1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is the production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much 3 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's give it up for the Man, 4 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend, our super producer, Max, the candy Man, Williams. 5 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Who and the condom on and where Joey does always with? 6 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Uh? Well, can I say we're joined because I'm I'm 7 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: anyway I've been. We've got the one and only nol 8 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: the bagman Brown here. 9 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh you remember, of course, I just want to be 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: the man. It's I think it's just the most underappreciated 11 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: of the heist crew. Uh. 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, Rolls, we should talk hold the bag we 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: we should. It's a very powerful and crucial role. We 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: should talk about this. We've been into heist for quite 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: some time in our professional careers. 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Together, and we have yet to pull one off. 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: We have yet to uh, we have yet to have 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: been caught in hest That's that's a little bit of 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: pr spin. Yeah, we haven't. We haven't made a heist yet. 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: But we have spent over the years a lot of 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: time discussing our roles in heist, and we've appointed several 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: of our colleagues in heist. I think we made uh. 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: I think we made our pal Jonathan Strickland aka the 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: quist Or, aka Baby j the Patsy. 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: No one tell him because that will mess up his 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: role in the heist. But we're not talking about that today, Noel. 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about something crazy. We're talking about a role 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: that chocolate played in war. 30 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Surprising role. Yeah, you're not really use think about chocolate 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: and war and the same thought. But it turns out 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: that the Hershey's Chocolate Company played a big role in 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: the war effort, specifically in World War two. So let's 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: talk about World War Two. On June sixth, nineteen forty four, 35 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: the Old D Day took place whe one hundred and 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: sixty thousand troops stormed the beaches of Normandy. You know, 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: it was the big turning point in the war. And 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: many of those soldiers, likely on their persons, would have 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: been carrying a somewhat styled on Hershey's chocolate bar. So 40 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: not like the ones that we know and tolerate, because 41 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: let's be honest, the worst chocolate I mean, it's it's chocolate, 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: it's barely chocolate. 43 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: It's like the cult forty five of candy bars, but. 44 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: It is a slice of history and you can't deny that. 45 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: And apparently Hershey Park has some pretty fantastic roller coasters, 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: so not going to throw them under the bustle. Gee, 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: and I don't mind the like cookies and cream Hershey bar. 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Those are from just the standard Hershey bar. It's better 49 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: in Europe. Bro. Yeah, that's probably true on us more. 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: I'll take it sure on its own, No thanks, And 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean yeah. 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: I love the town of Hershey. Back during the days 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: of my very first podcast, you and our pal Casey 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Pegram please give me the sound cue if we got it, Uh, 55 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: you and our palell Casey Pegram and the legendary Scott 56 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Benjamin took a long road trip participating in a road 57 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: rally that found us in Hershey, Pennsylvania, where we saw 58 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: this just absolutely stunning, astonishing car museum. For guy likes cars, 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: that was like poetry and even if you don't like cars, 60 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: it's a fascinating dip into American history. 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hershey the company is as a huge part 62 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: of American history in terms of branding, in terms of 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: their you know, advertising and marketing and all of that stuff, 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: you know, selling chocolate to the masses. Hershey's Chocolate Company 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: also made kind of a deal with Uncle Sam during 66 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: World War Two. You talk about I think you talked 67 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: about it on the show. We have done an episode 68 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: on it, but I think it's time we do have 69 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: one coming up. In stuff they don't want you to 70 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: know about mrs Meals Ready to Eat, maybe not a 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: whole episode. We've talked about go bags in the past, 72 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: things that you need for preparing for a disaster, you know, 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: for preparing to be in a situation where let's just say, 74 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: conditions are not ideal for survival, like war, you know, 75 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: and so you have these MREs, these meals ready to 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: eat that are portable, they don't necessarily have to be 77 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: heated up, and they need to supply you with the 78 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: appropriate amount of calories to keep you going. And there 79 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: were different ones. Ben, I'd love for you to speak 80 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: a little bout it. There's like the K rations, the DC, 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: the C rations, exactly. Once you talk a little bit 82 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: about some MREs that you're aware of that were kind 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: of historical, because that's the whole community of people that 84 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: like collect these and even like still will eat them. 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: I love I saw so YouTube videos of people like 86 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: cracking open these yeah K rations from seventy five years 87 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: ago and they'm like, ah, it's still pretty good. 88 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: It's edible, it's food, I guess, you know, like Checker says, 89 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: you got to eat the most honest tagline ever. 