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Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. First question, Hey, Jason Shay took

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Speaker 2: I those of you guys who watched yesterday's film session,

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Speaker 2: And if there's something to be said about the way

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Speaker 2: shake Yild, Justs Alexander right then Tyrese Haliburton hits the

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Speaker 2: good rhythm for lou Dort, who had a lot of

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Speaker 2: approaching the game the way that Shaye did. Again, if

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Speaker 2: But the long and short of it is, Shay came

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Speaker 2: offensive end of the floor. Next question, who is the

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Speaker 2: is an interesting question, So I think on the Pacers front,

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Speaker 2: series preview, and I thought it showed again last night, Miles.

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Speaker 2: When Miles Turner is hitting threes and when he's beating

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Speaker 2: In this particular matchup against a Thunder team that can't

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Speaker 2: like Miles Turner, to me, is the key to everything

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Speaker 2: for Indiana in terms of their role player talent. If

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Speaker 2: he's hitting picking pop threes and he's successfully beating post

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Speaker 2: ability to score against this Oklahoma City defense. On the

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna focus on lou Dort just so that

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Speaker 2: saw in the film session yesterday, really really overreacting to

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Speaker 2: Shay and JDub drives sometimes three even four helpers meeting

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Speaker 2: He's the co star. Cason might not be on the

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Speaker 2: floor when they go big with Isaiah Hartenstein and Cheded Holmgren. Right,

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Speaker 2: So the consistent guy who's probably gonna keep getting those

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Speaker 2: I think are the two most important role players in

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Speaker 2: investing in their their role players more frequently throughout the game,

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Speaker 2: Like there's a chance that you get more out of Chet,

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Speaker 2: but I do agree that Indiana starters outplayed them in

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Speaker 2: in game two we have typically seen in this sort

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Speaker 2: two very powerful forces of energy clashing here, because on

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Speaker 2: the one hand, we have an Indiana Pacers team that

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Speaker 2: stole Game one against Milwaukee and then one game two,

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Speaker 2: and then stole game one against the Calves, and then

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Speaker 2: the Knicks. Same thing. They steal game one in crazy fashion,

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Speaker 2: But then we on the other side of it, we

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Speaker 2: Then down the roster, everyone was just a little better.

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Speaker 2: some stuff around the league. After all the talk about

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move around league a little bit. This

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Speaker 2: the Bucks in a y honest deal. But like to me,

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00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: it's just the reality is is that there are teams

430
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Speaker 2: that can absolutely outbid everybody with respect to Giannis. Like

431
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: the Spurs just have so many more picks to throw

432
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: on the table, the Rockets have so many more picks

433
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: to throw on the table. If one of those teams

434
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: decides to get involved with Giannis, they can just so

435
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: much easier get that sort of deal done right and

436
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 2: so viewed as a long shot. But if they do

437
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: get out bid, should they shift towards a more achievable

438
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: target like KDI. Absolutely. Their roster is pretty much guys

439
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: in their late twenties, so they're a bit of a

440
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: shorter window anyway, so I wouldn't be overly concerned about

441
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: tying my self to an older player. Kd's game translates

442
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: super well in the late phase of his career, especially

443
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: in a team like this that has so much talent

444
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't be depended on as much. And there's

445
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: an easy vehicle in the form of Carl Anthony Towns

446
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: Phoenix really wants a kind of a franchise starting center.

447
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: If that's the framework of the deal, and it's Karl

448
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns and a first round pick for Kevin Durant

449
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: and the Sons get a younger star that's been back

450
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: to back conference finals, And look, do I think that

451
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: makes the Suns a very interesting team? No, but I

452
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: don't think the Suns are a very interesting team now.

453
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: So at that point, whatever, and if you could somehow

454
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: pull that sort of deal off and get Kevin Durant,

455
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: that that puts you in a pretty damn strong position

456
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: going into next season, especially in an Eastern conference that

457
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: is wide open with Boston falling apart, with Milwaukee falling apart,

458
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Like this is a winnable conference out East, and I

459
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: would view Kevin Durant as a target there that I

460
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: think would put the Knicks into another echelon in terms

461
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Speaker 2: of reliable scoring talent. Also, Kevin Durant's a very good

462
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: defensive player in a low man context when you can

463
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: protect the rim, be a defensive rebounder, things along those lines.

464
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: So like, again, if you need to get more draft compensation,

465
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: maybe you do end up including like an OG and

466
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: a separate you know three team structure that sends more

467
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: draft compensation towards the Suns. But if you can get

468
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: rid of Towns and keep one of your two forwards,

469
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: and keep Brunson and get Kevin Durant, I think that's

470
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: a very interesting team in a wide open Western Conference

471
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Speaker 2: or Eastern Conference. Excuse me, not quite related to this finals,

472
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: but seeing how far the Knicks went and how open

473
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: the East is next year, should the Pistons consider going

474
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: in a bit harder next year seeing that they might

475
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: not actually be that far away? In general, what's a

476
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: realistic move for them this summer? So again, I if

477
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm remembering correctly, if the Pistons let all of their

478
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: cap holds walk, so if they let like Dennis Walk

479
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: and Tim Hardaway Junior walk and all these guys, I

480
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: think the max cap space they can put together is

481
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: about nineteen millions, like nineteen twenty million something along those lines.

