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Speaker 1: When you hear people question Martin's cognitive ability, and you've

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm in God's half a man.

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Speaker 3: Say he ain't had no stroke, he had no money, right,

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Speaker 3: but you know everybody is a doctor on Google and

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Speaker 3: on on Instagram and all that. You could tell that.

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Speaker 3: You know he's changed, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: when you think about the change that comes from being

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that just calmed down right online.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you and just hilarious. Was almost centerized.

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Speaker 3: Was when I went on the Breakfast Club. She talked

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Speaker 3: about when she was trying to get with me.

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Speaker 2: You know, I tried to throw.

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Speaker 4: Some game on him, but he was like, oh, don't

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Speaker 4: you have a boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: I don't play them games.

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Speaker 3: Try to kill you about that puzzy, But she was

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Speaker 3: like you, he said, I had to be gay because

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Speaker 3: I ain't want to her.

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Speaker 2: Jamie Fox, what's your take on his last Specially?

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it because he reminded people of who he

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Speaker 3: was and like I am.

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Speaker 2: The most talented human ever.

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Speaker 4: And if you ain't talking no dought, then I ain't interested. Look,

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Speaker 4: they say, this guy's the limb, and I'm going farther

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Speaker 4: than that. She get doing on my phone, so I

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Speaker 4: called her mama, come and get your daughter back. They

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Speaker 4: just want a little better than get them boys.

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Speaker 2: Wack or what back? Little one?

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Speaker 4: And I bush your brain but get a hard act.

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Speaker 4: They said, the guy's a limb. I'm going father all

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Speaker 4: you can try to but can't kill ummi bad. I

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Speaker 4: just bought it in life, as in did it side?

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Speaker 4: Come Hi?

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Speaker 2: About that order you leave? The reason you broke?

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Speaker 4: You don't know how to.

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Speaker 4: Red rum red comes out? You know. I'm thinking to

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Speaker 4: the footage as because he never felt want to stick

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Speaker 4: on to the wildness and nail comes round das trying

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 3: I don't with people like that, like on a personal life,

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Speaker 3: like I embraced.

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Speaker 2: People that know me and all that hey is love.

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Speaker 3: But man, I haven't been through too much like nah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I ain't. I don't got

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Speaker 3: to kick it. I ain't got to be around. I'm

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Speaker 3: very self sufficient and self contained. So when I'm able

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Speaker 3: to sit down and just chop it up. Man, that's

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Speaker 3: valuable because this builds character and the energy that you

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Speaker 3: build and what I know, we're giving people from being

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Speaker 3: don't know how to have them conversations or talk through things.

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Speaker 2: And this is an example.

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Speaker 3: Even if they watch this and mimic it to a

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Speaker 2: Man too main I.

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Speaker 3: Mean too, the feeling is one hundred percent mutual. Let's

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Speaker 3: but let's get back to the to the the.

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Speaker 1: Standard specially Yeah, Kevin Hard, I'm sorry in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I shot it in Vegas at the Comrade Hotel. It

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Speaker 3: It's thirty minutes and it was just something that I

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Speaker 3: You gotta do this, you gotta do it this way.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing what I want to do, and whatever comes

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Speaker 3: don't don't, But this was just something that was cool

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of a whole lot of respect

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Speaker 3: I mean. It's clean. I mean, not clean as far

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Speaker 3: But as far as what it looks like, whatever it

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Speaker 2: Through in the city. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, I'm showing up as the best version of myself

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Speaker 2: Do you think show all these written jokes? Did you

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Speaker 3: It's just this is material you know that I know

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Speaker 3: So it was easy for me to go up and

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Speaker 2: Check that out. We definitely checked that out as a community.

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Speaker 2: That's dope. That's dope.

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Speaker 3: five right now? Legends? Let's yeah, let's do Martin. You

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Speaker 2: Let's always be.

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Speaker 1: Beyond my guy, man, Martin, what do you before we

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Speaker 3: I bet I did shows with him for real? You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just like being able to meet him

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then but is he up there with those

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think so across the board if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. But personally quake earthquake.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jesus, man, he's one of the coolestness in

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Speaker 3: One of his partners is dudes. That dude that roll

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Speaker 3: He always called me and showed me the type of

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Speaker 3: Man, it's so many man, The Veil Crawford, The Veil

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Speaker 3: You know keV. We gotta respect all the things that

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Speaker 2: Just what about Steve? Steve?

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Speaker 3: Steve, and Steve is an enigma to me? Steve is

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Speaker 3: That's what I watched Steve for because it's like family

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Speaker 2: Get around him and nobody doing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like saying, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: it's just like that's the thing about naming people. Man,

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Speaker 3: So there's so many man dudes that's in this game

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Speaker 3: I love that dude, and he always showed me love

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Speaker 1: Make a connection. Man, when he come down, I got.

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Speaker 1: I definitely want to see a good, good guy man.

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Speaker 3: I said that, and he unapologetic and respect love that.

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Speaker 2: And when that's kind of different from man rap rap.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to me, you can you know, you

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Speaker 3: A lot of dudes recognize that. And it's red in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't appreciate that or respect it. When when

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Speaker 3: Because the conversations that we've had, I can tell that

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Speaker 2: I just think that he just he just slowed down. Man.

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Speaker 3: I think that God put his hand on him. It

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Speaker 3: his word, you know what I mean. If a man

442
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 3: say he ain't had no stroke, he ain't had no stroke.

443
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: So who am I to say, yes you did because

444
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: you talk slower that you used to talk. But you know,

445
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: everybody is a doctor on Google and on the on

446
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: Instagram and all that. But being around him and having

447
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: dialogue with him, I can see that, you know, he

448
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 3: just man, he slowed down and been through a lot. Man,

449
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: I went to his house for the first time and

450
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: sat with him, and God rest his soul. The dude

451
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: that played Nipsey on the show, and it was his

452
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: best friend. And you looked around and all of the

453
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 3: dudes that were around him back then was still around

454
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: him now. And that counts to me that when I

455
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: see that, it's like, Okay, that means regardless of what

456
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: you were to the people that came in to your circumference,

457
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: the people that were around your people something that meant something,

458
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: they still around you. So that means that that whatever

459
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: that happened to him or whatever he went through, they

460
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: knew it wasn't him and they stayed around and helped

461
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: him through that.

462
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: So that's what I think it is.

463
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, people are quick to

464
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: judge when you when they've been able to watch you

465
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: for thirty plus years and you change in front of him.

466
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: I just think that he slowed down. He slowed his

467
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: life down, and you get high down too. He smoked weeds,

468
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: like you said, dodgy and all that. But you know,

469
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: we all know what he went through. We all saw

470
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: what he went through. You know what I'm saying. He's

471
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: discussed what he went through. But you know, he just

472
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: he just slow that. He just slowed down.

473
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 4: Man.

474
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 3: I think when you slow down as a black man,

475
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 3: and people used to you moving around as much as

476
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: he did, the nigga was you got to think about

477
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: the speed and which he operated with. This man with

478
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: eight different people on his own show that we all

479
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: respect is their own individual characters. Oh my god, Mike

480
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: Mama is Martin Mama. Dragonfly Jones is Dragonfly Jones. You know,

481
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Oldest is oldest, Roscoe is Roscoe, these are there. Oh

482
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: this is him though, So you think about how much

483
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: he moved and how much he did and how much

484
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: of all of the different people that he had to

485
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: be in one person and then to go and to

486
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: do the movies and to do the stand up and

487
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: to be the host of Death Jam and do all

488
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: these different things.

