 1: job on defense, obviously, the quarterbacks playing well. They went
Speaker 1: out and got a runner that can help him in
Speaker 1: some pass protection stuff which they needed. So played great
Speaker 1: last week. Mick by the way, yes he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the tight end. The tight end didn't play last
Speaker 1: week in the game, and they still moved the football
Speaker 1: in Denver's. Denver's a quality defense and they embarrassed them.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say they are for real. You start
Speaker 1: four and oh, yeah, they're for real. If you start
Speaker 1: four and O, I still want to see more. If
Speaker 1: you start eight and one a season, you're a good
Speaker 1: football team. And like you said, they're a complete team.
Speaker 1: They're playing well defensively. Carson Wentz as an MVP candidate.
Speaker 1: Barring some collapse, the team's going to the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their next few games after this bye week obviously are
Speaker 1: the Cowboys here at at and C Stadium, the Bears
Speaker 1: at home, Eagle or Seahawks on the road. Rams on
Speaker 1: the road, So they'll probably stay in California most likely
Speaker 1: that week or something like that. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: a good matchup there. There's a couple of back to
Speaker 1: back teams. Seahawks are going to be fighting, you know,
Speaker 1: and the Rams are clearly going to try and you
Speaker 1: know they're trying to win that division. I mean, that
Speaker 1: would be a great story for them. Yeah, well let's
Speaker 1: get to the Rams next, Mick. You think the Rams
Speaker 1: are going to continue six and two right now? Have
Speaker 1: had some dominant performances. Are they for real? Yes? What
Speaker 1: makes him for real? They're six and two running game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the running game. They run the football girly, the pressure
Speaker 1: off absolutely, and go Off's good enough to continue doing that.
Speaker 1: They've got a really good defense too. We saw that
Speaker 1: they were able to get stops in that game against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the second half. They get they right
Speaker 1: the ship is what they were able to do in
Speaker 1: the second half. And so yeah, for real head coach too,
Speaker 1: they're they're buying into his mentality, his ability. He understands
Speaker 1: how to get this. This quarterback go in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Four touchdowns the other day in that game against the Giants,
Speaker 1: and know the Giants are really struggling bad, but four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions, They're not turning over the football, they're scorn
Speaker 1: points and their defense is good enough to hold him
Speaker 1: a game. Then another thing. I never thought i'd say this.
Speaker 1: Give Wade Phillips a lot of credit for what he's
Speaker 1: done on defense there. Yeah, they're for real. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was a bad loss at eighteen C Stadium.
Speaker 1: I know some some did. And they're a team that's
Speaker 1: you're not familiar with being an elite team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: But you know, they put up thirty five on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and that's about what they were averaging and they're
Speaker 1: continuing to do it. So yeah, thank it for real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very real. Indeed. Now let's look at the Saints.
Speaker 1: The Saints are silently on a six game win streak there. Now,
Speaker 1: the Saints are in a situation right now where they're
Speaker 1: not having to throw the football to win games. I
Speaker 1: want to say that Drew Brees and their six game
Speaker 1: winning streak has only had one game of over three
Speaker 1: hundred yards passing. So Sean Payton, they moved on from
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. Alvin Kamara has been a really good addition
Speaker 1: to them. The rookie actually has at a Tennessee, Tennessee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is. Remember he's runs, he's been running with balance.
Speaker 1: He's done a great job, catching the football in the flat,
Speaker 1: making plays. That's a big they're in. The Saints are
Speaker 1: finally playing defense. That's the key. Yeah, they're actually playing
Speaker 1: who they finally settle on as a deep because they've
Speaker 1: been allen for a defensive court Alan they used to
Speaker 1: be at Oakland. The head coach at Oakland, the kid
Speaker 1: from the guy from here right, Yeah, what's his first name,
Speaker 1: Dennis Salenn Salen. Yeah, they finally found a defensive or
Speaker 1: he Dennis Salon was a little bit in the hot seat.
Speaker 1: Team started Owen two and they were kind of thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: goodbye Sean Payton. But again, they run the football, they
Speaker 1: play defense, and they found some guys to uh like
Speaker 1: a Kamara who's done a great job. I need to
Speaker 1: see more. I need to see more. They don't trust it. Oh,
Speaker 1: they've beaten some teams that quite frankly aren't very good. Um,
Speaker 1: I still look at their schedule. They still got some
Speaker 1: tough opponents ahead, Redskins in their offense, Rams, Panthers twice,
Speaker 1: Falcons twice. They're you know, they've got to win a
Speaker 1: bunch of games left in their division to make the playoffs. Still, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously they're playing well. And if you got Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: you got a shot, would you like would you like
Speaker 1: your chances if you had to go play a first
Speaker 1: round game there? I wouldn't want to go play a game.
