1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky and JOOKI, I'm 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome 4 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk 5 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal. We've got 6 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Dwayne Perkins on the show, who is a brilliant writer, actor, comedian. 7 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: We used to do stand up together. I just I 8 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: just love them and I love our conversation today. I 9 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: think you're gonna enjoy it. I've been having so much 10 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: fun with like urban legends, and I think it's also 11 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: because I'm traveling so much and every time I go 12 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: places like that's it's part of the fabric of every 13 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: area of the world. Every place has their their lore, 14 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: their stories, and I just I want to hear about 15 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: all of them, especially if they have a funny name. 16 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: So as always, you know, if you got something good, 17 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: send it to me. Oh, here's a story that I 18 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: got from Sean. Sean says, when I was in high school, 19 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I worked at a one hour photo lab, remember those, 20 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: in a local mall. One evening, a woman came in 21 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: with negatives to make some reprints. She was clearly shaken. 22 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I took the negative and made the prince. When she 23 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: retrieved them and looked at them, she was even more distraught. 24 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't notice anything unusual at first. It just looked 25 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: like a family standing for a photo in front of 26 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: a fireplace. She explained that when the photo was first 27 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: printed and they were looking at them, the young boy 28 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: and the photo immediately started crying and said it's her. 29 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: She told me that the night the photo had been taken, 30 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: his mother had been killed in a car crash and decapitated. Okay, 31 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: In the photo you could see what looked like a 32 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: blonde female head on the mantle of the fireplace, along 33 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: with other things like a clock, vases, etc. It was 34 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: really unsettling. Yeah, I would think so, Sean. Spooky. Well, 35 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sending that, Sean. Okay, screw 36 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: your head on tight. It's time for me and Dwayne 37 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Perkins with the show. Oh my god, I don't believe 38 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: that I'm joined Bay Duane Perkins, Hi. 39 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me. 40 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so happy to see you. Likewise, I 41 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: often fly American airlines and I've seen the blackening twice 42 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: on it. Wow, I watched it, I think two times full. 43 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: I just think it's very cool when people watch it 44 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: on planes, specifically, Oh my. 45 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: God, I love I love watching movies on planes, but 46 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: particularly that one. I loved it. 47 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 48 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: I bet you. You were asked this a lot when 49 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you were promoting it. But like horror and comedy, Yeah, 50 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: what's the connection? You know? 51 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: The connection is emotion. I think they both elicit an 52 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: emotion that is outline out. Whether that's a scream or 53 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: a laugh, your body is still releasing an expression of emotion. 54 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: And I think horror and comedy the only difference is 55 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: on the spectrum of where that expression is coming from. 56 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: And I think there's a very thin line between a 57 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: laugh and a scream. Sometimes a laugh is a scream. 58 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: A scream can turn into a laugh. So I feel 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: like they're like fraternal twins in a sense. 60 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh fascinating. They're definitely close relatives. Yes, yeah, because that's 61 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: the thing. If I'm like super scared, I laugh instantly after. 62 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: Same, And when I'm scared, my first instinct is to 63 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: crack a joke to make the less And then sometimes 64 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: when somebody is trying to think you're a joke that 65 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: you got to instill fear in them to get them 66 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: to shape up. 67 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: I just love horror comedy. Same, that's I mean, that's 68 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: sort of the world we're in over here on this pod. Yes, 69 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: lauch and we get a little spooks. 70 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the up down the roller coaster. I 71 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: like that. 72 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: I like to know what's not coming next surprise me. 74 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: I might think a life is coming, but maybe you're 75 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: gonna scare me. I might be like, oh, cover my eyes, 76 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: Oh wait, there's a he he ha hah. 77 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: That time. 78 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: I love the little trickery. It's mischievous. 79 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh I love a little miss chef. Have you ever 80 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: seen a ghost? 81 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't think I've like seen one, but I've definitely 82 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: felt some where in La I was staying at a 83 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: hotel what is it called, things called like the Hollywood Hotel, 84 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Hollywood Roosevelts. No, it's not, it's like on what is 85 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: that street? It is on Wilton and I believe Moros 86 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Santa Monica. I'm gonna look it up. But I was 87 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: staying there and I felt like a presence, like the 88 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: whole vibe of the hotel was kind of off and weird. 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: It was very old. And then I was walking to 90 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: the elevator and I like pressed a button and nothing happened, 91 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 2: and then I felt someone behind me and I turned 92 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: around and no one was there. And then then life 93 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: liquered and I was like, this is crazy. Then I 94 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: looked it up and it was allegedly like a very 95 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 2: haunted hotel house that I should have looked up before 96 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: I stayed there, and uh, yeah, it was one of 97 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: the most haunted places in LA. And I didn't know 98 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: until after I felt something and then I looked it 99 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: up and said this, yeah, this makes sense. 