1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to another Taking a Walk classic replay. I'm Buzznight, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: your host. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Now. 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: If you have suggestions about the Taking a Walk podcast, 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: feel free to reach out to us at our website, 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: taking a Walk dot com. You might have some ideas 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: on how to improve the podcast. Maybe you have some 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: guest suggestions, you name it. You reach out to us 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: there on this classic replay. Let's go back to March 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, when Taking a Walk travel by 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: playing not by Foot to La where I met up 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: with one of my favorite actors known for so many 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: great performances, Ed Begley Junior. I love Ed in particular, 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: love him in those mockumentaries from Christopher Guest and Company, 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Best in Show Waiting for Guffman, A mighty wind in 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: particular Ed Begley Junior. He's terrific. You was so gracious 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: to us, welcoming us to his neighborhood where we took 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a walk. And here's Ed Begley Junior on this classic 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: replay of Taking a Walk. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: Nice little neighborhood in studio Cities called Colfax Meadows and 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: it's a lovely area with lots of mature trees, which 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: is the big draw people finally figured out a few 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: years ago. One of the most prevalent, one of the 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: most common denominators in homes that have tremendous value is 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: mature trees. You know, wherever you are and whatever part 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: of the country the world you are, we'll go around 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: this succument here. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: Don't get stuck, bug I will not, I promise you. 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 5: So. 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: In the series that you did. 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: That was really about living Green, which was a tremendous series. 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: I loved it. Thank you. 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: You had a neighborhood friend slash nemesis, I would say 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: in the series, is that fair to say. 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: Oh boy, you had to bring him up. You're gonna 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: even say his. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Name, Okay, I'll say it Bill, Bill. 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: N Okay, here we go. Yeah, we're having a fine cause. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: And then you had to get into that. You know, 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: the truth is he's my dear friend. And it's like 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: a wrestling match or something. I'm gonna take you down, 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna take you down the twenty third of March. 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a fun kind of competition that 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: we have to see how's the lowest carbon footprint. And 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, he was beating me for years, but 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: only because there was one of him and the three 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: of us, so per capita, I was doing very well 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: over the years. I was his immediate neighbor. We're about 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: a mile apart now, but we're not at all apart 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: in our approach to this, and we want to promote 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: sustainable stuff that people can afford. Not everybody can afford 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: the kind of solo that I have or the you know, 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: some of the other things that I have. So you 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: want to promote things that people can afford, the average 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: Joe or Jane. 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: So we've tried to do that. 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: You know, if you want to buy some high falute 58 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: and fancy car, that's fine. But if you only have 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: the money to buy some light bulbs and energy saving thermostat, 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: you should do that. You know, plant a vegetable garden, 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: make some composts, ride a bike, public transportation. All that 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: stuff I just mentioned is very cheap. And so that's 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: the way I started too. People say I can't afford X, 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Y and Z like you, and I go neither could 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: I win. 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: I started. 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: You don't run up to the top of Mount Everest. 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: You get the base camp and you get acclimated and 69 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: you climb as high as you can. So that's what 70 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do, show what works, and do it 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: myself in my own life. But I hasten to add 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: this I didn't get right away buzz. For years, I've 73 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: been promoting do what you can and buy the energy 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: saving life bulbs, and there's important what we do that's important, 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: But that's only one of three pillars you need to 76 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: have any environmental success. The other two are corporate responsibility 77 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: and good legislation. 78 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: Yep. 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: And if everybody's just doing stuff themselves and the government 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: is involved in businesses aren't involved, you're not going to 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: get anywhere. We needed a Clean Air Act to clean 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: up the air in LA withn't just people like me 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: driving electric cars in nineteen seventy and beyond. It takes 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: good legislation, that's how we did it, and it takes 85 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: corporate responsibility, and that's how we did it. So you 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: need all three, and if any of them short, you're 87 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: gonna have a wobbly, you know, situation. You need to 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: have them the whole of equal strength. So that's what 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: I make sure people know. Do what you can in 90 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: your own life, but make sure that there's corporate responsibility. 