Speaker 1: They're absolutely not not I need to see more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to see more, but I don't like that
Speaker 1: stadium more. But I'm gonna stay far away. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been there for a home playoff game?
Speaker 1: That is not good? That's Minnesota twice with a headache? Wow? Yeah, Wow,
Speaker 1: another place I wouldn't want to go play another playoff
Speaker 1: game in Minnesota. Well good, hey, good segment, because the
Speaker 1: Vikings are one of the only teams that have beaten
Speaker 1: the Saints and now you know they're looking like they
Speaker 1: could be a strong contender for NFC playoff stuff. So
Speaker 1: that they got a great break with the fact that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is missing all these games. Anthony Barr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that their defense with Mike Zimmer give him a
Speaker 1: lot of credit. They've played with backup quarterbacks. They find
Speaker 1: a way to move the foot. They lost their runner,
Speaker 1: they lost their primary guy. I mean that team was
Speaker 1: going to that way when offense if the runner doesn't
Speaker 1: get hurt. They were going to be playing the super
Speaker 1: Bowl at home. Yeah. Wow, that'd be kind of a crazy,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it. The Yeah, their defense is nasty. They're for real.
Speaker 1: Show me more. Oh why do you say that, Mick,
Speaker 1: Because I don't trust the quarterback position. Yeah, even with
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater possibly making the return and when did he
Speaker 1: last play two years almost It's a great story. I
Speaker 1: love great stories. But you asked me if they were
Speaker 1: for real. Bradford wasn't playing too badly before he got hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean at least the I mean, he's never gonna
Speaker 1: totally wow you like he did at Oklahoma. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get back anytime soon. If they put him on ir now,
Speaker 1: he could make it. He could make his return for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, that's yeah, we'll see. They've done a
Speaker 1: great job. I mean, Zimmer, they they they've got they've
Speaker 1: got the personnel on defense there there, They're they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough out. They've they've got. They go to
Speaker 1: Washington this weekend. That'll tell you a little bit about them,
Speaker 1: you know, going to play a team that Washington little
Speaker 1: bit banged it, but heck of it win for them
Speaker 1: to go to Seattle and kid, Mike, yeahs blay or
Speaker 1: Walsh still with the Rocks. Goodbye, Gosh, poor guy. I'd
Speaker 1: bring in about talk about a good story. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta make kicks in this league. You know that's
Speaker 1: a big issue there. You can't lose. You can't lose
Speaker 1: games on special teams the way you can't. You just
Speaker 1: can't if you have the opportunity to make fuelicals. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they have to be all fifty seven yards,
Speaker 1: but make field goals and catch punts. Yeah, that's another one. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's mic dropped there. Finally, the Cowboys. We're looking ahead
Speaker 1: and we're looking at some of the big games. Obviously
Speaker 1: everyone's got the Eagles games circled on their calendars two
Speaker 1: weeks from now, but it really means nothing if you
Speaker 1: can't get that win here in Atlanta. So we are
Speaker 1: going to be doing all that. But it looks more
Speaker 1: and more like that New Year's Eve game in Philly
Speaker 1: might mean a lot. I think the game, Tay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go a week ahead of you on that one.
Speaker 1: Let's say the Seattle game is going to be the
Speaker 1: one that's gonna mean a ton. That can mean if
Speaker 1: the Rams are starting to run away with a division
Speaker 1: and you're looking like, okay, who is the fifth wild
Speaker 1: who are the fifth or six wild cards? So you're
Speaker 1: competing against Seattle. You know, that's why that Washington lost,
Speaker 1: I mean lost to Washington. I didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with that, even though Washington's within the Cowboys division. But
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of NFC games and who's
Speaker 1: losing what and stuff like that. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you you're saying to the Cowboys for real? Is that
Speaker 1: what you ask? Is that the question? Yes, I do
Speaker 1: I worry about them without Ezekiela's yeah, that's that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the elephant in the room. And I can't say
Speaker 1: show me more because they've shown me more. They really have.
Speaker 1: They've shown you. They've shown me. Offensively, there there what
Speaker 1: we thought they were going to be were really you know,
Speaker 1: the ability to run the football, the weapons on the outside,
Speaker 1: the quarterback with no sophomore slump. Defensively, we still have
Speaker 1: our questions, but the last three weeks they've been outstanding well.
