1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Ron A Aian. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Cars have become a lifestyle morning and I don't know 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: where this occurred, but as you, as you and everyone 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: else is finding out. It's you leased the car and 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: they cover the close to repairs. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Take it the car doctor. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: You know, I know it's going to be a two 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: hundred dollars tire or two hundred and fifty dollars tire. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: But what's her life worth? What's what's what's the car worth? 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: What's not getting stuck on the side of the road 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: or an accident wharf. 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors. 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your call. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: At eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: now he. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Running. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: You know the hour is going to go by quick, 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: so let's let's get rolling fast. Let's go over and 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: talk to Brian in Philadelphia and see what's going on 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: as we open the phone lines right away, Brian, Welcome 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: to the car doctor, Sir, how can I help Brian? Brian? 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: You're there? Hey, Ron, Hey Brian, Yes sir, what's going on? 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: He? 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Yes? Are you there? Brian? Brian going once? Brian? Can 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: you hear me? Brian? 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I can hear you, Brian, can you hear me? Hello? Tom? Tom? 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: Are you doing this on purpose? This has got to 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: be Tom, Tom? What are you doing there? Well? Tom's 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: working on that. Let me uh, let me let me 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: get you know, let me explain. Folks. See, I have 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: an engineer with a great sense of humor. Except I 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: don't think this is Tom. I think this is this 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: is this is something else going on here. So I 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: think Tom is working feverishly to get Brian back on 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: the air. I think he's going to try and call 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: him back in the meantime, let me do this piece 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: of email from Mark out in Fairdale, North Dakota. Ron, 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I listened to your show and love it. I've gotten 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: very good advice before. I live on a farm in 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: northeast North Dakota. My kids are growing on their own. 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: My wife and I were looking to upgrade her vehicle. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: We have a twenty ten GMC yukon right now with 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand miles on it. It still drives everywhere and 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: we've kept up with maintenance, but it's time for an update. 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: I've been looking at used vehicles. This will primarily be 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: my wife's vehicle, and it's hard to find a decent 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Yukon Tahoe at a reasonable price. But it's hard to 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: find anything at a reasonable price right now, Mark, but 54 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: I get it. We want something not too big, as 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: we have one ton pickups for the farm and want 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: to stick with Ford or GM as services here as 57 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: best here for them. That makes sense. I've also been 58 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: looking at twenty nineteen and newer Ford Rangers twenty seventeen 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: and newer Colorado and GMC Canyon. I have not considered 60 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Expedition due to only having a three to five in 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: it for a bigger vehicle. I agree with that one 62 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: hundred percent. I think they put these little engines in 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: these bigger vehicles and then they twin turbo charge them, 64 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: and I think that's added stress. You know, there's no 65 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: substitute for cube against this big engine big vehicle or 66 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: big engine little vehicle. And I think that's the formula 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: for success. And it just runs and it wins, optical, 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: the supercharged engines, Mark you're singing, My, you're in the 69 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: right church, right pew. Are they a concern or should 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: I be not concerned with that? Absolutely? I think longevity, 71 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's there. I think you'll get one 72 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: hundred thousand out of most of these things, and then 73 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: after that, you know, and then the problem becomes. You know, 74 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: we've had more than a few one hundred and fifty, 75 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty thousand mile forward explorers and things 76 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: like that that have come apart and require exhaust manifolds 77 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: at higher mileage, and you know, you're pulling engines, you're 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: pulling turbo chargers apart, you're you know, and everything is, 79 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: everything is hard hardened together now because it's gone through 80 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: so many heat cycles. Of getting it apart is ridiculous. 81 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: So I think simple non turbocharged, non supercharged, you know, 82 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: basic big v IT engines. We're not worried about fuel 83 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: economy at this point in the game so much, and 84 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: just good, steady, reliable power. Are you kind of been good? 85 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: And I see I see a few for less than 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: thirty thousand with heated seats and trailer packages, and we 87 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: like whatever we get it won't pull a heavy load, 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: but a lawnmower, trailer, small camper boat. We have a 89 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: big pickup in semis for a bigger towing needs. Thanks 90 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: for your knowledge, Mark, I think you're on the right 91 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: right track. Go Bison. He concludes with I think reliability 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: and longevity and simple. You know, my dad always said, 93 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: you want a simple white refrigerator. The light goes on, 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: the light goes out, it keeps food called. You don't 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: need the rest of the nonsense. And you know, I 96 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: think Dad's right, Although I do like heated seats in 97 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: a vehicle, and I like where you're going. My