1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: This episode includes subject matter, including graphic depictions of drug 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: use and sexual encounters, which may not be suitable for everyone. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: My mindset was let me go out, have some drinks, 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: do some blow and get late in that order. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: We were all doing a lot of cocaine. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Everybody was from iHeartRadio and Doghouse Pictures. This is shock incarceration. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Keating. As Mark continued to party hard week 9 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: after week, he met new friends at the Naughty Monkey. 10 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: The first time I met Billy, we were playing pool 11 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: and just like anything a small bar, you see the 12 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: same people over and over. You start you have a 13 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: conversation with them, Hey, what's your name, what do you 14 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: do for a living? And we just hit it off. 15 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: We did same age, same interests. We exchanged numbers, and 16 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, what are you doing tomorrow? And 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: we just became really good friends. I was a single 18 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: guy at the time. He was too. He was divorced 19 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: with two kids, and he lived with his parents, so 20 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: he always had a babysitter so he could go out 21 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: a lot. There was this one girl that he had 22 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: brought back and she was a total train wreck. But 23 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: I was on a third floor my condo, and you 24 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: had sliders going out to a little balcony, and she 25 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: opened the sliders, she pulled down her pants and just 26 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: peed all over my deck, like right in front of 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: ten people. I mean, these are the kind of morons 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: hanging out with you know, seriously, what the fuck are 29 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: you doing. We had a lot of fun together, but 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: a lot of stupidity together too. 31 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: And another new member of the crew was Aimon. 32 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: Well. 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: First time I met Amon, I was introduced to him 34 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: by Todd actually down at the same bar that was 35 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: the spot where everybody met. 36 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: And he was trash. 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: He really was. This a little short, stocky kid thought 38 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: he was better than everybody. His parents owned a restaurant 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: a couple of towns over. But I don't even think 40 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: they wanted him involved. You know, he was a troublemaker. 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: I didn't hang out with him that much at all. 42 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: He was a quick pop in, whether he was dropping 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: something off for somebody else because he was selling it 44 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: as well, or if he was looking for something. It 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: was a text or a phone call to me, Hey 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: are you at the bar. I'm going to swing down 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: in the parking lot. You know, I'll meet you out 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: front in twenty minutes type thing. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Mark partied his troubles away with Rob Todd, Amon, Billy, 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: and Cathy, since wandering far from the life he had 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: with Liz, and as he struggled to avoid hitting rock bottom, 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: she dealt with her own healing after the divorce and 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: was clueless to his debauchery. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: I had no idea. 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: I had no idea. 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know any of the people that he hung 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: out with. 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 6: I was, you know, we're near And. 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: At that point, I was probably still angry that he 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: didn't fight for us and stick up and he chose basically, 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 5: he chose his brother's life over ours. And I mean 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: I had some resentment and I didn't take it out 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: on him, but I probably was like, you got yourself 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: into this mess. I don't know what you're going to do. 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: But I was shocked. 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: And when Mark got together with his childhood friends like Jason, 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: he didn't divulge any details about his other life. 68 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 6: I didn't know that that's what he was up to. 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 6: There was some partying going on that I was aware of, 70 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 6: but as far as what Mark was doing on the 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 6: side or with other individuals that we didn't know, it. 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Wasn't a conversation about that. 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: It was more just hanging out, reminiscing having a good time. 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Burden with addiction, debt, and guilt, Mark got deeper and 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: deeper into selling cocaine. 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: As a dealer, you want to protect yourself at all times, 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: and you don't know. 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: Who you're dealing with. If you don't know who they are. 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: There, it all depends on what state of mind I 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: was in. If it was in the beginning of the 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: night and I had just had a beer or two, 82 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: and if somebody that I knew said, Hey, this guy 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: over here, you know he's looking to get something from you, 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I would size him up. Normally, if somebody had asked 85 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: me that, I would say, you know what, you get 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: the money here? 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: What do they want? 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: You do it? 