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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to this episode.

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Speaker 2: Will keep it positive, sweetie, guys, Today I have my baby,

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Speaker 2: the one, the only, Eva, Marcel and even first, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for.

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Speaker 3: Coming, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 3: I cannot be more excited and proud of this journey.

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Speaker 3: It is exactly what the people need. It is feeding,

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Speaker 3: it is yummy, it is nutritious. So thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me.

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Speaker 1: On the cast. Thank you so much. Thank you. To

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Speaker 1: start the death, I want to start for you to

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Speaker 1: start with a song or a quotes. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do a quote.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, I should have son, but my listen,

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Speaker 2: I've lost my voice.

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Speaker 3: It's gone impossible. You can't lose your It's in there.

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Speaker 3: It is in there, there, deep in there. God, those

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Speaker 3: gifts on the third Road in the tennessation tanto.

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Speaker 1: Over here, Yes, Tenaltas.

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Speaker 2: But you said once, you said, I've learned that I

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Speaker 2: can only live for myself. I cannot focus on the

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Speaker 2: world's idea of who they think I am or who.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. I can only be the best me.

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Speaker 2: And if that means that even though I'm eligible and

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Speaker 2: should be in a relationship, maybe I shouldn't be right now.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not emotionally available. Baby. First of all, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about you are.

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Speaker 2: Very confident, like you don't care about what anybody thinks.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I first was introduced to EVA, it

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Speaker 2: was America's next time model, and you were just so fearless.

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Speaker 2: You were a matter of fact, don't take no shit.

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Speaker 2: And now that I know you, I'm like, that is

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Speaker 2: literally that is who she is. Oh my goodness. So

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Speaker 2: just tell me a little bit about your journ I

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Speaker 2: know you grew up in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in south central Los Angeles, which

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Speaker 3: is very different than like the West Corridor. I'm not

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Speaker 3: from a whole lot of money, from very meager beginnings,

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Speaker 3: but I was raised by an extremely smart mother. She

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Speaker 3: She was very unapologetically black. She was the lady with

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Speaker 3: the nose ringing and afro at work. No one else

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And my father is a jazz musician.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And so growing up in a musically inclined family along

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Speaker 3: never be handed to her. She had to take it.

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Speaker 1: Wow And being the only.

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Speaker 3: Girl three brothers growing up in South Central I didn't

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Speaker 3: put your shirt on, and I'm like, but my brothers

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Speaker 3: aren't wearing shirts, Like, no, you're not like them. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you're not like them. You are different and you are unique.

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Speaker 3: You can't do what they do. And that was my

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Speaker 3: else does because you're not like everyone else, and accepting

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Speaker 3: that because sometimes you just want to be a part

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Speaker 3: But sometimes you learn or I learned, that it's not

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Speaker 3: for one person. It's God's purpose and whatever purpose he

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Speaker 3: has for me, I use that in my day. So

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Speaker 3: if it's a person I meet at a bar, if

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Speaker 1: Myself, I've had to be very selective.

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Speaker 3: About absolutely because people will always have opinions, but their

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Speaker 3: opinions don't define me. They can't.

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Speaker 1: I love that seeking of opinions.

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Speaker 2: I remember on America's Naga Sibe model, you were very

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, that Eva the diva. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes a little caddies Yes. When you look back at

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Speaker 2: you were like nineteen, how were you then?

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Speaker 1: That's eighteen you had.

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Speaker 2: Even at that young age, you were like you owned it,

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Speaker 3: So I was going to Clark Atlanta University while I

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Speaker 3: did America's next Top Model, Wow, clarktlanda university which used

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Speaker 3: to be Clark College, home of w Eb the Boys.

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Speaker 3: Our school's motto is find a way or make one.

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Speaker 3: That is what life is. Yeah, you find your way

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Speaker 3: coming to Atlanta being in school.

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Speaker 1: You know, you get compared to all the other women.

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand what a shouty red it was you

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Speaker 3: But he expressed that He's like, you look good, but

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Speaker 3: to you know, t girls are in or you two Petita,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna determine who I am, so I can't listen

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Speaker 3: York swag, you got it from Texas, you got even California.

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Speaker 3: Hyphie and we keep it relaxed. But it's very different.

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Speaker 3: So deciding who I was and going on the journey

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Speaker 3: of discovering who I was was very important to me.

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Speaker 3: While I learned my blackness in college, and then you

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Speaker 1: Same time, how did that even come about? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Top Models origin story is crazy. So I used to

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Speaker 3: have money. So because of that, I figured I'd make

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Speaker 3: to do. So in school, not boasting, but if I

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Speaker 3: And I remember one Saturday girl coming up to me

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Speaker 3: in me jolted. Something in me was like, what is

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Speaker 3: this thing about? So I researched it. The next audition

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not make this up.

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Speaker 3: We did not have a hotel room or what my

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Speaker 1: Wow. So I'm sitting down.

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Speaker 3: I'll never remember. I was on my thirty three, put

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Speaker 3: first group. It was one through forty. I stand up

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Speaker 3: said say your name and tell me where we first

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Speaker 3: So I was like, oh lord, I ain't trying to

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Speaker 1: How am I gonna answer this?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I said, whoa, I first saw you in Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: Because I did. Technically they didn't see me.

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Speaker 3: I saw them. I first saw you in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 3: they did an audition. I remember they asked. They asked

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Speaker 3: this guy It's like, hey, this is Ian from America's

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Speaker 3: That's Time Model, And I thought it was my brother,

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Speaker 3: So I hung up the phone even I hung up

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Speaker 1: He gonna call it back.

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Speaker 3: Listen because I blessing called back and Ian goes, hey,

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Speaker 3: Now he wasn't as enthusiastic this time. He wasn't like

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Speaker 1: From Top Model.

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Speaker 3: We want you to come to Los Angeles for the

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Speaker 3: semifinal rounds. I need you to do to have a

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Speaker 3: cam quorder and record yourself when we make the next

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Speaker 3: phone call.

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Speaker 1: I'm broke. What's the camp quarter? Was? Even were camera

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Speaker 3: Thousand and one? Oh yeah, so no we all had

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Speaker 3: psychics chirping, you know what I mean? It was it

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Speaker 3: was then. So I remember my friend Noel use his

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Speaker 3: dad's credit card, went and got a cam quorder, recorded

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Speaker 3: But gotta do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: But he recorded me.

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Speaker 3: And next thing I know, I had a ticket to

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Speaker 3: FLA it's not just winning the show. It is showing

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Speaker 1: Clearly why not? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I love that Tyra took a chance on me,

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Speaker 1: Then she managed me. Why I did not know that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm the only person Tyra, how many people you did,

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense because I was going

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Speaker 1: Like, what was that adjustment? Like? And I guess Tyrol

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Speaker 3: Tyra helped me be selective about my career choices. She

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Speaker 3: She taught me that less was more in everything, hair, makeup, clothing, Less,

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Speaker 1: Use your gifts.

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Speaker 3: I have a gift of fashion, and in a fashion business,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the only one that's.

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Speaker 3: Always, always, always, always been there always. That's so I

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Speaker 3: And I didn't think I was ready for this business.

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Speaker 3: But I think more so this business didnt think they

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Speaker 1: Maybe because what Yes, so I think that's.

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Speaker 3: More so what it is is that I was dropped

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Speaker 3: God allows, what He has for you He has. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: My mom always taught me God has three answers. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: So I just figured out which one was my yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: It's always always worked, and it's always if it's a no,

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Speaker 2: it's always something better, it's always something You'll be.

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Speaker 1: Grateful that they didn't have me, like, oh, thank god God.

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Speaker 3: But we forced our way so much. You try to

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Speaker 3: leaning into being black was my joy.