489
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: That nigga was moving like a and he covered a

490
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: lot of ground. He slowed that. I just think he

491
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: slowed down. Man.

492
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to you know, because everybody still

493
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: watch Martin. Everybody still watching Martin. So you're watching that

494
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, like, I want to see the old man,

495
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: but he not.

496
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: He the old Martin.

497
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's you know what I'm saying, the old

498
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: Martin now, so you you can't.

499
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: If you want to see the.

500
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: Old Martin, go see the old Martin still out here,

501
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: you know what i mean. But watching that, you're doing

502
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: yourself a dessert something. It's like if Jordan, you know

503
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, If you put Jordan on the court

504
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: right now, that nigga not gonna look like the nigga

505
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: that wore them twelve.

506
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: Right.

507
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: But that's sometimes that's the that's the the detriment of

508
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: being so historic, it's such a legend. It's that they

509
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: take that safe chance.

510
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 3: You comparing them to his older self, You're not comparing

511
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: them to what he's doing now. You only can compare

512
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: somebody that's been that great to their own greatness.

513
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: That's just that's the gift and the curse of.

514
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: Being great, you know what i mean, Like, people are

515
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 3: only gonna compare you to what you did before.

516
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: And speaking of Jordan, he just had a thing that

517
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: he had a video that actually went viral, And the

518
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: reason it went viral is because he was playing golf.

519
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: He swung and kind of stumbled and people was like,

520
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: oh man, Jordan's stumbled. Yeah, they don't even expect a

521
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: sixty year old.

522
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: Man be off balance, you know what I'm saying. But

523
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 3: that's just that's that's their greatness. Yeah, but that would

524
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: would greats. And usually what a lot of people don't

525
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: talk about when it comes to being great is usually

526
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: people love to see great marks fail, do they. It's

527
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: just inevitable. People love to sup to tell you to fall.

528
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: It's just because they've never experienced greatness. And they say, oh,

529
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: welcome back to the mediomy that I operate in, you

530
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

531
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: So I just look at it like that, like and

532
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: being around him.

533
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: If I hadn't been around him, then I probably wouldn't

534
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: be I don't think I would be able to say

535
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: that I didn't think anything was wrong or that that happened,

536
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 3: because I would only be comparing it to what I

537
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: see like everybody else. But I've been in this man's presence,

538
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: I've been around him, I've spoke to him, I've been

539
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: to his home, and it just slowed down.

540
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: Man, that's all. He just man like.

541
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: Man.

542
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: You know, I ain't moving.

543
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: Like I used to move, No more moving like I

544
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: used to move and had me going through all that

545
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: shit I went through, you know what I'm saying.

546
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: And from a joke writing perspective, is he still dropped? Well,

547
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you in that position, but

548
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: from a joke writing perspective, has he slowed down?

549
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: And that still hilarious? Man?

550
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 3: You go see him me still he's just in a

551
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: different pocket now, you know what I'm saying. He ain't

552
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: running around, but it ain't that that's what you're looking

553
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: to see. That's not what but he's going to. But

554
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 3: the good part about it is he addresses it. And

555
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: that's all you can ask for, is the addressing of

556
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: whatever it is that every the elephant in the room.

557
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: He addresses. He don't run from it. Can black comics

558
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: evolve or do they do? They kind of make out

559
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: to be.

560
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to evolve, But it's kind of

561
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: difficult to evolve when you've been that many people in

562
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 3: front of us likes, not all of.

563
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: Them, but the next one, you know.

564
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, The next we devalue proud exactly, you

565
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

566
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: So it's very difficult to do that.

567
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: And in certain senses, you know what I'm saying. When

568
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: it comes to somebody who has been Mount Rushmore. Gris

569
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: why Eddie probably ain't that did another stand up special yet.

570
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: No matter how good it is, how.

571
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: Good everybody is going now and now, all of the

572
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: ways that you can critique, see, that's our generation.

573
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: We used to the critique these things, used to the critique,

574
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? They don't know, like yeah,

575
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: but when.

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: You that's what I applaud Martin for because he's getting

577
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: out there and he's facing it, you know, they asking

578
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: him about it on the Breakfast Club and he's talking

579
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: about it and seeing all the comments that people saying, man,

580
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: stop playing. You know you had a goddamn sure, you

581
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: know something wrong with you, you know, and having to

582
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: deal with that and see that and still be able

583
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: to function when you come from a time where that

584
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: didn't exist, all that should let you know that cognitively,

585
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: he's still there, and they wrong mind definitely shut him

586
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: down like that shut him down if he was fragile,

587
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: if his mindset was fragile dealing with this new age.

588
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm not coming out here. I'm done.

589
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: I don't got to, and I'm reaching all of these things.

590
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm richer than Yeah, I got more money than I

591
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: don't have to be out here. Yeah, you know what

592
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm still operating on the level of where

593
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: I understand it. I still got something to offer. And

594
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: I think that he appreciates the game and understands it

595
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: so much and loves it so much that if he

596
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: really didn't have anything to offer, he wouldn't be out

597
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: here cheating nobody.

598
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: And he not. You know what I'm saying.

599
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: We watched I sat and watched him and on this

600
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: particular tour, and this was my first time seeing him

601
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: do stand up because the last to the first time

602
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: I work with him, he just MC he hosted. This

603
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: is my first time seeing him to an hour set

604
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh man, just he hilarious. Were still laughing.

605
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: He funny as a mother, and he's talking about all

606
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: the things that were wondering if he's gonna say something

607
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: about he come out on the stage and you know

608
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: what I mean.

609
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: This looked like that.

610
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I wouldn't you literally wouldn't

611
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: be able to do that if that was my reality.

612
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: I'm just a different man. I got a belly now,

613
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: I'm a grandfather. Still want me to goddamn be Dragonfly

614
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Jones let That's what I'm talking about. That that divide

615
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: to where we don't leave the space open for our

616
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: people to evolve and show up old in front of us,

617
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: and we still take them at what they what it

618
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: is they do. I still can say, baby, and in

619
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: a sense, but I'm not gonna be able to come

620
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: out here and run around and do all this that

621
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: I do.

622
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: But I gave it to you.

623
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: All right, it's there for you that you still enjoy it.

624
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: Let me let me give you something different, let me

625
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: still be the person that you love.

626
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I asked, do you think you got

627
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: They kind of try to stick you in that box

628
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: whatever they love you, ass No, the same way we

629
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: do with characters like Tarik's son on Power or goos

630
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Son on Power to Reiku. People gonna call him to

631
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: re Yeah, they don't give a damn what role.

632
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's just that's you know, when you do

633
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: something so good, that's kind of like that's part of

634
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: part of it. But you know, but like I said,

635
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: that's why I pride myself on being able to reintroduce

636
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: myself and do things that people don't expect you to

637
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: do and see you in a different light. Because cause

638
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: you know, eventually it's all going to be encompassed in

639
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: whatever your legacy is. And more that you do, the

640
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: more people are gonna be able to see you do

641
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: things in a different light. And I just think that,

642
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, when you do it in the time before

643
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: social media, where people weren't connected as much as we

644
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: connected now, it had a different aura to it.

645
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: Like back then when it was in a movie. In

646
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: a movie when.