Speaker 1: And you know, Mickey was writing down the names of
Speaker 1: the judges and why that matters so much is it's
Speaker 1: a two one decision this week Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: It's going to come down to two one. It's not
Speaker 1: all three to one, and you've got two Republican ones
Speaker 1: and one Democrat one. See where they sway. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a huge decision. This is it, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get this, this is probably the rest
Speaker 1: of the way out, the rest of the six games
Speaker 1: unless yeah, if he gives it, I don't think you
Speaker 1: could petition the Supreme Court or an emergency and June, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if pair Mason is going to show
Speaker 1: up here and then save the day. But somebody I
Speaker 1: don't know. The good part of this whole deal is
Speaker 1: it from reading some of this stuff. Normally, they when
Speaker 1: it gets to this three judge panel in the Second
Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals, they they basically make a judgment
Speaker 1: on some summary summary. Right, They're gonna let him argue.
Speaker 1: They're gonna let him come and each lawyer have his say,
Speaker 1: so instead of reading a brief, they're gonna actually hear
Speaker 1: this case. So you've got a chance that they'll listen,
Speaker 1: because I guarantee you Judge Catherine didn't listen. But there
Speaker 1: were oral arguments made and at the Fifth Circuit too, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying if this this court, I read they
Speaker 1: normally like this week, everything's on the docket. Uh. They
Speaker 1: they they call it. Uh, they judge on submission, eating
Speaker 1: I submit what I'm gonna say to you, and you
Speaker 1: read it. They're gonna let him have oral arguments in
Speaker 1: this one. So there, so there's gonna be questions going back,
Speaker 1: so they can question you back and forth. Who was
Speaker 1: arguing for the NFL. I think the guy who's arguing
Speaker 1: for the NFL has never lost. Yeah, the guy that
Speaker 1: came in out of nowhere Kessler argues for the Players Association,
Speaker 1: and then and then make you I thought you'd remember this,
Speaker 1: can't remember that. But there's a guy that he's the
Speaker 1: guy that based there did the break. There's he's the
Speaker 1: he's the Mariano Rivera of Yeah, he's NFL. He's undefeated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they played the Sandman song, he comes walking out
Speaker 1: of the center field and closes the game. So be ready, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's everybody else do the dirty word. He is. But
Speaker 1: Ezekiel will not be traveling to New York this week. No,
Speaker 1: there's no need, no need. I mean, it's not like
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask him any questions. But he can practice, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow and Thursday, and then he who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: Friday too. If they don't make it the ruling done
Speaker 1: come down till after twelve thirty, Well, hell he could
Speaker 1: play right Sunday. If there's no ruling during the world.
Speaker 1: I think they're probably gonna odds are Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure the NFL is going to press for that. And
Speaker 1: it is in New York. Yeah, as soon as that
Speaker 1: word comes down. Do you hear what Michael Irvin had
Speaker 1: to say yesterday? I did not What did he say?
Speaker 1: He said? And they want to hit the hit the
Speaker 1: legal pad, and I want I want to get it,
Speaker 1: get it off the three legal pads you got in
Speaker 1: front of you today. The Lady of Justice is no
Speaker 1: longer blindfolded, right, meaning if you've ever seen it, she
Speaker 1: sits there with the scales. Scales get one hand and
Speaker 1: the sword in the other, and she's got a blindfold, right,
Speaker 1: Because you're supposed to be objective neutral. Nothing's supposed to
Speaker 1: sway you in making an objective decision. Age And Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin said, she ain't that blind goddess anymore. No, if
Speaker 1: you just had his laugh, I can't do it all.
Speaker 1: He was literally happy. That's me that aiden Michael. Michael's
Speaker 1: is much deeper. But but he's right. And so what
Speaker 1: you pointed out about the judges, two of them were
Speaker 1: appointed by the Bush clan uh h and w and
Speaker 1: then one was appointed by Obama. Obama, and there's one
Speaker 1: female Livingstone is the female on the court. So it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like you're sitting there going, Okay, one's got
Speaker 1: a flip. Yeah, you will one somebody's got to get influenced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'll call him, you know. And the thing is
Speaker 1: is will they just will they just listen? Or will
Speaker 1: they or were they? You know, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a reach to say Goodell overstepped his authority, you know,
Speaker 1: in this whole thing labor law. Yeah, if they're just
Speaker 1: gonna say, okay, we're not messing with the labor law,
Speaker 1: that's you know, that could be as unfair as it
Speaker 1: needs to be. Well, that's not fair to the common man, right,
Speaker 1: the common worker. That's not fair. But the problem is
Speaker 1: the common worker negotiated that. I understand that, but they
Speaker 1: didn't negotiate it to be not fair. Well no, but
Speaker 1: they should have known what they were doing obviously, well,
Speaker 1: I guess you should have said, no, I can't trust
Speaker 1: the commissioner. I should have eaten that extra big mac either. Yeah, negotiations.
