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<v Speaker 1>Doug Gottlievin for Dan Dannett's Dan Patrick's Show. We'll try

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<v Speaker 1>not to ruin instead try to help your morning as

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're in your morning commute, maybe you're working, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in Dan Buyer alongside, of course, you got Jay

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<v Speaker 1>stew John Ramos. This is my crew, Rick Buker from

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports. We'll give us his thoughts on whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call the All Star Game, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for a kind of the stretch run. As

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<v Speaker 1>NBA teams are only now seeming like they're focused on

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<v Speaker 1>getting it together for the postseason. What are the new

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<v Speaker 1>look Lakers is going to look like? When le Bron

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<v Speaker 1>plays what do you say the twenty three most important

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<v Speaker 1>the way that tire buying should be. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was some discussion from All Star Weekend about load management.

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<v Speaker 1>Load management. Kyrie Irving gave a lot of thoughtful answers

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<v Speaker 1>when he's asked questions. Here was his answer in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to load management. I don't know who created the time

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<v Speaker 1>load management or you know, guys sitting out games, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know this narrative that continues to play on about

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<v Speaker 1>star players or guys not being available. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who started the narrative, but it's completely run amuck. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the humanized some of us in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just the way we prepare ourselves day to day. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a twenty four seven job. We have cameras on

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<v Speaker 1>us all the time. Okay, I'm not really so because

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<v Speaker 1>there's camera Again, I'm trying to piece together what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dehumanizing you. He loves the dehumanizing. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big fallback on it that anytime there's criticism of

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<v Speaker 1>him or people in the NBA, we're dehumanizing it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is that is that objectifying? Are you're dehumanizing something?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you objectifying? You're making them more of an object

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<v Speaker 1>than an actual living being? That that that that's honestly

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<v Speaker 1>that it's the most millennial word word ever. Actually, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more human than I'm really tired. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work, but I have to go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really tired, but I don't want to go to work,

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<v Speaker 1>but I gotta go because other people are depending upon me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's the old Can you imagine if the

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<v Speaker 1>school bus drivers like, I mean, you know, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to go take your kids to school, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>I got a load manage because that way I can

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<v Speaker 1>perform my best when dropping your kids off at school. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the way it works. I mean there are

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<v Speaker 1>teachers we wish would have had a day off because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just you know, you run on a teacher that's

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<v Speaker 1>had a bad weekend and had a bad night whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're a little little punch you with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it maybe to my job, which I'm well, I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 1>saying I have the cakes cake job of old time.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch sports and talk about sports, and interview other

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<v Speaker 1>people about sports, and talk about live sporting events as

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<v Speaker 1>they happen. Don't get any better. But I also do

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<v Speaker 1>I do a lot in a given day. Do the show,

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<v Speaker 1>do a podcast, do a basketball show on stadium. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go and do games like you know, I just guys today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not people do that in their industry at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>not early on, when they're just holding on collecting a check.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Adam Silver, Okay, here's some quotes. I hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on the issue load management as to whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not players are playing because playing enough, because there

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<v Speaker 1>is a real medical and scientific data about what's appropriate. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, the premise of the question as to whether

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<v Speaker 1>players are playing enough suggests that they should be playing more.

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<v Speaker 1>That in essence, there should be a notion just to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and play. Having been in the league

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, having spent a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>with our great legends, I don't think that's necessarily the

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<v Speaker 1>case he's doing. These aren't the droids you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the world that we used to have where it was

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<v Speaker 1>just get out there and play through injuries, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's appropriate clearly. I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, they're human beings many of you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to and know well who are playing through enormous pain,

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<v Speaker 1>who played through all kinds of aches and pains on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis the suggestion I think that these men,

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<v Speaker 1>in the case the NBA should somehow get out there,

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<v Speaker 1>get out there more for its own sake. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>buy into what so because their bodies hurt from playing basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't play basketball. The expression I always use his

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<v Speaker 1>basketball players to play basketball, Like what else are you

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<v Speaker 1>get to do? So would you get paid to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I had this discussion a friend of mine is I've

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<v Speaker 1>become Actually one of the ways I became friends with

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<v Speaker 1>him was through dan Is Darius Rucker and see all

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of like there was a time in his

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<v Speaker 1>life when he's like, man, I only want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I can only play so many times. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you have bills, if you have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to play at these shows, people want

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<v Speaker 1>to see. People still want to hear the Hootie songs.