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Whenever you can affect it. And there are course related 92 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: The more stuff that you do, the more energy saving 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: light bulbs you buy, or green cars that you buy, 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: than corporate America is going to be more inclined to 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: make them. 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: You know, you can influence corporate America with your purchasing power. 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: You can vote an election day, you can vote in 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: the supermarket isles and the showroom floors. And then of 99 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: course goods legislation, same thing. If you're affecting what corporate 100 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: America's doing, you're doing stuff in your personal life. You're 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: gonna help that will help make for good legislation. You know, 102 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: if you get involved as an activist too and start 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: influencing the way people vote, in the way our legislators vote. 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: But you were a lone wolf at that time. 105 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: It was very odd to drive an elect to car 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy. Of course, they've been around for years 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: before me. Henry Ford's wife preferred her Baker Electric to 108 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: his noise. The contraption that was a nineteen ten car. 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: All the Baker Electric. They've been around for a while. 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: But you know, I did what I could, stood on 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: the shoulders of people, you know, Rachel Carson, you know, 112 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: and other people like that. She wrote Silent Spring, and 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Henry David Thurrow, you know Emerson. People talked about the 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: value of the natural world, and I chose to. 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: Value it myself. 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Also, I got to give credit to my dad at 117 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: Begley Senior. He never used the word environmentalist really, but 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: he was one. He had lived through the Great Depression. 119 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: He was the son of Irish immigrants. So we turn 120 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: off the lights and turn off the water and save 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: string and save tinfoil. So with the time birthday came around, 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: I was primed and ready to go. 123 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: And he died within a few days of that first Earthday. 124 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: So is that right? Yeah? 125 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: So I did a lot of the stuff I did 126 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: to honor him, because he was always interested in what 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: I was for, not what I was against. I said, 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: I hate this mog, smig, It's hurt my lungs. Dad, 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: and I. 130 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: Hate I said. 131 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: He would say, well, I know what you're against, which 132 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: is smog, and I'm against the two. 133 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: But what are you for? What are you doing? 134 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: Go help the build of green car, Go down to 135 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: the small control district and testify about how we should 136 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: clean up the smog. Do something, get involved, don't just 137 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: talk about it. And so I got motivated in nineteen 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: seventy and I did a lot of stuff and it 139 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: all worked. What I did, what Corporate America did, what 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: good laws did, like the Clean Air Act. We have 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: four times of cars in La now for nineteen seventy, 142 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: millions more people, but a fraction of the smog. 143 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: Wow. It described the scene where we're taking a walk 144 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: right now. 145 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: If you couldn't stop for a second, just point out 146 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: short's going on. Yep, this is the La River. You 147 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: can see a little bit of water in a secondary 148 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: channel cut at the bottom of the larger channel. 149 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: It's for flood control. 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: I understand why they did what they did back in 151 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: the thirties. A lot of it happened in the thirties. 152 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: The Army Corps of ers decided to pave over it 153 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: to control it because there's a great deal of There 154 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: was a certain amount of loss of life and a 155 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: great deal of loss of property because La River was 156 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: a meandering river that would be over here one day 157 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: and over there, and farmers and people kind of dealt 158 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: with and built on higher up things like where. 159 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: My house is now, that's higher than this area. Yep. 160 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: You just walk from and so Army corp of engineers 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: channelize the river. That was what they thought was best 162 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: at the time. We know better now you can do 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: what they did in Scott Steale, Arizona and other places, 164 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: the big spreading basins. 165 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: You let the water spread out. 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: This Even if you're a swift water rescue Navy seal 167 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: and you fall in this water, you might not make 168 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: it till they pull you out. 169 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: Right. 