647
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: It had a stand up, specially you had a stand up,

648
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: specially when it had an album. He had an album,

649
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: you had to go to Tower Records and stand in

650
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: line and purchase this CD and wait till you got

651
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: to where you was at, or if you ain't have

652
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: a walk man, get in your car and bust the

653
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: plastic open and read the book and put the CD

654
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: in it, listen to it and live with it.

655
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Now you know what I mean.

656
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: So instant gratification.

657
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: It's instant gratification.

658
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: So the people that come from that era, in my opinion,

659
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: they're always he's going to have a rough time being

660
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: able to readjust to the gratification because now I'm sure

661
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: that were people who can't stand Martin back.

662
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Speaker 2: Then, but we didn't know who they was.

663
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna know exactly who a lot of gonna

664
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Speaker 1: galvanize all of the other people who feel that way

665
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Speaker 1: or just want to be a part of something, gonna

666
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Speaker 1: act like they feel that way to try to get

667
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Speaker 1: your attention. That's another part of it they didn't have

668
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Speaker 1: to deal with, is the troll. Yeah, because a lot

669
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Speaker 1: of people really still thank you funny.

670
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: But it's funny. Yeah, it's funny.

671
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: It's funny to get in the comments and hope that

672
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: you respond and and and engage with you, because that's

673
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: how close we are to celebrity. I said this to

674
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Martin the first time we met. I was like, man,

675
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: that's crazy. You made me feel like I didn't need

676
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: to take a picture with you.

677
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Thank you. You know what I'm saying.

678
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: That's how personal, that's how personable you. He was with me, Like, man,

679
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: I I don't even need to ask you for no picture.

680
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna see you right like. That is

681
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: something that I still appreciate because I know that the

682
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: distance between what you were to me when I was

683
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: boy a world, the way a whole world, the way

684
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: inside that box was another world. Now, man, people that

685
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: love Chico Bean man, just hey.

686
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Speaker 2: You yeah as yeah, yeah, yeah, hoping you yeah, act

687
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: like you had to just say the most outlandish to

688
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: you and then you respond, now, bro, I'm a fan

689
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: of your work.

690
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just want to get that to me,

691
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: do that to you that that's just the way to

692
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: get your attention. I hadn't apologize to it today. For

693
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Speaker 3: I can't say that I wouldn't have did that. If

694
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Speaker 3: I'd have known it that would have got persons that

695
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Speaker 3: I iverson's attention back in the day. I can't say

696
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't have did that as a kid or

697
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: as a teenager. But or I can't say that I

698
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have asked it for fifty thousand dollars. Ever, I'm

699
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: might have been like, hey, let me get fifty thousand

700
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Speaker 3: slim for about whatever. You know what I'm saying. I

701
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: can't be mad at that. That's just the way the

702
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: world is now. You gotta understand the change, Yes, what

703
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: for people? That in my opinion, for people, man, the

704
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: people that gave us the blueprint to make us want

705
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: to be entertainers or to make us enjoy entertainment the

706
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: way that we do. Man, open your mind and let

707
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: them people show up if they still are giving you

708
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: a quality show or they giving you a quality product,

709
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Speaker 3: Embrace it, man, don't turn your back on them because

710
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: they're old or because they you know, don't do it

711
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: the same way you fell in love with him for

712
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 3: doing it, you know what I'm saying, Like, just because

713
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: ron Osley sitting down singing now, don't mean that you

714
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: he ain't stand up, And so what was the song

715
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: that he's still singing the song the same way Smokey

716
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Robinson moving across the stage slow the eighty He been

717
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: doing this for sixty years.

718
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: You gotta appreciate the fact that this is still able

719
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: to do a little something that would be Yeah, you

720
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: got to you know what I'm saying. What about what's

721
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: your take another comedian who we grew up on, Jamie Fox,

722
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: what's your take on his last special?

723
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it because it was just a real He

724
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: reminded people of who he was, and I think that

725
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: he needed to do that. That's what I felt like,

726
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: That's what that felt like, That's what he wanted to do.

727
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: But like he just reminded people like I am one,

728
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: if not the most talented human ever. Yes, Like literally,

729
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: when you think about all that Jamie acting singing. I'm

730
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: talking about comedian, comedian, every cruist everything. I saw a

731
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: clip of this. I saw a clip of this hosting

732
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: a tribute to Stevie Wonder and this was from like

733
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: two thousand. Man, if you look this clip up, man

734
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Speaker 3: and uh uh what's my man name from? From Great Britain,

735
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm having the brain fall loom the white dude, Uh

736
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: rocket man, you don't know what I'm talking.

737
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: Elton John, Elton, Elton John. Yeah, we both was having.

738
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: Elton John had.

739
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: Did a tribute to Stevie Wonder and he said something.

740
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: She was like, Steve Yeah, yeah, and this Jamie star

741
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: mocking this Stevee. I guess that's what they meant when

742
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: you when they say you put some stink on it, Stevelle,

743
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Lili you Stevelle. It was like, that's what you got

744
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: to say when you see it, Stevee. And it was

745
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: just like that natural and you saw that. The CEO

746
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: of BT at the time, Bob Johnson, was just looking like,

747
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: you know, you're not ever getting out yeh yeah. But

748
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: that natural ability to be able to do that and

749
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: think about this has platinum albums with an s on

750
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: it multiple stand up specials, an Oscar. We're playing one

751
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: of the most iconic musicians ever, Willie Beaman the Jamie

752
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: Fox Show.

753
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: This man, it's like the different man.

754
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 3: He a different monster, and I think coming back from

755
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: whatever he went through, he probably wanted to avoid what

756
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: Martin just waved off for a long time before he

757
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: jumped back out there and letting people see, hey, I'm

758
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: still me.

759
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: I still got it.

760
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: And if you know, you gotta go see Martin to

761
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: see that he's still now if you're looking for that,

762
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: and that's what I'm saying, Jamie ain't the Jamie from

763
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: the Jamie Fox Show.

764
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: He was real.

765
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: You know, he's still able to do it, but he

766
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: ain't moving around like he was moving around back then,

767
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And he ain't get it

768
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: all the way on the piano and you know what

769
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: I mean, like doing six different things on one show.

770
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: But he ain't me in living color like this like Wanda,

771
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: all these different things that he's done. Man, man, it's like,

772
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: this is literally one of the most talented people ever.

773
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: And I think that that was just a reminder of

774
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: what he was and if you look, if you were

775
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: looking for this, you know, gut busting laughter and all.

776
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: If you feel like you didn't get that, I can

777
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: understand that because that's what you used to getting. But hey,

778
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: I just came out of coma. You know what I'm saying,

779
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: almost died. Give me a chance to get back release.

780
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: I got this to you. Ungrateful to them. Man, this

781
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: is terrible to tell you a chance you didn't die

782
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: on it.

783
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Don't be funny. I he laughed at my stomach, Curt.

784
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: Man with my phone at this corneous man should have

785
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: went ahead and all the way died for this.

786
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: It's just like.

787
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: Now I want to I also want to get your

788
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: opinion on. Of course, like we said, Chappelle is one

789
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: of the goats.

790
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: What's his name?

791
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Jared Carmike Rock, Gerard Carmichael, I know Gerard said that.

792
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: He said that.

793
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: He came out and said, Dave Chappelle's legacy might end

794
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: up being just a long argument about trans jokes.

795
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: And since then they've been I guess, going back and forth.

