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Speaker 2: One of the things I love being in the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: I love to cook. One of the funniest things people do.

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Speaker 2: I've always thought this. You ever pull the milk out

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Speaker 2: of the fridge and you feel like it might have

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Speaker 2: gone bad, But for some reason, nobody ever has confidence

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Speaker 2: in their own nose in this situation. They look at

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Speaker 2: the milk, they smell the milk, and what's the first

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Speaker 2: face and they go, smell this, And I'm like, why

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Speaker 2: would I do that? If it smells awfully, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to do I don't want to do that. Snap

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Speaker 2: my head back. Awful, awful smell thing with the milk, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you trust yourself, trust yourself. If it's awful, it's awful,

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Speaker 2: let's pour it out. But there's a reason I'm bringing

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Speaker 2: up stale milk today. Ryan all across the NBA, every

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Speaker 2: rumor I hear it's stale.

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Speaker 3: You want to know what I read just now?

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Speaker 2: Ago would if James Harden remains a sixer, the Houston

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Speaker 2: Rockets might be interested? Kyrie Irving, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Kyrie and Lebron playing games? Mavericks, Lakers, Houston Rockets. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing teams are competing for Chris paul Man.

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Speaker 3: This is stale.

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Speaker 2: How many different places do we need to go and

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Speaker 2: realize that just because it was great in the past

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Speaker 2: does not mean it's going to be great again, these

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Speaker 2: rumors are stale. These teams should see the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 2: do that too, or else this thing is going to

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Speaker 4: Listen, listen, Mark. I'm normally with you, and I think

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Speaker 4: in most cases that is right. But you'll have a

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Speaker 4: situation like OKAYC did with Chris Paul, where everybody, the

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Speaker 4: reports would just flat out he'd be bought out, waved.

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Speaker 4: You know, opening day, you won't see him in a jersey,

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Speaker 4: and Chris Paul ended up being the best thing for

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Speaker 4: a Shay Gildrits, Alexander the Oklahoma City Thunder moving forward,

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Speaker 4: So you don't know what guys will be in a

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Speaker 4: different situation. So I hear what you're saying, You're tired

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Speaker 4: of hearing it. You're tired of the excitement. And for

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Speaker 4: those who don't know, as analysts, our job is to

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Speaker 4: come on and tell you what's going to happen, what

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Speaker 4: it's gonna look like, whether it's a good move or

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Speaker 4: bad move. And you know, unfortunately Kyrie has let us

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Speaker 4: down in certain situations, just things that just hadn't worked out.

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Speaker 4: That's part just part of the business world. So but

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Speaker 4: you never know when that move is gonna click and

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Speaker 4: it's gonna work out, and every organization is gonna come

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Speaker 4: out and they're gonna compete and they're gonna try to

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Speaker 4: be their best. And sometimes their best may not be

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Speaker 4: in one year, maybe a two year plan. It may

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Speaker 4: just get fortunate you draft right, Hey, You're you're in

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Speaker 4: the city that a guy is from. Hey, Lebron James

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Speaker 4: just chooses to go back to Cleveland. Just sometimes things

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Speaker 4: work out, Mark, but you have to have a plan.

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Speaker 4: You gotta try, and you got to be in the mix.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's just a part of it. And

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Speaker 4: the Denver Nugget drafting, drafting Michael Pola Junior, where everybody

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Speaker 4: got to pick a plan and go for it, and

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Speaker 4: sometimes it goes your way. Sometimes it doesn't listen.

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Speaker 2: I get that just because somebody has been around the block.

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Speaker 2: Of time or two does not mean they can't steal contribute.

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Speaker 2: Because there are certain areas around the league where what

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Speaker 3: I still believe in certain cores.

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think Philadelphia should should break it up.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. They built something interesting

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Speaker 2: there in the second half of the season. I don't

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Speaker 2: think on is just because he's thirty eight is a

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Speaker 2: bad basketball player. And I've been on my station ninety

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Speaker 2: five to seven in the game in San Francisco for

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Speaker 2: three weeks now saying the core for the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Is still the core.

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Speaker 2: I think different things around all of those players need

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Speaker 2: feel have sent a message to the world. And man,

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Speaker 2: we are so slow to listen. While we're terrible listeners.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving's everybody a message. Then he did again, Then

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Speaker 2: he did again. We're still not listening. I can't tell

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Speaker 2: you how many teams I keep hear and think that

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Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving is going to be the key to their offseason.

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Speaker 3: Give me the evidence.

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Speaker 2: Three teams in a row now he has arrived and

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Speaker 2: blasted them to smithereens within minutes after getting there. In

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Speaker 2: my opinion, all last three of his stops, Chris Paul,

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Speaker 2: don't the Suns? You tell me Ryan, the Sons think

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Speaker 2: they're in a championship window right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So why don't they want them anymore?

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Speaker 4: I think it's more money, you know when it comes

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Speaker 4: You look at the Lakers, when the Lakers move Russell Westbrook,

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Speaker 4: we got to get this middle class together. We got

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Speaker 4: right now. And that's what you saw the Lakers go

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Speaker 4: of you gotta understand the method to the madness with

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Speaker 4: a score. Hey man, I'm gonna tell you one thing.

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Speaker 4: The way that the NBA's played, So Mark, I get it.

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Speaker 4: The NBA you knew coming up in you had to

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Speaker 4: That's what everybody was searching for the next set. You

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Speaker 4: a chance on you. Now, you need God to put

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Speaker 4: tired of these Chris Pauls and these Kyrie's and these Westbrooks,

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Speaker 4: they can put the ball on the basket. They played

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Speaker 4: gonna keep getting opportunities. And Chris Paul pulled the gift

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Speaker 4: redefined himself as time went on. Hey, you forget Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 4: You know it is going to be in the running too.

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Speaker 4: As far as those names, I understand you didn't mention

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Speaker 4: them because you're not comparing him his first time being traded,

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Speaker 4: being moved and saying that he's spilled milk. I think

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Speaker 4: we all know that that would be a lie. But

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, Mark, I think you

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Speaker 4: a team that can go out and get really, really

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Speaker 4: good by acquiring one of those guys if it fits

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Speaker 4: the right way.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: See, now, I think we're speaking in a broad sense,

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Speaker 2: and I think let's individualize it for a second.

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Speaker 3: For me.

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Speaker 2: You're mentioning what Chris Paul did in Oklahoma City as

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Speaker 2: of the start of this upcoming season that will now

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Speaker 2: be a phittually four years ago. That's a long time.

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Speaker 2: I remember four years ago. I had never known what

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Speaker 2: That might as well have been twenty years ago. That's

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Speaker 2: a long time. You're right, he was good in Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City and not good anymore. He doesn't look good to

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Speaker 2: me anymore. He's fine. But when people think, oh, we'd

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Speaker 2: be getting Chris Paul, like, you're getting about sixty five

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Speaker 2: percent of Chris Paul through my eyes. Last time this

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Speaker 2: guy played more than seventy games in an NBA season,

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Speaker 2: And here's where we can loop Kyrie into this as well. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I might be interested in either of these guys if

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Speaker 2: I had assurances that they now realize they are not

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Speaker 2: the player that they used to be. But what kind

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Speaker 2: of confidence do we have that that's the case. You're

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Speaker 2: telling me Chris ready to be a bench player. He's

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Speaker 4: I don't think you'd ask Chris Paul to do that.

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Speaker 4: But I think Chris Paul clearly I can't get that

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Speaker 4: to Chris Paul. I think he's redefined his position by far.

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Speaker 4: He's fine coming out getting ten to fifteen points, but

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Speaker 4: ten to fifteen assists on the other hand, So I

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Speaker 4: give Chris Moore. The questions with Chris are is he healthy?

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Speaker 4: You know, when you need the most, you get to

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Speaker 4: be able to play? And the questions that go on

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Speaker 4: with Kyrie are, hey, you know he scores the basketball?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Does he score good enough to only score the ball?

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Speaker 4: You know? But hey, I'm gonna give you this about Kyrie.

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Speaker 4: They love him in Dallas. They had the guys that

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Speaker 4: thing with him in Dallas. There's not like, oh, Kyrie

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Speaker 4: toward the lock Like I have spoken to people in

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Speaker 4: they Unfortunately the results weren't there on the court. The

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Speaker 4: with Kyrie Bay He's agreed, dude.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he tore the locker room apart in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: But listen, basketball wise, they said guys on the court,

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Speaker 4: they said, guys like to play with them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, they didn't win though, they didn't win, like

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Speaker 2: they made that trade in February, and I couldn't fend

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Speaker 2: off how many people were like, well, that's a rap

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Speaker 2: in the Western Conference because no one's going to be

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Speaker 2: able to stop him and Luca Ryan. They didn't even

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Speaker 2: make the play in tournaments. They didn't even make the

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Speaker 2: play in tournament. I grew up in an NBA where

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Speaker 2: if you were actually a star player, you got yourself

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Speaker 3: How on earth can Kyrie.

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Speaker 2: And Luca be real if they didn't even make the

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Speaker 2: looks like the Nuggets are gonna win. Not I've already

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Speaker 2: made a fool of myselves in these NBA playoffs too

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Speaker 2: many times making assumptions. But it looks like the Denver

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Speaker 2: it that way. And they do have annuity, they got youth,

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Speaker 2: it's fresh, it's new, it's it's something different in terms

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Speaker 3: Okay, how do we beat Denver?

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Speaker 2: And that's fair to a degree, But I also think

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Speaker 2: just how it works. Every single year is a different journey.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, you're a perfect guy to talk to you

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Speaker 2: so every year is a different journey. We always hear

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Speaker 2: So I think right now parody in the NBA is

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Speaker 4: No, you're right about that. Here's the thing with the Nuggets,

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Speaker 4: you're on point with what you're saying, Mark, they don't

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Speaker 4: dor you know, had kind of been out. We talked

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, Mark, I never won a championship.

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Speaker 2: Write my only my only hesitation was what we talked

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Speaker 3: It didn't feel like that to me, and the Clippers do.

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Speaker 4: That is very true. But a lot of times, though,

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't that that like they didn't win coming

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Speaker 2: Right, They've got some continuity then, Like I'm not anti transaction,

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Speaker 3: However, they also have a corps that's.

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Speaker 2: Been there for all four There is complete continuity with

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Speaker 2: that basketball team. Like if I'm looking at a team

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Speaker 2: that I find interesting over the next If I want

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Speaker 2: to buy stock over the next, call it four years.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA, I'm interested in teams like the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in teams like the Sacramento Kings. And I'm

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Speaker 2: even interested in teams that that have cores, that are

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Speaker 2: young and getting better, that have the option to keep

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Speaker 2: them together. I'm looking at you, Boston Celtic. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at teams that have a core, even like the Golden

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Speaker 2: State Warriors, I personally have I've put my flag in

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Speaker 2: the ground that this thing doesn't necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Have to be over yet.

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00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: They need to make some moves, they need to change

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Speaker 2: some things around the core.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm the Warriors, I stick with the core bootmark.

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Speaker 4: I've named several situations where they've paid off. Those moves

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Speaker 4: have paid off, and everybody's going terarn with the team

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Speaker 4: that the player wanted to go to and win with

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Speaker 4: they like. It's paid off several times. And I think

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Speaker 4: now what we're seeing is Steph Curry is older, Klayton

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Speaker 4: Thompson's older, Lebron James is older, Kevin Durant is older,

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Speaker 4: and now things are just wide open, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's just more so the decline of our megastars are

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Speaker 4: faces of the league, and you're looking around for who's

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Speaker 4: the next face of the league, and it's looking like

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Speaker 4: it's going to be Nicola Jokic. But you know, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, I don't I don't think

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Speaker 4: that you can just say that it is or that

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Speaker 4: it isn't. I think when you don't have the superstar, okay,

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Speaker 4: you build with your team. You build with your guy. NIKOLEA.

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Speaker 4: Jokich is a team guy. He's going to do it

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Speaker 4: his way. This championship, it's like that that throwback Detroit

467
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Speaker 4: Piston's team. You got Piston's Eastern Pistons West right, and

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I see there. But you know,

469
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Speaker 4: without that franchise star, without that face of the league,

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Speaker 4: that guy there, everything is up for grabs. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's what we're seeing. And and Mark, you just said, hey,

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Speaker 4: that's a strong statement, man. You said you don't even

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Speaker 4: feel confident that Denver goes back next year and is

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Speaker 4: as successful. That is a no very strong statement by man.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's just life. Though.

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Speaker 2: It's not because they're doing anything wrong. It's just because

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Speaker 2: so many different things can happen. In fact, I'd love

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Speaker 2: to go over a list of teams that, in my mind,

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Speaker 2: see if you agree, are not that far away, and

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Speaker 2: I could absolutely see it twisting their way over the

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Speaker 2: next twel We'll do that here in just a couple

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Speaker 2: but it's Steve Desager time.

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Speaker 3: Let's get him in here. Let's find out what's trending. Steven.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hello there, and you are correct that pau Gasol

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Speaker 7: second season they won the title, and third season in

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Speaker 7: fact with the Lakers two thousand and nine twenty ten.

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Speaker 7: I did in research find that Clyde Drexler was a

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Speaker 7: trade deadline acquisition, so the Rockets, as a sixth seed,

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Speaker 7: were able to defend their title in nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 7: This year's Finals could be ending tomorrow, Denver hosting a

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Speaker 7: Game five. Nuggets lead the Heat three games to one.

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Speaker 7: A Game six would be in Miami on Thursday. Heat

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Speaker 7: guard Tyler Hero has still been out, still not cleared

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Speaker 7: to play yet surgery in April for a broken right

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Speaker 7: hand injured in the first half of the first game

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Speaker 7: of the first round. Hero guy, who averaged twenty points

497
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Speaker 7: a game this past season after being the League six

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Speaker 7: Man of the Year, the season before Stanley Cup. Game

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Speaker 7: five is Tuesday in Vegas, with the Golden Knights leading

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Speaker 7: three games to one against Florida. To Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 7: the Sunday night ballgame at New York is ended just

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Speaker 7: ended the fifth and a and it's Yankees two to

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Speaker 7: one over the Red Sox, even though the Yanks have

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Speaker 7: only three hits in this game, Colorado broke a six

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Speaker 7: game losing streak, defeating the Padres five to four. Home

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Speaker 7: wins for the Giants and Angels Cleveland as well, shutting

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Speaker 7: out Houston five nothing. Arizona won its fifth straight games

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Speaker 7: seven to five at Detroit. Tigers have lost nine in

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Speaker 7: a row. The Diamondbacks, of the first place team in

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Speaker 7: the NL West, now three and a half games headed

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Speaker 7: the Dodgers, who lost seven to three at Philadelphia. Phillies

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Speaker 7: record up to thirty two and thirty three. The Mets

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Speaker 7: lost again thirty one and thirty five, lost two to

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Speaker 7: one at Pittsburgh. Pirates are a first place team. Milwaukee

515
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Speaker 7: had been tied for first in the NL Central with Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: Milwaukee lost at home to the on charging Oakland A's

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Speaker 7: eight to six. The A's, who had a record of

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Speaker 7: twelve and fifty not that long ago. Have now won

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Speaker 7: five in a row Cincinnati and Miami with road wins,

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Speaker 7: home victories for Toronto and Tampa Bay, which beat Texas

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Speaker 7: seven to three, winning pitcher Shane McClanahan ten in one,

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay at home thirty one and seven so far

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Speaker 7: victories for Baltimore and Washington as well. Martin Truex Junior

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Speaker 7: won today's NASCAR race on the road course at Sonoma.

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Speaker 7: Novak Djokovic took the French Open, who record twenty third

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Speaker 7: career major title, one more than the injured Rafael Nadal

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Speaker 7: and what a story from golf. Nick Taylor from Canada

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Speaker 7: took the Canadian Opened in a playoff, beating Tommy Fleetwood.

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Speaker 7: He won by making a seventy two foot eagle putt

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Speaker 7: on the fourth playoff hole, the longest made putt of

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Speaker 7: his tour career. A guy who shot seventy five in

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Speaker 7: the first round winds up taking omachek of over one

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Speaker 7: point six million dollars and becomes the first Canadian since

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Speaker 7: nineteen fifty four to win that event, which was in

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Speaker 7: Toronto today, one of the tour's oldest tournaments.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Oh my gosh, that putt was wild.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Ryan, if you watched that the highlight

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Speaker 2: of that putt, what'd you say?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 2: Steve seventy one feet seventy two, seven seventy two. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, man, that was That was a wild, wild putt.

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Speaker 2: And he makes a little bit less than two million dollars.

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00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: Live Golf is on the line and would like to

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Speaker 2: offer him a billion, but he's gonna have to say no, Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll get some more on that. He's just, you know,

546
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: listening to Steve go over some of the baseball stuff. Ryan,

547
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: what a weird year in baseball, and so far it's

548
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Speaker 2: too early to get too hot and excited about any

549
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Speaker 2: of this. I think the cream will rise to the

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00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: to the top, as it always does. But when you've

551
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: got a Miami Heat, Denver Nuggets NBA Finals, which a

552
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: lot of people will say on the way in, oh gosh,

553
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: the league's gonna hate it, that's not gonna draw good ratings.

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00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Listen to who is humming through baseball so far. The

555
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Rays, the Baltimore Orioles. The other really good

556
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Speaker 2: team in the American League is the Texas Rangers. Sure

557
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: the Braves are doing their thing with the best record

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Speaker 2: in the National League, but they're matched by the go

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Speaker 2: ahead and name a diamondback.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening as he.

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Speaker 2: Said, Pittsburgh Pirates are in first place in the Central

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Speaker 2: and they're big, young up and coming guy I believe

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00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: is hurt right O'Neil Cruz Like the Miami Marlins are

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Speaker 2: eight games over five hundred. The teams that we quote

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Speaker 2: unquote want to see, uh, they're not there right now.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just a part of it, man, It's

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Speaker 4: a part of it. And it's not money. And like

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Speaker 4: I said, there's a change into the guard man and Mark,

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Speaker 4: you know, especially when it comes to baseball, the hottest

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Speaker 4: team ends up winning, and you get some of these

571
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Speaker 4: young talents and these guys developing the miners that they

572
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: come up. It's it's a completely different sport. But man,

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Speaker 4: it's it's just time for a new sheriff to be

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Speaker 4: in town. Man. And that's honestly, Mark, that's what we're

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Speaker 4: seeing more than anything. That is what we're seeing here,

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Speaker 4: you know, across all sports, Hey, man, are you for

577
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Speaker 4: a while. When it came to even Patrick Mahomes, who

578
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: was super confident that the Chiefs were gonna win. Now

579
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Speaker 4: we see that they won, and you can kind of

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00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: get behind what was going on there. But that wasn't

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Speaker 4: a guarantee. That was by the skin of his teeth,

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Speaker 4: you know. And then you looked up and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we got Mahomes and you don't right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when it happens like that, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it sort of happens.

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Speaker 3: It happens pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: And the second we saw Mahomes, you knew that it

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Speaker 2: was going to be something that was a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: And so now they're on a run and that thing

590
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Speaker 2: may last a little while. Although the NFL is loaded

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Speaker 2: with quarterbacks who feel like they are right there.

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Speaker 3: I mean you just I.

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Speaker 2: Look at the AFC this year and sure Mahomes is there,

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Speaker 2: but everyone's good waiting. Like Herbert, can you take the

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Speaker 2: next step and put the challenge in him? Does Russell

596
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Wilson become a former version of himself? Joe Burrow has

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Speaker 2: established himself, Lamar Jackson's got the contract.

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Speaker 3: Does Deshaun Watson look like his former self?

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Speaker 2: And then go to the East where Aaron Rodgers joins Josh.

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Speaker 3: Allen, And then we'll see what Tua can do.

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Speaker 2: Like I just named over half the conference and they

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Speaker 2: all feel like a threat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just these mega powerhouse players aren't there. You're looking

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Speaker 4: for the new faces of the league. You're looking for

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Speaker 4: the guys. You're looking for those guys, and until you

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Speaker 4: find them, man, things are just wide open.

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's good for sport. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I think it's funny. Mark. You're up there in the

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Speaker 4: Bay and once Golden State was dominant, everybody complained. Everybody complained,

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Speaker 4: of course they're too good, like all that championship, right,

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Speaker 4: And you know it's you know, it's funny. You know

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Speaker 4: it's funny. Mark, Am I am I mistaken. There's no

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Speaker 4: dominant teams. There's no one we can get behind. Everybody's

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: losing to everybody. No one wants to take the next step.

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Speaker 4: That's it's the only thing that people are rumbling off with, right.

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Speaker 3: That's a classic thing in sports.

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Speaker 2: We actually love what we think we hate, which is

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Speaker 2: an identity. When the league has an identity, no matter

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Speaker 2: what league we're talking about, when they have an identity,

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Speaker 2: you can either love that team or you can hate

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Speaker 2: that team, but you know that team. How many Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl parties have you been to in your life where

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Speaker 2: someone goes, oh, I am so sick of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: No you're not.

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00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: No you're not, because you know him. You know him.

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Speaker 2: What you want to do is sit down and root

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Speaker 2: against him. You're not sick of him, You're just rooting

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Speaker 2: against him. But if I give you non descript nuggets heat, eh,

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Speaker 2: you're not nearly as likely to show up. So you

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Speaker 2: know what I'd love to hop into with you because

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Speaker 2: you said Jokich is about to become the face of

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Speaker 2: the league. Okay, who's potentially next? Who could join him?

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Speaker 2: Who could be his ride? So just look at some

635
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: of the other teams that have a chance to really

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Speaker 2: be on the Nuggets level come October and November. When

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Speaker 2: we get started again with Ryan Hollins, I'm Mark Willard

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Speaker 2: and this is Fox Sports Radio. Okay, these arethetie Rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Hollins is in for e from Slam on this

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Speaker 3: Sunday night, and wait, thank you wherever you are. However

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Speaker 3: you're bringing us in, bringing the week to a close.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a different week for some of

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Speaker 2: us because we don't have to rush the kids to

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Speaker 2: bed later on tonight because school is done out for summer, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I know that changes your world a little bit too.

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Speaker 2: So it's all different now. And everybody always gets so

648
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Speaker 2: excited to get to summer. Oh, I can't wait to

649
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: get to summer. Get to summer, and then the second

650
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: you get to summer, as a parent, you're.

651
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: Like, all right, what the hell do I do with

652
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: these kids all day? What?

653
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

654
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: What do we do?

655
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Now?

656
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: Wait? Wait? I need to take care of them all day?

657
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: What I did? What?

658
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: What?

659
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: That's not how I thought this worked. Man, it gets

660
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: crazy fast. So anyway, good luck to everybody on that front.

661
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: But talk to me, now, how close are these teams?

662
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: Right?

663
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: How close are the Boston Celtics? And what would you

664
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: do with that problem contractually there?

665
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: As a former player, you know, I'm always going to say,

666
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: keep it together, keep those guys together, let them figure

667
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: it out. You have the talent, you have the players,

668
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, you have everything that you need. But I

669
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on behind the scenes. You know,

670
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 4: sometimes in organizations there's arguments. Guys get into it. You

671
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: don't you don't know where they stand. You say, hey man,

672
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: this thing hasn't been working. You know, should we stay

673
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: with it? Should we? Should we keep them together. There's

674
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: always you know, there's always a million different factors going

675
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: on that we don't see that happens behind the scenes.

676
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: Me personally, Hey, I think they should work things out.

677
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 4: I think they should figure it out. I think that

678
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: at the end of the day will be the best course.

679
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: But I'm not there in the life locker rooms. I'm

680
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: not sure what's going on. And you know, if we

681
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: rewind to not this last year, but the you know,

682
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: the the I guess it is last year. We're still

683
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: playing basketball. I feel like I almost feel like market

684
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: with your statement earlier, we just gave the championship up,

685
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: we quit watching.

686
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: We kind of did right, right, right, But.

687
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: I think the Celtics were rewarded and it looked like

688
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: they took that next step. Now this year looked like

689
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: a step backwards. But you still have something to work with,

690
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: you still, uh, you know. Unfortunately, some may consider this

691
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 4: year a loss for the Celtics for the talent that

692
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: they have, but I think they got a heck of

693
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: a coach in Missoula. You have the talent, you know.

694
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: It's not often you look around the locker room and say,

695
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: hey man, we have enough to win, you know, the

696
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: Celtics can legitimately look around that organization and say, hey, guys,

697
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: we have enough to win, and you know, let's go

698
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: figure figure this thing out. So I think I'm in

699
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: the in the camp of stick together, man, figure it out,

700
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: work it out.

701
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: I agree with you completely.

702
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: I always think at the end it is just mainly

703
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: a major market thing. Like you'll notice the markets that

704
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm about to bring up. When you think about the

705
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: way we now think about their stars in major markets,

706
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: whether you were supposed to win the whole thing or not.

707
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: As soon as you don't, we spend.

708
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: At least three weeks hating their best players and deciding

709
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't work anymore.

710
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: That's what we do. That's what we do.

711
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown was second team All NBA, yet we've decided

712
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: he can't dribble, he stinks he's a terrible basketball player

713
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: because you didn't like the last visual of him. Same

714
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: thing in Philadelphia. Oh, I'm not trusting the process anymore.

715
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: That's it.

716
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: Joe l Embiid and James Harden, who've transformed himself led

717
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: the NBA in assists, and now we've decided, oh gosh,

718
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: same old James. After one or two bad games toward

719
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: the end. They're doing it in New York as they

720
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: always do. Julius Randall, get him off of my roster.

721
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: And then here we are Los Angeles, San Francisco, Klay Thompson,

722
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, what have you?

723
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: Whatever it is the last.

724
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: Visual was or now we don't like you and you

725
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: can't play anymore, no matter if you played well all

726
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: year or not. I think it's so prisoner of the moment,

727
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: the idea that all these rosters need to flip upside down.

728
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right about that. I agree, and I

729
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 4: think the biggest statement and if we're gonna look at

730
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: you know, probably what the Celtics do, you can assume

731
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: they run it back. They brought back Missoula. There's no

732
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 4: question they saw what all these other teams, successful teams

733
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: did was like dump their coach. It's gotta be somebody's fault.

734
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: I don't believe in sports it always has to be

735
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: somebody's fault. The other team was better, We have enough,

736
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: let's get back to it. The ball didn't bounce our way.

737
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: And sometimes you just feel like you have to make

738
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: a statement. Somebody has to be the escape coat. And

739
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: un fortunately in the NBA that ends up being the coach.

740
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: But I think Missoula coming back says, hey, guys, we

741
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 4: believe in what we have here. Look how close we are.

742
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: And if they're watching, hey, man, when I lost the player,

743
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: I ain't watched the playoffs no more. If if they're

744
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: watching it, mark, what are they probably saying? Dang, we

745
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: dropped the ball. That's gonna be us. Someone's in the

746
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: gym working out right now, right saying, Okay, we're gonna

747
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: win a championship. This is it.

748
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Brown, super Max, what would you do?

749
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: I pay him? You don't let a talent like that

750
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: walk at his age. You pay him, You beg them

751
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: to stay. That doesn't grow on trees. You don't just

752
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: draft them. They don't. They don't show up. They're not

753
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: walking around the you know the ballpark. Hey, you pay him, right.

754
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: Man, it's twenty six years old. He's twenty six years old.

755
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is twenty five years old. And I would

756
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: caution Boston right now. I would caution that city from

757
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: getting too emotions.

758
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: All about this.

759
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're like, you know what, it's been

760
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: long enough. Town's not big enough for the both of

761
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: them can't win the championship. They're twenty five and twenty

762
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: six years old. You're gonna break up two talents like

763
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: that because you've decided it can't work, because it hasn't

764
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: worked by the time they're twenty six years old. Go ahead,

765
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Your trash is gonna be someone else's treasure if you

766
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: give them up.

767
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: I tell you that right now.

768
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: Well, you probably think back to the last time you

769
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: saw a talented move that big or talent of that

770
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: magnitude break up, and you mentioned them earlier. James Harden

771
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: went to Houston and it was like, oh my goodness,

772
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: and okayc He's like, man, we had all three of

773
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: those guys on the same team.

774
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: Unreal, unreal.

775
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay, see had that and for a few dollars actually

776
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: decided that they couldn't keep them all together.

777
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: I know their wishes were a part of that as well.

778
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,200
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Speaker 3: It's interesting that you.

794
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Speaker 2: And I have been having a conversation about non descript

795
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: teams and how we actually, even though we get tired

796
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: of the Patriots the Warriors, as we were discussing, we

797
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: actually need those in sports. You need an identity, and

798
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots are the team that suddenly have fallen into

799
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: the opposite of what they used to be like they

800
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: are now, there's no two ways about it, the most

801
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: nondescript team in their division. Would you disagree with that?

802
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't think about it. I think there was

803
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: a second where you were gonna look and be like

804
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: Man Belichick, what the difference Man and Brady went? And

805
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: then Tom Brady won a championship and it was like, no,

806
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: that's Brady Belichick. Don't get me wrong, You're great. But okay, Tom,

807
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: you know it was you.

808
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: You bring up a great point. I think it's hysterical.

809
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: What we do to coach is it's nothing against them.

810
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you Belichick's not a great coach.

811
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you Andy Reid's not a

812
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: great coach. They are great football guys. They know a

813
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: hell of a lot about what they're doing. They always have.

814
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: But that's the point. Philadelphia ran Andy Read out of there,

815
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: or you can't win the big one.

816
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Well you can if you have Patrick Mahomes.

817
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Like, how many coaches around the NFL do you think

818
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: would be getting the Andy Reid Hall of Fame in

819
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: the future treatment if they were the head coach of

820
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs right now?

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00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, man, Andy Reid, you need some respect on

822
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 4: his name. And even more so and for those who understand,

823
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: when Patrick Mahomes signed that mega contract, what it said is,

824
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: I can't keep Tyreek Hill, I can't keep our defense.

825
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: There's a number of names and guys and players they

826
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: had to let go. The old line was decimated and

827
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: they ended up winning a championship on top of having

828
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: obviously Mahomes, which significantly opens your playbook. But Andy Reid

829
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: was so prolific that he's held his offense back at

830
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: least twenty or thirty percent and still won. The only

831
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 4: thing they weren't doing is just chucking up bombs. They

832
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: just slowed things down and actually had to run the

833
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: football and they win the Super So Andy Reid is

834
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: worth his weight in gold. And keep in mind, he's

835
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Speaker 4: the one who even had the vision that said I'm

836
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: gonna bench my pro bowler for this. This Mahomes guy that.

837
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: Moment he got some credit. I'm not taking any credit away.

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Speaker 2: You're right, but I also, I mean, it's kind of

839
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: like Phil Jackson back in the day. Like Ryan, you

840
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: think you could coach Kobe in Shack to a title?

841
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Speaker 3: How you doing?

842
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, right, man?

