1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The game is over and New York the world. You 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: play to win the game. He's got as jet locks down, can't. 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. What's Up, Everybody? Thanks for downloading 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen in Studio 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: e A. Another week goes by. I do want to 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: say that although the Jets did lose Saturday against the Texas, 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you can't not be excited about what you're seeing out 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: of Sam Donald. And really this part of the season 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: for fans, when the team is eliminated from playoff contention, 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: that's really what you want to see is your rookie quarterback, 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the guy that you believe will lead this franchise to 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: winning records for the years to come. For one as well, 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of buzz in the stadium Saturday night. And 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily started that way, but it 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: all goes back to him sitting out a few weeks 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: over a month where he didn't see any game action 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: with that strain right foot, came back against the Buffalo Bills, 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: did his damage late, becoming the youngest quarterback in NFL 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: history to lead a game winning Dry leads the Jets 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: to come from behind victory. That had to do wonders 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: first confidence. The following week against the Houston Texans, I 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: know a lot of people rightfully saw we're wondering what 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: was the Jets offense going to be able to do 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: against the Texans defense? Because your minus Isaiah Crowl obviously 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: balal poles by in on injur reserve for a while 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Quincy and Noonwall was down. You're shuffling a lot of 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: pieces up front along that offensive line. But I think 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Donald turned in the best effort so far of his 30 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: young NFL career thirty eight to fifty three, two touchdowns. 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: He also used his feet very well six rushes thirty 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: five yards UM and uh, Josh mccowll told me after 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the game that you knew about his athletic ability, but 34 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: now he's starting to win in the pocket, and that 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: was always the question with any of these young guys, 36 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: and Donald's starting to show a lot of positive signs. 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm kind of disappointed that the season 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: is gonna end in two weeks. Sure, but it is 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: nice to close on a high nose ye. But I'm 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: just saying he's going to play the way that he 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: has been. Yeah, But my point is I just want 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: this kid to keep on playing. Oh yeah, for sure. 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: And it's been well documented the time between the end 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: of this season and the beginning of next season. Really 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: where O t A s begin in the spring is 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: where Donald will see the most growth, or where you 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: would assume most quarterbacks see the most growth from their 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: rookie year to their sophomore year. But Saturday was the 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: third time this season that Sam Donald has had a 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: rating of one hundred or more. You think about Week 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: six against the Colts, debatably one of the better performances 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: for Samulans. I thought this one was more impressive because 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I thought maybe while the offensive line played very well 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: against the Texans, I thought the Jets had everything going 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: offensively against the Colts. And I don't think the Colts 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: played awfully well that game. So I would just say 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: that to me, Uh, he has completion percentage wasn't as 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: high as it was against the Colts, but I think 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: overall he was doing better things. I agree. I think 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: that you mentioned it that Donald looked more comfortable in 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: the pocket and he was more decisive, and what I 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: really like there's one play in particular where he gets 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the snack, immediately realizes that no one's really open. You 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: only need the X amount of yards to get the 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: first out. Immediately tucked and Rand got the first out. 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: That was it. I think it was probably like third 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: and five or so, and he tucked it. Ran slid 68 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: popped up that I was it. And I think what 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing is Donald look a lot more comfortable at 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage pre snap, understanding what exactly he 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: wants to do, what defense is met, what the defense 72 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: is trying to do. And Sam Donald said it himself. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Taking a couple of weeks off, although it was because 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: of an unfortunate reason with the strain right foot, eventually 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: ended up helping him because it helped him slow the 76 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: game down. Slow his mind now a little bit while 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: learning from Josh McCown, not that he hasn't been learning, 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: but he sees it through different lens, watching Josh McCown 79 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: lead the starting off as lead the first team offense 80 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: and practice and walk through and everything that he does. 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: And frankly, I'm excited to see what Sam Donald does, 82 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: not only this weekend against the Packers, but then up 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: in Foxborough against Tom Brady and the Patriots, because that 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: is probably one of the tougher places to play in 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't think the Patriots lost on this year. 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I was just looking at it. The Atriots or nine 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and five as we enter what week sixteen in the 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: National Football League season, there are three and five on 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: the road, So yeah, ge lot, they don't lose too 90 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: much there. But that's why I don't think the New 91 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: England Patriots are going to the Super Bowl this year. 