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: The water is very cold in the wintertime and it 171 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: goes very quickly, and so it's like a freeway of 172 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: death this water. So what they're doing more of what 173 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: they're already having place now called Bealbo Park. It's a 174 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: wetland where the water is spread out over a larger area, 175 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: allowed to do what its job is, which is to 176 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: percolate down into the water table and do that. So 177 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: we're attempting to do what is downstream of here. Already 178 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: there's a permeable bottom. The sides are still channelized, but 179 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: the bottom is not and the water goes down and 180 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: so that's not as much a rush of water. As 181 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: you go further downstream. We're going to go up to 182 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: the source of this nile, if you will. The beginning 183 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: of this La River in Chatsworth in that area it's 184 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: called Box Canyon up there the west San Fernando Valley, 185 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: and begin to break up the bottom of this La River, 186 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: so it begins to permeate down more. And the more 187 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: you do that and continue to move, eventually make it 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: to the ocean, Long Beach and places like that. With 189 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: this all empties, you know, Biona Creek and Long Beach 190 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: is where this all empties, and it won't be so 191 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: much volume of water being wasted too. We can meet 192 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: more than half of LA's water needs by just collecting 193 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: our water by one having it go back in the 194 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: water table, and two to do what I'm doing at 195 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: my house, which is to let it all flow into 196 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: a water tank the ground. I have a ten thousand 197 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: gallon water tank buried underground. The water goes into that. 198 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: Then I can use it for emergencies and I can 199 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 3: certainly use it as I do every day for irrigation. 200 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: Wow. So now did your wife come along immediately in 201 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: this passion. 202 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: Kicking and screaming, I'd say with the two words I. 203 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: Remembered that in the show was a little bit of 204 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: kicking and screaming. Yeah, But now she's along for the ride, isn't. 205 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: She definitely is because a lot of it makes financial sense. 206 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: And I finally seated control over stuff that I really 207 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: didn't have that big an interest in it. She didn't 208 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: want to see solar panels for some reason. I like 209 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: the look of them. 210 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: I just do. But a lot of people like my 211 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: wife doesn't. 212 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: So they said the architect in her and the builder said, 213 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: we're not going to see any solar panels. I said, 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: if you can pull it off, that's great, because they're 215 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: up on a flat roof. 216 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: But all they did was to build a parapet wall 217 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: this big. 218 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm holding my fingers about five or six inches apart 219 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: right now, buzz. 220 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: And that's all. 221 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: A little wall that tall is all that it does, 222 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: because the first solar panel down at the bottom of 223 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: it is just a quarter inch low that lip, and 224 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: then they go up at an angle that you is 225 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: a straight line from that, so you can stand anywhere 226 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: in the property and go this Sid Begley is a liar. 227 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: He didn't have one solar panel on that roof. You 228 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: need a drone to fly over head to see. I 229 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: got lots of panels, got nine kill wats but the 230 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: wife didn't want to see them, and we can. We 231 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: can do that asthetics. We've got beautiful you know, walls 232 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: that are stuck on what have you. She wanted that 233 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: look of like French Mediterranean design. We did all that, 234 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: But what's in the wall is mine. I own that 235 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: stuff in the wall, the insulation and the thick walls 236 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: that are twelve inches thick. 237 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: So now it's much easier to. 238 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: Heat or cool that envelope, you know, that very well 239 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: sealed up home. So she gets what she wants and 240 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: I get what I want, which is the gearhead stuff, 241 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: the nuts and bolt stuff. And she's in charge of aesthetics. 242 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Was there some counseling involved that got you guys through 243 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: very much? 244 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: So we somehow made it and nobody got hurt. Now 245 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: she's much stronger than me. You'll meet her in a minute. 246 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: She can take me pretty good at this point. 247 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: Now, how did you get involved with the passion that 248 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 5: I could share with you with the walden Woods project? 249 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: Two words? 250 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: Don Henley Don is a dear friend of mine since 251 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: the early seventies. We met at the Troubadour Bar there 252 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: and the Troubadour Club. He was on stage wonderful guitarist, songwriter, drummer. 253 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: He's a brilliant musician and with Glenn Fry they wrote 254 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: some great, great songs, I would say, and he's written 255 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: some great songs on his own. 256 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: Two. Of course, he's a dear friend. 