Speaker 1: I should have gave them one more padded practice back.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, let's go to the phone lines. We
Speaker 1: have Reuben from Austin. What is your question? All right,
Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call. Today's my birthday, so
Speaker 1: after birthday, birthday, Oh, thank you very much. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you a couple of things. First, I guess, Brian,
Speaker 1: if you can kind of come in on this. I
Speaker 1: wanted to know what the development of Jonathan Cooper and
Speaker 1: Lyall Collins has been this season. It just seems like
Speaker 1: they're meshing well together now and just kind of want
Speaker 1: to know what they're doing better. And then second, I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, you know, the injuries, the defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Looking ahead maybe in the draft, who are some good
Speaker 1: one techniques out there, maybe they are projected into the
Speaker 1: first maybe early second that we could get next year.
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I'd love some tickets for the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday. If not, maybe just some Tommy Johns or
Speaker 1: a Paba John pizza. There you go, that's all doable
Speaker 1: right there, probably probably Tommy John's absolutely the uh, I
Speaker 1: don't start looking at drafted players until December fit, so
Speaker 1: give me a month on that. And they're not going
Speaker 1: to draft the defensive tech not not any not in
Speaker 1: the first round. Somebody asked me the question on Twitter
Speaker 1: this morning if they would take a one technique that high,
Speaker 1: and I said they would, Well, they love Collins and
Speaker 1: Irving's playing so great. Why would you do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But the to me though that that you know, keep
Speaker 1: an eye the draft show. We'll start that after the
Speaker 1: after the first of the year, we'll get into that
Speaker 1: and kind of carry. Has anybody realized how well this
Speaker 1: defensive line is playing? No, that's what I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, why all of a sudden now
Speaker 1: it's like, well, they got to draft a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: These guys are pretty good. They're playing well. You know,
Speaker 1: if if losing your back up one technique is going
Speaker 1: to break you, then you're not You're breakable. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we worried about here? Sure, it's interesting to
Speaker 1: be there without If Terroll McClain was here, would you
Speaker 1: think you would see David Irving play as much or
Speaker 1: would he be playing inside might Yeah, he might be.
Speaker 1: He might be rotating with the with the loss of
Speaker 1: with the loss of Terrell McLean, is that actually allowed
Speaker 1: you to develop David Irving? You've gotten to see more
Speaker 1: of him. You only had to sign one. Who would
Speaker 1: you sign McClean or Irving? He already made that choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your answer? They obviously chose Irving right now. They
Speaker 1: did shows. They did shows because they didn't want to
Speaker 1: spend the money. But the thing about okay to the
Speaker 1: development though of Cooper, and actually, he looks far more
Speaker 1: comfortable now playing the guard spot, and the guys around
Speaker 1: him look comfortable with him, you know. And and he's
Speaker 1: he's always been a guy that could play with power
Speaker 1: and that's never been a problem. Some of his early
Speaker 1: problems were worth second level blocks, scoop blocks, reach blocks,
Speaker 1: things like that. He looks far better at doing that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff in the game. And you know, they
Speaker 1: haven't you know, we've seen him do some short pulls
Speaker 1: the traps get him in the outside. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever going to be as good as he was
Speaker 1: at North Carolina he was drafted, but he does flash
Speaker 1: times of good mobility. Collins I thought played really well
Speaker 1: in the game the other day against Justin Huston. It's
Speaker 1: not almost made him just yeah, yeah, two tackles you
Speaker 1: know too for the game. And that's that's incredible because
Speaker 1: usually Justin Houston's a guy that kind of can eat
Speaker 1: you up a little bit, and with him and Tom
Speaker 1: Bahalley on the other side, But yeah, I give Collins
Speaker 1: a lot of credit when I have said it's a
Speaker 1: bunch and I've written it a bunch. When he is bad,
Speaker 1: it's with his hands. We saw it just every time
Speaker 1: you watch him play, if you want to go to
Speaker 1: the game pass stuff. When he misses with his hands,
Speaker 1: he has problems blocking, and it tends to happen to
Speaker 1: him in kind of the little bunches. He'll miss one time,
Speaker 1: he'll miss another time, and then he'll miss a third
Speaker 1: time and then he kind of gets back on track.
Speaker 1: So far less of that in that Kansas City game
Speaker 1: than what he had happened to him in the Washington game.
