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Speaker 1: former NFL scout. Three and Out is his podcast. Everybody

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Speaker 1: always wants to know who wins the draft. I've had

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Speaker 1: the same formula as long as I can remember, and

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Speaker 1: I usually do it on the Monday after the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to project how great your fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: off season based on your free agent signings and your

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Speaker 1: first two or three picks, where I get more certainty.

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Speaker 1: I think the Chicago Bears are a completely different football team.

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Speaker 1: With Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Gerald Everett, Caleb Williams, and Romadnze.

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Speaker 1: That's a completely different offense. So if you're asking me

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Speaker 1: who won the offseason in terms of personnel, might take

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Speaker 1: his Chicago won't even look the same. I thought Green

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Speaker 1: Bay got better, but I don't think Chicago will even

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Speaker 1: look the same. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I listen, it's hard not to like Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I mean what they've done in the last twelve months.

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Speaker 2: I think that trade that Ryan Poles made It's got

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Speaker 2: all time. I mean it really does. Would like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and to get rid of basically they traded all that

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Speaker 2: for Bryce Young that if you could do a redo,

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Speaker 2: they would laugh in your face and Carolina would would

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Speaker 2: throw in picks to swap it back. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think the hype on Caleb, which is the nature of

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Speaker 2: this beast, the same thing happened to Trevor Lawrence. He

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Speaker 2: does not need to be immediately a superstar. He just

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Speaker 2: needs to be solid, right, and they should be good

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Speaker 2: because last year they could have been a playoff team

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Speaker 2: if their quarterback could have just functioned from the pocket,

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Speaker 2: couldn't function from the Now you add Keenan Allen and

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to do that much like he was the

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Speaker 2: that it felt like and he was a fantastic player,

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Speaker 2: but he gets to ease in. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people like Marvin Harrison, we talked about this last on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: has no choice anything less than eighty ninety catches. They're

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Speaker 2: So Rome, if he just has forty five to fifty catches,

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Speaker 2: maybe six touchdowns, you're awesome. Even though it's the ninth pick.

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Speaker 2: You'd like a little more. But given this team this year,

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Speaker 2: Keenan probably be only there one year. So next year

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Speaker 2: he takes a bigger jump. But they're not as dependent

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Speaker 1: They're also going to have a fourth place schedule, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the division's hard.

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Speaker 2: The division's hard. It might be the best division in football.

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Speaker 1: I think offensively, I've said this. I think last time

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't it a good example? Used Jason Light they

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Speaker 2: which I'm sure we'll talk about, is so important. But

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, like I think Green Bay is going

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Speaker 2: because that's really been the downfall of their operation, right

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Speaker 2: just and really goes back to McCarthy with some of

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Speaker 2: their great teams with Aaron Rodgers and listen, Mickveigh, what

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Speaker 2: do they do defense right away. Kyle Shanahan, what's he

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Speaker 2: always doing defense? They're all the top teams, even Dan

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Speaker 2: and they have explosive players. Jacobs, I think Josh take

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Speaker 2: a better player to take one Barkley. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: I don't know how good Sam Darnold's gonna be, but

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Speaker 2: it's just you better a lot of pressures on that higher.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got rid of Joe Berry, who was

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Speaker 2: his buddy. It wasn't going as well, not all his fault.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the players too, But they've invested. They have

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Speaker 2: invested a lot of picks, right, The Packers have on

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Speaker 1: What Jerry doesn't want to do is get trapped with

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. And I thought it was strategic. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was Jerry Jones saying, listen, we're gonna rely on you, Dak.

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Speaker 1: This here. We're not giving you all this Sammo. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna rebuild the offensive line. You'll get protection, but in

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Speaker 1: load you up with weapons. Dak's productions absolutely gonna come down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't have a running back of

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Speaker 1: note on the roster. And people could say, well, you're

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Speaker 1: tanking the year. They're not tanking the year they'll be

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Speaker 1: a good football team. But it felt strategic to me

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Speaker 1: to not address running back and really frankly not address

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Speaker 2: I'm torn because it's hard for me to be critical

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Speaker 2: when the ever you go offensive and defensive line early

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Speaker 2: in the draft, which they have, and they're a good

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Speaker 2: drafting team, bad running back draft. But let's face the

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Speaker 2: colin until they give him a contract extension, which they

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Speaker 2: should not. To me, this is him and McCarthy are

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Speaker 2: playing for their jobs. Yeah, I mean this guy, Let's

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Speaker 2: two out of three years, he was atrocious. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was really bad three years ago against the Niners

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Speaker 2: in this year in that first half in the game

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Speaker 2: was over. Wasn't all his fault, but he did not

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Speaker 2: play winning football. The price has gone up dramatically since

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Speaker 2: they gave him forty million dollars a year just because

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Speaker 2: the market right. So can you give Dak Prescott fifty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars a year?