257 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: And he wanted to do something he had heard about, 258 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: you know, this property that was going to be made 259 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: into like an industrial park or something, or they were 260 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: going to develop this area where Henry David Thrower wrote 261 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: and walked and lived. And so he thought, I was 262 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: like firing up a foundry in the Sistine Chapel, and 263 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: if we could save Walden, maybe we could save other 264 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: places too. So he set about doing that. He enlisted 265 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: my help, and Bonnie Rait and James Taylor and lots 266 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: of friends and Sting and people over the years have 267 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: all helped, and he's done a good job. 268 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite places to go take a walk. 269 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: In fact, the first two episodes of Taking a Walk 270 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: actually were recorded there. The first one was with Jeffrey Kramer, 271 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: Oh yes, I love Jeffrey Curator, and then the second 272 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 5: one was with a former morning host of mine from 273 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: my radio days, a guy with the name of Waldie Bryant. 274 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 5: Do you remember the first time you took a walk 275 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 5: in the Walden Pond area. 276 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: It was with Don Henley and Kathy Anderson. It was 277 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: the first Walden Woods walk that we had. We had 278 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: an event there to raise money to buy the land 279 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: and we did. 280 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: And you know. 281 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: That was I think that was the early nineties, like 282 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: ninety one or something like it. 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: That sounds right because I met you and Don for 284 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: the first time when I programmed the classic rock station 285 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: w ZLX, and you guys came up and did an interview. 286 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: So that was around that time. That sounds like ninety 287 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: two something like that. 288 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: It was not in Boston or Conqueror. 289 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: That was in Boston, Yes, I remember that now. 290 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: And we ultimately met at a Nikky songas Benefit and 291 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: Conquered And that's right. 292 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: The Rasmussen's Beautiful. I love thee there. 293 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: And I knew Paul Songris too is a wonderful man. 294 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Wonderful man. Yeah, So walking for you is important. 295 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: Very important. That's my transportation hierarchy. 296 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: I quite deliberately moved to an area where I could 297 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: walk to restaurants, walk to the bank, walk to the 298 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: post office. You know, that's my number one formert. I'm 299 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: known for electric cars, but my number one form of 300 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: transportation is walking. Number two is my bike. Number three 301 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: is public transportation. So the electric car is a distant fourth. 302 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: And so you know, and I try not to fly too. 303 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: I can. 304 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: I've recently it's been a lot easier because nobody was 305 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: flying much. But I went two and a half years 306 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: recently without flying, and I was very happy with that. 307 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: So and does walking Does it clear your head? If 308 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: you're in a creative log gym. 309 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: It does. 310 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: It's wonderful when you're writing or just going about the 311 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: business of living, going about the business of the day, 312 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: to just take a walk, let it all peel away, 313 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: and drink in the moments like this one right now, 314 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: where everything is perfect, of everything. 315 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: That I need. The river is flowing, even though we 316 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: haven't had much rain. Light. 317 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: You can see water down there that's coming from something 318 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: called the hyperion plant. They take all the raw sewage 319 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: in that end of the valley, well, the middle of 320 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: the valley really is where it sits from up hill 321 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: of there in the San Fernando Valley, and they treat 322 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: it so that is really nearly drinkable water. I suppose 323 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: you could drink it if you're in a real pinch. 324 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: But it's been fully purified in what have you, and 325 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: now it's part of the ecosystem. That water is running 326 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: year round because it's raw sewage, it's been cleaned and 327 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: so there's birds another aquatic life that depend on it 328 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: now and it's not harming them. It's not toxic the 329 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: way it used to be because of the manner in 330 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: which they treat it. So and that's the important thing 331 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: people have to realize. The environment isn't just Wallden pond. 332 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: It isn't just you know, the rainforest in Brazil. That's 333 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: of course the environment. We have to protect that, that's essential, 334 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: but the environment is also here in this concrete channel. 335 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: This is part of the environment. South Central is part 336 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: of the environment. You know, Love Canal is part of 337 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: the environment. We just need to set about cleaning up 338 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: those things where we've made a mess and protecting all 339 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: the areas this and everything that we have developed. We 340 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: have to make sure that it's in some kind of 341 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: balance and we can continue to live and thrive with 342 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: what we need from the natural world. 343 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: So are you currently working on any script processes for 344 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: movies or television? 