796
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: He says, Dave Chappelle's legacy is a bunch of opinions

797
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: about trans That's a crazy thing to say about a

798
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: living legend. But then Chappelle claps back and calls Girard

799
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: an ego maniac. Yeah, so they have kind of have

800
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: the culture split down the middle. Yeah you haven't. Have

801
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: you heard of it? You haven't heard none of that.

802
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was at the comedy store, And it was

803
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: at the comedy Store in La where Gerard came out

804
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: and said that I think he's came out.

805
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: As its gay. Yeah for sure, I know. I know

806
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: his brother. He from Winston where I went to school

807
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: at Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

808
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: But do you think something is out of line for

809
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Gerard to say something like that?

810
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: You say whatever you want to say.

811
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of the business that we're in, and

812
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: that's the beauty of comedy alternative perspective. If that's the

813
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: way you feel, then I can understand that. And being

814
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: a gay man, you know, you repping for your side.

815
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I ain't mad at a

816
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: nigga for repping for your side. I disagree with his assessment, though,

817
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: how to they trans jokes like he ain't start doing

818
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: that until like that wasn't even a thing when Dave

819
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: was like killing him softly is one of the best

820
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: stand up specials ever. Yes, it's not one trans joke

821
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: in that special. So I just think that the you know,

822
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: now that we've started to discuss these things more, now

823
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: you got more people coming out with their opinions about it.

824
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: But I totally disagree with his assessment on that being

825
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: Dave's legacy.

826
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

827
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he said that, and he also do you

828
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: think Chappelle is still moving the needle with his.

829
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: Cor question out question?

830
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: Because whenever he come out and say something, people talk

831
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: about it. You know what I'm saying, No matter what

832
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: it is that he's talking about it, he's always going

833
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: to be able to give social commentary in a way

834
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: that it's going to move the needle. Yeah, you know

835
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: what I'm saying in some way, shape or form, you know,

836
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: whether it be on a Saturday Night live monologue or

837
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: on his own stand up specials or you know, it's

838
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: just certain things that he's able to talk about in

839
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: a perspective that people want to hear. And it's it's

840
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: across the board. It's not just black, it's not just white.

841
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: We both want to tune in. As you know, America

842
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: has that it's been able to do that because you

843
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: have somebody like dal who is very, very big in

844
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: a political space. But you know what I mean, it's

845
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: more catered towards what we feel and what we think.

846
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: And you know the other side is really beefing with

847
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: him because of his perspective. They'll beef with Dave, but

848
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: they want him to come over and say.

849
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna beef with you.

850
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the show.

889
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Dave did have a couple of years where to try

890
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: thing was the thing because they will push. Are you

891
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: ever scared to breach certain topics in common?

892
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm also not going to force myself to

893
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 3: talk about I don't give a about either.

894
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Now, if you receive backlash, do you do you feel

895
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: a responsibility to take that on stage on your next

896
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: set to clarify your position or address I mean no,

897
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: unless it's something that if I hurt somebody that I

898
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: care about and they think I'm being malicious, then yeah.

899
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: But outside of that, no, not at all.

900
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 3: Like you gotta understand, I received backlash from a lot

901
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: of shit I done said, you know what I'm saying,

902
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: Like from people that you don't want, no backlash from.

903
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: Like man, you remember when I first went on the

904
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club talking about relationships black women was kicking my ass. WHA, Yeah,

905
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: it was bad, but I am I welcome that because

906
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: that's really how I feel. So I welcome the conversation,

907
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 3: and I welcome you having a conversation with a nigga

908
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: you think don't think like me and seeing how he

909
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: address it. But no, but that's the thing that I

910
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: thing helps me. I'm not going to force myself to

911
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: talk about nothing that because it's topical, is popular right now.

912
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm not.

913
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't give a I don't care who you choose

914
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: to stick your dig in or if you still got

915
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: one or you don't.

916
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: It's your business. I don't care.

917
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: Don't move me. You know what I'm saying. I'm not offended.

918
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm not offended. I'm not

919
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: a person that is, you know, bothered by whatever you

920
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: choose to do.

921
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

922
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 3: Now, if somebody was to cost me in a way

923
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: that I feel uncomfortable with, and I would address that

924
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 3: to that person. But I don't feel the need to. Hey,

925
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: all you chicks with dicks and all that wild, Nah,

926
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: that's not right. I think that saves me because I

927
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: feel like if I forced myself to have dialogue about

928
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: something because that's what's popular or that's what's popping to

929
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: talk about, nah, I talk about the I want to

930
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: talk about, and if I ever decided that's something I

931
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: want to discuss, then I will, and.

932
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: You was discuss it.

933
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Like the one thing they can't take from Chappelle is

934
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: he discussed some of these things and he's well versed

935
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: in the topic, so it's not something it doesn't feel

936
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: like he's uninterested in what.

937
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: He's speaking about.

938
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: And that's the thing I would have to be, well,

939
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: it would have to be something that is entertaining, not

940
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: even entertaining that it's interesting to me, yes, for me

941
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: to ever want to address it, because I'm not about

942
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: to just start talking about some just because you know,

943
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: everybody else feels like, oh it's it's the you know,

944
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: the thing that's on the map, the calendar of the

945
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: month for the year of what everybody's talking about.

946
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

947
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 3: I've never been under the pressure to do I do

948
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: what I want to do, and I think that's what

949
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: makes me the comedian that I am. I don't give

950
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: a fuck. I'm gonna say what I want to say. Now,

951
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: I run the risk of offending somebody with everything that

952
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: I say, but that's just the risk I'm willing to take.

953
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: With the business that I'm in. But I know that

954
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm genuine in my sentiment and I'm not trying to

955
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: be malicious. But if you don't like the way I

956
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: feel about something that cool, just like it over there.

957
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: Right.

958
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Also, with Gerard saying that about Shapille, I think it's

959
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: interesting because you have some people saying, would he say

960
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: that about a white comedian legend?

961
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: Right?

962
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Because you have people like Bill Burr who will also

963
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: have tooken up certain stance on like those commune without

964
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: question that I'm not sure someone will smear and yeah,

965
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: but he not gonna say that because you don't look

966
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: up to Bill Burr the same way you look up

967
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: to Dave Chappelle. That was trying to be Dave Chappelle

968
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: in a lot of senses in regards to you know,

969
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: the trajectory that he first came in the game, but

970
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: that's what they would touting him as the next Chappelle. Okay,

971
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: So if you come out as something that you feel

972
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: like that person that you idolize, don't embrace let you die.

973
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: It'll make you.

974
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: Would taste in your off It'll be like you know

975
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, if you know, just taking it to sports,

976
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: if you you know what I mean if you the

977
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: young young star, up and coming college athlete and your

978
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: favorite quarterback is, you know, Jalen Hurts, and you get

979
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: to go to the game and you Jalen Man, you

980
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: mind if I man get your goofast, so you eat

981
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: shrimp whatever the thing. Yeah, and the moment you get

982
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: to you know that start to have a bad season

983
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: and throwing interceptions and you might be the man.

984
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: Now.

985
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: First thing you're gonna say, as well, you know, if

986
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: he would have, you know, embrace shrimp, then maybe he would,

987
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: you know, have a little bit better nutrition.

988
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: And right, you know what I'm saying. I think that's

989
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: what that is.

990
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: I think it's all personal than anything, because that sounded

991
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: personal to me because I think he knows that that's

992
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: you're talking about Dave. Like, come on, Dave is prolific

993
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: in his perspective. He's always been prolific in his perspective.