100 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 101 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was strange, and I just like felt like 102 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: such a large urge to run, so I did. 103 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I think every hotel was haunted. That's my belief, especially 104 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: old ones. It's like people are gonna die, they just 105 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: do that. 106 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. I also went on a like a haunted tour 107 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: of LA with some friends because they came in and 108 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: I was like, well, we need something to do, and 109 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: we were just walking around Hollywood and it was just 110 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: this man be like, so this person died here, Why 111 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: chandelier fell on this person in this who? Like it 112 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: was true. 113 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: I did that one time. Was it like literally Hollywood 114 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Boulevard area. 115 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And they were kind of like talked about 116 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: like Griffith and like the old Los Angeles how it 117 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: was like why it was called the wild Wide West 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: and being like, yeah, it was just full of death, 119 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: people just dying totally, and I didn't know that. And 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: then now me and my friends, I think LA is 121 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: just haunting and florid dead people. 122 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of is. There's people just people 123 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: die a lot, yeah, period, like they just die. 124 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: I would say LA feels of all the places I've 125 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: been or lived. LA has like a particularly spookier vibe 126 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: for me. 127 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: LA is the city of like unfinished business. 128 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of like. 129 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Possibly I'm not going to make a general but they're 130 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: there is a lot of bitterness, a lot of like 131 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I came out here to do this thing and that 132 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: it didn't happen, and I died before it did, and 133 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: now I'm just like out here looking to achieve that 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: whatever the goal was. 135 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: That's what it really feels like. And I saw this 136 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: psychic once who made me believe in psychics, showed me 137 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: I was a little psychic, and I immediately internalized and said, yeah, 138 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: I've always thought that, but like a. 139 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Little psychic I do in what way. 140 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: I think that I have instincts that feel a little 141 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: bit supernatural at times. I have a really good memory, 142 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: and so I think there are moments where I've like 143 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: dreamed of the future, and then in real time i'd recognize, Oh, 144 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: I remember the exact day that I had that dream, 145 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: and people would be like, no, that's just TV, and 146 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's not. It's an actual image in 147 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: my brain that I can recall from another time. And 148 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: then when it happens in real life, I'm like, yes, 149 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: this is the moment I had a dream about. It 150 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: had no contacts or significance until this moment, but there's 151 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: a clear amb. 152 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: So you're like spoiler alert, Like I already know what's 153 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 154 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's crazy because I never like remember it 155 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: until after it happened, and like in real time I'm like, oh, yeah, 156 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you like something's about to happen, but 157 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: when it happens, I'm like, oh, I've seen this before. 158 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: And then I have like really strong instincts. And this 159 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: is why the psychic told me that I was psychic. 160 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: Specifically because around the time I had like got a 161 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: bunch of drugs from this woman in a captain in 162 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: a treehouse and where else. It was a good time. 163 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: She had a treehouse in silver Lake. 164 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had like a house and then like there 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: was a tree just like in the middle of the house, 166 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: like within the house. It was crazy perfect, and me 167 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: and my arty friends were like, oh, we're gonna have 168 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: like these sleepovers and just like try them and like 169 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: draw pictures and do art. We were just very nerdy 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: because we have never done any drug harder than weed. 171 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: It was like what was it was? It was like shrooms, acid, 172 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: d MT. She's to give us like a bunch of 173 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: and we literally went there because I just was trying 174 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: to try rooms. And then she said here's these other 175 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: drugs and we said okay, thank you, ma'am. And I 176 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: was being who we are. We're just like nerds. And 177 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: so I went to the psychic in Montreal and she 178 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: was like, you've been doing a lot of drugs and 179 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: I was like ooh, and then she was like no, no, 180 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: but you have like a really good grip, like you're 181 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: like doing something that feels so healthy. And I was 182 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: like thank you, because I think so as well. And 183 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: then she literally said, but if you ever try coke, 184 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: it will ruin your life. And I said, I literally 185 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: have always felt that. And the first time I was 186 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: ever offered cocaine, I screamed like I was in a 187 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: horror movie. And I was like, I don't know why 188 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: my reaction is that strong, and she was like, yes, 189 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: you have a psychic level ability of intuition. And I said, 190 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: I've always felt the two girls. So all I needed 191 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: was one person to just tell me that what I've 192 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: already felt was right. And I said, okay, that's truth 193 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: for me. 194 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see a cocaine. I don't think that 195 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: would be good for you. 196 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: I won't. 197 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: You're from Illinois, right, yes, Oh, thank god, I got 198 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it right. I just some research about some like kind 199 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: of like spooky things, urban legends and like, do you know, 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: do you any come to mind about Illinois? 201 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean when I was younger, it was like Candy Man, 202 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: but that. 203 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Was because of the movie, That's right, that is. 204 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: And my cousins lived in Kabrinan Green, so I would 205 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: like be there and I could not disconnect the two. 