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I underno, and I he's better than Tua, But I

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Speaker 2: say the same thing about Tua. If you're in that

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Speaker 2: a one and done playoff team. And the other thing is,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, the Eagles have a lot more talent

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Speaker 2: on their roster. Yeah, dramatically more top to bottom. We'll

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Speaker 2: take john look at a team.

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Speaker 1: Look at this, I mean aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Saquon

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Speaker 1: Barkley better at tight end and an athlete in their

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Speaker 1: right tackle. I don't think it's necessarily close. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you're being kind saying they have more talent.

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Speaker 1: I think it's lobsided in favor of Philly.

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Speaker 2: Well and if Michael Parson is the best defensive player

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Speaker 2: of the group, it's not like the Eagles haven't invested

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Speaker 2: in that side the last couple of years in the

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Speaker 2: draft with Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis. They just draft. They

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Speaker 2: get the top corner in this draft with Cooper Degen

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Speaker 2: They'll get rid of Brad Berry the Eagles, and now

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Speaker 2: you add Fangio and Kellen Moore to the mix because

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Speaker 2: last year their coaches really let him down. Like to me,

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Speaker 2: this is anything less like one takeaway after the draft

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Speaker 2: for the NFC East. I don't think the Giants are

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Speaker 2: very good. Washington's in this rebuild mode. The Eagles have

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Speaker 2: no excuse not to win this get that's right. I

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Speaker 2: mean last year they imploded, Dallas kind of lucked into

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Speaker 2: there should be a two or three game difference.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas is gonna be good. I'm talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought hardball was going to have there were going

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Speaker 2: So we can stop talking about that. But even the

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Speaker 2: Jim's not into this sexy football. He's not trying to

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Speaker 2: be you know, Lane Kiffin or Lincoln Riley. That's not

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Speaker 2: And I'm just honestly, if you would have told me

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Speaker 2: I would have believed you. I mean, that's not how

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Speaker 2: It's their weapons. Saint Brown's a fantastic player, but it

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Speaker 1: So I went and it was interesting. I went and

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Speaker 1: I went and looked at all my divisions. So we're

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Speaker 1: and I'll just do the first and last place teams

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Speaker 2: This is what you think coming up?

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Speaker 1: This was yeah, this season, I have Buffalo first, New

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about McVeigh because I thought he's a

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Speaker 1: This day, we loved him. Heard a month ago they

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Speaker 2: I said, what this Brandon Fisk guy, Brandon Fisk tell

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Speaker 2: He's a lot of stuff he does in football. I

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Speaker 2: with McCaffrey in the backfield. But we need to run.

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Speaker 2: We need to have wide receivers like a Yuk who

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Speaker 2: I can't scheme up every single play. We got guys

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Speaker 1: Right Yeah, And I think I also think you have

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Speaker 1: I look at the NFC and I think it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: couple different defensive linemen and the Florida State guy Fisk

430
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Speaker 1: is one of them. And then I felt Blake Cole.

431
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Speaker 1: I mean, I knew they loved Korum, but I mean

432
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Speaker 1: they when people got on them for giving up a

433
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Speaker 1: second round pick and a fifth to move up, they

434
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Speaker 1: really felt like they needed two starters in the defensive line,

435
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Speaker 1: a great backup running back for Kien Williams, and a

436
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Speaker 1: playmaking guy in the back. The Miami kid like they

437
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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of needs a lot of their

438
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Speaker 1: stuff after those picks, interior lineman Kicker. The Texas receivers

439
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: were the a special teams guy. Otherwise they would have

440
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Speaker 1: taken Taj Washington from USC they who they liked a lot,

441
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Speaker 1: but they needed a special teams guy. So I mean,

442
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of these teams come into the weekend,

443
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Speaker 1: the NFC teams, and the Rams are one of them.

444
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Speaker 1: I think people forget this for the elite teams, and

445
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Speaker 1: I consider the Rams in a group of about seven

446
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Speaker 1: or eight, they come in kind of thinking we need

447
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: two starters and like two really crucial productive backups. But

448
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: I've never had a problem John with giving away picks

449
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 1: to go get up and get a guy. Nick right

450
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Speaker 1: stops five, We'll chop it up. The playoffs have been

451
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: absolutely riveting. Can't turn it off of must have been

452
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: electric electric And then, by the way, this is the

453
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Speaker 1: first round. This is the worst I can look past.

