1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Happy Friday and welcome to move the 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: six DJ Bucky back together. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Buck. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: How you doing, man? 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Man? Great, it's been a great week. Uh. I mean, look, 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: we're so kneebe and the football product, like the NFL 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: regular season is almost near the midway point. Uh. College football, 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: they're getting to the point where we're seeing these meaningful 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: games and then you know, like you did in southern 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: California high school, well you're getting close to the playoffs. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: So I know it's a lot of fun. 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: It needs to get cooler, though, man, Like I love 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I love living in California. The weather's great and all 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. But man, it's like, come on, we're we're 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: we're on the back end. We got two high school 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: football games left, and it's not I need just a 18 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: little just a sweatshirt. I like to wear a sweatshirt, Buck. 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you can wear a sweatshirt, just sweat up under, 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: bring a towel. But you know, know this, this is 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: this is perfect. He imagine if you're like in Ohio 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: and stuff and then you get to do it. 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the other extreme. I 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: just want up in the middle. 25 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Well, it had happened, It happened maybe in November. Somewhere 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: in November, you get some of those temperatures that you desire. 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: I am fine with it always being about seventy five 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: and nice. 29 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: And neat there. You know that is that's luck. I 30 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be the person who complains about it 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: being too nice outside, but just just like the worst 32 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: sweatshirt at night, that's all. It's all I'm looking for. 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: How's our team, By the way, I have not asked 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: you a while, high school wise, how are we doing? How's 35 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: our squad looking? 36 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Right now? We're sitting at five to and one. Okay, 37 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: it's been a rocky road in terms of like trying 38 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: to figure out what a real young team. But we 39 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: always talk about trying to play out besketball down the streets, 40 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: and so hopefully we're beginning to turn the corner and 41 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: kind of get everything going. But you know, we'll see 42 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: what it looks like. So we have a game against 43 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: the Oak Coad, and we've got senior Night next Thursday, 44 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: and then we just kind of see what the playoffs 45 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: seating looks like. 46 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: So you've played seven, then you've played seven? Are you 47 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: only playing nine regular season games? 48 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Now? We played eight? Like I got a tie in there, 49 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Like it's uncommon. 50 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that. 51 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had a time. So five to and 52 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: one we're sitting there, so we'll see what it looks like. Yeah, 53 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: many the playoffs and then that's the fun part, the 54 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: postseason one and done. 55 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm looking forward to following your journey there 56 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: as it did last year, which was fun watch you 57 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: guys go away the state championship game. All right, Today 58 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: on the show, we're going to talk about a couple 59 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: of college games. We're looking forward to some storylines there. 60 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna probably be pretty college centric there. Not gonna 61 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: be a long pod, so we'll get you hopefully this 62 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: is a nice You get a little two mile running 63 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: while you're listening to this pod today. That's what we're 64 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. Gets you two miles in and then 65 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna rap and you're gonna wrap and everybody's gonna 66 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: be happy and fit and healthy here. But we are 67 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: going to start out, which we do each and every Friday, 68 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: buck which is our BUCkies Coach's Corner where you take 69 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: a term each and every week and we have a 70 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: chance to learn a little something and have a fun conversation. 71 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: So what is our what is our term? What is 72 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: our word for today? 73 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: All right? So the word for today is gonna be sacrificed. 74 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: All great teams, Uh, if you're gonna be a great team, 75 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: a championship team, like, there have to be some level 76 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: of second price from the coaches, from the players to 77 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: be able to get it done. I had a great 78 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator while I was playing for the Green Bay Packer, 79 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: frich Shermer, who we were coming off of you, which 80 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: we lost the championship game, but we had Super Bowl 81 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: aspirations the next year. And he said, guys, he had 82 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: a defense in the room, he said, he said, guys, 83 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: to be successful, it's like when you have a pottom 84 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: of stove, he said, you got to pour in before 85 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: you can dip out. So everyone needs to pour into 86 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: the pot before you can start individually taking those things out. 87 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: He said, Because he says, I don't know much, but 88 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: I know this, the better the team, the more the 89 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: individual acculate. And so if everyone will sacrifice their own 90 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: individual agendas to make sure that the team is successful, 91 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: you'll get all the individual stuff that you want because 92 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: the