Speaker 1: I thought Travis Frederick made a really astute comment about
Speaker 1: Cooper last night on Brad's show Cowboys Hour. It was
Speaker 1: they asked him basically that question on why those guys
Speaker 1: that each guy was gonna um kind of talk about
Speaker 1: the guy playing next to him. So Travis had Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cooper and he goes, well, think about it, he goes,
Speaker 1: the guy's been hurt, hadn't played much football, right, got
Speaker 1: to us what the last game of the regular stah,
Speaker 1: So no padded practices right at that point in the season, right,
Speaker 1: he goes. Then we go into the offseason, he goes,
Speaker 1: what do we practice ten ten times? No pads? We
Speaker 1: get the training camp. You practice you know, in pads
Speaker 1: once every well once a day, but that's it. And
Speaker 1: then you get an opportunity to play some preseason games,
Speaker 1: but no real season games. He goes, if you think
Speaker 1: all the time, this guy hasn't played a real game
Speaker 1: in pads, He goes, it's understandable that it probably took
Speaker 1: him a little while to get back in the swing
Speaker 1: of things. He goes in now, he goes, you know,
Speaker 1: he's playing closer to what he was when he because
Speaker 1: they were in the same draft, right right, right, he
Speaker 1: gets drafted North Carolina. He was incredible. He really was
Speaker 1: the mobility that you know, if you had Bernard and
Speaker 1: r I always say his name wrong, Yeah, that you
Speaker 1: watch the tape, You're like, gosh, who's that in front
Speaker 1: of him? And it was it was Jonathan Cooper. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cooper was just so athletic, and you know he got
Speaker 1: banged up. And Mickey's right, I fully respected hey hadn't
Speaker 1: had enough time. But he looks comfortable now playing in
Speaker 1: that spot, and that's what they need him to be
Speaker 1: comfortable in. And I think Zack Martin's point on LC was,
Speaker 1: you know he's also playing a position Heaton brand new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes into One thing I can count on
Speaker 1: him is he will brawl out there. Right goes. It
Speaker 1: didn't matter if he misses something or he doesn't get
Speaker 1: his technique exactly right, he goes, But I can count
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Speaker 1: And I love that about him. So it sounds like
Speaker 1: they're building some cohesiveness on that line. Did that runner too?
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Speaker 1: Are we talking Papa John's Pizza? Oh? We are? Well,
Speaker 1: there's a Cowboys special out there going who I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: And it sounds awfully good, especially when they say you
Speaker 1: could put five ingredients on it. Five so you can't
Speaker 1: have it even you want more vegetables and you want
Speaker 1: more meat. That they made it impossible for you to
Speaker 1: order pizza, then it because you can't make it this
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. Yeah, I want it all. He's always hungry.
Speaker 1: Give me sweet in the kitchen. Sweep the kitchen. I
Speaker 1: like that. We almost brought you guys some coolte pizza yesterday,
Speaker 1: but Mickey decided it was too cold. It was it
Speaker 1: was really cold. It had been there since well, it
Speaker 1: was the pizza, the Papa John's. How could you leave
Speaker 1: Papa John's pizza after the show. Yeah, I didn't eat
Speaker 1: it all. You know what, You know, it's funny. I'm
Speaker 1: not supposed to be eats it, but I'm so superstitious.
Speaker 1: At halftime, we've won the last three games. You have
Speaker 1: one piece at halftime after we do our little halftime
Speaker 1: show in at the studio, and we've won the last
Speaker 1: three weeks, and I just it's so good. Though maybe
Speaker 1: it was Nate's portion. Nate doesn't eat the Papa John,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. We have all those young kids in there
Speaker 1: that don't eat that well surprising, they're all like healthy kids.
Speaker 1: They should because the ingredients, the pepperoni. This thing has
Speaker 1: gone on for two minutes. It is healthy. It's healthy people,
Speaker 1: all right, Robot John's. By the way, your Twitter polls
Speaker 1: save us? All right? Who needs a mickey vote when
Speaker 1: you've got over five thousand Cowboy fans. I'm in on
Speaker 1: it on this one. Well, then you got five thousand
Speaker 1: in one because I fixed my my my Twitter. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got the poll. Four options for mid season MVP.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, the Marcus Lawrence or Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: You guys got mid season MVP. Well, since I finally
Speaker 1: got a chance to vote first, could you vote a chance?
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are five and one with Shawn Lee on
Speaker 1: the field. I will take Sean Lee. Finally, I said,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, you know what I voted, Ezekiel Elliott? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did. Everyone that I liked that five and one though.
