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Speaker 2: My best friend confessed that she only befriended me to

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Speaker 2: steal my boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: She's just monologuing my gosh all along ice scheme.

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Speaker 2: I am twenty three female lived in a two bed,

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Speaker 2: two bath apartment with my boyfriend twenty one male. Let's

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Speaker 2: call him Jack. Our relationship certainly wasn't perfect, but I

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Speaker 2: had serious rose colored glasses for its entirety. By the way,

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Speaker 2: our slash Okay Storytime Separate it. So we had been

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Speaker 2: dating for about a year when we started going to

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Speaker 2: a gaming lounge in our city. We're big gamers. While there,

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Speaker 2: we made a few friends and started hanging out at

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Speaker 2: their houses, where we met one of the guy's girlfriends

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Speaker 2: nineteen female. I think I honestly don't remember. Let's call

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Speaker 2: her Ivy. Side note. Her name was the name of

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Speaker 2: my favorite flower. Obviously I changed the name for the story.

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Speaker 3: So let's just.

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Speaker 2: Pretend my favorite flower is Ivy. I've always struggled with

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Speaker 2: making friends. I have severe anxiety, especially in social situations.

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Speaker 2: But ironically, I'm an extrovert and I've always gotten along

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Speaker 2: better with men than women. I honestly don't know why.

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Speaker 2: With that being said, I don't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: I really wanted a female friend that I could hang

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Speaker 2: out with and do girly things together. So I took

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Speaker 2: off as friends. It wasn't long after that that we

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Speaker 2: since she had been living with him, she yet to

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Speaker 2: with Jack and me, since I'm a bleeding heart and

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Speaker 2: Realize that that was a huge mistake. Another bit of

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Speaker 2: context here before I continue. I am a curvy woman,

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Speaker 2: I always have been, and I am plus sized at

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Speaker 2: the time, about an excel. I have always had bad

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Speaker 2: I am pan romantic. I will admit the time we

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Speaker 2: making tiktoks, watching YouTube, and buying matching clothes. She boosted

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Speaker 2: esteem issues actually started to dim a lot. It got

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Speaker 2: feelings for her. Oohoha, but no, opis a boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Oh shoot, right now, Yeah, they're living together?

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Speaker 2: Right, I thought she was living together with I and

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Speaker 2: Jack her boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Oh then that's a problem. That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Soon she admitted to having feelings for me too, as

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Speaker 2: well as Jack. She convinced me and Jack to enter

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Speaker 2: into a poly relationship with her.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, never mind, solve that problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I will say this relationship only lasted about

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Speaker 2: a week. She ended up saying she wasn't ready to

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Speaker 2: enter another relationship, which I respected. But not long after that,

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Speaker 2: Jack started to become a bit more distant from me. Oh,

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Speaker 2: He said we both needed to work on ourselves. I

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Speaker 2: We were still living together because I knew that if

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Speaker 2: I was the only one with a stable job. This

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Speaker 2: still like that something that should have been hashed out more.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a sitcom, yeah kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this sounds a messy, messy, messy messy.

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Speaker 3: Ivy always said.

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Speaker 2: She needed to work on her mental health before she

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Speaker 2: I'm a bleeding heart, and I was still in love

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Speaker 2: Ivy between the time the POLLI relationship ended and our breakup.

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Speaker 3: Wow, oh wow, oh wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: He apologized profusely, and I hugged him and told him

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Speaker 3: Why why? Yeah, he has already broke up. You don't

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Speaker 2: But in the moment, I thought that this was why

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Speaker 2: I showed him I wasn't angry, we could get back together.

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Speaker 3: Oh pee, your poor thing, bless your heart. Well that

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Speaker 2: Around Thanksgiving, Jack and Ivy became an official couple, and

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Speaker 2: not long after that we found out that Ivy was

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Speaker 2: pregnant with Jack's baby. Oh wow, ah wait ah wowe.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: I honestly had a series of mixed feelings surrounding this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I felt so betrayed that Ivy had essentially stolen the

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Speaker 2: since she was my best friend, I was also happy

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Speaker 3: Girl, why are you friends with these people? Get out

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Speaker 3: of there, get a new place if you can. Please,

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Speaker 3: please leave both Jack and Ivy please. They cheated on you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is not This is the kind of people that

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Speaker 2: I also felt betrayed by Jack because it didn't take

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Speaker 2: him look to get into another relationship. No, well he

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Speaker 2: was in another relationship during your relationship. Yeah, that's like,

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Speaker 2: that's really not a long time. Even though he said

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Speaker 3: Was lying, Yeah, he cheated on you, he was lying, Oh, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I tried so hard to hide my emotions and just

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Speaker 2: be happy for them, But then Ivy changed, Girl, stop

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Speaker 2: being happy.

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Speaker 3: For them, leave them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She began making incredibly mean comments to me. I honestly

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Speaker 2: can't remember all of them, but she would constantly berate

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Speaker 2: was also paying for prenatal vitamins and other things for Ivy.

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Speaker 2: She got upset when she saw me sitting on the

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Speaker 2: I found out from Jack that she was calling me

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Speaker 2: a fat cow to her own friend, let's call her Vanessa.

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Speaker 2: Eventually she went from being my best friend to emotionally me,

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Speaker 2: and even though I knew I was being mistreated, I

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Speaker 3: Why why why, there's no no why that you don't

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Speaker 3: owe these people anything. They literally they cheated and now

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Speaker 3: they're having a baby, which is not your business at all.

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Speaker 3: That's totally theirs.

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Speaker 2: You do not have to do anything, needs so much therapy, op. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you do not need to be in this situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh god.

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Speaker 2: The worst part was that Jack never defended me, of

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Speaker 2: course not. He cheated on you, and then he's having

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Speaker 2: he doesn't care about you. He doesn't, I'm sorry to say.

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Speaker 3: Op.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately it sis and you deserve much better. But he

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You would always just stay quiet whenever Ivy started on

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Speaker 2: lost all inspiration and motivation. It was like heck on Earth,

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Speaker 2: because of the rent.

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Speaker 3: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're paying for the rent, right. They can figure

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Speaker 2: it out. Eventually, though, they put their foot down and

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Speaker 2: gave me an exact date of when they would come

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Speaker 2: I was absolutely panic by this, but there was nothing

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Speaker 3: You need so much therapy? Ope, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I said to Jack was to please

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Speaker 2: let me know if I left anything behind, and to

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Speaker 2: put his side for me to pick up later. I

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Speaker 2: tried to stay in contact with Jack during this time. No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really speak to him outside of rehearsals. We

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Speaker 2: before we broke up.

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Speaker 3: More connections to these people, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: And I tried to be civil with Ivy. Jack always

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Speaker 2: brought her with, but she was still towards me. After

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Speaker 2: the production was over, Jack and I pretty much did

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Speaker 2: not talk at all. However, in February of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: Jack reached out to me via text they always do.

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Speaker 2: He talked with me about how things weren't going well

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Speaker 2: in his relationship with Ivy.

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Speaker 3: And he comes.

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Speaker 2: Crawling back, and you know what, you say nothing, You

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Speaker 2: don't respond, That's right. She was apparently constantly leaving the

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Speaker 2: You don't deserve to like have to be, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're not responsible for helping them even if

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Speaker 2: And you aren't gonna help everyone, so helps no one.