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: And then also that was based off real crimes that 207 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: happened in a building where a person snuck into somebody's 208 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: house through their mirror because they they cheaped out on 209 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: the construction of the building, so inside the mirrors they 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: connected houses. There was no back, so if you took 211 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: out your mirror and they knocked out the other mirror, 212 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: you were in somebody else's apartment. So a group of 213 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: guys used to to get into a person's house and 214 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: they killed them. So it was like the whole thing 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: where there was like a conflation of like the real 216 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: crimes and then Candyman and my young child brain was like, oh, 217 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: this is all real. 218 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't imagine growing up when that movie came 219 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: out and being over there. 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: I loved the remake though. Yeah, that's a good one. 222 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: There's like stories about like the Chicago fire and kind 223 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: of all of those people that died there. 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: It's not like a cow kicked over something. 225 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, missus o'larry's cow kicked it over and then the 226 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: city went up in flames. 227 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Damn. 228 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't know any others. Like there's like there's a 229 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: hunted house I think in southern like a cornfield. There's 230 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: like an urban legend around that that it was like 231 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: an old prison and people died. 232 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: Also in Chicago, there's a lot of like al Capone 233 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: lived here. 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Yes, all the mafia stuff. 235 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: Al Capone's one of these ghosts that is booked and blessed. 236 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: He's everywhere you go to lots of I guess they're 237 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: like al Capone hangs out in this building you go 238 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: to Chicago, like he's just getting those frequent flyer miles. 239 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: In christ In every picture I see of him, it 240 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: just looks like, go mass from the Adam's family. 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, got a milla. Okay, so this isn't 242 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: really an urban legend. It's just something that I feel 243 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the need to talk about. In Franklin County, Illinois, there's 244 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: a real place called the Boner Cemetery. 245 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: And what is the Boner a category of. 246 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: It's just a cemetery. It's called the Cemetery. 247 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: I was like, is that a special group of protected people? 248 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: No? No, there's just there's a sign I found online 249 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: that just says Boner Cemetery. I just wanted you to. 250 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: Know, thank you. I'm gonna tell people. 251 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the co Homo Monster? 252 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: The co Homo monster? 253 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the co Homo Monster. No, this was posted by 254 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: Q ninety eight point five's website says legends say that 255 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: the East Peoria Police Department received over two hundred calls 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: on July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two, from people claiming 257 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: that they had seen a very smelly, very large creature 258 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: similar to Bigfoot roaming throughout Tazewell County. Search crews never 259 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: located the creature. Why did two hundred people say that? 260 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Do you think it was a person in a costume? 261 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: It seems like that was like the one night that 262 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: everyone's like the cohomo monsters running around? What was the 263 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: date again, July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two. 264 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh, and it was hot, So I'm just like, who's 265 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: his fang walking around this costume? 266 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: That's why there was smelly? 267 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it maybe it was a creature. I'm very 268 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: open to the possibility. 269 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Are you a bigfoot person? Do you think that that's 270 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: the thing? 271 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it wouldn't be. 272 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm just like the other day, me and 273 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: my friend was walking and she like told me to 274 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: like look at a thing, and I was like, what 275 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: are you talking? And I didn't see anything, And I 276 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: thought that she was like talking about like a ghost 277 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: or something, and I was so ready to be like, Okay, 278 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: what does it look like? Tell me? She was like no, 279 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: the sign stupid and I was like, oh, I'm I'm 280 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: like too ready for something to like shatter the reality. 281 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm just like, please tell me that things are real, 282 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: because yeah, I'm just like interesting. I feel like there 283 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: has to be a more interesting like dimension or like 284 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: layer to like what we're doing, because I'm like, what 285 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: is this? Like what is reality? There has to be 286 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: like something that we don't know, Like, there has to 287 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: be something, but. 288 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: This is it? 289 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: Right? 290 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: It can't. I'm like, come on, have you ever heard 291 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: of that Whole House? Devil Baby says Illinois's Whole House 292 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: has a handful of spooky stories attached to it, but 293 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: the spookiest one involves a woman giving birth to a 294 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: devil baby just that. 295 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: U I see, No, this isn't Chicago, yeah, at the 296 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: University of Chicago the Whole House like that, because I 297 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: do feel like I've heard of this before, but please 298 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: tell me more. 299 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: So, she gives birth to a devil baby that she 300 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: brought to a Whole House to be raised by a 301 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: woman named Jane Adams. Legend says Jane Adams forced the 302 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: child to live in the attic until he died, and 303 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: his devil face can be seen through the walls of 304 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Whole House. 305 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: I feel like I have heard of this. 