twenty 98 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: twenty two Chevy Silverado is a six six V eight 99 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: sixty six or six two. I think it's a sixty 100 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: six now. And you know it's got everything in it 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: but heated seats, which okay, so I wear an extra 102 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: long pair of pants that day when it's called. But 103 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: it's got you know, tilt crews, power windows, power steering, obviously, 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, decent radio. What else do you need the 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: rest of the stuff, which really escalates the price of 106 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: a vehicle in this mechanic's opinion, raise the purchase price 107 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: to the point of impracticality and makes it well, I 108 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: won't say unaffordable, but makes it a little inaccessible, and 109 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: then sooner later it breaks. I like the vehicles you're 110 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: looking at. I'm not a real fan of the Ranger 111 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: mark though, to be honest, I think Ford has to 112 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: wake up and do something different. I'm waiting for the 113 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: day they put a V six in that Ranger with 114 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: no turbo, and I would snap one up right away, 115 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: and I bet everybody else would because to me, in 116 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: my head, that makes a perfect winning combination. A little 117 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: bit of a bigger engine, more cubic inches, less weight 118 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: than the bigger vehicle it's normally used to hauling around. 119 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: I think I think a V six Ford Ranger normally 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: asked parade it would be a big win for Ford. 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Let's see if they're smart enough to do it. But 122 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: that little four cylinder, the four cylinder Ranger is okay. 123 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a pain in the neck to service. 124 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: You have to pull the left front tire off every 125 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: time you change the oil filter is the easiest way 126 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: to get to it. And they should be. They should be. 127 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Whoever thought of that should be shot to shot and 128 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: hung out the dry. You know that guy's right up 129 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: there with the I really want to meet the engineer 130 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: from Ford that designed the one Leader Eco sport engine 131 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: where they run the timing belt through the crank case 132 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: and it gets covered in oil because they found out, 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: and they're finding out that rubber and timing belts and 134 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: oil doesn't go well together for engine longevity. So you 135 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: know you're on the right path, kiddo, all right. I 136 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: like the Colorado. I like the newer Colorados, the right 137 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: up through model year twenty two, I think was a 138 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: V six, no turbo charger. I think they were decent vehicles. 139 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: And I think if I had a choice between a 140 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: Colorado and a Ranger right now, I'd probably go with 141 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: that Colorado because of the engine choice. And no, I 142 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: don't think you're missing looking at any other vehicles. I 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: think you're fine in the choices in the market that 144 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: you're in, and I think you'll find something you'll like. 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: Let me know what happens. I'm always curious, so I'm 146 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: always looking to hear so. But if that doesn't do 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: it for you, Mark, give me a call a five 148 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: to five five six zero nine nine zero zero, drop 149 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: me a line. We can talk about this again, and 150 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: thanks for all you do being a farmer out there 151 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: and feeding all of us. Let's get back to the 152 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: phones and see if Brian is back. Brian, We're gonna 153 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: try this one more time. Brian, you there right, yes, yes, sir, okay, good, 154 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: I think that was Tom. I really but we'll we'll, we'll, we'll, 155 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: I'll get, I'll get I'll get in with him after 156 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: the show. So what can I do for you today? 157 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: Jede, Hey, I get a question. I've always been a 158 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: sedan guy. I've driven Forwards for a lot of years, 159 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: basically tauruses infusions, you know. As you know a couple 160 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: of years ago, Forward pretty much discontinued cars with the 161 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: exception of the Mustang YEP, and especially in the American market, 162 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: getting a mid size Sadan is almost impossible now, so 163 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: I may have to just go the suv route. I 164 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: had questions about the only one I saw that seemed 165 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: like it was a half decent price if you consider 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: that as the Escape Yep. I just wanted your get 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: your thoughts on that, because you know, it seems like 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: if I want an American vehicle, Ford, It'll have to 169 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: be an suv. If I'm not getting a Mustang. 170 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: So, you know. Yeah, and I'm not a Mustang fan either. 171 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't I don't like sitting 172 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: in them. I can't see out the back window. I 173 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: was never you know, and I like Ford. I think 174 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: I think you're on the right path. I think the 175 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Escape's a good vehicle. Truth be told, my wife just 176 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: got done with her turned behind the wheel of an 177 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: Explorer for the past six years, and we've moved on 178 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: to something else just for the sake of change. It 179 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: was just time, you know, great vehicle. I can't say 180 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: anything bad about it. Unfortunately, the Explorers just got recalled 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: this week for body parts falling off, which I just 182 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: was fortuitous timing on my part, although I didn't really 183 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: know what was coming, you know. And then you talk 184 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: about the Escape. I think the Escape's a decent vehicle. 