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Speaker 1: always wants to know who wins the draft. I've had
Speaker 1: the same formula as long as I can remember, and
Speaker 1: I usually do it on the Monday after the draft.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to project how great your fourth, fifth, sixth,
Speaker 1: and seventh round picks are, but I will judge your
Speaker 1: off season based on your free agent signings and your
Speaker 1: first two or three picks, where I get more certainty.
Speaker 1: I think the Chicago Bears are a completely different football team.
Speaker 1: With Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Gerald Everett, Caleb Williams, and Romadnze.
Speaker 1: That's a completely different offense. So if you're asking me
Speaker 1: who won the offseason in terms of personnel, might take
Speaker 1: his Chicago won't even look the same. I thought Green
Speaker 1: Bay got better, but I don't think Chicago will even
Speaker 1: look the same. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I listen, it's hard not to like Chicago.
Speaker 2: I mean what they've done in the last twelve months.
Speaker 2: I think that trade that Ryan Poles made It's got
Speaker 2: to go down as one of the great trades of
Speaker 2: all time. I mean it really does. Would like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and to get rid of basically they traded all that
Speaker 2: for Bryce Young that if you could do a redo,
Speaker 2: they would laugh in your face and Carolina would would
Speaker 2: throw in picks to swap it back. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the hype on Caleb, which is the nature of
Speaker 2: this beast, the same thing happened to Trevor Lawrence. He
Speaker 2: does not need to be immediately a superstar. He just
Speaker 2: needs to be solid, right, and they should be good
Speaker 2: because last year they could have been a playoff team
Speaker 2: if their quarterback could have just functioned from the pocket,
Speaker 2: couldn't function from the Now you add Keenan Allen and
Speaker 2: Romadon say, you know the best part about romadonsay, he
Speaker 2: doesn't have to do that much like he was the
Speaker 2: lead dogg at Washington which had about fifteen guys draft
Speaker 2: that it felt like and he was a fantastic player,
Speaker 2: but he gets to ease in. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: people like Marvin Harrison, we talked about this last on Thursday,
Speaker 2: has no choice anything less than eighty ninety catches. They're
Speaker 2: not getting enough out of them given what in his group.
Speaker 2: So Rome, if he just has forty five to fifty catches,
Speaker 2: maybe six touchdowns, you're awesome. Even though it's the ninth pick.
Speaker 2: You'd like a little more. But given this team this year,
Speaker 2: Keenan probably be only there one year. So next year
Speaker 2: he takes a bigger jump. But they're not as dependent
Speaker 2: on their young wide receiver as a lot of teams
Speaker 2: are when they draft a guy high.
Speaker 1: They're also going to have a fourth place schedule, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it helps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the division's hard.
Speaker 2: The division's hard. It might be the best division in football.
Speaker 1: I think offensively, I've said this. I think last time
Speaker 1: we were on you could make a Pro Bowl offense
Speaker 1: out of that division that could competes with the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just stars everywhere. And I also thought,
Speaker 1: I'll say this about the NFC and Earth. I thought
Speaker 1: Green Bay, if you count Josh Jacobs Xavier McKinney in
Speaker 1: free agency, upgrade it back really good safety along with Morgan,
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan the tackle from Arizona, Edrian Cooper the linebacker,
Speaker 1: and m who I heard the Rams like Bullard the
Speaker 1: safety from Georgia, like that's five really good players, So
Speaker 1: I green Bay. You know, it's interesting. If you told
Speaker 1: me two teams that draft well in the last decade,
Speaker 1: I would actually say Green Bay in Tampa. But they're
Speaker 1: so divergent in terms of success because one gets the
Speaker 1: quarterback right and one hasn't. I always feel with Jason
Speaker 1: lt if you go look at Tampa's first four picks,
Speaker 1: I loved him. I think he's one of the best
Speaker 1: drafters in the league. They can't get quarterback right. The
Speaker 1: difference is and by the way, classic Michael Pratt who
Speaker 1: fell to the seventh, Green Bay gets him. He won't
Speaker 1: see the field for three years, and you look, he's
Speaker 1: a big kid, six three, two twenty, not a huge jar.
Speaker 1: But you look up in three years and be like,
Speaker 1: what's a functional starter in the NFL. But that division,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting about Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Minnesota maybe the most talented potential fourth place team that
Speaker 1: I can remember. I was doing this over the course
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I was writing down everybody's ten best
Speaker 1: players in that division. There is not much that separates
Speaker 1: Detroit Minnesota, like it's inches not if Darnald plays well,
Speaker 1: you could see Minnesota to the last weekend competing.
Speaker 2: Well, isn't it a good example? Used Jason Light they
Speaker 2: had no quarterback, they insert Brady at forty two years
Speaker 2: old and just start dominating. Right. So if they would
Speaker 2: have had the same roster, you would have put Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: the same thing would have happened. Look at last year,
Speaker 2: Baker had what seventy five percent of the season, was
Speaker 2: pretty solid, and they were a playoff team and they
Speaker 2: kicked the Eagles ass and they were right there in
Speaker 2: the second playoff game with the Lions. So the quarterback position,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure we'll talk about, is so important. But
Speaker 2: I'm with you, like I think Green Bay is going
Speaker 2: to be very, very dependent on this. Jeff Haffley, the
Speaker 2: guy that they hired from Boston College who was very
Speaker 2: well thought of. Kyle Shanahan really liked them the Ohio
Speaker 2: State when Ryan Day first got the job, made him
Speaker 2: a code defensive coordinator. But he's got to be good
Speaker 2: because that's really been the downfall of their operation, right
Speaker 2: just and really goes back to McCarthy with some of
Speaker 2: their great teams with Aaron Rodgers and listen, Mickveigh, what
Speaker 2: do they do defense right away. Kyle Shanahan, what's he
Speaker 2: always doing defense? They're all the top teams, even Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell their first two picks corners, and they've invested heavily
Speaker 2: in the defensive line. So you're playing a lot of
Speaker 2: teams in your conference, Howie Roseman over the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Cooper, Dejen Mitchell, the
Speaker 2: teali it's just defense. They just invest in that side
Speaker 2: of the ball. We know Green Bay and now Lafloor
Speaker 2: is well established. They're gonna score a lot of points
Speaker 2: and they have explosive players. Jacobs, I think Josh take
Speaker 2: a better player to take one Barkley. I mean, that
Speaker 2: guy is when he's healthy, he's a top two or
Speaker 2: three running back in the NFL. But it's gonna come
Speaker 2: down to defense. And like you said, in that division, Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't know how good Sam Darnold's gonna be, but
Speaker 2: if you catch him on the right day with those
Speaker 2: offensive weapons, they could score thirty five points. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: it's just you better a lot of pressures on that higher.