team has played at the highest level. And when 93 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: you think about that in college, you think about that 94 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: in the pros A lot of times, DJ like the 95 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: Heiser trop if you want it goes to the quarterback 96 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: or the playmaker on the best team. You think about 97 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: it in the Super Bowl, the MVP and all this 98 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: other stuff goes to the defense player. There a lot 99 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: of times it goes to the standout player on the 100 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: best team because it's about the impact or the perceived 101 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: impact that they make and what you're trying to get, 102 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: whether it's a team or organization, you're trying to get 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: everyone to understand that part of it. If I worry 104 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: less about myself and more about how I can help 105 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: the team in the end, the team's going to benefit, 106 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: but I'm going to benefit as a result. It's a 107 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: hard concept for not only kids to get, this harder 108 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: concept for adults to get that if I take a 109 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: little less, if I do a little less in terms 110 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: of like me centric stuff, I'll get all this stuff 111 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: back if I really bind to the fabric of the team. 112 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a great word. A couple of phrases 113 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I wrote down along those lines. Remember hearing somebody say 114 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: early on, you got to give up to go up, 115 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: like you can't have you can't be great at thing, 116 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: and you can't be have your hands in a million 117 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: different things if you want to. If you want to 118 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: be good at something, it's going to cause you to 119 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: have to give up something else, you know, whatever that 120 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: might be. But you've got to give up to go up. 121 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: The other one was and we've talked about this a 122 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: bunch before, but you know that old line. If you 123 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: want to go fast, go alone. You want to go far, 124 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you go together. So you've got to be able. You've 125 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: got to be able to see outside yourself and realize 126 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: there's a bigger picture here, and sometimes that absolutely does 127 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: require sacrifice. That might mean, like in football terms, that 128 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: might mean, you know what, I got to play out 129 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: a position. You know, I might not be comfortable as 130 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: a safety. I'm a corner, but because this gets our 131 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: best five dbs on the field, I got to go 132 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: back there and play safety where I'm not as good 133 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: because that gets our other corner who's better than our 134 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: other safety. So I'm gonna take I'm gonna take one 135 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: here and get a little bit out of my comfort zone. 136 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: But I'm sacrificing maybe my my best optimal individual performance 137 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: because it's what's best for the team. 138 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember when when you 139 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: were kind and I don't know if this was true 140 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: in Baltimore, but it was definitely true for me when 141 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: we were with When I was a scout with the 142 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, John Fox always put a premium on we 143 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: want players from winning programs. And one of the reasons 144 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: why he was like, it's easier for them to understand 145 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: the sacrifices that need to be made to play at 146 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: a championship level. When you get guys that may come 147 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: from losing programs. They may have been stars individually, but 148 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: did they buy into the collective? And one of the 149 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 2: things that I mean we hunted for. We wanted these 150 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: guys from winning programs because when they came into the 151 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: locker room, those old core values that you talk about commitment, accountability, trust, 152 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: or you talk about give up to go up. They've 153 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: heard that before because of the winning program. Most of 154 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: the time you've had to sacrifice some of that. You've 155 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: had to buy into similar messages for the team to 156 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: be successful. So to me, sacrifice is a big part 157 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: of winning. And if you can find winners as you're 158 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: kind of building a new team, those guys already kind 159 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: of understand the sacrifice that was needed for the team 160 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: to play at his best. 161 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: So as we get towards a trade deadline as a 162 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: team builder, and there's not a lot usually not a 163 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: ton of trades NFL trades, But I remember talking to 164 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: my buddy in the hockey world who said that they 165 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: looked at the trade deadline is they tried to find 166 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: a couple glue guys, Like, if we can find a 167 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: couple glue guys and his words who had some championship experience, 168 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: veteran players that have been there, done that, that understand 169 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: what you're talking about sacrifice and that can spread that 170 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: message throughout the team. I think we need to pay 171 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: attention at the trade deadline, not just you know, how 172 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: impactful is the talent that you're bringing in, but maybe 173 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: how impactful can the person be that you're bringing in. 174 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, is one of those things. Trade deadline or down 175 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: the stretch. Ron Wolf when he was running the Pack, 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: he always would try and sign a veteran down the 177 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: stretch I think one of my final years he was there. 