454
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Speaker 1: So my take on I never mind people who are

455
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Speaker 1: a pushback contrarian, but I do feel you and I

456
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 1: are pretty honest about Yeah, it was either wrong or

457
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: I can I can literally think two things. Load management

458
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: pisses me off, and the NBA is great. It's just

459
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Speaker 1: not great. In January, well.

460
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Speaker 3: And things there are the everything has become. It feels

461
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Speaker 3: so tribal, Yes that it is. Everything is the way

462
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: the way a die hard fan of a specific sports team,

463
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Speaker 3: the way a die hard fan of Alabama football roots

464
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Speaker 3: for Alabama football is basically how a huge percentage of

465
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: people deal with every aspect of their life. I fucking

466
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: love it, so everything about it is correct, and anyone

467
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: criticizing it is wrong, as opposed to any type of

468
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Speaker 3: I love this, didn't like this, this is good, This

469
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: is bad. Anyone that acts as if the NBA folks

470
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: who've been like NBA is dying, you know that is baby.

471
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: You know it's obviously not true. Anybody though, acting as

472
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Speaker 3: if that there aren't aspects to the the overwhelming and

473
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Speaker 3: what is about to be under the new TV deal

474
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars a year contracts that complicate a

475
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Speaker 3: lot of the day to day factors of the league.

476
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: They're being intellectually dishonest in my opinion. I also, I

477
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: do think and I maybe have mentioned this to you.

478
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: I know I mentioned it on my pod. But I

479
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: do think the NBA made a strategic error this season.

480
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tell I'm gonna do a Colin Coward

481
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: in a bit, I'm gonna give an anecdote or a story.

482
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Speaker 3: It'll get there. So a guy who you know, I'm

483
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: sure Connor Shll Yeah. So you know he you know,

484
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: used to be run It was a big executive at ESPN,

485
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: helped start thirty for thirties. Now he runs a company

486
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: of his own. Oddly, his father and my mom worked

487
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Speaker 3: together when I was a little kid, so I knew

488
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Speaker 3: Connor is a little kid, and I never really knew

489
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Speaker 3: exactly what his dad did. And maybe I'm wrong, but

490
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: as a little kid, what it was described to me

491
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Speaker 3: as he was in charge of long term strategy, meaning

492
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 3: like when Sprint came out with a new phone, his

493
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: job would be like, Okay, when this phone is bordering

494
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Speaker 3: on obsolete, how are we gonna sell the last hundred

495
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Speaker 3: of them? You know what I mean? Like long, long,

496
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Speaker 3: short thinking. And I think the NBA needed someone in

497
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: that role eighteen months ago to say, guys, here is

498
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Speaker 3: all of NBA history and ages of guys on their

499
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Speaker 3: last playoff run. Are is it on the board that

500
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: we just had the final Lebron Deep Playoffs, STEPH Deep Playoffs,

501
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Durant Deep playoffs, these guys. Is it possible, in fact

502
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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly likely, that one, two, or all of them aren't

503
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Speaker 3: going to be around when the calendar turns to May.

504
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Speaker 3: If so, is it worthwhile for us to take a

505
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Speaker 3: short term regular season ratings hit by featuring the Oklahoma

506
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 3: City Thunder, the Minnesota Timberwolves, these teams to prime the

507
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Speaker 3: audience that this is where our league's going. And they

508
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: didn't do that. Instead it was Warriors, Lakers, Suns these guys.

509
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if this second round of the playoffs,

510
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: when you have Nuggets, Timberwolves, and when you have Thunder,

511
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: maybe MAVs, if people are gonna see a ratings dip.

512
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 3: It won't affect the new TV contract all of that,

513
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: But because the audience doesn't know this is their league now, Colin,

514
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: if the Bucks lose this series, they're down three to two.

515
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Speaker 3: And if the Clippers lose this series, the oldest star

516
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Speaker 3: player left in the playoffs, Luca is no, not Luke,

517
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Speaker 3: Kyrie is Kyrie who's thirty just turned thirty two. That everyone,

518
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: everyone will be gone like Joker, who's twenty eight or

519
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: twenty nine will be like the third oldest star left.

