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Speaker 1: pay people to go away. You gotta this guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of wants. You gotta pay all his

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Speaker 1: coordinators financially, it costs you a lot of money. You

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Speaker 1: got to meet all these new people. It's a pain

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Speaker 1: in the ass. The best case scenario Lions hire Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: It works, and we go Rams hire McVeigh, Niners hire Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: You're just my coach for a while. I don't even

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Speaker 1: have to think about, like, who are the best coordinators?

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Speaker 1: Who do I need to interview? We gotta do zoom,

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Speaker 1: then we gotta fly to them, then I gotta fly

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Speaker 1: to me. It's like, it's pain in the ass, right,

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Speaker 1: You would always rather just hire the right guy and

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Speaker 1: never have to worry about it. But when you do

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Speaker 1: hire the wrong guy, you better make the move fast.

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Speaker 1: And I gave Mark Davis credit for that, but just

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: he regrets. He doesn't regret it, but clearly it did

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Speaker 1: not work out when he didn't hire Rich and he

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Speaker 1: went with Josh McDaniels. He wants to hire Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 1: And listen, are the Raiders that much better? They're the

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Speaker 1: same guys are rolling out there than when Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: was a coach a couple weeks ago. They don't look

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Speaker 1: that dramatically different from a personnel standpoint. They clearly are

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Speaker 1: playing harder, and they one d per like this guy

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Speaker 1: dramatically more. But like I watched Max Crosby, he's been

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Speaker 1: playing this hard, whether Josh McDaniels coached him, whether Mike

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Speaker 1: Mayock was the general manager, whether Antonio Pierce is coaching

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Speaker 1: the team. The guy plays his ass off every snap,

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Speaker 1: whether me and you were on the sideline. But there

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Speaker 1: is a different energy when you watch them play. Now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get a lot harder. They still play the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: This week, they play the Dolphins, Like, are they some

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Speaker 1: real contender? Now? I wouldn't go that far. But if

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Speaker 1: i'm Mark Davis, like I'm two games in, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I've made the right move. And they're five and five,

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Speaker 1: so they have seven games left. I think if he

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Speaker 1: can get to nine and eight. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 1: nine and eight gets in the playoffs, but I think

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Speaker 1: nine and eight gets in the job. Now. It might

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Speaker 1: not be one of these six year contracts like Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniels got or Dan Campbell got. That's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But maybe he gives him like a three year deal

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Speaker 1: and Antonio Pierce is at minimum the coach for the

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Speaker 1: next several years. And it just kind of mellows everything

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Speaker 1: out because they do have a lot of really good players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got one of the best pass rush

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Speaker 1: in the league. They got one of the best wide

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Speaker 1: receivers in the league. They have other good offensive weapons,

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Speaker 1: like Jacobe Meyer's a good player, obviously, Hunter Renfro has

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Speaker 1: proven he's one of the better slots. Josh Jacobs is

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Speaker 1: a stud at running back. They shouldn't have been as

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Speaker 1: bad as they were, and I also think that reflects

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Speaker 1: why so many executives and owners often butt heads with

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Speaker 1: their head coach because coaches will do such short sighted things. Well,

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Speaker 1: Brian Horror, he knows the offense. It's like Brian Horr sucks.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he knows every offense that every

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Speaker 1: coach in football has ever created. If we play this guy,

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Speaker 1: we're going to loose. Like that's a fact, Jack. We

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Speaker 1: cannot start this guy in twenty twenty three and think

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Speaker 1: we have any chance to win, even if it's on

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Speaker 1: the road against a team starting a Division two quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And you say, see Aidan O'Connell. Is Aidan O'Connell the

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Speaker 1: next Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. Of course not. But

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Speaker 1: does Aidan O'Connell give them some life and give them

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Speaker 1: some juice? Hell? Yeah. So I'm rooting for Antonio Pierce,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, right now, just find a way

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Speaker 1: to go four and three in these last seven games,

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Speaker 1: and the job's yours. Not gonna say I called it

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Speaker 1: because the ball take of the week is just that

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Speaker 1: we get bold, we swing for the fences. But last

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Speaker 1: week I said that C. J. Stroud and the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans would go into Cincinnati and they would not only

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Speaker 1: upset the Bengals, but CJ. Stroud would throw his hat

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Speaker 1: into the ring for the MVP conversation. Well, as we

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Speaker 1: found out tonight, Josh Allen, he's not in it. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson definitely fell off off, you know, Joe Burrow definitely

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Speaker 1: still in it. But I would say I don't think TJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud necessarily is going to be the MVP, but he's

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Speaker 1: definitely the lock offensive rookie of the year and he's

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Speaker 1: got an opportunity to save a franchise. And we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about this now for several weeks. If you're the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, every day when everyone involved in that building,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not talking necessarily players, but every executive, every coach,

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Speaker 1: when they you know, pull out their badge and go

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Speaker 1: in that side door. However they get in the office,

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Speaker 1: they're lucky to come into work because in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: when you don't have a quarterback, you really got no chance.

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Speaker 1: You know, it takes. Look what the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing.

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Speaker 1: They're holding on for dear life every single week. When

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Speaker 1: you have one of these guys, you can win every

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Speaker 1: single way. And think about this, like if he just

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Speaker 1: maintained this level of play the next ten years, you're

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Speaker 1: in an awesome position like this is that's all you wait.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna throw thirty five touchdowns a year. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is all you're gonna do is just do this.

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Speaker 1: You'd be fine. He's gonna get better. There's a natural

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Speaker 1: improvement that happens. The more you do anything, the more

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Speaker 1: you experience something, the more I don't care what you do,

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Speaker 1: the more comfortable you will be at doing That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean it's not always gonna be this easy. He is

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Speaker 1: gonna have some games like he did against Carolina. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a game where he throws three picks. But

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Speaker 1: his high end, it's not even disputable at this point,

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Speaker 1: is really freaking high he throws. I mean, an absolute

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Speaker 1: beautiful ball. And I'll say it every single week that

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Speaker 1: that ability to layer throws between defenders is just a

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Speaker 1: game changer. And the other thing, like watching Josh Allen tonight,

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Speaker 1: when you have a howitzer right when you throw one

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Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, when you have Brett Farvard Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's arm, when you hit you know, if you're a

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Speaker 1: golfer and your Bryce in d Chambeau and you can

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Speaker 1: drive it three hundred and sixty yards. You're always gonna

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Speaker 1: lean on that, but you're also gonna get in trouble

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Speaker 1: with that. Right. There's a reason Brett Favre and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen throw some picks that other people wouldn't even attempt

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Speaker 1: to try because they don't have the arm capability to

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Speaker 1: pull that off. Well, that's what makes guys like CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: which really is more in the world of I'm not

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Speaker 1: comparing him to this player, but of the Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: I would say Philip Rivers. He's got a good arm,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to hang his hat on accuracy, timing,

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Speaker 1: and that's how he's gonna win. Now, he'll push the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field, but he does not, by any

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Speaker 1: means have some howitzer and I think timing, rhythm and

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Speaker 1: this offense. I remember a guy and I think I've

551
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Speaker 1: said this on the podcast that is part of a

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Speaker 1: franchise that interviewed and ended up hiring one of the

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Speaker 1: Shanahan guys. And the way the Shanahan guy described the

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Speaker 1: offense is we're gonna need the quarterback. We're ideally gonna

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Speaker 1: run the ball more than we pass it, and if

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Speaker 1: we pass it twenty twenty five to thirty times a game.

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Speaker 1: Fifty to sixty percent of those passes are going to

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Speaker 1: be baked in layups, right boots and waggles on the movement,

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Speaker 1: dumping it off to the running back, dumping it off

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Speaker 1: to the tight end, or even dumping it off on

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Speaker 1: a crossing route. It's a built in, essentially a one

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Speaker 1: route concept in the passing game. It's very easy. It's

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Speaker 1: why if you're a good player, you can inflate your

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Speaker 1: numbers that way. I e. Matt Ryan honestly kind of

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Speaker 1: what party's doing. But you do have to have whether

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Speaker 1: it's twelve throws of games, whether it's eight throws a game,

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Speaker 1: and with CJ's a little more because they're they're throwing

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Speaker 1: it a little more. But we don't need you to

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Speaker 1: have these Peyton Manning just fifty attempt games, right, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen has them, Mahomes has them. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: the offense is necessarily built, though. He's proven because of

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Speaker 1: his his training at Ohio State, like, Hey, I can

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Speaker 1: throw the ball a shitload. I like it. I'm comfortable

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Speaker 1: doing that, and I'm accurate enough and I have a

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Speaker 1: good enough under standing of where to go with the ball,

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Speaker 1: that it's safe to do it, because a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't mind throwing the ball. You just can't trust

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Speaker 1: him in that situation, and he's proven time and time

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Speaker 1: again that he can be trusted. The other skill you

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Speaker 1: have to have is whether you get sacked in an

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Speaker 1: inopportune time, whether you throw a terrible pick. You have

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Speaker 1: to have basically a memory like a goldfish. You have

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Speaker 1: to be able to forget fast. You cannot worry about

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Speaker 1: what just happened because it can derail you mentally. It

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Speaker 1: can break you as a quarterback because when you get

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Speaker 1: back in the huddle and CJ. Stroud, I guess it

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Speaker 1: technically wasn't a pick six, but it might as well been.