Speaker 2: You know, you got rid of Joe Berry, who was
Speaker 2: his buddy. It wasn't going as well, not all his fault.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the players too, But they've invested. They have
Speaker 2: invested a lot of picks, right, The Packers have on
Speaker 2: that side of the ball over the last half decade,
Speaker 2: a ton of high round picks on defense.
Speaker 1: What Jerry doesn't want to do is get trapped with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. And I thought it was strategic. I thought
Speaker 1: that was Jerry Jones saying, listen, we're gonna rely on you, Dak.
Speaker 1: This here. We're not giving you all this Sammo. We're
Speaker 1: gonna rebuild the offensive line. You'll get protection, but in
Speaker 1: a contract here, the last thing I'm gonna do is
Speaker 1: load you up with weapons. Dak's productions absolutely gonna come down.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't have a running back of
Speaker 1: note on the roster. And people could say, well, you're
Speaker 1: tanking the year. They're not tanking the year they'll be
Speaker 1: a good football team. But it felt strategic to me
Speaker 1: to not address running back and really frankly not address
Speaker 1: receiver until in the sixth round. That didn't feel like
Speaker 1: just a bad stroke of luck to me.
Speaker 2: I'm torn because it's hard for me to be critical
Speaker 2: when the ever you go offensive and defensive line early
Speaker 2: in the draft, which they have, and they're a good
Speaker 2: drafting team, bad running back draft. But let's face the
Speaker 2: colin until they give him a contract extension, which they
Speaker 2: should not. To me, this is him and McCarthy are
Speaker 2: playing for their jobs. Yeah, I mean this guy, Let's
Speaker 2: face it, they paid him a lot of money a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago off the broken ankle, and he's
Speaker 2: been really good in the regular season. In the playoffs
Speaker 2: two out of three years, he was atrocious. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was really bad three years ago against the Niners
Speaker 2: in this year in that first half in the game
Speaker 2: was over. Wasn't all his fault, but he did not
Speaker 2: play winning football. The price has gone up dramatically since
Speaker 2: they gave him forty million dollars a year just because
Speaker 2: the market right. So can you give Dak Prescott fifty
Speaker 2: five million dollars a year?
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I underno, and I he's better than Tua, But I
Speaker 2: say the same thing about Tua. If you're in that
Speaker 2: business long term, you're signing up at best to be
Speaker 2: a one and done playoff team. And the other thing is,
Speaker 2: let's face it, the Eagles have a lot more talent
Speaker 2: on their roster. Yeah, dramatically more top to bottom. We'll
Speaker 2: take john look at a team.
Speaker 1: Look at this, I mean aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley better at tight end and an athlete in their
Speaker 1: primeate quarterback. I mean, I don't at Lane Johnson at
Speaker 1: right tackle. I don't think it's necessarily close. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you're being kind saying they have more talent.
Speaker 1: I think it's lobsided in favor of Philly.
Speaker 2: Well and if Michael Parson is the best defensive player
Speaker 2: of the group, it's not like the Eagles haven't invested
Speaker 2: in that side the last couple of years in the
Speaker 2: draft with Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis. They just draft. They
Speaker 2: get the top corner in this draft with Cooper Degen
Speaker 2: as their second round pick, who will loo a lot
Speaker 2: of people had and how he even said we had
Speaker 2: a first round great on him as well. Darius Slay
Speaker 2: is an older player, but he's still a solid starter.
Speaker 2: They'll get rid of Brad Berry the Eagles, and now
Speaker 2: you add Fangio and Kellen Moore to the mix because
Speaker 2: last year their coaches really let him down. Like to me,
Speaker 2: this is anything less like one takeaway after the draft
Speaker 2: for the NFC East. I don't think the Giants are
Speaker 2: very good. Washington's in this rebuild mode. The Eagles have
Speaker 2: no excuse not to win this get that's right. I
Speaker 2: mean last year they imploded, Dallas kind of lucked into
Speaker 2: it at the end. Remember, but this should not like
Speaker 2: there should be a two or three game difference.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I think Dallas is gonna be good. I'm talking, you know,
Speaker 2: nine ten wins, but the Eagle there should be a
Speaker 2: gap between the two teams.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. And listen, there's there's
Speaker 1: a line with Dak Prescott. If he does not get
Speaker 1: one hundred yards run support, Dax wins about thirty five
Speaker 1: percent of his games. So it did feel like to
Speaker 1: me they got the cap issues, so you had to
Speaker 1: address running back in the draft. You're not gonna fine
Speaker 1: running back where.
Speaker 2: Well, they don't really exist. You just got to get
Speaker 2: lucky with an undrafted free agent. Basically, you're keeping your
Speaker 2: fingers crossed, you know.
Speaker 1: I thought hardball was going to have there were going
Speaker 1: to be more fireworks with the Chargers. I did think
Speaker 1: they got a couple of really interesting pieces, a couple
Speaker 1: of small school guys. But I think By and large,
Speaker 1: the Joe allpick was interesting because they have a left tackle,
Speaker 1: though Slater had an injury and all, it's kind of
Speaker 1: an He's an athlete, he was a high school basketball player.
Speaker 1: He's he's moved around, he's been a he's a very
Speaker 1: good athlete.
Speaker 2: You see his pictures after we got off of him
Speaker 2: sitting with his family. How massive that human being is.
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where I never bought
Speaker 1: into them taking a wide receiver. I just didn't buy.
Speaker 1: And everybody's mock draft have them at receiver, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that's just not what they They're not going to
Speaker 1: get some skinny kid from LSU, who's so I mean
Speaker 1: to me, the pick made sense. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: the Chargers had that many fireworks. I thought they did
Speaker 1: this basic stuff, played in the gym.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think they got a linebacker if I recall from
Speaker 1: the Michigan But I didn't think there was a ton
Speaker 1: of fireworks with the Chargers.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is most people, up until the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, when I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people around the NFL like Jim's not taking a wide receiver. Guys,
Speaker 2: So we can stop talking about that. But even the
Speaker 2: second pick in Lad McConkie. You know a lot of
Speaker 2: people have been like, go get Herbert, go trade up
Speaker 2: and get a Xavier Worthy, or you know, get Keon Coleman,
Speaker 2: the guy the Bills took, and he took Lad McConkie.