520
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Speaker 3: The Clippers are all old guys. They're on the I

521
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Speaker 3: think gonna lose. The Lakers are already out. The Warriors

522
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Speaker 3: didn't make it, the Suns are out, the Bucks are

523
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Speaker 3: on the brink. Like this is a massive storming of

524
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: the gates of the twenty somethings. But everyone should have

525
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: expected it. When Kobe Bryant's last playoff game ever, he

526
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Speaker 3: was thirty two. Michael Jordan was thirty five, Like, the

527
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: guys don't play if people saw what Lebron did, so

528
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Speaker 3: they thought Stephen Durant and Kawhi and Paul George are

529
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Speaker 3: gonna do it. Nobody else is gonna do it. Stephan

530
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: kd already exceeded age expectation. So I think the NBA

531
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Speaker 3: made a mistake there. I also think my favorite two

532
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Speaker 3: months of the year are the NBA playoffs. Ye, my

533
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Speaker 3: favorite twenty days of the year or my twenty NFL Sundays,

534
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Speaker 3: and my favorite two months of the year of the

535
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Speaker 3: NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. Last weekend, the draft of the

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Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs is the best non NFL Weekend of the

538
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Speaker 1: Year by far. I just I didn't leave my place

539
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Speaker 1: the whole damn weekend. I thought it was that was

540
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Speaker 1: just draft playoffs, Draft twelve good.

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Speaker 3: I think you can make an argument the Giants won

542
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Speaker 3: the draft because New England didn't take their trade. It's

543
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Speaker 3: reported yesterday that the Giants offered six and next year's

544
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Speaker 3: number one for the third pick, and I'm like, oh,

545
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Speaker 3: so they hoped to draft Drake May at three, not

546
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Speaker 3: add any weapons in the first round, to trade the

547
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Speaker 3: pick and have Drake May, a twenty one year old

548
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Speaker 3: with high upside, but who was a radic at North

549
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: Carolina at put him behind that offensive line with those weapons.

550
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Speaker 3: Guess what I think that they done, That they'd be

551
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Speaker 3: drafting number one next year and they'd be sending it

552
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Speaker 3: to New England like Carolina just did. Like the fact

553
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Speaker 3: that the Giants now have next year's number one. This year,

554
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe Drew Lock plays, maybe Daniel Jones plays,

555
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Speaker 3: but at least he has a weapon, and then next

556
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Speaker 3: year you try to go find your quarterback. That I

557
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Speaker 3: think New England turning that trade down was a bit

558
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Speaker 3: of a mistake. They'll regret. I think that you could

559
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Speaker 3: have gone on to six, gotten Giants number one next year,

560
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Speaker 3: and at six, we know Minnesota is willing to give

561
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Speaker 3: you eleven and twenty three, so you could have had

562
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Speaker 3: eleven and twenty three to add players, your first rounder

563
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Speaker 3: and the Giants first rounder next year, start Jakobe for

564
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Speaker 3: a season, and then that's what I would have done

565
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: it for for in New England. But New England's GM

566
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Speaker 3: was auditioning for his job. He doesn't even have it yet,

567
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Speaker 3: and the owners that I want a quarterback, so I

568
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Speaker 3: guess he's gonna draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I had an executive in the league said, if you're

570
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Speaker 1: the Giants, you are rooting for Bryce Young and Will

571
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Speaker 1: Levis because then the only other team that's guaranteed to

572
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Speaker 1: take a quarterback is the Raiders. So somebody said he said,

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Speaker 1: he said to me, you are rooting for that. Let

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Speaker 1: hit point and Bryce Young to hit if you're the Giants,

575
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Speaker 1: because then it's like us and the Raiders need quarterbacks

576
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Speaker 1: and they'll be two good prospects. You know, Shador Sanders,

577
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Speaker 1: the kid cam Ward at Miami, who's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: There's a kids at Day.

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Speaker 1: You've got a transfer who's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: No, and I the win yours people like him. And

581
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Speaker 3: then there's one more that we're forgetting. That's the guy

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Speaker 3: who's most likely to go number one. I talked about

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Speaker 3: on the show today, so I see if I can

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Speaker 3: remember it. But the I was just about to look, like,

585
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Speaker 3: hold on a second, who are the teams that could.

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Speaker 1: Titans Giants?

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Speaker 3: Well, Carson Beck is the other one, the kid from

588
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Speaker 3: Georgia that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a top five pick. I think

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Speaker 1: he's Georgia good.

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Speaker 3: I think you're probably right. But the if you look

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Speaker 3: at I was gonna look through the NFL like teams

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Speaker 3: that you know, Buffalo, no, Miami, No. The Jets are

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Speaker 3: a maybe if Aaron gets hurt, if Aaron gets hurt,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? The Jets are a maybe.

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Speaker 3: New England No, Baltimore. Cleveland is a maybe. I don't

597
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. They're and I mean that's a

598
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Speaker 3: rough spot, man, uh but Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh's a maybe.