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Speaker 1: When he makes just a devastating, what looked like at

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Speaker 1: the time interception, he could go into the tank. But ultimately,

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Speaker 1: when you get the ball back, you go back in

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Speaker 1: the huddle and all ten guys are looking at you.

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Speaker 1: So if you're sulking, if your head's down, which actually

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Speaker 1: would be pretty understandable twenty two to twenty three year

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Speaker 1: old rookie, keep your head high. Show confidence. That's what

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Speaker 1: all the top quarterbacks have in the back. They're unphased

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Speaker 1: by that. They got the you know, the bulletproof skin.

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick mahomes like, they're not phased

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Speaker 1: by a mistake. And he's showing that pretty young. So

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Texans fan right now, I don't know, man'

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Speaker 1: it's it's it'd be hard to be much more excited

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Speaker 1: than you are. Let's go to a little Morgan and

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Speaker 1: Morgan right now, the player who made it look easy.

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Speaker 1: And I've been critical on this guy. I've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot of shit about him, but I got to give

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Speaker 1: Russell his flowers. I mean Russell Wilson twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. The first touchdown throw he had in the

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Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, that that look like vintage Russ.

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Speaker 1: That looked like the guy that you went middle of

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Speaker 1: his Seattle career. This is gonna be a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Well, the conversation's changed a little bit

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but Russell's really I give

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Speaker 1: him a lot of credit because not only would have

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Speaker 1: been easy to go in the tank and listen, some

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Speaker 1: of his positivity can drive guys you don't lean a

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Speaker 1: little negative like myself a little nuts, but he just

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Speaker 1: kept swinging, and he's definitely improved over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. And it feels like in a short period

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Speaker 1: of time, I'm trying to overreact here, resurrecting his career

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Speaker 1: a little bit at least getting the train back on

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Speaker 1: the tracks and for a long time. And I'm as

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Speaker 1: guilty as anyone. I thought that train like movie style,

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Speaker 1: flying off the bridge, down into the gully full of

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Speaker 1: water and rocks blowing up, like I thought it was over,

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Speaker 1: and now feels like it's just back on the tracks,

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Speaker 1: headed in the right direction. And for a guy that

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Speaker 1: they owe a lot of money, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversation about, you know, are they going to trade him?

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton hate them, and I've been part of that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty nine. Couple touchdowns lead him on

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Speaker 1: a game winning drive, just being kind of in complete

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Speaker 1: control most of the game, just looking I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: like his peak self, but just like a solid NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is something I didn't see coming. So if you're ever injured,

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Speaker 1: you can check out Morgan and Morgan. Their fee is

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Speaker 1: free unless they win. For more information, go to for

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Speaker 1: One consistent theme of this season. Cleveland did not need

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to be a top five quarterback. They just

652
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: needed him to be a top fifteen quarterback. They just

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Speaker 1: needed him to be some of those Jimmy Garoppolo versions

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, not the guy who's seen this year

655
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: in Oakland or Vegas, but just a middle of the

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00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: road with some above average performances and let the defense

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00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: cook and early on in that game, and honestly through

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Speaker 1: the second half, if twenty four to nine after Beckham scores,

659
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: you're like God, Cleveland that their quarterback situation is a disaster.

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00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Now your boy, like many other people on the social

661
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Speaker 1: media streets, might have been talking a lot of shit

662
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: and then they came storming back. Now. Lamar Jackson had

663
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: an awful pick in the second half. The Ravens just

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00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of stumbled, and Deshaun Watson was awesome and relative

665
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Speaker 1: to his Brown's career, easily the best Browns performance for him,

666
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, fourteen to fourteen in the second half, he

667
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: ran in a two point conversion, he threw a touchdown,

668
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Speaker 1: and ultimately they don't even need him to be that

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Speaker 1: good against most teams. Obviously, the Ravens are one of

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00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: the better teams in the NFL, but they're gonna play

671
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Speaker 1: teams that aren't that good. They just need him to

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00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: be middle of the road. And I just saw before

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: I started recordings he's having an MRI on his ankle.

674
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: He's pretty beat up as a player right from potential concussion,

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00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, now an ankle injury. They just need

676
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Speaker 1: him to be solid. They don't need to him to

677
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Speaker 1: be as Dabo Sweeney once said, Michael Jordan or Superman.

678
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Speaker 1: Just be middle of the pack. Now they're not paying

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Speaker 1: for middle of the pack. But we've talked about the

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Speaker 1: cap implications. Their team is so good on defense. Miles

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: Garrett to me is easily the defensive player of the

682
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Speaker 1: year so far this season. Their dbs are awesome. I

683
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: mean new some that pick six now fell right into

684
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: his arm, but that ability. They're fun team to watch

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: on defensively now offensively the quarterback play when it looked

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00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: like PJ. Walker was gonna come in for a second,

687
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I do think that's a better win for the Browns

688
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: than it is a bad loss for the Ravens. Though

689
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: you could argue, you're up twenty four to nine at

690
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: home in the second half and you're a fucking powerhouse,

691
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: you can't lose the game. But divisional games, weird stuff happens.

692
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Their quarterback. We can't forget he is owed after you know,

693
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Speaker 1: the beginning of this year two hundred and twenty nine

694
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: million dollars, so at one point in time, he was

695
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: a really good player. But props to Cleveland, props Totfanski.

696
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure on this franchise right simply.

697
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: They're just this because if they were to miss the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: which it doesn't look like they're going, to coaches for

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Speaker 1: sure fired, you could argue, depending on how it looks

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. A lot of heats on Stefanski, Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: The defense is awesome. If they were to fire Stefanski,

702
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: you think they would just elevate him. It's kind of

703
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: been his mo in his career to try to max

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Speaker 1: damn a little bit. He attempted to do that to

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, but then Doug won a Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen to Stefanski. Like I

707
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Speaker 1: don't think the Browns are gonna win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but if their quarterback play is just solid, their defense

709
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Speaker 1: is so good, I don't think it's out of the

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Speaker 1: realm possibility that they make some serious noise in the

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Speaker 1: AFC playoffs. And let's face it, yesterday was a freaking

712
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: great day for them. Bengals lose at the end of

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00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the game to the Texans. They are playing the Ravens, right,

714
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Speaker 1: so two teams that they're trying to catch. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put my money on them winning the division. But when

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Speaker 1: your defense is that dominant and at any moment can score,

717
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: can create a turnover, I don't know, man, I saw

718
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: this team beat the shit out of the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Not a big people think I'm an Ohio hater. I

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: don't like Ohio State. Nothing against the Browns. I actually

721
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Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for the passion of their face.

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Speaker 1: Not a big Deshaun Watson guy. After everything that happened,

723
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna find myself rooting for him, But like Stefanski,

724
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz clearly is a fantastic defensive coordinator. Not a

725
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: huge flying j guy either. Not rooting for that ownership.

726
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: But the Browns. If I'm a Browns fan, I'm pumping

727
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: my chest high. And the Ravens, God, they always do this,

728
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, every time you're like, oh, they're in cruise control. Nope,

729
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: not so fast. La Mario can't turn the ball over.

730
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: You can't. And that's kind of always been as bugaboo

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Speaker 1: and some of these big spots. That's why they've underachieved

732
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I was picking him to win the

733
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: MVP a couple of weeks ago. The great part about football, man,

734
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: you only get one of these a week. Things change

735
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: really fast. Opinions changed is very Fluid's like the stock market.

736
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Speaker 1: You can't just own yourself to one take because at

737
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: a moment's notice, an injury, poor play can derail you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ronnie Stanley goes down in that game. Who

739
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Speaker 1: knows his status? Now? What's going on? Thursday? They play

740
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Pretty big game for both those teams. I mean,

741
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: borderline must win for the Bengals, given where they stand

742
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: in the standings. You know, in that division. Speaking of

743
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: must win, there are no must wins anymore. For New England.