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Speaker 2: It also seems like a Jack never really apologized. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sorry for what we like cheating on you. Yeah, well

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Speaker 3: But when someone's like coming to like this and apologizing

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Speaker 2: But there is more to the story whatever, I guess

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Speaker 2: I now live alone, still single, but I'm living in

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Speaker 2: So it was never about Jack, It's about you. She's

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Speaker 2: When she didn't get the reaction she wanted from taking

438
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Speaker 2: your boyfriend, all of a sudden, Jack became useless. And

439
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Speaker 2: if you maybe think her behavior has something to do

440
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Speaker 2: with you, I don't think so. Ivy maybe is just

441
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: a type of person who thrives on other people's misery.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeahah oh my, Yeah, that definitely is another thing too,

443
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 3: is like, like, you know, she's so angry at ivy,

444
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: but it is not expressing any anger towards Jack. But

445
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: he is absolutely in the wrong for so many things,

446
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: absolutely like did so many bad things. But I'm glad

447
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 3: you're in therapy. Yeah, glad to stay stay there. I'm

448
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 3: glad Jack is engaged to someone else. It's the same.

449
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Speaker 3: So you know there's baby steps here. Yeah, I'm glad,

450
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story. My bridal

451
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 3: party planned to ruin my wedding day, so I took action. Yeah,

452
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: action and finding a new bridal party.

453
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Speaker 5: Oom.

454
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Speaker 3: I like the mappleic. I Gen twenty one female and

455
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Speaker 3: my fiance Aaron twenty four male, are getting married in

456
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Speaker 3: just a few months. We have been together for three

457
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Speaker 3: years and have been dreaming about our wedding from a

458
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: very early on in our relationship. However, we knew we

459
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: had to wait a bit longer than we wanted to

460
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Speaker 3: because I was in a bad job and he was

461
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Speaker 3: in college working hard to get a good job to

462
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Speaker 3: support us. By the way, this comes from odd Protection

463
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Speaker 3: five seven twenty two And if you want to submit

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Speaker 3: your own stories, just go to the ur slash Okay

465
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Speaker 3: Storytime subredit. We had already chosen the people we wanted

466
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: in our wedding party early on as well. Some of

467
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 3: my bridesmaids, though, have shown me a different side of

468
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 3: themselves now that they have accepted the role. Right row

469
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 3: not good timing for that. We started getting everything set

470
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: and stone about sixteen months before the wedding date. I

471
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: have six bridesmaids as of right now, but the only

472
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Speaker 3: ones important to the story are Janet and Mary, who

473
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: are sisters, and my sister Eluise made of honor. I

474
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: have known Janet and Mary for almost my entire life.

475
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: They are both older than I am, with adult children

476
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: around my age. They used to attend my church until

477
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: nine months after some drama happened between Mary and someone

478
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: at the church. I respected this decision. I didn't feel

479
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: like it was any of my business, and I had

480
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: known them so long that I had no thought on

481
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: my mind that it could change anything between us. Five

482
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: months into planning, I set up a group chat with

483
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: the girls, giving them details whenever I could. Here are

484
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: the four colors you can choose from for your dress.

485
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: I just want you to feel confident and radiant as

486
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: a bridesmaid. It just please stay away from lace, as

487
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: my dress is lace. I don't care how you get

488
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: your makeup done. I am getting mine done natural glam,

489
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: but if you want to go glam, go glam. I

490
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 3: don't care about the hair either, Just do what makes

491
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Speaker 3: you feel good. This is the venue. I hire a

492
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Speaker 3: makeup artists for us. All keep that in mind. Later

493
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: ask them if they wanted to join me to go

494
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: dress shopping, and the only ones who were free were Janet,

495
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: Mary and Elouise. At this time, they were still acting

496
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Speaker 3: normally and I was very excited to have them with me.

497
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: I found my dress at the first dress shop we visited,

498
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: and I am still in love with it. I cannot

499
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Speaker 3: wait to wear on my wedding day. They were all

500
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 3: supportive and told me that I was gorgeous, and then

501
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: they couldn't wait to see me walk down the aisle.

502
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Speaker 3: Before I forget to mention. My sister and I used

503
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: to be very close, but once she married a man

504
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: she had just met and moved two states away within

505
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: six months, our relationship became strange.

506
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 5: That makes sense.

507
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: Then three months into their marriage, she got pregnant with

508
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: my niece, causing more strain on us as she was

509
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: less willing to travel to see me and I was

510
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: unable to travel to her because I was working six

511
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: days a week, ten hours a day trying to afford

512
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: a wedding. Wow, that's a lot oikes. But I'm the

513
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: kind of person who wears my heart on my sleeve,

514
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: and I often let people walk all over me. I've

515
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: given her and her husband some money, as neither of

516
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: them works. I had no problem doing that until I

517
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: found out that he was using the gas money I

518
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: was setting to them to pay for video games, so

519
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: I stopped. I voiced my concerns early on, as he

520
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: still lives with his mom. But my sister was set

521
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: on marrying this man, so I supported her in every

522
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: way I could at the micro Courthouse wedding as the

523
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: only bridesmaid and maid of honor. Now that my niece

524
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: is almost two, I feel like the sister I once

525
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: looked up to and loved no longer exists. She is

526
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: very different in all the bad ways. She seems to

527
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: have a mental disorder or something of the sort. She

528
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: paints herself as the victim in every scenario. Our parents

529
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: made a lot of mistakes, but she makes it seem

530
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: like it was worse for her, even though she has

531
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: been the golden child all my life. She now throws

532
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: you sound like Mom in my face anytime I suggest

533
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: that maybe it's just the way she's choosing to view

534
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: her circumstances, and maybe Mom is right. Yeah, maybe sometimes

535
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 3: Mom was right all along. Maybe Mom knows a thing

536
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: or two. Instead of making the effort to change the outcome,

537
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: she just wants everyone to feel sorry for her. Maybe

538
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: that's harsh. I don't know. This has been going on

539
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: for two years, and every time we call she asks

540
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: me how I am. She interrupts me to tell me

541
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: that she hasn't much worse. Your girl is tired of

542
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: hearing it. Recently, she came up for Christmas, and while

543
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: she was with Aaron and me, she couldn't stop interrupting him.

544
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: He'd open his mouth, say two words, and then she'd

545
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: talk all over him. I told her to please wait,

546
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: but she ignored me, and this happened several times. Then

547
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: when I I raised my voice and told her to

548
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: stop talking over him, she called me a couple of

549
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: choice words and claims that I was trying to make

550
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: her feel like she wasn't cared for or wanted in

551
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: my life anymore. That is such a giant jump yea

552
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: from what actually happened. Yeah, like she's trying to offer

553
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: advice and she's like me, she's just like quite down.

554
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: I want to hear him talk. You'd be like, oh,

555
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 3: you don't even want me to be alive.

556
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I guess I'll just like in the countries exactly.

557
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: But I often bend over backwards, holding tightly to our

558
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: relationship no matter how much she disrespects me. So anyway,

559
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: a few months ago, I asked what everyone was thinking

560
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: for a bachelorette, since my sister wouldn't be planning it

561
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: as she couldn't afford it, and she would want us

562
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: at a spicy club, which isn't what I want. The

563
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: response I got from Mary was, you're having a bachelorette.

564
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: I suggested dinner I'll pay, an Airbnb's girls night i'll pay,

565
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: or shopping day I'll drive. Janet, Mary and Elouise responded

566
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: with I can't afford dinner. I don't want to be

567
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: away from my husband that long, and I don't want

568
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: to have to travel that far just to shop. Wait,

569
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: how long are they traveling again? I don't know. It

570
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: didn't really say it's at a shopping day all drive,

571
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: So I guess they're going somewhere, some fancy outlet store

572
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: or something. Presumably this is like an hour max away

573
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: to a little shopping mall. I don't want to do that.

574
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: They can't be.

575
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Away from their husband for a day.

