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Speaker 1: For the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: They are right in the middle of their sixty fifth

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Speaker 2: camp in franchise history, the fourteenth here in Saint Joseph,

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Speaker 2: Missouri on the Missouri Western State University campus and a

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Speaker 2: team that is indeed chasing history. Defending the Kingdom is

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Ticketmaster. So many incredible home games

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Speaker 2: and road games, and it's become very popular to follow

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs Kingdom wherever they're playing, and Ticketmaster is your

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Speaker 2: new best friend. M cannon is in at running back,

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Speaker 2: first down and goal to go, play action.

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Speaker 3: Fake right side to touchdown dudsas City hook Toll Hartman,

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Speaker 2: Pass it over time and Hi everyone, Welcome to this

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Speaker 2: camp edition of Defending the Kingdom. I'm Achultist Voice of

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen and

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Speaker 2: being here in Saint Joseph's awesome We're gonna entitled this

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Speaker 2: episode called Tempo, and the what we saw in the

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Speaker 2: spring and summon hopefully that we captivated for all of

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Speaker 2: you with the Dtks was the fact that there was

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Speaker 2: a real tempo in the off season. We have seen

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Speaker 2: that not only continue but to move forward. Everybody in

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Speaker 2: this team is acting like they've never won it before.

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Speaker 2: And to me, that is a very, very apparent and

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Speaker 4: There's a real tempo to how we're slow roasting up

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Speaker 4: We have this black desk that's just glaring sun back

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Speaker 4: I'm like, God, it's like an oven. But yeah, the

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Speaker 4: first time in nineteen years that has happened. And really

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Speaker 4: And I said this in our livestream a little earlier

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Speaker 4: What they need to do to get to the three peat.

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Speaker 4: The eventual goal is put in the work every single day.

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Speaker 4: And that's not just game day or practices during the season.

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Speaker 4: It's off season practices. It's OTAs in May and in June,

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Speaker 4: and it's training camp practices. On days like this where

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Speaker 4: it's hot, it's every day you're living in the dorms.

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Speaker 4: But we're seeing this team get better and better every

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Speaker 4: single day. And if you're a Chief fan hoping for

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Speaker 1: And reminder that are defending the Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts from Training Camp here in Saint Joseph is brought

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Speaker 2: So a big shout out to the folks here at Mosaic,

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Speaker 2: the presenting sponsor of the Kansas City Chiefs training camp

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Speaker 2: and of these Defending the Kingdom podcasts, and of course

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Speaker 2: Mosaic will join us not only here, as we have

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Speaker 1: It's so hot I.

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Speaker 5: It's day four and we're already entering into like delirium.

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Speaker 4: Here's some around the world, some awesome people that I

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Speaker 2: But her name is Gabrielle Watson, and she's an eighth

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Speaker 2: So brother Rice wearing number four. Hey, he's exiled. He

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Speaker 2: I've talked about him. I've talked about those guys last

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Speaker 1: All three of these people, all three of.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to hype it, but Matt, you and

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Speaker 4: Coachrie will be the first one to say this, there

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Speaker 2: But Hollywood Brown is not only making flash plays, Matt,

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Speaker 4: bounce ideas off of them, and having that guy in your.

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Speaker 5: Corner is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Sky's the limit for Kingsley Suamataya. It's an

439
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Speaker 4: exciting development that you've got him late in the second round.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people thought you would be a first

441
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Speaker 4: round pick. And again, we really don't know much with

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Speaker 4: the offensive line until the Pats come on on Friday

443
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Speaker 4: and beyond. But I'd say it's a really fun battle

444
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Speaker 4: to follow and really one of the storylines of camp.

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Speaker 2: His other cousin's Puka Nakua, So he tells you about

446
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Speaker 2: his bloodlines.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: What's in the water?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's good orum Utah. Let's go

450
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Speaker 2: into the defense here, because we I mean, the defense

451
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Speaker 2: last year was spectacular. Well, the offense was fighting through

452
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Speaker 2: the drops and the holes and being minus eleven and

453
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Speaker 2: the giveaway takeaway, the defense was spectacular and scoring defense

454
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Speaker 2: second in the league, second in sacks. Matt, I'm gonna

455
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Speaker 2: say right now, this defense, even if it's not statistically better,

456
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Speaker 2: because those things can get convoluted because of the way

457
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Speaker 2: the game goes, and if the offense is better. But

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Speaker 2: I think this Chiefs defense, what I saw this summer

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Speaker 2: at spring and summer, you and I both watched it,

460
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Speaker 2: and what we're seeing in camp so far could be

461
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Speaker 2: maybe the nastiest defense in the NFL. It's the biggest

462
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Speaker 2: free agent signing this year was Chris Jones resigning with

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Now that Aaron Donald has retired, Chris Jones

464
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Speaker 2: becomes not even argument the best interior defensive lineman in

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Speaker 2: this league. Bar Nunn, car Loftis, Mike Dan can go

466
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Speaker 2: right down the line. The linebackers have to make you

467
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Speaker 2: a jump up the dbs because the other question would be.

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Speaker 1: What's going to go on?

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Speaker 2: Lugerius Snead has gone a Pro Bowl level, right, and

470
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Speaker 2: you're putting Trent McDuffie, an All Pro first team are outside, Well,

471
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Speaker 2: he's not in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Jamari Connor, how's you doing that?

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Speaker 5: So far?

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Speaker 2: He's doing not only fine, but very well. I'm super

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Speaker 2: fired up about this defense. They've befuddled Mahomes out here.

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Speaker 2: As good as the offense has been, the defense has

477
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Speaker 2: had wins, They've had big wins, and they blitzed Mahomes

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Speaker 2: into interceptions a couple times. And this defense I think

479
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Speaker 2: has a chance to be really, really, really good.

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Speaker 4: This is something else we talked about on our live stream.

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Speaker 4: When you come up to camp, of course, you want

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Speaker 4: to see the Mahomes crazy arm angle touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: We freak out when we see those things too, But

485
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Speaker 4: you want to see the defense make plays as well,

486
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Speaker 4: or else the team isn't getting better. And fortunately, the

487
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Speaker 4: defense has looked really good in this camp. I would

488
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Speaker 4: say day two and maybe today as well. Day four,

489
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Speaker 4: the defense won the day. The defense is what stood out,

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Speaker 4: and that's a good thing. You want to see the

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Speaker 4: defense out there because they're competing against the best quarter

492
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Speaker 4: back in the NFL and some really good skill position

493
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Speaker 4: players and they're succeeding playing well. So that's a good thing,

494
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Speaker 4: and you want those guys to do well in these practices. Really,

495
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Speaker 4: the defense that we saw last year that was, in

496
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Speaker 4: my opinion, the best defense in the NFL. It began

497
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Speaker 4: with the twenty twenty two draft class and maybe even

498
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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty one draft class with Nick Bolton, but

499
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Speaker 4: they twenty two draft class with players like George Carloftis,

500
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Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie, Jalen Watson, Josh oh Williams, Leo Chanel, all

501
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Speaker 4: those guys contributed to a defense that was really really

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Speaker 4: good their rookie year and the best defense in the

503
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Speaker 4: league last year. Those guys are still ascending. Keep that

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Speaker 4: in mind. I think George Carloffis has a chance to

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Speaker 4: be a star this season. I mean, he has been

506
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Speaker 4: so good and how he has gotten better and better

507
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Speaker 4: every year in his career, and I think he has

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Speaker 4: a chance to really break out this season. Trent McDuffie

509
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Speaker 4: is a top three corner in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean Pro Football Focus ranked him as the number

511
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Speaker 4: two corner in the league going into this season, behind

512
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Speaker 4: only Sauce Gardner. You have a superstar at corner.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple questions.

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Speaker 4: Who's going to be that other corner opposite of Trent

516
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Speaker 4: McDuffie right now, Probably Joshua Williams. He has to earn

517
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Speaker 4: that role. But another member of that draft class who's

518
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Speaker 4: going to fill that role in the slot. Tamari Connor

519
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Speaker 4: has a great shot at doing that. The guy the

520
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Speaker 4: Chiefs got in the fourth round last year kind of

521
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Speaker 4: a safety corner hybrid sort of player. There's some young

522
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Speaker 4: ascending players here that the defense, as good as it

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Speaker 4: was last year, wasn't only contingent on some veterans that

524
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Speaker 4: maybe aren't here anymore. It was also built on some

525
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Speaker 4: really young players who are only going to get better.

526
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Speaker 4: So they have to take that mandate out here at practice.

527
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Speaker 4: They have to make sure they attack it and that

528
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Speaker 4: they do improve. But I'm very excited about the defense

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Speaker 4: going into this year, and you couple that with what

530
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Speaker 4: we've seen it from the offense. Might be the best

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Speaker 4: team we've had here in a while.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And Brian Cook's back.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

534
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Speaker 2: And he's back, and he's played at a high level here.

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Speaker 2: Even though I got beat on that crazy play at

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Speaker 2: sixty two yards, he had perfect coverage on it. It

537
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Speaker 2: was just an amazing play by Mahomes and worthy to

538
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Speaker 2: beat him. But he's back, and remember his awesome play

539
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Speaker 2: in Frankfurt, Germany. So him being back, I hope Nanzie

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Speaker 2: Johnson of Tweaked thene today he had the ACL last year.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that just was before we started the podcast

543
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Speaker 2: we heard that. But he's back, hopefully, so this defense

544
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Speaker 2: has a chance to be really, really, really good. We'll

545
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Speaker 2: talk in future podcasts about special teams, especially this new

546
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Speaker 2: kickoff rule, which we talked about a little bit before

547
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Speaker 2: the plant shut down. No one's thinking about it, no

548
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Speaker 2: one's talking about it, and wait, till the first preseason

549
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Speaker 2: you game. You're going to go, what is this? I

550
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Speaker 2: gave the analogy spoke in Springfield the other night. This

551
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Speaker 2: is like changing the national currency to bitcoin only on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: Only on Tuesdays. That's how crazy this is. It's kind

553
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Speaker 2: to decide games. But we'll jump into that and how

554
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs could actually use it to their advantage to

555
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Speaker 2: be even better than a year ago. But I'll close

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Speaker 2: it this way, because I've said this too. Is the

557
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Speaker 2: fact and by the way, we're this podcast and the

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Speaker 2: ones throughout camp and I only brought to you by Ticketmaster,

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Speaker 2: but by the folks at Mosaic Again. They're part of

560
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Speaker 2: the Mayo Care Clinic system and they're terrific in covering

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Speaker 2: this four state area. So but the fact that are

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs going to have forty four drops? Are the

563
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Speaker 2: Chiefs gonna be minus eleven? And the giveaway takeaway ratio?

564
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Speaker 2: Are they gonna have twenty holds? They're gonna be five

565
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Speaker 2: and four at home? Just think about this. If you

566
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Speaker 2: just put some sense into it, this team could be

567
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Speaker 2: way better than they were a year ago.

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Speaker 4: And just some general bad luck at times last year,

569
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Speaker 4: just some things didn't go the Chiefs waiter in the

570
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Speaker 4: reg of the season last year.

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Speaker 5: That were somewhat.

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Speaker 4: Random, But the beauty of this team as they overcame

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Speaker 4: all of it, overcame all of those things. And this

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Speaker 4: year just I mean, I know it's training camp, it's

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Speaker 4: only day four, but the things that we're seeing so

576
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Speaker 4: far has we really fired up for what this team

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Speaker 4: can achieve, what it can be this year. They're in

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Speaker 4: a great position to go make some history this season.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. If you're just listening to the

580
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Speaker 4: podcast and you hear the lawnmower in the background that

581
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: sound right there, that means football is almost back.

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Speaker 2: But it's back for us right now being in this camp.

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Speaker 2: But again, thanks to folks at Mosaic and for ticket Master,

584
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Speaker 2: we're gonna keep you. We're gonna do more dtks from camp.

585
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Speaker 2: We'll also have our live streams. Make sure you join us.

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Speaker 2: But you should be excited in the king about this

587
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Speaker 2: team and they'll just continue to ascend. It's gonna be

588
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Speaker 2: fun to watch him those battles he's met. McMullen, senior

589
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Speaker 2: team reporter. I'm ach oldest voice of the Chiefs. We

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Speaker 2: will now redo our ivs and get off the surface

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Speaker 2: of Mercury and fly back to our own.

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Speaker 5: Solar system, getting an ice bath or something.

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Speaker 1: Please could up