Speaker 2: You know who's gonna end up to me being more
Speaker 2: Edelman Wes Welker can play right in the slot receiver.
Speaker 2: Jim's not into this sexy football. He's not trying to
Speaker 2: be you know, Lane Kiffin or Lincoln Riley. That's not
Speaker 2: the way he coaches. He coaches like he's prepared to
Speaker 2: pay playing Mike Ditka and Joe Gibbs back in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight. And that's the way that's been successful up
Speaker 2: into him three months ago when he won the national championship. Fundamentally,
Speaker 2: that's and I think when he said we view offensive
Speaker 2: lineman as weapons, he's not making a he's being serious
Speaker 2: as a heart attack because he truly believes that. So
Speaker 2: justin Herbert, like they are, I'm actually a little shocked
Speaker 2: that they didn't get Blake Korum. I'm pissed the Rams
Speaker 2: and I love that pick, but that it's just he's
Speaker 2: going to the football is gonna look no different than
Speaker 2: if you pull up Stanford year one in eight. It's
Speaker 2: gonna look the exact same. And it looked the same
Speaker 2: in the forty nine ers. Early on in Michigan he
Speaker 2: changed for a minute. Remember when he hired Gaddis, the
Speaker 2: spread guy from album and he hated it. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he hated it. And then who became his right hand man?
Speaker 2: Sharon Moore? What's the an O line coach? And that
Speaker 2: guy became the head. Those are the people he likes.
Speaker 2: You see these videos coming out of him at the
Speaker 2: at the trailer park. It was not the trailer park,
Speaker 2: but you know he lived right with Greg Roman. What
Speaker 2: do they talk about running game? Offensive linemen, they're all
Speaker 2: that hybrid of the ravens of him. They're all interconnected.
Speaker 2: And I'm just honestly, if you would have told me
Speaker 2: he would have drafted all offensive and defensive linemen. Those
Speaker 2: were the only picks, no wide receivers two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I would have believed you. I mean, that's not how
Speaker 2: it played out. But he thinks he can win. If
Speaker 2: he's winning at that group, he can figure the rest
Speaker 2: out through I would say psychological and physical warfare because
Speaker 2: he wants to shove you around. And let's face it,
Speaker 2: most teams in the NFL, you know, when you look
Speaker 2: at like once we get to the final four of
Speaker 2: the final eight, it's a lot of physical teams and
Speaker 2: the soft teams. Some teams that can score. They got
Speaker 2: no shot, They got no shot. And you look at
Speaker 2: the final four, who wasn't It was the Niners, it
Speaker 2: was the Ravens, it was the Chiefs. What if the
Speaker 2: Lions become under Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's got a little
Speaker 2: Jim harbaughd Yeah, right, And I would say they throw
Speaker 2: it a little more than Jim, But that's part of
Speaker 2: It's their weapons. Saint Brown's a fantastic player, but it
Speaker 2: starts with the offensive and defensive lines with them, and
Speaker 2: that's where they've invested the last couple well, even Saint Brown.
Speaker 2: Jim would love Saint Brown. So woul Kyle Shanahan. He's
Speaker 2: their type, breaks tackles. He's not some sexy outside wide
Speaker 2: receiver despite his stats.
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Speaker 1: So I went and it was interesting. I went and
Speaker 1: I went and looked at all my divisions. So we're
Speaker 1: basically through it now. We have new coaches, we have
Speaker 1: free agency, staffs are all for that. We have the draft,
Speaker 1: and I'll just do the first and last place teams
Speaker 1: and stop mena. I'm gonna go this.
Speaker 2: This is what you think coming up?
Speaker 1: This was yeah, this season, I have Buffalo first, New
Speaker 1: England last, Baltimore first, Cleveland last. Cleveland had a weird draft.
Speaker 2: Kansas since he could be a wild card there, Burrows healthy, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Put them second, Kansas City first, Raiders last, tough division,
Speaker 1: Houston first, Tennessee's an easy last, Philly first, I have
Speaker 1: Giants last. I'm with it, Detroit first, Minnesota last. Though
Speaker 1: it's close Atlanta first, New Orleans last, or Carolina kind
Speaker 1: of question mark. I have the Rams first and I
Speaker 1: have Seattle last. I think the Rams are I thought
Speaker 1: they really nailed their first four picks. I thought they
Speaker 1: really Yeah, is anything so we can argue about the
Speaker 1: second and third teams, but any of those first and
Speaker 1: last you would push back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about McVeigh because I thought he's a
Speaker 2: good example what Kyle and Andy and these offensive coaches
Speaker 2: have invested in physical players because they know that they
Speaker 2: can scheme guys open yea and he invests his first
Speaker 2: pick in verse who's been a few as a first rounder.
Speaker 1: This day, we loved him. Heard a month ago they
Speaker 1: loved him.
Speaker 2: This second round pick one of the guy. When I
Speaker 2: started at Fresno State, we had a student assistant who
Speaker 2: has worked his way up and he's been with Oregon State.
Speaker 2: He's been the GM for Florida State for like the
Speaker 2: last three years, and he's Derek Ray. He's you know,
Speaker 2: if we talked about college gms like we do NFL GMC,
Speaker 2: I mean, look.
Speaker 3: At this draft.
Speaker 2: I mean how many guys at Florida State were has picked.
Speaker 2: He's done a great job working hand in hand with Norvelle.
Speaker 2: I said, what this Brandon Fisk guy, Brandon Fisk tell
Speaker 2: me about him? He said, think Max Crosby. But inside,
Speaker 2: So their first two picks, you know, we know that's
Speaker 2: how Verse kind of plays power, that's what this guy plays.
Speaker 2: So you're never going to replace Aaron Donald. But they
Speaker 2: go back to back picks basically in what fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty pick because they traded up. They got Fisk in
Speaker 2: the top forty, so they invest immediately and they get
Speaker 2: Blake korm who if he's healthy. We've seen how this
Speaker 2: guy was a heartbeat of one of the better college
Speaker 2: football programs we've seen over the last twenty years. H
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Jim Harbu's favorite player since Frank Gore.