576
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might have been for the Airbnb girls night,

577
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: but it's just one night though. Yeah, come like either way,

578
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: you guys are coin, you can survive. So I talked

579
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: with Aaron and he said that he and his groomsmen

580
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 3: were going camping and that the bridesmaids could bring their

581
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: husbands and we just do a joint event. I love

582
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: him so much. But the response there from Janet and

583
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Mary was no, that's weird. We don't even know the

584
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: grooms men. And that was that, and I agree for

585
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: a few days before deciding I'd just go get a

586
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: massage by myself. A few days after that mess, Mary

587
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 3: messaged me this, Hey, Jen, I just wanted to let

588
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: you know that Jennet and I hired our own makeup

589
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: artists for the wedding. We're also getting our hairstylist to

590
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: do our hair. My response, hey, Mary, Oh, I was

591
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: pretty sure. I messaged the group chat about four months ago,

592
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: letting everyone know I I have already hired and paid

593
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: a makeup artists to do all of our makeup because

594
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: I knew some of the bridesmaids can't afford one, and

595
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want anyone to feel left out. So if

596
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: you haven't put any money down, don't worry about the

597
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: makeup artist. If you already have, I'm sure that my

598
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: mom and Aaron's would love their makeup done, so no worries. However,

599
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: I have no luck getting a hairstylist. Can you send

600
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: me the contact for yours? Mary, you didn't want to

601
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: communicate with us personally. I haven't checked the group chat,

602
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: so it's not my fault. I already hired someone to

603
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: do our makeup when you didn't want to take the

604
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: time to make sure that we were all aware of

605
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: the message you said. Did you literally just hear yourself.

606
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: I didn't check the group chat, so it's not my

607
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: fault that I didn't see your message. Ah, that's just

608
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: you sound. You sound that's so.

609
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: And look at the messages where we're talking about the

610
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: freaking weddings.

611
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: So it's not my fault, not my fault, Yes it is,

612
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: you just said, you just said, it's your fault. So

613
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: what what? That's crazy me. I'm so sorry it said

614
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: it was read and delivered to you all, or else

615
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: I would have contacted you. She then sent me the

616
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: number for the hairstylist. I messaged the woman, no response.

617
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: I messaged again. She read the message but never responded,

618
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: so I gave up. After paying almost two thousand dollars

619
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: for the makeup artist, I was not able to cover

620
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: everyone else's hair anyway, so rather than make it mandatory,

621
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: I asked how many wanted a hairstylist and who didn't.

622
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: The only ones who did were Janet and Mary. I

623
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: got a message from Janet after asking this in the

624
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: group chat, complaining that she and her sister feel that

625
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: the other bridesmaids will see them as stuck up because

626
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: they hired a hairstylist, but I, the bride, will be

627
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: doing my own hair. I did not respond. It's been

628
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: months since I messaged. Several bridesmaids, including Janet and Mary,

629
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: told me that they wanted to help with housewarming and

630
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: lingerie showers. Of course, I asked after the new year

631
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: if anyone still wanted to do this, and if not,

632
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: so I could get it together. Janet's retort was, you're

633
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: asking way too much of us. I've planned this wedding

634
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: by myself for the last twelve months. I have not

635
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: asked for help. The only thing I've asked them to

636
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: pay for is their dress, which they have re arrange

637
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: to pick from. The only thing I've asked them to

638
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: commit to is at dinner sometime before the wedding, so

639
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: that they know before the rehearsal dinner what the plan is,

640
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: who they're walking down with, etc. I was given several

641
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: complaints about this as well. You don't seem to understand

642
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: we all have lives outside of your wedding from Janet

643
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: shut off, Janet shut up. For some reason, I was

644
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: surprised that my sister didn't stand up for me. I

645
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: am not a confrontational person, so I was doing my

646
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: best to just forget the comments and get the wedding plan. However,

647
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: just recently, my cousin made me aware that he wouldn't

648
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: be at my wedding as he will be out of town.

649
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: He and my sister were even closer than my sister

650
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: and I were, and she considers him her safe person.

651
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: My sister calls me and tells me that now that

652
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: he's not coming. She is not as excited to be

653
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: at the wedding because there are people going to be

654
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: there that she doesn't really want to see. However, she'll

655
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: do it since it's her sister. Lead duty. Girl.

656
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: You're so cd, I am.

657
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: So generous, and so you're such a philanthropist. That's your wow,

658
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: getting rid of all these people.

659
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: None of you are invited to my wedding anymore, or

660
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: gone boot them.

661
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: If you don't want to go, fine, fine, don't go.

662
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: Don't go. Yeah geez. Not even an hour after this

663
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: phone call, someone who was mutual friends with Janet, Mary

664
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: and Me calls me. I was not going to tell

665
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: you because I didn't want to start drama, but I

666
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: would want someone to tell me if it was flipped drowned,

667
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: she said. I asked, what are you saying? I was

668
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: at dinner with Janet and Mary last night and they

669
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: couldn't stop talking so badly about you. They called you

670
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: a controlling bridezilla. They said that you have a specific

671
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: hair style you want them to wear, that you want

672
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: budge on. That you forced them to pay for a

673
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: makeup artist but no one else had to. They said

674
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: that you made them buy multiple dresses because you didn't

675
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: like the ones that they chose, and that you punted

676
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: them out of the Actelorette because they couldn't afford it go.

677
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: But the kicker was that when Mary said that she

678
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: didn't even want to be in the wedding because you

679
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: didn't leave the church over her drama, so that she

680
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: is thinking about just dropping out a few weeks before

681
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: the wedding or acting sick the day of Yeah, get

682
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: them out. Oh my god, they're out of the wedding.

683
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: They're literally out of the wedding. Easiest decision ever. You're

684
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: literally out of the wedding easily, easily. I already have

685
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: people that will want to use the makeup artists that

686
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: will like happily get their makeup done, and we have

687
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: a solution for it, like, oh, they're gone, They're out

688
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: of the wedding. Everything was a lie. Everything. I was

689
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: in shock. I couldn't speak. I had just told Mary

690
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: that she could wear the dress that she was insistent on,

691
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: which is completely lace, even though I had asked them

692
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: to stay away from lace because I wanted her to

693
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: feel incredible. I was grateful this person knew all of

694
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: that is not true. She suggested calling my therapist and

695
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: punting them out of the wedding. Then I was made

696
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: aware that several of my guests, whom I've considered my

697
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: friends for years, are going around spreading these same lines

698
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: about me, I guess, choosing Janet and Mary over me,

699
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: and claiming that they weren't invited to the wedding even

700
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: though they were because I'm too cheap and had to

701
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: lower the guest scout to afford a wedding. Oh my goodness,

702
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: this is all such lies just being pulled out from

703
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: all their butts. Oh my goodness, get.

704
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Your butts out of my feast man, your fat lies

705
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: out my face, out of the town, like literally, like

706
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm pausing. Yeah, this is what you do. You go

707
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: to Mary and freaking Janet and you say, hey, I

708
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: was hearing a lot of stuff that you guys were saying.

709
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like you guys want to be part

710
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: of the wedding anymore. Yeah, you don't have to yell

711
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: at them, you don't have to argue, just say, calmly,

712
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to work out anymore.

713
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Thank you for agreeing to be my bridesmaid at the time.

714
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, longer. Need you to do that now? Yeah?

715
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely just leave it. Yeah, just get rid of them,

716
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: Get rid of them. I started removing people from my

717
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: guest list and others removed themselves for me. Thanks to

718
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: the Knot. In twenty four hours, I went from a

719
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty guests to one hundred twenty. Aaron

720
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: wants me to cut Janet and Mary and Elouise. I'm

721
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: really thank thinking about it. So what do you think.

722
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: I feel bad as they've bought their dresses and pay

723
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: for they're hair, and I know that they can't get

724
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: them money. But that's what I think that OPI should do,

725
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: and what I think that you guys should do is

726
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, let's finish this story off and if it

731
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: doesn't end with them not going to this wedding, However,

732
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: I also.