744
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: I watched way too much of that game, an utter embarrassment.

745
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: And I remember when the forty nine ers fired Jim Harbaugh,

746
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: they claim mutually departed and they went to Jim Tomsula

747
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: and then the Chip Kelly. The fan base became very apathetic.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, we're not gonna consume this, you're

749
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: not gonna make money off us. We despise what we're watching.

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Speaker 1: And it's different in New England because Bill's still there.

751
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: In any New England fan. We've argued a lot about

752
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: this on the mail bag over the year about Patriot fans, like,

753
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you gotta suck it up. These you suck,

754
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: but you had twenty freaking years that every single fan

755
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: base would sign up for gladly, So this is usually

756
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: how it goes. But it's as ugly as it possibly

757
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: could be. I mean that their offense is literally unwatchable.

758
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is an unwatchable player, right at least if

759
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: you're a Bears fan, you're like, well, we got two picks.

760
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the top five or six. We're

761
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: probably gonna get the number one overall pick. We're gonna

762
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: fire Evra Flues. So yeah, this franchise historically, you can't

763
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: put much faith into him, but at least we're about

764
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: to have hope like the Patriots right now, don't feel

765
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: that hopeful, but the only thing to hope for. And listen,

766
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Speaker 1: I'm a pro Belichick guy. I will defend him because

767
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: I think it's so easy. And I told Coward this

768
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and I'll say this till the day

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Speaker 1: I die. Well, what's he without Brady? What would Walsh

770
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Speaker 1: have Ben without Joe Montana. What would Mike Holmgren ben

771
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: in Green Bay without Brett Farv Right, Tony Dungee's in

772
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame might want to shake Peyton Manning's hand. Right,

773
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton just got ninety million dollars from the Denver Broncos.

774
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Drew Brees. Right, Mike Tomlin hasn't won a

775
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: playoff game in a long time. Last I checked when

776
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Speaker 1: he had young peak Ben Roethlisberger rattling off a lot

777
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: of victories, I mean, making some runs in the playoffs.

778
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: So to be a good coach, you have to have

779
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback. John Harbaugh won a Super Bowl. Joe

780
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Flacco got as hot as humanly possible. Same thing with

781
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Tom coflin Eli Manning from a month and a half

782
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: straight became the best quarterback in the league. So to

783
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: be a good coach, to be a championship winning coach,

784
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Speaker 1: you need a great quarterback. You need a Hall of

785
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Fame guy or a really good player to get just

786
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, otherworldly hot. So I'm not acting like Belichick's

787
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: the village idiot. But listen, everyone in the business I

788
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: used to work in will say like people when they

789
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: were winning championships, wanted out why they didn't pay that

790
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: much money if you were in scouting and he didn't

791
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: listen to you, so you just were kind of irrelevant.

792
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Now you got to build your resume because you worked

793
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. You probably got a Super Bowl or

794
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: two and it changed the course of your life. But

795
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: when you were there, it was miserable, but it was

796
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: worth it. Like there was a light at the end

797
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: of the tunnel, there was some gold when you were digging.

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00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I see where this is going. This isn't just a

799
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: pointless exercise, which can happen sometimes in football as a player,

800
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: as a coach, as an exec in the NFL, when

801
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: you're part of shitty teams, you're like, what is the

802
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: point of any of this? And with New England there

803
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: always was a point. We're going to the AFC Championship,

804
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: more than likely we're going to Super Bowl, and there's

805
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: like forty percent chance we're gonna win the fucking thing.

806
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Those days are so long gone it's not even funny.

807
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: They're an embarrassment. And I've said this over and over

808
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: with Bill, and I get it, like he's comfortable around

809
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Speaker 1: his people. I've known some old people that had a

810
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: lot of money. They usually don't change their ways become

811
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Speaker 1: more progressive and open minded in their seventies. It's not

812
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: the way the world works. They usually stick with what's

813
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: got them there. And a lot of times, as the

814
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: world changes in any industry, that can be your downfall.

815
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Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to pivot. Like ultimately, Pete Carroll,

816
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: he's a good example. Like Pete Carroll hadn't changed at all.

817
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: He just literally got rid of Russell Wilson. He shorted

818
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson as a player. Turned out he was right.

819
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Speaker 1: Then they hit on a bunch of draft picks after

820
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: that trade, and they already had some impact players. But

821
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's the same guy. Is how like his coaching

822
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: philosophy has changed at all. That their change and their

823
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: pivot back to success was just punning on Russell Wilson

824
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: and being right about it. Belichick has been wrong basically

825
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: everything he's done, from Matt Patricia to Mac Jones to

826
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: even Bill O'Brien this year, like nothing's working. And I

827
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: think that's a good example of the only coaches he

828
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: will go to are people he knows right. It's like, Bro,

829
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: you have to look outside yourself. But he's proven like

830
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: it's pointless to even say it. He's never gonna do that.

831
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Speaker 1: He never will do that. The other conversation is like,

832
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Speaker 1: just get him a GM, get him a guy. He's

833
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: not listening to anybody at this point in time, Like,

834
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Speaker 1: just fire him, just move on. We all know anyone

835
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Speaker 1: who was dumb enough beside a Colts fan or Patriot

836
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: fan to get up early for those of you on

837
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Speaker 1: the East coast, not matter early for those of us

838
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: on the West coast. You know you got to make

839
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an effort to watch the first

840
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: half of that game. Can't watch that game and think like, yeah,

841
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: I'd give Bill another go around. His resume speaks for itself.

842
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: But he's been paid for that, like he was confident

843
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: that's what the money was for, won a lot of games,

844
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: was paid a shitload of money. Is still paid a

845
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: shitload of money. But they're headed for two or three wins.

846
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: And mac Jones is just an unplayable guy. And I'll

847
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: say this till I'm blue in the face. Drafting him

848
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: at fifteen is a joke. I said it when Kyle

849
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Shanahan thought about drafting him at three that would be

850
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: the most arrogant draft pick in the history of professional sports.

851
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Luckily he didn't do it, and the guy he drafted

852
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: is a third sringer. Like all those quarterbacks suck. But

853
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: to me, Mac Jones historically is like a third or

854
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: fourth round guy. And just because you have success at

855
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: a powerhouse program doesn't mean you're gonna be good in

856
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. His traits did not translate, especially when you

857
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: don't have much talent around him, and we're seeing him

858
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: get worse and worse, and that's part of at any

859
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: time you lose confidence, I don't care what you do

860
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: in life, let alone play quarterback, which is extremely hard.

861
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have no shot. And he doesn't have any confidence,

862
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the skills to overcome that. And you're

863
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: watching a guy who's destined to be a backup. That's

864
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: what mac Jones is and there's another wrong with that.

865
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: It's hell of a profession. As Chase Daniels what it's

866
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: like to be a fourteen year backup, make a lot

867
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: of money. I mean, you get to do some fun stuff.

868
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Not everyone's meant to be a starting quarterback. Let's face it.

869
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: I'd say ten ten of the starting quarterbacks are typically

870
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: guys holding on for dear life for their starting quarterback.

871
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: But there's of the thirty two guys, there's twelve to

872
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: fourteen that are just their starting quarterback. Definitely seven or

873
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: eight that you feel really good about. The next seven,

874
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's very hard to upgrade, and then everyone else.

875
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: You're constantly looking and we'll upgrade at the moment's notice.

876
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: And Mac Jones at the bottom end of that really

877
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: trending toward being a backup, just like Baker Mayfields, like

878
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, Sam Darnold, and there's listen,

879
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL. You're one of the best forty

880
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. That's what he is. But when you expect

881
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: him to carry and make plays for a good team,

882
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: everyone's like, I can't believe he made that pass to

883
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: end the game. You can't have you not been watching him.

884
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: That is the past that he throws right to the

885
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: other team whoever is wearing the different color the other

886
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: jersey in big spots, that's who gets the ball. The

887
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: Patriots aren't going to catch the ball someone else on

888
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: the other team is. That's not being I'm not trying

889
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: to be a dick. I'm not trying to be even

890
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: sarcastic or make fun of him. That's just an objective fact.

891
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: He throws the ball to the other team constantly, and

892
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: a team that is just not very talented has no shot.

893
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: So let's face it, Bill has not been a GM

894
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: these last several years. His coaching staff has been abysmal,

895
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: been bottom in the NFL, and now his quarterback play

896
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: is atrocious. So yeah, this is what you get. And

897
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: if you're the Crafts, what would Bill have done to

898
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: this version of Bill Belichick in his heyday? Fired him?

899
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: Belichick's getting fired or traded or just not the coach

900
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots something that was kind of

901
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: a bright spot. And listen, I've I defended this move

902
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: because I was like I, I think there's a lot

903
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: of good that can come out of it. The one

904
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: negative is he gets injured and you owe him a

905
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: ton of money. But you were already cool with doing

906
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: that when you paid him the contract. So when Kyler,

907
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: and let's face it, all these organizations, the coach and

908
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: GM only have so much power. If the owner wants

909
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: to do something, the owner is going to do something.

910
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: So the moment owner signed Kyler Murray to that check

911
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: and that contract like he was going to get some shots,

912
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: as he should. So when Kyler Murray was named the

913
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback essentially this week and then played yesterday, like one,

914
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: he could look good and become a tradable asset. Two

915
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: he could look good and you like them and you

916
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: just keep them. And to me, that outweighs any of

917
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: the negative stuff because you were already cool when you

918
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: paid him the money that the whole thing could be

919
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: a disaster. Hell, they knew it when they did it,

920
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: because they gave him the video game contract or clause

921
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: in the contract. So yesterday I was pretty impressed for

922
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't played in a year to go

923
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 1: nineteen to thirty two. And to me, the impressive part

924
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: is physically. I don't know if he's one hundred percent,

925
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: but he's definitely closer to one hundred that he is

926
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: seventy five eighty. He looked explosive as a runner. Here's

927
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: the thing, like my issue with Bryce Young, I just

928
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: don't see anything right. I just I think for him

929
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: to be a solid player, he's gonna have to have

930
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: the perfect team around him, perfect coach Kyler's attributes are elite.

931
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: He has an elite arm, he has elite speed. He's

932
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: a really accurate quarterback. He can throw from him the

933
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: pocket and without Now he's not I wouldn't stake my

934
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: claim as the number one guy I would want, but

935
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I do understand why people like him. I've seen him. Hell,

936
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: I've seen him light up the forty nine ers. I've

937
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 1: seen him light up a lot of good teams over

938
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: when he's playing well. He is a big time talent,

939
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: and I think you saw some of that on display now.

940
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: The one negative of playing him is you're gonna win

941
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: a lot of these swing games. If Kyler Murray doesn't

942
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: play against the Atlanta Falcons, no matter how big of

943
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: a disaster their kind of quarterback turnstile situation is, Arizona loses.

944
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: You play them in a lot of these games, like

945
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: when you play the Rams, when you play teams like Atlanta,

946
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: that could be the difference of six wins or three wins.

947
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: And I think they're cool with doing that because that

948
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: probably a positive for them. They got a couple of

949
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: picks because remember they traded down with Houston, so they

950
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: have their pick which probably gonna be like in the

951
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: early twenties. So if their pick ends up at ten,

952
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: you got two picks in the top twenty and maybe

953
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: just keep Kyler and roll with it. I think that

954
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: is definitely on the table, and if you want to,

955
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: you always could trade him. And he keeps making plays

956
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: like that, you don't think the Atlanta Falcons or one

957
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: of these teams will give you. I don't know his

958
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: contracts big, but two two's in a three, maybe you

959
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: get a one, but you definitely because of the if

960
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: they take the money, I think definitely get some second

961
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: round picks, so you could reload pivot and draft one

962
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks and just kind of restart your franchise.

963
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: So I think their options are are plentiful and to me,

964
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: a lot of good options. And like I said, if

965
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I was a betting man right now and we only

966
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: have one game to go off of the way they

967
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: named him a team captain, maybe they like him. Maybe

968
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's not fake, Maybe they legitimately like him as

969
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: a guy. Because we can only go off our experiences

970
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: around other individuals. Hearsay and perception from other people. Obviously

971
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: that can influence us. But then once we're around the guy,

972
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: if we do like him and things are going right,

973
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we feel strongly about that individual. Now, you've

974
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: got to prove it over time when there's a lot

975
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: of negativity surrounding you, as there is with Kyler, with

976
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: some of his previous relationships with the head coach and

977
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: some of the teammates. But maybe he's doing a really

978
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: good job. And let's face it, if you're a competitor,

979
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: some of us guys mature a little later if you

980
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: get humbled in the way he did, Like everyone was

981
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: talking about him, and a lot of it was self inflicted,

982
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: from the video game clause to the way he acted

983
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: to just the whole situation to get in everyone fired,

984
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: Like ultimately those guys were fired because of him. And

985
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe it's humbling as a young guy. Maybe it makes

986
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: you look in the mirror and want to change and

987
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: want to improve, And sometimes that happens, like not everyone

988
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, this guy's kind of a d bag,

989
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: just a d bag for life. Some people change, like, actually,

990
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: this guy's really grown up. That can't happen. So I'm

991
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: not saying that has I don't know. I don't have

992
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: any inside information here. Jonathan Gannon is not my buddy,

993
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: but I do think that is potentially on the table.

994
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: A couple quick college things first and foremost with Jim Harbaugh,

995
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a decision as a leader, have

996
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: some fucking balls, like if you are gonna follow the mob,

997
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: and there's nothing I respect less than people to just

998
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: follow the mob from leadership positions like have conviction in

999
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: what you want to do. Don't get influenced by the

1000
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: appers by everyone talking, whether it's companies based on social media,

1001
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: whether it's all these coaches to Tony Pettiti in the

1002
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: Big Ten. If you want to suspend them, listen, that's

1003
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: your prerogative. You're in that position, do it, but suspend

1004
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: them like you're suspended for the end of the season.

1005
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: You can come back in the playoffs or whatever, right

1006
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: because we don't have any jurisdiction over that. But every

1007
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten game moving forward, you're not allowed to coach.

1008
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, because, as I've been

1009
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: saying forever, everyone's cheating. Welcome to business. Every fucking person's

1010
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope. Some people push it farther. But I'm

1011
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: watching the show on Uber right now on Netflix. Highly

1012
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's a good watch. The coach from Friday

1013
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: Night Lights Is plays a big role in the show,

1014
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: is like an investor or in Uber. But it's like

1015
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: they would not have became what they became without pushing

1016
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: the envelope. Some of it you could argue was illegal,

1017
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: but all these companies that are running America probably did

1018
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot of illegal activity. Right, Just like you, if

1019
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: you're listening to this and you run a small business,

1020
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: you've done things that can make you uncomfortable. Right, You're like, ah,

1021
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 1: should we do this? And sometimes it works out great

1022
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: and you look back five years and you laugh about

1023
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: it, You like, can you believe when we did that? That's

1024
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: the way the world works. The actions on the edge

1025
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: is baby. So I don't have an issue with what

1026
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: they did because I also think everyone's doing it at

1027
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: least two degrees of it. So anyone acting high and mighty,

1028
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm just calling bullshit on But when I look at

1029
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: the suspension, like you can't let him coach during the

1030
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: week and then suspend him on game day, that is

1031
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: just gutlass. And I don't I don't know anything about

1032
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: this Tony Patiti guy, but all I need to know

1033
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: is the actions which he gave on the suspension, like

1034
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: he was forced from the coaches to do something, but

1035
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: he didn't want to go all the way because he

1036
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: didn't think he could. Maybe he didn't have the evidence.

1037
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he didn't do it. So I

1038
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: just think it's so stupid and hopefully for all of

1039
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: our sake, Like listen, I'm full disclosure, Like I have

1040
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: no problem telling you my bibes hate the Lakers. I

1041
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: don't like Ohio State. Honestly, I don't really have a

1042
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: problem historically with Ohio State. I just don't really like

1043
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. I don't even know why. Just don't really

1044
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: like him. Maybe it's the way he dies his beard.

1045
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it's as Hardbas said born on third base. I

1046
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: don't really like his coaching style. They've been better this

1047
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: year defensively obviously, but I just I can't get behind it.

1048
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly Guy, I don't know. I root against them,

1049
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: but this is even my bias for Hard about which

1050
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: I am a fan. I just think it's stupid and

1051
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you couldn't disagree with going either

1052
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: fully suspend him or do nothing and wait for the

1053
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote due process to play out us. He is

1054
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: a joke. It really is. And anyone that listens to

1055
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: the podcast with Coward that I did on Sunday night, like,

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: I do believe this. I'm not just saying this. If

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00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: I was Lincoln Riley, I would look at USC and

1058
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: be like, listen, this is not gonna work out. I

1059
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: belong in Texas and go to coach Texas A and M.