Speaker 2: So I think the gap shrunk a little bit. And
Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan showed you something drafting that wide
Speaker 2: receiver in the first round. Deebo Samo could not get
Speaker 2: open to the Super Bowl. He can't run routes. And
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to talk about d Ball.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 2: He's a lot of stuff he does in football. I
Speaker 2: admire a lot the physicality, the ability to make plays,
Speaker 2: but he is limited as a wide receiver. He can't
Speaker 2: get open, and I think Kyle was tired of it,
Speaker 2: and it's not at this point in time, it's not
Speaker 2: going to change. He kind of is what it is.
Speaker 2: So maybe Deebo, moving forward, you're gonna be on this
Speaker 2: new kickoff return guy and you'll kind of come in
Speaker 2: with McCaffrey in the backfield. But we need to run.
Speaker 2: We need to have wide receivers like a Yuk who
Speaker 2: can run routes. And because like look at the Rams,
Speaker 2: they got a bunch of guys that can run routes.
Speaker 2: I can't scheme up every single play. We got guys
Speaker 2: on defense, we got guys on offense. But that they
Speaker 2: drafted Piersoll like that clearly was something that rattle Shanahan,
Speaker 2: just like McVeigh, like, we need to be even more physical.
Speaker 2: We're going to get over that hump against all these
Speaker 2: great offenses and they double down. So I think I
Speaker 2: think those two teams right there with the Lions, right
Speaker 2: there with the Packers, right there with the Eagles, Like
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear with the NFC who's who the cream
Speaker 2: of the crop is.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, And I think I also think you have
Speaker 1: to take this into consideration is Debo McCaffrey's had injuries
Speaker 1: in his career, Trent Kittle, you can't have your four
Speaker 1: top guys all feel like they're older than their age.
Speaker 1: Like if you have Ayyuk is a kid, right, he's
Speaker 1: just moving into his prime. If you're gonna if you're
Speaker 1: gonna move off and next year they have to address
Speaker 1: left tackle because Trent is a wall. But I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I look at the NFC and I think it's I mean,
Speaker 1: the Rams were so much better than everybody thought. I
Speaker 1: knew going into the weekend. They felt brock Bauers could
Speaker 1: start for him. Two of the defensive ends they thought
Speaker 1: were really good, the UCLA kid and Jared Verse. They
Speaker 1: loved those two. And then I knew they loved a
Speaker 1: couple different defensive linemen and the Florida State guy Fisk
Speaker 1: is one of them. And then I felt Blake Cole.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew they loved Korum, but I mean
Speaker 1: they when people got on them for giving up a
Speaker 1: second round pick and a fifth to move up, they
Speaker 1: really felt like they needed two starters in the defensive line,
Speaker 1: a great backup running back for Kien Williams, and a
Speaker 1: playmaking guy in the back. The Miami kid like they
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of needs a lot of their
Speaker 1: stuff after those picks, interior lineman Kicker. The Texas receivers
Speaker 1: were the a special teams guy. Otherwise they would have
Speaker 1: taken Taj Washington from USC they who they liked a lot,
Speaker 1: but they needed a special teams guy. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these teams come into the weekend,
Speaker 1: the NFC teams, and the Rams are one of them.
Speaker 1: I think people forget this for the elite teams, and
Speaker 1: I consider the Rams in a group of about seven
Speaker 1: or eight, they come in kind of thinking we need
Speaker 1: two starters and like two really crucial productive backups. But
Speaker 1: I've never had a problem John with giving away picks
Speaker 1: to go get up and get a guy. Nick right
Speaker 1: stops five, We'll chop it up. The playoffs have been
Speaker 1: absolutely riveting. Can't turn it off of must have been
Speaker 1: electric electric And then, by the way, this is the
Speaker 1: first round. This is the worst I can look past.
Speaker 1: So my take on I never mind people who are
Speaker 1: a pushback contrarian, but I do feel you and I
Speaker 1: are pretty honest about Yeah, it was either wrong or
Speaker 1: I can I can literally think two things. Load management
Speaker 1: pisses me off, and the NBA is great. It's just
Speaker 1: not great. In January, well.
Speaker 3: And things there are the everything has become. It feels
Speaker 3: so tribal, Yes that it is. Everything is the way
Speaker 3: the way a die hard fan of a specific sports team,
Speaker 3: the way a die hard fan of Alabama football roots
Speaker 3: for Alabama football is basically how a huge percentage of
Speaker 3: people deal with every aspect of their life. I fucking
Speaker 3: love it, so everything about it is correct, and anyone
Speaker 3: criticizing it is wrong, as opposed to any type of
Speaker 3: I love this, didn't like this, this is good, This
Speaker 3: is bad. Anyone that acts as if the NBA folks
Speaker 3: who've been like NBA is dying, you know that is baby.
Speaker 3: You know it's obviously not true. Anybody though, acting as
Speaker 3: if that there aren't aspects to the the overwhelming and
Speaker 3: what is about to be under the new TV deal
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars a year contracts that complicate a
Speaker 3: lot of the day to day factors of the league.
Speaker 3: They're being intellectually dishonest in my opinion. I also, I
Speaker 3: do think and I maybe have mentioned this to you.
Speaker 3: I know I mentioned it on my pod. But I
Speaker 3: do think the NBA made a strategic error this season.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tell I'm gonna do a Colin Coward
Speaker 3: in a bit, I'm gonna give an anecdote or a story.
Speaker 3: It'll get there. So a guy who you know, I'm
Speaker 3: sure Connor Shll Yeah. So you know he you know,
Speaker 3: used to be run It was a big executive at ESPN,
Speaker 3: helped start thirty for thirties. Now he runs a company
Speaker 3: of his own. Oddly, his father and my mom worked
Speaker 3: together when I was a little kid, so I knew
Speaker 3: Connor is a little kid, and I never really knew
Speaker 3: exactly what his dad did. And maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 3: as a little kid, what it was described to me
Speaker 3: as he was in charge of long term strategy, meaning
Speaker 3: like when Sprint came out with a new phone, his
Speaker 3: job would be like, Okay, when this phone is bordering
Speaker 3: on obsolete, how are we gonna sell the last hundred
Speaker 3: of them? You know what I mean? Like long, long,
Speaker 3: short thinking. And I think the NBA needed someone in
Speaker 3: that role eighteen months ago to say, guys, here is
Speaker 3: all of NBA history and ages of guys on their
Speaker 3: last playoff run. Are is it on the board that
Speaker 3: we just had the final Lebron Deep Playoffs, STEPH Deep Playoffs,
Speaker 3: Durant Deep playoffs, these guys. Is it possible, in fact
Speaker 3: overwhelmingly likely, that one, two, or all of them aren't
Speaker 3: going to be around when the calendar turns to May.