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<v Speaker 1>They just dot whether you feel like or you don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it. That's what a job is like. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually more offended when I read it from Adams when

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<v Speaker 1>I hear it that I see it from Adam Silver

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<v Speaker 1>than I am from Kyrie Irving, especially when this is

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards. Who what is Anthony Edwards twenty two? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards unload banishment. If there's anything I could change

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<v Speaker 1>about the league to make it better, probably just all

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<v Speaker 1>the guys sit and resting. That's the only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't like. Um just play, man, if you, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you you got to play. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like all the sitting, missing games and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like these people. These people might have enough money to

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<v Speaker 1>come to one game, you know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>that might be the game that come to and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting out, you know what I'm saying. So I

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<v Speaker 1>take pride in trying to play every game because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It might be one fan that has never

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<v Speaker 1>seen me play and I'm trying to play, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't That's the only thing I don't like, guys just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out. Let me just speak for all of America

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<v Speaker 1>and say thank you Anthony Edwards. Adam silver. What world

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<v Speaker 1>do you live in? Like Bro, you live in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City, You have a great job that you work

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to get. I get all of that, But

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the real world is do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea how expensive it is to go to your games?

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<v Speaker 1>You have any clue what that does to your fan?

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<v Speaker 1>And you are telling your fans that you value a

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<v Speaker 1>guy getting paid an exorbitant amount of money to not

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<v Speaker 1>play because he doesn't feel perfect like sports science. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the reality of sports science. It has a value. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely has a value. But I'll draw this comparison. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the comp is with head injuries. Right, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>same protocols for head injuries in basketball that we do

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<v Speaker 1>in football. Here's the problem with it. Tell me the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player who's suffering from dementia because of repeated head trauma,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't actually exist. And yeah, there are some NBA

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<v Speaker 1>players who like you see him try and run. I

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<v Speaker 1>played that celebrity game like thirteen years ago, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget Rick Buker, who's going to join us.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in my head the whole week. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, Dude, I talked to Tim Hardaway he knows

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<v Speaker 1>who you are. He's coming for you. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>watched him. I watch him run up and down the

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<v Speaker 1>court one time, and I was like, oh, Tim Hardaway's

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<v Speaker 1>he's an old man. Now he's out of shape. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. I was completely freaked out by it. I

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<v Speaker 1>get that playing eighty two games and the playoffs for

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<v Speaker 1>ten or fifteen years, that can that can do some

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<v Speaker 1>damage to your knees, to your hips or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is that football players, those guys they're walking around,

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<v Speaker 1>they're maligned, They're mangled, They're a mangled mess. There aren't

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<v Speaker 1>former NBA players who are worse off because of their

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<v Speaker 1>time exercising every day, playing eighty two nights and sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in ice buckets. Like we take medical science at its word.

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<v Speaker 1>You spraying your ankle, you're out for four weeks, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how it works with. These guys are superhuman

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<v Speaker 1>and yet maybe their performance isn't as good. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we what are we doing? You have a job,

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<v Speaker 1>you signed up to do the job. You can't shorten

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<v Speaker 1>the season because the idea of shortening the season, you're again,

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<v Speaker 1>you're forgetting what it does to everybody else. Those arenas

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<v Speaker 1>have leases. Those leases have forty one nights plus preseason

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<v Speaker 1>games of the potential for postseason. It's not just the arenas,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all of the restaurants, all of the bars, all

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<v Speaker 1>the tax breaks that were given in order to build

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<v Speaker 1>the brand new arenas, all the people that work in

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<v Speaker 1>those arenas. You're gonna take ten games away from them?