345 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: These days I'm writing. These days, I'm writing my memoir, 346 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: I believe it or not. I've finished it pretty much. 347 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: I'll wait and see what a book ajor and a 348 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: publisher has to say about it. I'm certainly open to changes, 349 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: but I finished it. It's, you know, fifty four thousand 350 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: words or something. I think that's a good length for 351 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: a book like that. And I've enjoyed writing it. To 352 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: remember all that's happened in the past seventy two years 353 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: has been a joy. 354 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: And did you do that during the last couple of 355 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: years where you were particularly focused on it. 356 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: I just started it just after Christmas and before New 357 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Year's I just started a few months ago, and it 358 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: just poured out. 359 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: You know. I just thought, wow, one event connected to another. 360 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: And let me be clear here, a lot of these 361 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: are stories I've told many times over the year. Is 362 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: the story about Marlon Brando and the electric eres Eels 363 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: is the story I've told many times. A story about 364 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: you know, having a car accident on Christmas Eve on 365 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: Sunset Boulevard and Sam Vesandi, That's a story I've told 366 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: many times. And so I just wove all those stories 367 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: together in some hopefully coherent manner, and pretty soon it's 368 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: a book. 369 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: And did you have fun writing it? 370 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: I had great fun because the process of writing that 371 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: stuff that's part of your life. The keyboard becomes like 372 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: a Ouiji board, but one that's not bogus, one that 373 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: actually works. Well, wait a minute, why am I being 374 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: pulled over here to this event? What's happening? The Ouiji 375 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: board is trying to tell me something, But it really is. 376 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: One event connects to another. You open a door where 377 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: you haven't open in a while, and the process of 378 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: opening that door blows open other doors down that same 379 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: hallway that lead to things you haven't thought of in 380 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: fifty five years. 381 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: Wow, that's outstanding. 382 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 5: And do you when you list some of the characters 383 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: that you've played, are their favorite characters in particular? 384 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so. 385 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 5: Many characters you have played it would take me days 386 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 5: to list them, But are their particular favorites of yours? 387 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 3: Just by the longevity of it, by the length of it, 388 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: and the quality of it. Saint Elsewhere was a great show, 389 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: and that took place in Boston, of course, And I 390 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: was a California native moved to Boston to study medicine, 391 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: and I did that show for six years, you know, 392 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: with Denzel Washington and Bonnie Bartlett and Bill Daniels and 393 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: Ed Flanders and Christina Pickles, wonderful actors all David Morris. 394 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: I mean the quality of the acting, the quality of 395 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: the directing, the quality of the writing. Bruce Paltrow literally 396 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: changed my life by giving me that job. 397 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: I didn't get the job I wanted. 398 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to play doctor Peter White, but he got 399 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: killed three years into the show, and my character, which 400 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: is a minor character the pilot, like one or two lines, 401 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: became one of the major characters. Yeah, sometimes sometimes better 402 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: if you don't get what you want. 403 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 4: Buzz wow. 404 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: And what was it like working with that whole crew 405 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: around the Christopher Guest mockumentaries. How did you just get 406 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 5: through without completely being in stitches all the time. 407 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: It's nearly impossible to work with Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara. 408 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: They're trying to check into the Hotel invest in show 409 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: and you know there's no script, there's a treatment. You 410 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: know that the slug line that you have to operate 411 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: off of is Jaron cookie Fleck, which is Eugene and 412 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: Catherine try to check in the hotel. The credit card 413 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: doesn't work, that's all you have. But then you're dealing 414 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: with those two and look out. 415 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: Oh my god, And I would imagine you were channeling 416 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 5: in some instances, you know, hotel employees check in that 417 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: you probably had dealt with. 418 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 3: Is that exactly, and trying not to do what they 419 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: did in so many bogus scenes and movies that I've seen, 420 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: were sir, your credit card doesn't work, and somebody's kind. 421 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: When I've seen that happen, when somebody's credit card doesn't work, 422 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: or even mine didn't work, they're like, they pretend it's 423 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: not really happening there, anything but confrontational. I'm so it 424 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: must be the strip. Maybe it's the bad scrip. Let 425 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: me try to No, it's it's actually saying declined. 426 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: Is it possible. 