185 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: We've had more than a few in the family. We 186 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: still have one in the family fleet right now. We 187 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: see more than a few of them at the shop. 188 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: I think they were a pretty rock solid vehicle. I 189 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't go older than twenty nineteen. The seventeens and eighteens 190 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: had issues with cylinder heads and engine blocks during assembly, 191 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: but most of those problems. To my knowledge, we don't 192 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: see those issues anymore. But they were having problems with 193 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: coolant and head gasket failures and Ford was buying them back. 194 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: And Ford did do the right thing. They bought back 195 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: a lot of them and you know, gave customers full 196 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: credit for the time driven and put them in newer vehicles. 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: I hear a lot of good stories about that time period. 198 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: I think the current generation Escape is a great vehicle. 199 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: We see very very few problems with them. My engineer Tom, 200 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, he's driving an older Escape, 201 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: a twenty fifteen that defies logic because he's got I 202 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: don't know, four hundred thousand miles on it now or 203 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: somewhere there. He's probably in the three eighty to four 204 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: hundred thousand range. 205 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: And that's a rein endorsement. 206 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that it just now. Tom does a lot of 207 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: highway driving and you know he just you know, he'll 208 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: be on the road tomorrow to put five hundred miles 209 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: to go to East Jibiban back in two days. But yeah, 210 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: just just real matter of fact, I'll say it like this. 211 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: Tom called me this week. He was somewhere and I 212 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: don't know Baltimore or someplace, and the rear hatch wouldn't open, 213 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: and he wanted to know what I thought. I said, Tom, 214 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I said, for all the escapes we see, I've never 215 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: had a back door panel apart, they just don't break. 216 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: I said, I think there's something else going on here. 217 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: Sure enough, he got home and after the ride home, 218 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: something jiggled loose and the door finally came open and 219 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: he had a glove stuck in the door latch or 220 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: the little striker, and you know it's they're decent vehicles, 221 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: they really are. I would go for the two Leader. 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: I would go for the bigger engine again, bigger engine, 223 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: small car, you know, less strain, more durability, and the 224 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: two Leaders a whole lot easier to work on in 225 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: terms of just basic stuff. The oil change on the 226 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: one point five is a little bit of a pain 227 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: in the net because of the way they got the 228 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: filter housing where they've got it located next to the 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: oil cooler tubes and the AC lines. But that two Leader, 230 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: you know, we see one hundred and fiftywo hundred thousand 231 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: miles out of those things all day long. The downfall, 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: you don't want the transmission to break that's five grand, 233 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: and we've seen it all right. The steering rack like 234 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: anything else. Electric steering nowadays it's a couple of grand, Okay, 235 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: no big deal. Two thousand bucks. Three thousand bucks is 236 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: not a big repair on a car anymore. And you know, 237 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: when you do your services, you're thirty or sixty years 238 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: ninety change the rear differential fluid. Nobody does. Nobody understands 239 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: that there's less than a quart of gur oil in 240 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: the back of those things, and a lot of differentials 241 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: get done. You know when they get higher, mile is 242 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: ninety to one hundred grand on them and they come apart. 243 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: If I could ask you why or is it just 244 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: a demand that people don't want Saedan's and they want 245 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: SUVs because it's like the foreign market. 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you know, you know, Brian, I 247 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: think one of the nicest riding cars ever. I love 248 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: it every time one comes in the shop is an 249 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: old school Lincoln town Car. My god, that thing just 250 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: floats going down the road and just just a nice 251 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: riding vehicle. 252 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: I had cave it's the same thing. 253 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it's I like a big Sedan, 254 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: but you know it listen, car companies aren't that bright. Okay, 255 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: they took away the station wagon because people didn't want these, 256 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, big eight passenger vehicles, and within five years, 257 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: guess what they brought back Big suburbans. Big suburbans which 258 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: are eight passenger vehicles, but they cost more and they 259 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: sit higher. So you figure it out, all right, Ketto, 260 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: I got to go m up against the clock. All right, sir, 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: be well, and if you need anything else, you know 262 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: where to find me. You're very welcome. I'm Ronning Andy, 263 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: and the car doctor will be back right after this. 264 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Don't go away. He drives that way. But when it 265 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: comes to fixing cars, Ron has car advice done right 266 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine to nine zero zero. 267 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: Here's Ron. So I've got a moral dilemma for you, 268 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: or a moral dilemma question. And I'd like to hear 269 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: back from my repair shops out there to see what 270 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: they think, what would they do in this situation, because 271 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure they've faced it too. Twenty seventeen Subaru came 272 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: into the shop this week with a P zero four 273 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: fifty five large evapp leak evapp systems. You know we've 274 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: talked about this here, you know, the evaporative emission system 275 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: is basically controlling the fumes from the gasoline in the 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: tank to make sure it doesn't vent to the atmosphere, 277 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: and through a series of solenoids and controls, they regulate 278 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: where it goes and when it goes and so forth. 