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: You handle it, Just give me the money back. So 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: on a first time visit, I was a little skeptical 91 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: as that I progressed. 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: My decision changed. 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: Fast forward five hours later and I was lit and 94 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: I was wired up, I would say, yep, what do 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: you want? That was the gray line. I apologize for 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: smiling for those who can't see me smiling, because there 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: was absolutely no way did I ever think that that 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: would be my career. As far as selling drugs, no way, 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: because I know you're gonna get caught. It's a vicious cycle. 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: It's a cycle that doesn't end until you, unfortunately get 101 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: to the bottom. Everybody hits rock bottom. 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: By twenty eleven, cocaine consumption in the United States surpassed 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: all countries, and America's relationship with cocaine was complex. Dealers 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: came in all shapes and sizes, from the cartel leader 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: to the small suburban candy man. And what better place 106 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: for Mark Lombardo to ply his wares than a bar 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: near his condo. 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: The walk from my house to the Naughty Monkey was 109 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: five hundred yards. 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: The bar outdated. It was very dark, very dark. 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: The bar was always full, whether it was women, businessmen 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: after work, construction guys. It's all walks of life. There 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: was a pool table with a Budweiser light. It looks 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: like it's been there for forty years, outdated, couple sick 115 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: of burns on it. You could probably find more people 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: hanging out in the bathrooms than up in the front. 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: If you didn't know it was a coke bar, you 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: will probably from out of town. Every regular that went 119 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 2: in there at one point was in that bathroom before 120 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: the end of the night, and it wasn't to take 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: a piss or a shit. My first time selling was 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: definitely a nervous time. If you don't feel that way, 123 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: something's wrong with you, something seriously wrong with you. You 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: have to know. If you get caught, you're in serious 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: fucking trouble. Regardless of the amount. It's against the law. 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: You have to know that. And I did know that. 127 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Every time I sold it, I said, why are you 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: doing this? 129 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: What are you doing? I questioned myself every fucking time, 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: But I still did it. 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be the center of attention, but 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: I did want people to know that if you want something, 133 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: I got it. 134 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: You know, come to me, don't go to anybody else. 135 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: Mark learned the ins and outs of selling drugs quickly 136 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and realized that the fast cast was just as addictive 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: as the cocaine. 138 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: It was extremely easy to sell. I learned very quickly 139 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: who was doing it. I knew exactly who mike clientele 140 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: was going to be. Most of these people that I 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: was hanging out with who were partying, they were getting 142 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: it from multiple different sources. I said, let me buy 143 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: the larger amount and I'll sell to all of them. 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: It was very simple. Ultimately, what I did was when 145 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: I continued to buy, I was buying an ounce at 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: a time. My customers were all walks of life. There 147 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: was a bouncer at one of the bars in town. 148 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: I had a local painter. I had a guy on 149 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: Wall Street. I had a stripper. I had a couple 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: waitresses at the diner. They'd get off at one two 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and they'd come down and get 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: a bag or two. I had all different ages, from 153 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three up to probably fifty. 154 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Five, with customers from all walks of life. Mark met 155 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: a swath of people who knew him only as the 156 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: man with the blow. 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: It was easy to meet women, but not the best 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: level of women. There was some beautiful women, there were 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: some nice women that went in there, but for the 160 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: most part, a lot of them were trashy, trashy. I'm 161 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: not a player by any means. Obviously, having the YEO 162 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: in my favor worked in my favor. Okay, I'm not 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: fucking GQ celebrity. 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Mini guys and bellas their tails of sex, drugs and 165 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: rock and roll. But in the case of Mark Lombardo, 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: his friend Rob was right there to witness the debauchery. 167 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: As far as the coke and stuff, you can lay 168 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: down a naked woman right here and do lines off 169 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: of any part of a body. 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: We had a couple of nice, really looking women, we'd 171 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: get them naked, lay them down, fucking cover them with 172 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: coke in certain areas, and have some fun. Sniff away, 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: leck away, have a shit ton of fun. Definitely easy. 174 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Hey do you want to go and do a line 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: of coke off my cock? I'll do one off your pushy. 