Speaker 3: If so, is it worthwhile for us to take a
Speaker 3: short term regular season ratings hit by featuring the Oklahoma
Speaker 3: City Thunder, the Minnesota Timberwolves, these teams to prime the
Speaker 3: audience that this is where our league's going. And they
Speaker 3: didn't do that. Instead it was Warriors, Lakers, Suns these guys.
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if this second round of the playoffs,
Speaker 3: when you have Nuggets, Timberwolves, and when you have Thunder,
Speaker 3: maybe MAVs, if people are gonna see a ratings dip.
Speaker 3: It won't affect the new TV contract all of that,
Speaker 3: But because the audience doesn't know this is their league now, Colin,
Speaker 3: if the Bucks lose this series, they're down three to two.
Speaker 3: And if the Clippers lose this series, the oldest star
Speaker 3: player left in the playoffs, Luca is no, not Luke,
Speaker 3: Kyrie is Kyrie who's thirty just turned thirty two. That everyone,
Speaker 3: everyone will be gone like Joker, who's twenty eight or
Speaker 3: twenty nine will be like the third oldest star left.
Speaker 3: The Clippers are all old guys. They're on the I
Speaker 3: think gonna lose. The Lakers are already out. The Warriors
Speaker 3: didn't make it, the Suns are out, the Bucks are
Speaker 3: on the brink. Like this is a massive storming of
Speaker 3: the gates of the twenty somethings. But everyone should have
Speaker 3: expected it. When Kobe Bryant's last playoff game ever, he
Speaker 3: was thirty two. Michael Jordan was thirty five, Like, the
Speaker 3: guys don't play if people saw what Lebron did, so
Speaker 3: they thought Stephen Durant and Kawhi and Paul George are
Speaker 3: gonna do it. Nobody else is gonna do it. Stephan
Speaker 3: kd already exceeded age expectation. So I think the NBA
Speaker 3: made a mistake there. I also think my favorite two
Speaker 3: months of the year are the NBA playoffs. Ye, my
Speaker 3: favorite twenty days of the year or my twenty NFL Sundays,
Speaker 3: and my favorite two months of the year of the
Speaker 3: NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. Last weekend, the draft of the
Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs is the best non NFL Weekend of the
Speaker 1: Year by far. I just I didn't leave my place
Speaker 1: the whole damn weekend. I thought it was that was
Speaker 1: just draft playoffs, Draft twelve good.
Speaker 3: I think you can make an argument the Giants won
Speaker 3: the draft because New England didn't take their trade. It's
Speaker 3: reported yesterday that the Giants offered six and next year's
Speaker 3: number one for the third pick, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: so they hoped to draft Drake May at three, not
Speaker 3: add any weapons in the first round, to trade the
Speaker 3: pick and have Drake May, a twenty one year old
Speaker 3: with high upside, but who was a radic at North
Speaker 3: Carolina at put him behind that offensive line with those weapons.
Speaker 3: Guess what I think that they done, That they'd be
Speaker 3: drafting number one next year and they'd be sending it
Speaker 3: to New England like Carolina just did. Like the fact
Speaker 3: that the Giants now have next year's number one. This year,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Drew Lock plays, maybe Daniel Jones plays,
Speaker 3: but at least he has a weapon, and then next
Speaker 3: year you try to go find your quarterback. That I
Speaker 3: think New England turning that trade down was a bit
Speaker 3: of a mistake. They'll regret. I think that you could
Speaker 3: have gone on to six, gotten Giants number one next year,
Speaker 3: and at six, we know Minnesota is willing to give
Speaker 3: you eleven and twenty three, so you could have had
Speaker 3: eleven and twenty three to add players, your first rounder
Speaker 3: and the Giants first rounder next year, start Jakobe for
Speaker 3: a season, and then that's what I would have done
Speaker 3: it for for in New England. But New England's GM
Speaker 3: was auditioning for his job. He doesn't even have it yet,
Speaker 3: and the owners that I want a quarterback, so I
Speaker 3: guess he's gonna draft a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I had an executive in the league said, if you're
Speaker 1: the Giants, you are rooting for Bryce Young and Will
Speaker 1: Levis because then the only other team that's guaranteed to
Speaker 1: take a quarterback is the Raiders. So somebody said he said,
Speaker 1: he said to me, you are rooting for that. Let
Speaker 1: hit point and Bryce Young to hit if you're the Giants,
Speaker 1: because then it's like us and the Raiders need quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and they'll be two good prospects. You know, Shador Sanders,
Speaker 1: the kid cam Ward at Miami, who's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: There's a kids at Day.
Speaker 1: You've got a transfer who's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: No, and I the win yours people like him. And
Speaker 3: then there's one more that we're forgetting. That's the guy
Speaker 3: who's most likely to go number one. I talked about
Speaker 3: on the show today, so I see if I can
Speaker 3: remember it. But the I was just about to look, like,
Speaker 3: hold on a second, who are the teams that could.
Speaker 1: Titans Giants?
Speaker 3: Well, Carson Beck is the other one, the kid from
Speaker 3: Georgia that.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a top five pick. I think
Speaker 1: he's Georgia good.
Speaker 3: I think you're probably right. But the if you look
Speaker 3: at I was gonna look through the NFL like teams
Speaker 3: that you know, Buffalo, no, Miami, No. The Jets are
Speaker 3: a maybe if Aaron gets hurt, if Aaron gets hurt,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? The Jets are a maybe.
Speaker 3: New England No, Baltimore. Cleveland is a maybe. I don't
Speaker 3: know what I mean. They're and I mean that's a
Speaker 3: rough spot, man, uh but Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh's a maybe.
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of maybees. But there's not a
Speaker 3: lot of definites to your point, like the because everybody
Speaker 3: when six quarterback going round one, everybody thinks they have
Speaker 3: a quarterback. You know what I mean, like there's just
Speaker 3: the you mentioned.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, sorry, and they'll at least give those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: till Thanksgiving of the second year. And so this executive said,
Speaker 1: the bottom line, if you're the Giants, he said, I
Speaker 1: don't think will Levis is gonna work. He said, I
Speaker 1: think Bryce will. He liked Bryce. He said, Bryce is talented.