279 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: But the computer needs to know that the system has integrity. 280 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: The computer needs to know that the system is sealed, 281 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: So at select times, under right conditions, it will run 282 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: its monitor, its self test to make sure that the 283 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: system has integrity, that the balloon is solid, right, that 284 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: there's no leaks. So this one set a p zero 285 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: four to fifty five large leak, which they measure the leak. 286 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's volume of leak over time. If 287 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: it leaks x over time, then it's a four point 288 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: fifty five. If it leaks x. If it leaks why 289 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: over time, it might be a four to forty two 290 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: a small leak. And it's all rated in inches of vacuum. 291 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Which we're not going to get involved in that because 292 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: that's not pertinent to the conversation. So out of twenty seventeen, 293 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: subar Rup zero four to fifty five. Now, the rule 294 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: of thumb is, you know, you want to look the 295 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: vehicle over, do a visual. I did a visual, and 296 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: I found the gas cap loose. But it had been 297 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,479 Speaker 2: two weeks since the customer called to make the appointment 298 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: so that they could get in, and you know, in 299 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: two weeks time, really they filled up. You know, I asked, 300 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: they had filled up twice since they called, and each 301 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: time the gas cap was left loose. Is it a 302 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: coincidence or isn't it? Or is it just sloppy gas 303 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: station attendant? Here's the moral dilemma. Do you stop? Do 304 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: you keep going? You know, do you run more tests? 305 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to be able to hand the key 306 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: back to the customer and say your car's fixed? I 307 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: ran all the tests. I ran a service bayed test, 308 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: I smoked it. I did whatever I had to do. 309 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: You know, it was just a gas cap. And I 310 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: don't say just because finding that gas cap sometimes is 311 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: a difficult problem. In this case, I found it fairly quickly. 312 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: I tested it. It's quick enough, all right. You know, 313 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: we got out our smoke pro courtesy of the folks 314 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: over their red line diagnot red line detection, and you 315 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: know we were able to smoke the system really quick 316 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: and determined that, yeah, the event that we were able 317 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: to block the vent, the system had integrity that the 318 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: gas cap screwed on stopped the thing from leaking. I 319 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: didn't like the way the gas cap sealed though, you know, 320 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: you could see that, you could feel the ratchet wasn't 321 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: you know, it didn't have that sharp click to it. 322 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: So I put a gas cap on it. And you know, 323 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: even with a gas cap, smoked it again. And you know, 324 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: we spent our normal diagnostic time that we allotted. We 325 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: spent the time we quoted the customer, and I was 326 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: able to hand the keys back to Dave and go, Dave, 327 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: here's the deal. Here's what I found. And I said 328 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: I could have stopped, and he said, no, I'd rather 329 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: know that you checked it out. He said, I understand 330 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: some people wouldn't want to, they wouldn't want to spend them. 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: But he said, I'd understand you'd have to charge me 332 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: something anyway, because your time is worth something. And he's right, 333 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: and I get it, and I really appreciate a customer 334 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: like that, as most of my customers are. And I 335 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: put the question to you, what would you do? Do 336 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: you do nothing? Do you hand it back to the 337 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: customer and say, hey, if the like comes back on, 338 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's a moral dilemma. Your job is to 339 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: fix cars. I've had more than a few in my 340 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: career where I've found two problems that would cause the 341 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: same condition on the same vehicle, for the same symptom 342 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: and same ticket, all in the same afternoon, And you 343 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: know it's one solution, does not always a repair make 344 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: as the saying goes. We had a Hyundai a while back, 345 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Akia that had had a fuel tank replaced 346 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: in it, and you always think it's going to be 347 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: complicated and twisted and evolved, and this is why I 348 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: say it's your obligation to check the vehicle out. And 349 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: after several repair attempts by other shops, multiple others shops, 350 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: I smoked it and I found a very small leak 351 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: where the purge line meets the line going to the 352 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: tank underneath the vehicle. You wouldn't see it from up above. 