176 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: Let's have some fun. I live right up the hill. 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: It happened. It happened a lot. 178 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: I think sex and drugs with the right people go 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: hand in hand. It enhances it depending on the mood. 180 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: My mindset was, let me go out, we have some drinks, 181 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: do some blow, and get laid in that order. I 182 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: already had the beers, I've been doing coke. What's next, 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: I gotta get laid. I pretty much got laid almost 184 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: every night. I have to admit to walk into a 185 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: room where where maybe there was a couple of good 186 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: looking women that I knew did blow and they thought, 187 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: oh shit, Mark's here. Maybe that's an opportunity for me 188 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: to give her a little sum and get a little 189 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: sum myself. 190 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,239 Speaker 1: Robin Todd realized Mark was out of control and decided 191 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: to teach him a lesson. 192 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: So one time, I said, what did you do the 193 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: last night I met this girl? I to go home? 194 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: I said, Mark, did you use a condom? He goes, No, 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: I didn't use a condom, I said, Mark, I told 196 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: you something's going to happen. I said, I told you, 197 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: Mark that you got to wear a condom. So I 198 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: walked it down on my calendar, and nine months later 199 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: I went to the dollar store and I bought it's 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: a girl balloons and we went to his condo and 201 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: I tied him to his door. And you can see 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 4: the balloons from the parking lot. So here we are, 203 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: we're in my backyard, would drinking and we're waiting for Walker. 204 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: Came home from work. 205 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: I went up and I saw these balloons on my 206 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: door and read the note, and I thought she was inside. 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: I completely lost my breath. I could not speak. I 208 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: didn't know nine months I could rattle off forty women. 209 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: I ran down those stairs into the parking lot and 210 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: I immediately called him, what do I do. I called 211 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: Rob the first thing. That's somebody's whatever you do? You 212 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: call Rob, you're in trouble, you call Rob? 213 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 4: Hello, Rob, Rob? I can't Rob. What's the matter? You 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: get an accident? Are you okay? 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: Are you home yet? 216 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: He's a rob Rob. It's a girl. What's a girl? 217 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: You hit a girl? 218 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: And I was really playing it up okay, And he says, 219 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: there's balloons, balloons? What balloons? Mork. 220 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: I literally thought I was having a heart attack. I 221 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: was running pacing. You don't understand, man, there's fucking balloons. 222 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: It's a girl. 223 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: And Todd goes, He's gonna have a fucking heart attack. 224 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 4: Stop it. I put him on mute. I said, he's 225 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: fucking girl with it without condoms. He needs a lesson, 226 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: and I'm giving him a lesson today. Finally he was 227 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: going to have a heart attack. He was walking up 228 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: down the parking lot, puffing and puffing, and I actually 229 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: thought he was I said Mark, he was, it was you? 230 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: I go, yes, it was me, And then he came 231 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: over and we had fun that day. 232 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: As far as the women in my life, I never 233 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: wanted a brag. I think I did very well for myself. 234 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: As far as the girlfriends and wives that I've had, 235 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: I always respected them and I absolutely treated them with 236 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: nothing but respecting class. The women on blow is a 237 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: totally different mindset. 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: So we had I have a big backyard party. If 239 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: you've seen it, you'd fall in love with it. And Todd, 240 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: the guy with the balloons, and Mark we're all friends. 241 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: And there was a few guys with that girl. And 242 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: so one time at the party, you just say, hey, 243 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: you want to fucking she'd fuck? So I said, can 244 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: I film this? Can I watch? 245 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 246 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: Come on, So we go up with his nice trees 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 4: and a nice lawn. I got my cell phone out, 248 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: and she gets down the ground. She takes the clothes 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: off and walks over and then he looks back like 250 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: this and he sees me. He goes, rather, I can't 251 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: do it. I can't do it. I said, what's the matter, Mark, 252 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: you're a professional, and he goes, you got to hide 253 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 4: or something. You gotta hide. I so just but then 254 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: I'm not here. So I picked up a twig and 255 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: I had it like this, and I'm filming, and fifteen 256 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: twenty seconds later and Mark does one of these and 257 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: sees me with the twig and he loses his shit man, 258 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: so Mark. He was the real deal womanizer. That's why 259 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: I call him the Lumbardo four hundred. 