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Speaker 2: Wow, because you are unapologetically black.

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Speaker 1: Come from your mother.

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Speaker 3: Because you talk about my mother and my father are

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Speaker 3: So don't I'll get a twisted with this big black

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Speaker 3: We shopped at stores only that were owned by black

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Speaker 3: that that is my power.

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Speaker 1: It is I see it, and.

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Speaker 3: I love being black. I love motivating other black and

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Speaker 3: times we get an opportunity and we get to a

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Speaker 3: it can go in there. No no, no, no, no, that's not

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Speaker 3: the key. The key is now to usher and more

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Speaker 2: Talk about because people do that, they do, they do.

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Speaker 2: They're like, okay, now, now I made it this way.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's not what it is. What it is

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Speaker 3: is now my nine year old daughter who went to

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Speaker 3: in that. You know, Yes, I'm thirty eight. I remember

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Speaker 3: eight thirty years ago we tried to push your hair down,

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Speaker 3: not be who we truly are in life, who God

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Speaker 3: intended us to be. So I stopped apologizing for being bold,

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Speaker 3: for being inquisitive, for being.

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Speaker 1: Outspoken, for being happy.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that everybody want to be serious all.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy you are coming out, you know, I just joy? Yes, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So me I'm being unapologetically black. It definitely comes from

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: How does that translate when it comes to business, because

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Speaker 2: I know as a woman it's hard to navigate this

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Speaker 2: industry and you've made some amazing boss moves. Tell me

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Speaker 2: some of those things, some of the roadblocks or things

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Speaker 3: The cap on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, being in this business, being a minority is already

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Speaker 3: difficult being a woman. There is an expectation that not

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Speaker 3: because I'm way smarter than I am pretty, and mama's

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Speaker 3: kep endious, So your brains.

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Speaker 1: You gotta lead with your brains.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when it comes to was the initial question.

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Speaker 1: How have you navigate it being a woman?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so that you're that I am smarter than I

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Speaker 3: am pretty, that I deserve everything on this table, if

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Speaker 3: for the business. They need me as much as I

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Speaker 3: need that dollar. Yeah, and I can go find a

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Speaker 3: dollar somewhere else, but you're never gonna find another me.

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Speaker 3: So that's the power of my negotiation, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Like if I say no, so cool, you

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Speaker 3: got a huge bag. Say it's a two million dollar

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Speaker 3: deal on the table, but you know you should get four.

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Speaker 1: You know you should get four.

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Speaker 3: Even though two is good, you know you should get four.

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Speaker 3: You say, no, They're gonna leave that money on the table.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna leave that money on the table. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna pick up this other money because the bag that

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Speaker 3: is for me is for me.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Find another me. And then strength isn't knowing that, and

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Speaker 3: so sometimes you have to say no. One of my

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Speaker 3: old managers, Jerome Martin, I remember young in my career,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, which you mean no, we're not leavings?

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Speaker 1: You mean no that it seems like an easy job

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Speaker 1: to me. I can do it. I'm like, should we

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Speaker 1: gonna leave this? So you should? Yes, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Exactly like your Donora.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what God.

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Speaker 3: Blessed me with the donors of the world that said, no,

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Speaker 3: baby girl, you're worth more. You're worth more, and learning

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Speaker 3: that worth you pull up. I remember my radio contract.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk numbers, but I will say nobody's

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Speaker 3: only because I was willing to say no. So many

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Speaker 3: times they realize, like, get this lady what she wants

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Speaker 3: because we need her on the radio, yes, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Or give her what she wants because

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Speaker 3: we need her in this campaign. So if I have

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Speaker 3: to find that much more, do you can or just

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Speaker 3: don't get somebody else. Get somebody else and let them

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Speaker 3: do it. Promise you they'll come back to you. I'll

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So the power of my negotiation and my woman has

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Speaker 3: been the fact that I know that I'm a superhuman.

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Speaker 3: I can do these things that most can't do. I

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Speaker 1: Hello, I did it three times indeed.

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Speaker 3: So God reminds me all the time. Maybe what I

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Speaker 3: created and you let don't let these people.

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Speaker 1: Tell you who you are. Right.

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Speaker 3: If this is what you want, then go get it.

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Speaker 3: This is not what you want, then wait, I got

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Speaker 3: something better.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good. You talked about radio.

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Speaker 2: I know you're an actor. When did you decide that

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Speaker 3: I always loved acting, always loved acting. First player ever

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Speaker 1: Obatala ol fitting how fitting, right, love my roots.

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Speaker 3: But I was the kid that I was really really

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Speaker 3: and we had to play an instrument. So in first

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Speaker 3: play the piano, the trombone, the guitar. What taught myself

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Speaker 3: the guitar. Trombone is my best instrument. My dad played trombone.

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Speaker 3: His dad played trombone.

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Speaker 1: The trombone is is it big? It's very deep? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking too, she's a win though. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 3: She's a win, she's those are all win instruments. But

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Speaker 3: dad said what instrument do you want to play? And

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Speaker 3: I was like forced to play the piano growing up.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, ooh, anything but the piano. I played

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Speaker 3: the trombone, worst best decision. Ever, this is my dad's instrument,

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Speaker 3: We're out there playing. And so in school, I can't sing.

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Speaker 3: It's not my ministry. Not the best dancer. Though I

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Speaker 3: So I decided gonna be in the orchestra. So I

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Speaker 3: the name of Mark Swinton who was my high school

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00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 3: drama teacher. Might my name is the other day shop

440
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: me listen to Mark Gonna be You're gonna be fly

441
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: every time you see him. So, mister Clinton, I still

442
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: call him, said Sinton, Sorry, mister Clinton. Mister Swinton.

443
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: He burst something in me.

444
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: He said, you don't have to be able to sing

445
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: or dance to be an actress. Wow, you are a star.

446
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 3: And I'm like, so you're gonna make me effie.

447
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: You can't be EFFI and dreaming. You're not gonna be Effie.

448
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: You can't be Diana.

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you can't be Laurel and none of

450
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: those characters. But I'm gonna find something for you. Wow,

451
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: you found something for me In every single play that

452
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: I could do, that was my best wo And then

453
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: each play he would challenge me again and again and

454
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: again and so then when I went to college, same thing.

455
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: Went on scholarship. What's my outlet? The AAC players, so

456
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: the CAU players, the UC players we have it's basically

457
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: a theater group. So I just did it for fun

458
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: and enjoyed it. I always loved it. It was my outlet.

459
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 3: Then I went Top Model. Tay Diggs did an acting

460
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: challenge on Top Model and that's how I got to

461
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: know him. Cut to first TV show. I get an audition.

462
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm modeling, not acting, just modeling. My modeling agent hits

463
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: me up and says, hey, there's an audition for you

464
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: to do this show called Kevin Hill playing ty Dick's girlfriend.

465
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: She's a model.

466
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, cool, are there words like my adjustice,

467
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: a photo shoot?

468
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

469
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Like?

470
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: No, there are lines, So sending me the script. I auditioned.

471
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: I got the job. Gig Vancouver, Canada. Okay, bright, I.

472
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: Mean I had just won Top Model December twelfth. I

473
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: remember the day, and I got this job in February,

474
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: so excited. It was so excited, So the Devil tries

475
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: at Uda Devil Tries. I got in a car at

476
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: a motorcycle accident, got hit by a huge envoys a

477
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: week before I was supposed to go and shoot the show.

478
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

479
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: I cannot make it up. I went straight out of

480
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: the hospital. I was gonna do this job. I love

481
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Memorial in Miami. This is where it happened, and

482
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: I went to Vancouver, Canada. My mom met me up there.