733
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: Don't want any drama on the day of the wedding,

734
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: and I don't want to worry about whether they will

735
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: or won't come that day. Aaron wants us to sit

736
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: down with Janet and Mary and Luise to tell them

737
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: that they're all uninvited as guests and bridesmaids and that

738
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: he will not let them continue walking over me like

739
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: they have. So what I be the a whole We

740
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: already have our answer. No, clearly not no, you be

741
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: the ahle. If they came, they literally actually did just

742
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: say that they don't want to go. They said they

743
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: were going to leave, they were going to not show up.

744
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: They're literally gonna be UN's the thick. I can't that's

745
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: what they're gonna do for your own wedding day. Imagine

746
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: being a bridesmaid and dropping on the day of because

747
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: you're far crazy. You're crazy, it's crazy. But that is

748
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751
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Speaker 2: My sister in law wants to have a joint wedding reception.

752
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: I stood firm and said.

753
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: No, just say yeah the kids.

754
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: A year ago, my brother, twenty five male, got married

755
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: in secret. My boyfriend and I were the only one

756
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: of our friends and family who knew about it.

757
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: Secret wedding, Secret wedding.

758
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: He was only a few months out of a divorce,

759
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: and I think he was desperately lonely. By the way,

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762
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Speaker 2: So I was actually living with him because he had

763
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: begged me to come live with him after the divorce,

764
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: and my profession makes it relatively easy for me to

765
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: relocate The sister in law twenty seven female Candice was

766
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: an O pair from China looking to marry for citizenship.

767
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: They got married after knowing each other for two.

768
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: Two weeks woe.

769
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: My boyfriend and I convinced my brother a few days

770
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: after they had married to tell my parents. My mom

771
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: was upset at being kept at a loop, but I

772
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: took Candas out for manicures in coffee to celebrate and

773
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: welcome her in the family. It was weird for all

774
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: of us though, because of the secrecy and it coming

775
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: so soon after my brother's first marriage. My mom asked

776
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: me to ask her if she wanted a bigger wedding

777
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: sometime in the future, if they should start saving and

778
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: help contribute. Cannis said then that she had never wanted

779
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: a big wedding and that she was fine with the

780
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: courthouse wedding. My sister in law and I are not close.

781
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: I moved out right after they got married and found

782
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: a job in a new city an hour away, and

783
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: as I was packing up, she stole a bunch of items.

784
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

785
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: For example, I packed up my kitchen supplies and I

786
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: had a box of at least one hundred dollars worth

787
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: of spices. My boyfriend was helping me move stuff into

788
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: a van, and we thought we'd lost the box. Then

789
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: my boyfriend found it hidden under some stuff in the garage.

790
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: She also grabbed some of my prettier candy dishes and glasses.

791
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: I thought they had been lost in the move, but

792
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: I've seen them on display when I visited my brother.

793
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

794
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: Chosen to take that.

795
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: As a loss because it seemed kind of petty and

796
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: could have been an honest mistake. But Paul and I

797
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: have our suspicion the issue. Fast forward to now, my

798
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: boyfriend Paul thirty three mail and I got engaged. I

799
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: told my mom and she flew out for a weekend

800
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: of wedding stuff just for fun. We looked at dresses,

801
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: tasted cakes at the cake shop, talked about venues and

802
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: guest lists. We just generally had a blast. My brother

803
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: and sister in law currently live an hour away, so

804
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: they came up for dinner Sunday night. My mom was

805
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: very excitedly talking about dresses, guests, and venues. At dinner,

806
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: Paul and I could feel jealousy just oozing off of Candace.

807
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: She was shooting me clarees whenever my mom wasn't looking.

808
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: After they all left, I cried because I knew some

809
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: kind of shoe was going to draw from her. Paul

810
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: and I discussed it and decided to have the wedding

811
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: at his family home back east to try to protect

812
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: us from whatever Candace was going to do. I told

813
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: my parents and they requested to throw West Coast reception

814
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: at their house the week after our wedding ceremony for

815
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: friends and family who can't make it out to the

816
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: East Coast. But still I don't want to come to celebrate.

817
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: I was actually looking forward to it and thinking it

818
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: would be sweet and low pressure to have some lifelong

819
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: friends and family at some kind of picnic lunch, maybe

820
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: with games and music and stuff. So now this shoe

821
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: has dropped my parents, my brother and sister in law

822
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: are having Thanksgiving together, and my mom texted me last night.

823
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: She said that Candace is planning a wedding in China

824
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: two months before mine, where she will also, at the

825
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: time formally announce her marriage with my brother to all

826
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: our extended family and friends who still don't know they're married.

827
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: My brother introduces her as his girlfriend at family gatherings.

828
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Candace wants a joint West Coast reception with me.

829
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: That's not happening. No, I'd just be like, uh, this

830
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: is so weird. Yeah, first and foremost, No, no, no,

831
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: Why is nobody even told that they've been married?

832
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one's aware about this marriage.

833
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: I have so many questions on your brother's end that just.

834
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: Your brother is going through something.

835
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure everyone has questions here. I think your.

836
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: Brother is being scammed or actually, I guess has been scammed.

837
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 4: I just want to know what's going through his mind

838
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: of like, yeah, let's get married two weeks in and

839
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: let's not tell anyone about it, and then let's have

840
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: a celebration where, you know, maybe three months in we

841
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: have a marriage. It doesn't make any sense to me.

842
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: I'm livid and a bawling mess. Our ceremony on the

843
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: East Coast is at least untouchable by her. But I

844
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: don't want my first and only marriage to be in

845
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: any way linked with my brother's second marriage. I can

846
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: barely stand my sister in law, and our relationship is

847
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: more one of forced politeness and tolerance than any kind

848
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: of friendship. I absolutely do not want to share a

849
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: reception with her. I just kind of need an outside perspective.

850
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Is this petty on my parts?

851
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: No?

852
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a bridezilla, and I would

853
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: like for friends and relatives who can't make it to

854
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: the East Coast have something to come to if they want.

855
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: But I don't want to share a reception with that woman.

856
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Is there any way I can get out of it

857
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: but still do something for friends and family who can't

858
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: make it to the East Coast and there is an update? Literally,

859
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: the way that you get out of it is by

860
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: saying no, sorry, that's not going to work. I talked

861
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: to my mom found out more information. Family and friends

862
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: who can't make it to the East Coast have been

863
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: reaching out to my mom and were planning to give

864
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: gifts of their time and expertise for the West Coast reception,

865
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: such as performing music. A friend is offered to provide

866
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: catering at cost with food. She knows, I like another

867
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: friend whose photography I've admired for years, will be taking pictures.

868
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: Oh nice.

869
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: A lot of that was supposed to have been a

870
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: surprise for me. My mom just explained it to me

871
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: so I would know why she had said no to Candace.

872
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: After my mom said no to Candas about the joint receptions,

873
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: good on your mom for setting up the.

874
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: BA is one of the w moms in the way.

875
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: Usually we get the opposite.

876
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: Candace changed her mind and said she and my brother

877
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: will not be attending the West Coast reception and has

878
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: been calling it a fake wedding and charity. She's also

879
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: decided that she wants to attend our East Coast wedding,

880
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: and she's asking either my parents or my fiance and

881
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: me to pay for their plane tickets out there. She's

882
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: saying that two weddings is excessive and if I can

883
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: have to, I can afford a flyer out to one.

884
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Just say no, Like, just keep saying no, no.

885
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: She's saying, yeah, no, sorry, if you can't make it,

886
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: that's you know, we'll miss you.

887
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: Guess what if it gets to that point, just say

888
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: that's yeah.