260 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: There was one exception to most of the women Mark 261 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: hooked up with at the bar. That was Kathy. 262 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: She had been coming around as she knew Todd partied 263 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: as well. She wanted to get out and let loose 264 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: him get high. We started hooking up, pulling around, and 265 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: her and I hung out all the time. 266 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: If you saw her, wouldn't want to hook up with 267 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: anybody either. She was great. She fulfilled all the needs. 268 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Kathy juggled being a single mom one week and a 269 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: party girl the next. And even though she and Mark 270 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time together, they weren't exclusive with 271 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: each other. 272 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: She had a very good, solid, cordial relationship. The kids 273 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: would rotate one week with her, one week with him, 274 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: and that week that they weren't with her, she would 275 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: loose cannon. She was out and about. She had her kids. 276 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: She would say, Hey, I have the kids this week. 277 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: I'll give you a call next weekend. We would talk 278 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: throughout the week just to say hello, but I wouldn't 279 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: see her and hang out with her. I definitely had 280 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: some trust with Kathy. I had an attraction to her, 281 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: and when you're drinking and doing drugs, sex usually goes 282 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: with it. Kathy was my partner when it came to that, 283 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: but she was still screwing around with other people. I 284 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: was not dating her. I wasn't one on one with her. 285 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: But when we were together, we knew it was us. 286 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you really call that loyalty. Maybe 287 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: it's not one hundred percent loyalty, but I did feel 288 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: comfortable when I was around her. She'd get a call 289 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: from an old guy and she'd go out with them, 290 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: and it pissed me off a little bit. But again, 291 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: we were not together together. You know, I understood she 292 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: wants to go out and mess around. I'd but never loyal, 293 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: never loyal to her. And again, it wasn't We weren't 294 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: one hundred an item. We weren't dating, we weren't this, 295 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: We weren't that. We just knew that when we hung out, 296 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: it was ultimately we were gonna have sex or we 297 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: were gonna fool around. She screwed around with other people too, 298 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, so it goes both ways. 299 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Mark and Kathy love to party hard together, but there 300 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: was one thing that concerned him. 301 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: Kathy, she loved pills. 302 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: She was ecstasy and percocets and Viking ins. Her mood 303 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: was up and down all over the place, and I 304 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: would don't it, don't fuck, don't don't mess with those pills. 305 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: Don't mess with those pills. 306 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Mark's business was up and running. He had regulars he 307 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: could count on. Neither Grammar and eight ball. Mark Lombardo 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: was the man. He had new friends and customers streaming 309 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: in and out of his life. 310 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: I met Jay for the first time, and I remember 311 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: very well. 312 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: We were at the bar. 313 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: We're doing our Thursday routine and drinking some beers and 314 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: tooting a little up the nose, and he had Yankee 315 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: had on. He was by himself. He came over and 316 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: he says, what's that game you guys are playing there? 317 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: He said, Oh, it's a game we call three ball. 318 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: He's like, you mind if I play? 319 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: Sure? 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: No problem with your name? 321 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: Jay? O. 322 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: Hey, how are you Mark? Nice to meet you. 323 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: All right, guys, Jay's gonna play a couple of rounds 324 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: with us. He introduced them to Greg and Billy and 325 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: all the other assholes, and we had a great night. 326 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Nothing was brought up about drugs. Nothing was brought up 327 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: about coke or anything. And we continued to play probably 328 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: three four hours, and he's like, hey, guys, it was. 329 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: Great to meet you. 330 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: You do this every week. I'll be back next Thursday. 331 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: If that's school, are you guys going to be in 332 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: no problem? 333 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Were here every Thursday. 334 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Through the world of cocaine, Mark had friends in the 335 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: life who gave him access the places in power. Outside 336 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: of his crew. 337 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: A friend of mine and I would frequent a strip 338 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: club down in Jersey doing coke and hanging out with strippers. 339 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to say his name. He has some 340 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: connections with some organized crime families in Jersey. He and 341 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: I were at this strip club. You couldn't smoke in 342 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: bars anymore, he says to the bartender, give me an ashtray. 