994
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: Whether you agree with his perspective or not, you can't

995
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: take away from the fact that he's prolific in his

996
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: delivery and the things that he talks about on stage,

997
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: like if you watch killing them softly, like his one

998
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: of his first jokes is about d C and I

999
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: remember being a young watching it. He was like white

1000
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: people used to look at d C from Virginia like Nope,

1001
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: not yet. And then he said, now you walk up

1002
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: to him, eye is wrong with you? Those days are

1003
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: over now, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, just

1004
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: that alone, that perception and perspective is real. And that

1005
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: was the beginning of gentrification for us. We were experiencing it.

1006
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: But his ability to be able to put that in

1007
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: joke for him, it's prolific to me.

1008
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: Type it in the real time.

1009
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: And then some that you know ain't real about a

1010
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: drug dealing baby and you know what I'm saying, all

1011
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: of those things from that special that you but that's prolific.

1012
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: And then you talking about the Chappelle Show. What well, Mom,

1013
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: come on, man, just mad because you feel like he's

1014
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: not embracing what you embrace.

1015
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: And that's okay. That you're right. You know.

1016
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: I will fight for everybody's right to say whatever they

1017
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: want to say. That's something that I was staying for.

1018
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: No matter what it is you want to say, I

1019
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: will fight for your right to see it. But the

1020
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: griants that's something different. You know what I mean, You

1021
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: have the right to say it. But you got to

1022
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: take will come with it. And I think that's just

1023
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: a personal thing that he got going on.

1024
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1025
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: Also online, I seen you and Just Hilarious was almost

1026
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: in a relationship like that. What I seen you ain't

1027
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: seen nothing like that, said.

1028
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: You and Just Hilarious got into some kind of situation

1029
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: or his Windy Williams with that question, Loney Williams, that's

1030
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 3: your name for that question.

1031
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: I promise you I happened. Explain, Claric. What happened was

1032
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: when I went on the breakfast club.

1033
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: She talked about when she was trying to get with me,

1034
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: and I was I wasn't giving her no action because

1035
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: she had a man, and I don't play them games

1036
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: and try to kill you about that puzzy. Sure, I'm not, Nah,

1037
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: you gotta and she was still trying to throw it

1038
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, get the so where you gotta do?

1039
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: And she was like, well, it's gay, you know what

1040
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's the beef that gets said. She

1041
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: said you I had to be gay because I ain't

1042
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: want to with her what So that was the dialogue

1043
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: that we had. But you know what I'm saying, that

1044
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: was where that came from. But yeah, I don't play

1045
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: them type of games man like, and I'm you know,

1046
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: I treat my dick like I treat my Social Security number.

1047
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm real selective. Everybody can't get you get to give

1048
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: it to the wrong your life. You know what I'm saying,

1049
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: You're through So when you got a man, I ain't

1050
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: playing them type of games because you think that whatever,

1051
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, he show up and you

1052
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 3: never know, and I ain't willing to take that risk.

1053
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: It ain't worth it, no matter how good your pussy is,

1054
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: it ain't worth what I'm gonna have to do to

1055
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: this person or what he gonna try to do to

1056
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: me in order for me to get it. It's too

1057
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 3: many of them out here. And that's where that came from.

1058
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: But just my love, Jess Man, Jess was, you know,

1059
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: talking as we always do, like that's one of the

1060
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: people that you know as a peer that I respect.

1061
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: And then we got that DC Baltimore thing that we

1062
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: always go back and forth about. But that's what that was. Like,

1063
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: I wasn't going.

1064
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. I don't. I don't want to be

1065
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: involved with that either.

1066
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: It's too high risk, too high rist nick can legally,

1067
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: damn Nick Kid, you better.

1068
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: And did say he wouldn't crazy like I was.

1069
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: And I'm saying playing like that, like get the one

1070
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, I'm being as far

1071
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: from tender, Like I don't give a fuck about none

1072
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: of that. I don't care who you, what, you what,

1073
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: as long as you got that under control. But once

1074
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: you say boyfriend and relationship, ain't no control, because that

1075
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: means that you've entered into an agreement of compromise. And

1076
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: what compromise means, in my opinion, is one party is

1077
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 3: agreeing not to be satisfied with the outcome. So whenever

1078
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: you're doing that, whenever you involve somebody else in that scenario,

1079
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: then that means that now the compromise that they have

1080
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: been making for you has been jeopardized by you going

1081
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: out and doing some other ship and usually ain't gonna take.

1082
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: It out on you.

1083
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 3: And even if he do take it out on you,

1084
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't want the conscious. Are you coming up swollen

1085
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: and beat your ass and gave me some pussy?

1086
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even want to be involved. Yeah, I

1087
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: don't want not. Noah, I'm good.

1088
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: I didn't seen it too many times, and I didn't

1089
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: been through it, and I didn't been in that used

1090
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 3: to and then went through that type of man, I didn't.

1091
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: I ain't never been there kind of just because of

1092
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: that and not on purpose though, like I was never

1093
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: seeking it out, but that just happened, and I hadne

1094
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: dealt with.

1095
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1096
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: I don't even want to talk about none of this.

1097
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 3: I pride myself on not telling none of these stories

1098
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: on camera because I just think that that's ignorant personally.

1099
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: That's my personal vantage point of just telling war stories

1100
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: and going through all that all that shit. But I

1101
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: didn't been through some arounties out here, man, these had

1102
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: you you in the mix man for real bad I'm

1103
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: talking about Damn bad So and I. But I never

1104
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: blamed the woman. It's always our fault as the man.

1105
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: It's always some precaution that you didn't take as a

1106
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 3: man that put you in that predicament. It's always your fault.

1107
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: I never blamed the woman, you know what I'm saying,

1108
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Because anytime even if she lied to you, man, that's

1109
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 3: your fault. You didn't do that, that's your faults lied

1110
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: to you. That means that you didn't do the proper

1111
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: protocol to be able to identify books in your life,

1112
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: or you put yourself in a position that mind you

1113
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: getting lied to it. You know, it's kind of shaky

1114
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: because you depending on what the lie is, you know

1115
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They don't got no man, like we

1116
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: saw trouble a house and come in and killed right.

1117
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: But to see that's the thing that right there is

1118
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: a little different because that might not have been a lie.

1119
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: That might not have been her man. He just might

1120
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: have been that was a jealous ass. But that's the

1121
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: risk you take and not being more inquisitive about the situation,

1122
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But those type of situations,

1123
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: we all run the risk of that and rest in

1124
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: peace of trouble. That was a situation where we all

1125
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: and took them. I know I didn't been in an

1126
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: apartment complex, but I don't do it no more. But

1127
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 3: I used to know we all didn't run the risk

1128
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 3: too with knocked on the door and try to come

1129
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: through the wind. I done been through all of that,

1130
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 3: and it's just like you know what I mean, it's

1131
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: us and when you're blessed enough to make it out

1132
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 3: of that situation with with your mind intact.

1133
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1134
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: You gotta know that, man, I gotta I gotta take

1135
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: better precaution as a man, because that woman is only

1136
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, most of the time they looking for companionship

1137
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: and some dick that's worthy of the time that they

1138
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: spend giving the pussy to. So's if you providing that

1139
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: you always gonna be welcome, you know what I mean,

1140
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: or you ain't gonna worry about asking your way in

1141
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: like senters, they gonna welcome you, you know what I mean,

1142
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: especially if you a certain type of you're gonna get

1143
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: in there. So it's like you run it. But that's

1144
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: the thing, you still running the risk playing them game

1145
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: because you never know what a mark got going on.