178 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: I think you might have signed Mark Collins, who had 179 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: played with the Giants, and I don't know how good 180 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Mark Collins was as a player, but what he wanted 181 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: was to sprinkle some of that championship experience, some of 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: that pedigree, some of that what we call that old 183 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: head in the locker room that could talk about as 184 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: you don't get many opportunities to chase it, to get close. 185 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: So if everyone can just don't worry about your individual stuff, 186 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: but just hey, let's just lock in and do whatever 187 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: we got to do for the team because if we 188 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: are look, if we're champions, we'll be immortalized forever. So 189 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: let's just do those things. DJ what your friend in 190 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: the hockey world talks about it is really important because 191 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: those glue guys matter. Even when we're looking at the 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: baseball right we're into those rounds where we begin to see, man, 193 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: it's the role players that are older, that are wiser, 194 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: that are being able to come in and make critical 195 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: plays or the behind the scenes things to help the 196 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: young guys get up. It's undervalue, but it's greatly appreciated 197 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: by the people that are in that world. 198 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I've seen it. Look, I think their runs 199 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: probably getting ready to end. But with Tommy fam went 200 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: to the Arizona Diamondbacks, a veteran, been around forever, intense, 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: competitive guy, but he gets that overall team picture, and 202 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I think he helped kind of mold and nurture some 203 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: of those guys. And look watching the Astros the other 204 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: night and they're down two to one as we're recording 205 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: this right now. But man, buck, they have so much 206 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: experience like that, I guess al twoves like second all 207 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: time now and playoff home runs like that, Been there, 208 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: done that, that understanding and experience, Man, that's big. Once 209 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: you get into the playoffs, I think it matters. 210 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: And I know people say, oh it' I think you 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: don't want to have a team of too many old 212 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: guys that can't play, but you need to have some 213 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: around that can help because when you get in those 214 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: moments and you get in those games, that experience matter. 215 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: Is that that been there, done that? Uh, that ability 216 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: to still win that you have no business winning, that 217 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: comes from experience. And so we look at the Patriots 218 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: now right everyone is talking about the Patriots and they're 219 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: down on the Patriots and all that, but DJ doing 220 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: their run, think about all the old grizzled veterans that 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: they brought to shay out, like you know, like har 222 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: Ridney Harrison, the old guys that they would bring through 223 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: there for like a little run, to give them a 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: little piece, to be able to kind of talk to 225 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: the guys or make a play in a select role. 226 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: It is one of those things that when you're building 227 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: thin and I think team builders have to appreciate and man, 228 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: we just kind of need just like a little gray 229 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: beard in the locker. I don't know how much he 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: can play, but we'll pay him. We'll pay him just 231 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: to have him around, just in case. There's a value 232 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: in that. 233 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: No question, I agree completely. So that that's that's the 234 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: theme today, little BUCkies coaches corner sacrifice and what that 235 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: means for the overall success of the team. So that 236 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: was a fun one. Buck, Let's take a quick break. 237 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll jump into some of these college 238 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: games on our abbreviated Friday pot. All right, Buck, great 239 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: college football slate. I feel like every week this screws me. 240 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: It's always when the Chargers are on the road and 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: I'm traveling on a Saturday, and I end up missing 242 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of these games, but a few I want 243 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: to get to here, Starting with Ohio State Penn State. 244 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: We've talked about Penn State before and that James Franklin's 245 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: kind of built his team to play against Ohio State. 246 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I've heard a lot of a 247 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: lot of conversations about Penn State Ohio State. This being 248 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: maybe Penn State's best team in terms of their talent, 249 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, their toughness, and there's a 250 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: lot of conversation about the quarterback being able to just 251 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: kind of play the right way. People have talked about, oh, 252 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: they don't push it down the field, but this is 253 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: more of a methodical Penn State team than we've seen. 254 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: We you know, they were explos was when they had 255 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Sake on Barkley. We've seen all that other stuff. But 256 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: this is a team that appears to have the toughness 257 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: to go toe to toe but in Ohio State to 258 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: kind of make it really a match in a phone booth. 