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Green's because they're gonna have to possibly play on the 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: road at least twice. I don't see the Patriots going 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. But the spot is not about 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: completely about the Patriots. I would just just a small portion. 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: I would say home in a waste splits really have 97 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: my attention right now because the Jets have a hell 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: of an opportunity to win this week, and I know 99 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot of fans are still focusing on the two 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen draft. I say, don't worry about that whether 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: you have the number three overall selection or which the 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Jets would have at the season end of today. But oh, 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: by the way, the season does that today, so they 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: don't have the number three overall selection, so you're probably 105 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna have anywhere between what three and time or one 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: in time or whatever. I don't know. My point, you're 107 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: gonna have a good pick at the top of the 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: first round. And I want to see a Donald win 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: some games. He is an opportunity to win another one 110 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: this week against a struggling Green Bay Packers team. There's 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: a five eight and one, and oh, by the way, 112 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: they are zero and seven on the road in two 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. We're gonna catch up with Tom Silverstein of 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel later on in the show. He 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: also has a podcast. You can listen to that on 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: JS online. It is a Packers podcast, but this is 117 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the official New York Jets podcast. So we talked about 118 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Sam Nornld, and we keep talking about it. But I 119 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: wanted to be known that the Jets almost won last 120 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: week's game. And I know it's a sour taste in 121 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: the fans mouth. Well, maybe not the fans if they 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: want the better draft pick. It's probably actually last week 123 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: was probably the best case scenario for fans that want 124 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: to see Donald play well but want the higher draft pick. 125 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: But this is not about the draft and I think 126 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: that's the loser's mentality. Well, that that's I think what 127 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: the pulse of most fans is right now. They want 128 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: the high pick, but they want their Of course, at 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you want to have a 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: draft pick that is higher. I mean once you get 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to April, but you play to win the game you have, 132 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: you have your quarterback. You have your quarterback. So I 133 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sure you are a big draft guy. 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: I haven't studied too much of the draft. I watched 135 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of college football. I don't know if there's 136 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: a big difference between picking three and eight and the 137 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: draft buddy this year, especially considering you've got a quarterback. 138 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I think I think a couple of things. I think 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: that one, this class as it stands is edge rusher heavy, 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: So no, I don't think that there's a big difference. 141 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: The other part is that I think a lot of 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: fans want a high pick just as trade bait, simply 143 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: as trade bait so someone will get up and we pay, 144 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: so the Jets can trade down and stockpile picks. I 145 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: think that's really what it's about. We're playing fantasy football. 146 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: What I would say is, what's realistic is that you 147 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 1: do have financial flexibility. The Jets are going to add 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: pieces around Sam Donald. That is factual. It is going 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to happen. How that is going to look, I don't 150 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: know what positions they are. Um, if it's a guy 151 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: on the line, if it's a receiver, it's a running back. 152 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: They are going to add pieces around Sam Donald even 153 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: before the draft. So again we're trying to look at 154 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: the draft right now, which is impossible because the draft 155 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: board also will shuffle and shuffle and shuffle up and 156 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: seen your bowl combine, and then there's always that late, 157 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: that late riser that comes and smoking hot. Um. But again, uh, 158 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: you got your quarterback. Let's see what happens. Let's see 159 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: what some of the pieces that you add around him 160 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: in free agency, and then we'll get to the draft 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: and we'll study where they're at. Yes, you want to 162 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: built for the draft, but oh, by the way, you've 163 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: got Sam Donald in the draft. All right, more Jets 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: talk after we catch up with Tom Silverstein. But let's 165 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: bring Tom on the pod. Delighted now to be joined 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: by Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Tom, thanks 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: so much for joining on the official Jets podcast, You're welcome, 168 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: and Tom also has a podcast you gotta listen to 169 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: that that's the Packers podcast on j S online. A 170 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: little cross promotion here on the official Jets podcasts. All 171 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: podcasts are friends of each other's podcast. But let's talk 172 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: about this Jets Packers matchup for a second here, because 173 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of fans back in the 174 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: beginning beginning of the year obviously thought of the Packers 175 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: as a team that would be making the playoffs and 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: when the NFC North are being contention for that. So 177 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: what do you feel like has happened this year in 178 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay? Well, uh, BOI, where do I get started? 