Speaker 1: He's not as big as you'd like, but they got
Speaker 1: him weapons, they got him a really good wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He's like, Bryce will move the chains. They'll stick with him.
Speaker 1: But he said, the Giants and the Raiders, that's it
Speaker 1: that you're absolutely and neither one's going to be any good.
Speaker 1: He said, so those are those are your top two
Speaker 1: potential picks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for one of those teams, Tom Brady probably.
Speaker 1: Played for him, so they don't won't need to Why not?
Speaker 3: I mean the he wants to play football so badly,
Speaker 3: Like I get it. The I mean, I I don't
Speaker 3: blame him. That. Did you see Lebron's quote? Lebron had
Speaker 3: a quote after the game that I thought was so fascinating.
Speaker 3: It was also almost a little sad, and it made
Speaker 3: me think of Brady to a degree where Lebron said,
Speaker 3: I think to Dave mcmannimon along the lines of I'm
Speaker 3: never gonna be bad, so, but at some point I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to stop. And he basically said, like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not chasing anything anymore. I've accomplished everything I wanted
Speaker 3: to accomplish, but at some point I've got to stop playing.
Speaker 3: And it was such a unique thing because I watched it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he's never gonna be I mean, I
Speaker 3: never's a long time obviously, but I think five years
Speaker 3: from now Lebron would be good. I do. I like,
Speaker 3: I know, you know what I mean. Right now, what
Speaker 3: is he at best the sixth best player in the
Speaker 3: league and at worst the twelfth best player in the league.
Speaker 3: He's somewhere in there. He you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: he lives. He's better, in my opinion, clearly than Devin Booker.
Speaker 3: And Devin Booker's an all NBA guy.
Speaker 1: He led the NBA in fourth quarter buckets and playoff
Speaker 1: bucket right.
Speaker 3: So, and he played seventy one games. So it's such
Speaker 3: a unique spot for Lebron, which is like most guys
Speaker 3: get forced out. Most guys they you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: they have their fair their averaging five points a game,
Speaker 3: So he's not gonna be that. So at some point
Speaker 3: he's just gonna have to be like, I guess I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm stopping. And that's kind of what happened with Tom.
Speaker 3: Like I understand the Bucks were not good Tom's last year,
Speaker 3: but the year before he almost won MVP. He still
Speaker 3: grew for a million yards.
Speaker 1: He's better than half the quarterbacks today easily, no question,
Speaker 1: no question.
Speaker 3: And he just stopped. And there's I understand that there
Speaker 3: was families some of New Zealand. I get it, but
Speaker 3: I think every time someone puts a microphone in front
Speaker 3: of him, he clearly is like, goddamn it, I want
Speaker 3: to play football. I missed playing football. And you know
Speaker 3: he's gonna be with Fox and calling games and maybe
Speaker 3: that'll scratch the itch, but it also might make him
Speaker 3: watch these guys and be like, god, dog it, I'm
Speaker 3: better than that guy, you know, And so like it's
Speaker 3: a weird spot. We're seeing two guys Lebron nearing the
Speaker 3: end and Brady who just ended, who played longer than
Speaker 3: anybody ever in the history of their field and at
Speaker 3: a higher level than anyone ever thought, who both you know,
Speaker 3: Brady already had to and Lebron's gonna have to We're
Speaker 3: gonna have to oddly make the decision of like I
Speaker 3: guess I just should stop because I'm old, but I'm
Speaker 3: not bad, and it's such a weird thing, like people
Speaker 3: are like, Oh, John Elway went out on top. John
Speaker 3: Elway went out winning super Bowls, but he was not
Speaker 3: good anymore, like you know what I mean. I'm not
Speaker 3: disrespecting John, but like the he was, he was a
Speaker 3: shell of the player that he was. Peyton Manning went
Speaker 3: out winning a Super Bowl, was nine touchdown, seventeen picks
Speaker 3: that year. Was a shell. But even the guys who
Speaker 3: go out on top are usually not good anymore. So
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean. The Brady
Speaker 3: seems to still miss it. I don't know what Lebron's
Speaker 3: gonna do.
Speaker 1: Brady is I can I I'll probably get in trouble
Speaker 1: saying this, But Brady his preparation for broadcasting at Fox. Dude,
Speaker 1: he he's in the building today. You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: in trouble for he was in the building today, the
Speaker 1: last the next three days, he's in the building practicing.
Speaker 1: Like Brady is as obsessed about this. People don't understand
Speaker 1: the people.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be great. I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be great because he's competitive. Yes, I think that is.
Speaker 3: I think the key to so much of this is competitive. Yes.
Speaker 3: And I think that there is the Tom had And
Speaker 3: I don't know Tom at all, but he had recently
Speaker 3: in the last year he did an interview and he
Speaker 3: was talking about during the game and was basically about
Speaker 3: how like he hated who he was playing against, like
Speaker 3: he would build up an anger and like the real
Speaker 3: like Frauth. Because he's a competitive And now I think
Speaker 3: he's going to look around and be like, I need
Speaker 3: to be better. And it helps that most of the
Speaker 3: other people in his spot are quarterbacks too. I need
Speaker 3: to be better than Troy. I need to be better
Speaker 3: than Tony. I know Collins, it's not a quarterback, but
Speaker 3: I need to. I think he's gonna want to be
Speaker 3: considered the best. And there was always you remember God,
Speaker 3: it feels like a lifetime ago. But during when the
Speaker 3: Flategate happened and Tom unfairly at his text messages leaked
Speaker 3: and the text message to his I think it was
Speaker 3: his dad, maybe it was his friend about Peyton. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they were to draw about back and forth, and
Speaker 3: Tom said, He's like, yeah, but I'm gonna play five
Speaker 3: more years and Peyton's done, and then it's not even
Speaker 3: going to be a debate. And by the way, he
Speaker 3: was right about that. That's exactly what happened. But I
Speaker 3: also think there's like competitiveness with Peyton, which is Peyton's
Speaker 3: a broadcaster, you know what I mean, and everybody, unlike
Speaker 3: some of the other broadcasters, none of the Blooms everybody.
Speaker 3: I think that broadcast is great. People love it. I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be like, I'm gonna crush these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I really do so. I bet he's gonna
Speaker 3: be awesome.
