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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost smous podcast. Today Ben

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Speaker 2: and I are getting together to talk about some shocking

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Speaker 2: news that hit the internet yesterday. Devin has some serious

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Speaker 2: legal issues in his past.

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Speaker 3: It's uh, there's a lot to break down here. So

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Speaker 3: this is a breaking news Almost Famous podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: start doing these more because it just feels like these

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Speaker 3: some of this stuff can't wait till like next week's headlines,

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Speaker 3: and today is definitely one of those days, according to

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Speaker 3: Reality Steve. Reported by Reality Steve and then broken down

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Speaker 3: at little further by Bachelor Data. That's where I'm getting

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Speaker 3: a lot of my information from.

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Speaker 2: But also now an article with Hollywood Reporter, which we

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Speaker 2: know is like a very legitimate entertainment news source.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of coming across the airways. But

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Speaker 3: Reality Steve is we have to give him credit for

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Speaker 3: being the original one to break this.

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Speaker 2: Because the girl she's set in him the info right,

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Speaker 2: the ex girlfriend who he has the restraint that she

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Speaker 2: has a restraining order against Devon.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty wild story. So here is the story.

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Speaker 3: Devin who ended up with Jen at the end, and

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Speaker 3: then obviously had his moment on Life television that didn't

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Speaker 3: go well for him, and then tried to post a

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Speaker 3: thirteen many video that didn't go well for him. Has

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Speaker 3: now had more news come out here as of the

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Speaker 3: last twenty four hours that is also not going well

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Speaker 3: for him. And there's a lot of people involved in

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Speaker 3: this actually that we need to talk about that it's

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Speaker 3: not going to go well for But here's the headline.

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Speaker 3: Bachelorette star Devin X had a restraining order against him

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Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. This took place in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: So it happened back in the college years. Twenty was twenteen,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty one, okay, So while having a restraining order

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Speaker 2: out on him, he still came to her door, banged

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Speaker 2: on the door several times, starts screaming at her, and

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Speaker 2: then later that evening made a fire out in the

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Speaker 2: street outside of her apartment complex and apparently made the fire,

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Speaker 2: was lighting the actual restraining order on fire. She also

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Speaker 2: had her tire flattened and when it was being changed,

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Speaker 2: you know, when like TRIPLEA came to change or whatever,

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Speaker 2: Devon came outside and began laughing at her in like

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Speaker 2: an obnoxious way. Ultimately, he pled guilty to charges of

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Speaker 2: criminal trespass and simple criminal damage to property of less

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Speaker 2: than five hundred dollars. He received one year of unsupervised

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Speaker 3: Like what, like, let's take a pause there, just for

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Speaker 3: everybody to process the information they just received. So Devin,

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Speaker 3: there's three three I think we should break this down.

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Speaker 3: The first, let's talk about Devon and obviously these actions

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Speaker 3: are so bad and at some level even hard to process,

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Speaker 3: just that he did all of.

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Speaker 2: This, but he did this after the restraining order was

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Speaker 2: put on it. Like, what did he do to get

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Speaker 2: the restraining on to you?

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Speaker 3: If we knew what he did?

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Speaker 1: We know.

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Speaker 3: So here's my first way breaking this down. I don't

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Speaker 3: think any of us, anybody out there listening, needs us

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Speaker 3: to go into just how terrible these acts are, because

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Speaker 3: I think that's obvious. He had a restraining order against them,

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Speaker 3: broke the restraining order, and then decided to vandalize and

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Speaker 3: torment this poor woman to a place where obviously there

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Speaker 3: was more law involved. But let's stop for a second

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Speaker 3: outside of that the obvious, and say, why did Devin

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Speaker 3: go on the show.

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Speaker 2: After knowing that this was out there about him, and

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Speaker 2: then this could easily come out in public knowledge.

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Speaker 3: That's my first thought, And maybe that's an incorrect way

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Speaker 3: to think of it, but I'm thinking, all right, dude,

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Speaker 3: you obviously have a past that you shouldn't not be

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Speaker 3: opening up millions of people to learn about. So let's

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Speaker 3: before we talk about how he got on the show,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about his decision to say, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go on this show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, it's just weird. It's just also

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Speaker 2: proves that he was really hungry for some attention, so

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Speaker 2: out about him. Okay, so that he, like I want

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Speaker 2: to feel, I feel like he like swindled her into love.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, Like originally, if I'm honest, my thought was

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Speaker 3: he did love her. Maybe he did still, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but he was very into her, and that he wanted

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Speaker 3: this to work and it didn't work, and he just

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Speaker 3: I thought of this whole thing was he loved her,

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Speaker 3: it didn't work out, and then he handled everything afterwards

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Speaker 3: like a child. Now, with this news coming out and

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Speaker 3: also his thirteen minute video, my perspective has changed to

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Speaker 3: be he played her this whole time. And I'll add

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Speaker 3: in this which will probably not be received well, the

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Speaker 3: group of men on this season were so bad that

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Speaker 3: he somehow came out on top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially after seeing the Golden Bachelorette and this

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Speaker 3: We can't compare the two. Those two cannot even be compared, Like,

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Speaker 3: they can't even They're two totally different categories.

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Speaker 2: There's gotta be they have the capability of finding great people, right,

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Speaker 3: He's a great man. Your husband's a great man. Look

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Speaker 2: They found him, they found you, They found a lot

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Speaker 2: of great people. But like, what is it casting that

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Speaker 2: sucks or or do is this generation which is a

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Speaker 2: decade younger? Now? A decade has passed since you and

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Speaker 2: Jared were casted cast Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Devins six years younger than me? That only six

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Speaker 3: years younger.

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Speaker 2: That's not really generational, is it.

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Speaker 3: No, he's six years younger men? Yeah, Okay, so that's

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Speaker 3: the first thoughts here this no matter what generation, Let's

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Speaker 3: be clear, no matter what generation, what time, what era,

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Speaker 3: how far we go along this this back, the backing

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Speaker 3: of what's happened in Devon's life is never should never

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Speaker 3: be on the show, right, Like this is not a

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Speaker 3: new generational thing where it's like, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 3: the new generation just really likes to vandalize cars and

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Speaker 3: break into their ex's houses and have restraining orders put

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Speaker 3: out against them and break those restraining orders. Like that's

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Speaker 3: never going to be okay. So the fact that he

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Speaker 3: So that's a transition into talking about how he got

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Speaker 3: on the show. Yeah, Ashley, you've been on this show.

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Speaker 3: I've been on this show. The amount of effort put

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Speaker 3: into learning about my past and knowing whatever diseases I

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Speaker 3: carried or did it carry, and all the blood work

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Speaker 3: they knew everything about me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a full background check, full psychological checkup

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Speaker 2: exam and then yeah physical exam. So insane that this

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Speaker 2: later sealed. It was sealed that I guess that means

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Speaker 2: like the X was like, Okay, I'm over it. Whatever

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Speaker 2: you can pretend it never happened. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty generous after what he did. Then it says, but

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Speaker 2: the burglary for the arrest AFFI David, that is still

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Speaker 2: in the public public record, so they would have been

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Speaker 2: able to find that the bachelor, whoever the heck does

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Speaker 2: the background checks, so they would have found that he

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Speaker 2: had a burglary arrest. And if you look into the

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Speaker 2: burglary arrest, it discusses the restraining order, so it really

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Speaker 2: is public record, like all of it.

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Speaker 3: If Reality Steve can find this, and how much time

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Speaker 3: it took him, I know, and Reality Steve obviously got

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Speaker 3: looking into something that was existing because of his ex

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Speaker 3: or whoever that tipped him off on this. But if

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Speaker 3: all the resources and the tools that they have available.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about this for a second. I I

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Speaker 3: as far as saying it's just not possible that the

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Speaker 2: I think that I've a were a guess. I think

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Speaker 2: I just think that they probably didn't look into the

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Speaker 2: paperwork that said that it had to do with, like

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Speaker 3: But how Ashley, So what you just said was they

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Speaker 2: Still nuts that they would have been like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 3: On, and that they would allow Jin to end up

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like that they wouldn't at some point say hey Jen, yea,

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Speaker 3: you're into him and he's into you and all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've done that. They did this for me

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Speaker 2: They could have twisted the story around like Top four.

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Speaker 3: Like how did they let this go through? And for

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Speaker 3: Jen to enter into this blind to his past. The

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Speaker 3: one thing that I always had trust on as a

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Speaker 3: I needed to learn as much about them as possible. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I need to ask every question that was available to

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Speaker 3: if we were a match together. I never once questioned

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Speaker 3: if I had asked, Hey, have you ever been arrested

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Speaker 3: and if so for what, Hey, which you know outside

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Speaker 3: Like that was never even a thought.

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Speaker 2: So we have had people on the show that have

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Speaker 2: had DUIs. You know, I'd say a number. Now, what's

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Speaker 3: Let me be clear, Mistakes happen, and you learn from

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Speaker 3: those mistakes, and I'm hoping there's some grace there to say, Hey,

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Speaker 3: what happened, tell us more about this. We saw this

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Speaker 3: doing the background check. Tell me a little bit more

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Speaker 3: so to help me understand like what you've learned from

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Speaker 3: that and how you've grown from that and who you

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Speaker 3: if you've actually grown from this or not. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that you know, mistakes don't happen. They do. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that people that have made mistakes and

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Speaker 3: grown from those mistakes should not end up on the show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at Zach Clark for example, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna help others do that. Zak Clark should

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Speaker 3: How is casting letting these people get through? This season

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Speaker 3: Huh what do you what background checks are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Then reality Steve said that he like has this information

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Speaker 3: Yeah, third party that I want to talk about with Jen.

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Speaker 3: All that to be said. If I'm jin, I'm like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ashley again, I have a This show has been

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Speaker 2: Well, we should ask some contestants that have currently gone

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Speaker 2: Maybe they've left this in charge to somebody like it's

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Speaker 3: That's a bad decision. Every background check I've ever had

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Speaker 3: You know, it's different like criteria for how in depth

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Speaker 2: A really bad picker sometimes when it comes to show guys.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Yeah, I do feel like I want to like

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Speaker 3: and the leads need to know that this stuff will

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Speaker 3: not be a problem because in your dating life, if

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Speaker 3: you don't have access to the Internet, and you can't

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Speaker 3: research these people and you can't google the person that

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Speaker 3: you've been dating for a few weeks, you leave it

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Speaker 3: up to the show to do that for you, because

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Speaker 3: they take that away from you. And if you're going

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Speaker 3: to take it away from me and these contestants, then

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Speaker 3: we got to hope that you've done the work to

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Speaker 3: make sure that these people are a good fit. That's

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Speaker 3: the breaking news. That's all we got. There's not a

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Speaker 3: lot else to say about it other than it's not good.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear from John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, goodness, and I hope we get to Anyways, until

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Speaker 3: next time, I haven't been I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Say you guys

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