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: I've heard this story before too, It's a popular one. 307 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: The Devil Baby. 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I heard of this because Whole 309 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: House was in the same area that the University of 310 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: Chicago is in right now. I feel like I've heard 311 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: of it, like on a tour of that school. 312 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: And no, you're right, you'll see the Devil Baby. 313 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: It was like, Oh, he's like an urban legend for 314 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: like this bluilding. 315 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: What about the White Lady of Bachelor's Grove Cemetery. 316 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: I mean that sounds like every white lady. 317 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: There's one thing white ladies love, is bad, the bachelor. 318 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm just like, is this just a whit lady who 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: was having a day? 320 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: According to Ghost citytours dot Com, they call her the 321 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Madonna of Bachelor's Grove, Oh, also known as the Woman 322 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: in White or the White Lady. She first appeared in 323 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: a photograph taken by a group of paranormal investigators exploring 324 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: the cemetery in nineteen seventy nine, she was described as 325 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: wearing a hooded robe and carrying a baby in her arms, 326 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: not the devil baby, it says in later sightings she 327 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: wore only a white dress. She got rid of that baby. 328 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: And in the hooded robe. Thank god, that braining is terrible, 329 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: So all white hooded robe, ma'am read the room. 330 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Right, and later citing she wore a white dress and 331 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: often wandered the graveyard without the baby. Legend says she's 332 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: looking for someone or something, though it's never specified who 333 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: or what. Her most famous appearance was in nineteen ninety one, 334 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: when an infrared photograph showed her sitting on a headstone 335 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: at the north side of the cemetery, gazing out at 336 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the fence and trees beyond. It was taken by the 337 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: Oaklawn Ghost Research Society and became quite popular at the time. Gee, 338 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: how can you show us that picture? Please? 339 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Sure? 340 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Ros Okay, we're gonna take a look at this. This 341 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: is allegedly the White Lady. I don't believe that that's 342 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: a real photo. It's I mean, it's an infrared photo. 343 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how infrared works, but why wouldn't that 344 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: just be like a regular lady just sitting. 345 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: I feel like they just saw some white lady sitting 346 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: on a bench and they were like, come on, take 347 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: a pic. We'll say that that's her. 348 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels like Christopher Columbus just being. 349 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: Like right there, this is what Christopher Columbus would have said. 350 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: He literally just went to new places and was like, oh, 351 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: these are brand new things. Yeah, no, those are just 352 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: regular people. And I feel like this is the same 353 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: instance where they were just like, you know what, we 354 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: want to find a ghost. So in their hey, they 355 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: were like that white lady over there, it's a little patial. 356 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: That's a dead lady. 357 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: She did There's no way this is a ghost. In 358 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, it's too much like a lady. She's definitely 359 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: like slumped over. 360 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm like it has the posture of just a tired lady. 361 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: I feel she is sighing. She's also would be like. 362 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 2: More corpor like. It feels like it would have like 363 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: not just like real life people burdens. 364 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: Yes, this ghost is tired from hiking through the cemetery. 365 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: She's she's very much giving, like I need to like 366 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: take a load off. 367 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: It's just like a deep breath. 368 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: I need a Snickers. 369 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: Then you can see kind of like the quoffs in 370 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: the hair. 371 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a ghost. 372 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: That's not a ghost. 373 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: And if you're wondering what we're talking about, just google. 374 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: That's just just google. Uh, I don't know, White Lady 375 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: of Bachelor's Grove cemetery photo and you'll see what we're 376 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: talking about. 377 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: I don't. 378 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: It also kind looks like you know what it reminds 379 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: me of. It is like that Sunday in the Park 380 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: painting Chicago. M hm, you know, it's like at the 381 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Art Institute that big it's like very like pointilessm dots. 382 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: Yes, my grandmother had a copy of that in her bedroom. 383 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: It reminds me of that. It's just like a lady 384 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: sitting outside. 385 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't because for some reason it gave me the 386 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: vibe of Susan Boyle, the lady that was singing that boil. Also, 387 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't really give cemetery. It's like she's sitting on 388 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: a basket. 389 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Now, I will say, it kind of looks like her 390 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: face didn't come all the way through. You know. I 391 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes a ghost they don't give you the 392 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: full body. It's like some of it just didn't process 393 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: into our reality. 394 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's missing face and like a calf, because that 395 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: blends out as well. Uh, you know, it could just 396 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: be like a special like if she turned and she 397 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: didn't have a face, I wouldn't then be like, all right, 398 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: that's a ghost. 399 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: It says. Some say that the uncanny clarity and quality 400 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: of the photo indicate that it was a hoax, but 401 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: it was far from the last captured sighting of the Madonna. 402 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know, you said this was ninety one 403 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: ninety one, Okay, I don't know. Maybe why not. Let's 404 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: just for fun, let's say, sure, sure, why not? 405 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm the Madonna of Bachelor's Grove. 406 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: There's also some great creatures, like cryptid monsters in Illinois. 