889
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: My fiance does not want her there and is considering

890
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: a list of ground rules per behavior, all based on

891
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: her past actions at weddings, good and holidays too.

892
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone in your family other than your brother and

893
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 4: your sister.

894
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: In law, if it falls on us to pay for

895
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: their ticket out. Number one, no insults or backhanded compliments

896
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: said to or about any of his family or me.

897
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: Number two, cell phone off during the ceremony. Number three

898
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: no unnecessary hospitalizations or life altering announcements for three days

899
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: before or after the event. I want to just say

900
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: nothing to her about the tickets, as she has not

901
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: directly asked me. Then if my parents want to fly

902
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: them out, fine. My best friend is offered to keep

903
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: an eye on her, and I have seen her handle

904
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: similar people very well.

905
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: This is a crazy everyone's playing the part that they

906
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: need to pay.

907
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: I know, it's literally just the sister in laws.

908
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 4: Even the brother in law. Seems like the brother hasn't

909
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 4: done anything, said anything. It's just you know, I'll take that.

910
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: My other thought was to maybe try to do something

911
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: next first, and she kind of got a raw deal

912
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: for her wedding, and I think that's what this is about,

913
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: that maybe kindness from me would eliminate the drama to

914
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: some extent.

915
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: I doubt it.

916
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: I asked my brother about it, and he said, no

917
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: showers or parties because he's embarrassed about remarrying so quickly

918
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: after his divorce and doesn't want the spotlight on him

919
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: at all.

920
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: So why do any of you get married?

921
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: Then?

922
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: Hold up?

923
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: He's like, you don't want to celebrate my new wife

924
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: at all because I'm embarrassed about marrying her.

925
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: I would be like, did you hear what you just said?

926
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: Make it make sense.

927
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: He also knew nothing about the request for joint receptions

928
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: and says he has refused to do a Chinese wedding,

929
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what's going on anymore. It's not

930
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: really a fancy wedding. I'm buying my dress secondhand, and

931
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: my friends and I are making the decorations, and the

932
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: venue is my fiance's grandmother's home. But it seems very

933
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: excessive compared to what she got. She has been saying

934
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: as much to my mom. It's just feeling like too

935
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: much hassle. Should we just elope? But there is a

936
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: second update let's get into it. Thank you all so much.

937
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: Paul and I have been reading all of the responses.

938
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: We took many people's advice and are scrapping the rules.

939
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: They were funny and interesting to come up with in

940
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: regards to past behavior, but there would be no way

941
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: to enforce them, and it would just give her more

942
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: information about what petty things she does that most bother us.

943
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: That's fair, sure.

944
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: I also talked to my mom and asked her to

945
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: stop updating Candace with plans about the wedding and to

946
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: stop talking to me about what Candace says. I told

947
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: her it's been stressing me out, so she agreed to

948
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: stop nice and that has been truly a wonderful gift.

949
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: It's like this heavy cloud has been lifted from the

950
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: whole thing. Thank you to everyone who advised that. Paul

951
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: and I decided our ceremony and a small reception after

952
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: is what's most important to us, so we are putting

953
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: our energy into planning that to be special and specific

954
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: and meaningful to us. Our paper invitations are only going

955
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: to invite people to that. One brother and sister in

956
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: law will get a paper invitation without strings attached.

957
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: We're not paying their way, though.

958
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: If she acts up at the ceremony, then she acts up.

959
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for the stories and perspectives there from people.

960
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: And we want to thank you.

961
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: For listening to full episodes of stories just like this.

962
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search a.

963
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 3: Bookast very time. But there is a little bit left

964
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: to the story. Any final thoughts.

965
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: Everyone sounds pretty healthy other than brother and sister in law.

966
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: Like I said, I feel like after the wedding, you

967
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: really got to talk to your brother and be like, Hey,

968
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: what's really going on here? Because this seems all irrational

969
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: and not you. That's the only thing. I'd pay no attention,

970
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: give her no energy the time of day if you

971
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: just ignore her, Yeah, ignore her. Get your things back, by.

972
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: The way, steal your last wear back.

973
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 4: Gets your things about candy dishes. Those are yours, man,

974
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: Don't let that slide. I'm sorry if those are your things.

975
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: And then take pictures, have a little photoshoot with them. Yes,

976
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: but there is a little bit left. I talked it

977
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: over with my mom. She and her friends will plan

978
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: and put on the second reception so they can be

979
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: in charge of who to invite. I told her I'm

980
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: not sticking my neck out either away in terms of

981
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: how much of a spotlight Candice and brother's relationship is

982
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: for that one.

983
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: I told her Paul.

984
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: And I decided any extra attention or music or poems

985
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: we get beyond our own wedding days just extra, and

986
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: we we will appreciate it, but we're not going to

987
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: be directive at all about that one. I was most

988
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: stressed about sharing it because of the power plays, spiteful comments,

989
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: and compromises I was going to have to deal with

990
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: during the planning process. But now that I'm not part

991
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: of planning, I really don't care about sharing the focus

992
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: with anyone else, as is your rights. The day is

993
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: about you and.

994
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: Your partner exactly do what you awys want to do

995
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: that it seems like you guys have communicated that to

996
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: a t and everyone's respecting that other than just one

997
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: person in the story. Even your brother is like kind

998
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: of complying in this way. So just do your thing.

999
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: Don't worry about her, I say, don't even invite her,

1000
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: doesn't need to be there.

1001
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: I agree, but that's the end of that story.

1002
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: My sister in law pretends to like me but is

1003
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: secretly ruining my reputation. He's like, so, I female twenty six,

1004
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: just got married to my best friend slash soulmate, male

1005
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: thirty three, and I couldn't be happier. Marriage has just

1006
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: been amazing. I don't know how else to probably describe it,

1007
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 4: but words don't really do it justice. By the way,

1008
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: this comes from user Sarcy, and if you want to

1009
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

1010
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: storytime subreddit. So his family, for the most part, are

1011
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 4: lovely people. His mom is basically the mom I never had.

1012
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: I have a very strained, distant relationship with mine due

1013
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: to her beliefs and our disagreements of lifestyle choices. I

1014
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: still love her deep down, but I've already grieved the relationship.

1015
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: Slash had some therapy sessions around it, and it is

1016
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: what it is. I do have a great relationship with

1017
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 4: an ant who is like a second mom though let's

1018
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: go Yes, he has a sister in law. Don't know

1019
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: exact age, but let's say late thirties. That is everything

1020
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: I'm not. She's very into designer clothes, heavy makeup, botox,

1021
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 4: always has nails so long, so I'm not sure how

1022
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: she goes to the bathroom, never wears proper shoes for

1023
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: the weather, and it is very talkative as to be

1024
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: the center of attention. I used to tolerate her for

1025
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: family dinners just fine. She's very different, which I found entertaining,

1026
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: and I do love to hear a different on politics

1027
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: and et cetera. I also kind of loved the fact

1028
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: that she had to always be the center of attention,

1029
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: because I do not enjoy that. It starts to get

1030
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: weird when she actively doesn't like me for reasons I

1031
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: don't know, and makes it very known. She's forgotten to

1032
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: invite my husband and me to at least three dinners

1033
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: we know about. One was her son's birthday party, so

1034
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: we looked extra terrible, but told everyone we were coming,

1035
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: making it look bad on our part. I would have

1036
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 4: been fine if she just didn't invite us for whatever reason,

1037
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: especially if she didn't want too many people there during

1038
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: the VID, but telling people we were coming is shady.