343 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: She gives him an ashtray. I said, we can smoke 344 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: in here? Is he can do whatever the fuck you 345 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: want to do in here. So we're sitting there smoking 346 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: and there was two guys directly across from us, and 347 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: you could almost read their lips like, hey, look at 348 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: those guys, you know, pointing to us, they can smoke. 349 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: They pull out a cigarette and light it up. This bouncer. 350 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: He would look like a linebacker for the giants. He 351 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: grabbed them and threw them the fuck out of it, 352 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: like you wouldn't believe the guy is. 353 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: He says, let's go upstairs. So we went upstairs. 354 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: It was a little private, you know, where you would 355 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: go to do a lap dance type kind of room, 356 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: and it was just dump the coke and he would 357 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: lean over the ledge. Hey, come on up, come on up, 358 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: and those girls, four or five girls come up. One 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: sits on your lap, one sits on his lab ones 360 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: rubbing your back, tits in your face, you know. 361 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: And you just did. 362 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: Lines all night, two, three, four o'clock in the morning, 363 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: five o'clock. Sometimes we had some fun down there. We 364 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: had a lot of fun. The ride home was tough. 365 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: Mark still had his nine to five, but while his 366 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: confidence grew as a dealer, the endless nights of partying 367 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: began to clout his judgment. 368 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: I did know the circle that I was dealing with, 369 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: but quickly there was people being introduced to that circle 370 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: that I didn't know. That I did sell to vouching 371 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: for somebody, Especially when you're going into a larger quantity, 372 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: there's a. 373 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Lot of things you want to watch. 374 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: You don't want too many people not knowing it's you, 375 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: but actually doing the transaction and seeing it and being 376 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: a part of it, keep me out of it. 377 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: But I didn't do that. 378 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: I just say, yeah, come on in, come on in, 379 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: come on in, come on in. Anybody who's next serving 380 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: number twenty two? 381 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: Who's up? 382 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 383 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: After Flocko got busted, I still needed an avenue to 384 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: find below, and ultimately I did reach out to my 385 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: guy that I continued to buy from is involved with 386 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: a family, so I used him for that connection moving forward, 387 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: you pick and choose your battles, right, and I chose 388 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: to get it from people who you don't want to 389 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: fuck around with. Then one day, Jay he approached me, 390 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: probably the fourth maybe fifth time that he came in. 391 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: He pulled me aside and he says, uh, hey, do 392 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: you know where I can get some coke around here? 393 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: Just like that, very simple, Do you know where I 394 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: can get some coke around here? I'm like, yeah, why 395 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: don't you asked me a couple of weeks ago? The 396 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: fuck you didn't know that we're all doing this shit? 397 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: You couldn't tell? It was very simple. He asked me. 398 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: I said yes, and he said I don't need it tonight, 399 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: but maybe you can get me like an ounce. 400 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: There's no problem. 401 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: I'll take care for you. 402 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: He said, next week, maybe i'll give you a call. Sure, 403 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: here's my number. And that next week called me and said, hey, 404 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm running down to the bar. 405 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: Where do you live. I'll stop by your place. We'll 406 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: just have a beer whatever. I'm like, yeah, sure, no problem. 407 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: This guy actually came my house. 408 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: We had a beer, you know, on my kitchen table, 409 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, if you want to head down, yeah, sure, 410 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: let's head down. So we're hanging out and he's like, well, 411 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: next week I want to I'd like to get an 412 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: ounce from it. And I'm like, oh an ounce, okay, yeah, 413 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: no problem, we could do that. And he's like, I'll 414 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: give you a call. He said something like that, we 415 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: could do it Tuesday or Wednesday. Said yeah, give me 416 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: a call. I'll meet you somewhere. 417 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Mark's world was endless nights of booze, blow and women. 418 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: As he started to make some real money, the laws 419 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: of gravity began to take hold. 420 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: The ultimate goal was to somehow get myself out of 421 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: this hole that my brother put me on these loans. 422 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: That was the ultimate goal. I think I crossed the 423 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: line where I was just having too much fun and 424 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: wasn't so much about getting to that ultimate goal. It 425 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: was like, if I get there, I get there, but 426 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: let's have fun while doing it. Meanwhile, I could have 427 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: died in a heart attack. I was still partying. There 428 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: was no sleep. Weekend were out of control. They really were. 429 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: Starting on a Saturday noontime, you could go sit outside, 430 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: you have a couple of beers, through a few bumps 431 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: in the bathroom. Keep you going. You're flying high. And 432 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: I would ride it until Sunday night before I went 433 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: to sleep. You didn't go to sleep on a Saturday. 