407 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh I think so. To this day, me and my sister, 408 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: no one would. They said that we were crazy. We 409 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: saw like a flying creature. 410 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Tell me. 411 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: We were standing on our front porch and there was 412 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: like this big shadow that came over and we looked 413 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: up and we were like what the hell And we 414 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: ran into the house and it and the way we 415 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: were like, hey, there's a there was a big creature outside. 416 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: My family was like what are you talking about? And 417 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: we were like it seemed like a really big bat, 418 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: but like a bat, like the size of like a 419 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: chart actor. 420 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Like it was just this huge thing that was the 421 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: moth Man. 422 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: And we were like and they were still like, no, 423 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: y'all are y'all are making stuff up? And to this 424 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: day we're both like, you you remember that big, bad creature, right, 425 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: And she was like, yeah, I remember that. 426 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Was the moth Man. You know, the moth Man who 427 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: is like famous for West Virginia. It's sort of like 428 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: where the moth Man got his break. But as time 429 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: has gone on, more and more reports have come out 430 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: of Chicago of the moth Man. 431 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: I would believe it because it was crazy somebody I've 432 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: never seen. 433 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what the moth Man looks like? 434 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: I don't. 435 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna pull up a picture of the moth 436 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: Man and tell me if this is who was flying 437 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: over you that day. Well, there is a famous statue 438 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: of him in West virgin Yeah, and he's got hakes moment. 439 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: Is like the sex s that is a thick creature. 440 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: Okay, Like this is the moth Man. Oh, it's just 441 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: a statue. We're looking at the famous statue and apps too. 442 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: They made the statue very sexy. 443 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: That statue is hot. I mean he's got a bug 444 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: heead but. 445 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: But like the body. 446 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: Do you know what superhero, if you got a body 447 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: like the you can have a bug face. 448 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was something that looked like that. It didn't 449 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: look humanoid though, it just looked like bad dinosaur. 450 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, Well there's a classification of these creatures that 451 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: are they're not flying creatures. They're more they're more bigfoot 452 00:23:53,800 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: esque animally types. It's my favorite classification of and I've 453 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: talked about them. I talked about these years ago with Laganza. 454 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: Stranjia is called the Abominable swamp slobs, also known abbreviated 455 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: as the ass monster, Abominable swamp Slobs swap slobs. So 456 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: there's a couple of different kinds. So for example, there's 457 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: the Murphy's Burrow mud. 458 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: Monster, murphy Burrow's mud Monster, Okay. 459 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Murphy's Burrow mud Monster, also known as the big Muddy Monster. 460 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: Back to Q ninety eight point five so website, they 461 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: wrote back in June of nineteen seventy three, people from 462 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: all over Illinois were reporting sightings of a tall, white 463 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: haired creature caked in mud, running towards people. Police also 464 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: reported smelling a monster, which K ninees tracked to an 465 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: Illinois barn, but they refused to in. That's the Murphy's 466 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: Burrow mud monster. Just a big, hairy, white monster covered 467 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: in mud. There's also the tuttle Bottoms Monster. 468 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm so stuck on these cops being like, we're gonna 469 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: have these stocks searched in the dogs bag. We're scared 470 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: in the cops agreeing. 471 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're just like, okay, that's that. 472 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: I have a good one. Okay, So what was the 473 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: next one? 474 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: The Tuttle's Bottom Monster. Wait, tuttle Bottoms Monster. 475 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Totle Bottoms Monster. Okay, in total bottoms is a place? 476 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: It is? Is it in Bikini Bottom? That sounds not real? 477 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: The tuttle Bottoms Monster. This one has an entire Let's 478 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: just go to its Wikipedia because you know what, it 479 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: has a Wikipedia. I know it says. The tuttle Bottoms 480 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: monster legend is familiar to generations of Saline County residents. 481 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Former Harrisburg Police Chief Gary Crabtree told the Harrisburg Daily 482 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: Register that his department received approximately fifty reports over twenty 483 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: eight years of an unidentified beast in the area. Northwest 484 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: of Harrisburg, some reporting the creature with two legs and 485 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: some with four. He described it as having a long, 486 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: almost ant eater like snout ow. In nineteen sixty three, 487 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: the Harrisburg Daily Register reported what seemed to be the 488 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: first report of the creature, and they basically wrote that 489 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: at about eleven PM, a young man was armed with 490 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: a rifle and told Sheriff James Thompson that there was 491 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: a monster loose in the bottom. Knock it off. He 492 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: said it was eight feet long, four feet high, and 493 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: I had a nose like an ant eater. The young 494 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: man put his rifle in his car and left anyway, 495 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: it seems like they didn't find the bottom monster. He's 496 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: also been described as a hairy primate not scared of humans, 497 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: walks right up to them. 498 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: See these these It's not consistent because the ant eater 499 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: and a primate are not the same. They're not similar. 500 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: But it's like ant eater face primate body, I think. 501 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: But it could be on someone have all four someone 502 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: all two's. But it's eight feet long, four feet high, 503 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: so it's horizontally longer than it is taller. 504 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: Wow, you really you really took note of that? I'm 505 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: just sitting here. I'm still hung up on the monster 506 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: was loose in the bottom. 507 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: Ah, lose bottoms never a good situation. 508 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: It was rumored that some murders took place in the 509 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: bottoms at that time. 510 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: Like murders by people or murders by the monster. They 511 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: don't know. 512 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: It's also like a local makeout place. Oh so people 513 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: are like over there making See this is what it 514 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: always is. I'm telling you. It's always somebody doing something shady, 515 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: like okay for an example, like in this case, it's 516 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: like teenagers like getting a little bit a little bit 517 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: freaky dieky, like second base whatever, and then they're like 518 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: out too late, and then their parents are like, where 519 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: have you been? And why is their mud all over 520 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the back of your dress, Diane? And then she's like, 521 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: there was a muddy monster that attacked me. And then 522 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: before you know it, we're still talking about this and 523 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: it's got its own Wikipedia. 524 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, I told my mom about the money Monster. 525 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: You have to see it too. We can start this 526 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: rumor exactly. It was a movie that came out like 527 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: that on Amazon. I think it was called Ricky Staniky 528 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: because I auditioned for it. And they said no. But 529 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: it was about these three friends that like made up 530 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: this person because they actually like burned a house when 531 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: they were younger, and they were like Ricky Sanicky did it. 532 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: And then they made up this guy, and then a 533 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: real guy, John Cena, came to like pretend to be 534 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: him later and then he was crazy, so they had 535 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: to deal with that. That was like the premise of 536 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: the movie. But I feel like you're onto something. I 537 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: think people lie and then have to justify the lie 538 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: so they create new realities. 539 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we just covered this one where this house 540 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: was like haunted and they would always like hear noises 541 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: or whatever. And then the wife got busted having an 542 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: affair and it was like revealed, like no, that was 543 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: her like getting banged. 544 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: Out just in the house with well everyone's there. 545 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Yes and people. Everyone was like, oh my god. I 546 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: just like she was like getting crazy with it. 547 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: I wonder if there is a connection to like kissing 548 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: horny stuff with like the supernatural, because there's always like 549 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: somebody making out, somebody getting railed. I'm like, huh, why 550 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: is it so always to be like to justify this, 551 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: there's a monster, there's a ghost. Imagine having sex in 552 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: a house with a person and the excuse you're saying 553 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: is must be haunted. Like that's so far fetched, and 554 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: yet people were like, yeah, that's the only explanation. 555 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: Well, especially like that story was I don't even remember when, 556 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: at least one hundred years ago or something, and it's 557 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: like back then that just anything was like like someone 558 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: would have an orgasm. But they're like I got possessed, 559 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: like they like jump to all of that. 560 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: It's true they didn't have enough information. So like, yeah, 561 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: I guess if you don't really have like science, it's 562 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: like super accessible, you just kind of have to go. 563 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but nowadays we have it and people are still like. 564 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, this are just like vibes. What I feel is 565 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: what it is. 566 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll? 567 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes? Please? 568 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living. So I 569 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: go to eBay and I type in haunted doll and 570 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: there's hundreds, maybe thousands. 571 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Wow. I never would have thought, oh, maybe I've spent 572 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: time looking at these haunted dolls. 573 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: They all come with little biographies that the person's selling 574 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: it will write And I got one for you today 575 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: named Christopher, and he's going for twenty four dollars. Geeha, 576 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: show us Christopher, please you got a ros Okay. 577 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: Okay, come on, dreamgirl wig. 578 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, that is definitely a hair dow. 579 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: That's not that's not a haircut. 580 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: No, that was done. That is an dude that was 581 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: done in a salon and then hailed that way and 582 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: they said spray it down. Actually, to be honest, this 583 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: is kind. To be honest, this whole look, this outfit, 584 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: the hair, I love it. I'm like, wow, give us everything. 585 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this doll is very feminine looking, goes by Christopher 586 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: just looking at it. The hair is very All you 587 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: got to do is dream baby, We'll be there. 588 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: Turns around exactly with a very wide leged pant, you know, 589 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 3: sort of flares out, gives you a little hip action 590 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: and a plaid vast. 591 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the bio, it says on Ouiji board contact. 592 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: This spirit identifies as Christopher, a gay man who died 593 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties. He was in his early middle age. 594 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: My free writing session. I think they were just kind 595 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: of like doing a thing where they're just like writing psychically, 596 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. It's like a thing people do. It's like 597 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: Tyler Henry kind of does the Hollywood medium. My free 598 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: writing session revealed that he chose this doll due to 599 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the fact that the doll is such a healthy appearing young. 600 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: Man man it kind of looks like Liza Manette as 601 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Christopher had been very sick. 602 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: He was raised by an overbearing mother. He has a 603 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: huge amount of anger bottled up because of his mother. 