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<v Speaker 1>Are five games away from them? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>give them that money? And oh yeah, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think NBA players are going to give back

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<v Speaker 1>any of the money that they get guaranteed based upon

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<v Speaker 1>in an eighty two game schedule. You have a smoldering

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<v Speaker 1>dumpster fire of a mess on your hands, where even

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<v Speaker 1>one of your young stars sits there and goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish guys would play. I want. I came to

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA to play basketball against the best, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who's playing. And even he has the general

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<v Speaker 1>sense of, hey, you know, there's lots of nights when

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<v Speaker 1>we go out there to play and the best player

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<v Speaker 1>on our team or the other team might not be

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<v Speaker 1>playing because he doesn't feel perfect. What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I expect Kyrie? Kyrie, that's on brand. You're dehumanizing. But

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver to go, Kyrie, you know I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>human beings. You're saying, where do you know we're not

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<v Speaker 1>the most human thing you can say, Adam Silver is Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that you're sore, that you're tired, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to have some perspective in that. You

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<v Speaker 1>fly in private jets, you stay in the best hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>you be out the best medical treatment. We're not at

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to play this, we do not

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<v Speaker 1>want hostages. But if you want to play, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to try and play eighty two Knights, right, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to play, got to play any two Knights. Karl Malone

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<v Speaker 1>was up there was it ten straight years? He played

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<v Speaker 1>every game and I'm not a Karl Malone fan and

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<v Speaker 1>the like there's I said this before the show to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's two. There isn't a human being alive that ever

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<v Speaker 1>patterned their game or Karl Malone And there were no

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<v Speaker 1>moves there's like now, his game was kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He ran the lane and John Stockton found him. He

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<v Speaker 1>developed a really good keyhole jump shot. He's a good

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<v Speaker 1>solid post player. But like a Keem has the dream shake,

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem has the skyhook, nobody emulates or even names any

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<v Speaker 1>of the moves of Karl Malone. Carl Malone just played hard,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it, and he played every night. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have Adam Silver trying to convince us this isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. Medical science backs it up. You are dehumanizing him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not, or they're human beings. But the whole, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea go ahead, go ahead's gonna say. Isn't Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Silver part of the problem because when we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we started, we start hearing the segment and Kyrie's like,

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<v Speaker 1>who came up with load management? The NBA did because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to put rest on the injury report, remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was there was you know, the people don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear that guys were resting, so they came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the term of load management, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could have figured out better terms. But

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<v Speaker 1>like that's so so to sit there and even make

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<v Speaker 1>it seem like you're out on your own. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA is catering at least that to you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm dumbfounded by the messaging from the NBA, the

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<v Speaker 1>disconnect in the NBA from what the fans and people

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<v Speaker 1>in sports actually believe that's the big thing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are we are we on the same planet here? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we not understand this is a problem? It to me

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<v Speaker 1>is you know it really what it started with the

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<v Speaker 1>Spurs right when Papovitch would rest guys like Duncan. It

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't known, you know, it wasn't throughout the league,

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<v Speaker 1>but they would do it at times. Duncan's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play at night. You're like, oh, okay with the resting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean then it took it took another step when

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<v Speaker 1>guys started missing that Saturday night ABC game when you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have you know, just take for his Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>and Tim Duncan and Kwhi Leonard aren't playing and Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry and Clay Thompson aren't playing, you know, or you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever the matchup is, and all of us have

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<v Speaker 1>been saying, well, now, what about the advertisers, And we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the fans before, but now it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can do it, then then we can do

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<v Speaker 1>it here and then we'll just blame it on the

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<v Speaker 1>back to backs and then we'll just such a bad business.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody runs a business this way. You don't run a