1146
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: So that's why I always look at it from the

1147
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: perspective of being truthful. Like the moment I catch you

1148
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: with me, I don't care what it's about, I'm out

1149
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: of there because that means that it's probably a need

1150
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: that's believe in you on a whole another grandiose scale.

1151
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: And and I'm thinking, we just cool and we out around

1152
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: and come blow my brains out because I'm with you,

1153
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: and it's nothing that you you ain't gonna see it coming.

1154
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: That's what's crazy.

1155
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, for his situation as

1156
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: where is like damn, just just imagine.

1157
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: You laid up with just broad you know, y'all laying

1158
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: down you look up, it's in him.

1159
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's nothing you can do. And this is

1160
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: a well respectedness and it can and you God like that,

1161
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: so off off that, you know what I'm saying. So

1162
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: and it's like you can never come back from that.

1163
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: And it's sad because we as you know what I'm saying,

1164
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: the value that we have, it take us so long

1165
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: to recognize that value within ourselves.

1166
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: And know that man, I'm you know what I mean,

1167
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm better than this.

1168
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 3: But then the thing is, there's a level of trust

1169
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: that you because there are certain women that I trust

1170
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: enough to go to your house.

1171
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 2: But I ain't got none of them yet. I mean no,

1172
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: it's a few of them.

1173
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: But these are women that you've been you know what

1174
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 3: we gotta build that you build it up for hisars

1175
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: for years, but still you never know, and that's the risk.

1176
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: You take, so might make a key to her.

1177
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certain precautions that I always take if I'm

1178
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: gonna do that, but I gotta be I'm not doing

1179
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm never doing it with the intended because I learned

1180
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: from situations like trouble or my own partners that have

1181
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 3: been done like that. I got a partner that God

1182
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: rest his soul, that got done the same way up

1183
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: in the apartment with something. They didn't left the key

1184
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: and he went up in there and was in there

1185
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: waiting on him.

1186
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: Damn over with you know what I'm saying.

1187
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: So if I'm gonna come to your house, and I'm

1188
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: gonna be at your house, then you know what I mean.

1189
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: It's a certain level of precaution that I'm taking and

1190
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 3: coming over there. And if you lying, I'm getting immediately.

1191
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't care what it's about. You know what I'm saying.

1192
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: I didn't lying about all simple dump and that let

1193
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: me know that it's probably another that believe everything you say.

1194
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: And I know that I'm not pointing a conversation of reference,

1195
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: but I know I will be if you ever want

1196
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: to make this right, Yeah, let me remove myself.

1197
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, I want to ask you a

1198
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: couple more things then we'll get out of here. So

1199
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: the US Department of Justice, along with thirty states and

1200
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: District Attorneys has filed an anti trust lawsuit against ticket

1201
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Master and its parent company, Live Nation Entertainment.

1202
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: The suit of.

1203
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: Led US Secretary the US Department of Justice. Department of Justice.

1204
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've stepped in with an anti trust lawsuit, and

1205
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: what they're legend is that they have monopolized practices that

1206
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: inflate ticket prices and burning fans with excessive fees. This

1207
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: legal action can have significant implications for comedians and live performers.

1208
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, do you notice when you

1209
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: guys do those arenas. Do you guys know about the

1210
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: ticket Master fees? It's like it's what's called a junk fee.

1211
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Junk fee.

1212
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: Now we don't we don't have control over none of that,

1213
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 3: and if we could, it would be you know, director consumer.

1214
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: But you get, you know, the middle man, That's what

1215
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1216
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: But it's a burden on your fans, like because you

1217
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: would be like, we'll do it for thirty dollars and

1218
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: then they go to check out end up sixty seven knowledge.

1219
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that's the game because you don't

1220
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: own the venue. That's it's it's a it's a cold game,

1221
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1222
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: Not only do you not own a venue, you didn't

1223
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: just catch what the game I put down. Live Nation

1224
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: own ticket Master, so it's it's literally a monopoly Live

1225
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Nation on the venue and they own the people that

1226
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: sells the ticket.

1227
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: If they don't own the venue, they own the boom

1228
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: mics and the type and the monitors.

1229
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1230
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: So it's a you know, you really uh in between

1231
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: the rock and a hard place as the performer, because

1232
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: you want your fans to be able to get a

1233
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: decent ticket price, but you also want to be able

1234
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: to make the money that you make because you getting

1235
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: busting their head on the back end worse than the

1236
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: fan is because for every ticket that you sell, if

1237
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: you set your ticket price at a certain point, they

1238
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 3: taking them fees off and you still got to pay

1239
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: the tax in the overtime if you go over time

1240
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: for all of the people.

1241
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: That's working and all of that.

1242
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: So it's just, you know, it's a cold game, man,

1243
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: it's a cold game. But you know it's hard to

1244
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: eliminate the middle man on that grandiose scale, right, And

1245
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: that's what I want to ask you, is the money

1246
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: in podcasting on tour and doing live show. I think

1247
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: that it's kind of a combination of both. You kind

1248
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: of need one to boost the other. But I think

1249
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: podcasting is more lucrative because you don't have to run

1250
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: the risk of going out and dealing with all of

1251
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: the live overhead and all of that. But still you

1252
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: kind of give your fan a greater experience in doing so.

1253
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: You look at somebody like who I would say is

1254
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: probably the top podcaster in the world, and Joe Rogan. Yes,

1255
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: I don't recall Joe Rogan doing any live tours or.

1256
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he have to.

1257
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: He's basically stopped doing comed head, you know what I mean.

1258
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: He's just spot and he has his club down.

1259
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: There, so you know what I mean the part, But

1260
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: the podcasting has elevated his brand into a space where

1261
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: he's been able to do whatever he wants to do

1262
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: from his centralized bat cave, if you will. So you

1263
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: can always do that, but as a live performer, you

1264
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: always gonna want to hit that stage.

1265
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: But see even for y'all, Right, so you got the

1266
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: ticket master fees with the Live Nation thing, then you

1267
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: got to split it with you call those DC, right,

1268
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: the ticket can't be anybody else that's old the.

1269
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: Bill, and then you really can't have the ticket astronomical amount.

1270
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: It can't be a three hundred dollars ticket, you know

1271
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So can it can? Yeah? Yeah, it

1272
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: definitely can.

1273
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: But but you don't want to do that to your consumer,

1274
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: you know. And that's why I say it puts you

1275
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: in between a rock and a hard place as a

1276
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: as the entertainer, because you don't want to overcharge, but

1277
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: you don't want to undercharge either. You want to make

1278
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: it worth your worth, You want to make it worth

1279
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: everybody's wow. But that just comes into giving the people

1280
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: a product that they want to pay for. And I

1281
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: think that's what we pride ourselves in and making sure

1282
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: that we give the people something. No matter what ticket

1283
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: price you pay, you get what you you get more

1284
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: than what you pay for you to get an experience.

1285
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: And that's pretty much all you can do because you're

1286
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: not in control of any of the other things. You

1287
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: only can worry about what you can control. But you

1288
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Whoever, if the US Secretary is

1289
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: stepping in, yeah, I think that's probably because they have

1290
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: the laws against monopolies. And I didn't even know that

1291
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: Live Nation own ticket.