Speaker 1: I do like that. It's a great stat Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Dak Prescott because numbers wise, the position
Speaker 1: he plays, kind of having to weather what we talked
Speaker 1: about the offensive line early in the season, no running game,
Speaker 1: running games, struggling. He's weathered all that, and he wins
Speaker 1: the poll forty five percent of the vote. That's pretty close.
Speaker 1: How many people voted over five thousand? There you go,
Speaker 1: thank you folks. Yeah, so how did the other percentages
Speaker 1: work out? Shawn Lee got sixteen percent of the vote,
Speaker 1: that's it? Yeah, I should have voted nine percent. WHOA
Speaker 1: and d Law had thirty percent? All right, so no,
Speaker 1: none of our group picked Law. No, wow, And he's
Speaker 1: been the catalyst right for this. I thought we all
Speaker 1: revived past I took. I took the guy with nine percent,
Speaker 1: you took I took Elliott? You took Elliott? And did
Speaker 1: you take Dak? I mean I took a day oh
Speaker 1: two decks, Okay, five and one with my guy on
Speaker 1: the that's a great number right there. Good research, Mickey,
Speaker 1: five and one, No, that's good research right there. I
Speaker 1: thought of that before I voted. Yeah, Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: Always an informed man. Yes, he is an informed voter
Speaker 1: and decisions not so much. What is your question, um,
Speaker 1: just just uh, just one thing, um about the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I just did what I did, UM. A few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I rewatched all the game, all the games from this season,
Speaker 1: and uh, I noticed that I barely noticed any hesitation
Speaker 1: when they are blocking when the offensive line was looking
Speaker 1: at I really think they're jelling a lot. YEA. And
Speaker 1: my question is by the end, by the end of
Speaker 1: the year, do you think that rod Smith could be
Speaker 1: the backup to Ezeculate yet at running back? Thanks for
Speaker 1: taking Michael, have a great day, Thank you. Great question?
Speaker 1: Is he saying rod Smith now said by the end
Speaker 1: of the year, I think I think they're living their
Speaker 1: starter here in yeah week and I certainly think twenty
Speaker 1: eighteens possibility because those other two guys, Debra a livingstone.
Speaker 1: They value them. They're both veterans, Morris and McFadden, but
Speaker 1: they're earlier for judges over there, both free agents after
Speaker 1: the year. So you're looking at Rod down the road
Speaker 1: and saying, this guy could be your change of face,
Speaker 1: guy who relieves Elliott at times. I don't disagree with
Speaker 1: Robin and depending on what happens. You know, Mickey made
Speaker 1: a great point this a couple of weeks ago about
Speaker 1: he goes, it might be worse it starts, but I
Speaker 1: don't know who necessary is going to finish this thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's onto something there. And uh
Speaker 1: and I will say that that we'll see if this
Speaker 1: thing breaks the way that they know that they don't
Speaker 1: have Ezekiel Olie, you're going to see her a lot
Speaker 1: of rodsman. I think they were getting him ready to
Speaker 1: play last week until the court reversed its decision. Well,
Speaker 1: I did see the owner answered the question why Darren
Speaker 1: McFadden was inactive all this time, and he said, we
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he was healthy and fresh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got suspended. Yeah, Mickey, it's like you have a
Speaker 1: tie with the organization or something like. He's interviewed the
Speaker 1: owner a few times. Owner whisperer you really are? Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Nebbie has a question on Twitter and he said, Hi, everyone,
Speaker 1: do you all believe as I do, we should be
Speaker 1: able to make play against Atlanta's linebackers and coverage. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen Atlanta's linebackers in coverage yet. I'm getting through
Speaker 1: their offense right now. But it's still in three four.
Speaker 1: They are still another playing fourth three four three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that old. It's the Seattle Front, is what it did?
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn? Uh, yeah, you know. The linebackers. Beasley's a
Speaker 1: primary rusher, Dion Jones is a pretty good player at
Speaker 1: Mike linebacker. Don't know much about Devantre Campbell. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll sure take a look at I know we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into that next couple of days. But I
Speaker 1: do I do have a lot of respect Jones. Jones
Speaker 1: made a lot of plays last year as a rookie.