482
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: That's not enough to bring in a super high level

483
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: free agent, right, especially when I would argue that Tim

484
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Hardaway Junior and Dennis Schroeder kind of if you can

485
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: bring them back on team friendly deals, that's actually better

486
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: than going out to get a free agent. I would

487
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: try to get those guys tied up on relatively short

488
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: term mid level contracts, meaning around two years or less,

489
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: or like a team option for the third year shirt

490
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: that you have some flexibility, but like a two year

491
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: deal somewhere in the fifteen to twenty million range. If

492
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: you can do something like that for those guys where

493
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: there are mid level contracts where like, you know, one

494
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: of them's in the you know, five to ten million

495
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: range and the other ones in the ten to fifteen

496
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: million range or something, they become trade pieces at that point,

497
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: trade filler if the right sort of move just kind

498
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: of materializes this summer for you to jump on. But again,

499
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: don't jump the gun on a player that is going

500
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: to shorten your window. Caid is a franchise altering type

501
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: of talent. He is roven that he can succeed at

502
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: the highest levels of basketball. I'm a believer in him.

503
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: You have Jade and Ivy coming back, You've got young

504
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: role player talent and Nasar Thompson. You like, you have

505
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: the ability to be patient here while also having guys

506
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: like Tobias Harris, guys like Malik Beasley, guys like Tim

507
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Hardaway Junior on team friendly deals. That you can still

508
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: be competitive in the short term, but then turn your

509
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: attention in the draft towards off ball scoring talent. That's

510
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: the big one with the you know, I think sar

511
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: Thompson obviously has the ability to be one of the

512
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: better kind of like perimeter like d and three types

513
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: of players in the league right as a guy that

514
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: can guard the opposing best player. He's a guy that obviously,

515
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: if they can unlock some of the vertical spacing stuff

516
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: that the Rockets do with the men Thompson, he can

517
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: become a better offensive player and we'll see how his

518
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: jump shot develops over time. Ron Holladay obviously is like

519
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: another kind of like athletic type of young wing. What

520
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: they're missing is like older college talent, So like guys

521
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: that are in you know, three four year college guys

522
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: that you can find in the middle of the first round,

523
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: late first round, guys that can that have been playing

524
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: in a winning context as like weak side scorers, guy

525
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: that can knock down jump shots and drive closeouts, things

526
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: along those lines. I think there's a lot of opportunity

527
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: in the draft for that sort of talent. So the

528
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: point is is like let this thing grow slowly. Don't

529
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: jump the gun for an Eastern Conference Finals appearance that

530
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: ends up shortening your window. Don't make the mistake that

531
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: the Cavs did with Lebron in early you know, in

532
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: the early part of his career, where they kept making

533
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: these kind of mediocre aggressive deals and getting guys like Antoine,

534
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: Damson Jamison and Mo Williams that were good players, made

535
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: team better, but didn't make them a championship team. And

536
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: so patience is the name of the game. The specific

537
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: type of talent they need. I like where they're at

538
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: at center. I like where they're at with their shot creators.

539
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: I like where they're at in terms of having athletic

540
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: guys on the perimeter that can guard and fly up

541
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: and down the floor. What they're missing is just off

542
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: ball skill, basically, guys that you can phase out Tim

543
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: Hardaway and Malik Beasley and phase in younger versions of

544
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: those players that you find in the middle to late

545
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: portion of the first round in the draft. We have

546
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: five more questions. I heard san Vassini suggests the framework

547
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: of an Austin Reeves Derek Lively trade. What are your

548
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on that? From both sides? I said this a

549
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: while back, and it's kind of my current stance with

550
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: respect to an Austin Reeves trade. I think it makes

551
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: sense to trade Austin Reeves as long as you get

552
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: back either one a very good ball handler that can

553
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: be that secondary ball handler next to Luca and is

554
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: a better athlete, okay, or two two high level starters. Okay.

555
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: If I can turn Austin into Derek Lively and a

556
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: guy like a PJ. Washington, then sure, I think it

557
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: starts to make some sense. But if I'm just getting

558
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: Derek Lively, I feel like Austin Reeves just a better player,

559
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: a better asset, even though I think Lively obviously fits

560
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: the big picture goals of the Lakers, and so I

561
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: would trade Austin for Derek as long as I also

562
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: got PJ back as a legitimate starting caliber piece of

563
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: forward depth, right, And that's a guy that when Lebron retires, PJ.

564
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Washington could just slide in at the four, you know,

565
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: And obviously it brings a death piece in that regard

566
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: in the short term, right, But like just flipping Austin

567
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: for like a starter, he's a better starter, that doesn't

568
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: make any sense. I think it makes some sense. To

569
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: at least look around trading Austin, because I don't think

570
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: it makes a ton of sense to have two unathletic

571
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: guards in Austin and Luca as foundational players in your

572
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: starting lineup. But you don't just get rid of him

573
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: for the sake of getting rid of him. You get

574
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: rid of him for high value and nothing less than that. Alright,

575
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: I changed my mind. I actually doubled up the Yannis question,

576
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: so we actually have we actually only have three questions

577
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: left looking at this Pacers and Thunder team. What could

578
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: they do in the offseason to further push them to

579
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: the chip. Both have a good amount of draft picks,

580
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: and it seems the Thunder needs scoring and playmaking help. Well.