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've got. 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: A bunch of MRIs actually just off screen here too. 92 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, an army needs to feed itself and many, 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: many conflicts throughout human history have been decided based on 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: sustenance more so than whether or not the leaders had 95 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: good military tactics. It's dependent upon whether the army or 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: the military forces has the ability and the infrastructure to eat. 97 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: We're traveling to D Day, the infamous date on June sixth, 98 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: nineteen forty four, when more than one hundred and sixty 99 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: thousand troops stormed the beaches of Normandy. It was a 100 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: successful invasion. It was an absolute bloodbath. One thing that 101 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: you might not know, folks, unless you happen to be 102 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: there and have taken very good care of yourself and 103 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: then listening to a podcast in twenty twenty three, one 104 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: thing you may not know is that Hershey's chocolate bars 105 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: played a role and Noel, you and I have talked 106 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: about this. I can't even remember if it's on air 107 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: at this point. Man, we've talked about amazing inventions along 108 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: with our pal Matt Frederick, who is perhaps most famous 109 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: for the Max with the Fact sound cube, that. 110 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: Seeking in the Fons bags and peace Fall in Love, 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: It's just for you right now here with the. 112 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Bat and many other things. Hershey's also played a role 113 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: in the invention of the microwave, which we might get 114 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: to at the end of this show, but it's a 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: great one. So, like you said, they crack this bargain 116 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: with the US military during World War Two and they 117 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: say we're going to work with the US Army Quartermaster 118 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: Corps to make a survival ration bar. This is called 119 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: the d bar now modern day US MREs. As a 120 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: matter of fact, the vast majority of Western military rations 121 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: tend to contain some sort of treat for anyone who 122 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: wants to go down this rabbit hole with US. I 123 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: will go ahead and tell you that, just my opinion, 124 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the best military rations out right now are the French rcirs. 125 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: They're kind of hard to find in the US. You 126 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: can order them online, you'll pay a premium, but they, 127 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: like the MREs, come with a treat. The last pack 128 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: of MREs I opened had some M and ms, so 129 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: watch hour. 130 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: But the uh but yeah, it's that thin candy shell 131 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: that keeps them, keeps them in such good condition. 132 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's a good call. You're absolutely correct, noal, 133 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: And it's also why you will see a lot of 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: tortillas in MRIs because they keep well and they don't crumble, 135 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: and they're easy to pack. So why chocolate, Okay, why 136 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: would you put chocolate in a wartime situation? It has 137 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: high calories, it's got caffeine, and it gives you that 138 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: energy boost. Plus it's a bar, right, so it's it's handheld. 139 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: You don't have to have any cutlery or any other 140 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: implements to eat it or prepare it. You just peel 141 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: it out of the wrapper, chomp, chomp, chop, and you're off. 142 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think you mentioned it has caffeine. And 143 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: it also has a history in military service. Like George Washington, 144 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: for example, in the Continental Army in the Revolutionary War, 145 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: would have eaten chocolate, probably in beverage form, which is 146 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: still a thing that can be done with these chocolate 147 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: rations because they're all cubed out and there's actually if 148 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: you look at the text on some of these rations, 149 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: these d rations, He'll say, can be crumbled into boiling 150 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: water if wished to be consumed as a beverage. So 151 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: you think about these MRIs, like you said, Ben, and 152 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: you kind of mentioned they were edible at best, you know, 153 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: because again they are going to be packed with certain 154 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: preservatives that are going to be really good for the 155 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: shelf life of them, but not necessarily super good for 156 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: the flavor of them. So the first run of these 157 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: bars from the Hershey's Chocolate Company go over really well. 158 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: They actually received the Army Navy e Production Award in 159 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: a ceremony that was held in nineteen forty two, and 160 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: the Quartermaster General, a fellow by the name of Major 161 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: General Gregory, came to the Hershey Company and presented Milton 162 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Hershey with this award of achievement. And the General had 163 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: this to say of the Hershey Company's assistance in the 164 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: war effort. The men and women of Hershey Chocolate Corporation 165 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: have every reason to be proud of their great work 166 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: in backing up our soldiers on the fighting fronts. Because, Ben, 167 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: to your point, yeah, it's a treat, but it also 168 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: in a pinch, it's got enough calories to keep you going. 169 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: You know, this actually could mean the difference between life 170 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: and death. Here's the thing though, okay, so oh, but 171 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: by the way, of course, the corporation got a flag 172 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: that could fly above their plants there in Hershey and 173 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: lapel pins for every everyone gets a lapel pin, you know. 174 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: And by the end of the war in nineteen forty five, 175 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: they received a total of five of these awards. So 176 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: this is the thing, Ben, and I know that you 177 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: know this more than anybody. They made a ton of these. 