353 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: And I smoked it, and you know I was able to. 354 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: And one of the nice things about the smoke pro is, 355 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the speed pro speed smoke. I'll get it 356 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: right then. One of the nice things about the speed 357 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Smoke is that it will allow you to regulate air 358 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: flowing and pressure, so you can go full pressure, full smoke, 359 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: you can go partial. And by applying maximum pressure, maximum 360 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: smoke to it, I was able to find the leaks 361 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: where the purge and the tank line came together and 362 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: find the leak that nobody else because they hadn't pushed click, 363 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: they hadn't pushed the two lines together, they hadn't put 364 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: it on a safety lock. Now that's another vehicle that 365 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: had a fillerneck issue. Because that was a capitalist system, 366 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: it had a fillerneck issue. Had I not tested it, 367 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 2: I never would have found the second problem. And that 368 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: brings me back to this where this conversation started. You know, 369 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: as a shop obligated, we're gonna tell you, hey, we're 370 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: going to spend an hour and go through the system. 371 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: Is it right for the shop to spend that hour? 372 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: I say yes, I say diagnose know in confidence that 373 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: the vehicles repaired and that the customer is going to 374 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: be happy when they don't see the light again and 375 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: they have to come back. You tell me your side 376 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: of the story. Shoot me a line ron at cardoctorshow 377 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: dot com. I'll be back right after this. Come back 378 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: want any of the car. Doctor. Let's let's go back 379 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: to oron WARN's back from Louisiana. Oran, what's going on 380 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: with this vehicle today? 381 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, get up to new Man. Hey, I got 382 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: catching up with me. So last week we had spoken 383 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: about this vehicle and you we essentially kind of wrap 384 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: it up with how you'd ask me to, you know, 385 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: re scan it. So anyway re scanned it, I'll give 386 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: you the codes that we can go from there. So 387 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm still having the uh it was a P zero 388 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: three hundred through three oh six miss far in all 389 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: cylinders and P zero zerr one six piezerre zero one seven. 390 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: There's also a P zero one four one one. So 391 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: nothing has changed in that verson. Okay, I did change. 392 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: I did change. So the camshaft position sensors were changed, oh, 393 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, a month and a half ago or so, 394 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: the I changed the crank shaft position sensor yesterday, still crank, 395 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: no start. So that's pretty much what I've got for you, man. 396 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: All right, So you know, I think the ones that 397 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: our key are the two crank are the two cam faults, 398 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: all right, because an out of time, an out of 399 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: time cam shaft will cause a misfire. All right, you've 400 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: got one six one seven that's left side, right side, 401 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: and what was the other? What was you got lean codes? Correct? Yeah, 402 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: one right, and a lean lean fuel control problems will 403 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: also be caused by an out of time cam shaft. 404 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 2: So camp camp is well yet, So I would focus 405 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: on camposition sensors first, So you know, can we verify 406 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, what are we using for a scan tool? 407 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: What do we have? Do we have your make model 408 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: or is it just O B D two? 409 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bi directional, but I can get a 410 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: bi directional scanner. I got a buddy of mine who's 411 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: actually I've actually had in those house now to we'll 412 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: pick it up right. 413 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking you've got a an 414 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: out of time cam one or both? Uh. The sensors 415 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: that were put in the car for the camp position 416 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: sensors where they oe or were they after market or 417 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: whered they fall out of the shelf. 418 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: From they're they're they're bossed there? 419 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know I would if you've got 420 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: a way, I'm trying to think of a way you 421 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: could try and check mechanical timing on that engine without 422 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: having to tear into it. And this was the vehicle 423 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: that if I recall right, it started one day and 424 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: then or you want to have to start it one 425 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: day and it just wouldn't start. I don't remember how 426 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: this failure occurred. Refreshed my memory. 427 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: Yes, there, yeah, So the vehicle had been running, they're 428 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: running to the past, you know, for the past year 429 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: or so. And about a month ago I drove somewhere, 430 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: get out an hour or so later, go to crank 431 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 3: it back up, pranks, no start and that was that 432 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: was essentially what happened. And had it tow it back 433 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: to my house and and here we are. So yeah, 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: I did uh. I did change the cancel position sensors. 435 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: I also did change the uh the camshaft of the 436 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: actual cylinoid magnet siloid magnets. I have not done is 437 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: that top dead center tests where I guess where you 438 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: put the You go to the cam shot the crank 439 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: shaft to zero degrees of degrees top dead center to 440 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: check to check the c if the the cams are 441 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: actually in time a little window. 442 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Right. What you have to do is if if if 443 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: I remember right and look up the procedure, I think 444 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: it's you have to put the crank at three hundred 445 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: and five degrees, and that will put that will put 446 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: the cams at top, and you're going to pop the 447 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: cam sensors out, and there's a round mark that has 448 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: to line up with a mark inside the cover because 449 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna find one of the cams is 450 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: mechanically out of time. Look it's it's let's let's back 451 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: up a second. Why did you change the sensors. Did 452 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: you change the sensors as an attempt to fix the 453 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: problem or was it for something else and then the 454 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: problem occurred? 