427 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: They're not trying to, you know, make you feel bad. 428 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: They're trying to pretend it isn't happening, to help you 429 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: feel better. So I try to use that as my 430 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: guiding force with this and just keep it real with 431 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: those two, with Eugene and Catherine, and and then Michael 432 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: McKean and Michael Higgins check into the hotel too, and 433 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: that just I mean that was nearly impossible to. 434 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: Keep a straight straight face for those two. 435 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: Oh wait, God, do you watch your work from the past? 436 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: Ever? 437 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: I do. I'm very objective about it. 438 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: There's some stuff I don't like, but I mostly like 439 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: it because I work with good people. It's not that 440 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: I'm so good. I'm working with Eugene Levy and Katherine Ahara. 441 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm working with Michael Hitchcock, you know. I'm working with 442 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: Michael Higgins and Michael McKean. You know, Fred Willard, all 443 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: these great actors, actresses, and the incredible Chris Guest, you know, 444 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: Parker Posey. For God's sake, I just try to keep 445 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: up with those two. I just hang along, you know, 446 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: hang on to them for the ride, is. 447 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: What I do. 448 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: Is there anybody that you haven't worked with that you'd 449 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: like to work with. 450 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: There's a Boomman at Burbank Studios at Warner Brothers I 451 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: haven't worked with. And there's a Dolly Grip of twentieth 452 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have lunch with them this week. I'm gonna 453 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: put an end to that. There's two people that I 454 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 3: haven't met. I was born here, buzz, What am I 455 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: gonna do? 456 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: Born here? In forty nine at Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital. Doesn't 457 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: get any more Hollywood than that. 458 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: How is Hollywood changed? 459 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: It's changed in some good ways. 460 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, there's a lot less smog now because 461 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: of everything we did right. There's a lot of development. 462 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: There's sadly a lot of problems with homeless people now. 463 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: We need to find housing for those people as best 464 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: we can. It's a challenge. Not everybody in LA wants 465 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: to make room in their neighborhood for that, So we're 466 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: trying to be understanding of everybody's position that and do 467 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: it's best for all, and hopefully we'll get to that. 468 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: So it changed a lot, but there's a lot that's good. 469 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: Besides clean air, there's more opportunities for a lot of 470 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: people that should have have opportunities years ago, you know, 471 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: not just with voting, but access to jobs. 472 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 4: And what have you. You know, I finally became aware. 473 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 3: I think I was thirty years old before I really 474 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: realized that I won the lottery being born at Begley's Sun. 475 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: I really think I was that old a man, really 476 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: something like thirty one. Wait a minute, I got a 477 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: great deal here being born his son. 478 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: A lot of. 479 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: People didn't have that kind of privilege and that opportunity, 480 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: And so that's being addressed now, and I think that's 481 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: a wonderful thing and long overdue. 482 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: Who were some of his friends that you remember meeting 483 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: when you were young? 484 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 4: You know, I hadn't a clue who I was meeting. 485 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes we would go and stop at this couple's house 486 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: in Santa Barbara. His name was Paul and her name 487 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: was Bella. The two of them lived up there in 488 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: Santa Barbara. And it's like, Dad, when I want to 489 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: ride the cable cars in San Francisco, When are we 490 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: going to get out of here? 491 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: What time are we going to leave? 492 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: And they were talking about stuff, acting perhaps and other 493 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: things and just life, and I always wanted to get 494 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: away from that. It was Paul Muni, the great actor, 495 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Paul Muni. I was in the presence of greatness as 496 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: a kid. 497 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: You don't know that. 498 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: So then I cherished and tried to remember those stories. 499 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: When I realized who I was dealing with, I hadn't 500 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: seen fugitive from a chain Gang. 501 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: I haven't seen. 502 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: I didn't see hearing my father on Broadway and inherit 503 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: the Wind for which they both won Tony. So I 504 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 3: had just some guy, but he had a lot of 505 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: normal friends too, guys he worked with at a factory 506 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: in Hartford, Connecticut where he was born, called the wire 507 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: mold factory. Literally the kind of conduit, the molding that 508 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: they had used to run a wire like to an 509 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: overhead fan or to a light bulb in an office 510 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: or a home. It was called wire mold it was, 511 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: and you put the wires in there. You didn't want 512 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: them to short out or be somebody to cut them accidentally. 513 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: So they're in this. 514 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: And my dad worked at the wire mold plants, so 515 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 3: we had these friends that worked at that plant with him. 516 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: He was really basically a factory worker that made it 517 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: late in life, like when he was about forty. You 518 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: started to make it in radio in Hartford, Connecticut. Then 519 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: he went on to New York and did better in radio, 520 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: and he did stage place in New York, and then 521 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: finally movies, and he got nominated for and won an 522 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: Oscar for Sweep Bird of Youth. 