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00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of maybees. But there's not a

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Speaker 3: lot of definites to your point, like the because everybody

601
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Speaker 3: when six quarterback going round one, everybody thinks they have

602
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: a quarterback. You know what I mean, like there's just

603
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Speaker 3: the you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, sorry, and they'll at least give those quarterbacks

605
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Speaker 1: till Thanksgiving of the second year. And so this executive said,

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Speaker 1: the bottom line, if you're the Giants, he said, I

607
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: don't think will Levis is gonna work. He said, I

608
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: think Bryce will. He liked Bryce. He said, Bryce is talented.

609
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Speaker 1: He's not as big as you'd like, but they got

610
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Speaker 1: him weapons, they got him a really good wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Bryce will move the chains. They'll stick with him.

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Speaker 1: But he said, the Giants and the Raiders, that's it

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Speaker 1: that you're absolutely and neither one's going to be any good.

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Speaker 1: He said, so those are those are your top two

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Speaker 1: potential picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for one of those teams, Tom Brady probably.

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Speaker 1: Played for him, so they don't won't need to Why not?

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Speaker 3: I mean the he wants to play football so badly,

619
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Speaker 3: Like I get it. The I mean, I I don't

620
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: blame him. That. Did you see Lebron's quote? Lebron had

621
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Speaker 3: a quote after the game that I thought was so fascinating.

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Speaker 3: It was also almost a little sad, and it made

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Speaker 3: me think of Brady to a degree where Lebron said,

624
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Speaker 3: I think to Dave mcmannimon along the lines of I'm

625
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: never gonna be bad, so, but at some point I'm

626
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to stop. And he basically said, like, you know,

627
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm not chasing anything anymore. I've accomplished everything I wanted

628
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: to accomplish, but at some point I've got to stop playing.

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Speaker 3: And it was such a unique thing because I watched it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he's never gonna be I mean, I

631
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Speaker 3: never's a long time obviously, but I think five years

632
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: from now Lebron would be good. I do. I like,

633
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: I know, you know what I mean. Right now, what

634
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: is he at best the sixth best player in the

635
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: league and at worst the twelfth best player in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's somewhere in there. He you know what I mean,

637
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: he lives. He's better, in my opinion, clearly than Devin Booker.

638
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: And Devin Booker's an all NBA guy.

639
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: He led the NBA in fourth quarter buckets and playoff

640
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: bucket right.

641
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: So, and he played seventy one games. So it's such

642
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: a unique spot for Lebron, which is like most guys

643
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Speaker 3: get forced out. Most guys they you know what I mean,

644
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: they have their fair their averaging five points a game,

645
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Speaker 3: So he's not gonna be that. So at some point

646
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Speaker 3: he's just gonna have to be like, I guess I'm done.

647
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm stopping. And that's kind of what happened with Tom.

648
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: Like I understand the Bucks were not good Tom's last year,

649
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: but the year before he almost won MVP. He still

650
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: grew for a million yards.

651
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Speaker 1: He's better than half the quarterbacks today easily, no question,

652
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: no question.

653
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Speaker 3: And he just stopped. And there's I understand that there

654
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: was families some of New Zealand. I get it, but

655
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: I think every time someone puts a microphone in front

656
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: of him, he clearly is like, goddamn it, I want

657
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: to play football. I missed playing football. And you know

658
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna be with Fox and calling games and maybe

659
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: that'll scratch the itch, but it also might make him

660
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: watch these guys and be like, god, dog it, I'm

661
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: better than that guy, you know, And so like it's

662
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: a weird spot. We're seeing two guys Lebron nearing the

663
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: end and Brady who just ended, who played longer than

664
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Speaker 3: anybody ever in the history of their field and at

665
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: a higher level than anyone ever thought, who both you know,

666
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: Brady already had to and Lebron's gonna have to We're

667
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: gonna have to oddly make the decision of like I

668
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: guess I just should stop because I'm old, but I'm

669
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: not bad, and it's such a weird thing, like people

670
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: are like, Oh, John Elway went out on top. John

671
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: Elway went out winning super Bowls, but he was not

672
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: good anymore, like you know what I mean. I'm not

673
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: disrespecting John, but like the he was, he was a

674
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: shell of the player that he was. Peyton Manning went

675
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: out winning a Super Bowl, was nine touchdown, seventeen picks

676
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 3: that year. Was a shell. But even the guys who

677
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: go out on top are usually not good anymore. So

678
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean. The Brady

679
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: seems to still miss it. I don't know what Lebron's

680
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: gonna do.

681
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: Brady is I can I I'll probably get in trouble

682
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: saying this, But Brady his preparation for broadcasting at Fox. Dude,

683
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: he he's in the building today. You're not gonna get

684
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: in trouble for he was in the building today, the

685
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: last the next three days, he's in the building practicing.

686
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Like Brady is as obsessed about this. People don't understand

687
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: the people.