178 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: I think the figure that I saw is like half 179 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: a billion of these chocolate bars or in production where 180 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: we're you know, we're rolled out. But the problem at 181 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: first was we need to figure out how to a 182 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: make this this delectable treat not so treatly that a 183 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: serviceman would just gobble it on down, right out the right, 184 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: right out of the box, because then it might not 185 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: come in handy during a time where it was crucial 186 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: to have that caloric intake, you know, when you were 187 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: really suffering from a deficit, if maybe you were holed up, 188 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, or pinned down or whatever in the jungle. 189 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: So that was problem one right, they they had aquate 190 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: make it taste crappier. What was problem too, Ben. 191 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Yes, So there's a there's a series of problems, a 192 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: cavalcade of challenges. If we're being diplomatic. They're not designing 193 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: this to taste delectable. They're designing it to be rugged 194 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: to withstand a lot of things. So they're thinking in 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: terms of caloric intake, and then this problem too, they're 196 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: thinking in terms of temperature. They say, we'll figure out 197 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: to taste stuff. At the end, what we need to 198 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: do is make sure we build a thing that can 199 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: feed people X amount of calories, and we also need 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that it can withstand terrible temperatures forty 201 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: nine degrees celsius Ballpark for US in the US, that's 202 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty degrees fahrenheit. And this is for 203 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the quarter master. The temperature and the caloric value are 204 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: the two big things, because he needs to find an 205 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: emergency ration. So they create this thing that's called the 206 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: d ration. This is what Hershey Corporation initially comes up 207 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: with from this request. If you have three of these 208 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: d ration chocolate bars, then you can ingest one thousand, 209 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: eight hundred calories in an emergency situation again with nothing else. 210 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: You don't have to cook it, you don't have to 211 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: put it in water. You can if you want to 212 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: be kind of gross. But this is an elegant, efficacious 213 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: answer to the problem and the idea. They even had 214 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: instructions on how to eat it right, like you you're 215 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: not supposed to gobble them all down all at once, 216 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Like what's that kid's name in Willy Wonka it gets 217 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: sucking something. 218 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just eats the chocolate river. 219 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: You're right right, you can't eat him the way he does. 220 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: You got it. 221 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: You got a munch on him slowly. And this guy, 222 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: this Quartermaster Paul Logan, who comes up with the idea. 223 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: He's writing to Hershey's and the dude literally says they 224 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: just need to taste quote a little bit better than 225 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: a boiled potato. 226 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently, according to some sources, the boiled potato 227 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: may have been preferable. But it's so funny, though, man, 228 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: because I watched a video YouTube video. I mean, give 229 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: this guy credit or credit? Are you talking about Mr Eats? Yeah? 230 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: It must be. It must be because he actually had 231 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: one of these and he unboxed it like did a 232 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: whole unboxing kind of situation, and he ate it, and 233 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: he was describing he described the flavor as being sort 234 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: of a combination of like hot cocoa mix, sort of 235 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: like a cocoa powder and in a hint, just a 236 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: hint of cardboard. So it certainly doesn't sound like it 237 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: was the most And he was also eating one that 238 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: was seventy five years old, and they're really really dense, apparently, 239 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: you know, when they were in circulation, it would be 240 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: very difficult to bite, so that folks would have to 241 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: actually shave off little pieces of it with like a knife, 242 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, to even get a taste of it. And then, 243 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: like I said in this video, I'll get the get 244 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: the name of it in a second. He actually makes 245 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: hot cocoa out of one, because the text on the 246 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: thing indicate that you can use a square of it 247 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: and crush it up in boiling water, and it makes 248 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: this kind of kind of gross, unadvertising looking chocolate soup. 249 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: Is it the guy Steve nineteen eighty nine, MRI info? 250 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I follow him? 251 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Let's see it is Steve nineteen eighty nine, Mr Info, Yeah, 252 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: he's the guy nineteen forty nine US Army Field ration 253 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: D emergency MRI, and the text indeed reads it actually 254 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: gives you the the ingredients, so it says chocolate, sugar, skim, milk, powder, 255 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: cocoa fat, oat flour, which is actually the added ingredients 256 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: that would not have been in mass produced you know, 257 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: hershey chocolate bars, artificial flavoring. I guess that's their secret. 