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<v Speaker 1>bit like this is the customer is always right? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing in any customer service business, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that's you. You're an entertainment business. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the customers. Like how many times can you piss off

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<v Speaker 1>the customers before they go like you, No, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it. I'm just not gonna I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Not not gonna do it. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, what kids see what adults see in the pros,

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<v Speaker 1>they emulate at a lower level. You do see this

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<v Speaker 1>in some in high school games. Lebronze kid, they lost again, over,

0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they lost again last last Friday night. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>games at the the end of the season where suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, he's got a knee injury, Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? High school basketball? He's not hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>He just played load managing. Excuse me, what what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? I mean, has any of you ramos have

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<v Speaker 1>you been to a Laker game? When the last time

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Laker game? Uh gee's twenty fourteen? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>did you get the tickets or did you pay for

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<v Speaker 1>the tickets? Um? I paid for him. I took Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, actually was earlier than that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was like ten, so it was a while ago. Yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>she was ten. Then I'm trying to think of how

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<v Speaker 1>old she was. She was young, so probably wasn't twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>She's born twenty five and he goes like twenty she

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<v Speaker 1>was like seven years old. Was like, what was that

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven? How much night cost you? A geez? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was just me her and Suzanne, my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't remember, but we sat up in the rafters.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was pretty high in the extent. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>three definitely three to twenty dollars, three hundred twenty eight dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to your online banking and scroll to twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>if you can. Okay, So look, so I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example. The Lakers play the Warriors upcoming, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>play the Warriors. So parking and you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>like StubHub and you can get a parking lot sea. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's nineteen dollars. Most of them are thirty eight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But the tickets in section three thirty two, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>at it's not it's not in the court. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>in that kind of angle sort of up in the

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<v Speaker 1>third deck. Yeah, you can get two unrestricted view good.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see the whole court eighty bucks a pop,

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<v Speaker 1>so on a pay forty bucks for parking, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty for two tickets to sit away the hell

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<v Speaker 1>up high plus again. And we know you either go

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<v Speaker 1>out to dinner or you get some food while you're there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in it for two to fifty plus. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>fight traffic. That's the cheapest possible ticket for the Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 1>and the Lakers, right, and the worst seat in the

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<v Speaker 1>house or one of the worst seats in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And you show up and your kids are excited. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you want to bring your kids? Okay, that's another two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five hundred bucks. Like pick pickstead star player not

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<v Speaker 1>playing tonight. Lebron's not playing night Lebron. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>give him a bit of a pass, you like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing this a long time. But Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. I just it's an awful way to run

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<v Speaker 1>a business. They have understudies on Broadway, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>offer refunds if the understudy is performing. You know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if how many nights off the league guys to

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton take off I don't know. I just the the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that it's not that big of an issue. People

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.639
<v Speaker 1>are making it a bigger issue, and you go with

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<v Speaker 1>the sports science and we're dehumanizing people like no, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we under I actually think every human being who's ever

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<v Speaker 1>played any sort of athletics or works totally gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not dehumanizing. It actually dehumanizes us. It's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make us feel bad. That's what it's doing, Trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make us feel like we're some sort of neanderthal. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to play. We're the dad on the sideline that's

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<v Speaker 1>forcing a kid to play a sport that he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to play. Like that in it, dude, we're

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<v Speaker 1>paying customers. You have the best in the world. There's

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty days in the year we're asking

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<v Speaker 1>to play eighty two nights. They get treated like absolute kings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basketball. It's aerobic exercise with some physicality blended in.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah, by the way, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing to do if you're a basketball player

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a cold, you want to the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do is play basketball, opens up your capillaries.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel great. You know the best thing to do

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:10.360
<v Speaker 1>when like, the answer to every single problem in your

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for your body is generally exercise, and yet we're they're

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.880
<v Speaker 1>telling don't exercise because I've talked to former players they

0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 1>have eggs and pains and do any of those Foreiger