Speaker 1: I mean a ton interceptions, interception returns. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: he tackles. Yeah, right, and I'm here. Is that the
Speaker 1: one that I'm from? Here? Uh, I don't know where
Speaker 1: Dion Jones is from, but anyway he is. He might
Speaker 1: be right, Mickey, but he is. He showed up very
Speaker 1: very well. Don't ask Surrey on the area. If you go,
Speaker 1: I could just keep talking. This series is better than Yeah,
Speaker 1: his suries better than anybody's Surrey by the way, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to see but nebbe, I promise you'll get
Speaker 1: from New Orleans. You know, one thing, just real quick
Speaker 1: looking Atlanta early. Like you said, we'll get into it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: he went to Dave's High School in New Orleans. Oh
Speaker 1: he did, sorry, fight the fighting helmets. Yep. Um. Everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about how their offense has struggled, and it's not
Speaker 1: the same. Defensively. They have six takeaways this year in
Speaker 1: eight games and their minus four with their turnover margin.
Speaker 1: They're just not getting as many possessions and Matt Ryan's
Speaker 1: got the same number of interceptions through eight games as
Speaker 1: he had all last year. So they're not They're just
Speaker 1: not as efficient all the way around as they were
Speaker 1: last Well, there's still the sixth ranked offense in the league. Well,
Speaker 1: I know, but everybody's been talking about how predictable they
Speaker 1: are now and they're not the same. And they still
Speaker 1: got excellent players, and defensively they need to give them
Speaker 1: some short fields. And their defense was ranked higher than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, twelfth, what's what's just looking at some
Speaker 1: of the back end numbers for them, teams have found
Speaker 1: a way. It looks like inside the thirty yard lines,
Speaker 1: opponents passing their last in the league. The quarterback rating
Speaker 1: is one nineteen. So when you get inside the already
Speaker 1: on them. They tend to to give it up there.
Speaker 1: So and they've also looked like that me just I
Speaker 1: just got this. They looks like they've had Uh. Yeah, Rob,
Speaker 1: you're talking about takeaway totals are bad at six and
Speaker 1: and also opponent's rushing for four plus yards on first
Speaker 1: down is twenty ninth fifty percent of the time. They
Speaker 1: were plus eleven turnover margin last year. Yeah, barely lost
Speaker 1: a game where you played a team last year last
Speaker 1: week that was huge on that turn on that turnover margin, right,
Speaker 1: what was it plus sixteen plus ten thirteen takeaway yeah,
Speaker 1: plus ten only three turnovers all fumbles, big factors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you guys think that? Uh, it was going to
Speaker 1: be Alex Smith's first interception here for the Cowboys who've
Speaker 1: who have sometimes struggled with getting picks. I had my
Speaker 1: doubts and the much maligned Jeff Heath too making making
Speaker 1: the picks Jeff just because it was their first pick
Speaker 1: since the second game of the season. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath though he could had two. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he'll get you two interceptions in a game. Man, It
Speaker 1: always do it is he he always he's got he
Speaker 1: gets interceptions. Off big time quarterbacks too, right in that
Speaker 1: kind of his jamis Winston. Okay, well I thought it
Speaker 1: was quarter Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's always kind of taking it off quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that have been pretty good in the leagues. He treats
Speaker 1: them like grapes. What he treats interceptions like grapes. He
Speaker 1: gets them in bunches. Oh oh, nice sky the comedia
Speaker 1: at the Bomb Factors trying, No, I like it. I
Speaker 1: just trying. What was that? I love when Mickey's in
Speaker 1: these foods. It's just the best. And Mickey. Now we're
Speaker 1: seeing all these people who are saying I'd voted for
Speaker 1: Sean Lane too. The people's voice right here. Comments on
Speaker 1: the polls, by the way, are awesome. A lot of
Speaker 1: debate about that pole. That was good. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm glad. Well, you're a brilliant rob Oh,
Speaker 1: Brian helped me with that one. I'm glad Mickey figured
Speaker 1: it out where it was though. Now we can have
Speaker 1: controversial I have a whole column on Twitter in My
Speaker 1: My Little Deal tweet deck, tweet deck. What was this
Speaker 1: that was a plus? In front of at talking cowboys.
Speaker 1: It said plus at talking cowboys, and I finally realized it,
Speaker 1: and so my man William I called him over and
Speaker 1: it's like, what's the deal here? And that's that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be here. He was closest. Okay, you were next down
Speaker 1: the line. Don't need you, don't need it to find
Speaker 1: the twitter pole? He really, I mean it's not William
Speaker 1: or William or whoever is Well, how did you know?
Speaker 1: It doesn't show up? And it never showed up. As
Speaker 1: soon as I got rid of that plus mark there
Speaker 1: no one had to help me, and I let everybody know,
Speaker 1: thanks for help. We'll come up with the good one today, Rob,
Speaker 1: we got it? What is it? What is the one? Today?