1292
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's the game.

1293
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: But it's still so many other entertainment companies that you know,

1294
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: run through different venue.

1295
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: You see Live Nation literally has a monopoly on all

1296
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: the venues. They slick on ninety percent of the venue.

1297
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: So what will happen is if you're if you're a

1298
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: smaller company and say you got ten venues in New Jersey,

1299
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: they'll come buy you out like they they're they're really

1300
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: moving like the barb. When it comes to live performing, Yeah, man,

1301
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: all of it too. Were talking rappers deal with this.

1302
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: There's no one that does a live performance don't have

1303
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: to deal with You have to go through them in

1304
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: some kind.

1305
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: Of way, some way, whether it be getting a venue

1306
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: or finding the date. Yeah, shut the days down, yeah yeah,

1307
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: Universal Circus.

1308
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.

1309
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: And this is where this is where last year a

1310
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: Little Baby had some backlass. You started to see a

1311
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: lot of bad press about tours, not only Baby but

1312
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: money Bag Yo.

1313
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1314
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: They were started to say like, oh well no, they

1315
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 3: were starting to say, oh, there's there's stuff not selling out.

1316
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: And the reason they were doing that allegedly, conspiracy theories

1317
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: have it that there's a company out of Atlanta, a

1318
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: guy named Alex. He's actually somebody I'm cool with called

1319
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,479
Speaker 3: a g torn right. He used to own Compound Yeah

1320
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: down in Atlanta.

1321
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: So what happened is he now steps into the arena

1322
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: and they don't go through ticket Master Live Nation. Well,

1323
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: they still go through ticket Master, but he's they're not

1324
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: going through Live Nation, so they're using the venues and

1325
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,959
Speaker 1: just paying the price to use the venues. But he's

1326
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: facilitating all the tools, and so to slow him down

1327
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: or to put bad press on taking that route because

1328
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: they don't like to see rappers go that route, like

1329
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: come through us.

1330
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 2: It's the easiest way, it's the safest way.

1331
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: Everyone cancels dates if the tickets don't sell at a

1332
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: certain rate, we take that show off the books and

1333
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: may be revisited or something. But because money bag Yo,

1334
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: little baby and a couple of people were taking dates off,

1335
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: it literally was making Yeah, it was making press blags, right,

1336
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: And a lot of people said that that was because

1337
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: the fact that there was the black company stepping in

1338
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: and that was basically hit pieces going out to try

1339
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: to deter rappers from going that route. I want to

1340
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: be clear, baby, when their sixy red Rod Wave, like

1341
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: he was taking big acts from list a.

1342
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: Lot of black companies that promote you know, the Black

1343
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: Promoter's Coalition b A men's shows, that's.

1344
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: Who do that. Was doing the Whee the ones right

1345
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: B show.

1346
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, be the ones, Yeah, blaking them and Diddy and

1347
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: them and and you know what I'm saying, like they

1348
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: you know, they go through the same things, you know,

1349
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: being a black promote promoter and trying to get you know,

1350
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: shut out. So it's always a grind. It's always you

1351
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: always got to try.

1352
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: To get in.

1353
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 3: We're going out with him on the eighty five. This

1354
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 3: this that's dope. So you know what I mean, we

1355
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: all trying to you know, like one hand wash the

1356
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: other watch the face loss. Still dealing with the big,

1357
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: the big, the big, big, big, big, big big.

1358
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: You gotta always.

1359
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: See they got a chill right now because they got

1360
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: this anti trust lawsuit hovering over them.

1361
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: This is the government. You know, they'll come and break

1362
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: this show.

1363
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like you can't own that and that and that,

1364
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: like y'all got to figure out and liquid ate something, Yeah,

1365
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 1: for sure.

1366
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: And so I think that that possibly that changes it.

1367
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: But then the economy also is a big factor in

1368
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: that as well, what people can actually afford to pay. Yes,

1369
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: and what you know, people having aough means to be

1370
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 3: able to come out and enjoy live entertainment because that

1371
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: is a luxury. Yes, So being able to spend that

1372
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: money in and have the extra funds to want to

1373
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: buy a ticket forever much it costs, whether it be

1374
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: a thirty to fifty dollars ticket or a five hundred

1375
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: dollar ticket, the economy is going to determine whether no

1376
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: matter who's putting the show on and putting the venue

1377
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: up or putting the money up, the economy is always

1378
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: going to determine what people can come. No matter how

1379
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: much demand you are in. If the people don't have

1380
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: the money to be able to support, then it won't happen.

1381
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also yeah, I mean I just think that

1382
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1383
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: I seen I did go to Cat Williams show, and

1384
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: I've seen Monique on tour with him. I think that

1385
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: was very interesting. But watching Monique up there, it remains

1386
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: to me that she sued Netflix about the Amy Schumer thing.

1387
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what came of that, but do you

1388
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: think that her suing Netflix changed anything for female black comics.

1389
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: I think that her position in general has given a

1390
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: voice in a way that we didn't have a voice

1391
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: for female black comedians, and I think that I don't

1392
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: think she gets the credit for that, but I think

1393
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: that's what she did. And she can be looked at

1394
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: as difficult or whatever they you know, say that she is,

1395
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, but at the same time, speaking up for

1396
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: yourself as a necessity for a lot of our women

1397
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: because we don't have anybody to step up and speak

1398
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: for him and for a long time, she was the

1399
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: only one that was doing that, right, And I think

1400
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: that you automatically are going to be looked at as

1401
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: difficult as a black woman when you do that. But

1402
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, I think that at the same time, she

1403
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: did open up a door to be able to allow

1404
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 3: a lot of black female comedians to be a but

1405
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: to get they just do by not just through her

1406
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: entertainment prowess, but speaking up, you know, and starting those

1407
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: commodours for Netflix, but just in general across the board

1408
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: for sure. Without she also did go ahead and do

1409
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: a Netflix special, right she did, Yeah, I believe I

1410
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: believe she did. After suing them, Yeah, they kind of

1411
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 3: came to terms and she dropped something I believe on

1412
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 3: Netflix to kind of you know, bridge the gap or

1413
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, say that, hey, they made things right. But yeah,

1414
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: Monique has been a voice in this culture man, and

1415
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: we look at her like Auntie, like even with her

1416
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 3: speaking with Shannon shap how that plays back people like

1417
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: those Shannon, she told you you know what's your what's

1418
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: your feeling on Dayton?

1419
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: White women?

1420
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean I personally ain't with it because I know

1421
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 3: that a white woman would only be able to sympathize

1422
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: with me. She wouldn't be able to empathize with me.

1423
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: And sometimes as black men, that empathy is necessary just

1424
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: for you to understand it that you need to leave

1425
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: me the alone right now? Yes, whatever it may be.

1426
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like now, I ain't necessarily

1427
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 3: against the white woman.

1428
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna go that far.

1429
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what doctor Umar talking about.

1430
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: I won't say that that's wrong. But it's being in

1431
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: a relationship. Noah, You know, I ain't black women, man.

1432
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: I love black women. Black women? Is it for me?

1433
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: Because you know, just that connection that we have in dialogue,

1434
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 3: It ain't always about it ain't always about intimacy in

1435
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 3: regards to physical interaction. Intimacy to me is the connection

1436
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: that you have mentally to be able to stimulate somebody

1437
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: through conversation, even if it's the first and the last

1438
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: one we ever have. I know that you lead this

1439
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: conversation more grandiose as I will too, because I talked

1440
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: to an intelligent black woman, or I had dialogue with

1441
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: a with a that's from the hood and with him,

1442
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: and that's just something I value, you know, I value that.