434 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: We stayed up all night and just kept going and 435 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: going and going, or until you ran out of coke. 436 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom one day and I was 437 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: sitting on the toilet and I really thought I was 438 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: having a heart attack. I took a cold shower. I 439 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: stood in the shower. I remember, I put my hands 440 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: on the walls and I just let the water hit 441 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: the back of my neck. I was sweating like a pig. 442 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: I was burnt up. 443 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: Really truly thought I was having a heart attack. 444 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: They did I got really scared, and I remember laying 445 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: in bed just trying to go to sleep. You're so wired, 446 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: you can't just close your eyes and you're beating yourself up. 447 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: Go to sleep, Go to sleep, Just try to go 448 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: to sleep. Because what I wanted to do was not 449 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: worry about it anymore and sleep it off and wake up. 450 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: But then there was a part of me saying, holy shit, 451 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: am I going to wake up? Am I going to 452 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: wake up? Because it was that bad, the same bottom, 453 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: a vicious cycle, over and over. It was that tug 454 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: of war, the angel and devil on the shoulder. And 455 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't just on Sunday, on a Wednesday and Thursday. 456 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: I would say to myself, stay the fuck home, stay home, 457 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: you gotta get up early, you gotta gotta work, and 458 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: it would never win. That one side always won, That 459 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: one side always won. It was like they had extra 460 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: hands over there. Anybody that gets involved in that, it's 461 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: eventually going to catch up with you. 462 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: There's no question. 463 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: Mark had a tradition of meeting his father and brothers 464 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: at King George's Diner every Sunday for breakfast, but he 465 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: started missing many of those family bonding moments as his 466 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: cocaine use escalated. 467 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Sunday mornings was a tradition with my family and my 468 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: father would go to breakfast every morning, and that's when 469 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: I started to get into the habit of missing one Sunday, 470 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: then it was another's because you were so addicted to 471 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: this lifestyle at that point. Instead of getting up eight 472 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: thirty nine o'clock in the morning and going to breakfast 473 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: with my brothers and my father. 474 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: What I wanted to do was sleep. 475 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: I started to miss out on that tradition and realized 476 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 2: that it wasn't the best thing I wanted to do. 477 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: You feel guilty. 478 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: You look at the way my father looked at it, 479 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: probably right because he was looking forward to seeing us 480 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: every week. That was Dad day. It was Sunday, that 481 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: was the only day we saw him. So for me 482 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: to miss that, that's how did that make him feel? 483 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: He probably looked forward to it all week, and then 484 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: here comes Sunday and I don't show up. So I 485 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: start to feel guilty about that. It hurt me a 486 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: lot that I was missing family time. I would beat 487 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: myself up over it. Are you're gonna hang out with 488 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: these fucking derelics at a bar? You should be going 489 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: to seeing your brothers and your father. Many at times, 490 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: many at times that that thought went through my mind. 491 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: But I was too hungover, I was too out of it, 492 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: I had no motivation. My one friend said, you better 493 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: stop that shit. You're going to turn into his skid. 494 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: He used to call him kids, And there was a 495 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: part of me I thought about that. I said, really, 496 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: am I turning into one of these fucking guys. 497 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 498 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: There was a lot of times when I was partying. Yes, 499 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: you were enjoying the moment. But when I really felt 500 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: that the most is when I woke up ridiculously hungover 501 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: or you know, just cobwebbed out on a Sunday. I 502 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: would lay on the couch and watch TV and say, Mark, 503 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: what are you doing? 504 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Mark had to rationalize his actions and mask his guilt 505 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: in order to function. In his mind, he was simply 506 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: digging himself out of a financial hole. Basically, he needed 507 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: to tell himself he was a good guy. 508 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: When I was dealing, and that's what I was doing. 509 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: I guess I wanted to be looked at Mark, the 510 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: friend that had some extracurricular activities. 511 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: I never wanted anybody to be. 512 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: Like, Oh, Mark's a drug dealer who wants to be 513 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: known as a fucking drug dealer. 