259 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: The one thing that I worry about with Penn State 260 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: is we talked about that experience, that big game experience, 261 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: like they struggled against like the O High States and 262 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: the Michigans of the world. So who is going to 263 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: make the play when they need it at the end? 264 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Who is going to do it? And I'll be honest, like, defensively, 265 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: can Manny Diaz? Can he find a way to do it? 266 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Because he wants to bring pressure from everywhere, But does 267 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: he have enough confidence in his guys to lock up 268 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: and cover? Because when Notre Dame played Ohio State, they 269 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: played man demand and they covered. It is going to 270 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: stay good enough to cover Ohio State? 271 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: I think that's what they're going to do. I mean, 272 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're going to attempt to do. 273 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: But he's done it. He's built a roster with incredible 274 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: athleticism and speed which is equipped beautifully to go up 275 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: against Ohio State. And I think the drop off and 276 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: quarterback for Ohio State for where they've been traditionally, that 277 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: gap has all but disappeared between these two programs. And 278 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: then you know, you look on Penn State offensively. I 279 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Bucket in years past, you play against Ohio 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: State team, you're like, man, we don't get to thirty five, 281 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: chanton they get to twenty four. I think they got 282 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: a really good chance at winning this ball game. 283 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there has to be the thing that's 284 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: that's the manage number. It's a different team, you know, 285 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: And to me it was eye opening when I saw 286 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Notre Dame play them Manda Man. No disrespect in Notre Dame, 287 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: but that's normal. There hadn't been there their mo when 288 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: it came to how they played or whatever. Typically there's 289 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: a little notch below their athleticism and some of the 290 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: top teams. And so when they had enough confidence and 291 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: they had success playing Manda Man, everybody their blueprint for 292 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: others on how to play this version of Ohio State. 293 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: For Ohio State, somehow, I think they got to unlock 294 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: their playmakers on the perimeter. You know, we can talk 295 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: about McCord. Maybe the quarterback is holding them back a 296 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: little bit. But in my mind, DJ, if you're standing 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: with the play sheet, there has to be someone on 298 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: the sideline tallying up the touches at Marvin Harris. Can 299 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: you get Marvin Harrison. You remember the old Randy ratio. 300 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: It might to do with Randy Moss. I think it 301 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: might need to be broken out this week from Ryan 302 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: to a. Look, we need to get him ten to 303 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: twelve targets, and some of those need to be forced, 304 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: but we need to make sure that he gets enough 305 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: targets to have an impact on the game. If Ohio 306 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: State leaves the game and Marvin Harrison only has two catches, 307 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: to me, that's a problem. He needs to have a 308 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: bigger impact on the game, and some of that needs 309 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: to be manufactured and designed by the play call. 310 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I've to made shoot. If you 311 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: got to throw him in the backfield and pitch it 312 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: to him, for crying out loud, just put the ball 313 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: in his hands and let him touch it. Get him 314 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: going early in that game. Seems to be a smart idea. Alabama, Tennessee, 315 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: that's a big one. Eleven seventeen. Alabama is just I 316 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: feel like every game from an era in the past 317 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: where they were blowing the doors off everybody, it feels 318 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: like they're in a lot of fourth quarter games. 319 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, they're in a lot of four core games. Well, 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: here's what I appreciate about Nick Saban and whatever preach 321 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: about great coaches. Great coaches can recognize very early in 322 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: the year what their team can and can't do, and 323 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: they're like, hey, this is how we got to play 324 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: to win the game. And what they've become is they 325 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: are a slow, methodical, rocking socier, gritty, tough. He made 326 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: a decision on the quarterback. I hear you guys saying, 327 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: we need to do this, but this guy gives us 328 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: the best chance. It's not pretty. Remember it's not. It's 329 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: not what we've had with two and Mac Jones and 330 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: those other guys that come through. But that's fine. We're 331 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: gonna figure out a way to win it. The problem 332 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: is the march for areas a lot slimmer than in 333 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: the past, and so they can't turn the ball over. 334 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: They really have to be on point on defense in 335 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: terms of controlling the game and not allowing the explosives 336 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: to be a big part. And then when you look 337 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: at Tennessee and that is their game, explosive plays, hot 338 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: powered offense. 339 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Last year it was a boat race. It was Jalen 340 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Hyatt after Jalen Hyatt, after Jalen Hyatt after Jalen Hyatt. 341 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: They better have figured that out. 342 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: And so that's the thing, because they're split. They put you, 343 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: they put those four dbs. 344 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: On a slot verticals and they just went after those safeties. 345 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Man be able to hold them in coverage. Yeah, this 346 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: is trick, but these games to me are fun. Djy. 347 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Just look, these are the games that you want to see. 348 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: You want to see the marquee games not only from 349 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: a fan standpoint, but from an evaluator. I mean, I 350 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: want to see how the guys best on bet. To me, 351 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: that's where you get the true evaluations. I want to 352 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: see the best guys against the best players. 