1060
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: I think that would be a much better fit. And

1061
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: I do believe. I'm not like just saying this like

1062
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. And I've believed this for a while.

1063
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: Where you're from in college football influences how how high

1064
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: your upside is. It's why where I'm from, the pac twelve,

1065
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: the West Coast, most of our best coaches have been

1066
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: West Coast guys. Right. Pete Carroll born in San Francisco,

1067
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: went to University of Pacific, Chris Peterson, Jeff Tedford, LA guy,

1068
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: UC Davis, Fresno State guy. So when he kicked asset

1069
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: cow and he kicked out at Washington and Boise State,

1070
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: that's where they're from. Michael Blotti, coach at Oregon that

1071
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: resurrected that program. You know where he's from, went to

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: UC Davis, No different in the South. Kirby Smart, where

1073
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: do you think he's from? Steve Spurrier, where do you

1074
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: think he's from? Nick Saban's dad owned a gas station

1075
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Fits the South, understands the South. Where's

1076
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: he had success? LSU Alabama? Right in theory, Jimbo should

1077
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: have worked, but he just lost his touch, or maybe

1078
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: he was always kind of overrated. But Jimbo's only going

1079
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: to work in the South. Dabo Sweeney, where does he

1080
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: work the South? So to me, where you're from matters,

1081
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: and this Lincoln Riley thing just doesn't work. USC needs

1082
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 1: a little juice. He hates defense. The program was built

1083
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: on defense. In his heyday, they had like all eleven

1084
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: of their guys were NFL players, and not just any

1085
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: NFL players, highly drafted an NFL player. So I don't

1086
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. But I just don't see him

1087
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: turning it around. And I just don't see it working out.

1088
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: I really don't. And there's nothing against the guy philosophical.

1089
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: We don't exactly view football the same way. But I

1090
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: have always been a Lincoln Riley fan, and I think

1091
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: for him to have the Southwest is where he belongs

1092
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: from Texas, had a lot of success in Oklahoma. To me,

1093
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: he would have much more success at Texas A and M.

1094
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: And honestly, Lane Kiffin makes a lot of sense at USC.

1095
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: More of a bright light sky, more willing to just

1096
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: handle everything that comes with it. Like he's peaked at

1097
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: Old Miss. You win eight nine games, you get him

1098
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: ranked in the top twenty five. That's as good as

1099
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: that program is. And I know he's been at USC before,

1100
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: and I know he got fired on the tarmac, But

1101
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: I personally I think those two fits make a lot

1102
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: more sense than linking at USC in Lane, Who's I

1103
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: got news for you, old mis fans. He's been trying

1104
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: to get out for a couple of years now. He's

1105
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: got some baggage off the field, make some eighties uncomfortable.

1106
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: When Dan Lanney got the job at Oregon, Lane wanted

1107
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: it and they went with Landing over Lane. But Lane's

1108
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: a legitimate head coach. Jayde Daniels, his stats are stupid.

1109
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of that Florida LSU game. I'd

1110
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: be lying if I've watched much of LSU the last

1111
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: probably month. Obviously, I've seen the guy stats watch them

1112
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: early in the season. I mean I followed his career.

1113
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: He's from ASU. Sometimes the transfer portal the smartest thing

1114
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: you can ever do. Like here's where I respect. A

1115
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: lot of people have all these opinions on NIL and

1116
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: transfer portal, like Jade Daniels. Think about the guy started

1117
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: at ASU a program that sucks. Herm Edwards has been

1118
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: cool to me whenever I've been around him, But think

1119
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: about this, Herm Edwards coached ASU for five years, he

1120
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: gets fired, he goes back to TV, and you go, God,

1121
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: I bet five years in college football, the Pac twelve recruiting.

1122
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: They don't let him touch anything in college Why he

1123
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything? He didn't know the players on his

1124
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: own roster. So Jayden Daniels gets out of there, goes

1125
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: to LSU, and it has become I don't want to

1126
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: say the Heisman front runner because I think betting wise

1127
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: bo Nick still is. But he's having an incredible season

1128
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: and for a team. I mean LSU to me when

1129
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: I think about him, historically, really good defense pat ain't

1130
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: the case here Without him, who knows where they'd be.

1131
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect when guys transfer to

1132
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: better schools. Isn't that the point we all want to

1133
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: do better for ourselves. For in a shitty neighborhood, what

1134
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: do you want to get to a better neighborhood? If

1135
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: you're making fifty grand, what do you ultimately want one

1136
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand? If you're making two hunder grand,

1137
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: what do you want six hundred grand? Like you're always

1138
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: aspiring for more? So, if I'm at ASU, why wouldn't

1139
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: I want to go to LSU? And before that was

1140
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: you were allowed to transfer, but it was so much

1141
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: more difficult yet to sit out a year. It forced

1142
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys to probably want to leave. But

1143
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: hold on and listen, there are parts of it that

1144
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't love. But I completely understand this move, and

1145
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: it's worked wonders for this guy because you keep having

1146
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: these moments in the I think when the dust settles,

1147
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna get drafted in the first round and last

1148
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: but not least. I mean. I speaking of USC watching,

1149
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: I watched about three corps that Oregon USC game. It

1150
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: was jav versus Arsity and listen, USC is not very good,

1151
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. The score did not reflect what I witnessed. Honestly,

1152
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Caleb Williams pulling plays out of

1153
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: his ass. Oregon, mollywop. Those guys. They have a national

1154
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: championship level team. Now are they gonna win it? I

1155
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I feel great putting my money on them.

1156
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I still think Georgia is a mother. Whoever comes out

1157
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: of the Ohio State Michigan game, it is gonna be really,

1158
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: really tough. Texas's team, I don't trust their coach, but

1159
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: their team is just incredibly talented. Though I think I

1160
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: saw their running back got injured. It's hard to know

1161
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: exactly Florida State, but Florida State definitely doesn't suck. But

1162
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: you watch Oregon and they're gonna get their chance play

1163
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Washington in the rematch in the championship game in Las Vegas.

1164
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: That game is gonna be fucking awesome. Can't wait for

1165
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: that thing, But it's on the table. The Dan Landing

1166
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: has a shot second year. Remember Bob Stoop's second year

1167
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma National Championship. You do something like that, it

1168
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: changes the course of your career as a coach, and

1169
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: you know you can some of these names A and

1170
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: M's throwing out there, like we're interested in Dan Campbell.

1171
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: No One leaves a good NFL job, and a good

1172
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: NFL job is just one you're winning at to go

1173
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: to college football. An NIL transfer portal news for you.

1174
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell should get an extension. Pay him twelve fifteen

1175
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He ain't leaving the Lions for

1176
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: your job. And if I'm Dan Lanning, like, I'm just

1177
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: not leaving Oregon, they can pay me. I'm going to

1178
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, so I'm in one of the main

1179
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: two conferences and it's just a little easier routes. The

1180
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: other thing, why would I want to deal with A

1181
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: and M. Some of these programs have a false sense

1182
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: of who they are. Like A and M, You're just

1183
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: not that great of a football program. You're never gonna

1184
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: be You're gonna have some moments. You're gonna produce some

1185
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: NFL guys. You're never gonna be Alabama, never gonna be LSU,

1186
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be Georgia. Like hell, I don't ever

1187
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: see you becoming what Oregon's become. You can get great players,

1188
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: some I'm just off. I don't know what. I've never

1189
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: even been there, but I've just watched college football for

1190
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: thirty years and I always hear I got all this money,

1191
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: they got all these recruits, like, I don't give a fuck.

1192
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: They stink and I have no faith that they're gonna

1193
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: get this right. Okay, let's go a little mailbag how

1194
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. Fire in those dms at John

1195
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: Middlecoff on Instagram at John Middlecoff on Instagram and get

1196
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: your question answered here on the show, very very easy.

1197
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: A huge Niner fan wanted to ask your thoughts on

1198
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels and if you think Kyle would be able

1199
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: to develop a quarterback like him. I know we have Purdy,

1200
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: but do you think we could trade Purty and pick

1201
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: and a pick to try to get Jayden Dehendels? Would

1202
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: it even be worth it? By the way, any meat

1203
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: we can get, any any way we can get more content.

1204
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: I have a really good inside what goes through the league.

1205
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. I would say, no, Kyle Shanahan loves Brock Purty.

1206
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: Rock Perty is going nowhere. They're not going to trade

1207
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: for a quarterback unless he gets seriously injured. So Brock

1208
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Purty is going to be the forty nine Ers quarterback

1209
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: for these next couple of years. I mean, he makes

1210
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars, and I mean against the Jags,

1211
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: he was freaking awesome. He played Trevor Lawrence. So I'm

1212
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: not acting like the guy's Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen, but

1213
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: he's just not going anywhere and they're not going to

1214
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: get in the quarterback carousel. After going through the Jimmy

1215
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Trey Lance situation, they feel comfortable with this guy. The

1216
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: team really likes him. That's the other thing. Like Fred Warner,

1217
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, deebo I, U Kittle, Trent, their best players

1218
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: swear by this guy. So when you get the buy

1219
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: in from your star players on a quarterback and he's

1220
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: not a scrub, you just you got to write it

1221
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: out and see what he can do. And I would

1222
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: say this, some of Brock's picks have been atrocious, and

1223
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: the one in Minnesota, now he had a concussion, he

1224
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: threw two picks, but the ones in Cincinnati were just inexcusable,

1225
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: and they it wasn't all his fault. The defense was atrocious,

1226
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: but it definitely sealed the deal. But he's a really

1227
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: explosive quarterback. I mean he averages. I mean you just

1228
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: look at the box score after most games, he's like

1229
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: ten to eleven yards an attempt. You look at a

1230
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks like six seven yards attempts. He

1231
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: pushes the ball down the field. He throws bombs. Relative

1232
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers offense, which has always kind

1233
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: of been a little dink and dunk with Jimmy and Kyle,

1234
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: why does Trevor Lawrence get a pass with the majority

1235
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: of the media. He has more turnovers ten than touchdowns

1236
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: nine in this season. People still talk about him like

1237
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: he's more than a game manager. His stats are identical

1238
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: to Mac Jones through forty games. He clearly has a

1239
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: top ten offensive weapons in the league, and his defense

1240
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: has been mostly solid. Is it simply because he's been

1241
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: so hyped up since his high school years, whereas the

1242
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: media's inability to admit they overhyped a player. The upside

1243
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: is clearly there. But getting tired of people acting like

1244
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: he's already there. Whenever I talked to buddies in the NFL,

1245
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: and I was always victim of this as like it

1246
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,959
Speaker 1: comes naturally to me to get in on the hype

1247
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: cycle and hype things up. The NFL is not big

1248
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: on hype, Like you can't go to a draft room

1249
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: and just use hype like, this guy's really sweet, this

1250
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: guy number one overall pick, this guy's a top ten pick. Well,

1251
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: why explain it to me? Show me right, and most

1252
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: people of us that talk about it for a living,

1253
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: but specifically, you know people that don't know anything about football,

1254
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: it's easy to just kind of ride that avalanche of

1255
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: a hype train. And his hype train got pretty high. Now.

1256
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: People I knew in the NFL loved him as a prospect.

1257
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: He is a legit prospect coming out of college. The height,

1258
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: the weight of the athleticism, his arm is really good.

1259
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it great. The accuracy, but let's face it,

1260
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: there is some deer in the headlights moments with them

1261
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: and when you hit them. Now, you could argue when

1262
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: you hit any quarterback, but a lot of times with

1263
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback, they should be able to kind of

1264
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: create some things and get away from some things, like

1265
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes can do, like Josh Allen can do, like Lamar

1266
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Jackson can do, like Russell Wilson used to do. Why

1267
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: the Browns gave Deshaun Watts all that money to do?

1268
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray like make some shit happen, and you watch

1269
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: games like yesterday, which is his low point. But it's like, bro,

1270
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: you got anything else in the bag. Sometimes you can

1271
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: watch something like that and go I don't see it.

1272
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: And yesterday I was getting texts from scouts that are like, God,

1273
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: this guy's really overrated and you're not alone. Now I

1274
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: compare him to Mac Jones. There ain't a team in

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01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: the league. There's not a coach in the league. There's

1276
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 1: not a GM in the league. There's not an owner

1277
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: in the league. If you had Trevor Lawrence and the

1278
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: other team had Mac Jones, no one would trade Trevor

1279
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence from Mac Jones. Not a soul, not one. And

1280
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: this is why you can't box score scout. One guy

1281
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: is way more talented, like Mac Jones, doesn't have that

1282
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: much talent relative do NFL players. He's a low end talent,

1283
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: not debatable, that's an objective. In fact, average arm, not

1284
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: great movement, not that accurate, not an explosive player, not

1285
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: that instinctive. Clearly, so, I think that's a little harsh,

1286
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: but I hear what you're saying. Numbers don't lie sometimes,

1287
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: huge Steeler fan, but I wanted to get your thoughts

1288
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: on Kenny Pickett. The last two games has been some

1289
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: of the worst games of his career. He's missing throws,

1290
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: walking in the sacks, etc. Also weird stat of is

1291
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: in his last twelve games that he finishes the games

1292
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: he's eleven and one. Well, I think we've talked about

1293
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: this before. I didn't watch that much of the game

1294
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: yesterday just because I'm not watching the Packers like I'm

1295
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: not watching Jordan Love and I've watched you guys for

1296
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: thirty plus years far of Rogers that they mattered. From

1297
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: what I do, I've talked about him NonStop on this show.

1298
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: When I was in the NFL. They were just something

1299
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: we were always talking about. When I was on radio,

1300
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: we talked, I mean, they're just they mattered that they

1301
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: were one of the biggest brands in the NFL, and

1302
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: their brand is still massive. But the team is unwatchable.

1303
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a Jordan Love guy, don't see it. He

1304
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: will not be the quarterback next year. But when they're

1305
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: playing somebody, they're to me like a third TV team,

1306
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: like they just peek over there. I don't think the

1307
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: Packers are gonna win, like you guys were never gonna

1308
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: lose that game. I don't care how close it got.

1309
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: I don't care how great the dB play was to

1310
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: bounce it off him to get the pick of the

1311
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: pick at the end of the game. But I don't

1312
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: see it, man. I with Jordan Love Kenny Pickett, he's

1313
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: had some remarkable fourth quarter drives after playing shitty. So

1314
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: you've won a lot of those games. So a lot

1315
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: of that eleven and one is a lot of bad

1316
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: games and then coming through in the clutch. I don't know, man,

1317
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: I think there's a little when you get in business

1318
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: with the Mac Joneses, with the Jimmy Garoppolos, with the

1319
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Picketts, everything with Derek Carr, everything has to be

1320
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: perfect around them for them to excel. Offensive line, running back, weapons,

1321
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, slash, play calling. It all has to be

1322
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: in sync because if it's not, it will not look good.

1323
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: If one thing is off right. For Mac Jones, he's

1324
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: not that good coordinator, Bill O'Brien probably not that good.

1325
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: Team's not that good. You're just gonna lose every week.

1326
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: Canny Pickett, you have good talent around him. Warren can

1327
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,879
Speaker 1: make plays, Pickens can make plays, Deontay Thompson can make plays.

1328
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: The defense can make plays. But the coordinator's not great,

1329
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: and then his confidence WANs and he's not talented enough

1330
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: to kind of pull stuff out of his ass. So

1331
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: my issue always is whenever you draft an average talent

1332
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: super high, you're gonna have more downs than ups. You

1333
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: just are. So I was not a big Kenny Pickett

1334
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: guy coming out of college, though I kind of bought

1335
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: into it this offseason, and I was just wrong. I

1336
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: should have stuck with my guns. Those aren't my type

1337
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they really struggle to excel in the NFL.

1338
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: I would say Cousins is kind of an outlier over

1339
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: the last like fifteen years, right, for a guy that's

1340
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: not Drew Brees is like the best version short average arm.

1341
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: Cousins is bigger and his arm got better as he

1342
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: got older. But for the most part, like those guys

1343
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: don't really excel. They just don't. It's very, very difficult

1344
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: to have a good career. Hey, John got one for

1345
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 1: the mailbag? Did Colin put a moratorium on talking about

1346
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: anything related to Sean Watson? I feel like Lamar had

1347
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: beat the best defense in football. It would have been

1348
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: a big point of praise for you to recap seriously

1349
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: in our show, and you don't talk about the best

1350
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: game of the day with the biggest playoff implications. Seems

1351
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: like malpractice and blatant disregard for football fans who would

1352
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: have loved to hear your thoughts on the most physical

1353
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: game with the biggest stars, would love to know. Well,

1354
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: there's no never any more oratorium. I talked about it

1355
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: earlier on this show. You can see it either on

1356
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: the podcast or one of our other videos. I give

1357
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: you my thoughts on Deshaun Watson and the Ravens, but

1358
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: there's no We just talk about what we're talking about. Hey,

1359
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: I just talk about what we're excited to talk about.

1360
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: We can't make everybody happy, And I don't think it's malpractice.

1361
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: It just didn't come up. Other things came up, And

1362
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Browns fans like you don't just get to

1363
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: be shitty for twenty years and win a big game

1364
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: and think everyone has to talk about you, like you

1365
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: gave two hundred and thirty million dollars to a fucking

1366
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: quarterback who had half a Texas coming after his ass.

1367
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna get some more negativity than positivity.

1368
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: You ain't the Yankees, you ain't the Lakers. This isn't

1369
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Like the football business has been booming without

1370
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: you guys, so sometimes you get forgotten. You just do.

1371
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: Why do the Ravens tend to probably get more praise

1372
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: than you guys. I don't know. Google their resumes. Nothing

1373
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: personal against the franchise, It's all based on history. In

1374
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: your history, pretty freaking ugly. Is Mike Tomlin the most

1375
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: underrated coach in the NFL today? I don't know why

1376
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I got so mad they were talking about the Browns.

1377
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: He's winning with Kenny Pickett, and I don't see as

1378
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: a major upgrade over Mac Jones. Yet the Steelers and

1379
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots are headed in the opposite direction in twenty three.

1380
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: If Belichick and Tomlin were both available to coach my franchise,

1381
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: I'd go with Mike. He's never had a losing season

1382
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: and seems to understand the importance of being able to communicate.

1383
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Am I crazy to think Mike is better than Bill

1384
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: at this point in time in his career? Two things

1385
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: Mike has clearly Bill is over dealing with players any

1386
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: issues him and Mack like. He's not dealing with young

1387
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: guys and dealing with their shit. And Tomlin is clearly

1388
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: a just easier dude to talk to. Right, And I'm

1389
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: Mike is not mister happy go lucky either. Right. It's

1390
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: not all sunshine and rainbows with Mike Tomlin, but I

1391
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's easier for him to deal with guys than

1392
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: it is Belichick in twenty twenty three. Right, And that

1393
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: matters because of just the way guys are wired young

1394
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: people coming into the league. The other thing Mike has

1395
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,919
Speaker 1: that Bill refuses to have. Mike doesn't pick the players.

1396
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: They've had a strong GM. Their owner plays a big

1397
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: role in philosophically who they draft. Belichick, every single player

1398
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: on that team is rubber stamped by William Belichick. Mike

1399
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: Tomlin ain't picking every player. So the reason the Steelers

1400
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: have been so talented my entire life, from Cower to

1401
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Tomlin is their GM plays a role, Their front office

1402
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: plays a role. Front office ain't fucking doing shit in

1403
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: New England. Bill's picking the players. Bill's picking them all.

1404
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, Bill as a coach, right, just

1405
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: coaching a team on a given week. If you gave

1406
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: Tom on the same team as Tomlin's team's way better.

1407
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: Why because he ain't picking the player Most coaches can't

1408
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: pick the players, right. You don't want most coaches picking

1409
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: all the players, right. I'm not saying they don't have influence,

1410
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: but most coaches would be bad. GM Bill is proven

1411
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: in his seventies to be currently an awful GM. Toma

1412
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be the GM. Why because I

1413
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: got guys to do that. I feel like due to

1414
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: quarterback inflation, we try and convince ourselves on these quarterbacks

1415
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: every year, when time and time history shows two, maybe

1416
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: three of these quarterbacks will be serviceable at best. Caleb

1417
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: Williams never jumped off my screen as a super elite

1418
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: talent ever. Good defense, he plays, he crumbles, And then

1419
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: we get Drake May. I've lived in Raleigh, ACC Country,

1420
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: and they simply don't play anybody. It's literally mis Trubisky

1421
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: all over again. I just think we overvalue, almost purely

1422
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: based on the description on the desperation. What do you

1423
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: think are most of these guys overhyped? I remember watching

1424
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: Drake May. Who were they playing? Whatever game they lost

1425
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: they lost to Wake Forest. I forget they lost NC State,

1426
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: I forget their first lost. They've lost. They lost another

1427
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: game since the hell they almost lost the other night.

1428
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I think to Duke in overtime. I was watch him

1429
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: and I'd watched clips and bits and pieces of his games,

1430
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: but I mean, start to finish, I forget who they

1431
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: were playing. It was whoever they lost to first on

1432
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: the CW, he was just not very good relative to

1433
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: the hype. Again, good prospect, he's six ' five, he's big,

1434
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: he's got a solid arm. But I wasn't going got

1435
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: this is the next coming of Andrew Lucke, this is

1436
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: the next Josh Allen. It's like a good player potentially

1437
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: goes to the right spot. Caleb. I've been all over

1438
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: the place on Caleb. I'll say this. Watching the Oregon game,

1439
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 1: their offensive line, there were dudes on Oregon. There was

1440
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: a guy minimum every play in the backfield. I mean,

1441
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: their offensive line is so shitty. At USC, Lincoln Riley

1442
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: should be ashamed of himself. Whoever their offensive line coaches

1443
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: should be relieved of his duties. Because Caleb Williams was

1444
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: running for his life. And I saw Daniel Jeremiah, who

1445
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: I used to work with in Philly and I'm known

1446
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: for ever say you know, I want to evaluate Caleb

1447
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: inside the pocket. We know outside the pocket ad libbing,

1448
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: He's elite, but in the NFL, the game is a

1449
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: lot of the game. Even though, like mahomes Allen, all

1450
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: these guys Burrow make plays outside the pocket, but you

1451
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: do have to excel inside the pocket. How do you

1452
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: excel inside the pocket if there's a dude hitting you

1453
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: every single play. So I think he's over hyped. Just

1454
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: he's a six foot quarterback. Yeah, he's got great skills,

1455
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: big arm, accurate down the field, strong, he's thick. But

1456
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: let's we anoint all these guys. Next, Peyton Manning, next

1457
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,879
Speaker 1: Andrew Locke. No, none of these guys are Kayleb Williams

1458
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: a really good prospect. Drake may is a really good prospect,

1459
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: but there are definitely red flags. You better have a

1460
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: good team, You better have a good coach, better have

1461
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: a good play caller. We'll get Bryce Young. I liked

1462
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: him a lot in college. I underestimated how tiny he

1463
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: would look. But then he goes Frank. I'm sorry. I

1464
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 1: don't think Frank Reich's any good. Their talent definitely is

1465
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: not any good. So if you don't have the physical skills,

1466
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: and I put you on that team, like Caleb Williams

1467
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: is a much better prospect than Bryce Young, But if

1468
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: I put K Caleb Williams on Carolina, they would be shitty.

1469
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be any good. They might be a little better,

1470
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't be that much better. And you never know.

1471
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: The other thing you can't value because it's impossible are

1472
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: the intangibles, your focus, your drive, your ability to study.

1473
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: Like one thing I heard t Bob on the Guys

1474
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: on Snaps talking about and he's a big LSU guy

1475
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: played there and he covers them, you know, on a

1476
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: local radio show, so he just knows a lot about

1477
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: the programs. Like Jade Daniels study in film three days

1478
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: a week, like five, five thirty in the morning. He

1479
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: put a lot of emphasis on his game and getting better, right,

1480
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: So that matters. Most of the great players in my

1481
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: lifetime really try. Patrick Mahomes gives you a plus effort.

1482
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: It gives you everything. He's got Joe Burrow all in

1483
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: on football. It's thing with Trevor Lawrence. He even said,

1484
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: like football is not my everything. Well, I'm sorry, I'm

1485
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you two hundred million dollars. Someone's giving me

1486
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars to do. Let's say I'm a podcaster,

1487
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: so if you're gonna give me two hundred million dollars,

1488
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: you're getting my fucking all. It's my life. I think

1489
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: you know this is little balance that's part of life

1490
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: like everyone, and I know it's very in vogue, like

1491
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: balance in life. Yeah, for sure, if you work nine

1492
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: to five, I don't expect you to take home your

1493
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: company's problems. That's on them, especially if you're not making

1494
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: that much money. You can do whatever you want. Punch in,

1495
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: punch out, that's fine. But when you get paid millions

1496
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: upon millions, it's the organization's fault if they give those

1497
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: that money to a guy that's not all in, like

1498
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was addicted, Tom Brady addicted, Steph Curry addicted.

1499
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: Not the biggest lebron guy. But I'll give him credit

1500
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: like he's all in. Well, unless your team sucks, then

1501
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: they'll pivot and quit. But your team's good. He gives

1502
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: you max effort, He gives you max energy towards his craft.