455 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: Now it was an attempt to fix the problem. I had, 456 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: uh the p Yre zero one six one seven, it 457 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: was circuit a high as initially what I had, you know, 458 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: doing some reading between the relation of the crank shap 459 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: position censor and the camshap position sensors. I said, okay, 460 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: well let me change the bank one exhaust and intake 461 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: cam magnets and the sense So that's that's that's how 462 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: I rote that quote unquote solution. 463 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there's a there's gonna be a round market. 464 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: If memory serves me right, You're gonna and there's there's 465 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: there's two or four censors. There's four sensors here, correct, Yes, sir, Okay, 466 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna bring it around. I believe it's 467 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: the crank has to be three. I think the crank 468 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: is three hundred and five degrees. I remember that. I 469 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: always thought it was the three hundred five cube begins 470 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: small block Chevy. That's another conversation how my mind works. 471 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: But you're gonna find I think it's got to be 472 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: three oh five. And then you're gonna find that the 473 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 2: cam sprockets. There's gonna be a hole in the center, 474 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: and that hole is going to be it's it's stamped, 475 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: and you'll see it has to line up with that 476 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: round stamp and the and the mark inside the cover. 477 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: And I bet you're gonna find one of those is 478 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: off and that's and that's the and that and then 479 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: you've got to figure out why was it a mechanical failure? 480 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: Did the chain jump? Right? 481 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: You know? 482 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: But I would focus on that. Listen, it's always the same, right, 483 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: Let's let's build a simpler engine. Uh, you know, Let's 484 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: let's make a good, solid and basic before we get 485 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: any deeper in where we're going. Yeah, okay, you know 486 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: Now if you find that the cam is in center 487 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: and doing what it's supposed to do, and all all 488 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: the cams line up in their correct relation to the crank, 489 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: and I would do it twice. If you have any doubts, 490 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: then we've got to think about do we have proper 491 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: signal out of those cam sensors. And now you're gonna 492 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: have to go get a scope. We're gonna have to 493 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: trigger that off. We're gonna have to look at cam 494 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: crank timing electrically to see what the computer is interpreting. 495 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: But got to make sure things are correct mechanically first. 496 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, do you think a bi directional scan 497 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: of what would help in this situation? Are just strictly 498 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: or as ob two will. 499 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: It's always nice to have bi directional option, you know, 500 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: on the chance well for example, you know, when you 501 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: finally get this thing running, if if the question is 502 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: geared towards do I think it's worth your while to 503 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: own one? My answer is yes. But you're talking to 504 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: a guy who thinks, you know, he who dies with 505 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: the most tools wins. All right, you know it's it's 506 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: always nice to have as a learning capability, you know, 507 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: we always wait till the car is broken to start 508 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: diagnosing it, I get a new vehicle in the shop. Yeah, 509 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: I get a new vehicle in the shop. I always 510 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot time because I sit there and I'll advance cams, 511 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: I'll i'll play with actuator controls. I'll look and I'll 512 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: see what service bay tests are available to me, because 513 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: I just I just want to know the car, you know, 514 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: I want to know that car line until I get 515 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: to know it better. So you know, here'd be a 516 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: great case of you know, if I command the left 517 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: bank two degrees and the right bank two degrees, what 518 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: does it actually move? Well, this one goes two degrees, 519 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: this one goes one degree, this one goes forward degrees. Gee, 520 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: do have a problem with the timing chain on the 521 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: right side? How many miles are on the car? And 522 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, if I can start to learn cause and 523 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: effect and reaction, I'm not saying it's real scientific, but 524 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: it can motivate me to maybe pull covers apart and 525 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: look at timing and mechanical timing and see that long 526 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: stretched timing chain on that three hundred thousand mile engine 527 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: before it fails and leaves me out in the middle 528 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: of bug tussle, right, you know, so yeah, I vote 529 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: for Yeah, I go buy you know, go buy more 530 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: and more is always better, all right when it comes 531 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: to a scan tool. So best answer I got your 532 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: pocketbook won't like me, but you will so oh. 533 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I can't disagree with that. Well, thank you again, Wrong. 