Speaker 1: I think about this a lot because I do criticize
Speaker 1: athletes at times about how remarkable athletes are. So if
Speaker 1: you look at the history of comedy, you get to
Speaker 1: be the funniest guy in the world for about three
Speaker 1: to five years. Ben Stiller, Jim Carrey, there was Drew
Speaker 1: Carey twenty five years ago. Mike Myers.
Speaker 3: By the way, he's very charitable to include Ben Stiller
Speaker 3: on the funniest Guy. He's worldless. He's pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Maybe he's a friend I don't know who
Speaker 3: you're having drinks with, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: So if you go look at you know, Chris rock A,
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, David you know where you're sort of spell Chappelle. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and then it's very hard to be as funny because
Speaker 1: your life experience changes dramatically because there's so much money
Speaker 1: in movies and production when you get.
Speaker 3: Big, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course hip hop stars similarly, first couple albums
Speaker 1: can be fantastic and then the material changes hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Athletes, what's really amazing is athletes are almost the opposite.
Speaker 1: Mahomes is better since he's been paid, Lebron was better
Speaker 1: when he was paid. Is that athletes, unlike other entertainers,
Speaker 1: often feel a guilt or a pressure to elevate their
Speaker 1: greatness when they're paid. It's very rare when you look
Speaker 1: at athletes. They get paid, and I'm sure it happens,
Speaker 1: but I'm.
Speaker 3: Told it not to the great ones. That's between the
Speaker 3: great ones and everyone else, because I think that when
Speaker 3: you talk about getting paid, but I think that at
Speaker 3: every step of your athletic journey, there has been a
Speaker 3: getting paid, but the not actually money moment where you
Speaker 3: could relax you know what I mean, The kid who,
Speaker 3: when he makes varsity as a freshman takes his foot
Speaker 3: off the gas doesn't get the college scholarship. And the
Speaker 3: kid who, when he goes to college is a starter
Speaker 3: early on and takes far off the gas doesn't make
Speaker 3: the league. So it almost you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: It slowly, but surely weeds. It weeds those people out
Speaker 3: because it's such a finite number and there's always a
Speaker 3: new crop of people coming for those jobs.
Speaker 1: Also, is that in hip hop, when you win, you're
Speaker 1: worshiped by everybody. In comedy, when you're the king of laughs,
Speaker 1: you are worshiped by everybody. In sports, when you win,
Speaker 1: most of the league hates you. So in sports, greatness
Speaker 1: does not equal worship outside of your town. It equals
Speaker 1: kind of a villain, kind of a target. And and
Speaker 1: that's why music critics tend to be too soft and
Speaker 1: and and you know, movie critics are you know, they
Speaker 1: they're they're too in bed with them music and movie
Speaker 1: critics in Hollywood. When's the last really tough reporter that
Speaker 1: Hollywood had? They don't. So it goes to your head
Speaker 1: in music, and it doesn't work that way. But the
Speaker 1: media in sports kicks the shit out of you. Once
Speaker 1: you're great. It's like, well, you weren't good last week
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. And there's there's a healthy there's a healthy
Speaker 1: account ability that doesn't exist in comedy, movies, music. This
Speaker 1: accountability standings criticism that I think actually, it's like being
Speaker 1: tough on your kids. It builds character.
Speaker 3: So I think you might have just solved. Might not
Speaker 3: be the right word, but you just said something that
Speaker 3: really crystallized something for me. Okay, we might have just like,
Speaker 3: I feel like this is a real thing that just
Speaker 3: happened because you talk, you're talking about them between athletes
Speaker 3: and artists. Yeah, And I'm not taking I'm really not
Speaker 3: trying to be unfair or take a shot. But there
Speaker 3: are two specific NBA players that I think, as great
Speaker 3: as they are, have markedly underachieved their talent and ability,
Speaker 3: even though they are. One of them's one of the
Speaker 3: twenty greatest players ever and one of them is one
Speaker 3: of the ten most skilled players ever. And I think
Speaker 3: both of them view themselves more artists than athletes. And
Speaker 3: those two guys are heaven Rant and Kyrie Era, and
Speaker 3: I think a lot of what has worked against them
Speaker 3: and a lot of what they have pushed against is
Speaker 3: that they are covered like their athletes and not like
Speaker 3: their artists. That it is a lot of criticism and
Speaker 3: a lot of why did you do this, and a
Speaker 3: lot of but you didn't do that, and comparative stuff
Speaker 3: that athletes are used to. But they're like, we're fucking artists, man,
Speaker 3: I am out here painting a picture and you're asking
Speaker 3: me these questions, like, just appreciate the art. Meanwhile, other
Speaker 3: folks who look at themselves as I don't want to say,
Speaker 3: hired guns, but we are in competition and we are
Speaker 3: here to win and toe, you know, to do what
Speaker 3: we have to do, haven't been as bothered by the
Speaker 3: media criticism. But it does Katie and Kyrie who and
Speaker 3: again Kyrie, to his credit, has been unbelievable this year,
Speaker 3: and Katie post Achilles is the best Achilles recovery in
Speaker 3: sports history. So I'm not trying to be unfair. It
Speaker 3: really is. I'm not trying to be unfair and I
Speaker 3: aren't trying to take a shot, but they really seem
Speaker 3: to both struggle with the way they are covered by
Speaker 3: the media and what you just described about how artists,
Speaker 3: musicians or actors or comedians are covered by the media
Speaker 3: is different than how we do athletes. We don't do
Speaker 3: when a movie six, when there is a huge movie
Speaker 3: release weekend. When Barbie and Oppenheimer come out the same weekend,
Speaker 3: there were no articles written like, well, fucking Oppenheimer, how
Speaker 3: do you not win that? People are just like this
Speaker 3: was awesome. This was even more awesome. These are both great.
Speaker 3: It's and so that I do. I think there is
Speaker 3: something there and maybe I can describe it exactly right,
Speaker 3: but about the difference between how athletes and artists are discussed,
Speaker 3: and whether or not you consider yourself an athlete or
Speaker 3: an artist, and how you want to then be discussed
Speaker 3: in how you feel you should be discussed.
Speaker 1: I also think basketball more than any sport, and soccer
Speaker 1: has some of this as well. I've always compared basketball
Speaker 1: to international soccer. Messi is an artist, Rinaldo is an artist.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is an artist. Tom Brady's a football player,
Speaker 1: right like Mike Trout's a baseball player. That's different.