581
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: I think the Pacers could use an upgrade at the

582
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: two to three position. So I actually disagree with this.

583
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the Thunder should make a move for Giannis.

584
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: They're obviously very they're either a championship team, which the

585
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: series isn't over, or they're very very close to being

586
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: a championship team. And Chet's gonna get better, j Deb's

587
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: gonna get better. They're young, the sky's the limit. Like,

588
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes a ton of sense to

589
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: shorten your window to make to give you a better

590
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: chance at you know, one single championship in this regard

591
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: like I then also I just think it'd be bad

592
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: for the league if Yannis went to Oklahoma City. So

593
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't think Oklahoma City should do anything. As far

594
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: as the Pacers go, like like, honestly, there's a bit

595
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: of a five out spacing concept with the guy like Siakam,

596
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: where even though Siakam's not as good as Jiannis, I

597
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of a diminishing return. The

598
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Pacers are very ball and player movement heavy offense, and

599
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Giannis is more of like a like brute force, you know,

600
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: just sheer force of will and power type of weapon.

601
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: He's not a guy that is known for being a

602
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: super super high level quick decision read and react player

603
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: and three point shooter and all those things that are

604
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: so important in the Indiana Pacers offense. I don't really

605
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: see that as as a realistic type of move And

606
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: then as far as the two and three goes, I

607
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: think I think them Hard and Smith are strengths in

608
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: this offense as ball pressure guys that can run, action

609
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: and shoot. Like I don't necessarily think an upgrade there

610
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: is something that you look outside the roster for. If anything,

611
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: Ben Matherin in his potential and it continues to grow

612
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: and develop in coming years, and he becomes your upgrade

613
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: at the two and three. In the big picture, highly

614
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: unlikely that this would happen due to the current circumstances

615
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: and the beef, But I feel the Pacers are the

616
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: perfect team for you. He'd elevate the defense, and I

617
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: feel Holley would complement Jannis perfectly with East kind of

618
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: in limbo right now. Thoughts on this, As I mentioned earlier,

619
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't think Jannis fits as well

620
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: with Indiana as he does in some other situations. It

621
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: doesn't mean like Giannis would make the Pacers better. He's

622
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: be honest, But the point is is like you'd have

623
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: to give up a ton to get him, and it

624
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a diminishing return in a

625
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: system that prioritizes three point shooting and read and react quickness,

626
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: which are two kind of weaknesses for Yannis relative to

627
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: his strengths. Last question, did we undervalue Indiana's shot making

628
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: ability to before the series? While weighing While weighing Oklahoma

629
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: City's ability to turn people over too much. Game is

630
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: about getting buckets and making tough jumpers, and if the

631
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Playoffs is any evidence, they do it better than almost

632
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: anyone we've seen. This is an interesting question, and I

633
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: appreciate you asking it because it's caused me to look

634
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: at things a little bit differently. I would argue that

635
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Shay and Jadab are better tough shot makers than Halliburton

636
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: and Siakam as a unit, mainly on the strength of

637
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Shay obviously, but where I think it gets interesting is

638
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: as you go down the roster. I do think the

639
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: Pacers are a better aggregate tough shot making team. Nie

640
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Smith can make tough shots. Nemhard can make tough shots.

641
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Turner can make tough shots. TJ McConnell will make tough

642
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: crazy fadeaways, Ben Mathern can make tough shots. Obi Toppin

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Speaker 2: can make tough shots. I do think there's an aggregate

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Speaker 2: tough shot making piece with the Pacers which is really

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Speaker 2: fascinating and has shown in a big way in this

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Speaker 2: postseason run. And so honestly, with the way that their

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Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter where the ball ends in the sequence,

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Speaker 2: you know, with four or five seconds on the shot, like,

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Speaker 2: any of those dudes can put the ball in the

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Speaker 2: do think that that aggregate shot making talent has been

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Speaker 2: a little bit underrated as far as Oklahoma City's ability

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Speaker 2: to turn people over and whether or not that's being

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Speaker 2: weighed properly. We have one game, and in the first

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Speaker 2: half it worked marvelously and in the second half it didn't.

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Speaker 2: So I think we just need more data before we

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Speaker 2: can really speak, you know, with conviction in that specific regard.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, this all have for today is always

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Speaker 2: a sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting me and supporting

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Speaker 2: the show again. We will be back tomorrow night after

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Speaker 2: the final buzzer of Game two of the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: with Colin Coward, So we'll have a breakdown with Colin,

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Speaker 2: then we'll be heading over to play back after then

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Speaker 2: on Monday morning, I'll do more of like a detailed breakdown,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll do film on Tuesday. All right, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you guys. I will see you tomorrow. What's up guys.

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Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting

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Speaker 2: OOPS tonight. They would actually be really helpful for us

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Speaker 2: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys

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