1039
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: Whenever she does come over to our house for dinner,

1040
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: she doesn't even say hi to me anymore and never

1041
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 4: offers to help clean up. She expects me or others

1042
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: to play with her kid, who is one of my

1043
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: favorite kids. Ever, but I, who doesn't have kids yet,

1044
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: I am not used to entertaining them while trying to

1045
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 4: cook and host dinner at the same time. My husband

1046
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: and I usually take turns entertaining him again sister in

1047
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: law's child, unless others are there, which is a nice

1048
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: change of pace and good practice since we want to

1049
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: have kids someday. We've offered a babysit the boy multiple times,

1050
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: but only have done it once as a last resort

1051
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 4: because she doesn't like when we babysit for no good reason.

1052
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: What what, you're helping out and you enjoy the kid.

1053
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 4: I don't understand the.

1054
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 5: Kind of person who's like, you're just offering to babysit

1055
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: because you think I can't parent properly.

1056
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that's what it is, but let's keep

1057
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: you going. She also almost never helps out when our

1058
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: mother in law makes dinner or has us over for

1059
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: a meal, so I usually end up feeling bad and

1060
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 4: helping her out. Good on you. It's a big family,

1061
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: and depending on what you're making, it can be difficult

1062
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: to cook dinner entirely yourself unless you really plan ahead.

1063
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: The mother in law always offers to help when she's

1064
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: over at both the witch's house and mine. The witch

1065
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: being the sister in law, plus the mother in law's

1066
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: food is delicious, so I try to help along with

1067
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 4: my husband, so we're invited back for more delicious food.

1068
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 4: Playing checkers, playing the long note they're playing. You're playing checkers,

1069
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: not chess, here playing the easy game. This all changed

1070
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: when my husband's sister came into town. My husband warned

1071
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: me about this, but I didn't know it was this bad.

1072
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 4: She was super friendly to me, which she never is,

1073
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: and was super involved with her kid. I didn't need

1074
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: to entertain the kid at all this time. She offered

1075
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: to help out with things and was so happy we

1076
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: got married. When we initially told her and her husband

1077
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: we eloped on a whim, she didn't even come out

1078
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: of her house to say congratulations. She just said congrats

1079
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: in an unimpressed tone inside while we were outside and

1080
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 4: walked away. Could you imagine like, just like congrats, close

1081
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: the door. Yeah, I'm telling you that's what it is.

1082
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: I feel like just when you whenever you take the

1083
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: center of attention or everyone's giving all their attention to you. Op,

1084
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: She's like, it's heart fault.

1085
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 5: Just you know, don't acknowledge it yeah, or like, don't

1086
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 5: play into the like how dare you not congratuate? Just

1087
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: be like whatever, thank you heartfelt congratulation.

1088
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: What I say is just do it with kindness. Just

1089
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 4: keep doing your thing, be kind and you know because

1090
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 4: when you make that one wrong move, she will double

1091
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: down on it and make it blow up in your face.

1092
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: You just gotta kill them with kindness.

1093
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 4: Yep. Also, before we could tell my husband's sister, someone

1094
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: we know it was her told her that we already

1095
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: got married. When we specifically ask people, we told not

1096
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: to spread the news until we were able to tell

1097
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: them ourselves. We wanted to explain a few reasons why

1098
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: we eloped since we did not want to offend anyone.

1099
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: She also just overtook the entire conversation with my husband's

1100
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: sister that he doesn't get to see very often. I

1101
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 4: felt bad for my husband as he didn't get to

1102
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 4: spend any decent quality time with her the entire week.

1103
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: This is where it gets super petty. I made a

1104
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: batch of bread using a really easy recipe online the

1105
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: weekend before while the sister in law was over for

1106
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: dinner and her husband really liked it. Uh, oh, you're

1107
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: taking the spotlight. So I told her how easy it was,

1108
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: since I always liked sharing recipes. She makes a point

1109
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: to make the same exact bread and give a loaf

1110
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: to her mother in law, which she would never do

1111
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 4: when the sister isn't in town, and pretended like she

1112
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: invented the recipe herself and made it sound like her

1113
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: secret recipe. And it's so hard to make. I know

1114
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: my bread, and I know the exact site that recipe

1115
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: came from. Look at you, gop you bread maker. You're

1116
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: like I know bread, trust me, I know the yeast. Then,

1117
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: as I'm helping to clean up after everyone saw me

1118
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: loading the dishwasher, she audibly goes, oh, this is arranged

1119
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: completely wrong. Let me just fix it for you, dear.

1120
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: I just don't respond, and my husband suggested we just

1121
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: sit down. As you could see at this point, I

1122
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 4: was getting annoyed. I walk into the kitchen later to

1123
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: get a drink and see that the dishwasher is loaded

1124
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: the exact way I loaded it, and she's struggling to

1125
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: turn it on because she's never used it before. She

1126
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: then proceeds to clean the entire kitchen while we played monopoly,

1127
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: since she claimed cleaning was more fun, which.

1128
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: Is honestly fair.

1129
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes, haven't I see you?

1130
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: Sometimes people just hate monopoly or she's just bad at it.

1131
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: Those are sometimes the same thing. Yeah. Fair.

1132
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: The best part is she made a point to clean

1133
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: where the sister could see her clean. Not the normal

1134
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: parts of the kitchen like the counters. No, she literally

1135
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: cleaned the wall because of how the kitchen is set

1136
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: up where the sister was sitting. I felt bad for

1137
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 4: my mother in law since there was still a bunch

1138
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: of gross food in the sink that wouldn't wash down

1139
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 4: and the counters were soaked. Note I've never seen her

1140
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: do anything at my mother in law's house before, and

1141
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: depending on the VID regulations, we do up to a

1142
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: couple dinners every month together, usually since we all live

1143
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: in the same town. There's so much more to the dinner.

1144
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: I just highlighted some of the unnecessary snark directed at

1145
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 4: me specifically. It continued with her fibbing about certain things

1146
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: that happened, saying we were invited to things we weren't,

1147
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 4: claiming she owns a business, but in reality her husband

1148
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: does all the actual work but the business. While she

1149
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: claims to be an influencer, maybe I'm wrong with the

1150
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: new Instagram algorithm, but my husband showed me her account.

1151
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 4: She has ninety thousand followers and doesn't get more than

1152
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: fifty likes on a photo or more than a few

1153
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: hundred views on a video, usually using the maxi amount

1154
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: of hashtags, so that doesn't add up their bots bot.

1155
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: I guarantee you flants she pays for that. I am

1156
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: real bad she doesn't do it well. Now my husband's

1157
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: sister is acting weird towards us, and I can't help

1158
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 4: but think the sister in law was gossiping about me

1159
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: behind my back. It seems as soon as we got engaged,

1160
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: her attitude towards my husband and I completely shifted and

1161
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 4: she started to actively dislike us. She was the only

1162
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: sister in law in the family, so that could be

1163
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: why she's being so mean towards my husband and I.

1164
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 4: Also a funny tidbit is they built a new house

1165
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 4: and designed the kitchen almost identical to how my husband

1166
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: designed and built our kitchen, but yet claimed it was

1167
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: her design. Ours was built before they designed theirs. How

1168
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: do I deal with this? My husband's sister in law

1169
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: isn't going away, and I just want to be able

1170
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: to attend dinners and events if we even get invited

1171
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: without me getting in a bad mood every time. And

1172
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: if you want to be in a good mood every time,

1173
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

1174
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: Just go to spot of Apple Podcasts or your favorite

1175
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: podcast app and search Okay stories and we have a

1176
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 4: bit more left. I think what I said earlier is

1177
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: you gotta take what's out and like, you gotta talk

1178
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 4: to them. I don't even know I would talk to

1179
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 4: them to the law. Yeah you think just cut off.

1180
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 5: No, no, you become unbotherable.

1181
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: No, you gotta have a conversation before it is because

1182
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: this is like everyone's just saying silent, no one's talking here.

1183
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: You gotta be like, hey, I feel like the kitchen thing.