514 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Nobody, Nobody. 515 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: Maybe some people do, maybe they want to be the 516 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: next kingpin. 517 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: That's not me. I'm not one of them. 518 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: Because every single one of those fucking people that I 519 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: sold to, I thought they were all scumbags, every single 520 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: one of them. I didn't give a shit that they 521 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: were a scumbag because they were giving me money and 522 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: I was giving them what they wanted. But I thought 523 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: every single one of them was a fucking scumbag. Then 524 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: here I am doing it with him. But what does 525 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: that make me? Makes me a fucking scumbag too? 526 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: Right? 527 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: You just get to a point where you just think 528 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: you're better than them. What makes me better than them? 529 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing exactly what you're doing. Maybe it was because 530 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: I had a better job or I was making more money. 531 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: That really isn't a good enough reason, but that was 532 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: part of it. And I'm still going to wake up 533 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: Monday morning going to work. A couple of them didn't 534 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: even work. They were notorious for calling out I guess, 535 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: deep down inside, I always thought I was just a 536 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: little bit better than them. I wasn't a true comeback 537 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: that was a half a scumebag. It's hard for me 538 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: to say that about myself. 539 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: It is. 540 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: It's very hard to say that, but it's true. 541 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: The tight knit group of friends Mark grew up with 542 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: had all moved to different parts of the country and 543 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: started families of their own. Darren was down in Florida 544 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: and Jason had settled in San Diego. 545 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 6: When I first learned Mark's kind of post first marriage life. 546 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: At that point, I was still back in Jersey on 547 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 6: a fairly regular basis. We used to go up to Warwick, 548 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 6: both him and Matt were kind of up there together, 549 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 6: and we had hung out there multiple times at some 550 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 6: of the local bars and stuff, And honestly, it was 551 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: spawn Work is a guy that likes to have a 552 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: good time, like we all do. I think that was 553 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 6: kind of one of our common ponds growing up. 554 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: And we continue to do that. 555 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: And to me, it seemed like Mark was just being 556 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 6: a young single guy having a good time up in 557 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: New York and kind of moving on with his life. 558 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Everybody that I was really tight with in high school 559 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: all through college, they're married, they have kids, well they're 560 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: divorced to have kids, but they have kids. 561 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm the only one that doesn't have kids. Out of 562 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 3: all of my. 563 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: Good high school buddies, I'm still to this day the 564 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: only one that doesn't have any biological kids. And that 565 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: makes a difference. You tend to just attract those the 566 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: people that are in the same boat as you. 567 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you know, if I'm a plumber, I'm gonna hang 568 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: out plumbers. 569 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: Right. Every single person that was in this circle, to 570 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: my knowledge, had no kids. I was their family. It 571 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: was the drug family, you know it. It was the 572 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: Koch family, it was the hookup family. You always had 573 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: an easy outlet. My core friends moved on with their lives. 574 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: They wanted to start families. 575 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: I didn't. 576 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to drink, I wanted to hang out. I 577 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: didn't have kids. I didn't have to worry about putting 578 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: a college fund together. You know they did. 579 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Mark was struggling to keep this cocaine world separate from 580 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: his workplace world. With his coke habit now at its peak, 581 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: that was becoming harder and harder to manage. 582 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Found myself at work all the time dragging. There was 583 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: multiple days I said to my service advisors, listen, I'm 584 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: really not feeling that well. And that was basically the 585 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: nicest way of saying, stay the fuck out of my office. 586 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to close the door, and I don't want 587 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: to be bothered. I knew that was doing the wrong thing. 