688
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be great. I think he's gonna

689
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: be great because he's competitive. Yes, I think that is.

690
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: I think the key to so much of this is competitive. Yes.

691
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: And I think that there is the Tom had And

692
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't know Tom at all, but he had recently

693
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: in the last year he did an interview and he

694
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: was talking about during the game and was basically about

695
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: how like he hated who he was playing against, like

696
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: he would build up an anger and like the real

697
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: like Frauth. Because he's a competitive And now I think

698
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: he's going to look around and be like, I need

699
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: to be better. And it helps that most of the

700
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 3: other people in his spot are quarterbacks too. I need

701
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: to be better than Troy. I need to be better

702
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: than Tony. I know Collins, it's not a quarterback, but

703
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: I need to. I think he's gonna want to be

704
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: considered the best. And there was always you remember God,

705
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: it feels like a lifetime ago. But during when the

706
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: Flategate happened and Tom unfairly at his text messages leaked

707
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: and the text message to his I think it was

708
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: his dad, maybe it was his friend about Peyton. Yeah,

709
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: and they were to draw about back and forth, and

710
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: Tom said, He's like, yeah, but I'm gonna play five

711
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: more years and Peyton's done, and then it's not even

712
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: going to be a debate. And by the way, he

713
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: was right about that. That's exactly what happened. But I

714
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: also think there's like competitiveness with Peyton, which is Peyton's

715
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: a broadcaster, you know what I mean, and everybody, unlike

716
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: some of the other broadcasters, none of the Blooms everybody.

717
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I think that broadcast is great. People love it. I

718
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be like, I'm gonna crush these guys. Yeah,

719
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I really do so. I bet he's gonna

720
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: be awesome.

721
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: I think about this a lot because I do criticize

722
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: athletes at times about how remarkable athletes are. So if

723
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: you look at the history of comedy, you get to

724
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: be the funniest guy in the world for about three

725
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: to five years. Ben Stiller, Jim Carrey, there was Drew

726
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Carey twenty five years ago. Mike Myers.

727
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: By the way, he's very charitable to include Ben Stiller

728
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: on the funniest Guy. He's worldless. He's pretty good, pretty good.

729
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Maybe he's a friend I don't know who

730
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: you're having drinks with, but go ahead.

731
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: So if you go look at you know, Chris rock A,

732
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, David you know where you're sort of spell Chappelle. Yeah, so,

733
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: and then it's very hard to be as funny because

734
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: your life experience changes dramatically because there's so much money

735
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: in movies and production when you get.

736
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Speaker 3: Big, that's right.

737
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course hip hop stars similarly, first couple albums

738
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: can be fantastic and then the material changes hard.

739
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

740
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Speaker 1: Athletes, what's really amazing is athletes are almost the opposite.

741
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes is better since he's been paid, Lebron was better

742
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: when he was paid. Is that athletes, unlike other entertainers,

743
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: often feel a guilt or a pressure to elevate their

744
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: greatness when they're paid. It's very rare when you look

745
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: at athletes. They get paid, and I'm sure it happens,

746
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: but I'm.

747
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: Told it not to the great ones. That's between the

748
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: great ones and everyone else, because I think that when

749
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: you talk about getting paid, but I think that at

750
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: every step of your athletic journey, there has been a

751
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: getting paid, but the not actually money moment where you

752
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 3: could relax you know what I mean, The kid who,

753
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: when he makes varsity as a freshman takes his foot

754
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: off the gas doesn't get the college scholarship. And the

755
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: kid who, when he goes to college is a starter

756
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: early on and takes far off the gas doesn't make

757
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: the league. So it almost you know what I mean,

758
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: It slowly, but surely weeds. It weeds those people out

759
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: because it's such a finite number and there's always a

760
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: new crop of people coming for those jobs.

761
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Also, is that in hip hop, when you win, you're

762
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: worshiped by everybody. In comedy, when you're the king of laughs,

763
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: you are worshiped by everybody. In sports, when you win,

764
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: most of the league hates you. So in sports, greatness

765
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: does not equal worship outside of your town. It equals

766
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: kind of a villain, kind of a target. And and

767
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: that's why music critics tend to be too soft and

768
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: and and you know, movie critics are you know, they

769
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: they're they're too in bed with them music and movie

770
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: critics in Hollywood. When's the last really tough reporter that

771
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Hollywood had? They don't. So it goes to your head

772
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: in music, and it doesn't work that way. But the

773
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: media in sports kicks the shit out of you. Once

774
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: you're great. It's like, well, you weren't good last week

775
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. And there's there's a healthy there's a healthy

776
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: account ability that doesn't exist in comedy, movies, music. This

777
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: accountability standings criticism that I think actually, it's like being

778
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: tough on your kids. It builds character.

779
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: So I think you might have just solved. Might not

780
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: be the right word, but you just said something that

781
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: really crystallized something for me. Okay, we might have just like,

782
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: I feel like this is a real thing that just

783
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: happened because you talk, you're talking about them between athletes

784
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: and artists. Yeah, And I'm not taking I'm really not

785
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: trying to be unfair or take a shot. But there

786
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: are two specific NBA players that I think, as great

787
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: as they are, have markedly underachieved their talent and ability,

788
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: even though they are. One of them's one of the

789
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: twenty greatest players ever and one of them is one

790
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: of the ten most skilled players ever. And I think

791
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: both of them view themselves more artists than athletes. And

792
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: those two guys are heaven Rant and Kyrie Era, and

793
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: I think a lot of what has worked against them

794
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: and a lot of what they have pushed against is

795
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: that they are covered like their athletes and not like

796
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: their artists. That it is a lot of criticism and

797
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: a lot of why did you do this, and a

798
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: lot of but you didn't do that, and comparative stuff

799
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: that athletes are used to. But they're like, we're fucking artists, man,

800
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: I am out here painting a picture and you're asking

801
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: me these questions, like, just appreciate the art. Meanwhile, other

802
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: folks who look at themselves as I don't want to say,

803
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: hired guns, but we are in competition and we are

804
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: here to win and toe, you know, to do what

805
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: we have to do, haven't been as bothered by the

806
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: media criticism. But it does Katie and Kyrie who and

807
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: again Kyrie, to his credit, has been unbelievable this year,

808
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: and Katie post Achilles is the best Achilles recovery in

809
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: sports history. So I'm not trying to be unfair. It

810
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: really is. I'm not trying to be unfair and I

811
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: aren't trying to take a shot, but they really seem

812
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: to both struggle with the way they are covered by

813
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: the media and what you just described about how artists,

814
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: musicians or actors or comedians are covered by the media

815
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: is different than how we do athletes. We don't do

816
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: when a movie six, when there is a huge movie

817
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: release weekend. When Barbie and Oppenheimer come out the same weekend,

818
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: there were no articles written like, well, fucking Oppenheimer, how

819
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: do you not win that? People are just like this

820
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: was awesome. This was even more awesome. These are both great.

821
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: It's and so that I do. I think there is

822
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: something there and maybe I can describe it exactly right,

823
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: but about the difference between how athletes and artists are discussed,

824
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: and whether or not you consider yourself an athlete or

825
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: an artist, and how you want to then be discussed

826
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: in how you feel you should be discussed.

827
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Speaker 1: I also think basketball more than any sport, and soccer

828
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: has some of this as well. I've always compared basketball

829
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: to international soccer. Messi is an artist, Rinaldo is an artist.

830
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is an artist. Tom Brady's a football player,

831
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: right like Mike Trout's a baseball player. That's different.

832
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: But I think Lebron's an artist.

833
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: No, No, he's more compartmentalized and strategic artists, aren't they

834
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of hear? I mean very much Lebron's a stacker.

835
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Compartmentalize work on this part of the game, solve this part.

836
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's not looking to solve. Kyrie Irving's not looking

837
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: to solve parts their game. They're looking to paint their

838
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: most beautiful picture. Kyrie had it the other night with

839
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: that layup over three Clippers.

840
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly right, like that kind even though they

841
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: that kind of was and there is something beautiful about

842
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: this and we're honorable about it, where it's like that

843
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: Kyrie has worked for He's thirty two, so call it

844
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: twenty five years on every little bit of his ability

845
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: in order to pull off that one moment. And I

846
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: know he's obviously on way more than that, but I'm

847
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: saying like that that was of physics and basketball impossibility.

848
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: It was incredible. It was it was his mona, Lisa,

849
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: it was his.

850
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right, it was, And it was like, oh,

851
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: you are probably literally the only human being who's ever

852
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: lived who could do that. Like I believe that. I

853
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: really believe that. Yeah, And I think there's for Kyrie.

854
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: He's like in God, damn it, you guys still credit.

855
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: Like do you not see it?

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Speaker 3: Like do you not understand, but because it's sports, we're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you're lost and you haven't been in the finals

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Speaker 3: in eight years because it's sports, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 3: do think there is I want to think about this

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Speaker 3: more because you said it in real time, but I

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Speaker 3: do think there is something really to that, and I

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Speaker 3: think there is. I'm going to start like looking at

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Speaker 3: because you know, another guy who I think was as

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Speaker 3: much as you can be in football, closer to artists

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Speaker 3: than an athlete, is my Palodell. I think there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of like, look at this show I am

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Speaker 3: putting on. Look at what I can do that I

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Speaker 3: have worked on and honed, and the beauty of it

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Speaker 3: and then all. But he he's also a guy who

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Speaker 3: never felt he was given a fair shake by the media,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, who never felt it was

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Speaker 3: that it was that he was covered fairly.