483
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: I was wrapped and bandaged on my legs all the

484
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: way up and my one episode turned into eight. Come on,

485
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: Beautiful Megan Good. That was my first time working with her.

486
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: It's how I know her to this day. And that

487
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: was the beginning of my acting journey. After that, I

488
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: went back I was shooting. I was out doing Apple

489
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Bottoms and cover Girl, Love My Shoots, shout out the

490
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: Susan Taylor at Essence back in the day, Love Love

491
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: My Shoots. But there was something about that set in

492
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: Vancouver that just it had me yes, it's like a

493
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: big fine man, you know, you just it, just get

494
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: your sitting in the back of your brain.

495
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: You can't forget about it. It was like that.

496
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: And so I told my agent, I said, so are

497
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: there any more auditions for acting?

498
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: So, well, we really don't do that.

499
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: We will feed over, but we really don't do that.

500
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: So decided to get me knocking agent. And that's when

501
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Beanie Medina was like, you wanna do this, let's do it.

502
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: So let's do That was in transition and my first

503
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: two big shows were House of Pain Shout out to Tyler.

504
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: Perry shout out TV first season.

505
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: Again, the Inception two thousand and six What and Hanging

506
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: the Restless Wow. And God knew exactly what he was doing.

507
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: He did at that time because the way in which Tyler,

508
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: who is a he's a mastermind. He is an absolute genius.

509
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: The way he has learned how to refashion the idea

510
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: of filming.

511
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

512
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: The only other place that I see that films in

513
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: that kind of speed are soaps.

514
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Yep soaps.

515
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: We are sixty two to seventy five pages a day,

516
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 3: every single day, six episodes a week, one in a

517
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 3: piece of day. So you do one in inserts, so

518
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: I would do House of Pain, hang through those episodes,

519
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: go to La bang Through. So I was learning and

520
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: getting the training at the same time. And I remember

521
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: calling viv Vivica Fox, who had done Young and the Restless,

522
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: and I said, viv what am I doing?

523
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: Like? Should I do this job? What do I do?

524
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: It's first contract role they had up in nine ten

525
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: years for a black person. The only black woman they

526
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: had on that show was Victoria Rawl, so I replaced

527
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: her and played opposite Christophe Saint John the Lake Great

528
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: miss him. But that's when I learned. She said, go

529
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: in e and learn everything. You can use this like college.

530
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: Use it as your training ground. Learn how to learn, quick, memorize.

531
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: And that's my ministry.

532
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: That's what I do well.

533
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: I can read his book right here and regurgitate everything

534
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: in that book.

535
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Wow.

536
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: And I realized that's one of the keys to acting.

537
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: It's understanding the story and having it in you. So

538
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Perry being able to be as transparent as he

539
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: was learning this deal he did with TBS crafting House

540
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: of Pain, the Ruben Cannons, the Roger Bob the way

541
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: back when you know, and him being so open to

542
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: letting us learn it as he learned it. I think

543
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: that was so key and fundamental for me. Working on

544
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: Young and the Restless, I got to exercise those chops.

545
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: But House of Pain, I got to sit and.

546
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Live in it.

547
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, funny cry, It's a little bit of everything. Yeah,

548
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: And it was the cultural piece I was missing.

549
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the telling of our story. Yes.

550
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: So I had two shows, both paying well, both doing well.

551
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: But there was something about that House of Pain. There

552
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: was something about being able to live unapologetically black.

553
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I have to tuck in.

554
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: Any of my chocolate cinnamon at all. And that's where

555
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: it started. And from there, I've been very selective about

556
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: making sure I do shows that show black women as

557
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: black women, like.

558
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: Even wearing your hair as your Yes, we talked about,

559
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: like this is a big thing for me wear hair.

560
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: So a current TV show, I remember starting the preproduction process.

561
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: So I get the job, and so now we're going

562
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: through the look who does this lady look like? Okay,

563
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: who is this gangster but poise business?

564
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: But from the hood, Like what does she look like?

565
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: And I knew she was buttoned up, but I wanted

566
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 3: to say something when it came to the hair. I

567
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: wanted black girls and women moreover to know that the

568
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: way their hair grows out of their hair head is sexy.

569
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: It is professional, It is beautiful, It is every day.

570
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: It is girl next door, It is funky, it is

571
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: all of those things. Because a lot of times you

572
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: put wigs on. Wigs are beautiful. I think you and

573
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 3: Cynthia Baylen, y'all two together, queens. No one can wear

574
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: a wig like y'all. No one but Cynthia.

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: That's a girl.

576
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: But no one can wear wigs like you, guys. And also,

577
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: it's not everybody's thing. Some people don't have the access

578
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: to it. People don't know what they're doing. And I

579
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: want it, my daughter more so than anything, in young

580
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: girls to know that.

581
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Your hair is fine.

582
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: Exactly how it comes out your head, it is fine.

583
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: You don't have to tame it. Like Beyonce says, only

584
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: a real one contain me, talk about I'm saying so

585
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: once you have that sense of no, this is her,

586
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: this woman is wearing locks. My production team they wanted

587
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: me to wear a wig and a bob. It's like, no,

588
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: we're not doing that. And I fought, and I fought,

589
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: and I fought. I know you got huge battles. Now

590
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: can't fight everyone, nobody, not Calisi out here. But that

591
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: was a battle I was willing to fight because I

592
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: wanted every frame. When I look back at this powerful, strong, amazing, feared,

593
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: respected woman to stand boldly in all her blackness, Wow,

594
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, Oh yeah we were.

595
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: I love it.

596
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Now when you go on set, I know a lot

597
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: of times when we walk on sets, we don't see

598
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: us in the rooms when it comes to hair, makeup.

599
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Even wardrobe. Sometimes our body types, our skin tone, yes,

600
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: our hair textures.

601
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Because you come from a beauty background, are there are

602
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: there times where you find yourself showing the makeup?

603
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I did it.

604
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: I had a whole party that was thrown from me

605
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: from my glam department. I did a film with Yo Zack.

606
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: We did a h daval Ellis. We did a Christmas

607
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: movie for own and thank god I was able to

608
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: be a producer on there, so I had a little

609
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: bit more room to talk yes and then speak up.

610
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: I was wearing my locks. That was non negotiable, and

611
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: I need a Lotician non negotiable. Now we are in Ottawa, Canada.

612
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: Ottawa Canada is as big as its Teaca, Okay. And

613
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: this is how many black folks they got in Ottawa, CA.

614
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: So with that being said, you could only imagine how

615
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: hard it was to find black lamb oh so difficult.

616
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: I required that my makeup artist be a woman of color, Yes,

617
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: because I know she understands my skin exactly.

618
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: It's a thing.

619
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: Melanated skin is created different, it is we are created

620
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: different head to toe. So I required a loctician. They

621
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: couldn't find one. I went and found one out of

622
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: a hair salon who had never worked a day on set. Ever,

623
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: she was head of hair.

624
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: You found a Robert found It was a cop.

625
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: Rob that assignment. But shout out to Nandy's Sugar in Ottawa, Canada.

626
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 3: She's from Toronto. She lives in Ottawa and she has

627
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: a hairshop. She does locks and she does hair. She

628
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: knew nothing about set life. Today, well, last week marked

629
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: one year.

630
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: She'd been on sets.

631
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: Wow, she has done nothing but set work. Her shop

632
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: is doing its thing. She has done every movie that

633
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: that production company has had since then. Because guess who

634
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 3: the next star the next film was, Gabby Siebe there

635
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: us they're us leading these films anyway, So starry to

636
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: use a little bit of my flex and wanted my

637
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: rooms to look like they look at TPS and brought

638
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: in hairstylists. I brought a barber in from my co star,

639
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: because they don't realize that black men need the edgeips.