523 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: So he was angry man. 524 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: Not a bad movie, what a cast, what a wonderful movie. 525 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 5: I grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, by the way, and 526 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 5: I started in radio actually in that area of Fairfield County, Connecticut. 527 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: So where your father started is kind of a special place. 528 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: So that's great. Ti s it's still there. 529 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: It is w tic AM and FM. 530 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. 531 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: There was a guy named Bob Steele who used to 532 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: work there. 533 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 4: I think that name was familiar. 534 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: I think he was there. 535 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: Sixty years before he ultimately retired from WOW from his craft. 536 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 5: So when you think of your start walking back, sure, 537 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: when you think of your craft, is there something that 538 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: you haven't learned, maybe that you would like to learn. 539 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: I really I'm enjoying life right now. Whatever my position 540 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: the food chain is, or you know, whatever work have 541 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: before me, I feel like I'm right on schedule, and 542 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: I you know, I'm just taking what comes my way. 543 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: I'm not very aggressive about seeking out parts. I'm very 544 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: lucky in that people come to me and ask me 545 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: to play part X, Y or Z, and I enjoy it. 546 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: If I don't enjoy what I'm reading, I won't do it. 547 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: Of course, I don't have to audition Ausman often, which 548 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: is nice. I just get asked to do a role 549 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: and I do it, and you know, it's a pretty 550 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: nice setup to still be in Hollywood. Still be working 551 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: fifty five years later. I just feel blessed. 552 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 5: So when you think of the world today with the 553 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: conflict that's going on, the Ukraine conflict there, which is 554 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 5: just so horrible, when you consider what entertainment means to people, now, 555 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 5: how important is it in light of the terrible things 556 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 5: that are happening, you know, in that war. 557 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: I think entertainment has drevened tremendous value to people, whatever 558 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: situation they're in, if they're doing well or doing so 559 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: so certainly doing poorly. I don't think the people in 560 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Ukraine can really think much about entertainment right now. They're 561 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: just thinking about getting water and food and you know, 562 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: getting sheltered from the elements. But they'll come a time 563 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: where they will be able to appreciate art again. You know, 564 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they don't appreciate it now, but they 565 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: just have other things to focus on. We need to 566 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: help them in every way that is humanly possible, and 567 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: there's relief organizations that want to do that. But sadly, 568 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: right now, as we walk along this river today, the 569 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: relief organizations are having a lot of trouble getting to 570 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: where they need to get to just because of infrastructure problems, 571 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: to apply chain problems, to get an fuel to get 572 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: on the bus it's going to get them there, to 573 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: give relief, to get a truck loaded up with food 574 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: or water to get to the people, it's hard to 575 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 3: get fuel for that truck. Even so we all need 576 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: to pitch in and every where we can and help 577 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: those people and help those relief organizations that can eventually 578 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: do something to better the lives of the folks in 579 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: the Ukraine. 580 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 4: Well. 581 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: And it's so important also to acknowledge how you know, 582 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: so many nonprofits have been challenged, certainly during the COVID crisis, 583 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: and I think there's so many of them that need help, 584 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: certainly because it's just been such a tough couple of years, 585 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 5: right it has. And I love the fact that Kathy 586 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: Anderson from the Walden Woods Project told me that during 587 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 5: COVID that the amount of people walking at Walden Pond 588 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 5: increased massively during the last. 589 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: Couple of years. 590 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: Wonderful because people are seeking the outdoors and I didn't 591 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 5: know that, buzz. 592 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: That's great news. 593 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: So I think that is really outstanding news. And I 594 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: have to thank you so much for taking a walk 595 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: with me. 596 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: I'm such an admirer of your work, but I'm such 597 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: an admirer also of what you're so passionate about your 598 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 5: activism and how you bring it forward to people with 599 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 5: honesty and dignity. And I'm just so grateful that you 600 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: and I got to take a walk here in the studio. 601 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: City meet too, Buzz. It's really great to see you again. 602 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 5: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 603 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts.