WEBVTT - A HMT Special Report: Coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>This is how men think with growths like and Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>to grop and I heard radio podcast. Hello everybody, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. My name is Brooks, like and that

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<v Speaker 1>is Gavin to Cross. I never know how you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>jump in. I just never know how you're gonna jump

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just don't even know if you're gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm not sure I'm gonna be here. That's true. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you always show up, buddy, and I'm always happy to

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<v Speaker 1>see your face. And I feel like we should intro

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<v Speaker 1>today's show. Like as a news anchor, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. We have a breaking report. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this angle. Yeah, sounds serious. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Not particularly because it's serious. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>too serious for me. This is a really serious one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was actually, you know, it's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to uh. I think it's gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to get funny because this topic is so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>This topic is very serious, super super serious, something that's

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<v Speaker 1>been I think on a lot of people's minds, most

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's minds. We're doing something extremely current today. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the coronavirus, which the media has started to

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<v Speaker 1>blow upward. We're hearing about this every single day. We're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing new cases every day, We're seeing deaths, uh from

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus, and I think they're making a bigger deal

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<v Speaker 1>out of it than it is. Possibly we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>dig into that today. We have a gentleman who currently

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<v Speaker 1>has coronavirus coming on the phone with us today, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna hear from Carl. We also have Dr Todd

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to weigh in with us later to give

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<v Speaker 1>his take from a medical standpoint on what he believes

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<v Speaker 1>about the coronavirus. But it's something that's honestly, Gavitt's got me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know if it's got me scared. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got my attention, and it's got me alert. Yourself, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't look that scared now. I believe you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>look too too. I mean, you always look alert, but

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't seem like it's made you any more alert

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<v Speaker 1>than you usually are, because you're just an alert guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're an aware guy. You always are aware, You're always present.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like guys like you, you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>what you think? Are you know, at least the pragmatic

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<v Speaker 1>things that need to be done, the handwashing, the whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not freaking out. I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do any of that. I probably do less of

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<v Speaker 1>that than anybody. I believe my immune So let you

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<v Speaker 1>share a sandwich of it at any point. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>share a bite anyway. I believe my immune system is

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<v Speaker 1>a beast, and I just trust in my immune system.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, a good thing. I'm not that

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant or arrogant to think that I'm immune to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think that, I couldn't possibly get this. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I am watching closely. I'm reading on it, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>TV on it. Um, I'm trying to find out. Unless

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<v Speaker 1>I follow Twitter. Twitter is a great resource for what's breaking, um,

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<v Speaker 1>new cases in New York, some new deaths. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am very much up to date on it. See

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<v Speaker 1>I fear. I fear the magnification of something through the

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<v Speaker 1>many different opinions of what the news is, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So I just I worry about the

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<v Speaker 1>social media element of just about just about everything sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know. It's uh the yeah, and I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, I'd rather dedicate some time to

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<v Speaker 1>try and UM, and you can filter some of that out,

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<v Speaker 1>like there there are reputable places. There's some people I

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<v Speaker 1>found that are reputable that just distribute facts. Because distributing

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<v Speaker 1>your your opinion, unless in your work, unless you're working

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<v Speaker 1>for the Center for Disease Control the CDC or something.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're like throwing your opinion out there, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's much validation. I mean, you're probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best doctor in the world, so i'd probably trust your

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<v Speaker 1>great doctor. I'm one of the best. I'm one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest doctors I know, so I mean the most

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<v Speaker 1>humble too, but the most humble doctor that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like paying attention to facts though. I do

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<v Speaker 1>like when there are verified facts about where cases of broke,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people UM currently are on record having it,

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<v Speaker 1>Where there's been the latest deaths UM, where the new

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<v Speaker 1>cases are popping up, what's the what's the demo graphic.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be older people UM that are passing

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<v Speaker 1>away from the disease. Kids seem to be surprisingly immune

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<v Speaker 1>to it. So just this kind of stuff I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I like paying attention to patterns is what I would say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's smart. So UM, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into this and I can't wait to talk to Carl.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine finding out that I had coronavirus and

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<v Speaker 1>what that would do to me, And like what he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to when when particularly early early on, Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>when we don't have a real understanding of what this is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>without without the information to begin with. Oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a heavy show. Um So Eastern are exceptional,

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional engineer. Here Eastern with a beautiful beige colored sweater

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<v Speaker 1>today he's layered up. It's fantastic, but it's very Irish.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's going to like a fisherman kind of vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like it. Do you own a pipe?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a pipe man? Well, when I'm off the clock, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I like if you enjoy now? And again said work.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have an Irish setter? Are you a dog man?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't have a setter, but but I

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<v Speaker 1>can dance a good jig, can you? Yeah? Fancy Michael

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<v Speaker 1>flet dancer exactly. How beautiful some of my faves. It's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible how this podcast went from a news report to

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin talking about um SO. Also, I want to commend

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<v Speaker 1>producer Amy and producersolutely, Um, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first times we've done like a super current episode of

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<v Speaker 1>How Men Think, So I'm really looking forward to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to check in with two of our

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<v Speaker 1>other How Men Think, Um, well, Brick, one of our

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<v Speaker 1>co hosts, and then Hannah who used to be our intern.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rick is in Dubai right now, and then Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>is in Spain. She's studying abroad and she might have

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<v Speaker 1>to come back home. Yeah. Also, is she coming home

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<v Speaker 1>because of the virus. Yeah, so apparently all of her

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<v Speaker 1>um what is it called, like other friends at school

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<v Speaker 1>that are studying about in Italy right now all got

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<v Speaker 1>sent back home. There was a no kidding, Like about

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago, there was a town of fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people in Italy that was like quarantined like they were, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically shut down Italy is Italy is Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. It spot here right now. So we'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>from her just from like a student perspective, because she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of freaking out right now too, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>so young and being in Europe and having to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with us is kind of crazy. Preve bracking. They also

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<v Speaker 1>they also two days ago they just announced the cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>of six International Ice Hockey Federation World Championship tournaments. You're kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not six Internet i h F World Hockey Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>I played in this tournament back in two thousand twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or thirteen, um, competing for a World champion for for

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<v Speaker 1>World championship, for gold medal. And they've canceled six of

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<v Speaker 1>those tournaments. Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, it's heavy news. So UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see what goes on with the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming Olympic with this. I mean, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>before Brazil there was a Zeker virus. Zeker virus, correct, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some scare there. So I just there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much uncertainty with the coronavirus. What are the possibilities And

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<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to scare people. Um. Carl is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come on and share his story about being quarantined

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<v Speaker 1>and what he's going through, how he experienced the virus,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Dr Todd later is going to give us

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<v Speaker 1>a medical perspective on the virus. So Eastern queue up

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<v Speaker 1>our our first guest, Mr Carl Um. Mr Carl Goldman,

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<v Speaker 1>who currently has coronavirus. So, Gav, we have an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>guest on today. Our producers Amy and Danielle have done

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<v Speaker 1>an exceptional job, a very current job, and they've got

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<v Speaker 1>us a gentleman who currently has coronavirus, and he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line with us. Carl Goldman, are you on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone with us? I am. I wish I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the do you here with you? But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have a less chance of infecting you if I talk

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<v Speaker 1>on the cell phone. Hi, Carl, I appreciate you coming on,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I would love if you were

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio with us as well, just not today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'd love to. We would love to. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to speak with people and converse with people face

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<v Speaker 1>to face, so know that, but also know that. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have an immense amount going on in

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<v Speaker 1>your life and I super appreciate you. Gavin and I

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<v Speaker 1>both incredibly appreciate you for taking the time to jump

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<v Speaker 1>on with us today to share your experience with coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you first tell us where you're currently at

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I am quarantined in Omaha. I came here

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen days ago, actually fifteen days ago. Now it all

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a blur. And I was first put into the

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<v Speaker 1>bio Containment Center in Omaha. It's one of three centers

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<v Speaker 1>in the country that was set up during the anthrax

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<v Speaker 1>scare never used for anthrax, and then they used it

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ebola crisis when the virus hit. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>patient number two in that bio containment center since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Last since I was there twelve days Wednesday, I got

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<v Speaker 1>moved over to where I am now, which is more

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<v Speaker 1>like a single room dormitory in a building about three

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<v Speaker 1>blocks away. This is a huge campus here, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were fifteen patients that came from the Diamond Princess. We

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<v Speaker 1>were all part of that cruise in Japan. Fifteen of

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<v Speaker 1>us arrived here and the good news is there's only

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<v Speaker 1>twelve of us left. The other three have gone home.

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<v Speaker 1>They have not become a statistic fantastic um. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into how about the cruise. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you some questions about that. But first off, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling personally? How are you feeling right now? Today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling okay. I have a cost still, But if

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<v Speaker 1>this were you know, if I wasn't contagious, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been back and work at work forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 1>after I hit the high fever and everything. So so

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<v Speaker 1>this I'm one of the lucky ones that ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting a mild case of it. And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>about of the people who do get this have a

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<v Speaker 1>mild case. So you would have you think you would

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<v Speaker 1>have in the first forty eight hours, you probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have missed two days of work just based on how

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<v Speaker 1>you were feeling there, and then you would have gone

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<v Speaker 1>back to work. Yep. Absolutely, Wow, okay, Um, And yet

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<v Speaker 1>yet it's humbling because you know, we just learned there

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<v Speaker 1>are six deaths now in the United States. We had

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<v Speaker 1>six deaths on that from the Diamond Princess. We have

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<v Speaker 1>over seven hundred of us are now positive with the virus.

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<v Speaker 1>So we left a floating Petrie dish there. Wow, Carl,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for sharing your story. Um. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you take us back to the cruise? Can you take

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<v Speaker 1>us um back on board the cruise? Is a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago you were in China, I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you said? Yeah, we actually never went

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<v Speaker 1>to China. I had bought a cruise on Princess, the

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond Princess from my wife for her birthday and Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>We flew to Tokyo, Japan. The cruise was through Southeast Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>not going through China. We did stops in Hong Kong, Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 1>and Vietnam along with stops in Japan, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fifth wonderful fifteen days. On the sixteenth day,

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<v Speaker 1>the last day of the cruise, we learned a passenger

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten off. He was a Chinese passenger, had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>off in Hong Kong and had tested positive four days

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<v Speaker 1>later with the coronavirus. The captain doubled his speed back

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<v Speaker 1>to our final destination of Yokohama. We anchored in the harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese health officials came on and announced that we would

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<v Speaker 1>be stuck there for twenty four hours, passed our scheduled departure.

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<v Speaker 1>So we scrambled and they change arrangements. Everything had full

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<v Speaker 1>use of the ship for those twenty four hours as

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<v Speaker 1>they went through testing everybody day. Then the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>we woke up and we're told over the loudspeaker that

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<v Speaker 1>we were now quarantine for fourteen days on the Diamond

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<v Speaker 1>Princess and could not leave our cabins. WHOA, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>leave the cabins. No, we were stuck in the cabins

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen days. We ended up being there in their

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or fourteen before the US government flew us back

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<v Speaker 1>to the States. How big is your cabin? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>No complaints. We we've got a mini suite, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>traveled with two of our very close friends who had

0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a mini suite next to us, so they ended up

0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.120
<v Speaker 1>we had our balcony door unlocked between us, so we

0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.960
<v Speaker 1>were able to go back and forth. I met a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>I met a couple from Atlanta. They were in their eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>On one of our stops. Their grandson had given them

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<v Speaker 1>a gift of the cruise. The grandson, along with the

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<v Speaker 1>two the elderly couple and a friend of the grandsons,

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<v Speaker 1>was inside an inside cabin, probably about half the sides

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<v Speaker 1>of hours, no windows, no balcony. I talked to someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>They were there with two kids in an inside and

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<v Speaker 1>they imagine that. So anytime we started feeling even a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit sorry for ourselves, we just thought of their

0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:36.040
<v Speaker 1>plight and shut ourselves up. Well. Um, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>original person that had coronavirus, do they have any insight

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<v Speaker 1>as to where they would have got it or how

0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that person would have got it, and then they obviously

0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.000
<v Speaker 1>brought it on board. It might have been from one

0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of the stops you guys had. But have they clarified

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<v Speaker 1>any of that information, No, except they was Chinese so

0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and and of course back you've got to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to rewin the tape to January seventeen. When we first traveled,

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus was non news in the States. It was

0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the Chinese have been suppressing information. And when we got

0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.720
<v Speaker 1>to Tokyo they were about the people on the streets

0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.800
<v Speaker 1>were wearing masks. So I that was a little clue

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go on Google and see what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. It wasn't until then that that the media

0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.200
<v Speaker 1>started to begin picking up information the Chinese. I had

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<v Speaker 1>had the Chinese been forthright with stuff early on, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this could have been contained a lot, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better than it has been. Um, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's retrospective. But do you believe if you would

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<v Speaker 1>have been aware of it, if that information would have

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<v Speaker 1>been out and present in the media in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>that you and your wife would have canceled your CRUs No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we would still would have taken the cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of us would have been a little

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<v Speaker 1>more cautious. And I know it's particularly with the Japanese

0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.400
<v Speaker 1>health officials who were amazing. They would have Nitor and

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who was going on the cruise who had been

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<v Speaker 1>to China, so that that's how it could have been

0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sealed off. Um So as I understand that Carl, you

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<v Speaker 1>you have tested positive for coronavirus, but your wife Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>has not. Am I correct there? Yes, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>so boys are so out of the four of us

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<v Speaker 1>now three of the four. Three of the four of

0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>us have the coronavirus, my wife does not. The one

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<v Speaker 1>who first contacted the coronavirus was our friend who was

0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.360
<v Speaker 1>also named Jerry, Jerry Jorgensen. She was taken off the

0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.080
<v Speaker 1>ship two days before we left and was convalescing in

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital about four hours outside of Tokyo. She has

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<v Speaker 1>just been released from that hospital and is waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>a flight back to the States, which I believe will

0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.120
<v Speaker 1>be a couple of days away. It's so interesting, so

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<v Speaker 1>of the four of you, three tested positive and your

0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.960
<v Speaker 1>wife who was with you, all did not. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's really just totally baffling. Also the big healthiest of

0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.280
<v Speaker 1>all of us was Jerry Jorgensen. She's the first to

0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.360
<v Speaker 1>have gotten it. Her husband Mark was the reason they

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.560
<v Speaker 1>did the swap test to begin with, because he's a

0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:18.320
<v Speaker 1>double kidney transplant. He didn't he didn't get the virus

0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>until after we landed at Travis Air Force Space. He

0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.920
<v Speaker 1>did that twelve days of his quarantine and they tested

0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.640
<v Speaker 1>him to release him and he came out positive. Had

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<v Speaker 1>no signs of the virus. Yeah, no signs of the violence,

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<v Speaker 1>no fever, no cough, nothing. And has their experience been

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<v Speaker 1>like yours with the illness or were you the most

0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:44.000
<v Speaker 1>quote ill from it? No, the majority of people were

0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like me, including Jerry Jorgensen. And do you

0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>feel great and then all of a sudden you're hit

0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 1>with a high fever In my case, we left the

0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.280
<v Speaker 1>ship we were on board. It was an experience to

0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.240
<v Speaker 1>get onto these two cargo seven forty seven's that the

0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.640
<v Speaker 1>military and State Department had set up in Tokyo. We're

0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.080
<v Speaker 1>an isolated, isolated part of the airport. We set on

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.480
<v Speaker 1>buses without bathrooms for six hours. That was probably the

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.159
<v Speaker 1>worst experience of this entire journey. And got on the

0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.440
<v Speaker 1>plane I went to sleep because we had been pulling

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>an all night or woke up two hours later and

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 1>realized I had a high fever. I went and checked it.

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.560
<v Speaker 1>My wife looked at me and said, you're very flush,

0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and and I had known from Jerry Jordan's and that's

0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>what chead experienced. The high fever for about eight hours

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and then it disappeared. I went up to we We

0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any stewardesses on the plane. There were only

0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.959
<v Speaker 1>three Air Force personnel, all in hazmat suits. One was

0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.720
<v Speaker 1>a doctor, the other two medical personnel. They took my

0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.720
<v Speaker 1>temperature and confirmed that it was above a hundred and three,

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and they put me in a quarantine area on the plane.

0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>There were nine of us already in that eight others

0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.639
<v Speaker 1>in the quarantine are on the plane and we flew

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<v Speaker 1>then the rest of the way to Travis Air Force Space.

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I buckled my seatbelt, fell asleep and slept for eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>What's weird about the virus is unlike a cold, I

0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:20.359
<v Speaker 1>had no chills, no sweats with that higher fever. I

0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any sneezing, no sniffles. The only thing that

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I have had then that started and has now stayed

0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>with me as the dry cough. So you went from

0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.959
<v Speaker 1>the cruise to California to Travis air Force Space and

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>then they took you to Nebraska. Yeah, that was a

0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>weird experience. So we landed at Travis. They were about

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty of us on the plane and

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, there are about three hundred and sixty

0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Americans on the ship. Four it by the time we left,

0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.919
<v Speaker 1>forty had already contact at the virus and we're in hospitals.

0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Like our friend Jerry Jorgensen twenty stupidly decided to stay

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.880
<v Speaker 1>on the ship and we can talk about that later.

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And then three hundred of us went on buses to

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the Tokyo Airport and to transport cargo. Planes were there

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.040
<v Speaker 1>for us. One went to Blackland, Texas outside of San Antonio,

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 1>and the one we were on ended up at Travis.

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<v Speaker 1>Who stay on the ship, Well, you want that, you're

0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to interview them. I call them, you know,

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.520
<v Speaker 1>part of the stupid ones, because they there was no

0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 1>reason for them to stay in the ship. Perhaps they

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.160
<v Speaker 1>had a spouse in a Japanese hospital already and they

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to leave. But but I know one couple

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that just decided to stay on because we were talking

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 1>to them from balconies, and we said that was stupid

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.920
<v Speaker 1>because the State Department in the U. S. Embassy had

0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sent us UH emails that said, hey, if you don't

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>get on board, if you don't get on the plane,

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>your quote on your own. There's no Yeah, so so

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you that was just a stupid decision. What I understand

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 1>now is I believe Princess has chartered a plane that

0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>will leave on March fourth, and so that's in two days.

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 1>But then there's no guarantee when they get back. What

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the State Department cit C officials are going to do.

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 1>They may keep them quarantined in additional fourteen days when

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>they get back, even if they get on that plane. Um. Yeah,

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 1>our situation was, once we landed at Travis, we sat

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>there for about two hours. Some other people and has

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>met outfits got on, they checked everybody, decided that the

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 1>majority of people could get off the plane. So just

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody except three of us who were in quarantine, got

0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 1>off the plane. So you were in California, almost home, know,

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>just an hour flight from home, But then you had

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to go to Nebraska to be quarantined. Correct, And where

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>is your wife. So that's a good question. My wife

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.680
<v Speaker 1>is actually en route right now back to California. They

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>released her today and she'll land this evening and uh

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>get to be home. She's she's been negative this whole time. Yea,

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody needs to be don't you guys have a puppy

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>or a dog at home? Yeah, we've got two dogs.

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And more importantly, we owned the local radio station in

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Santa Greena so and we're hands on owners. So being

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 1>away now since January seventeen has been a real challenge.

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 1>But our staff has pulled up their sleeves. They've been unbelievable.

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I started writing a blog about my third day into

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.880
<v Speaker 1>quarantine and posting it. Well, that's how I found you

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>was through the article I think you did for the

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post, and it was it was very well written

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and it was a great article. That's how I tracked

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.439
<v Speaker 1>you down because you were so transparent and about your

0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>experience with the virus. Right and they they you have

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post article. We've been been with our blogs

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on KHTS on hometown station dot com. I've been a

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 1>little lighter with it during the humorous side to all this,

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.919
<v Speaker 1>trying to make lemonade of lemons. This is you know,

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>this is experience that's out of our control. You can

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 1>only live for the day to day and and take

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>what we have on a daily basis. And I think

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the way I've tooked with it. Can I

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>ask you in your opinion, what's the worst part about this,

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the actual illness or the quarantine. I think the quarantine

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>for me being away from home and not now not

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>even look out my window, and I guess it's snowed

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>a little here in Omaha, but night I missed that,

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't been able to step outside, and so

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that that's part of it. I'm hooked up to the

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>internet obviously, my I'm talking to you on my iPhone,

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.719
<v Speaker 1>so I'm still plugged into the rest of the world.

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>It's and I have a television set in years you

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>can watch the newsn Who is who is a better

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 1>speaking voice? Me or Brooks? Do you know what you

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna have to wait. You're gonna have to

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>wait for me to get back to your studio. I'll

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>give you a full analysis questions. Will Gavin and Brooks

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>hug you? Yes, yeah, we'll do the Japanese bowing for

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>quite a while. Okay, Yeah, Also, uh, Carl, we'd love

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to have you come into the studio when you're back

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in California to your health. That would be a fingerfoods only,

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>no sinks, no pull I will wear my hts have

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>matt suit. Gavin is very brave. I feel like he

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>might share a straw with you. Carl, would you sure

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a shake? Yeah? I'm not worried about this at all. Exactly.

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Gavin's not worried about this at all. I think it's

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been following it from the first time the media

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it. I'd fascinated, super calm about it. I was

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>like Gavin a week ago, and last night I ordered

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a ten pound bag of rice I don't know why,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a hundred gloves, and I'm trying to get pure l

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>but it's so it's literally sold out everything. I have

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the house amylium scouching. You can't do that, Carl. Yeah, Carl,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do when you get back to

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>what do you think we need to do? Yeah? In

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>all seriousness, I've been recommending a few things. Number One,

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>purchase a good digital thermometer, because that's going to be

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the best comfort tool you could possibly have. The people

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 1>who I've been exposed to hear and from other stories

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>have the similar thing of that high fever jump up

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>from nowhere, and and so if you have the sniff

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>almos or sneeze, you don't want to freak out over that,

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and the thermometer is going to be the best tool.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I've learned through this and reading and

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>talking to C d C folks is this virus, like

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>other viruses, doesn't do well in the heat, which is

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>a good thing in southern California because it's going to

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>get warm soon. But so what I've been doing is

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>drinking warm water all the time. The other thing I

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>know from the homeopathic side is ginger pushes the body

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>temperature up. So I'm doing tea with ginger in it

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and then walking around exercising to keep my body temperature.

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Gonna have to go to Mexico to hear to the coronavirus. Yeah, yeah, Um, Carl,

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. Can I take you

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>back to when you first found out that you had

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tested positive for coronavirus? What was your what was your

0:25:55.880 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>initial reaction, what was your like anxiety with like, oh

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, I have tested positive for coronavirus. What was

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that initial reaction? Like A great question? Sure, Well, when

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jorgensen tested positive for it and they removed her

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to Fukushima, we my wife and I. My wife, Jerry

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and I decided to take the swab test there on

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the spot. They came up and gave us swap tests,

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>so that was two days before we left. We never

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>got the results of those swab tests. In fact, I

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't get those those and catch up to me to

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 1>about four or five days ago. Turns out that was positive,

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know about it until I came to Omaha.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>They gave me a test. They have a lab here

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in Omaha, so we got the results four or five

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>hours later and they told me I was positive. By

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the time I had the fever on the plane, I

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>knew psychologically I had the virus, so that would be

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the first time and I needed For Jerry Jorgensen, it

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was an easy situation for her, so I kind of

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>felt the same way. I was exhausted and with the

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>high fever, I fell asleep, so I I it didn't

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>impact me psychologically. When I got to Omah, they gave

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>me the test when they came back four or five

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>hours later and said, you're positive. I would have actually

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>been surprised if I was negative. So I think I

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>had psyched myself out the other way. So it wasn't

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that bad and experience. By then, three passengers had already

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>been tested positive on the Diamond Princess, so more than

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>almost half. So at least a third of the passengers

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>tested positive. And when the question when you were by

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the time you were uh, kind of going through your

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>your fever and realizing that you had this virus, did

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>you already sort of know the statistics as far as

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>what the mortality rate was and that type of inst survival, right, yes,

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And and all the macities at that time were elderly

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>people with pre existing conditions, so I didn't feel that

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that threatened even the ones in the United States right now,

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the six who have died are all coming from that

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that one senior home. So so again, the other interesting

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is today the CDC said, with all the cases

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>out there, there's no documentation of young kids having Yeah,

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they say that, you know, kids are a walking cesspool

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of germs and re spewing the cells all the time,

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and they must have some kind of resistance to this

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that adults do not have. There's also they aren't sure

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>if you can get a second time. Correct, they're looking

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>into that, right, if you've had it once and then

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>if you've if you've survived that. I don't believe they're

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>sure yet whether or not you can acquire the virus again.

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>They're assuring us that we can go many months without

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>getting it, will be immune for for many months, but

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is no guarantee, just like the yeah, the reality is, yeah,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the reality is they don't know that much about the virus.

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I landed and was put in this bio containment area

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that was like a scene out of out of a movie.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And and uh I they couldn't give me an even

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>an antibiotic. They gave me one day of ib profin

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of Gate and a lot of gatorade.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Gatorade And wait, are they letting you take pictures of

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>where your blog and we will follow at home? Is

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a hometown station dot com? Yes it is, and yes

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been taking pictures. I got busted one day and

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I understand that I took a picture of a nurse

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in the in their hasma. The nurses and doctors here

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>by the way I've been unbelievable, But being the media

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>guy I am, I made sure she was turned around

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>so she couldn't be identified. And then and I posted

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that on our blog about the second day, I was

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in the biop entertainment area and and uh, yeah, they

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>busted me and said, up, that's a no now. So

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I promised not to do that anymore. In fact, I

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was doing you know. That's so I purposely not doing

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that and honoring their request because they've been they've just

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>been stellar. Here did you tell her? I? Did you

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>tell her that if she didn't want pictures taken, she

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have warned. Such a hot has met suits around you?

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly. Gavin can find the humor in literally anything, Carl,

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>literally anything. Gavin, You're such a talented person. I in

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>my blog the other day, thank you an original. I

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>thought this was an original thing, but I guess it's

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>already been done. But but the song my Sharona, so yeah,

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>weird ol should be doing my corona. That's perfect. Can

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you maybe before we hang up, you good saying a

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>line or tune for me that would make my day?

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>How can you tell Carl? No? Is that? How the

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Beatlet me let me ask you a question, a serious

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>question that sounds like a joke, but it's a real question.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Go for it. Will you ever eat from a salad

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>bar again? This is a real question. You know. People

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>are asking either emailing me and saying, we'll have a

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>cruise again, And absolutely I would cruise. Yes, I would

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>do a salad bar when we get back. Well, you

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>know we're not gonna do that. California hugs and kisses

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>will be a joke around during the Japanese bowing. But

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>but no, we'll get you know, all of us will

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>get through this, absolutely, and at some point, at some point,

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, twelve months, eighteen months, twenty four months,

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll find a vaccine for this or some kind of

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>cure and this will become a distant memory, like the

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>gas shortage during the Jimmy Carter administration. Oh I remember it,

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I do. I remember which you had to get gas

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>on your based on your license plate? Aging myself too.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I follow this very closely. The more I see media

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and watch this, I reminded of the movie Contagion. I've

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about Outbreak, remember that way. Have you guys

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>seen Contagion? And even in contagion. The wife dies of

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the disease. I think it's Gwyneth Paltrow. She dies of

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the disease. But the husband, Matt Damon, doesn't get it.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Was he immune? He was immune. So somehow the daughter,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm thinking, Carl's wife, somehow has an immunity. Her

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>immune system is just like exceptional monster. Well, look, the

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>ship was a walking Petrie dish, as I said. And

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>what's so pervasive about this virus is as was the

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>truth for me. I went were five days being positive

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>because I got the Japanese results back, as I said,

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>for long after I was already in Omaha, and that

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>also said I was positive. So I walked around the

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ship for four or five three days whatever that is

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>being positive. And and uh I could touch touch a railing.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And apparently the buck and the Germans can live for two, three,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>four or five hours on a surface. So that's how

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the ship, that's how the ship passed everything on that.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>You know that ground zero guy that got off in

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, he was all over the ship. And you

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>could touch a railing, go in an elevator, go on,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, walk on deck. That's a movie because that

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>patient zero was passing it and passing it and then

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's how it just goes. Carl. We're so happy

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you're doing well though, Thank you so much. Absolutely, What

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think is like some because some people stateside

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>here are really buying into this and some people aren't.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of the media coverage and the

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>response to this because to miss, to me, this is

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>very real, this is exceptionally real. You're a case of that.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>But do you think the media has overblown it or

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>underplayed at that we're underestimating what this virus could potentially become. Well,

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, first of all, social media is a disaster,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and there's so much misinformation on there and hysteria that

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to exist. I think the media now is

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>beginning to do a good job of it as I

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>get a better understanding of it. I think they I

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>think both President Trump might might parents and all the

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>c d C and all the government officials now are

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>staying totally on top of this, And you see that

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>from the news and the press conferences. We're seeing it

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>from the way the c d is operating with us

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>on the inside, that they're taking this very very seriously,

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that they've gotten a jump on this, but there's still

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>so many unknown answers. There's no guarantee that this isn't

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>going to become a major outbreak out there out here

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>in the States. The good news is it looks like

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>only two of the people getting it are dying or fatalities,

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and most of those are elderly or have a pre

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:27.479
<v Speaker 1>existing condition. So even with a major outbreak here, it's

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>not going to be that horrendous. Accept if the you know,

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>if a significant portion of the population gets it and

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>two percent or dying, that's a significant number. We don't

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>want anyone to be dying. Carl Um, thank you so much.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you. I mean the

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the amount of the amount of stress and things that

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you have going on in your life that you came

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>on to share your story to enlighten our listeners and

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>share some valuable information on how to maybe protect ourselves

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and what to be aware of of this virus which

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.479
<v Speaker 1>has now become very prominent in media. Um, we can't

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you enough, and we just want to send you

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all the love and prayers and thoughts for a speedy

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>recovery and hope you get back home to your wife

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and your radio station very soon and your dog just

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>sending you nothing but love, my friend. We appreciate you

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>so much. Thank you, guys. I'll take you up. I'll

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>take you up on your offer in the studio, Gavin,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you start practicing my corking. Hey, I got one more,

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>one more food question for you, because you were in

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Japan and now you're in Omaha. Kobe or wegg you um,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I would say, and you pronounced it Kobe. I thought

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it was Kobe. Kobe. Gavin's Vin, Carl, Carl. Gavin is

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>very much a foodie. He's been eating this sandwich the

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 1>whole time we've been doing this interview the entire time.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to tell you the brand of sandwich,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>but it rhymes with a Jersey Mike. Carl, Thank you, Carl,

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>thank you much, wishing you all the best and sending

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much. And we got you, buddy, Thank you,

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Okay, back from break. That was an amazing

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.919
<v Speaker 1>discussion with Carl. Wow, that was that was so real.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And when actually going through a quarantine, I mean on

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>top of the an illness, like the actual quarantine factors,

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I would have a panic attack. That would be worse

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>for me than the actual being sick. Yeah. Um so,

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>now I want to we have another guest, he's been

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:38.879
<v Speaker 1>on the show before. We have Dr Todd with us.

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Dr Todd, welcome back to the show, buddy, Hello, thank you.

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Um so, Yeah, we wanted to get you on to

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>follow up the discussion from carl Um to give us

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>some insight from a from a medical, a qualified medical standpoint,

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>because Gavin just gave his insight on this, on this coronavirus,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how reputable that is, but that's

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.919
<v Speaker 1>why we wanted to have you come on. Dr Todd.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Can you give us your insight to what you know

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>so far about the coronavirus? Sure. I mean there's a

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of information out there that people are trying to digest,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and at this point, it seems like the social disruption

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that's being caused by this is probably greater than the

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 1>disruption to human beings health. It's not to say that

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this is not trying to be a minimize er, but

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>when we look at the total number of cases that

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>have been documented, it's not a huge number, yet it

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>very well could become a huge number. And if there

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>were in fact the two to three death rate, in

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>particular in people who are chronicallyerly elderly. That and everybody

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in the world was inspected. It could lead to some

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>very high numbers the world's population were in fact, it

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>could lead to some very high numbers absolute numbers. Um.

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>But right now, you know, really what we're looking at is,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say a D eighties total cases that

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>have been documented. We don't know exactly how many cases

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>there have been me and the denominator could be quite

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a bit larger than and so therefore the death rate

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>could actually be lower than two. We just don't know yet.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That number is still fluid. But there's been a lot

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of discussion of this, a lot of headlines, and people

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>are pretty wrapped up. So is it crazy that I

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>was totally calm and then last night I had the

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 1>tipping point and I ordered a ten pound bag of rice.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, because somebody else was buying rice.

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Then I ordered pasta gloves non latex because I'm allergic

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to latex and pure l. Like I've gone off the rails,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Like what am I doing? I don't know what that

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you're a prepper. I don't know if it's in fact

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy to be prepared. But it's not that this is

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be a natural disass I think in a

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>work earthquake, not the coronavirus. Maybe I'm with you though,

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm thinking about this. If this starts going wild,

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to our lake house and to contained and

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I can fish, and I can hunt, and I can live.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 1>It's a big sting, Okay, So why is everyone buying rice?

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that just so that if we're like at home

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>we have food? What is the right? Why am I

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>buying rice? I literally just called the gang at show

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>time because I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Dr Todd, you know, there are no recommendations about rice

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>at the CDC that I have seen that. Speaking of fluid,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 1>how is this thing spread exactly? So it's a respiratory virus.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So typically it's spread by aerosol particles, meaning and when

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you cough or sneeze that those viral particles are suspended

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>in the air and then they land on surfaces and

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>people will put their hand on them and then often

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>touch their mouth or their eyes or put their finger

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in their nose or whatever it might be, and get

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a viral load that way. Either might be that someone

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>costs your sneezes in your general vicinity, and there's some

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>particles to spend it in the air and you inhale

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.720
<v Speaker 1>them and they take seat in your respiratory extract for instance,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that there was a doctor who died in China and

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>he probably experienced an extraordinarily high viral load because he

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was a round a bunch of these sick people, didn't

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, and was constantly inhaling numerous particles.

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the hypothesis. Um, you just the hand sanitizer

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>all over our hands? Is that doing anything? I would say?

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't comment because I don't know the

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>specific hand fantizers. The Typically, the recommendations we're making are

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that if you were to get on the plane or

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you were going to go to a restaurant and you

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to wipe down the table you were sitting out

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>with an alcohol swap and wash your hands before eating,

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that would probably a really good idea. Um, there are

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>some recommendations out there. People are recommending against avoiding um

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>dense crowded places like subways, but that is not a

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>recommendation from the CDC as of yet. Okay, how about

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>me up for disease control. And how about what's your

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>opinion of people walking around who are not infected walking

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>around with little medical masks on. I'm told from people

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>that that's simply silly because the first of all, don't

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>know how to wear the masks begin with UH, and

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not they're not sealing it properly, etcetera. What is

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>your opinion on that, because I just get a lot

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of hearsaye from people there. I mean, again, I don't

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>think that wearing a mask, a non well fitting mask,

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is really going to prevent you from getting uh this

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>respiratory illness um. The mask that me to be that

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>really we think do the best job are these really

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>tightly fitted masks are very hard to breathe, and they're

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>not really incatible with wearing for a long period of

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 1>time or walking around with and these massive You see

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>people maybe it gives them a sense of security, but

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen any recommendations anywhere that those are

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be helpful for the general population. If you were

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>sick and you were wearing one because you wanted to

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>minimize if you were coughing or sneezing, they might actually

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>help with that. But I don't think that the reverse

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>is true. And I haven't seen any recommendations suggesting anywhere

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that that is anything other than people trying to assuage

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>their anxiety. Because because I put one of those masks

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>on about a week ago, a friend of mine gave

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>me one. It was black, it looked really cool. It

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 1>made me feel like a ninja, but made me feel

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like made you feel like Baine or feel like Baine

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>from the Dark Knight Rises? Yes, Dr Todd? Are you

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>going to the movies? And are you going to the

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>grocery store? And are you going out to dinner like

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody else? What are you do it? Yeah? So I

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I am always finding my tendency to be a minimizer

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>um and I'm fighting it in this capacity. So yes,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I do still plan to travel. I do plan to

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 1>still to go out until I hear recommendations otherwise. And

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>people are asking me, well, what do you think could happen?

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hypothetically, I could go to a destination and

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a high number of cases and flights from that

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>destination to my home could be delayed or restricted, so

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I might get stuck somewhere. But personally, as a healthy

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>person without chronic respiratory disease. My personalness of worry about

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>myself is not terribly high. Um, if I had if

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I was elderly with multiple medical problems, multi system, organ failure, etcetera,

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking of taking an elective vacation, I

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>might think about delaying it. You know, but I've had

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>people get real sick traveling for elderly in a time

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>when this wasn't present. So you know, it is just

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 1>being around a lot of people and multiple disease papages

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that is that puts people at risks. So I'm not

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>taking any travel precautions at this time or isolation precautions

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 1>because there are any recommendations to support that. All right,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Another question? Alright, this sounds silly, but if this is

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a real question, I always I always ask about food. Question.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So there are some high end restaurants that fly in

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>uh seafood or fish from Japan? Right would you order

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>sushi from one of those types of restaurants? Right now?

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I would? I? I again, I mean, just thinking about

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it intellectually and making medical decisions the way I always

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>make them, I would. I mean one of my patients

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>went to an ethnic restaurant that's notorious for cooking and

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>with high salt, and he called me worried that he

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>might get coronavirus, and the truth of the truth of

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the answers, he was likely to go into hard failure

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>load and he was of you know, developing a viral

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>infection from you know, being in this ethnic restaurant. So again,

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I would not have a problem eating sushi flown in

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>from Japan or you know, the same respect. Because I

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>know this is gonna sound crazy for most of you listening.

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>You're going to roll your eyes, but some people don't know.

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I ordered this ring, see this new ring from and

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>three of them, big old one, and in the envelope

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it came from the People's Republic of China, and I

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>am wearing it because you cannot get coronavirus from a

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>ring that came through the mail, right, I washed it.

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that you can't. You should have seen John

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Oliver last night doing the funny, weird questions that people

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are asking because they just don't know. I heard stocks

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>for Corona beer plummeted. You can't fix about the ring.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I do not think that that ring is right if

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to swab it with alcohol I live dangerous.

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Dr Todd, I just wore it. Yeah, Jr. Tod, I

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>have I have a question for you. Um, Sure, the

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>thing that scares me about this isn't so much the virus.

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:24.879
<v Speaker 1>It sounds to be like a common flu of flu

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. It sounds like most people overcome it.

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's not the virus so much that really scares me,

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's how easily it's transmitted that really disturbs me. Um,

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>do you think that we, and by we, the c

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.760
<v Speaker 1>d C in general, everybody in general, all the doctors,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the specialists on this truthfully have an understanding of this virus?

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>And I believe someone in your practice is an infectious

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 1>disease doctor as well. Do they think that we we

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>truly know what this is? Like, Hey, it is exactly

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what it's shown to be, or is this still very

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>much unpred I would say that it is predictable. Um.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It is a novel coronavirus, meaning we know a lot

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>about the coronavirus strain which causes the common cold. This

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is a more a typical coronavirus, and we've seen things

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like SARS or MIRVs, systemic inflammatory response syndrome, etcetera. That

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that are related to these type of viruses. So we

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 1>are used to the way virus is spread and this one,

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you know why, it's a little more virulent in inflammatory.

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I know the answer to that yet. Um,

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 1>but but I'm not I don't know. I don't want

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to speak out of school here because I don't think

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we know everything there is to know about this yet.

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's not provided behaving an unpredictable way. Could say. So,

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we had carl On moments ago who was on the

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Princess cruise and he has coronavirus and is in quarantined

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>in Nebraska. So Daniel is kind of pulling up the numbers.

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think he said there was seven people on

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the ship and three hundred tested positives. Oh, seven hundred

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Americans and three hundred tested positive something like that. Is

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that similar to if there was a flu or? Is

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>this spread quicker and stronger and faster? Does that question

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>make sense? Or would if it for influenza A would

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that many people have it in close quarters like that

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>on a cruise? You know, I I don't know the

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>answer to that, because I also I don't know how

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 1>many of the absolute number of people that were on

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that ship. What proportion. I mean, there's certainly have been

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>epidemics in the past on cruise ships people in close quarters. Um,

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know, seven hundred people have just imagined there's

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>both doesn't have fifty people, and maybe it's a couple

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of thousand. It does seem like a pretty high penetration

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 1>that people would you know that people are getting sick

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>at a pretty high rate. Let's say it's if there's

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>people on the ship. UM. I think, just to clarify

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for our audience, I think I got the numbers wrong,

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But just for the sake of the conversation, let's pretend

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm close. Yeah. I mean again, there's about eighty

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>five thousand or so cases worldwide right now, maybe a

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>few more. You know, there's forty five thousand cases or

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>so in China. I think I have to look at

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the numbers are changing so quickly. Those are not huge

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 1>absolute numbers, and it's been around since the end of December. Um.

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But I not to say that this isn't contagious. It's

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>very contagious. But is it behaving in an unpredictable or

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>more virulent way? I don't think I could say that

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 1>with confidence right now, Um, what about this Dutch? Do

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>this like the birth of a new virus fascinates me,

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Like how that comes into our world just fascinates me.

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any knowledge or understanding on how a

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>new virus begins? Well a lot of times I I do.

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I do. It's sell my expertise. But there are spontaneous mutations, right,

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that's just evolution that you believe in that which I

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:08.319
<v Speaker 1>tend to um that DNA DNA mutation, you know, new

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 1>new life, you know, new versions of things happen. That's

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>how viruses or humans or any or living organisms evolved

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>through DNA mutations. And then the second is that you

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>might have a virus that's more common in another animal

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>species that then becomes infectious in human mammals. And so

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like the correct yes, I don't want to go too

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>much further into that because I just don't have the

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>expertise to really everything. And we're all trapped in this

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>room and Daniel's coughing, have here, dude out here. It's

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>also just being being having the title of a doctor.

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>We just like, look at you that you know everything

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that you know everything about all of this. Do you

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just put us at ease with whatever you say. Well,

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I I am. I I will say that I have

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>been feeling a lot of questions, and part of the

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>reason I was interested in having this form is actually

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to have a somewhat rational conversation about this and not

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 1>to minimize and say I'm not worried, not to say

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think this is a big deal, because

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's a big deal. But you know,

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>does it warrant lines at costco? I don't think so.

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I don't know if that's the

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>right answer to this, UM And I think that the

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>idea is that, look, if we are in a situation

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 1>where the diseases spreading rapidly in communities and people can't

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>necessarily get the supplies that they need, they should have

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>adequate supplies so that they may not have to run

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>out to the market for toilet paper or something like

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that anyone needs. So I have a question, right, I

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 1>have a question. So years ago there was not that

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>many years ago, wasn't there a version of coronavirus in

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean that killed Actually the more taliate was like

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 1>incredibly high, um and it was around right, and so

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>why didn't we hear about that at all, Uh when

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and that was happening, and and the and the death

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>rate was so high, but we're hearing about this. It

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was a death rate that's so utterly low. I think

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that this one tended to go further faster than the

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>MERV which is UM which is what you're referring to,

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and the r S And I just think that that

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>one dwindled a little bit faster. The numbers were declining

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Like the virus came into bloom. It affected

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people that have just sort of disappeared.

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>This one seems to be spreading in the community. UM

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>cases are popping up. We're not really sure how you

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 1>know it's not it doesn't it's not magic. I mean,

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>somehow the virus is traveling and in facting different communities

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and people. I don't know if it's I just don't know.

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about fourteen days that people are potentially

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>incubating this. But again there's probably I don't know what

0:53:59.880 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the person you were speaking to on the phone before me,

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know what their experienced with the virus was.

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But I imagine they're talking to you. He has the coronavirus.

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>What was his new this is just an end of one.

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>What were his explanation of the symptoms, Like he basically said, it's, uh,

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>he's feeling fine one day and then uh, you know,

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the next day, suddenly he has a fever, like an

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>eight hour long high fever. And then after this he

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>slept through it essentially, and it woke up and it

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>had subsided and a bit of a persistent cough. Yeah.

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I was actually quite fascinated by it

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>because it sounded it sounded, or at least seemed like

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the quarantine was the worst part of the illness, not

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the illness itself. So but but of course, you know,

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>obviously precautions have to have to be taken, but you know,

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>from everything that he was saying, it really sounded more

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like the quarantine is ultimately the worst part of the

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 1>illness if you if you don't die from it, right

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and right, and so there's not a high penetrant of

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a lot of people are comparing this

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to the influenza epidemic, and that was obviously at a

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>different time in history where we had less medical technology,

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>we knew less about infectious disease. We had less therapies

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>at our disposal. People were living in a little bit

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:25.320
<v Speaker 1>more densely populated areas, especially in cities, there might be

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>eighteen people living in one and two room households. Um

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>this one. I do think that the social component of it.

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>In the digital age, where there's a really rapid dissemination

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:39.240
<v Speaker 1>of information, that twenty news cycle, it's hard to verify.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Facts are kind of from a lot of different places.

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that people are, you know, I mean, the

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 1>social contagion and element of this is actually pretty interesting.

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you think about it from an evolutionary

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 1>perspective of your ancestors heard about something going down in

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the village a couple of miles away that was killing

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, five ten percent of the people, they would

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>want to isolate themselves from that village and not let

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>people either go to the village or come visit from

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that villa. And that that is a natural instinct of

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>human beings. It's about self preservation. And I think we're

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>just seeing this on speed basically, like it's happening is

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>so fast, and people don't really know how to react

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to the news. I don't always know how to react

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to the news. And I'm constantly fact checking stuff, constantly

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>getting questions. So part of that is I think right now,

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the disruption that we're seeing to the fabric of society

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>as a result of this is probably more significant than

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the actual illness. Would go on to say that, you know,

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe there there could be if people will doomsday thinkers

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 1>are like, well, are we prepared for an illness of

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>effects to percent of the population brands among ventilators. I

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>think that would be hard to imagine that we are

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>prepared for that because it would be so unprecedented. And

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:56.240
<v Speaker 1>another question, Um, so this is just just for compare

0:56:56.520 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>compared comparison's sake, um so versus influenza, just the common

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the flu as we knew it. Um what percentage of

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the of of people who get infected from the flu

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>dive versus what percentage versus this coronavirus. Yeah, I think,

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, I think that it's around point

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>six percent of documented influenza. UM is approximately what it is.

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And the numbers for this are between two I've heard

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>between you know, I would say one to two percent,

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and let's just say, let's say call it two to

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>three percent. So that's you know, a couple hundred times

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>higher the multiple you know, four acts of influenza. Um.

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know also the number of people that have

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>influenza currently is much higher than the number of people

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who have this. I want to ask you one more question, Todd,

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Dr Todd Um. And this is a little bit far

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>out there. I'll even preface it with this, this is

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>my mind. This is a little bit far out there.

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But I believe the word the Earth has about I

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 1>think roughly almost eight billion people on it today, and

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe that we are putting so much pressure on

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the Earth and it's finite resources. There's only so much food,

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>there's only so much water. I believe we're just putting

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on the Earth and that population continues

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to grow and grow that I believe at some point

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the Earth is going to push back and that something

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to always have just believed this for like

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>ten years, that something is going to come around and

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>just push back against the rapid expansion of population on

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Earth. And so when something like this comes up,

0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I actually get scared. I'm like, what could this be?

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>That thing? And this is just in my brain right,

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:51.959
<v Speaker 1>this is this isn't so this is just a thought

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I have. But I can't see us as humans continuing

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to put so much pressure on the Earth and it's

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>finite resources with the Earth pushing back at some point.

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Does that have any relevance in your mind? Are you

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>just like Brooks? You crazy? You're crazy Canadian? Huh No.

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that there is a natural balance to populations.

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes a lot of sense. And I

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think that with dense populations of human beings, the likelihood

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 1>of rapid spread of an infectious disease is more likely.

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And as the population density of the Earth increases, than

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the likelihood of spread of disease increases, and it is possible.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that this cv I D s v

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I D nineteen is the doomsday virus. But you can

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine a much more virulent virus than this that has

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a you know, really that's a respiratory virus that causes

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:55.400
<v Speaker 1>pneumonia and death. And if that's ten or fatality rate

0:59:55.440 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 1>across all population, independent of comorbidity, its something like that

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<v Speaker 1>is not beyond It's not beyond my imagination. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's what this is. But but you

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<v Speaker 1>can see how something expects quickly around the world. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I just I feel that's in the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of possibility. I don't think I'm crazy with that. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching too much walking I've never Walking dead, thinking

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>about walking Dead, I'm very prepared for the zombie apocalypse,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that. See I I I disagree in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I understand the that angle. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting angle, but there's there's a couple of holes

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<v Speaker 1>in that. In that I feel like if we double

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<v Speaker 1>the population, will have twice as many geniuses to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the problem, and and and twice as many people

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<v Speaker 1>can come like adding to the problem with litter, with waste,

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<v Speaker 1>with not recycling. But I view I view the genius

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<v Speaker 1>and an industry as the as a solution. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other guys, you know, what are we gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna throw your phone out, You're gonna get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of your electric car. I mean, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So until we're all ready to do that, which I'm not, um,

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<v Speaker 1>then I say, let's get let's increase the population with

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<v Speaker 1>geniuses so we could solve the problems. Dr Todd, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for coming on. Man, We're losing

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<v Speaker 1>gab here not not a problem. I hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>was helpful and very useful information to anybody who's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, man, look forward to seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>be well. Thanks a lot. Thanks helpful doctors only wanted

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<v Speaker 1>him to help all of us. That's my point. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of good bye bye. So we're reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>to Rick. Rick, we got you on buddy. Where you

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<v Speaker 1>at you there, Rick? What's up? Brooks? I am actually

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<v Speaker 1>on a work trip right now in Dubai, United Arab

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<v Speaker 1>Emirates country. I've never been before but always wanted to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty amazing. Actually, then, is it the You're

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<v Speaker 1>right in du buy the city of Dubai. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>am in the city of Dubai currently. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the it's actually the city that I'm in. The

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<v Speaker 1>area of the city that I'm in, Dubai is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet City, which is where all the tech companies

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<v Speaker 1>are located. So I'm working on a job right now

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<v Speaker 1>with one of my clients in the tech center, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like Silicon Valley. Rick. So when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>your window right now, what do you see. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty decent hotel room and I'm looking onto

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Island, so I'm stay seeing the water. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful country, super warm, it's very pleasant right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking out on Palm Island, which is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the famous man made islands that they created where

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy homes, and it looks like a giant

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<v Speaker 1>palm from the sky. It's pretty cool. Okay, So tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about traveling there. What was it like at the

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<v Speaker 1>airport when you left San Francisco and what was it

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<v Speaker 1>lie when you arrived? And like, we're referencing coronavirus, so

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<v Speaker 1>did you see people in mass like describe when you

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<v Speaker 1>left to travel internationally and when you got there? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>poem um. So I actually flew out of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took a regular flight from Oakland to Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles l a X. And I came on a direct

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<v Speaker 1>flight from l a X to Dubai. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>tracking coronavirus. I travel a lot for workbooks and and

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<v Speaker 1>I was tracking the coronavirus quite a bit, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was still in sort of the infancy stages that in

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<v Speaker 1>the U S and sort of abroad aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious areas of like China and South Korea and iran Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and right before I left, I was tracking everything on

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<v Speaker 1>like my in the UAE area, and I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at they had the UAE and Dubai had actually banned

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<v Speaker 1>all flights from iran So to and from i ran

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<v Speaker 1>Um Tehrans especially, and so that was a little concerned

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But when I got to l A x

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<v Speaker 1>Um kind of did my normal, you know, walk through

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<v Speaker 1>the airport, did everything. People were wearing masks, but nothing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like I would say probably ten percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>people were wearing masks. It wasn't where I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to wear masks or every and I was not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a mask at the time, but everything was just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more heightened. So wherever I was going,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sort of antial anyway, as you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of you know, I always washed my hands,

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<v Speaker 1>I always looked for the clean feed, I always looked

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<v Speaker 1>for areas in the airport that maybe cleaning than others.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that to me is more heightened than it

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<v Speaker 1>ever had been before. So I was continually washing my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the people that I was standing around,

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<v Speaker 1>looking to me, what I could be sneezing or coughing,

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<v Speaker 1>like heightened on that side of things. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a little nerve Vackum. To be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, Rick, how are you feeling right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Being that you're in another country, you're not back at home?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you scared? How you feeling right now? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel actually, you know what? I feel pretty good. Um. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of just continuing to watch the news. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching the I'm reading a lot of news articles right

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<v Speaker 1>now and kind of like how to prevent it, how

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, maintain things are really sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>being in check with my body. How do I feel? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Being here? I feel fine, I feel great. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that anybody here is super concerned about I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there, I went to the mall or because I

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<v Speaker 1>had some downtime. Um, there's a really cool mall in

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<v Speaker 1>Durvide where they have like the indoor skiing thing. I'm sure, Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a skier, so that would be something that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be doing. Um. But I didn't notice many people

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<v Speaker 1>wearing masks. And there was a certain point while I

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<v Speaker 1>was at that mall that I was kind of sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and I was walking around, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden they got later on in the afternoon, I eat

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<v Speaker 1>munch there and more people flooding into the mall, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, what of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are the checklist that thinks of what not to

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<v Speaker 1>do for basically to catch the coronavirus, I was basically doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was traveling out along are Airline International for sixteen hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I was you know, in ubers, in public transportation. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I was staying in a hotel, which I had never

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<v Speaker 1>stayed that before, so I'm not sure the cleanliness of

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<v Speaker 1>that or how they you know, it was obviously a rated,

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<v Speaker 1>nicely rated hotel. I was going into large public areas

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<v Speaker 1>which were basically like a mall. Um And so once

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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel that or acknowledge that internally with myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like on the first day, because I had kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an off day, I started peeling it all back. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what I'm gonna I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out and look anymore. If I had through town.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just because I really sort of started like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think quarantines maybe a little extreme of or word,

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<v Speaker 1>but I sort of like started quarantining my self and

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out in my hotel, just doing certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>I was washing my hands every time I would come

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<v Speaker 1>back up from breakfast or i'd have lunch, I'd washed

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<v Speaker 1>my hands obviously before I washed my my hands after.

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<v Speaker 1>I was paying attention to the silver ware that was

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, the plates that were putting down in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, because I'm eating out every single time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was really paying attention and I am paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to everything that I'm like doing, and it's really annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly. It's it's it sucks because you don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>how many times you pick up your phone and your

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<v Speaker 1>phone's in your pocket, your phone's on the seat in

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<v Speaker 1>the cab, your phone's on the airline seat, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're touching your phone constantly, and then you're grabbing like

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of bread and dipping it into the the

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<v Speaker 1>hummus or the able all we're eating it. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like those all things that because of this outbreak, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very unfortunate going on. Um, I'm paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>looked on on this trip. So it's crazy, Rick, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you calling this, dude. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot going on over there, but just

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<v Speaker 1>work wise, but also just taking the time to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with us about this. My friend, I stay safe, travel

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<v Speaker 1>safe and and get home. Well, buddy, we miss you,

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Uh can you call Hanna now? So Hannah used

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<v Speaker 1>to intern with us, a young lady over in Spain studying,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get her take on this coronavirus and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in her life right after the break, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>are you there? We miss you? Are you there? Hello?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you guys? How are you? So? Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening? Oh my god, it's kind of like a nightmare,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of feel like the world is and

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<v Speaker 1>then because everything is so chaotic, like everyone has masks

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<v Speaker 1>on the airport, on the streets, like everyone's freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just such a nightmare. So, Hanna, you're in Spain

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Can you give us little insight to what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like over there. That's actually not the worst here

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But I flew back from France this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the time that I was on the plane

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour and a half, there had been twelve

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<v Speaker 1>new cases. Because I like refresh my web page every

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds to see how many people have it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it went at by twelve people in an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Thank so, what's the plan? You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when you're coming home or what's happening. No, so, our program,

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<v Speaker 1>the program I'm with, keeps emailing us and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>basically will be recommended to go home if it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>a level two, which means over two hundred cases, and

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<v Speaker 1>right now it's a little over a hundred, So as

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<v Speaker 1>of now we're staying here um and then if it

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<v Speaker 1>reaches a level three, we like have to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>But our program just has to figure out how we

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<v Speaker 1>can complete our classes or else all the classes that

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking we don't get credit for, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>put all the these kids that are brought like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole semester behind. So our program has to figure that out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're scrambling and like everyone's panicking. It's such a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>How's your how's your little Hannah? Is our little Hanna

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets a little anxious. How's your anxiety about

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<v Speaker 1>it all? Oh my gosh, Amy, you would literally be

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of me. I'd go in elevators, I explained,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and my anxiety has been so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I needed this experience to come abroad. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm the most chill out of all my

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<v Speaker 1>friends here about the whole thing, because I know my

1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:36.800
<v Speaker 1>parents were so proud of me, and they follow me

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, so they were like, you're growing up, so

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<v Speaker 1>you feel pretty safe and are you doing any like

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<v Speaker 1>are you wearing a mask or gloves or what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing over here? I have a mask, Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>wore it like through the airport and on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>just because there's so many people there, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>like handwipes, but I wiped my hands with twenty four seven. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just try not to go in like super

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<v Speaker 1>crowded places. It was hard this weekend in Paris, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually it was crazy because we went to the Louver

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<v Speaker 1>Museum and then the next day they shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't letting anyone else, and because of Corona, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many people that go in it. Hey, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>so in the US you can't even find Pureux are

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<v Speaker 1>they are they sold out there too? Yeah? So before

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<v Speaker 1>I flew to France, I went to the pharmacy on

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<v Speaker 1>my street to ask their face mask, and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>like literally laughed in my spaceies like there are no

1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:35.120
<v Speaker 1>face masks here, and my parents brought me and my

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<v Speaker 1>friends for from home and now we have them here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we finally have some facetoffs. But I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get them for two weeks and they're like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>none in Barcelona's crazy. So I've heard that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the programs, the study abroad programs, are sending their students

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<v Speaker 1>back home back to the US. Is that the case

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<v Speaker 1>with any of your friends right now? So s m U,

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<v Speaker 1>s m U and Boisy are the only two schools

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<v Speaker 1>that I know for sure that have told all of

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<v Speaker 1>their kids from Barcelona. And we've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>in contact and like call San Diego. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so stressed out of the year because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what to do right now. Oh my god. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I would do. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would come home, I know, I think I would wait

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<v Speaker 1>until they're like you gotta go. That shows the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between me and Daniel. I'm like, I'd come home. Daniel's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm write it out well. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>my parents about it, and my dad is like, I

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<v Speaker 1>give you maybe two more weeks. But my friends who

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<v Speaker 1>are studying brought in Florence, they're already home, and my

1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:44.519
<v Speaker 1>friends that are in Madrid are like getting sent home

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<v Speaker 1>this week. They haven't until Friday to move out. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be safe. We're here. Well, yeah, if you need anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd love to have you come start working once

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<v Speaker 1>you've been. Once you've been. The fourteen days we just

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Rick was in Dubai and we told him

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<v Speaker 1>he's not allowed to come for fourteen days. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>hang in there. We'll see you soon. You guys soon,

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<v Speaker 1>I miss you, guys. By who that was? That was

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<v Speaker 1>our first like breaking news edition of how Many Fake podcast? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it, though I loved it. It was usually

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<v Speaker 1>we have discussions about topics. This was. This was about

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<v Speaker 1>a current and relevant and prominent topic present in the

1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:37.040
<v Speaker 1>world today. So I liked it. I think we all

1:13:37.120 --> 1:13:39.080
<v Speaker 1>need to try to stay away from our potential freak

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<v Speaker 1>out mode. Though with all that info, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>a man m I don't know. I don't know gaff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't want to undersell the people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also don't want to cause panic. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do hope that through Carl through Dr Todd. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Hannah through Rick that you guys have a little

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<v Speaker 1>more information at least today on on the coronavirus and

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<v Speaker 1>what to do to there for yourself or your family

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<v Speaker 1>and where to find out more information about it. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>next time we do a breaking news report, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you in like a suit and tie gave.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm a suit and tie kind of man.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a clip on. You got a clip on.

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<v Speaker 1>I got like multi versions of clip on. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>see you as like a bow tie guy. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a clip on boat ties. Okay, there you go too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this week. Thank you everybody for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to My name is Brooks. Like til next week, take

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<v Speaker 1>care of one another, love one another, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you back here for another episode of How Men Think