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 1>players like man I wish I only played sixty games. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Buke you know it's it's been since Magic hit his

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<v Speaker 1>step back jumpshot over. I guess they're friends again. But

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:36.680
<v Speaker 1>former best friend Isaiah Thomas. I think that was in Orlando. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>think back to our limit ninety three one. Sure had

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<v Speaker 1>to be ninety three because Magic retired. Uh in the

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<v Speaker 1>what was it the fall of ninety one, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>for ninety two, so he had to be ninety had

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<v Speaker 1>to be ninety three three. Um. Anyway, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I watched the NBA All Star Game live,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then it's gotten worse. I don't know for

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<v Speaker 1>at a breaking point, but I'm just the clips you

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<v Speaker 1>watched in the highlight just just bad. Ye have Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Malone saying it's the worst basketball game I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Jalen Brown saying that's not basketball. Yep. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know me, I think that I think

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball when you actually go watch it in anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better than it's ever been. Players are better. The

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<v Speaker 1>game is really good to watch, really fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does the league a disservice. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>going to be done to try and fix that mess? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they have, they've tried, and it hasn't It has had

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<v Speaker 1>its moment over the last what thirty years, thirty years

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that you watched. It's the devices that they've used to

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<v Speaker 1>make it or to infuse more competition into it have worked,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've only worked for a time. And obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>latest where it's quarter by quarter, that that put a

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<v Speaker 1>little juice back into it. But now the players really

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<v Speaker 1>don't they don't care, and I believe that it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of a larger problem where winning every game no longer matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just confused itself at the All Star game

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the least meaningful game in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>produces things for players. Yes, winning All Star MVP and

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<v Speaker 1>you see guys, certain guys will go for it, but

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of defending or collectively winning the game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>now that they're being picked by captains, you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>action has a reaction. So now it's not East versus West.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have the conference rival re or reputation or

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<v Speaker 1>pride on the line. Uh, now you're playing for a

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<v Speaker 1>particular player. They're all individuals, uh, sort of playing for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and so all of that has been lost and

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. I mean, I've often said it

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<v Speaker 1>and the NFL has gone to this, which is, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just make it a weekend of competition of individual skills

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<v Speaker 1>the game. It's because the three point contest, the dunk contest,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you mc McClune, those still have some some value.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm more interested in those than than I am,

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<v Speaker 1>but even the dunk contest, Like I love the mc

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<v Speaker 1>McClung story. Yeah, you can't get any NBA star to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the dunk contest. Yeah, well, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>that is a problem. That is a problem too. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten to this point where player we are rewarding

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<v Speaker 1>players regardless of whether they win or not. We're correct

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<v Speaker 1>content we're doing. We're giving they have guaranteed contracts, the

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteem all right, so which which gives It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteez though, like we're making them into stars. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about guys being superstars who had whenever come close

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<v Speaker 1>to winning a championship. And so it's and it's human nature,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I don't have to win to be considered

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<v Speaker 1>a champion, then why would I have to Why should

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<v Speaker 1>I am risk being embarrassed in the Dunk contest or

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<v Speaker 1>not winning the Dunk Contest When everybody thinks I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>great in game dunker. Oh, why should I compete in it?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to laugh with Somebody asked Lebron James, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of mc mcluch' winning the dunk contest?

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<v Speaker 1>That was whatever? Whatever he said, I'm like, why are

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<v Speaker 1>we Lebron? He's never competed in the dunk contest. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest with you. He's the problem. He's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the problem. Okay, it has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing the Skip Bayliss Clutch Geen crap thing, Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your league and it's devolved, and you take the

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<v Speaker 1>dunk contest. And again, when we were kids, Jordan and

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<v Speaker 1>Dominique Wilkins and Clyde Drexler, who were the best scorers

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and there was a conversation there for

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<v Speaker 1>a while that Clyde might be creeping up on Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, right, and Dominique Wilkins do we pay him?