Speaker 1: I was working in a movie about old line what's
Speaker 1: the company that does poles? Like nationally? For the gallop? Gallop? Rob,
Speaker 1: gallop over here. It's funny, thank you there ken't play
Speaker 1: the drop? Ken't uh you want to do an old
Speaker 1: line pole? I just felt like that could be something
Speaker 1: of interest. Yeah, what's the question him? We'll think about it,
Speaker 1: oh line. Yeah, we'll have lunch and talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: over a bowler Minestroni GUMBOO day gumbo today Gumbo today,
Speaker 1: I bets think gumbosis can be okay, do you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the meal or just the soup?
Speaker 1: Just okay, guys, Well we know Gumbo Bryant that Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you got about des Bryant, I know that. You know,
Speaker 1: as Garrett always says, he's ok. I don't like hearing
Speaker 1: me and ankle two years ago. Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: dealt with both two years ago and wound up having surgery.
Speaker 1: That's not the case here. He's told us structurally, he
Speaker 1: feels fine. There's nothing serious about it. But you gotta
Speaker 1: he is not missing a chance to play against Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no way, but you know he is not. When
Speaker 1: he strangle him from behind. Oh, he'll do whatever he
Speaker 1: has to do. That's a that's a I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what he these these guys line up to play against
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I mean, these guys really really do this.
Speaker 1: One of one of those two things is very sore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the ankle or the knee.
Speaker 1: He had trouble within. He had trouble with the knee
Speaker 1: at practice. That's kind of why we thought maybe the
Speaker 1: knee had more problems to it. Well, that's right. He
Speaker 1: wound up on the end of earlier. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do some research. Yeah, I think it'd be okay,
Speaker 1: we'll bump into some in the lunch room. We'll figure this.
Speaker 1: Sparence Williams okay, yeah, I think he just he seemed
Speaker 1: fine after the game, like he walked it off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is something I think he's been dealing with all season.
Speaker 1: That hasn't really a rubber man. He hasn't missed any
Speaker 1: practice time. He's rubber man. He just kind of snaps
Speaker 1: back after a game like that. He ain't sitting out. No, heck, no,
Speaker 1: fad me. Do you know they win two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: They have a little bet between the receivers, like who
Speaker 1: has the most You knew about this rumb Yeah, whoever
Speaker 1: whoever has the most after catch, the rest of the
Speaker 1: receivers all have to put in the pot. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Terrence talked about it after. These guys make so much
Speaker 1: money every every Tuesday. But they will fight you for
Speaker 1: a T shirt or a thousand dollars or they will
Speaker 1: they boxing gloves. Oh yeah, they will fight you for Seriously,
Speaker 1: they players, players make They make a great living. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: but they do. It's very I trust me, I understand
Speaker 1: what players do. But they will, you know, you give
Speaker 1: them what you say, oh hey, a T shirt's on
Speaker 1: the line, they will go all out for a T shirt.
Speaker 1: And then the next thing you say, hey, wait, we
Speaker 1: gotta we got a little little jackpot here? How much
Speaker 1: not coach sponsored? Let me tell you that's not you know,
Speaker 1: Saint's got a little trouble for that. But like you know,
Speaker 1: their own little thing, they will they will battle for
Speaker 1: those few hundred dollars. I mean, it's crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about it. That you do blind is a bat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They also do little college beats. You know what, when
Speaker 1: the commissioner comes and asks you to testify, let me know,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the college songs elite as long as the
Speaker 1: team's not. Yeah. Sure. Jannah and Dez Bryant just went
Speaker 1: at it this past weekend, no doubt. Maybe Darren McFadden
Speaker 1: and Lyle Collins will have something on the line this week. Nicky,
Speaker 1: you remember what real quick? Since the guy's gone real quick,
Speaker 1: you remember what testa Verdi used to do on the
Speaker 1: plane flights where you get to draw a card. He
Speaker 1: played like they used to give us our perdemn like
Speaker 1: an envelope and you could draw a card. You gave
Speaker 1: him your perdem and you draw a card. If you
Speaker 1: had high card. You took everybody's perdem. And I think
Speaker 1: they're perdem is probably a little bit more than what
Speaker 1: everybody else, still a little little even I did it.
Speaker 1: Every they need it. They sit in the hotel. Oh
Speaker 1: you ought to hear them carry on. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: But that's what testa Verdi would come. He'd he'd walk
Speaker 1: down the aisle with a deck of cards and you
Speaker 1: got to draw one. I think I lost every single time,
Speaker 1: but I did it. I didn't care. Do you have
Speaker 1: to have a high or low? I forgot hi Hi
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