179 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, it started with Aaron Rodgers getting hurt in 180 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: the season opener and injuring his knee, and a lot 181 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: of what Mike McCarthy's plans for the season got altered 182 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: pretty dramatically because of the things that uh Rogers was 183 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: limited to. I mean, for a while, he couldn't line 184 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: up under center. He had to do everything out of 185 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the shotgun or the pistol, and so, you know, things 186 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: just kind of they just kind of struggled offensively. Then 187 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: they found out you know that they really uh didn't 188 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: have enough helped at wide receiver that they were playing with. 189 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: You know, they lost one of their veteran guys, Geronimoy Ellison, 190 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: and then they're playing two rookies, and then you know, 191 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham hasn't been as good as they thought he 192 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: would be, and it's just been kind of one thing 193 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: after another, and Rogers just had been playing while he's 194 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: he's missing receivers that you've never seen him missed before. 195 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really pretty remarkable how different he is, 196 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, and you're used to a certain standard and 197 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: he's not hitting that standard right now. So just it's 198 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: been one thing after ever, and they had a brutal schedule. 199 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: They had to play four road games in five weeks, 200 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: and the road games were at l a h then 201 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: at New England, then they went to Seattle and then Minnesota, 202 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: and they lost all of them. And they haven't went 203 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: on the road all year. So it's just been one 204 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: of those years where you know, it's it's it's not 205 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: been pretty. And then McCarthy lost his job because of that. 206 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Some people tom are saying that this is the first 207 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: season that the Packers will not be in the playoffs 208 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: with a healthy Aaron Rodgers since two thousand and eight. 209 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: But what I would ask you is, is Aaron Rodgers healthy? 210 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: I know he's been playing, and you mentioned he hasn't 211 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: been the same guy. Do you attribute that to injury? 212 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: Because just looking at it from Afar and we've seen 213 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of Aaron Rodgers when we're not covering 214 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the Jets, of course, because you're still getting a lot 215 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: of prime time exposure there in Green Bay. That his 216 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: numbers haven't been awful if you consider him. I know 217 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: that's not a typical a rod year in terms of 218 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: completion percentage, but wow, has it really struck out to 219 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: me that the interceptions are solo? What is the twenty 220 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and two interceptions so far this year? Well, 221 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem. Actually, he's thrown 222 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: more passes away. He's been less willing to take any chances, 223 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's what hurt his game more than anything, 224 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: is that he has played it safe and he sort 225 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: of I don't know if he's gotten um caught up 226 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: in the whole interception thing. You know, he had this 227 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: broke the record for the streak of the longest number 228 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: attempts before throwing an interception. But he's not throwing guys open. 229 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: He's not throwing a lot of contested balls. He's you know, 230 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: scrambling a lot. He'll just bail out of the pocket 231 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: and go to the scramble play really quickly. And it's 232 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: been really remarkable the number of um uh receivers that 233 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: he's not throwing the ball to. You look at it 234 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: and you go, Okay, that guy's open in your mind, 235 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: but in his mind, he's not. And that's that's a big, 236 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: big change to what you know you're used to. And uh, 237 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: there's just something you know early on it was that 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't happy with the offense that McCarthy's often was boring, 239 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and it wasn't doing what all the things that you 240 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: know that that Sean McVeigh is doing, and um, you 241 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: know Shanahan and that they had gotten stale and all 242 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, um, they're just he just he was 243 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: a different guy. And that's kind of how it's been 244 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: all year. What are your thoughts on the job Mike 245 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy did in Green Bay. Uh, we think about all 246 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: the playoff appearances and he did lead the Packers to 247 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl championship, it seems like that relationship with 248 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fell apart. It's at some point, But overall, 249 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: what do you think about the job he did in 250 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay? And also how good of a hike coach 251 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is. I think he did a phenomenal job 252 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think you can ever take away uh 253 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: what he what he did there, which was, uh go 254 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl and four n a C Championship games. 255 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: And while you know his detractors will say, well, you 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: didn't win enough super Bowls with Aaron Rodgers, Well, you 257 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: know that's that's sort of uh comes with the territory. 258 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to say that about Sean Payton 259 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: that he hasn't won enough with Drew Brees. You know, 260 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: the only guy you say is consistently one is Tom Brady, 261 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and there's just winning super Bowls is hard. McCarty's put 262 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: them in the He's every single year they were in 263 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the mix. You know, they were a team that had 264 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a chance to go somewhere, you know, and it didn't 265 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: happen every year. So I think he did a phenomenal job, 266 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: and I think he'd be uh really solid coach for anybody. 267 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that Um, the only thing 268 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I would say with the caveat is that I do 269 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: think he needs to add some youth to his offensive staff. 270 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: He needs to bring in some new people who can 271 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: have some different ideas because he surrounded himself with a 272 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of the guys who are steeped in the offense 273 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: that he has this matchup offense, and this offense is 274 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: really good, but you have to have really good players 275 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: for it to succeed. And I think that's kind of 276 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: been the issue for the Packers is that they're in 277 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: a transition period. You know, they're transitioning from uh a 278 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: new with a new GM, and he's brought in new 279 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: players and they kind of got a little bit old 280 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and now they're they're retooling. So that that played a 281 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: role in in their record this year. How would you 282 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: describe Mike McCarthy's style off the field and how would 283 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: you describe his offense? So, Um, he's a straight shooter. 284 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a guy for m Pittsburgh. He's 285 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: he's all Pittsburgh, you know, I mean he is he 286 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: is uh very much a down to earth. Um, He's 287 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: not a pretty talker or a big raw rock guy. 288 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: He's really organized, he's really good at um. He loves 289 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: calling plays, he loves the challenge of calling plays, and 290 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: he's pretty good at it. People around here will will 291 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: dispute that, but I I UM, I think the thing 292 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: with his offense is it's totally a matchup offense. He 293 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: does not do a lot of scheming to get people open. 294 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: He what he does is try to create one on 295 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: one matchups that favor the offense. So if you have 296 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: really good receivers, he's going to get one of those 297 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: guys open one way or another. Are someone's going to 298 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: get a one on one and then he counts on 299 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: them getting open and they don't. You know, this year 300 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: that hasn't happened because they've had some rookie receivers who 301 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: just are still learning the offense, and so it's been 302 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: a little bit different that. Man, what do you think 303 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the Packers need as they looked at the offseason. We're 304 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: gonna get to the match up here in a second. 305 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: We're definitely not forgetting Jets Packers. But it's just been 306 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: a fascinating their fascinating year there in Green Bay. And uh, 307 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: you've been right in the midst of it. For so 308 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: long time. What do you think the Packers do need 309 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: in terms of a new leader when their search begins. Uh, 310 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: if Joe Philbin just finishes out here and then they 311 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: start that coaching searching earnest well, the big thing is, 312 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I think every candidate they bring in 313 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, Okay, you have to ask 314 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: this guy, Okay, what would you do with Aaron Rodgers 315 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: right now? You know, how how would you get him 316 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: playing back to the way he was playing? And you know, 317 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: I would be curious to hear from all of the candidates, 318 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: especially the offensive one. You know, what, what is your 319 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: offensive plan? Who do you plan on bringing in as 320 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: some of your assistance? Do you have some a strong 321 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, a guy who probably has played the position, 322 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: because Rogers is going to need somebody he really trusts 323 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: and and respects. And are you, you know, to what 324 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: degree are you gonna be able to coach him? And 325 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: then you know, are you willing to uh be just 326 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: a coach? Because they have a GM and he has 327 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: total say over personnel, but he doesn't have total control 328 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: over the whole football operation, which is a weird setup. 329 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: It's sort of like the head coach reports to the president, 330 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: the GM reports to the president, and the CAP guy 331 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: reports to the president. So I'm not really sure. I 332 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: guess the president in charge that would be Mark Murphy. 333 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: And it's it's not a great set up, and um, 334 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: but you have to find out are you okay with that? 335 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: You know, will you be able to work with the 336 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: GM and play his guys and and and so that's 337 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that they're going to be looking at. 338 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I think they could hire an offensive or defensive guy. 339 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: They've traditionally hired offensive guys. I mean, going all the 340 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: way back to uh, you know, Forest, Greg Wendy and Fonte, 341 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, you know, Ray Rhodes was the one difference 342 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: and we lasted one year. Mike Sherman, Mike McCarthy, So 343 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: you would think they'd be after an offensive guy, but 344 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: you never know. I mean, I think they need to 345 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: look at mc fangio in Chicago. He's been kicking their 346 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: butt for you know, a decade, and you know, if 347 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: you can't you can't beat them, join them. So I 348 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they take a look at him. 349 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: To the time, very recently in the journal sense, and 350 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: all you wrote that Mike Patton is making his case 351 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: to stay on if in fact the Packers do elect 352 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: to go with an offensive mind as their head coach. 