588 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: Here's people coming to work for me. They're my first 589 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: line of defense. Service advisors at a car dealership. If 590 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: they had an irate customer, they needed to come to me, 591 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: and here I am telling them stay away from me. 592 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: Figure it out. What do they need me for. There 593 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: was many a night's I said, holy shit, how am 594 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 2: I going to get to work tomorrow? And if I 595 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: had a blow, I would have failed the test. There 596 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: was nights where I drank until one two o'clock during 597 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: the week. And don't forget, I worked a lot of 598 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: Saturday So Friday nights, if you're going home at four 599 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: o'clock and you got to be down there by seven 600 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: point thirty on a Saturday, I literally went home, just 601 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: took a quick shower and looked in the mirror and. 602 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: Was like, what the fuck am I going to do? 603 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: And I drove to work. 604 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: I remember one day driving down to New York State 605 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Thruway and just doing key bumps the whole way, looking 606 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: in my mirror because I said you got to wake 607 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: the fuck up, man, You got to wake up. 608 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: I mean, who wants to do that? Who wants to 609 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: live a life that way? 610 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: And I did that just because that was going to 611 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: get me through the day by going the bathroom do 612 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: another one. At works, I was dragging. The only way 613 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: to get through the day at work was to continue. 614 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: There was nice. 615 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: I said, all right, I gott to leave some in 616 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: my pocket because there's no way I'm going to get 617 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: through work without doing coke in the bathroom, or coke 618 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: before I go in. I get to the parking spot 619 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: and I do a big one, and then the booze 620 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: is wearing off. Everything's starting to come down, and you 621 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: need that quick pick me up. Nobody at work knew 622 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: I was doing it. If they did, they never said it. 623 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Months had passed since the day Mark lost his marriage, 624 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: his nest egg, and now his self respect. His old 625 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: friends were distant, and he was surrounded by collection of 626 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: drug buddies who Mark really knew very little about, like 627 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: Billy and Jay. 628 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: Billy I met at the bar well before I was 629 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: doing anything as far as using, and he was a 630 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: guy that quite honestly as a single guy. Billy also 631 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: lived in town, walking distance to the place. We just 632 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: kind of hit it off. We really did. We had 633 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: the same interest, we were the same age, We laughed, 634 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: we liked to drink. He was the guy I hung 635 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: out with just about every day down there. Jay had 636 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: also become friends with Billy Well down at the bar 637 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: and friends with me. And Billy and I had such 638 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: a close relationship that I would have him sometimes go 639 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: and bring announce to somebody and then give me the money. 640 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: Whether I was busy or if I couldn't do it, 641 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: I just had something going on. Hey, Billy, do me 642 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: a favor. I'll bring Announced. Bring it to so and so, 643 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: he'll give you money, give it to me later. I mean, 644 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: I trusted the guy, really did. 645 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: One time, announce of cocaine Mark was picking up from 646 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Billy was meant for Jay. It was January twenty fifth, wintertime, 647 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: so it was cold out and dark by five pm. 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: As Mark drove his car to meet Billy. 649 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: When I pulled up at his house to get it, 650 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: he was outside. Actually I didn't go inside the house. 651 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: He had it on him, so he came up to 652 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: my door. I put the window down, he gave it 653 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: to me. I said, hey, have fun with your kids. 654 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: I'll give you a call later. It was as easy 655 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: as that. I grabbed it and took the seven minute 656 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: ride over to Woodbury Commons. I went in the back entrance. 657 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: I was communicating with Jay. He said, we're behind the 658 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: Calvin Kleine store. In the back, you'll see my pickup truck. 659 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Jay told Mark there was a spot near the back 660 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: entrance of the mall. It was crowded, so he should 661 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: look out for his blue pickup truck and park in 662 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the space next to him. 663 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: I pulled into the parking space and I got out 664 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: of my car. I hopped in his passenger seat and 665 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: I closed the door. I went into my pocket, and 666 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: before I even got it out of my pocket, I 667 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: was ripped out of that car by about eight to 668 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: ten State troopers, cops, DEA agents. 669 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: One guy threw me on the ground. He put his 670 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: foot right on my throat and put a gun to 671 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: my head. 672 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: Shock Incarceration is a joint production from iHeartRadio and Doghouse Pictures, 673 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: produced and hosted by Jeff Keating. Executive producers are Mark Lombardo, 674 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: Tommy James, Noel Brown, and Jeff Keating. Written by Jim Roberts, 675 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 2: Tommy James, Chris Rigozzo and Jeff Keating. Story edit by 676 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: Jim Roberts, Edit mix and sound design by Laine Crafts 677 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: from Herd's Creek Productions. Music composed by A Diamond Street Productions, 678 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: accompanied by Tyler Greenwell, Danny Wattanas, Sean Thompson and Spencer Garne. 679 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Trinity Investigative Group and Mark Lombardo's family 680 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: and friends who contributed to the podcast.