Speaker 3: But I think Lebron's an artist.
Speaker 1: No, No, he's more compartmentalized and strategic artists, aren't they
Speaker 1: kind of hear? I mean very much Lebron's a stacker.
Speaker 1: Compartmentalize work on this part of the game, solve this part.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's not looking to solve. Kyrie Irving's not looking
Speaker 1: to solve parts their game. They're looking to paint their
Speaker 1: most beautiful picture. Kyrie had it the other night with
Speaker 1: that layup over three Clippers.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly right, like that kind even though they
Speaker 3: that kind of was and there is something beautiful about
Speaker 3: this and we're honorable about it, where it's like that
Speaker 3: Kyrie has worked for He's thirty two, so call it
Speaker 3: twenty five years on every little bit of his ability
Speaker 3: in order to pull off that one moment. And I
Speaker 3: know he's obviously on way more than that, but I'm
Speaker 3: saying like that that was of physics and basketball impossibility.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. It was it was his mona, Lisa,
Speaker 1: it was his.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right, it was, And it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you are probably literally the only human being who's ever
Speaker 3: lived who could do that. Like I believe that. I
Speaker 3: really believe that. Yeah, And I think there's for Kyrie.
Speaker 3: He's like in God, damn it, you guys still credit.
Speaker 2: Like do you not see it?
Speaker 3: Like do you not understand, but because it's sports, we're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're lost and you haven't been in the finals
Speaker 3: in eight years because it's sports, and so yeah, I
Speaker 3: do think there is I want to think about this
Speaker 3: more because you said it in real time, but I
Speaker 3: do think there is something really to that, and I
Speaker 3: think there is. I'm going to start like looking at
Speaker 3: because you know, another guy who I think was as
Speaker 3: much as you can be in football, closer to artists
Speaker 3: than an athlete, is my Palodell. I think there was
Speaker 3: a lot of like, look at this show I am
Speaker 3: putting on. Look at what I can do that I
Speaker 3: have worked on and honed, and the beauty of it
Speaker 3: and then all. But he he's also a guy who
Speaker 3: never felt he was given a fair shake by the media,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, who never felt it was
Speaker 3: that it was that he was covered fairly.
Speaker 1: I called an NFL head coach on Will Levis's combine
Speaker 1: when he was wearing a shirtless yes ripped. It was
Speaker 1: very Brady Quinn and I said, I'm out on him,
Speaker 1: and he goes call this NFL head coach successful coach,
Speaker 1: he said, Colin. It was the talk of a road
Speaker 1: trip me and the GM went on recently. It was
Speaker 1: the talk of the he cares deeply about his girlfriend
Speaker 1: was beautiful. He's a good looking guy, big man on
Speaker 1: campus in Kentucky at basketball school. He's the football star
Speaker 1: Will Levis's I'm going to show you my build literally
Speaker 1: a successful GM and coach said they went on a
Speaker 1: drive and that it was the topic of conversation like
Speaker 1: he's got the wrong priorities.
Speaker 3: On that note, and we can, you know, leave it
Speaker 3: at this. I am shocked. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: you saw this reporting, but Spencer Rattler evidently was on
Speaker 3: a Netflix dock six years ago when he was in
Speaker 3: high school. Did you see any of this comment? Okay,
Speaker 3: so there was a Lebron's company produced a Netflix documentary
Speaker 3: called QB one, and it was basically they followed around
Speaker 3: I didn't see it some top high school quarterback prospects
Speaker 3: on their journey, you know what I mean? Like, what's
Speaker 3: it like to be one of the top prospects in America?
Speaker 3: Is a sixteen year old? Sixteen And evidently Spencer Rattler
Speaker 3: was a real dick as a kid, was mean to
Speaker 3: his backup quarterback, was a bit of a bully, was
Speaker 3: kind of like your stereotypical, mean, popular jock, and Ian
Speaker 3: Rappaport reported that multiple teams brought it up to him
Speaker 3: before the draft, like yeah, we just we and it's like, dude,
Speaker 3: this guy was literally sixteen years old, Like I don't know, man, Like,
Speaker 3: please don't use against me in a job interview how
Speaker 3: I treated, Like come on, And so here's why I
Speaker 3: bring that up. I don't even care about Spencer Ratler
Speaker 3: in that art. I am shocked no one has talked
Speaker 3: about what Shador Sanders and to be fair, Dion have
Speaker 3: been doing these last couple of days, just punching down
Speaker 3: in guys that left the school. And if you're Dion,
Speaker 3: and I have massive respect for Dion in general, but
Speaker 3: if you're Dion, it's like, man, this guy was one
Speaker 3: of your players, and you're like where your stats at?
Speaker 3: Like you are one of the most famous athlete coaches
Speaker 3: in America and this is a twenty year old Like
Speaker 3: that doesn't seem right. But then Shador, like, buddy, people
Speaker 3: are talking about use the number one pick of the
Speaker 3: draft and you're on Twitter just shit talking guys like
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that's not gonna be a problem in
Speaker 3: a year. Oh, I just can't.
Speaker 1: It's already been discussed. It's absolutely being discussed in the league.
Speaker 1: It's not a good look at all.
Speaker 3: That's what I think. I just I think, like, listen,
Speaker 3: any position other than quarterback, I don't think people would care.
Speaker 3: Same Travis Hunter, who's going to be a top ten
Speaker 3: pick on Colorada.
Speaker 1: I almost like it from an edge rusher. I want
Speaker 1: you to be obnoxious, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean that it's certainly a corner like there are
Speaker 3: a certain spot, you know what I mean, Like Travis Hunter,
Speaker 3: like corner wide receiver. It's like, Okay, the guy's a
Speaker 3: little out of his mind, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, talks in the third person. Great love it.
Speaker 3: I've actually seen that archetype go to the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 3: fair or not. And again I'm not even saying it's right.
Speaker 3: What I am saying is if Spencer Rattler can fall
Speaker 3: a full round as Rap Report was talking about because
Speaker 3: of how he acted as a junior in high school, yeah,
Speaker 3: then what are these same teams going to be saying
Speaker 3: about someone who knows that potential top ten pick? Yeah,
Speaker 3: in twelve months, it just seems wild.
Speaker 1: Nick, It's a glaring lack of self awareness. It's really bad.
Speaker 1: It's being discussed and I think it's the difference between
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