258 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Sauce zero point four or five milligrams of vitamin B 259 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: thiamine hydrochloride six hundred calories, like you said, says to 260 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: be eaten slowly in about a half hour, can be 261 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: dissolved by crumbling into a couple of boiling water if 262 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: desired as a beverage, which you kind of have to. 263 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: It's almost like Hardtack for sailors, like easily that was 264 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: to dilute it with water, and you nailed it. 265 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: Man. 266 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: The oat flours, why it's so dense. So go back 267 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: going back to this guy Paul Logan again, I think 268 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: he's kind of a pill. He says, you know, we 269 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: want this to not be the kind of bar you 270 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: would buy it a candy store able to be resilient. 271 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: And the problem was Hershey's when they had this recipe, 272 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, the chocolate sugar, the cocoa fat instead of 273 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: cocoa powder, skim milk powder instead of milk fat, that 274 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: oat flour. They couldn't get the gunk of it to 275 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: liquefy enough to get into standard chocolate bar molds, so 276 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: they had to knead it into specially made molds. And 277 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: not only did it not taste good, not only was 278 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: it physically difficult to bite into, which which is nuts 279 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: because your jaw is the strongest muscle in a human body. 280 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: It also was no good no bento for your digestive system. 281 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Over time, soldiers hated this stuff so much they started 282 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: calling the d rats Hitler's secret weapon. 283 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. You must have infiltrated the infiltrated the 284 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: Hershey company. I guess No, No, these things weren't necessary, though. 285 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: It's a good point, ben, because to eat it too 286 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: quickly would be wasteful. It would not spread it out, 287 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: you know, those calories as much as we're talking like, 288 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: you know, really difficult situation. So if you eat it 289 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: all at once, it would not be good for that, 290 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: and it would give you a pretty gnarly stomach ache. 291 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: But you're right. It was not beloved by the servicemen 292 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: of World War Two, and it was often just thrown 293 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: away because, as our YouTube friend Steve nineteen eighty nine 294 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 2: MRI info points out, there could be some surface kind 295 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: of bubbling that actually, you know, he points it out, 296 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: it sort of looks like almost like mold growing on 297 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: the service of it, but it's actually just sort of 298 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: a discoloration that comes from the shrink wrapping process or 299 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: the cellophane process, which was actually I believe what was 300 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: the company that was making the cellophane. It was DuPont 301 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: I think anyway, there was like another giant American corporation 302 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: that was making the cellphane. When you take it out, 303 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: even if it was fresh, it would still sometimes have 304 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: this kind of distort, this discoloration on the top. So 305 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: there is a massive surplus of these because they were 306 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: often either discarded or they just you know, were returned, 307 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: you know. And so you're gonna see some of these 308 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: floating around out there in MRI land if you're like 309 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: in those circles. 310 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hershey is hearing the people they're trying to 311 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: respond to this. By the end of World War two, 312 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: they had made more than three billion ration bars overall, 313 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: but they weren't all the same version. Later in the war, 314 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: they introduced something called the tropical bar, which was specifically 315 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: designed to be used in the Pacific, but it became 316 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: a thing that everybody in the arm services. Heck, probably 317 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: everybody in the US knew these bars taste terrible. On purpose. 318 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Probably the army goes back to Hershey and they say, 319 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: all right, we've had enough. It's nineteen forty three at 320 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: this point, and the company says, all right, we're going 321 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to try to make something that tastes better. This is 322 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: where they make the tropical bar. It still didn't taste 323 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: that great, and a lot of soldiers said, you know what, 324 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: I get it. 325 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: You tried. 326 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: It was a big swing, but this chocolate is so 327 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: bad that it's not worth the calories. They were throwing 328 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of this stuff away, and then they took 329 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: up a new practice. They would trade it to people. 330 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: And you know, they would say, okay, we will trade 331 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: this chocolate over to other folks, because it's a ration 332 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: that you can tolerate if you're already sick with dysentery. 333 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Right. Not only that, though, the rapper was different and 334 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: it looked a little more commercial, right, so they could 335 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: trick people sometimes into like giving them a trade if 336 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: they didn't know, you know. 337 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Right, they thought it was a civilian one, right, tropical. Okay, 338 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: So this chocolate bar thing, it continues to be a 339 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: part of the standard military rations through the wars in 340 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: Korea and the fifties, through the Vietnam War. It doesn't 341 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: get discontinued until after Vietnam. And we got to talk 342 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: about this idea. So these guys are trying to for 343 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: a long time, they're trying to make sure this chocolate 344 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: doesn't melt, right, That's why they got the weird oat 345 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: flour in it. 346 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: Never everything. 