1443
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: So I yeah, I can't see myself ever being in

1444
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: a relationship in general. But if I was showing up

1445
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: with a white woman, you can't see yourself in a

1446
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: relationship ever. No, hell no, I'm not doing never in

1447
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: a relationship. No, no, no, not conventional relationship, not at all.

1448
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 3: Why we see we about to be in here for

1449
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: another three hours long check the checktive playback. But no,

1450
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not with the conventional relationships don't make

1451
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: no sense to me, because the best way to explain

1452
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: it is, as a man, we have an obligation to

1453
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 3: be true to self first.

1454
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1455
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 3: In my opinion, You know what I'm saying, that's that's

1456
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 3: the only way you want to ever be able to

1457
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: be of service, to be that of that usefulness that

1458
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: we have to be as men. And I can't ever

1459
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: see myself allowing any woman to think that she's the

1460
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 3: only woman that I ever want to be with for

1461
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: the rest of my life.

1462
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: And what that entails is when people hear that.

1463
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: A lot of times when women hear that, they automatically

1464
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 3: think that you just want to be out here sticking

1465
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: your dick and everything. No, no, not at all. But

1466
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: if I want to engage with a woman, if you

1467
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: if you're my girlfriend, and you feel like, because you're

1468
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: my girlfriend, you're supposed to encompass everything that I need,

1469
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 3: that's an unfair commitment to Maybe.

1470
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel with you, sir, that's a

1471
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: that's a heavy load. Know what, I allow you to

1472
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 2: think that I'm supposed to be your.

1473
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lift everything, you know. It don't work like that.

1474
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: Oh that mean emotional strain, sexual strain. While I evolve.

1475
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: I used to like that, I like this, Now can

1476
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: you do that now?

1477
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: Exactly? Now I'm specialized at that.

1478
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: Then they then they'll get upset, like we see with Cassie, right,

1479
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: she feel it feels like she got upset there. I

1480
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: spent all these years freaking out with you and it

1481
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: didn't really materialize to what I wanted. But that's on

1482
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: the man and not establishing that, Hey, what is it

1483
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 3: that you do? You got to be able to listen

1484
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: as much as you can talk. Like my line of

1485
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: questioning is always what are you looking for? Because if

1486
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: what you're looking for is not what I just explained

1487
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: to you what I am, then don't waste your time

1488
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: trying to convince me to turn into what that is

1489
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 3: because it's not gonna happen.

1490
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1491
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 3: So, and time is the most valuable thing that we have.

1492
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: It's the only then we can't get back. So if

1493
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: I got a woman somewhere and I'm you know, in

1494
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 3: the presence of a woman that I'm having a good,

1495
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: nice conversation with and we talking, and you know what

1496
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 3: I mean, we at the restaurant, or we at the bar,

1497
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: whatever it is we're doing, I cannot allow myself to

1498
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: enter into agreement that I have a woman somewhere thinking

1499
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: that I'm doing her wrong by doing what's good for me.

1500
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: This makes me feel good in the moment. This is

1501
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: what's for me.

1502
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: This is something that is I'm never going to allow

1503
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: anybody to think that I'm wrong for doing what I

1504
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 3: feel is for me, no matter what capacity is in right,

1505
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: So if this agreement allows me to or requires me

1506
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 3: to go into a situation where this is the book,

1507
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: this is what we do, and this is it and

1508
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: if we straight from this, then we're doing each other wrong.

1509
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 3: While would I ever agree to those terms and conditions?

1510
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: And then the thing is, like I always talk about,

1511
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: like the requirements that we are required to have as

1512
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: a man, it's always more elevated than what a woman

1513
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 3: is required to have, coming in meaning I have to

1514
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: have financial stability in some sense of the word. I

1515
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: have to be able to make you feel safe. I

1516
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 3: got to be able to make you feel differently than

1517
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: other men it made you feel, not to remind you

1518
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 3: of past trauma that the other minute brought into your life.

1519
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: I got to be able to make you feel like

1520
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 3: you're enhancing me through your presence, to give you worth

1521
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: as a woman, and be able to elevate you and

1522
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: your femininity through you elevating me and my masculinity. I

1523
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 3: have to be able to do all of those things.

1524
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: And the number one thing I got to be able

1525
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: to do above all those things. Is you good because

1526
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: I can have all of those good character riches. But

1527
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 3: if I can't lay no dick, then I'm just gonna

1528
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: be the homie. So I gotta you use all those

1529
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: assets that you're going to get the other du.

1530
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: Mouth getting.

1531
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's two things a woman

1532
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: is not gonna be. She's not gonna be getting bad

1533
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: on the floor. You know what I'm saying. She's not

1534
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: gonna get bad. That's the whole fact. You know, if

1535
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: it's on the floor, be platted, and if it's in

1536
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: a and if I'm getting bad, it's gonna be in

1537
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: the mansion, right, you know what I'm saying. So that's

1538
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: just the idealism of how it works. Those are the

1539
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: terms and conditions under normal conventional wisdom. So you mean

1540
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 3: to tell me that I'm supposed to enter into agreement

1541
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: where you meet me and my attributes sore on ninety nine.

1542
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: I can fight till jokes got money, and you expect

1543
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: me to stop utilizing all them skills because you like it.

1544
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: Of course you like it. I'm a superhero man.

1545
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: The hoes need me, you know what I'm saying, And

1546
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: not just for dick for game for understanding. I'm I'm

1547
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: supposed to let my other folks struggle because you're selfish, right,

1548
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: And the answer is yes, if you enter into that

1549
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: conventional wisdom. And that's why you can't he do it.

1550
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, There's no way I can

1551
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 3: do that. It's no way. And mind you, I have

1552
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: multiple relationships with women that I deal with on every level,

1553
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: some sexual, most not. But at the same time, they

1554
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: know that they least got one in their life that

1555
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 3: they can depend on to be consistently who we say

1556
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: it is every time. And I ain't looking for nothing

1557
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: different from you do your thing as long as whatever

1558
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: your thing is don't cause me no problem.

1559
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: Right, and we're good, you know what I'm saying.

1560
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: And now I got to the point where you know,

1561
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, but what about this? And

1562
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: what about that? I got to answer to all them questions. Yo,

1563
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 3: know where you're my child at?

1564
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: Okay? Here, I ain't got nothing now, you know what

1565
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Now what now? What's the conversation? Now?

1566
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: You just don't want to engage in something that's different

1567
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: than what you want. But the good part is now

1568
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: you've been able to have a dialogue with somebody who

1569
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: has a total one eighty of what you think is

1570
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 3: right and what you think is conventional, and what you

1571
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: think a man is supposed to be. So now you

1572
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 3: have a different vantage point and perspective to go to

1573
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 3: you supposed to.

1574
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: Find, right. Yeah.

1575
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I didn't do nothing but direct you to

1576
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: who you supposed to.

1577
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Speaker 2: Find, I did a good thing for my own Yeah,

1578
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Speaker 2: black women.

1579
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Speaker 1: So that's I appreciate you. Man, any Chico being ladies

1580
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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Anything you want to lead to people with

1581
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Speaker 1: oh man nah man man.

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Speaker 2: I know we had three four hours