1184
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 4: That's one thing. Whatever. Well if you if you let act,

1185
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, you know, if he wants to just become

1186
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: you whatever.

1187
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 5: But if you actually want someone to have the conversation,

1188
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: it can't be Op. It's gonna have to be the brother.

1189
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 5: She's not gonna listen to. No, Op, it has to

1190
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: be someone who she's related to. It's gonna have to

1191
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 5: be her husband. Yeah, someone needs to Honestly, the question

1192
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 5: at the end there is how do I go to

1193
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 5: these events without having a bad time. You have to

1194
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: treat this woman like a child in your head, Like

1195
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: it has to be like not someone you're competing with,

1196
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 5: not someone who's your equal. It's someone who is like

1197
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 5: a little seven year old, and you just need to

1198
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 5: like not take her seriously.

1199
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 4: I think that's one case. And then if she says anything,

1200
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: don't do it. If she says, of course, no, I'll

1201
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: do the dishes for you, honey, no, don't do it,

1202
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, I'm not done. I got it,

1203
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: I got it. I'm just saying it's an ego thing.

1204
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: I think she's just jealous. She wants to be you

1205
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: or wants what you have, But just do your own thing.

1206
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: My husband suggested I just be as passive aggressive as

1207
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: she is back to her if I wanted to, But

1208
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: it's just not my personality and I'd rather unlive her

1209
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: with kindness, you know, that kind of thing. But dang it,

1210
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 4: it's so hard to ignore the things she says an does.

1211
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: If anyone's dealt with something similar, any advice would be appreciated.

1212
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: I have a feeling it's not going to get better,

1213
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: and it's just going to get much worse once we

1214
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: start having kids and get more integrated into the family.

1215
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: My husband has offered to talk to his mom about this,

1216
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: good which I really appreciate, as the issue started after

1217
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: we got engaged. I don't think it will really amount

1218
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: to anything, but I do appreciate him standing up for us,

1219
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: mostly me, and doesn't think I'm being insane about what's happening.

1220
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: Other than that, how can I actively not hate being

1221
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: around her? And that's the end of that story.

1222
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: Hey, John Ogi host here, we're gonna get back to

1223
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,800
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1224
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1225
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: My mother in law's behavior is unbearable. I want to

1226
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: remove her from our lives.

1227
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. Removed the bear.

1228
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, my husband and I got engaged and

1229
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: planned our wedding five months later. We wanted to get

1230
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 2: married fast because he was married before and has three

1231
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: children from his previous marriage. By the way, this comes

1232
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,000
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1233
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,320
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1234
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: Separate It so to be honest, he's not getting any younger.

1235
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: I wanted a baby as soon as we got married.

1236
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: This might be TMI, but it is important. Later, my

1237
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 2: husband had a vasectomy after his third child was born.

1238
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: We saved up money to have it reversed and plan

1239
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: for it to be done after the wedding so we

1240
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: could try for a baby.

1241
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: The good old snip, snap, stipsnap.

1242
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: Unsniped, the snap. Okay, back to the wedding. My husband's

1243
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: mother came to visit for the wedding. She lives in

1244
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: a so this was the first time I had ever

1245
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: met her. The entire time she was here, she kept

1246
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: calling me my husband's exes name on my wedding day.

1247
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: Bye bye bye.

1248
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: That's why you should meet the first.

1249
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: I told my husband he needed to say something because

1250
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: it was getting ridiculous. He finally did, and she, of

1251
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: course started crying and making a big deal about it.

1252
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: I get that sometimes people misspeak and stuff, but this

1253
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: was a daily thing. My husband and I have been

1254
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: dating for years, and he and his accident separated for years.

1255
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: It is not like it was new twenty twenty two.

1256
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: My husband had the reversal early on in the year,

1257
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: so we were trying for a baby. We made a

1258
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: trip to visit my husband's family. They all live in

1259
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: the same state as.

1260
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Mother in law. We stayed with mother in law. Big mistake.

1261
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, being there, she again called me by my husband's

1262
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: exes name.

1263
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: Uh oh.

1264
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: Not only that, but I saw she had pictures of

1265
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: my husband with his ex wife in frame, pictures on

1266
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: the wall. I have sent her plenty of pictures of

1267
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: me and my husband, including wedding pictures, but none of

1268
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: those were anywhere to be seen. After we left, we

1269
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: were on our way back home, mother in law called

1270
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: my husband, claiming she was now missing stuff from her

1271
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: house and had the nerve to accuse the kids of

1272
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: stealing her stuff. She brought us up for months, saying,

1273
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: I know your kids took this and that, which I

1274
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: know for a fact they did not, because I was

1275
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: the one who unpacked their suitcases when we got home.

1276
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: Shortly after that, I found out I was pregnant, and

1277
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: we made the mistake. Stop making all these mistakes. Man

1278
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: of telling mother in law before I told my parents, Oh,

1279
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: that's a rookie mistake. Honestly, why would.

1280
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: You tell the one person? Yeah, that is like not

1281
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: necessarily bullying you but it's definitely not not with you

1282
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: on things.

1283
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: And what did she do?

1284
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: She posted it on Facebook, tagging both mine and my

1285
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: husband's names.

1286
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

1287
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: I was beyond mad and made her remove the post immediately,

1288
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: telling her I was not ready for it to be

1289
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: on Facebook. Twenty twenty three, sometime in the winter before

1290
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: I had my baby, mother in law randomly contacts my

1291
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: husband and says.

1292
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: Didn't you have a vosectomy? How is it possible for

1293
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: your wife to be pregnant with their child? Girl? Is

1294
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: she implying something?

1295
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: Is she not using her brain and then using her

1296
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: mouth to imply something?

1297
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: Also, that's none of your concerns, asking that that's crazy.

1298
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1299
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: This was a long conversation between them, with her pretty

1300
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: much trying to convince my husband I cheated on him.

1301
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: In the springtime, my husband's grandmother unfortunately passed away. I

1302
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: was unable to fly down for the funeral because I

1303
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: was eight months pregnant, but my husband went down. The

1304
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: grandmother was mother in law's mother. When they were still

1305
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: in the hospital, maybe an hour after she passed, mother

1306
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: in law started talking about the will and asked who

1307
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: was going to help her clean out her grandmother's house.

1308
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: The next morning, she had already obtained the will and

1309
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: was at the house taking an inventory, contacting family members,

1310
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: claiming they stole things and saying she needed anything that

1311
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: the grandmother had ever given them back. At the funeral,

1312
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: literally at the cemetery, she was chasing family members down,

1313
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: demanding dumb things like silverware sets back that she knew

1314
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: they stole from grandmother. This whole thing could be a

1315
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: story on its own, but moving on. In the summer,

1316
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: I had my baby. My husband again made the mistake

1317
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: of telling his mom the baby was born. And what

1318
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: is the first thing she does?

1319
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: That's right?

1320
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: She posted it on Facebook, even after my husband told

1321
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: her not to. I do not understand why she has

1322
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: to share all of my news on Facebook.

1323
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: I don't understand you guys telling her as like the

1324
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: first person.

1325
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: If you her last, I'm gonna be less sympathetic next time.

1326
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: If you tell me, oh, we made a mistake of

1327
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: telling her.

1328
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: See if I see another mistake that we told her

1329
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: to be less sympathetic. We both are.

1330
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: Cause you've passed three times.

1331
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: I get it. You're excited. Yeah, And the first thought is,

1332
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: let's tell the one person that is causing so much drama.

1333
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: But I think from now on, hopefully you would have realized, oh,

1334
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: if we tell her something, she's going to post on Facebook.

1335
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: So let's wait until we're ready for this to be

1336
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: posted on Facebook.

1337
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 4: Or tell everybody else and tell her.