347 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: They want it to be in a solid, a solid, 348 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: easily consumable form. But if you're a fan of chocolate, 349 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: let's be honest, you like it when it's melty. It's 350 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of like the rule with cheese. Melted cheese is 351 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: pretty great. 352 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean, it has its place. You surely 353 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: don't want it melting in your pocket, you know, which 354 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: is why they made such efforts to make sure that 355 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: the melting point was higher for these rations. But melted 356 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: chocolate and is a great part of a recipe used 357 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: as a topping, you know, great for baking obviously, and 358 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: an important use of the chocolate. If you watch any 359 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: kind of great British baking show you know about like 360 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: tempering chocolate and all that stuff, it's a whole other 361 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: use for the stuff. And the question then becomes what 362 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: is the best, most effective, quickest way to do that thing. 363 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when we get to the idea of melting chocolate, 364 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: we find there's another invention that was accidentally created due 365 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: to melting chocol We want to give a big, big 366 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: thanks to Percy Spencer explored this in a previous previous 367 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: show He's to do back in the day called Stuff 368 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: of Genius with Matt Frederick with our pal Paul Deckett 369 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: and several other folks including Christian Steinman's formerly of stuff 370 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: that they're blew your mind. Percy Spencer is the reason 371 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: we have the microwave of it, and chocolate is the 372 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: reason Percy came up with the microwave of it. 373 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a junior engineer. He only had They 374 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: make it real clear on this article in New England 375 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Historicalsociety dot com that he only had a fifth grade education, 376 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: but he actually he was no slouch. He earned patents 377 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: that were really important towards the war effort, you know, 378 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: and also to you know, zapping yourself a nice stofer's 379 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: you know, in a pinch. So he was actually the 380 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: fourth person hired by a little company out of Cambridge, 381 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: Massachusetts called Wraith. You may have heard of it now 382 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: much more known as a defense contractor, right Ben. 383 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Raytheon and get their tentacles and a lot of pies. 384 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: I would say, if you want to learn more about that, 385 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: check out stuff. They don't want you to know. Raytheon 386 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: plays no okay role here. They're relatively innocuous. 387 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I say, what's most important is that this fellow 388 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: has a chocolate bar in his pocket, a Hershey's chocolate 389 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: bar in his pocket, and he's hanging out in the 390 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: lab like you do, and testing these things called magnetrons 391 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen forty five at Raytheon and he walks by. 392 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: It's a type of vacuum tube that creates and emits 393 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: microwaves that are used in radar systems. But he noticed 394 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: it's like so many of the stories of like incredible 395 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: inventions and Eureka moments are all about kind of happenstance. 396 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: He walks by one of these tubes and he notices 397 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: that the candy bar in his pocket is getting a 398 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: little warm, he's trying to melt. So he's like, hmm, 399 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: let's explore this. So he goes to the lab in 400 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: the city of Waltham the next day and he takes 401 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: some popcorn and he notices a similar but much more 402 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: noisy effect. The colonels start to pop. So he houses 403 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: one of these magnatrons inside a metal box, just like 404 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: for his own purposes at this point, right then. 405 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're getting situations. I mean, he's he's unfailingly curious. 406 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: We should also say he has a he has a 407 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: lot of patents that he is accruing here. He's a 408 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: very very curious guy. But yeah, just for his own 409 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: what if giggles, he does a choose your own adventure move. 410 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: He makes Maguyver level microwave we could call it. And 411 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: at first, you guys, he entirely uses this to reheat 412 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: his lunch at work. 413 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Yeah, it's kind of like as 414 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: a lark, you know, so I made this thing. Yeah no, 415 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: I mean, you know again, it's not oftentimes the job 416 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: of the inventor to see the big picture of the thing. 417 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: It's more just someone who's curious about how science interacts 418 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: with stuff. And then it's the job of like marketers 419 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: and the whole nother department to figure out how to 420 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: put to slap a label on it and ship it 421 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: and you know, make gazillions of dollars, which did, of course, 422 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: inevitably happen with the old microwave oven. Here's my question 423 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: about it. Did he know if this was safe? Because 424 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: he's just like, takes this stuff, and it's ever know 425 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: if it's there. 426 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: There is if you just very slightly tilt this axis 427 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: of this story, there is this guy in my co 428 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: words of stuff. He died three weeks later for a radiation. 