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<v Speaker 1>And they were in the dunk contest? Yeah, and Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>it's a write of passage and Lebron never did it,

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<v Speaker 1>never did it. Yeah. But but but so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to put all that on him. I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>that on us because we accepted it and still put

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<v Speaker 1>him in that pantheon without him taking the normal course

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<v Speaker 1>of a player of a superstar. We've made him into

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<v Speaker 1>a superstar and put him at the very top of

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<v Speaker 1>the league, and yet he bypassed a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>rights of passage for a superstar player. And I found

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting in yesterday's game because I did watch with

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<v Speaker 1>one eye closed because it was it was challenging, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron was actually trying to play a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>defense in terms of some rundown blocks, like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, straight up or whatever, but and nobody was

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<v Speaker 1>following him on like he made a couple efforts, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, huh, that's interesting too. So I look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to sound like I'm I'm bagging on

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<v Speaker 1>on Lebron, and that's that's not my intention. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that he's the cause, but I think in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways he's the result of how we had have changed

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamics of what it is to be a true

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>superstar player in the league. Okay, Kyrie Irving said that

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>you know that anybody I'm kind of paraphrasing here that

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people who that don't like load management or guys sitting out,

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you're dehumanizing players. Yeah right, he loves that dehumanizing. But

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver also said like, hey, they're human beings here.

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>He's doing the dehumanizing thing when talking about load management.

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>There's lots of science behind it. But what world are

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys living in that they don't realize that this

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is an issue that the paying customer doesn't know who's

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be playing on a given night. Yeah, well,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought that Adam's comments at the very end are

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line, which is ticket sales are up, renewal

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>sales are up. So how much do they really really care?

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>How much is it affecting the bottom line. When it

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>affects the bottom line, I can assure you that there

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>will be changes made. And what it This is such

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a complicated thing, and I've gone back and forth. My

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>initial position was, well, of course, like well, how is

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 1>it that we have load management, we have guys resting

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>just to rest, and yet we have just as many

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>injuries as we've had, Like whatever we're doing is not working,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>and so why is that we have all this this

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>science and this sports medicine knowledge and these improved conditions

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and training and all of that, and it's not changing

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line in terms of the number of injuries.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So what is what is it that we're not doing?

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>And I talked to a number of veteran players and

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like, the game is more physically challenge athletically challenging

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in terms of it's faster, there's more you're you're changing

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>direction more often. It's more of that, And and I

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>believe that there's also the ball and the demand on

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the star players is greater than ever. The usage rate

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of the players is greater than ever. Teams don't score

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>utilizing team basketball as much. It's more direct line be

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>going over the top of you, etc. Than we've ever seen.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're making more demand that way. And so

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, you know what, there's some legitimacy

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to this. There's a reason you need to incorporate it.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>But then I had a conversation with a with a player,

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>former champion, now an executive in the league. And I've

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>been hearing this complaint from executives forever. They will never

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>put their name on the record because it's a sure

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>way of getting fired and never being being given it

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a job again, and they feel like the medical aspects

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>because they've high hired all of these uh these these

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>medical experts and trainers, etc. It's crazy. Yeah, they have

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>undue influence. But the player, the former champion and now

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>executive that the problem is that nobody practices, and when

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they do practice, they don't scrimmage. So how can you

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>go from individual workout stuff and no practices and now

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you're playing games and as you know, Doug, like the

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>movements in a game, the demands on your body in

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a game, there's there's there's almost no way to replicate

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that other than playing the game. And the real difficulty

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>is now. So let's say that tomorrow they all wake

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>up and say, you know what, we need to get

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>back to scrimmaging five on five. You're going to have

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in the short term more injuries as a result of that,

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>because the entire league's not used to doing that. But

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>it's also like they have to go through that to

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>get back to where guys are going to be conditioned

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to play more games. And then and then there's just

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the difference between the guys who really need that to

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to play and the team's telling them, you know,

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like the guys I talked to. Mike Conley was like,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>or Kavan Looney, it was like, no, I gotta fight.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I gotta fight. The medical staff, they're like, you should

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>take a game off. It's when I'm good. I'm good.