534 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: You too, sir, you'd be well yeah, listen, it's it's 535 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: it's it's all about it's all about having tools and 536 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: the ability because the days of not having tooling. I'll 537 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: tell you what, I got a great story before the 538 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: end of the hour. So let's pull over and take 539 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: a pull. I'm ronning any in the Car Doctor. I'll 540 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: be back right after this and we're back. Welcome back, 541 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: Ron and any the car Doctor here at the phone 542 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: numbers eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 543 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Give us a call. Remember that's the Car Doctor's twenty 544 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: four to seven phone number, and you can call there 545 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: if we're not on the air, leave a message and 546 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: we'll get back to you and we'll put you in 547 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: the Q for the next live broadcast. Let's do an email, 548 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: a couple of emails here. Good morning, Ron. We purchased 549 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: a used twenty twenty one super Brew Forester in October 550 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: of twenty three. It has twenty three hundred miles on it. 551 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: We've put about five hundred and fifty cents. Living in Maine. 552 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: We decided to keep it off the road unless it's dry, 553 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: since the car is in good condition. Hoped to be 554 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: the last vehicle. What do you recommend on times and 555 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: distances for running it? I mean, listen, use it, enjoy it. 556 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry about times and distances. If you don't 557 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: use it, it's going to go bad anyway, So drive 558 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: the car. We had an appointment for undercoding at a 559 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: local shop but canceled the due to the weather. You 560 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: use the product called value Guard, a permanent undercoding guaranteed 561 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: for eight years. So much for permanent. What's your opinion 562 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: on that you know undercoding? I think is it's a 563 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: thing of the past in my opinion, you know, and 564 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: I like, and I really like more and more the 565 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: product from New Hampshire Oil undercoating. And the one thing 566 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: that NHOU products bring to the table is they will 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: you know, they will spread. I really like the fact 568 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: that you can spray Nhou into a corner of the 569 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: vehicle and come back to it three months later during 570 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: a service or an oil change or something, and see 571 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: how much further the oil has spread as it works 572 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: its way into the pores of the undercarriage of the vehicle. 573 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: So if it were up to me, I would opt 574 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: for NHOIL undercoding product. NHOIL undercoding dot com is the 575 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: website you want to go to. The email continues, prior 576 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: to twenty one, we were in desperate need of a 577 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: vehicle and board a twenty fourteen superrew faster. The exhaust 578 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: needs to be replaced. What do you recommend for that? 579 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's two things. It's a year aftermarket. I 580 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: can tell you the OE the original equipment stuff. You're 581 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: probably going to spend better than for forty five hundred 582 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: dollars to put exhaust on that suber up. And you 583 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: know that's a hard pill to swallow, especially on an 584 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: older vehicle like that. And in that case, I would 585 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: just turn to the aftermarket. Get yourself out to get 586 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: out to the autos Own website and take a look 587 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: at look up exhaust there and I'm sure you'll find 588 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: something very price competitive, probably half that price, maybe a 589 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: third that price from the folks over at AutoZone, and 590 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: you know you can then take it to your local 591 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: shop and have it installed, and know that you're getting 592 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: something that's going to come with a warranty and built 593 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: the last. It'll it'll it'll have a quality fit and 594 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 2: it's built the last and built to work. The email continues, 595 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: My husband has an older Ford pickup truck and he 596 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: is in need of a coolant service. But we're just 597 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: a bit confused. We were trying to figure out what 598 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: coolant to putting it, you know, and this comes from 599 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: Scott and Deb. You know deb coolant on a Ford 600 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: vehicle in the last five years has really gotten confusing 601 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: in the sense that they've changed it. Now you're saying 602 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: that this is an older Ford truck. You don't see 603 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: what year, but I will say it like this, if 604 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: this is somewhere around a circa two thousand and nine 605 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: twenty ten Ford pickup, you were using gold coolant what 606 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: we knew as gold coolant from Ford. If you are 607 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 2: driving something newer as it progresses and gets newer than 608 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: the than the gold Ford pickup trucks became orange and 609 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: then somewhere around twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen Ford 610 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: decided to switch because it was an orange and a 611 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: green coolant, which I haven't discussed here yet today, and 612 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 2: there was an orange and a green coolant that became yellow. 