604 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: He never got to live the life he wanted to live. 605 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh this is according to the website. It says he 606 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: was never able to have a romantic or physical relationship 607 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: with anyone. He secretly recognized that if he had been 608 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: able to have a relationship, he would have chosen someone 609 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: like a young, well mannered priest at his parish who 610 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: had healthy, good looks and quick wit. What the hell 611 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: is this the secret attraction that he had died with? 612 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: Christopher, I was gonna make a terrible joke. I was 613 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: like a priest. That's why he put the doll. As 614 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: a little boy. Mm hmmm. 615 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: He seeks only existence without pain and understanding of who 616 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: he is and his need for love. He comes with 617 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: a hat that reminds him of childhood and he hates it. 618 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh this was on the ground he implied that his 619 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: energy is negative and changes if he is forced to 620 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: wear it. Do not make him wear the hat. 621 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: They do not cover my blunt bang. Don't do it. 622 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: He said, I had rollers on my head all night 623 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: last night. You're not gonna put that hat over this dew. 624 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: He couldn't live in real life, so he's gonna let 625 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: the doll he couldn't, which is out in free. 626 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is a very prideful queer doll. Okay, Well 627 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: that was that. Can I plave some ghost voices? It's 628 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: time for EVP or ev please okay EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Yes, 629 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: this is like when ghost hunters capture a ghost speaking. 630 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: It's exactly that you already know. So I go to 631 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: YouTube and I find people's EVPs that they have posted 632 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: they believe they've captured a ghost saying something. I got 633 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: two of them for you today. They are from Space 634 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: Coast Paranormal Society. I don't know where these were taken, 635 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: But what is this ghost saying? And he guesses. 636 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: Sounds like I'm saying, cheers to Brittany. 637 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: That was Christopher the gay doll, cheers to Brittany. Well 638 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: that's not what they think. I'm going to give you 639 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: an abc D. It's one of these. Did they think 640 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: it was a year two thirsty B? Yes, I'm nervous. 641 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: C I have to hurt you? Or D Yes to 642 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: her queen like the ghost centers are coming through, yes 643 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: to her these other ones. Now, I'm gonna go with 644 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: A you're too thirsty. 645 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, play a warmer time. 646 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. Yeah, you're not gonna win anything. 647 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: They believe it C have to hurt you. 648 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: I think I could have hurt hurt, but it sounded 649 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: like more like, please don't hurt me. 650 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, let's listen again. I could totally hear please 651 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: don't hurt me. Yeah, but they think it's I have 652 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: to hurt you. 653 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 654 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: I got another one for you. This one is also 655 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: from the same place. What is this one saying? Okay, wait, 656 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: it's like a whisper. 657 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: Any guesses I heard too late for me and you? 658 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: Okay, these are good guesses. It's too late for me 659 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: and you. 660 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: You had your chance, and now she's gonna do a 661 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: murder suicide. 662 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: Do you think it was a Can I eat your food? B? 663 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: Can I join you? C? Can I clean your room? 664 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Or D? Can I lick you. Okay, they think it's 665 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: one of those. 666 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh can I join you? 667 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: It's totally can I join you? Now that I know that, 668 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: but it did sound like whatever you said, yeah, I 669 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: hear it now, all right. Last thing, I just want 670 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: to know some of your thoughts on things. Yes, what 671 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: do you think about aliens? Are they real? 672 00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: Yes? 673 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: Do you think they live on another planet? 674 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: Yes? But I also think they live here as well. 675 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: Where I think in the ocean, the valley very convinced. Yeah, 676 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: on Hollywood Boulevard. I think that the fact that there's 677 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 2: so much undiscovered water makes me think that there are 678 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: things there even they're like similar to space. There are 679 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 2: parts of space so like humans can't go because it's 680 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: not made for us. Parts of the ocean that humans 681 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: have not been able to go to. I'm assuming whatever's 682 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 2: down there is alien to us. 683 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was just watching this video that 684 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: was like they were talking about how like I think 685 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: it was Daytona Beach, Florida, And they're like, we keep 686 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: hearing that there's like these orb like things floating around 687 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: the mother shep. I'm like, what is so the aliens 688 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: are in Daytona Beach, Florida. 689 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they want to see some formula one. 690 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to do spring bread like a wet 691 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: t shirt contest or something orbs. I don't know the 692 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 1: mother shit. 693 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, why would they be on This. 694 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: Is just some TikTok I saw. I don't know that 695 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: it's rue. There was no video evidence. It was just 696 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: somebody in Daytona Beach being like, they're coming, They're in 697 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: the ocean. 698 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like there was those government hearings 699 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: where those men were like, yes, there are UFOs, there 700 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: are aliens. 701 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: Next question, and everybody. 702 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: Was pretty much like, okay, but can I afford food? 703 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: So I really just got swept under the road, right, 704 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: So we don't there's more people? Okay? 705 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: Great? 706 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: Truly? So yeah, I think that there's been enough information. 707 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of specifics, but I don't think 708 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: there's a question of whether aliens exist or not. It's 709 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: just like, what are they doing? How does it pertain 710 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: to us? 711 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: And are they hot? 712 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 2: Can they make me come? 713 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: What about? Do you believe in past lives? 714 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: I do? I just feel like I've had this dream 715 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 2: ones where this young man was talking to me who 716 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: was like, hey, I was you before, and I was like, 717 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: what is this? Yeah, I think that there's like energies 718 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 2: that are like left over. I don't know if it's 719 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: like an exact like rebirth, but I feel like there 720 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: are energies that have existed pre myself. 721 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: But did the guy have anything else to say? Uh? 722 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: He was just kind of like telling me like about 723 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: his life and kind of how that allowed me to 724 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: kind of like skip steps. It'd be like, oh, we 725 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: if we've already experienced this, so that's why you're like 726 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: naturally better at that, and then these areas like, uh, 727 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: he died very young, so he was like, you're going 728 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: to be a very smart, like young person because you 729 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 2: have like multiple lives that have experienced that as an adult. 730 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: So he's like that's me. Yeah, I'm the reason you're smart. 731 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: And then he was like, but as an adult, like 732 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 2: you kind of like on your own. I was like what. 733 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: So that was kind of the conversation interesting. He was 734 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: given like Tom Swayer vibes. Okay, and maybe I just 735 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: watched Tom and Huck and my dreams manifested that, but 736 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: he was very much giving kind of that vibe. 737 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: Hey, Dathan Taylor Thomas, Oh my god, okay, last one, 738 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of hmm, my favorite one. Are 739 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: you the type of person that believes in like, well 740 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: you already kind of said de ja vou, but like 741 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: synchronous cities or like do you go, oh, this was 742 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: meant to be it was a sign. Do you read 743 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: into things like that or you just go, oh, coincidence. 744 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 2: I do read into things, but not in like a wait, 745 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: maybe that's just me like how I justify existence. But 746 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: I feel like the things that are supposed to happen 747 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 2: are what's happening. That's why they're happening, And so I 748 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: think that helps me not just be like, oh, it's 749 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: like a sign. I'm like, I don't know if there's signs, 750 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: but there's like certain things where like you wanted to 751 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: go certain way but it goes that way, and me 752 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: thinking like huh, why did it go that way, and 753 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 2: then trying to and then finding within kind of the 754 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: universe of being like later on being like, oh, I 755 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: see if that would have happened, this thing never would 756 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: have happened, or if this thing happened, then that like 757 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 2: connecting the dots in that way. I feel like everything 758 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: happens for a reason, but not in like any real 759 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: time to where I'm like, oh, this is going to happen, 760 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 2: or like that's a I'm like, oh, I don't think 761 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm that aware. I don't think the universe is telling 762 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 2: me anything about the future in that way. It's been 763 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 2: like I'm giving you a sign so you can see. 764 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. 765 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: That's what I always think about deja vu. It's like 766 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: when you feel like you've already been there or whatever. 767 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: It's confirming this is where you're supposed to be, Like 768 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: you already got like a glimpse and now you're living 769 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: it out because this is where you're supposed to go. 770 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: Yes, like this is the aftermath of the foreshadow, like 771 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: you're in the foreshadow. 772 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's foreshadowing. 773 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,479 Speaker 2: I like that. 774 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: Well guess what that's it? 775 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, this was lovely, isn't it fun? 776 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: We just talk about weird and. 777 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 2: I don't get to talk to a lot of people 778 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: about this stuff. I don't think people would think I 779 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 2: am as weird as I am. 780 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're weird. 781 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like all this stuff. 782 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Where do people find you? What's going on? 783 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: You're in a movie right now? 784 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 2: TV show, yes, I'm in a TV show, and by 785 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: the time this comes out, I believe the finale would 786 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: have happened. So I hope you guys watched the studio 787 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 2: on Apple and hope you had a good time. 788 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I need to watch it. I haven't 789 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: seen it yet. 790 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: Wait, who else is in a it's Seth Rogan's show. 791 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: So Seth Rogen, Mike Baron Holtz, Katherine Han, Catherine O'Hara. 792 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Those are two very good Catherines, m H. 793 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: And they're very lovely. I like Catherine Han. 794 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: What else were you doing with Kicky Palmer. 795 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: One of them days. It's a movie that came out 796 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: earlier this year and it's on Netflix right now, So 797 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 2: go watch that. 798 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: I loveer same big fan. 799 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 3: Ah. 800 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being here. 801 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, and look out. 802 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: For those tuttle bottoms monsters. 803 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah they're on the loose. 804 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Dwayne Perkins. What a fun time. 805 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh I love you all, both living and dead. But 806 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt 807 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: me came by. 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