353 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: Can you talk about Patton, the former Jets defensive coordinator, 354 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: what he's been doing there in his first year in 355 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay, considering all those injuries on the defensive side 356 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: of the ball. And then let's fast forward to Sunday, 357 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: what do you expect Patton is going to throw at 358 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Sam Donald. Yeah, he's done a really solid job. 359 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you could have asked for 360 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: anything more for a guy who's playing. So they've had 361 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: so many injuries, and you know in on defense that 362 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday they were playing with um two rookie corners 363 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: where they're two starters. Their third corner has been played 364 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: only about four games. For Shot Breland, it was a veteran, 365 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: but he's been hurt pretty much all year. They're playing 366 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: with Tramon Williams, U career corner playing safety for the 367 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: first time. And uh, they're playing with a guy they 368 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: picked up off the street two weeks ago at their 369 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: nickel linebacker spot. So all that said, you know they 370 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: were missing their two best defensive lineman Mike Daniels and 371 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark. They lost Mohammed Wilkerson at the beginning of 372 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: the year. He's just put together. He's just kept them 373 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: together and his third down defense has been really good. 374 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: They have these moments where they play poorly, but then 375 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: they always seem to get their act together. And I 376 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: think he's just done a really nice job. Is he 377 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: going to be sun and everything? But the kitchen sink 378 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: against Donald on Sunday? You think a lot of blitz packages, 379 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot of overloads. Uh, you know, that's really interesting 380 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: because of course, you know, you know, you guys know him. Well, 381 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: he's was uh running the Rex Ryan defense and they 382 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: do blitz but he's picked up some other things along 383 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: the way to uh you know, and he said that 384 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: that it's being out of football for a year to 385 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: give him a chance to look at some other schemes, 386 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: and he's kind of blended some things in. So, yeah, 387 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: you'll see some some of those blitzes, but it won't 388 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: be constant. You know, there will be times where he'll 389 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: he'll drop eight guys and then other times he'll bring 390 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: corner blitzes. Uh. He's he's really had to mix things 391 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: up to you know, have some success with this defense. 392 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: They probably won't look exactly like it did, but uh, 393 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: you will see some of those blitzes they brought him 394 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: against Mr Drabinsky last week, but you know, only in 395 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: a controlled manner. So the Packers are all in seven 396 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: on the road. They have they have been winless on 397 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: the road since nineteen seventy eight. I know the team 398 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: obviously has endured a lot of difficulty this year, but 399 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: can you point you You talked about the schedule strength 400 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: before as far as they to brutal road schedule, but 401 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: in addition to that, can you point to anything specifically 402 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: and say this is why this team can't get it 403 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: done away from home. Well, aside from the Washington game, 404 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: they've been in every single one of those games and 405 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: they could have won every single one of those. Maybe 406 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: New England was a little borderline, but they were tied 407 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, so you know, Seattle that they 408 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: should have. They had a chance to win that with 409 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: a game winning drive the Rams. They were all set, 410 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: they had two, two or five to go, uh, down 411 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: by two, and their kick returner for some reason, decides 412 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: to take it out of the end zone and flumbles 413 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: and they lose the game. Then, uh, Minnesota they were 414 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: right in it all the way, and Seattle they had 415 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: a chance to win. So it's been like that every 416 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: single week. And it was like that in Chicago they 417 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: had a chance. They tied it up late. You know, 418 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: they had the ball at fift the yard line after 419 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: a stop with the game tied, and Rogers overthrows two 420 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: guys for sure touchdown or one of them are for 421 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: sure touchdown, the other's a big game. They just can't 422 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: get over the hump on these close games. And you know, 423 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: these are games that Rogers wins all the time, you know, 424 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: or has one all the time. You give him a 425 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: chance with on the road, he's been you know, a 426 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: dagger thrower, and he's not done that year. And that's 427 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: probably the biggest explanation, Tom When you look at this 428 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: matchup on both sides of the ball, do you see 429 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: or what are the areas in which you think that 430 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: the Jets could exploit the Packers, that maybe the Packers 431 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: a little less strong than years pasted. Well, you know 432 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: on defense, they I mean they are they are really 433 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: beat up on the defensive line. So you gotta want 434 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: to try to um run on them. Their pass rushes 435 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: and't gonna be all that great. They're gonna have the 436 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: blitz to create pass rush. So if you can pick 437 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: up their blitzes, then you've got a chance to uh 438 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: gash them pretty good. Um. Offensively, you know, they they're 439 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: playing with a backup right tackle and a backup right guard, 440 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: and so you know you've got to put pressure on 441 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Rogers off of that side. I mean, you've got to 442 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: take advantage of those guys. Uh. The rest of their 443 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: offensive line is very good, but those two young guys 444 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: on Jason Spirits at right tackle and uh Lucas Patrick 445 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: at right guard, you gotta you gotta take advantage of that. Um, 446 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: their best running back is out here and Jones. So 447 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: you should hold them to you know, twenty four points 448 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: max unless Rodgers is for some reason breaks out. But 449 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: it's a winnable game for the Jets, it really is. 450 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: You just as long as you know the package, don't 451 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: don't turn other teams over much. They have like seven 452 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: interceptions the whole year, and uh, they're just they're just 453 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: a very mediocre team right now. Last one for me, 454 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: do you like what you've seen out of Sam Donald. 455 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: Obviously you're you got the Packers that you're covering. You're 456 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: chronicling Aaron Rodgers every step and every misstep so far 457 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen. But the last couple of weeks, 458 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: as Donald impressed you and considering it looks like Aaron 459 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: Rodgers still gonna play these final two games. Um, do 460 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: you think that adds a little juice to this matchup 461 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: as far as Aaron Rodgers, one of the games all 462 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: time greats at the position, and the Jets rookie quarterback 463 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who's starting to take some steps as his 464 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: rookie year comes to a conclusion. Yeah, as much as 465 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to try to build it that way, 466 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I can't really see it in any lens other than 467 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: the Packers are playing out this year. They're just they're done. Yeah, 468 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing for them to accomplish in these last two years, 469 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: the last two games. There's a lot of young guys 470 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: who want to be around next year, that want to 471 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, want to play and want to play hard, 472 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: and they'll play hard for Joe Filban. They like Joe 473 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Philban a lot, but uh, you know from from uh 474 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, matchup, you know, getting psyched about a game 475 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. I I don't know. I think 476 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: it's they're just playing because they're professionals and that's what 477 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: they do. They play. But there's like no add INCENTI. Um. 478 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: As as far as Donald, I'm sure. Um. You know, 479 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: I've had a chance to watch a little bit. I've 480 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: seen more of uh Baker Mayfield because Cleveland is just 481 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, a team that I know a little bit 482 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: more off. They have some Packers guys who are running 483 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: that that show. Um. But the good I've seen on 484 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Donald is you know, he's having what I think is 485 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: a typical rookie year for for a quarterback, and that's 486 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: not bad. You learn a lot in that first year. 487 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, Rogers sat for three years and didn't really 488 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: get that chance to go through all the all the 489 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: things that a rookie quarterback gets to go through when 490 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: he plays. And so it's a really valuable time for him. 491 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I think these last two games for 492 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: him are really important because you know, he's trying to 493 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: build something there. The Packers are just trying to finish 494 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: out and you know, figure out where the heck they are. 495 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: But I think you know, with with the Jets, I 496 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: would guess that they're trying to build something for next year, 497 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: even if it's with a different coach. Real quick, just 498 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: bouncing off of ease topic right there before we let 499 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: you go. I know you've only seen a little bit 500 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: of Sam Donald, but do you see any resemblance to 501 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the sense of the magical sloppiness, the 502 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: ability to extend and excel all scripts. You know, that's 503 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: a that's a tough question because the thing about Rogers 504 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: that it developed over time. You know, his this uh 505 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: scramble ability that was not who he was right in 506 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: at the beginning. Um, he sort of gave him a 507 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: lot as time went on that they went to more 508 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: no huddle and they gave him more freedom to do 509 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: things that the line of scrimmage and his scrambling was 510 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: not at the beginning, was not as big a part 511 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: of his game. It's sort of developed later when he 512 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: figured out, um, how much of a weapon that could be. 513 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's sort of the line that you 514 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: see with like a Josh Allen um and I think 515 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Donald's the same way. When do you use it? And 516 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, do you overuse it or keep it under control, 517 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: and I think at this point, you know a lot 518 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: of times when they're running, it's just running to get 519 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: out of trouble. But soon they'll use it, you know, 520 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: after a while, like Rogers, did you start to use 521 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: it as a weapon. And that's kind of the transition 522 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: that you started looking for. Well the time, you've been 523 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: so generous with your time. Fans can follow you at 524 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: Tom Silverstein and also go to JS dot com not 525 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: only just to read Tom, but he's got a blog 526 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: on there. I got a podcast on there as well, 527 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: podcast the Packers Podcast. We will see you at MetLife 528 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Stadium this weekend, sir, you bet your I will be 529 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: there alright. Many thanks to Tom again for joining the 530 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast this week. E A. We've talked a 531 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: lot about Sam Donald and for rightfully so no doubt 532 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: about it. But what do you think of the way 533 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: Elia McGuire Trent Cannon played after Isaiah Krowell went on 534 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: i R early last week? How do you think they 535 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: played against the Texans and what would you like to 536 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: see out of these guys in what is really very 537 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: much so valuable reps for these guys moving forward the 538 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: past the last two weeks alright, thought Jeremy bas called 539 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: a good game. There was a lot of balance out there. Um, 540 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: it was nice to see Ela McGuire getting some help 541 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: from his friends there on his touchdown against the Houston 542 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Tech since in the fourth quarter that TD actually gave 543 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: the Jets a lead. So he's got scores in consecutive weeks, Cannon. Um, 544 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: take nothing away from the reps he's getting offensively. He's 545 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: incredible on special teams. That's one of the stories that 546 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: just falls under the radar because he's brought here to 547 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: be a return man and all this sudden has become 548 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: one of the best gunners I've seen a person this 549 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: year period. Um, you know, but uh yeah, you know, 550 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: those guys are getting big time reps down the stretch, 551 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: so it's very important. And I also got I also 552 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: got to credit the offensive line because you got Jonathan 553 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: Harrison center, you got Spencer Long, who was gonna be 554 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: your center at left guar because James carpenters on inju reserve. 555 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: Now Brandon Shall it probably he's gonna head to injury reserve. 556 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: We're sitting here taping on uh Tuesday, and he looked 557 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: like he suffered. I'm not a doctor, but they had 558 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: to bring the card out for him. I would imagine 559 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be out for a while, so you might 560 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: be dealing with Brent waal at and even if the 561 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: shell injury isn't as catastrophic or as severe as we think. 562 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Two weeks two weeks, yeah, Yeah, it's a week and 563 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: a half from now the season one in New England. 564 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: So I gotta credit the offensive line and what the 565 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: guys have done in the backfield. And there are certain 566 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: pieces that we talked about adding to the mix to 567 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: help Darnald out and here in the future. But there 568 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: are guys developing in front of our own eyes. Robbie 569 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: Anderson and Donald has showing that chemistry the last couple 570 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: of weeks. How about Chris Herndon. He looks like a 571 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: big time keeper and he's got tremendous rhythm going with 572 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Eli McGuire is gonna be here for a while, 573 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Trent and Cannon is gonna be here for a while. 574 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: But all those reps are valuable for those guys. And 575 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: then even if you do add along the offensive line, 576 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: you're depth been tested here and I think the guys 577 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: have responded. I was about to look up a stat 578 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: but you cut your point short. So how I was 579 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: gonna look it up? Look it up? No, No, I 580 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: saw something that Jordan Leggett has had like a I 581 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: thought it was like six six regardless. I mean, that's 582 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: not that he's over achieving, because he's not, but it's 583 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: it's nice to see Jordan Legott finally touched the field 584 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: and make somewhat of an impact after last year he 585 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: basically didn't play the entire years rookie year was cut short. Yeah, 586 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: to me, it just goes back to Herndon. I'm not 587 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: taking anything away from that. I'm not trying to like yeah, 588 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to say, like, at least there's 589 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: something that there's somewhat of a future there at the 590 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: tight end position after being non existent for a couple 591 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: of years. I would agree with that. And Donald's the 592 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: two of his most impressive place against Houston is he's 593 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: rolling to the right in the fourth quarter. A lot 594 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: of people thought, hey, maybe he's just gonna talk it, 595 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: and he threw a touch pass to Herndon. And then 596 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: he also did that in the first staff where he's 597 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: rolling to his left and he throws another touch pass. 598 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: So that's what we had heard about Donald for a 599 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: long time, is the accuracy on the move while we're 600 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: seeing more and more. And how about the design role 601 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: from Jeremy bas there where he does the spin. This 602 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: was early in the third quarter, and then through that 603 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: twenty yard dart to Robbie Anderson spin, it's been where 604 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: he rolled to his left. Yeah, that's definitely just I. 605 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: I asked Pennington about it because I can't make that 606 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: call and say, hey, is that something where he reads J. J. Watt? 607 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, Because wasn't that the first play 608 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: when Brent Quality was in and one of the first 609 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: that he was in. I'm not sure you might remember 610 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: on that. Uh, your memory might serve you correctly. But 611 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is I asked Pennington because he knows 612 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: as far as the quarterback position things like that. He 613 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: thinks that's a play you work on in a practice 614 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: and it's a sprint left. It's a sprint left, So 615 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: when you work on in a practice. What he said, 616 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: and you can watch this Jetts flight plan Sunday morning, 617 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back on eleven thirty CBS, is that he 618 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: does the spin in practice and then sprints left, throws 619 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: it up the sideline. You do whatever you're comfortable with 620 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: their and Donald probably worked on that there in a week. 621 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: Donald's accuracy on the run has very has been very 622 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: impressive all year, and you saw a glimpses of it 623 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: in the preseason and training camp, and to see it 624 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: in the regular season with with live bullis is very 625 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: nice to see him. And if you're a Judge fan, 626 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: you have to be encouraged. This whole Aaron Rodgers thing 627 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: is crazy that we talked to Tom about it. I 628 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: almost don't not that I don't believe Tom, but I 629 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: almost don't believe Tom. I do, but I almost don't 630 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: believe what is happening in Green Bay because when you 631 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: think how great of a player Aaron Rodgers is, you 632 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: just kind of waiting for him to erupt. I feel 633 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: like you're just waiting for him to finally be Aaron 634 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers at your used to it might have Yeah, that 635 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: might not be this year. Well I don't think it's 636 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: gonna be this year. He could come out and throw 637 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: darts all over the field, but it doesn't seem like 638 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Um. So that was very interesting analysis 639 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: because we just look at numbers greens and maybe we 640 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: see a Packers game once a year or twice a year, um, 641 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: when we had the fortune of being home or something 642 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: like that. But he said the interception number kind of 643 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: is indicative of what's going on with him because I 644 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: look at him, like, guys not turning the ball over, 645 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: that's doing a great job. Where Thom is saying, he's 646 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: not taking any kind of chances down the field and 647 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: it's hurting this team. And he's not being decisive in 648 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: the pocket. Uh, he's not trusting his reads. These are 649 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: certain things that we're talking about with Sam Donald, you know, 650 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback. So I mean he is human, uh, 651 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: and he did uh deal with that knee injury earlier 652 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: in the year. Um. Obviously it's some uh philosophical differences 653 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: with former head coach Mike McCarthy, but they had tremendous 654 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: run together no matter how it ended. But Joe fell 655 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: and said this week that, hey, it's all about being professional. 656 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: I would imagine the Packers come in here with the 657 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: professional effort. But as Tom said, the Packers and the 658 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Jets are in completely different situations heading into Week sixteen. 659 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about. But I will say that 660 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: DeVante Addams a great player, so the Jets might have 661 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: their hand for he is with him. He is a 662 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: great player, but I don't think he is on And 663 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: then this is not a bolton board material because nobody's 664 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: saying this downstairs. He is not on the same level 665 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: as DeAndre Hopkins. I think DeAndre Hopkins is on another 666 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: level that most people in the league. I'm saying that. 667 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: But Davante Adams got yards received, he has twelve touchdowns. Yes, 668 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: but I see other guys on there who I look 669 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: at their numbers and I'm like, well, what's happening there? Randall, 670 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: he used to be a very productive player. That's that's 671 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: very interesting to think about. And then one of your 672 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: favorite names of the draft is yeah, right, he's one 673 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: of the guys in there. And then they had undrafted 674 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: free agent who's yeah, they got the all name team, 675 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: the name team they do. And then they have Jimmy Graham. 676 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: But Jimmy Graham, he's not Jimmy Graham of old No, 677 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: but it's much like Rob Gronkowski. I think, um different players, 678 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: but who were very good, very elite at the position 679 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: for a long time. Those guys are not what they 680 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: used to be, and I think that Rogers making making 681 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: the transition back to Rogers. I think Rogers can get 682 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: it back. I don't know if that's going to happen 683 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: Sunday or whoever they finish up with, and that's gonna 684 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: be an attractive head coaching job. So I'm pretty sure 685 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: the Packers have a lot of picks this year too. 686 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: They have two I know they have two picks in 687 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: the first round two thousand nineteen draft. But you know, 688 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: I was hoping when the schedule came out, we're gonna 689 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: get a chance of seeing Mike Mohammad Wokerson and Mike 690 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: Putton's defense. But obviously that hasn't happened. At disappointed season 691 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 1: for Mo Big moa on the injury reserve. I believe, yeah, 692 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: he had a leg injury pretty early all this year. 693 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: But we'll get an up close to personal look at 694 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: the Packers this Sunday. I gotta reiterate that is Sunday 695 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: and not Saturday because Saturday football has begune in the NFL. 696 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: But Sunday, one o'clock Jets Packers Week six team. We'll 697 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: see m L.