640
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: You can't just put some hairsprings over it's it's it's

641
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: not that my friend line him up where your credit

642
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: card at line them up, make a rice. And there

643
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: was a point where we were doing a scene where

644
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: we were supposed to be in the South side of Chicago,

645
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: and we were doing a job they're helping underprivileged people

646
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: get jobs.

647
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: And I looked around at all.

648
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: All the extras, not one was melanated. Not one person

649
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: in Deval's character is supposed to be helping these inner

650
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: city people make money and get jobbed. So I took

651
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: my glam. I took their smocks off, their aprons, the

652
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: pins and stuff, fix their hair and push them right

653
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: into the scene. That's what they're right in the forefront.

654
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: Because the representation of us is not always there. However,

655
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: it is up to us to speak up so that

656
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: it can get there. If we don't, how do we

657
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: get there? How do you get a lotician on set

658
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: unless you tell someone close mouth don't get fit. So

659
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: I just require as soon as I start a project,

660
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: what do you want? What kind of girl is she?

661
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: Can I keep my hair?

662
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Yes?

663
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: First question?

664
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Can I keep my hair?

665
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: If I can't keep my hair, great, what kind of

666
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: period piece is this? Because we must be going way

667
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: back in the day. You must be going somewhere far

668
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: from here.

669
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: If I cannot keep this hair exactly and.

670
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: Just I want to make it a new norm. I

671
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: wanna make it comfortable. Yeah, you know, beautiful white women

672
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: can come in with their hair exactly how they woke up,

673
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: and it's fine you throw some curls in the call

674
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: of the day. I'm gonna come on set with my

675
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: locks just like this. Run me some edge, control my

676
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: baby here, and I'm gonna go on and be beautiful.

677
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Just like me.

678
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: Hello, I know that's right. You talk about working with

679
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: my Zach. How was it working with Develle Ellis? That's

680
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: one way we have in.

681
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Common, Zeval.

682
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Kadeen, Kadeen, you got you a

683
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: good little girl. Yes, listen, I love that man. He

684
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: is such a beautiful person. The way he loves his family, Yes,

685
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: the way he loves his wife, Kadeen, who's now my

686
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: wife too. He's not my husband, She's just my wife, right,

687
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: that's for clarity, But it is. It is like no

688
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: other He hungers and thirst for this thing called entertainment.

689
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: He loves it. He does on a whole other level.

690
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: And the way he speaks life and brings life into

691
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: a room, it's something you can't teach. It is either

692
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: who you are or not. Since the first day on

693
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: set when I met him, I realized, you a fool

694
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: just like me, A hope fool, a hopeful. He is

695
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: so much fun. He's so committed. I don't have to

696
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: worry about his punctuality because I'm about being on time.

697
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Mess up my lines, Oh my, I was just talking

698
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: about that. You do not play.

699
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: You come to work and you expect from everyone else

700
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: what you put into it.

701
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: Well, I expect that, I believe they expect from me.

702
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: I expect that from others. I don't expect anything more

703
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: than what I will do exactly anyone, even when it

704
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: comes to work, when it comes to a man, when

705
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: it comes to friends, I don't expect from someone what

706
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: I would not do for them or for myself. So

707
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: when I come to work. We have one hundred and

708
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: twenty people back here that have decorated this set, that

709
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: have scouted this location, that have put these garments together,

710
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: that have rigged these lives, that have done all of

711
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: this to make this work. For your moment, the least

712
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: you can do is show up in your moment. And

713
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: my moment couple with this person's moment, couple with this

714
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: person's moment is what we call a scene. Yes, So

715
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: if we all get our moments together, we can make

716
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: it work.

717
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that. It's so true. I

718
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: have the same sentiments about Devel. Just amazing to work with,

719
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: so good, so passionate. He's a teacher. I feel like

720
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: he teaches. He's father too, like the way he treats

721
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: his boys, and it's always trying to like instill values and.

722
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, do this, do this.

723
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: He has a story for everything, a story for everything,

724
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: story for everything, and he's very noledgeable in a lot

725
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: of areas.

726
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: He's a historian. He is a history buff, which I

727
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: love playing. He is so smart, so smart. But what

728
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: I love about him too is he reminds us why

729
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: we do this, yes, is because we love it. We

730
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: love it so there is no day you're gonna leave

731
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: set where you didn't find the fun and read tap

732
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: into why you're passionate about exactly, because sometimes you're so

733
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: blessed and you're just it's so you get so normalized

734
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: in this life that you forget that you're blessed. You

735
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: forget that you don't have to do this. You could stock.

736
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: Shelves if you want to, if that's what you want

737
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: to do.

738
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: Because if you want this, let's act like we want this.

739
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: Let's act like we do. Let's feel it. And So

740
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: that's one thing I love about working with him is

741
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: that I pray for this dream. I pay for the

742
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: manifestation of this dream to walk in what I'm walking

743
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: in every day, and I am not for one second

744
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: do I forget that I am walking the dream that

745
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 3: I dreamt.

746
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: In prayers that I pray for. He answered them.

747
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: So the least I can do is to have gratitude

748
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: in it.

749
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. So you have a daughter and

750
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: two boys.

751
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes, so she's living kind of like in your footstats

752
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: where raised with boys.

753
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, isn't and it's so crazy.

754
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: So what are you instilling and what is it?

755
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: Marlon Marley what are you instilling in Marley who is

756
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: raising two little brothers and she's the big girl.

757
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: I just sent her a video today, she's with her dad.

758
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: I sent her a video and I said, remember when

759
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: you walk out of the house, always be a lady. Wow,

760
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: you are a leader, not a follower. You are the head,

761
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: not the tell And be kind kindness, kindness, It's so important.

762
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: I remember I got a report from her school saying, Marley,

763
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: she talked a lot like a mom, a little talk

764
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: to one, but she is the most compassionate person in

765
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: the class. So there was a kid who's high functioning

766
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: on the spectrum. So they're still in mars class. But

767
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: when it comes to recess time and socializing time, Marlee

768
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: is like she's like head a cheerleading, play center, basketball,

769
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: like she's like the popular girl. And there's this one

770
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: kid who is just really quiet is on the spectrum. Marlee, recess,

771
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: every single recess takes time and goes So I made

772
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: me cry.

773
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I didn't tell her to do this.

774
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't even know about this kid in

775
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: her school. Marley takes time every day to go and

776
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: sit with that kid, to play with that kid, to

777
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: let that kid know they're special, that there's somebody that

778
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: they've seen. So for me, that's the stuff I want

779
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: my daughter to learn, Not how to be this amazing actress,

780
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: not how to do all these amazing things.

781
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: That the world says are good, but be kind to people.

782
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: You never know what someone's going, Yes, Marlee, you never know.

783
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: She is.

784
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Marlee is, she has been here before. She's a different

785
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: kind of a child. Remember when I got pregnant, I

786
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: wanted a boy. I'm so rough, I'm like, give me

787
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: a boy, and God gave me Marley.

788
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: Wow. And I didn't understand.

789
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: I was like, I thought, we had this conversation, guy,

790
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: this is a very pretty boy.

791
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: What is going on?

792
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: God knew exactly what he was doing. He knew what

793
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: he was doing with me. He knew what Marlee would

794
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: do for me, and he knew how Marlee would change

795
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 3: the world.

796
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Wow. So he cleaned me up.

797
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: And washed me up, renewed me so that I could

798
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 3: make a way better version of me, way better version

799
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: because Marley is, she'd one.

800
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: So she's such.