353 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Well as scouts will be watching the sc Utah game 354 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: to see how Caleb Williams responds. That's what we're gonna 355 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: be looking at from a personnel standpoint. You mentioned it 356 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: yesterday on the show. It's a great opportunity for him 357 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: after having faced some real adversity, one of the first 358 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: times he's really had some real adversity here. Three interceptions 359 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: played is probably his worst game as a collegiate. So 360 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: how does he bounce back against a really physical Utah team. 361 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, Buck, it feels like I think 362 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: people are going to issue a verdict on Lincoln Riley 363 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: after this game. One or the other. They're gonna say, Okay, 364 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: this is going in the right direction, and they you 365 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: know it, Maybe maybe they were a little bit further 366 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: away than we thought when he got there. But this 367 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: is gonna work. If they go out there and Utah 368 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: does what they did to him twice last year and 369 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: physically beats them up for the third time following a 370 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: game where Notre Dame beat the stuffing out of them, 371 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: people are gonna be sitting there saying, man, this is 372 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: a this is a quote unquote air raid you know 373 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: type offense. It's soft. They're they're not who us. Anytime 374 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: s He's ever won anything, they've been a physical, tough, 375 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: rugged team, and this team is softest tissue paper. He's 376 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna have that that this game feels like people are 377 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: going to make a decision after this game whether this 378 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: thing's going right or left. 379 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: It's already mounting up. I mean, there's one of the conversations, 380 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: and I mean, you saw how Brian Day bristled at 381 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: the suggestion that Ohio State was sawt It is one thing, man, 382 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: It is the one thing that as a coach, you 383 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: never want anyone to talk about your team being soft 384 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: in a game that's really built on physicality and toughness. 385 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: Sc is going to have to step up and not 386 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: only matched Utah's physicality, they have to exceed it and 387 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: it has to be And when I say this, and 388 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: I think it's really important, like like coaches to talk 389 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: about it. Look, man, we want to match the physicality, 390 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: but we're not trying to fight them. What we want 391 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: to do is we want to knock them around from 392 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: snap to whistle over and over again. And you earn 393 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: their respect by throwing those haymakers at them between the 394 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: lines and between you know, within the bounds of play. 395 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: But for me, USC this has to be a physical game. 396 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: And let's let's be honest about the elephant in the room. 397 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: The defense has not been up to park the defense. 398 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: We know the offense is going to be what it is, 399 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: but what you're hoping in a perfect world, the version 400 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: of USC that I'm looking at is high flying offense 401 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: that's explosive and dynamic, but a defense that is physical 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: that runs counter towards that. And some would say it's 403 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: hard to practice against maybe a more of a finesse 404 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: offense and get the physical edge, but we've seen teams 405 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: do it. Like Clemson wasn't necessarily a very physical offense, 406 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: but defensively they had monsters that could get it done. 407 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: Alabama when they went to spread, they still retained some 408 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: of their physical their physicality and toughness for SC and 409 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: why they fall behind. It has been a while since 410 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: we talked about SC International Championship conversation. They have to 411 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: up to any when it comes to that. So, yeah, 412 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: there are a lot of odds that will look at 413 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: this game, it's weakend against Utah and say, you know what, 414 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: it's never gonna work despite all the flash and that, 415 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: despite the transfers, despite all the stuff that's coming out, 416 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: SC will never be what they were until they go 417 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: back to doing some of the stuff that they did. 418 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the other thing I would add is just TV scouting. 419 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: I haven't dug in and looked at them in terms 420 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: of the tape, but just flipping channels and watching them 421 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: on TV buck, it doesn't look like they have a 422 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: top three four round offensive lineman. Like they got abused 423 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: up front by Notre Dame. And if you think back 424 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, they had a good offensive line code coach 425 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: and they had a lot of NFL offensive lineman, you 426 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: know with Creed Humphrey obviously, you know gosh Uh, Orlando Brown. 427 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: They had a bunch of different guys get picked there. 