613 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: The yellow replaces orange and green. The gold is gold, 614 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: and that stays that way, and that goes back. The 615 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: gold coolant goes back time immemorial. It probably covers easily 616 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: fifteen years of Ford product back back into the late nineties, 617 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: and then coming forward after that, you've got either orange 618 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: or green. All the orange and green became yellow. Now, 619 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: if this is confusing, and I realize it can be, 620 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: what you need to do is get out to the 621 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: AutoZone website AutoZone dot com. I'm going to refer to 622 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: them again and you will find that just type in 623 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: Peak Peak Coolant right, and you will find they list 624 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: all the correct coolants for every vehicle. And then you 625 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: can go and search for your forward. And the nice 626 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: thing about Peak and the way AutoZone lays it out 627 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: for you is it will tell you this fits this 628 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: model year forward, this fits these model year forwards, and 629 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: so on right down the line, and then you can 630 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: pick your coolant. You know, the AutoZone website, the way 631 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: it's constructed is not just hey, we have these parts 632 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: for this much. It's also a source gide of correct 633 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: application and you have to remember that. And that's what's 634 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: so great about their website, different from so many others. 635 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: So you'll find that at AutoZone dot com. All right. 636 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: If you have any more questions, deb you know where 637 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: to find me, you and Scott, you know, or you 638 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: could give us a call at A five five five 639 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. Anyway, let me pull over, 640 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: take a pause. I'm ronnin Ady and the car Doctor 641 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: and we'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 642 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: I hate it when you play that music at the 643 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: end of the show. You know, I want to get 644 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: up and dance like that at the beginning of the show. Tom, Yeah, 645 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: I hate it too because I have to watch you dance. Well, yeah, 646 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: you know what I've been working on my abbs. See, 647 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: I've got a six pack now, so we all have 648 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: a six pack inside. It just takes a while to 649 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: bring so do I because you know I need it 650 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: when I do the show. Right, you're drinking, I understand. 651 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about tools, all right, 652 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: And you know we always you know, we don't have 653 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: the right tools to fix the car. And I thought 654 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: I'd closed the show today with this, you know, real 655 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: stuff from the bays. That's what you guys seem to like. 656 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: We had a twenty seventeen f two fifty four pick 657 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: them up truck in the shop this week that, you know, 658 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: for all the goofy things I've had to deal with 659 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: as a boss with employees. And I've always said I've 660 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 2: generally always had good employees. And some of them are 661 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: a little funny though. And this is a landscaping truck 662 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know what possessed the employees to do this, 663 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: but the boss said, go wash the truck, and they did, 664 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: but he didn't mean for them to take the pressure 665 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: washer and wash the inside of the truck the cab. 666 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: Do you know how much water it takes to go 667 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: inside of a fuse box of a body module to 668 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: get the truck to shut off? Not much? And oh boy, 669 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: uh there was water everywhere. And you know when we 670 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: took the body module out and basically drained water out 671 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: of it, I said, yeah, that's probably bad. That's that's 672 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: no good. So we got a new body module out 673 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: of Ford and we had to Now we have to 674 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: flash it, now understand on a like on a lot 675 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: of vehicles, the body module, which a body module is 676 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: considered a master module in Ford in Ford world, all right, 677 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: it's it's one of the ones that everybody talks to. 678 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: The PCM talks to it, the analog breake control unit 679 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: talks to it, the airbag unit talks to it. It's 680 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: a master module. It's the head. It's the head honcho 681 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: on the network, all right. So it's really critical. And 682 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: it's more than just a spot where they bolt the 683 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: fuse box too. It's basically the brains of the operation. 684 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: It's telling everybody what to do. And one of the 685 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: things that they do with this is they have the 686 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: security codes and the immobilizer feature, meaning if you put 687 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: the wrong key in the lock cylinder and turn it, 688 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: the vehicle won't start because it won't recognize the digital 689 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: code off. The key is interpreted through the digital part 690 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 2: of the security code's part of the body module. So 691 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: you've got to reflash the body module. But you have 692 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: to have security access all right in order to do this, 693 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: all right, NaSTA North American Security Task Force, Okay, I 694 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: believe is what it stands for and we're actually going 695 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: to we're actually talking to uh. I think it's don 696 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: Safe Safer sefer about coming on doing an interview talking 697 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: about the security requirements of vehicles. But I got to 698 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: tell you it's it's amazing what's out there. Because with 699 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: the combination of our Opus we used our Opus ivs 700 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: once again to the rescue, reflash the body module. We 701 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: are able to get a one day license through Nastiff 702 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: to look at security and look at the immobilizer and 703 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: we were able to reflash the vehicle. We dried out 704 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: the interior, give it back to the customer and it worked. 705 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: So you got to have tools, you got to have connections, 706 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: you got to have the Internet in order to run 707 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 2: a shop. Today, I'm running Andy in the car doctor. 708 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: That about does it for me until the next time. 709 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See y