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>So you have guys being encouraged take time off, and

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>then you're going to have guys who are, Okay, I'm

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>still getting paid. They say I should take a game

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>off if I'm feel a little bit sore. Why why

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>do I want to go out and play if I

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have to? And we could say that about the

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>All Star Game. I mean, it's all the same thing. Yes,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>even encouraged players by rewarding them even when they don't

0:31:55.600 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>play or they don't win. Lebron said the last twenty

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>three games are the most important twenty three games of

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>his career. Yeah, that's a bit of an overstatement. Well,

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess I believe that he believes that. But I'm

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>going to go back to the game that he set

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the record in. He set the record in the third quarter.

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>He played eight minutes in the fourth quarter straight. There

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>were thirty seven seconds left when he sat down because

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>of his ankle. It was a two possession game with

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven seconds left. That was a very very important

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>game for the Lakers and their attempts to get to

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, to the play in. You couldn't give me

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven seconds, you could I could score thirty eight. Well,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>then he took the next two off, and then and

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>then took the next two games off. So um, and

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I you know, for the last two years, like he

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>stayed in games that um that we're already decided. And

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>because he was, he was trying to win the scoring record,

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the scoring title last year, like he's done things he's

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>never done before in the last couple of years, as

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>far as as trying to score instead of how do

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I best utilize the energy that I have at age

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven thirty eight to win? So I know the

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>narrative that he wants us to believe, and I'm this

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is difficult because I do think that titles and championships

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>do mean something to Lebron without question, but his actions

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>don't fit with the narrative that he's trying to sell us,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just I will I can't. You got to

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>explain the Oklahoma City games to me before I'm going

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 1>to buy in that. Yeah, I think he want Look,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I think now that they made all those moves, I

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>think he does want to get to the playoffs. It's

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>on him to get him to the playoffs. They gave him.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>They changed the team for the fourth time. So yeah,

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that that responsibilities on him and I'd love to see

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>him do it. I'd love to see him in the playoffs.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see the Lakers in the playoffs. I

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>want to see that. But when he starts to tell

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>us this is what I'm all about, I'm like, I

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>want to believe that, but you've given me a ton

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of evidence that that's not always the case. Yeah, it's

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it's the juxpicion of last year when he opened out

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of returning to Cleveland when they're in the playoff,

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>when they're in a playoff hunt at the All Star Game, right,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just and that went over like a leat balloon. Honestly,

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I'm disappointed we didn't get Kyrie Irving, Like,

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>now you have to change out the team. You just

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>looked at your you look at your walker room and win. Yeah,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what these guys an't doing enough for me? Correct? Correct? Correct?

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought We had a championship for a while, but

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>now I'm gonna do the best I can with what

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>we got. We gotta go. I appreciate it, buddy, you

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.279
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<v Speaker 1>Doug Once, who's buyout is finalized with Utah Jazz. Guard

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook is expected to sign a deal with the

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>La Clippers. That's according to ESPN. Well, that's fascinating, right,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't actually have to move at all, and

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>now he is in the same building and the Clippers,

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>who are searching for a point guard, had John Wall,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had Reggie Jackson, and now they have Russell Westbrook, who

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe Dave McManaman said was a was a a vampire,

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's called a vampire sucking the blood from the

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Lakers locker room. I mean, there is no more perfect

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Clippers story than Russell Westbrook playing for the Clippers, maybe

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:41.919
<v Speaker 1>against the Lakers in the plaffs that would be remarkable. Remarkable. Yeah,

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Russell Westbrook isn't a point guard. But okay,

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know how that makes them what

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it does to make them a championship caliber team. No,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>he's not a great shooter, and he's not a great