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Speaker 1: I called an NFL head coach on Will Levis's combine

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Speaker 1: when he was wearing a shirtless yes ripped. It was

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Speaker 1: very Brady Quinn and I said, I'm out on him,

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Speaker 1: and he goes call this NFL head coach successful coach,

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Speaker 1: he said, Colin. It was the talk of a road

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Speaker 1: trip me and the GM went on recently. It was

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Speaker 1: the talk of the he cares deeply about his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: was beautiful. He's a good looking guy, big man on

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Speaker 1: campus in Kentucky at basketball school. He's the football star

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Speaker 1: Will Levis's I'm going to show you my build literally

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Speaker 1: a successful GM and coach said they went on a

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Speaker 1: drive and that it was the topic of conversation like

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Speaker 1: he's got the wrong priorities.

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Speaker 3: On that note, and we can, you know, leave it

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Speaker 3: at this. I am shocked. So I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw this reporting, but Spencer Rattler evidently was on

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Speaker 3: a Netflix dock six years ago when he was in

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Speaker 3: high school. Did you see any of this comment? Okay,

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Speaker 3: so there was a Lebron's company produced a Netflix documentary

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Speaker 3: called QB one, and it was basically they followed around

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Speaker 3: I didn't see it some top high school quarterback prospects

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Speaker 3: on their journey, you know what I mean? Like, what's

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Speaker 3: it like to be one of the top prospects in America?

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Speaker 3: Is a sixteen year old? Sixteen And evidently Spencer Rattler

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Speaker 3: was a real dick as a kid, was mean to

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Speaker 3: his backup quarterback, was a bit of a bully, was

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Speaker 3: kind of like your stereotypical, mean, popular jock, and Ian

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Speaker 3: Rappaport reported that multiple teams brought it up to him

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Speaker 3: before the draft, like yeah, we just we and it's like, dude,

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Speaker 3: this guy was literally sixteen years old, Like I don't know, man, Like,

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Speaker 3: please don't use against me in a job interview how

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Speaker 3: I treated, Like come on, And so here's why I

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Speaker 3: bring that up. I don't even care about Spencer Ratler

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Speaker 3: in that art. I am shocked no one has talked

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Speaker 3: about what Shador Sanders and to be fair, Dion have

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Speaker 3: been doing these last couple of days, just punching down

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Speaker 3: in guys that left the school. And if you're Dion,

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Speaker 3: and I have massive respect for Dion in general, but

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Speaker 3: if you're Dion, it's like, man, this guy was one

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Speaker 3: of your players, and you're like where your stats at?

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Speaker 3: Like you are one of the most famous athlete coaches

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Speaker 3: in America and this is a twenty year old Like

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Speaker 3: that doesn't seem right. But then Shador, like, buddy, people

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Speaker 3: are talking about use the number one pick of the

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Speaker 3: draft and you're on Twitter just shit talking guys like

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine that's not gonna be a problem in

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Speaker 3: a year. Oh, I just can't.

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Speaker 1: It's already been discussed. It's absolutely being discussed in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good look at all.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think. I just I think, like, listen,

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Speaker 3: any position other than quarterback, I don't think people would care.

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Speaker 3: Same Travis Hunter, who's going to be a top ten

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Speaker 3: pick on Colorada.

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Speaker 1: I almost like it from an edge rusher. I want

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Speaker 1: you to be obnoxious, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that it's certainly a corner like there are

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Speaker 3: a certain spot, you know what I mean, Like Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 3: like corner wide receiver. It's like, Okay, the guy's a

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Speaker 3: little out of his mind, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know, talks in the third person. Great love it.

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Speaker 3: I've actually seen that archetype go to the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: fair or not. And again I'm not even saying it's right.

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Speaker 3: What I am saying is if Spencer Rattler can fall

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Speaker 3: a full round as Rap Report was talking about because

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Speaker 3: of how he acted as a junior in high school, yeah,

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Speaker 3: then what are these same teams going to be saying

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Speaker 3: about someone who knows that potential top ten pick? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in twelve months, it just seems wild.

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Speaker 1: Nick, It's a glaring lack of self awareness. It's really bad.

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Speaker 1: It's being discussed and I think it's the difference between

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Speaker 1: going one and fifteen the volume. Thanks so much for listening.

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