1338
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: Last literally twenty twenty four, I found out she was

1339
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: trying to sue my husband's aunt and her sister over

1340
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: something dumb with the grandmother's house. Anyhow, she's full of

1341
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: drama and always has something bad to say about everyone,

1342
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: and I'm just done dealing with her.

1343
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: And there are some comments.

1344
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: Comment one says, you don't mention and the thing about

1345
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: how your husband has handled her bs in the past,

1346
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: so you can try to cut her out. But if

1347
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: your husband isn't also going to or is the type

1348
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: that always eventually caves to her when she whinds, all

1349
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: that's going to happen is you think you're done with her,

1350
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: but she keeps on disrupting your life.

1351
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: Hope, he replied.

1352
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: I guess I should have added my husband already has

1353
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: almost zero contact with her. She reaches out to me

1354
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: randomly for information because my husband doesn't answer her when

1355
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: she calls because she's always trying to start drama I

1356
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: forgot to mention another huge thing she did, so I

1357
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: need to update the post reply. So follow your husband's

1358
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: lead and don't answer her. Thank you block her if

1359
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: you want, not your circus, not your monkeys. Hey, you

1360
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: updates some things I forgot to add. First off, when

1361
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: she called me the ex's name, it was always conveniently

1362
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: when my husband was not around, because she's doing it

1363
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: on purpose, So he did not correct her because he

1364
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: did not know until I said something. As soon as

1365
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: I said something, he spoke to her. My husband does

1366
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: not speak to her if she calls. He ignores her

1367
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: calls because it always is to start drama. No, her

1368
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: issue is not just with me, but I get tired

1369
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: of the drama. She would call just to make up

1370
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: stuff about her sisters and try to drag my husband

1371
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: into her drama. He would tell her he doesn't care

1372
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: and hang up. So now she tries to reach out

1373
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: to me randomly, but it's usually something stupid like I

1374
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: mail the kid's Christmas gifts two years later and I'm

1375
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: still waiting on those. And a huge thing I forgot

1376
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: to add sometime in twenty twenty two, after we visited

1377
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: them her youngest daughter, she has seven kids. Finally decided

1378
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: to take a DNA test because there has always been

1379
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: a thought that she was not the child of let's

1380
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: call him Ken, who is my husband's stepdad. And guess

1381
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: what she was right? Everyone suspected that her real dad

1382
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: was the neighbor. Ooh, yi, let's call him Jim. I

1383
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: should add she's almost thirty. She's asked her mom before

1384
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: if she had a different dad, and mother in law

1385
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: always said that was crazy and why would she ever

1386
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: think that. So she did the DNA test and found

1387
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: out that she is Jim's daughter, not Ken's. Yikes, yeah,

1388
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: that's you're thirty years old than you're finding out like, oh,

1389
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: the dad that I thought was my dad the whole

1390
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: time is not my dad, and it's my neighbor.

1391
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, at the end of the day,

1392
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: he's still your dad. Still, he took the figure.

1393
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: When she confronted mother in law with the proof, mother

1394
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: in law spent two hours. The whole thing was recorded,

1395
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: lying and saying Ken and I weren't even together then,

1396
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: which they were married when she got pregnant.

1397
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: Dude, are you gonna lie about this?

1398
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 4: It's crazy?

1399
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: Then it was are you sure I want to do

1400
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: a DNA test of my own, and then well I

1401
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: was ooh. Then Ken knew about it. It was a

1402
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: whole thing, and for some reason she blamed my husband

1403
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: for the reason his sister did a DNA test in

1404
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: the first place.

1405
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: We had nothing to do with that. But you can have.

1406
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: Everything to do with us if you listen to full

1407
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: episodes with stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,

1408
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Apple podcast, or iHeartRadio and.

1409
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: Search book his story time.

1410
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this. Honestly,

1411
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: I think you need to follow your husband's lead and

1412
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: go no contact.

1413
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: Very easy. Why do you even have contact if he doesn't.

1414
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: She's like King Midas but like everything rama.

1415
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything she touches, he inst drama.

1416
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very easy. You have no reason to be

1417
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: in contact with her. She's very rude to you, and

1418
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: it seems like everybody else.

1419
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one likes her.

1420
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: I would still say, like, limit contact if your husband

1421
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 2: had contact, but your husband doesn't.

1422
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: God, I mean, your husband's like, no, I don't want

1423
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: to deal with her, so just don't, which is very

1424
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: oddic He would have given the advice of she messaged you,

1425
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 4: why are you talking to her?

1426
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like he would be like, yeah, don't

1427
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: talk to.

1428
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 4: Her, don't talk to her, but there's a little bit left.

1429
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: Also, another reason I want to go no contact is

1430
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: because she's bringing up crazy stuff in front of the

1431
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: kids all the time, like her issues with her sisters.

1432
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: She has no filter. I try to tell her the

1433
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: kids do not care about this. Can we talk about

1434
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: something else? But it always comes back to it, and

1435
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: she will talk badly about everyone that isn't in the

1436
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: house at the moment. The kids think she is ridiculous.

1437
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: She also texted my husband like six months after we

1438
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: left her house to say that the kids said stuff

1439
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: to her that I know was a complete lie. And

1440
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: that also makes me not want to allow the kids

1441
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: around her.

1442
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: Then don't. She accuses them.

1443
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: Of stealing and then makes up lies about them, almost

1444
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: like she's hoping we will get them in trouble or something,

1445
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: and comments to finish this story off, comment one, how

1446
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: did she get.

1447
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: The will so fast? She must have had it at

1448
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 3: her house the whole time. And that's the grandmother's will,

1449
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 3: right what they're talking about.

1450
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the grandmother that passed away.

1451
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: Just don't ever go and see her and don't talk

1452
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: to her, tell your husband not to tell her anything

1453
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: about you or the baby.

1454
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: She sounds like she lives for the drama. Reply.

1455
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I have a copy of my parents' will because I

1456
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: was named the estate representative, so after they were both gone,

1457
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: I only had to grab my copy to start all

1458
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: the legal crap that goes with being the representative. I imagine

1459
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: mother in law had a copy or her mother told

1460
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: her what was in it. She sounds like a first

1461
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: class drama queen, and I'm glad I don't have to

1462
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: deal with her, Opie says, I honestly don't know, but

1463
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: grandma did not want mother in law to have anything

1464
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: to do with the will, oh no, but somehow she

1465
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: ended up getting everything. The family has videos of Grandma

1466
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: saying she needed to get mother in law off the

1467
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: will and then nothing should go with her.

1468
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: And that should that should follow that. Shoot.

1469
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they have videos of her, that should absolutely

1470
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: be enough.

1471
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: If they have videos, I don't know how it worked.

1472
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: I think the grandmother needed to sign something.

1473
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: She did, but I think that you can also have

1474
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: a video testament. Those are It depends on what what preceded.

1475
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: Yes, but those are yeah? Those yeah? Interesting, very interesting?

1476
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, It also was upsetting that she got everything, including

1477
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: the house, but did not spend a dime on the

1478
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: funeral and headstone, and all the grandkids.

1479
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: Chipped in to cover the costs.

1480
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: Shocked knocking.

1481
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: Well, she only cares about herself.

1482
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: And she just likes to make everyone else feel bad.

1483
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: That is the end of that story.

1484
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: But don't just go no contact at this Yeah, this

1485
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: is a very low contact.

1486
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, at this point, it seems like nothing's

1487
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 4: going to change her attitude, her mindset, even when she's

1488
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: proven wrong. Yeah, she will flip it and put it

1489
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: onto somebody else. There's no reason to just put up

1490
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 4: with that mindset, that energy. It's all negative, exhausting, very exhausting,

1491
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 4: and if you go even towards it, she's gonna make

1492
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: it all dramatic.

1493
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story.