801
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: A kind woman, little girl, and that's all I want

802
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: for her. I want for my children to be kind. Yes,

803
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: we would love to say the kid's an engineer, a doctor,

804
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: or architect or created this. I want my child when

805
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: they meet their maker for God to say job well done,

806
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: and to know that the foundation of that job was

807
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: me showing her the righteous way. I feel like that

808
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 3: if I do that be my job. Yes, I've done

809
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 3: my job as a mother. Because Molly's gonna affect change

810
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: in a way. That's so. It's so crazy. And I

811
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: had no idea she was that kind of kind. And

812
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: I would tell her every day be kind. She wears

813
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: her shirts with big sunflower on it. Be kind, it's

814
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: to be beautiful. Kindness is the new beauty. Yeah, she's

815
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: so kind.

816
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: She's so sweet.

817
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: You look so pretty today, Oh mommy, she's just so sweet,

818
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: so kind. So that's what I want in part on

819
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: my my my children, but my daughter especially because it

820
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: will be reciprocated, not necessarily by the person she gives

821
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: it too.

822
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: M hm.

823
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: That's another thing I learned a lot of time in life.

824
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: We think that the person you give the love too

825
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: is supposed to give it back to you. That's not

826
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: how that worked.

827
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: She literally just posted something about that.

828
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 3: That's not how you because your heart said, and God said,

829
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: you were charged to give. Love is gonna make sure

830
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: you receive something of that level and magnitude, if not bigger,

831
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: not particularly from that person of that same source. But

832
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna come. It's coming because if he can get

833
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: a blessing through you, he can get.

834
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: One to you. Hey, hey, so listen, so good.

835
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: So I just don't want my baby to be a

836
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: blessing what.

837
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: She is and you are too. You called me recently

838
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: this just last week, saying I want to come to

839
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: church with you. I did, you did? And what was

840
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: it that means? You say, I need to get.

841
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: In the house cause you have. I hear you quoting

842
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the scriptures like you you were tapped in.

843
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I know the Lord. Yes, I know the Lord.

844
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: He heard and here's my Cristy. All the time, all

845
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: the time, it was you. You were the reason I

846
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: don't want answer your life.

847
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Okay, girl, you need to don't.

848
00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 3: Like because you get church hurt easy. So you find

849
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: yourself like uncle, IM going to church. I know the

850
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: Bible m M for a background.

851
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I can get you scriptures. Time to tie.

852
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: Let's go to Madicay three ten, bring y'all tied, just

853
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: to I got y'all. I'm ready ready for you. You're

854
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: ready for you, right, But this daily walk, this human experience,

855
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: is what we call life. It's tough that for Instagram

856
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: it's fifteen second snippets and thirty second snippets and that's

857
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: not life.

858
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

859
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: Life is this thing that we are going through every

860
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: single day. And it's ups and it's downs, and it's

861
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: rounds and it's rounds. And your light shines so bright.

862
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: Your light shines so bright, Chris, it's.

863
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 4: Literally in tears before I came out of your magic.

864
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 4: It's what we showing Instagram, like literally cry before here

865
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: and like shake it off. You gotta shake it off

866
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: for the hour that I'm gonna sit here for the

867
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: fifteen seconds I got to smile for the can't work.

868
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake it off.

869
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: Don't shake it off, because your light has helped me

870
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: through one of the halpest times in my life. And

871
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't even think you realize it because it's just

872
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: your light. When you turn the light on in a room,

873
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: you don't realize that that's been lit over there too,

874
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: and brother, that has a little piece on it too.

875
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: It's just your light.

876
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: But if your light is on, it's gonna cast brightness

877
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: on everything around you. So some of my darkest, darkest,

878
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: ouchiest days, you've just been bright well around me, and

879
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: you have inspired me to say, you know what, I

880
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: don't know where she getting fed at, but I want

881
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: to go there.

882
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: I want to go.

883
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: There to the place that's pouring into you because I'm

884
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: feeling a low empty So it's you. Well, it was

885
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: good because we got two of our other friends to

886
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: go to church that day, No, we did, and.

887
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: How they stuck with me in there.

888
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

889
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

890
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: Church, yes, but I love the word.

891
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good, and I think.

892
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: God's message a lot of times it's a lot simpler

893
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: than we make it in the way we have in

894
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: doctrinated church in our heads and our brains. Sometimes it's like, oh,

895
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: I want to be too long or what you know,

896
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're talking about. I need something

897
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: relatable and applicable to the life that I live, exactly

898
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: the journey that I'm on, the walk that I'm on.

899
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: And when I went to church with you, I feel

900
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: like you told this man my whole life. I'll ask

901
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: him my approval at all. You tell him all that

902
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 3: was going through. I got to check my house because

903
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: I think you got some fiber cameras in there. Because

904
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: he spoke directly to me, I am, I'm in my calendar, like, Okay,

905
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm out of town this Sunday. Next that Sunday, I'm

906
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: gonna be there. Like I am so inspired because that

907
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: day that walk with christ. I play my music every morning. Yeah,

908
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: I know, it's all about my mindset.

909
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: But life be lifing.

910
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes life be lifeing, and with the most positive minds

911
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: and the best intentions.

912
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: That would be working just hard. It does real hard.

913
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: So just like yeah, that church clean ac.

914
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: So I just needed something a little tangible. Yeah, oh

915
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: my god, it's something tangible. I needed to be in

916
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: the house. I needed to feel him around me and

917
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: haven't been church hurt and then being who we are

918
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: in business and then living in a city like Atlanta.

919
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 3: It's hard.

920
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: It's so hard. So I'm like, God, I want to come.

921
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Where do I go?

922
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: So I go to my closet floor and goes to

923
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: the bottom of a shower.

924
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. And used to go

925
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: into my basement.

926
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: I don't even go to the basement no more.

927
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: Be living me from that.

928
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: Yes, we don't go down there no more.

929
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, stay yes, oh yes. But then God say, you

930
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: know it, come to me, Jesus, come here.

931
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: But where do I go?

932
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: I gout said to call you God.

933
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: You was in town, you were available, like of all

934
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 4: weekend cause I was like, I'm w a.

935
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: We were both just out of town just the weekend before.

936
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I had I watched he had started that

937
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: series when we were in LA and I watched it

938
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: in my bed and Wednesday before the last Sunday, uh huh.

939
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: God was like I couldnot shake it. He was like,

940
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: watch it again, and I was like, oh my gosh, Okay.

941
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: So that's how I told the pastor was like I

942
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: had to double back on it because it was so good.

943
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: I was just like, God, you are working on me

944
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: right now, but.

945
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: He's using you too, because you are in the gap

946
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: for me. I don't know if you know what you

947
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: are you've been.

948
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's always my prayer. So to hear

949
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: you say that, I always say.

950
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: God when I kind of here, I just want people

951
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: to sear light through me.

952
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know I'm not perfect.

953
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: I know I don't have it all together. I'm still

954
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: trying to figure things out. I still struggle with areas

955
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: in my life and my faith walk. But I want

956
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: people to see you through me, you know, so wow.

957
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: You radiated parts. Y'all have been there like some good grease.

958
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't in there.

959
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, well okay, oh my gosh, Oh.

960
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, take me ho. We got Robert Crime, Denorah Snifflin's.

961
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: God cal only one cool as q com.

962
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: He're like, I'm used to this. You're like here, they

963
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: got All they do is cry. You get them to

964
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: do is cry. We need one more, you know, we

965
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna ring it hello. Oh my goodness. Yeah wow.

966
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: When it comes to what kind of mom I want

967
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: to be, I think about my life now, not knowing

968
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: that it was going to take this trajectory at all,

969
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: and what I need to help me while I'm on

970
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: my journey. And it's that that friendship. It's that knowing

971
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: that you have someone a prayer warrior that's praying for

972
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: you always, but then someone you can actually call yes.