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a good defender, and you know, he's a guy who's

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>been about Russell and been in Russell's head. Now, can

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we give him the benefit of the doubt over the

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>next what is it two months? Yeah, like Kyrie Ivering's

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be perfect next DeAngelo Russell is gonna be perfect

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>for the Lakers for the next couple of months. The

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>question is afterwards for the Clippers, this is just a

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>two month trial balloon, right, But did they actually get

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>better over this trade deadline and now acquisition. I don't.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe the answer is yes. But they do

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>have Kawai and they have I think, you know, the

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>two best coaches are Kerr and lou They have one

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of the best coaches, if now the best coach in

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the NBA. They got a really really good roster when healthy,

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but they're the Clippers. Let's get to a game. Um,

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>what's what's what's what's what's this game? Now we have done? Yeah, yeah,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you've taken a one on lead on John Ramos in

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>this best of three. This game is called the Dwight

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff again on this President's Day. You have to decipher

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>if the tidbits that we give you last hour was

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Warren g or Warren G. Harding this one Dwight Eisenhower

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 1>or Dwight Gooden. So I'll give you and John Ramos

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>facts you have to determine was this for the uh

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>former Mets pitcher or was this for the thirty fourth

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>president of the United States? All right, John, you are

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>up first? Are you ready? Yes? All right? Nicknamed Doc?

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Was it uh Dwight Eisenhower or Dwight Gooden? That would

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 1>be uh ike, was by the way, Dwight Eisenhower. That'd

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>be a Dwight Gooden? That is correct? That is that

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is the nickname for Dwight Gooden. John Ramos off and running,

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, Doug, who had a like this is this

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>is like what was the female basketball player the basket

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>player for Yukon when she heard her knee So to

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>become like, no, the previous one like to become the

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>all time scoring leader. She won bucket, so they like

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>threw up the jump and she's standing by the basket. Yes,

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and she made the layup. That's what you just did

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to dramas. We're crunched on time, so we have to

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>get a winner here sooner rather than later. Doug who

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>had a tree named after him, Dwight D. Eisenhower or

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Dwight Gooden, Dwight D. Eisenhower, That is correct, no longer

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>than it was a seventeenth hole of Augusta National was

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>not a sequoia. But good guess you got the half

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>point for that one to one. Just kidding. John who

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted a telephone thrown at his head by a girlfriend.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Was it Dwight Eisenhower or was it Dwight Gooden. I

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think Maine would ever throw into Dwight Eishow, so

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll say Dwight Gooden. That is That is correct. Presidency

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the United States. By the way, if you can hear

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the music, all right, Doug two one. John Leeds at

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.240
<v Speaker 1>one time smoked three to four packs of cigarettes a day.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that Dwight Eisenhower or Dwight Gooden. Who what the

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>answer is? Push, I'm gonna go. Dwight Gooden. No iked

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.399
<v Speaker 1>like smokes apparently, Yes, he was a big smoker back

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>in the day. John Ramos, you get this right? You

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>win Game two In Dwight stuff. A song was named

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>after him by a band called the Mountain Goats. I'll

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:29.280
<v Speaker 1>say Dwight Eisenhower. That is Dwight Gooden received Doug received

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>an honorary degree from Hofstraw. Dwight Gooden. No, that was Eisenhower.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>His nephew was a major league baseball player. John Ramos,

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that's Gary Scheffield, right, Doc Gooden, That is correct, John Ramos,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>wins the Dwight Gooden game. I missed the Mets championship

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>parade because he was at a drug dealer's house. Yeah,

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that was not Dwight Eisenhower. Just clarify that was not

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Dwight Eisenhower. Yeah, well that was not good that one.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>That one I definitely would have missed as well. I

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>would have missed that one as well. Coming up next

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Dan Patrick's Show Live from the tirect dot

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Com Studios, All we'll give them that news that Russell

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Westbrook is a Clipper is a Clipper. Why that's perfect

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