428 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: So that that is that is a concern. We'll see you, taugh, 429 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: no matter it doesn't matter what year it is. Kyle 430 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Whittingham is going to be big and physical up front, 431 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: So we'll see what that looks like. It feels like 432 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: a huge game at the coliseum. See you, not just 433 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: for their PAC twelve hopes this year, but for kind 434 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: of a confidence boost to to where this program is 435 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: at this point time real. 436 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: Quick, because there's been some scouts that they're talking about 437 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams, and you know, one of the things that 438 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: happens when guys hang around and they kind of have 439 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: a big year and then they come back for that 440 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: that that next year. Do you feel like Caleb Williams 441 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: is trying to do too much? Like in baseball terms 442 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: and baseball terms, people are saying he went from being 443 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: a contact hitter to trying to be a power hitter, 444 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: home run hitter, and that has impacted his game and 445 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: so we're seeing more mistakes because he just not a 446 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: taken with the defense is given me and just kind 447 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: of playing the play as opposed to trying to manufacture 448 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: big play. 449 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I talked to Bruce Feldman the other day and 450 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: he was asking what I thought, and I said, it 451 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: looks like he's trying to hit a five run home 452 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: run on every snap, Like he's trying to do the impossible. 453 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: Like you just needed a simple you know, and if 454 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: it's not there, throw it away, don't take a bad sack. 455 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: But he's he and he's kind of looking to make 456 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: these you know, incredible instagram worthy, you know, spinning out 457 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: of tackles and doing all this kind of stuff and 458 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: across your body, and it's like, you can't major in 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. You can sprinkle that stuff in, but you 460 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: got to major in getting your feet in the ground, 461 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: making quick reads and deliver the ball accurately, which he 462 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: can do and he's done it. But right now I 463 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: think he's he's h he needs to major in the 464 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: simple and he needs to minor in the spectacular. And 465 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: I feel like he's got that flips. 466 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard. I think it's something that we 467 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: talked about. We always talk about simplicity and those things 468 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: and out yet it out he's the main thing, the 469 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: main thing. When he's been at his best, it is 470 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: about hey man playing doctor dot. Let the playmakers do 471 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: the work and every now and then utilize your athleticism 472 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: to make plays off the script. But it's hard for 473 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: anybody to live off the script. You know, even Pat Mahomes, 474 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: who is at the pinnacle of his game, he has 475 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: become a much better player. Even though it's crazy we 476 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: talk about a two time MVP. I think he's playing 477 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: some of the best ball of his career the last 478 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 2: couple of years when he's had to play more connected 479 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: dot because he always had the ace in the hole 480 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: where I can get off script, but now he can 481 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: play in rhythm, on time and those things, how do 482 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: you beat them? For Kavin Williams, he just needs a reminder, man, 483 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: you want a Heisman trophy kind of doing it a 484 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: certain way. You don't have to like rewin that Heisman trophy. 485 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: You don't have to try and be more spectacular than 486 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: you were a season ago. Just let the game come 487 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: to you and let let your natural time and shine. 488 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: It's been a huge problem. And the thing about it, 489 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: what he doesn't know. If he starts running up these interceptions, 490 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: that becomes a conversation in the question, and what he 491 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: does is he cracks the door open for a guy 492 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: like Drake Mate. If he decides to come out, somebody else, 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: Michael pennag like, he cracks the door for guys to 494 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: start looking elsewhere for the quarterback that values the ball. 495 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: So it's just about making sure he keeps the main 496 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: thing the main thing, and not trying to do too much. 497 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. That's a big opportunity for them. Again, 498 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: they are number eighteen in the country now you tost fourteen, 499 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: So that would be a big bounce back if they 500 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: could find a way to get that done. But I 501 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: never bet against the Utes. Kyle Whittingham is as good 502 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: as it gets in terms of a coach, and he'll 503 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: have his guys ready to go. Looking forward to watching 504 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: that game. All right, I said it back it was abbreviated. 505 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys listening and hopefully you hit the two miles. 506 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully you get a nice cool down in right now, 507 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: maybe a nice cold towel, banana something. By the way, 508 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: do you do that? Are you a Are you a 509 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: podcast when you go for your walk or your run? 510 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: Here? Yeah, mister podcast. Yeah, So normally DJs is all 511 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: kinds of like leave your podcasts and stuff your buddy, 512 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: our buddy, John Gordon. I'll listen to a lot of 513 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: stuff that he has. Yeah, I'll try and find different 514 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: things where you're just trying to talk to like influences. 515 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, like that's where you get it in my head, 516 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm a reader, but also like to me, that is 517 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: part of readings, like it's trying to keep your mind active. 518 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, podcasting is big. 519 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, there you go. That's our Friday 520 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: pod in the Books. 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