429 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe I'm playing too much fall out right now, 430 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: but I'm like reading this no, man. 431 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, she paid him, she paid 432 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: him blood for her tremendous breakthroughs. Yeah, you don't. You 433 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: can't know what you don't know. To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, 434 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: whom I do not respect. 435 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: No, yeah, that guy's a real dick. But no, it's true. 436 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean an oftentimes adventures are using themselves as guinea 437 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: pigs in their own experiments, you know, And I think 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: that's it can be noble, you know what I mean. 439 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: It's certainly better than you know, human experimentation without people's consent, 440 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: that's for sure. 441 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be first, right, somebody's got to be first. 442 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: And Raytheon sees the advantage here, They see the potential, 443 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: I should say, they patent the technology. They're sampling microwave 444 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: meals in the C suite, in the executive dining room, 445 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: and soon they're selling something called the radar range, which 446 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: is fun to say. It's very expensive at the time. 447 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: It's primarily used for commercial cookers. And we can go 448 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: on and on about the history of the microwave, but 449 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: that may be a story for another day. What you 450 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: need to know is that if that guy had not 451 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: liked chocolate, we might not have microwaves today. Chocolate has 452 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: many many other stories to tell. As Noel said, you 453 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: can tune into an upcoming conversation we're gonna have on 454 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, to learn more 455 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: about it. But in the meantime, thank you chocolate for 456 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: helping the Allies win World War Two. 457 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and hershey chocolate remains he even at its best, 458 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: not tasting super great again, I do stand by the 459 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: white chocolate took cookies and cream variety. But you know, 460 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: big ups to the company, you know, for for for 461 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: taking one from the tea. By the way, during this time, 462 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: we didn't mention this, but maybe it goes without saying. 463 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: Chocolate was much less available back home to regular folks. Yeah, 464 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: they were rational and then they were They made, like 465 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: we said, I think we said that at some point 466 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: half a billion of these things. And if you if 467 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: you're looking around, and if you maybe go to military 468 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: surplus stores, uh, you may run into some of these. 469 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: And like I said, the Mr Guy he ate it, 470 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: and he certainly didn't lose his lunch on camera, and 471 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, he said it was actually not that bad. 472 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: He even shows the inside of it. You can see 473 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: how dense it is, but it also is a little 474 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: bit porous, yea, which maybe is a product of the age. 475 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: But it almost looks like a little bit airy. You know, 476 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of intrigued. I don't know, Ben, have you 477 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: ever eaten an ancient ration? 478 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Yes, not really recommended unless you specifically want that experience, 479 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: But having hung with people who have tried those chocolate 480 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: bars too, I think for us in the modern day, 481 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: it will taste less bad because we all know it's 482 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: supposed to taste horrific. But if you know, imagine your 483 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: young kid is World War two and you say, oh wow, 484 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: a chocolate bar and you try to bite into it. 485 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: So it's all about expectation, right, that's so much of 486 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: a fine dining in the first place. But you guys, 487 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: of course, Noel Max, of course you are cordially invited 488 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: to come over to my place or hang out. Then 489 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: try MRIs whenever you would like. Because I got a 490 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: deal on some I basically got a pal I got 491 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: a palette of them. 492 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, I'm making these go bags and stuff. 493 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: So thanks to thanks to that hookup who will probably 494 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: for legal purposes stay anonymous, and uh thank you again 495 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: thanks to thanks to chocolate. 496 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: You know, I wonder how many people how to get 497 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 3: serious medical attention from eating these things. 498 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean MRIs too. 499 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: They already have. 500 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: They still have the reputation of the modern day, you know, 501 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the it's got a bunch of street acronym meanings. 502 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: Right. 503 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: One of my favorites is meal refusing to exit. Yes, 504 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: oh boy, I get an exit like the boy. It's 505 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: a poop joke. We're doing poop jokes. 506 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: We can vote, isn't that crazy? We can? We can 507 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 2: and we do this for a living. So how far 508 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: we have fallen? But huge thanks to the Hershey Corporation. 509 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: Uh to Max Williams, super producer extraordinaire, to Alex Williams 510 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: compose this theme. 511 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Big big thanks to Jonathan Strickland aka the Quister, Big 512 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: big thanks to Ease, Jeffcoat, to our pals and research associates, 513 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: doctor Z and Jeff B. Big thanks of course, do 514 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you know into you once again? 515 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: Next We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts 516 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 517 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows.