WEBVTT - Beating the Book: COVID-19 Edition featuring Rufus Peabody and Roxy Roxborough 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:11.640 Check it down, man Now Down. Then it's the Beating 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.160 the Book Podcast Jill alex Bandy Today another edition of 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.880 the pod, It's no odd one if you will, focused 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:23.320 around the coronavirus itself. Rufus Peabody professional better who announced 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.000 last week via Twitter that he had tested positive for 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.600 COVID nineteen. He walks us through his experience from when 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.280 he first figured out that there was a problem to 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.640 how he feels now and all the steps in between, 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.840 including the testing itself. I think it's a story well 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.000 worth hearing, might normalize it for some folks given these 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.760 very strange times. And then Roxy Roxburro from Pouquette, Thailand 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.000 with his perspective on everything, not just sports betting wise, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.640 what I'm talking about the virus itself as someone who 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.880 has lived through different periods in this world, War times 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.160 for instance, and how folks reacted then how they are 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.920 reacting now. It's an interesting edition of the Beating the 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.440 Book Podcast, an odd one in odd times. I hope 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:13.039 you enjoy it. Number less Welcome back to a Numbers 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:18.520 game with Jill Alexander. It is Kill Alexander live from 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.840 San Francisco on a Numbers game visa the sports betting network. Um, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.760 this will have very little to do with sports or 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.160 sports betting. I don't know. Maybe we'll stray there somehow, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:33.080 But this is just about someone that I'm concerned about, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.560 though he's going to alleviate those concerns, I think momentarily. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.199 But just a friend who announced last week on Twitter 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.560 that he had tested positive for the coronavirus, and we 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.840 just want to get a whole story about that update 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.200 his health and just sort of walk us through the 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.960 whole process there. He is looking good. It's uh, one 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.200 of the two or three most successful sports bettors I know. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.840 Looking good, Rufus Peabody. How you doing, man, I'm doing well. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.400 You probably just don't know enough sports bettters. Maybe I don't, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.240 I don't know. It's very modest of you. So look, man, um, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.240 first of all, let's start at the end. How are 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.840 you feeling right now? I'm feeling great. I'm a percent 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.760 I've been symptom free for almost just about two weeks 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.160 at this point. I guess the only symptom that lingered 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.560 was the sort of dulling of my sense of taste, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.040 which you know, it's mostly back now. I'm not I'm 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.079 not sure if it's all the way back, but it's based. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.520 I mean, you know, I can I can taste little 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.400 wine taste like again, rather than the pino I had 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.000 last week, which um, I thought it had turned or something. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.280 And my fiance was like, this tastes great. You know, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.840 this was a nice bottle of pino that we've gotten 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.920 when we were in Sonoma, and and I was like 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:50.959 this is it tastes like vinegar? But um, but taste 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.359 is an abstract thing, isn't it like you almost will 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.680 forget what it was like? You're not sure if it's 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.440 all the way back kind of thing. Can we let's 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.440 start at the big inning, if we could rupus because 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.799 you're like fourteen days quarantine. Now you're at the fourteen 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.160 day mark. I think today I was released today. By 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.800 the way, I'm allowed to be allowed to go free. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.280 So you got I got a call from fourteen days 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.880 I have. So I was out of the apartment last 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.840 Tuesday to get tested. And I guess before that, I 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.760 had the first week before I knew I was positive, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.600 I had taken trips to the grocery store. Um. But 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.560 aside from that, um, and that was before I had 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.840 any idea I had coronavirus. Obviously, if I once once 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.040 I had a sense that I might have it, I 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.680 obviously stayed inside and didn't go to the grocery store. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.080 But yeah, it was basically, um, I mean it was. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.800 It was a full week without leaving the apartment. And uh, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.440 I guess before that another five days before that where 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.880 I basically left only to go to the grocery store. Okay, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.680 let's let's start at the beginning, because I think we're 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.960 getting ahead of ourselves. What was the what was the 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.720 first moment? I mean, did you feel it? Did you 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.640 have a symptom? Did you hear that someone close to 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.120 you had it? Um? How did this begin for you? 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.400 So I guess, and how it actually began, I think 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.440 is different. Um in retrospect. So I was traveling. I 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.599 was in California forum for this sort of professional betters 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.880 ski trip thing um. And then when I was in 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.200 Colorado for a wedding and went skiing with some friends 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.040 in Veil uh, and then came back to Boston for 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.640 the Sloan Sports Salelis conference. And I didn't sleep well 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.040 that Wednesday night, and so I Thursday I felt well, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.480 but I just felt tired. Um, I don't know if 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.359 that in retrospect now I'm like, maybe I had it 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.440 and didn't know. Um, I don't know. Um, but Saturday 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.440 morning is the first I really felt like off. I mean, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.440 I had I had this headache. Um, but I had 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.039 been out late Friday night. Um. It is the Sloan 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.920 Sports Analytics Conference. People do go out kind of hard 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.400 and so Friday night was a late night. So Saturday, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.960 I mean, I thought I was just a little hungover. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.560 I didn't think anything of it, and I felt, you know, fatigued. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.680 But I just was like, well, you know, I had 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.760 a late night, I have a headache. Um that's it. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.960 That was the extent of the symptoms at that point. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.400 And just felt like kind of lethargic. But on Sunday 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.520 the headache, uh was a little bit worse. Uh. You know, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.000 I I felt I sort of had the chills on 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.440 Sunday a little bit. Um so, probably a slight fever. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.640 I didn't take my temperature or anything. But my fiancee 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:32.200 got sick that um, I guess she she got sick 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:37.200 on and I guess Monday afternoon and was was home 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.640 from from work that entire week. And that's when I 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:45.080 you know, I sort of realized. I guess that, um, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.120 you know, maybe I was maybe I had given it 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.279 to her, and obviously that that that's what happened, that 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.039 you had given it to her. I'm sure I've been traveling. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.279 She hadn't been traveling or anything. And I from what 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.640 somebody told me, veil was actually kind of the hotbed 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.280 it's in terms of within Colorado. So the coronavirus and 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.680 you know, I've been on I've been on planes. I 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.480 had been you know, with you know, with a bunch 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.320 of people. I mean, there's I'm sure I got it 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.040 somewhere in my travels. Does she still want to get 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.880 married to you? Even after that? And she's still in, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.960 she's all in, you know, the quarantine has been Uh, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.280 it's it's it's tested us a little bit, but she's yeah, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.480 we're still it's still a little young about if you 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.880 can get through this rufus, you can get through it all. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.839 Congratulations to you, by the way, on that I should 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:40.920 say on your on your pending nuptials. Um, so okay, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.760 So you then I guess you're like, okay, well I 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.640 gotta get tested. So this is also very vague because 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.400 we talk about this in media all the time. Oh, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.520 they're getting testos. So what do you do? Do you 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.160 walk up? And I'm not trying to well, maybe I'm 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.919 trying to be funny, but maybe I'm not. Where did 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.760 you just walk in somewhere and you're like, Hey, I'm 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.200 rufus peabody, I'm awesome at NFL props. Where's my test? Like? Weird? 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.040 You like, how do you get it? Because it's not 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.920 readily available to everybody. I don't believe, right, I don't 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.159 think I, in retrospect, probably didn't need to be tested 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.320 because I wasn't really showing symptoms. I think, you know, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:13.640 I said I had a little bit of a cough 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:18.440 because I had a mild cough. But I, um, you know, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.480 I got tested because my fiance as a doctor, and 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.360 so that was the protocol at the time. They wanted 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.240 me to get tested as well. Uh. And so you know, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.280 I went to mass General Hospital and they had they 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.400 turned a parking lot into sort of a testing area, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 and you know, I gave them my information and I 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.920 was in and out pretty quickly. But but I remember 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.200 when I was talking to them, they said that I 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.640 was one of the last people that was gonna be 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.800 tested that didn't really have sort of life threatening symptoms. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.880 They were just telling because they said, you know, this 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.960 is going to go through the population. We're just you know, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.880 people need to just stay at home if unless they 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.360 need medical attention. Wait, they said you were one of 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.680 the last people who did who wouldn't have life threatening symptoms. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.920 That what they said to you there was getting acid. Yeah, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.840 I mean at least there. I mean, I think a 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.680 lot of because they're having to prioritize the people that 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.600 that most need, you know, medical attention, most need this 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.600 test because you know they don't have that many tests. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.760 Can I can I ask a very ignorant question, what 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.560 is the test um? They stick this little swab up 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.320 your nose like and it feels like they're trying to 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.880 like poke through your brain. It's quite uncomfortable. They're do 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.440 un build nostrils. Yeah, so I can't they just can 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.480 they just take blood or something like a shot would 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.800 have been better. By the way, in in no form, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.679 like I've watched CNN or whatever media outlet NonStop for 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.400 the last you know, two weeks, NonStop. I've not heard 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.520 one person say they jam a swab up and try 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.240 to like, that's the test, that's that's terrible. So and 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.400 how quickly did you know your result? I didn't know 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.640 results until I think it was Saturing morning. But I 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.920 was pretty pretty damn sure that I was positive, even 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.240 the fact that I've been living with my fiance in 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.280 an apartment, so I mean, I knew, I knew. Yeah, 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.120 Ruth's doing me a favor. Can you hang out through 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.280 a break because I want to talk to you about 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.240 a little bit more about this. I know it's all 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.080 normal for you at this point, but it's all new 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.000 to us. Rufus Peabody kind enough to join us on 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.040 the show to give us his experience about testing positive 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.880 for the coronavirus. Will come back right here on a 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.640 numbers game at feast. Welcome back to a Numbers game 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:22.760 with you, Alexander. Normally Rufus Peabody has to sweat Jim 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.040 Furick on a championship Sunday. This was a much bigger 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.240 sweat in his life. A virus. I don't know, maybe, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.520 I mean, were you nervous at any point, Rufus, I 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.079 wasn't you know? My symptoms were mild. I'm very fortunate. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.880 I know a lot of other people have had had 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.920 it a lot worse than I have. I know, um, 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.959 other people in the betting community as well have. I mean, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.199 Spanky has mentioned on Twitter the symptoms he's had and 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.640 it sounds like he's had a real battle, but he's 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.240 coming out. Oh I didn't know that. All right, Well, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.640 well I gotta get with Spanky and see if he's 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:59.120 all right. Um So, so, look like you mentioned you 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.160 were at the Sloan Sports Conference, so you know, and 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.040 I'm not and I really am not trying to be funny, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.320 but the only thing I think about is, like you know, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.559 so many people's story in college, when there's a an STD, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.640 you have to contact all of your previous partners, like, hey, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.040 you know, just so you know, I tested positive for this, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.680 you may want to check too. Did you learn of 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.320 anyone at Sloan who ended up positive? Did you have 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.320 to contact people that you were in close proximity to? So, actually, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.840 one of the reasons I did get tested is because 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.280 I did go to the conference. I my fiancee told 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.200 the you know, the people she talked to public health 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.400 or you know, Um, I forget who it was, but 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.120 but I told them that I had been at this 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.080 this conference with a lot of people, and so I 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.960 think that's one reason they wanted me to get tested. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.920 And so after you know, that's why, and that is 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.760 the reason I did end up tweeting that out. And 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.440 before that, I told people that I thought I was 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.680 positive people that I have been in close proximity with 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.840 at Sloan And unfortunately a few of those people, UM, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.760 I think have have tested positive and you look like 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.440 they have it despite not having gotten tested. So UM, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.080 I feel I feel pretty bad about that I didn't. Obviously, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.680 if I had known that I had it, I would 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.760 not have UM, I would not have gone to the conference. Yeah, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.240 I think people are aware that you wouldn't have done 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.640 anything purposefully. I asked this of Roxy, your buddy Roxy 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.880 as well as my Roxy. Roxborro was on the show 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.760 from Thailand just before you, and I asked him because 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.320 he has obviously decades of experience that he's wise, and 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.160 I just wanted to get his perspective on what he's 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.040 you know, the thing that's impacted him the most from 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.040 all this, what's disappointed him the most about the world's 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.840 reaction to the pandemic, and he had some pretty poignant words. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.360 I'm just curious as a guy who tested positive and 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.000 is now hopefully all the way through this. What as 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.120 you from your perspective, which is a very unique one, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:52.040 as you look out at how Americans specifically, let's say, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.840 are reacting to this, anything jumped to mind for you, like, yeah, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.200 we could you know this is good? This isn't so 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.760 good kind of thing that we're doing well. I think 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.200 we needed to sort of address this earlier than we did. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.560 It seemed like the warning signs were all there, and 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.120 I know, um people there were. There's people I follow 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.800 on Twitter much smarter than myself, like like Ed Miller, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.240 who were tweeting out about um about uh, the seriousness 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.360 of this all the way back in late January and 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.959 early February. And so I think if we had sort 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.200 of learned from from what South Korea did and sort 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.160 of testing everybody uh and and tracking down where they've 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.560 been and everything like that, I think we could have 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.560 done a better job controlling this. But but it's hard. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.680 I mean, it's tough, and I think that what we're 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.640 doing now in terms of the sort of the stay 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.640 at home shelter and place stuff, UM is while it's 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.679 awful for the economy, I think it's it's probably necessary 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.200 at this point, but it is interesting that the sort 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.040 of trade off here with with public health versus versus 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.560 the economy. At this point, I feel like, um, I 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.560 know that I know Trump and some of the conservatives 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.480 have been talking about well as this, you know, the 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.120 you know, is it worth it? And I don't have 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.680 the answer that I mean, I think, but I do 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.719 think we need to be prioritizing how more than the 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.719 economy and hopefully at some point, um, the economy is 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.960 able to bounce back. Yeah, I think I would agree 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.040 with that sentiment. Um, let me just let me just 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.520 sort of try to crowbar something sports betting related into this. Um, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.080 it's actually not that difficult. I had someone at Bookmaker. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.480 I think you're a guy, would love to get the opinion, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.360 your opinion on this, someone at Bookmaker. UM relate or 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.360 at least I got this from somebody at Bookmaker that 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:38.720 on Saturday this past Saturday. So no poker and no Chris, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.040 just Bookmaker specifically that site this past Saturday. So we're 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.960 talking what e sports, random tennis that's not even like 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.120 top you know level tennis, King Pong, Australian rules football, whatever, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.200 all these random sports that are going on marginally in 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.920 the world, just on Saturday alone, no poker, just bookmaker 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.760 one and twenty five thousand dollars in Handle And I 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.400 thought about that all day Sunday, and I'm just like, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:10.079 if this isn't like less than number one in how 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.839 gambling or in sports betting specifically, here is a it's 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.640 got to be addictive, right, people are just action junkies 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.480 of a segment. We're just talking about segments now, And 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:25.920 just like the inability of people too to just stop 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.480 and be like, yeah, this is not something I would 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.280 ever bet on. Why should I do it now? And 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.040 I just thought, I was like, I gotta ask rufus 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.320 is reaction to something like that, because for me, that 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.040 should be like the first thing that's ever said on 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.720 any gamblers anonymous thing like we did a hundred twenty 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.680 five thousand dollars in Handle on a day where nothing 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:47.560 was going on. It's amazing or maybe I mean, I 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.080 think it shows how big the offshore betting world is. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:55.960 And I wonder what the limits were on those bets too, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.280 that dollars, like, you know, two hundred and fifty dollars 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.720 at a time, probably that's right, like one one burrito 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.440 at a time, as they say, Yeah, no, it's absolutely 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.120 it's it's amazing to me. Would this be a time 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.600 and you were you were texting me this the other day, like, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.240 and you've gone through it, and I know you aren't worried, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.680 So I don't want to like exaggerate the fear factor here, 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.640 but this would be a time where you would now 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.080 start your great time, as great a time as there 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:23.960 has ever been, where there's no sports a distractor, you 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.680 would do your research and development as you call it, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.960 with your handicapping. Now. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I've been 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.200 quite distracted. It's kind of hard to get away from 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.960 the news and everything. And also, um, my fiance and 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.640 I are both in the in the apartment, so we're 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.920 I mean, it's it's it's not the best work environment necessarily, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.760 although she's working from home now, so uh we we 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.560 have the way too. Is she doing well too, I 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:55.960 should ask, she's great? Yeah? Um, was she worried? I 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.320 don't think she was worried about her own health? Um, 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.160 I mean she she had it worse than I did. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.080 She had but she got through it. I mean she 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.000 had that symptoms for maybe three days, but we have 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.800 to take our temperature. Um. We had we had somebody 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.880 from public health calling us every day and we had 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.680 to report our temperature in the morning and the afternoon 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.920 and so UM. If she had left me, I would 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.000 have totally tweeted out a picture of our white board 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.520 because it's been interesting the patterns um uh, and I 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.080 would have wanted to get people to set a line 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.560 on it. Instead, I tested a few buddies, um, including you, Gilu. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.680 So explain to people what you did. Yeah, So, I mean, 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.920 so it was really interesting. There was a four day 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.400 pattern where in the morning I would have the lower 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.160 temperature and in the afternoon or at night she would 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.720 have the higher temperature. UM. And it was you know, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.680 every single day, um, for four straight days. And so 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.920 I was curious whether people thought that would be uh, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.640 just how much signal was, you know, how much signal 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.320 there was in there versus how much it was just 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.840 sort of animous and what the family factors were, because 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.040 so my temperature would increased throout the day, like it 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.000 was like ninety seven points something in the morning, and 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.200 then it would be like ninety eight points something at night, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.399 and hers was sort of the opposite, and so, um, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.119 I found it fascinating. But today we actually, um, we 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.280 retired last night for the first time, and I was 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.640 actually higher than she was this morning. So it's it's 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.200 kind of um yeah, I would have lost the money 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.200 betting on it. Actually, it's it's hard to explain over 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.520 the radio, so yeah, without the white board itself. But basically, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.400 your temperature at night would be more than a degree 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.560 higher than hers, like yours would Yours would be more bouncy, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.439 your temperature from morning tonight and you I think the 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.360 question you asked was would you lay minus four hundred 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:47.520 that my temperature would be higher than my fiance's based 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.400 on like a five or four day sample size kind 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.680 of thing. And so it's kind of a good sports 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.359 betting case study where it's like signal or noise? Is 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.879 this enough to go on to lay that kind of juice? 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.879 's something like at what was your conclusion? Ultimately, my 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.800 conclusion was that it was signal. I mean I know 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.680 that people in general were we we tend to see 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:13.119 patterns where none actually exist. But my temperature was her 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.960 temperature was about a degree higher than mine every morning, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.200 and mine was about a degree higher than hers. Every night. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.119 So it wasn't I mean, it wasn't like just a 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:26.159 small amount. It was it was quite quite significant. It's awesome. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.879 It's awesome that you came up with that exercise to 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.000 go through. All right, so the both of you are okay, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.720 You're both going to be okay. Um, by the way, 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.040 did that temperature fluctuation? Did you ever call a doctor 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.160 and say, hey, is this something that should be worried about? 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.520 Or were you just don't know? I mean once, so 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.560 we have the ear thermometers that um, the instant thermometer things, 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.800 and so we do each ear and take the higher 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.439 of the two. And once I like I got like 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.960 ninety four point one or something. I think there was 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.160 an error. So because she said I would be dead 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.440 if that was actually my temperature, rufus was our first 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.880 it was our first true evidence that you, in fact 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.000 are the robot we always thought you were like this 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.240 guy you will not enter emotion into his sports betting um, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.240 and there it is. There's the happens. So okay, the 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.440 both of you are going to be okay. So glad 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.520 to hear that I've never met your fiance, but tell 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.399 her where We're all glad When are you getting married? 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.240 When is the day you're getting married? Um, March next year. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.080 Mar next year. We're hopefully all of this will have 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:30.280 gone by now. We just celebrated our negative one year anniversary. 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.560 Is that what you're calling it? Your negative one year? 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.960 Is that? That's also it's also my sister's birthday, So 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.280 I'm never going to forget it. Lizzie, Please tell Liszie 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.440 she's still podcasting. She is. Lizzie is actually, um, she's 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:49.639 running a podcasting for the Smithsonian podcast. Let me just 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.639 say this. As talented as Rufus is in sports betting, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.560 and I hope you won't object to this. Rum is 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.440 Lizzie from the very first moment that I ever ever 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.240 heard her do a podcast. There is something about her 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.639 nature that draws you in. She is spectacular at what 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.080 she does, and I hope she pursues it, uh, for 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.600 as long as she wants to. Maybe she has bigger aspirations. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.840 I don't know. No, she's so it's it's I'm gonna 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.639 give it a plug. It's called Side Door. It's the 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.480 Smithsonian's podcast. It's really interesting and um, there was one 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:24.040 particular episode on I think it was Apollo twelve the 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.360 fifty at the anniversary of Popolotov. Was it was really 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.600 interesting though, um, and it's not the stuff that I 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.920 would normally be interested in, but it was. It's a 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:35.720 great storytelling makes history, hope, Rufus, thank you for doing this. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.320 Great to see you. I think you gave a lot 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.400 of people comfort just in telling the story, just sort 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.879 of normalizing it a bit. Glad you're doing well. Congratulations again. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.400 Best to you man. Good to see your face. Thanks Gil. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:51.119