973
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: And I want to be From Marley when she is

974
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: a young lady in high school, choosing college, setting off

975
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: into college, choosing who she wants to date, how she

976
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 3: wants to date. I want to be that safe place

977
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: for her to ask me about anything, absolutely anything, and

978
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: I want to be able to give that to her,

979
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: to be that soft landing space. Now for myself, sometimes

980
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: I feel.

981
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Like, cool, I'm gonna call right, Yeah.

982
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: You know, that's just gonna listen, not preach to me,

983
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: not tell me what I should do or what I

984
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: shouldn't have done, just be a soft space. Yeah. And

985
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: so that's what I want to be for my daughter,

986
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 3: most importantly for my daughter, because if I'm not it

987
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: for her, she will go look out in the world

988
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: for it. She will look for it through people, through material,

989
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: through titles, through all these ideologies of greatness and of

990
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: being loved and being So I want to do that

991
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: for her, and I want her to know that no

992
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 3: matter where she is, where what's going on, Mommy will

993
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 3: always be there. Mommy always gonna be there. And I

994
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: can't be there like God because God is here, a

995
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: different one, He a different one. He sits on my

996
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: hotel room floors with me. But I want I know

997
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 3: for me, I find myself sometimes in such such dark

998
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: places where you just need somebody, to just somebody, and

999
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: I want to be able to be that person for

1000
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: my daughter. I don't want her to be afraid to

1001
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: speak to me. I don't want her to feel lectured.

1002
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: I don't want her to feel judged.

1003
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I remember.

1004
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: My boy, their dad would get mad because I used

1005
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: to say I want I wish my kids are gay,

1006
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: and he was like, why would you say that. I said,

1007
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: cause I think I would be a really really good

1008
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: mom to a person was an alternative lifestyle. Yes, not

1009
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: that I want to determine what their lifestyle look like.

1010
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be blessed with having a child

1011
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: that chose an alternative lifestyle or God chose one for them,

1012
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: and I was the mom that was able to.

1013
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Love him because a lot of them don't have it.

1014
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: And they go and search for other communities. A lot

1015
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: of my friends, my best friend is gay, and the

1016
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: way his mother loves him gives him a space to

1017
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: be free and who he is. And I know so

1018
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 3: many people who don't have that luxury, so their cague

1019
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: and who they are in their work space, in their family,

1020
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: around their friends. They don't know their truth. They can't

1021
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: be their truth, they can live in it. So I

1022
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: just want to be that kind of mom. Whatever it

1023
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: is Marley wants to do in life. I mean, while

1024
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: Disney was considered.

1025
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: An idiot in school, why are you drawing?

1026
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: This?

1027
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: Is this? This is not gonna be and now with

1028
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: look look at them now? Hello, I want to be

1029
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: the person that said keep drawing. Yes, I want to

1030
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: go buy them sketch books. You want a new pencil?

1031
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: How you want to sharpen this pencil? Mommy got you

1032
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: some sharp. I want to be this. I want to

1033
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: be the conduit, the circuit that makes her like continue

1034
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 3: to always shine.

1035
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: I love that.

1036
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, either baby girl, did not know you

1037
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: was about to bring me down like that.

1038
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: Today.

1039
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: You are everything. You carry many hats, who wear many titles,

1040
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: but wow, you just blew me away with your motherhood, stories,

1041
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: your faith walk, the business woman that you are.

1042
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: You just everything.

1043
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: Are you keeping it positive? You know, gave us a space.

1044
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying.

1045
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: It's been it's actually been a beautiful safe space for me. Yeah,

1046
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: opening up me and dinner were just talking to me about

1047
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: how closed off I used to be, you know, and

1048
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: just very private and didn't want to let people in.

1049
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: Thinking that as you are saying, that's the best way

1050
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm sharing everything else.

1051
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: With the world.

1052
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: Let me just hold these things, have something to myself something,

1053
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, and not realizing the thing the very things

1054
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: that you're holding is you're holding back can help people?

1055
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, yes, but your opperative word and this

1056
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: is your beauty is the safety, the safe place. Yes

1057
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: you so I.

1058
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: Feel safe talking to you.

1059
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, telling you my aches, my pains, my burdens, my woes.

1060
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1061
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: Try not to get make up on your beautiful white couch.

1062
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I got something for that.

1063
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: But making it you create a safe environment. And I

1064
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: think with all of the social media that's out there

1065
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: and all the things that we see, sometimes it feels unsafe,

1066
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: like can I post this? Should I not post this?

1067
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: What are they going to say? What are they going

1068
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: to think?

1069
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: If I You know, but this is a place where

1070
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: honesty prevails and the truth will set you free. Well.

1071
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate the.

1072
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: Ability to just be me and have to promote nothing.

1073
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: I don't have to do anything.

1074
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: I just tell my truth. I love it. I love that.

1075
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: Are you how you holding up? Even with the strike?

1076
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: I know, where are you? Good?

1077
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: Strike is driving me crazy. I have to do a

1078
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing something later on to kind of educate people

1079
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 3: about the strike a little bit more in Layman's terms,

1080
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 3: it's it's it's really frustrating, but it's also empowering to see.

1081
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: It's like COVID. COVID I called it the Great equalizer MM,

1082
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: where people realized I have a skill, I'm being underpaid

1083
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: and I can figure out how to repurpose this skill

1084
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: and provide. Now a lot of people, like the famines

1085
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: in the Bible, suffered. I don't think there is a

1086
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: person on this earth that did not know someone or

1087
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: know someone that knew someone that suffered really bad from COVID.

1088
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: What it also did is gave black people, women and

1089
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: men alike. In the last two and a half years

1090
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: are the biggest entrepreneurs. We have made more money. And

1091
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about PPP loans. Actually realizing that I've

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: been selling insurance for this company making this much, I

1093
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: can start my own insurance company. Yes, because I had

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00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: to do it from home anyway for this company.

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00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: The great equalizer.

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: So for the writer's strike and the actor strike, I

1097
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: remember in eight when we had the writers strike, we

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: had the same kind of suffrage.

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: As far as.

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00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: Families need to eat. Billy Porter literally just sold his house,

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00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: Crazy Billy Porter, the Billy Porter. He had been on

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00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: Broadway people. I've been a fan of Billity forever. People

1103
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: didn't even know who he was until post amount of money.

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: He made a pose alone. But you got to realize

1105
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: he has to fuel his machine, he has to pay people.

1106
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: He's building things also, so he's investing in himself. So

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: that liquid changes.

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: It does.

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: And when you have a strike and you say you

1110
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: can't write, you can't act, you can't work right now,

1111
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 3: that becomes debilitating for a large large amount of people.

1112
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: Only three percent of actors are famous, only three percent

1113
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: of actors that are actually famouses, so the people you

1114
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: know weed to three percent. The rest of them are working,

1115
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: thriving actors that are not famous. They make regular wages

1116
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: and they're trying to figure it out. So the only

1117
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: thing that's exempt right now is I mean even background

1118
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: work people can't do. And they were only getting paid

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00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: fifty dollars a day the day that fifty dollars a

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: day for five days a week, six days. If you

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00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: found something on the weekend, it adds up not making

1122
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: that money. This recession, everything being a lot more expensive.

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00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: I just know that my God has a plan. He

1124
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: has such a plan. He does because what we're striking for,

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: which is the way the contrasts look per streaming. I mean,

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00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: my show's on a streaming platform. I love it because

1127
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 3: I know the fact that everybody else on here came

1128
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: here and paid to watch me. It's like a ticket price,

1129
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's not like, oh I

1130
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: was sleepy, let's go down. I'm like, they paid to

1131
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: watch that. This is TV for us, by us, with

1132
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: our stories. Yes, so fighting to make that makes sense

1133
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 3: for the actors. For the residual money. What those dollars

1134
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: look like later, it matters.

1135
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: It does.

1136
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: So I'm as holding on to not shopping as much,

1137
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: not flying, but I'm not.

1138
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: And I always have three hustles.

1139
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: So thank God that I always have other things going

1140
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: on in other businesses that I'm working. But this strike

1141
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: definitely keep everyone in your prayers, Georgia especially. It's a

1142
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: below the line state, which means if you a megap artist,

1143
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: you can work. You don't have to be a union.

1144
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: You can find this dream and you can work now

1145
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: you can't. Yeah, even in La La is destitute. Like

1146
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I know people that have traded their cars

1147
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: in to get cheaper cars, cars with electric cars, because

1148
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: everything it's just don't know when we're gonna go back

1149
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: to work and not knowing when you're gonna make money

1150
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: and having a family to feed is extremely, extremely daunting.

1151
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it can drive you crazy.

1152
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: Like even in this time, I called you Noor and

1153
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I want to figure out other more hustle.

1154
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: You say, three hustles.

1155
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: I need other things to come in because I don't

1156
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: want this to be my bread and butter. I want

1157
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: to put all my ags into this past because like

1158
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: I have investments and stuff. But when it comes to

1159
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: like other things I got going on, like I need

1160
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: something that's mine that I'll say, I know, I'm good

1161
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: whether it's and.

1162
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what God is doing in his time. Yes,

1163
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Like that like COVID, how everything

1164
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: he does, even if he allows, I said, what God allows,

1165
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: because even if it looks crazy, Yeah, what he's going

1166
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: to do on the other side, on the flip side,

1167
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be so much bigger and better than you

1168
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: ever thought. So maybe it is just taking that time

1169
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: to write more because you said you wanted to write,

1170
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: so now you've got time.

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01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: I got time. I got a lot of time to

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: do a lot of.

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: You said you wanted to do this, Now do it,

1174
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 3: and it gives you time to fuel it and then

1175
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: in no time. Because God will honor the desires of

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: your heart, He will honor them.

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: He will, And if we.

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: Want to get back to work, He's gonna let us

1179
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: get back to work. When we go back, it's gonna

1180
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: be better it was before.

1181
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: It will be it will be now. I can't wait.

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01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited. I know the strike is tap

1183
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: dancing on a lot of us. My show hasn't shotten

1184
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: over a year and a half.

1185
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: Wow, a year and a half. Oh my goodness.

1186
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: Mm hmm over a year. Yeah, over almost a year

1187
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: and a half since we shot.

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: So this happens so because you guys supposed to have

1189
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: to work now.

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: Work now, supposed we're supposed to have a whole other

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: season shot. So it makes me think about me. Okay,

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 3: number one, all right, you saved your money. What about

1193
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: number two, number three? The numbers go all the way

1194
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: down to forty five? What about all of the families

1195
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: that each one of those numbers represent. And that's just

1196
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: for the on camera, people on the call sheet. Flip

1197
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: that thing over and look at all of these names

1198
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: and all of these people that make this work. So

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: many people are out of the money right now. But

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: I do believe that God has a plan. I do

1201
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: believe that we're gonna come out better for it. And

1202
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: I do appreciate the solidarity with the Guild, the writer

1203
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: Guilt and the Actors Guild coming together, because that was

1204
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: a little different than in two thousand and eight.

1205
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: It was.

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like that white chair in Alabama. They say,

1207
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: as black folks can't stick together. If if you ever

1208
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: wanted to know we could stick together, give me a white.

1209
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: Chair and talk. Pops on im across.

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: Boy was sixteen years old.

1211
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Swim across, swim across.

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 3: So you're gonna find a way. We're gonna make it.

1213
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: We gonna we're gonna figure it out. The strike is

1214
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: finily tap dancing on a lot of our pockets. But

1215
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't want us to lose.

1216
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: Hope, No, can't. This is when we really got a dig. Yes, yeah,

1217
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: and have that faith. Yes, and keep hope alive, keep

1218
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: hope at seriously, Yeah, it's gonna be okay, it is.

1219
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: It is gonna be okay. Yeah, and I get to

1220
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: sit over here on a couch. See, if we was filming,

1221
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be able to do this.

1222
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: No, God know exactly what he does, does he does.

1223
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm even grateful for this. This is another way I

1224
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: can still be creative during this time. And so I'm

1225
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 2: glad we everything happened that he already ordered the stuff.

1226
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Yes, and I see it. I'm like, Gods, you've been working.

1227
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: He's been working.

1228
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew it was gonna happen in January when

1229
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: this was the idea was brought to life.

1230
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: So well, you've been doing an amazing job. I don't

1231
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: miss an episode. It's so excited, so excited. People think

1232
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 3: we go together if you're reposting you too much.

1233
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: We do. We do. We do go together. So try me.

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: I will vet you period.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So we're gonna get into my favorite

1236
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 2: part of the show is called Positive Outcomes okay, where

1237
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: it's our open listener letter where someone writes in and

1238
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: asks us for advice and then we give them advice.

1239
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: Sisterem says, Hello, Crystal, just wanted to start off saying

1240
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: I love you and your journey. You're so relatable on

1241
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: so many levels. I love seeing you on YouTube instead

1242
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: of having to wait on a new episode of Sisters

1243
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: or as Atima. I'm currently thirty three years old and

1244
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: I've been married for ten years. I have two children,

1245
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: and I made a place where I feel like I've outgrown.

1246
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: My husband tremendously.

1247
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: I don't receive the same support from him when it

1248
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: comes to my career as far as intimacy.

1249
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: And it's been all caps, been gone. He doesn't know how.

1250
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: To stimulate me mentally. I'm gonna use that word, she says.

1251
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: One else stimulate me mentally like the other guys?

1252
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: What are it?

1253
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: Guess right, finish a letter? I'm ready.

1254
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: Right it still doesn't know how to He doesn't show

1255
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: any effort to want to change or.

1256
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 1: Make things better. He just wants to go with the flow.

1257
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: He's not going to file for the divorce, but will

1258
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: sign papers, but also doesn't try to put any effort

1259
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: into saving us. I just feel like we aren't evenly

1260
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: yoked at this point in life, and there's nothing more

1261
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: I can do to save us.

1262
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: I am not happy at all. Should I stay or

1263
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: should I move on? What should I do?

1264
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: Hell?

1265
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: God, Ashley, are you listening. Ashley need some Astley needs

1266
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: some help. Honey.

1267
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: First of all, okay, first, thank you for writing in Ashley.

1268
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1269
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: I would say I'm not married. You know why I

1270
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: wanna let you take this eve Because I'm not married.

1271
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: It's a real space.

1272
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm no longer married.

1273
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: I was married. It's a different space. So you have

1274
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 3: been with this man since you were twenty three, you're

1275
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: thirty three year Jesus here, that.

1276
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: Is not an accident. Oo.

1277
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 3: By nature, you were meant to grow.

1278
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: You're meant to change.

1279
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: He was meant to grow, and he was meant to change.

1280
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: By marriage, you were supposed to grow and change together. Yeah,

1281
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 3: and sometimes we're in a rat race of trying to

1282
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: do all these things to be a good wife or

1283
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: be a good husband. We forget the small things, the

1284
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: little things. I would not give you advice to stay

1285
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: or to go, Miss Ashley. You know that you've been

1286
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: knowing whatever that is in your heart.

1287
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: You've been knew that.

1288
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: But what I will say is, after you've done all

1289
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: you can, you.

1290
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: Leave it to God.

1291
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: You can only take a person to the well. You

1292
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: can't force the water.

1293
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: Down their throat.

1294
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: You can teach him. I think That's one thing that

1295
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: I think is very important is communication. There is no

1296
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: expectation without community. You can't expect him to know that

1297
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 3: you don't like your ears kissed if you don't tell

1298
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 3: him to stop kissing my ear right, Nick, like, you

1299
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: have to say something. Yeah, So men are beautiful specimens,

1300
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: but y'are not the brightest sometimes and quick on hints,

1301
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: so sometimes.

1302
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: You have to just lay it out.

1303
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would advise you to be clear. Something tells me,

1304
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: after ten years of marriage and two children, you've maybe

1305
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: been as clear as a crystal ball. Comfort does set in,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I read Michelle Obama's book and she

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Speaker 3: talked about how the better part of ten years heard

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Speaker 3: and Barack she was not happy.

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Speaker 1: That crazy crazy.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what for the better part of ten years?

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Speaker 3: But she wasn't happy. But she knew that this marriage

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Speaker 3: was not just about the marriage. This marriage was about

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Speaker 3: moving an entire nation in the world forward. So she

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Speaker 3: sacrificed her happiness in those years so that she can

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Speaker 3: do her job, so that later that happiness was renewed.

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Speaker 3: It was bringing back a hundredfold. That's Michelle's story. Every

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Speaker 3: story is different. You have to know whatever your story

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Speaker 3: is for me. I have to choose me, myself in life,

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Speaker 3: my personal happiness, because my happiness is what fuels my children,

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Speaker 3: It's what fuels the people that God has put on

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Speaker 3: this earth for me to help blessed and to be

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Speaker 3: a vessel and a conduit for So I chose me.

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Speaker 3: There have been times where I haven't chose me and

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Speaker 3: it didn't work out so well. So Sis, miss Ashley,

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Speaker 3: you choose you, whatever that means to you. Choose you

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Speaker 3: for yourself and for them to kids, because there's no

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Speaker 3: amount of bandating you can do in a situation. There's

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Speaker 3: no amount of tiptoeing around. Kids are way smarter than

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Speaker 3: you think. And he ain't gonna go if you won't

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Speaker 3: make him. So like you said, yeah, if he's comfortable, yep,

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Speaker 3: it sounds like you're the uncomfortable person in the mix.

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Speaker 3: He's not uncomfortable. So this is your decision to make.

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Speaker 3: But know that there is no wrong decision. And one

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Speaker 3: thing my mommy always tells me is even if you

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Speaker 3: mess up and make a bad choice, it was your

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Speaker 3: choice to make. You can get up God will it

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Speaker 3: and make another Yeah. Wow, So it's okay. Whatever your

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Speaker 3: choice is. No one else is your walk. Only you

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Speaker 3: live and your head and your heart.

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Speaker 1: Only you live.

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Speaker 3: In your head and your heart.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So no one can tell you how you're supposed

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Speaker 3: to feel and what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: You do what you want to do.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: I love it, and you know what that is.

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Speaker 1: You know what to do. You know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ashley, thinking that was amazing, perfect advice. Even so,

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Speaker 2: now we're going to do the part of the show, Well,

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: say what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'll start off. I am going through who right

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: now today, just seeing things.

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: From other people's perspective, especially people in my life that.

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01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes I get so caught up in this is what

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Speaker 2: I meant by this, this is how it is, but

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Speaker 2: not seeing how it makes somebody else feel, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going through that and communicating, learning how to

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Speaker 2: properly communicate.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's what I'm going through and growing through.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's yeah, it's good communication.

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Speaker 3: Key, Key, it's so necessary, Yes, it is. It's so necessary.

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: And people can't assume you can't assume that they know, right. Yeah,

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 3: So that communication is so key. Yeah, what I'm going

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: through is learning how to be pampered and live the

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Speaker 3: I have been a thug my whole life, thug life.

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Speaker 3: I have hustled and tried to figure it out for

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Speaker 3: so long that I feel like I got away from

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Speaker 3: my softness and not being a girl with fluffy hair.

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Speaker 3: But I'm always that I got it person, I got it,

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Speaker 3: I'll do it. I got it. Learning how to sit

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Speaker 3: back and say you know what, I'm gonna let you

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 3: do it. Learning to be pampered for me, especially in relationships,

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: that has never been my reality so now, especially in

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: like dating, learning how to be like you know what,

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: Yes you can you, Yes you can. So that is

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 3: what I am going through and what I am growing

1378
01:11:54,760 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: through is taking my moments. Everything doesn't have to happen

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Speaker 3: at once. Yeah, and having gone through a divorce for me,

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours is a long time of a day,

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Speaker 3: and you go through a lot of a range of emotions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you.

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: Charge yourself or I charge myself sometimes like today's has

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: to be a good day. Being a good day doesn't

1385
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: mean you're not gonna stumble in the day. It doesn't

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: mean you're not gonna need a reset in the day.

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Speaker 3: I reset like fifteen times in a day.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: I press that little butt, like all right, let's shift

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 3: back because your emotions your your life. You'll get a message. Yeah,

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 3: and that message is just change everything. But does it

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: change everything or do.

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: You let it? You let it?

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: So I stopped letting these little moments take my joy

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: because the joy is in the journey anyway.

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Speaker 1: It is right.

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: It's like prom. You get ready for prom and you

1398
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: go with your friends. You get your nails done, and

1399
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: what color you wear the same color, wear different colors.

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Speaker 3: You're riding together. Mama much Mama got for the limo,

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01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: so you get all you little stuff together. The joy

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: is in that journey because once you get the prom,

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: prom is like I now can't find your friends, your picture,

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01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 3: A little crazy little curl.

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: Don't fell down. You know. The joy was really in

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: the journey. Yes, And we're.

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: Looking at that end, and I'm learning to have joy

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: in my journey instead of just looking for that thing

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Speaker 3: at the end and just head down, blinders on like

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01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: a horse and just trying to get there. It's like no, no, no,

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: pull off the blinders. Look around, there's a flower. I

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: was there's a chair. Maybe you should relax and smell it.

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 3: Learning to take my moments, to really take my moments

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 3: there for me. I can miss them or I can

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Speaker 3: hold them.

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Speaker 1: So so good. Oh my gosh, this has been so good.

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you too. You did this

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: all jazz. We literally could right when we can on

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: the couch.

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: All right, I want your therapist, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: she wants what number? What episode was that.

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: That was navigating anxiety with delays? That doctor delay.

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 3: Zimmerman, doctor Zimmerman.

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: Hm.

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 3: She spoke to my heart like the pastor spoke to

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: me at church. She's amazing therapy, she is. But this

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: couch is like therapy.

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: What you are doing.

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 3: You are your own doctor, baby Mama, Crystal, you are

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: the good doctor out here, winning soulsi Lord.

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's what I do. Have my own fire

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: for the Lord.

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01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: We do a little thing before we close out called

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: keep it blank, sweetie, okay, And.

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01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take from young Marley. Keep it kind, sweetie. Yes, yeah,

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: keep it kind, keep it gracious, sweety. That's good. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Wow, Oh my gosh, Eva, thank you so much,

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: thank you.

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: This was this is so good guys, I hope this

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: episode blessed you the way it blessed me. Who I know,

1441
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: you gonna need your clean ages and you might wanna

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: run this one back because it's so good even with

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01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: dropping gems on this one. If you wanna write it

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01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: into our Positive Outcomes Listener letter, write into Keep it

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: Positive Sweetie at gmail dot com.

1446
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: And that is sweety with an ie.

1447
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: You can follow kIPS on all platforms, and you can

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: also follow me at luv christ Orine on all platforms,

1449
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: and even please tell the people where they can find you.

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: You can find me at even Marcel on all platforms.

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01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: That's right, alright, guys.

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: In the meantime, until next time, you know what to do,

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: Keep it positive, Sweetie.

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Speaker 3: Bye,