1503
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: Like when you get to high dollar amounts, you know

1504
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: the pie chart of your balance in life. Better lean

1505
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: to whatever you're getting paid to do. I'm sorry if

1506
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: that makes some people uncomfortable. Hell, when I was making

1507
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: no money in this profession, wanting to make it. When

1508
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: I was in the NFL to when I started talking

1509
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: about football, like my balance was kind of limited. I

1510
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: don't go on that many vacations. My life, you know,

1511
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: in my twenties and thirties, you know, was dedicated around

1512
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: football for six eight months a year. Limited stuff going

1513
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: on as part of life. You know. It's just that's

1514
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: the way it goes. Now. There have been a lot

1515
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: of players in sports that aren't addicted, and most of

1516
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: those guys, I would say, underachieve, and a lot of

1517
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: those guys when they get paid big money, never live

1518
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: up to the to the billing. Why because it's impossible

1519
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: to be great in my opinion, if you're not addicted

1520
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: to your craft. It's just this. And maybe I'm wrong,

1521
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: maybe there are certain crafts where you can get away

1522
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: with it. And again, part of like my job now,

1523
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: having interesting stuff to talk to. I'm not saying like

1524
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: I don't go out to dinner or don't go play

1525
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: golf sometimes and hang out. It's not what I'm saying.

1526
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: But there's no vacations on Saturday and Sunday for me,

1527
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, because listen, I'm not acting like I'm digging ditches,

1528
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm not, but like I don't. I gotta watch football.

1529
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: That's my job. Whatever your job is, you know, if

1530
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: you're if you want to have success, it probably takes

1531
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: an allotment of your time that is more than some

1532
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: will be willing to do. And that's just the reality

1533
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: with some of these prospects when you evaluate them. Right,

1534
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 1: So if Drake may or Caleb Williams or bow Knicks

1535
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: or Michael Pennix or Jaden Daniels or JJ McCarthy or

1536
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: whoever these players are, what's gonna because a lot of them,

1537
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: like I've seen all of them, they all have a

1538
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: lot of talent, right, Caleb, big arm, Drake pretty good arm,

1539
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: bow Knicks, Pennis can throw the ball well, all good athletes.

1540
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. Same thing, Like, are are these guys gonna

1541
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: be addicted to their craft? Are they gonna fucking give

1542
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: everything they have to the sport of football? Because if

1543
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: they do, and that doesn't even guarantee you anything, but

1544
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: if they do, they're gonna have a chance, because that's

1545
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: what most of the good to great players have had

1546
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right, Like, I'll give you an example,

1547
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: like Derek Carr. I think he devotes a large percentage

1548
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: of his time of his life to his craft. He's

1549
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: just not good anymore. And whether that's because he flinches

1550
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: now in the pocket, because he doesn't trust some of

1551
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: his previous injuries, whatever, he's just not as good as

1552
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: he once was, right, But it's not like he maximized

1553
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: his talent. Do the Vikings just trade let Cousins walk

1554
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: and keep Dobbs? Well, they can't trade Cousins because his

1555
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: contract runs out and he's not franchisable, So I think

1556
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: they're in a complicated situation. He was going to be

1557
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: really expensive when you factored in how well he was playing,

1558
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: but the Achilles changed was a lot. You know. I

1559
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: know Aaron Rodgers thinks he can come back in three

1560
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: months from an Achilles' injury. Most guys take a year,

1561
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: and most guys after that year aren't as good. Take

1562
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Right, And depending on who you are,

1563
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: your athleticism, your physical makeup, things I can't even pretend

1564
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: to know about, you might never be the same right now.

1565
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: There was a lot of wear and tear on Kobe Bryant,

1566
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: but he was obviously never the same after that injury.

1567
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson, who had less wear and tear than Kobe,

1568
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: has never even remotely been the same after his Achilles injury.

1569
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: So Kirk cousins game is not predicated like theirs on

1570
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: jumping and cutting. But still, like I mean, it's pretty important,

1571
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: and I just I have a lot of respect for him,

1572
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: how much he maximized his game, how good he became.

1573
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: But I'd be lying if I said I was confident

1574
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: that he's gonna come back and be a pro Bowl

1575
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: level guy. Right, And just like if I was them,

1576
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: would I be comfortable? What's the number? Because would I

1577
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: take him back on one year, ten million dollar deal

1578
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: or something like one? But am I doing a one

1579
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: year thirty million dollar deal for a guy coming off

1580
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: of achilles? It's thirty six years old? Josh Dobbs, What

1581
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: do we say about it last week? It's having the

1582
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: skill of being adaptable. Something I don't know about you guys.

1583
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: I struggle with you know sometimes like I can be

1584
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: very rigid, but just hey, deal with whatever's throwing at

1585
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: Just roll with the punches, which is easier said than done. Right,

1586
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: getting traded new playbook, not knowing guy's names. Most of

1587
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: us that would be very, very difficult. I don't care

1588
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: how how good a character guy you are, how open

1589
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: minded you are, how willing you are to work, that

1590
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: would have been very difficult. And he is. He's having

1591
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: one of the cooler seasons in like NFL history, not

1592
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: one of the best, Like he's not throwing for fifty

1593
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: touchdowns or he's gonna win a super Bowl. But I

1594
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: think he's just having a season. Like remember Joshua Dobbs

1595
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. You know that meme that's going

1596
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: around right now with Vince McMahon of him talking about

1597
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: the Undertaker and being choked up. You do that when

1598
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: you talk about Joshua Dobbs in twenty twenty three. Guy,

1599
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say written off. He was just irrelevant,

1600
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: And then you just find out more about the guy

1601
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: and he's a root for Then he gets traded after

1602
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: they said they wouldn't trade him. I mean two weeks ago,

1603
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon told him he would trade him, and then

1604
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: he said he told me I was gonna start, and

1605
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: then he starts naming the other guy starters. And he

1606
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: goes to Minnesota, which is a way better spot than Arizona,

1607
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: given that they're they're gonna make the playoffs. I watched

1608
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: a decent amount of that game because I was interested

1609
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. They were beating the shit out of

1610
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: the Saints. They were clowning the same It was twenty

1611
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: four to three. Wasn't even close. If it wouldn't have

1612
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: been for Jamis coming to that game and giving them

1613
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: a little life, I think the Vikings might have won

1614
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: that thing, like forty to ten. But what a story, man,

1615
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: What a cool story. What an easy guy to root for?

1616
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: So sports needs more of just easy guys to root for.

1617
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Another question, has he earned the starting job? I mean,

1618
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: he's only started two games, so he's awesome. Story, It's

1619
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: been fun, but I would say no on the on

1620
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: the earn the starting job. Fuck Dennis Allen. That was

1621
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: just the DM bow Knicks favored to win the Heisman.

1622
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: If not him, then who I think it's him and Jayden.

1623
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a two horse race. I

1624
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: guess Pennix would still be somewhat alive. They play Oregon

1625
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: State this week at Oregon State. Did Oregon State's like

1626
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: twelve in the country, Then they finished with the Apple

1627
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: Cup against Washington State, and then if they win those

1628
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: two games, they'll be in the conference championship game. I

1629
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: thought the voting happens before the conference championship game, but

1630
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I guess, oh, the voting happens

1631
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: before the bowl games in the playoffs. That's what it is,

1632
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: so the conference championship games count. But I would say

1633
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: that if my bet right now, I would lean bow Knicks.

1634
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: But I think Jayden Daniels is having himself a moment,

1635
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: and to me, the only difference is if they win

1636
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. I think bow Knicks is a guy,

1637
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: and if he goes on to beat Oregon State in

1638
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: two weeks and then beat Washington, Jayden wont that ability

1639
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,759
Speaker 1: because Alabama. The SEC championship games now set Amo Verus Georgia.

1640
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: So pretty crazy. If I would have told you two

1641
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: years ago that Jayden Daniels is gonna win the Heisman Trophy,

1642
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: not a Soul or bow Knicks, Honestly, it would have

1643
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: been crazier to say bow Knicks. Those two guys are

1644
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: going to be at the Heisman ceremony and it's basically

1645
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: they're going to get the majority of the votes. That's

1646
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: wild that that really is shows you the transfer portal

1647
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: has done wonders for quarterbacks. It's done wonders for a

1648
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: lot of players, but it's it's changed the game for

1649
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who have failed in a spot, who need to

1650
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: change of scenery and then go on to just kill

1651
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: it and then make it. The Heisman House appreciate everyone listening.

1652
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:46,879
Speaker 1: Audios the volume