843
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: Well true, see, now that's actually the talent in coaching.

844
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: It's funny, man. We're dealing with it right now in

845
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: the Bay Area because the Warriors fall out in the

846
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: second round and I'm hearing all kinds.

847
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Of negativity about Steve Kerr.

848
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, his game management, and he doesn't like the

849
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: young guys. He won't let Jordan Poole and Jonathan Kaminga

850
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup. Sometimes it won't even let him

851
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: in the game at all. That traded James Wiseman. We

852
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: have got to get rid of this Steve Kerr. And

853
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: it's like, look two things. First of all, don't overreact.

854
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: You have a great coach, he's very, very accomplished. But

855
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: when a team goes through a dynasty, I rarely believe

856
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: it's because of x's and o's. I mean, you mean

857
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: to tell me that teams like the Warriors would show

858
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: up in town and that teams are trying to defend

859
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Steph Curry and they're just like, man, didn't see that coming,

860
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: had no idea what they were gonna do. When they

861
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: can't when he crossed half court, they know exactly what

862
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. You can't stop it because it's Steph

863
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: damn Curry. So the talent in a great coach, Phil Jackson,

864
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, even a Greg Popovich, is managing all of

865
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: those personalities, egos, different talents within the room.

866
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it.

867
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: At least it's funny you say that, Yeah, basketball is

868
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: more about managing the personalities obviously the ex's and o's,

869
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: they end up being the same everywhere. I had to

870
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: talk with one of my former coaches, Gentry and Alvin Gentry,

871
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: you know, was in charge of the offense in Golden State, right, yeah,

872
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: I remember, I'm talking Alvin in charge of right, in

873
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: charge of whatever. Well, do you have your coach who

874
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: goes over the offense and you got your coach who

875
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: does the defense. However, you know those things are sorted up.

876
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: And you know that's what he did in LA with us.

877
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: And he had just played dribble drag backdoor. That was

878
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: just played dribble dragon back door has a great motion

879
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: to the weak side and moving everything. I said, coach,

880
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: man are running ribble dragon back door. They're running your play.

881
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: The reads are intact, and you're looking great. Golden State

882
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: is a role and Coach Gentry, he looked at me

883
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: and said, right, those guys just know how to play basketball.

884
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: He said that had nothing to do with me, And

885
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: I said, you're right, coach, I get it. I said, man,

886
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at your honesty.

887
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean the time and place says a lot about life,

888
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: It really does. I mean, remember a handful of years

889
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: ago we've Kerr had those back issues, and uh, Luke

890
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: Walton took over as the head coach, and uh.

891
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: They never lost a basketball game. They didn't.

892
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: They didn't lose a game, and Luke looked so good

893
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: that the Kings were like, I think we want him

894
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: as our head coach. He's amazing. He doesn't lose basketball games.

895
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: And that didn't go so well. That didn't go so well.

896
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: That's not to say that any old body could coach

897
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, but I do believe there to

898
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: be more than one person who could have done it.

899
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: You just brought up an if Alvin Gentry takes over

900
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: the Warriors while Kevin Durant is there winning the championship,

901
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: yes or no?

902
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: You know, I think they went And obviously coach Gentry

903
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: is established enough where he knows what to do, so

904
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: just anybody can't go in there. But it doesn't mean

905
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 4: what you're saying. I'm right on point. It doesn't mean

906
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: what we want to make it mean. We want to

907
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: make it mean so much more. And it's like, great job.

908
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: Just you are managing personalities as an NBA coach. You

909
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: are not messing it up. You know, at that level,

910
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: you should all hopefully know the x's and o's, and

911
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: you know you shouldn't be, you know, surprised by anything,

912
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: or you know, you should know strategically how to manage

913
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: your timeouts and things. And you know, any great coach

914
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 4: will tell you, I got man. I gotta have players.

915
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 4: I gotta play players on every level, but even more

916
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: so in the NBA.

917
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,680
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921
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: So circling back to the Patriots, this is why I

922
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: like the idea, And then there's another aspect of it

923
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: for one side I don't necessarily like. I'll explain. We're

924
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: talking about d hop DeAndre Hopkins will go for a

925
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: meeting this week with the New England Patriots.

926
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: How does that idea grab you?

927
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 4: First and foremost, I'm excited for him if they're gonna

928
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: pay him and commit to him. You know the type

929
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: of talent that the talent that he is, you know,

930
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: I mean a Belichick has talent. He won championships, so

931
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: as a coach, you know he can get it done.

932
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything wrong with going there. But

933
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 4: the first thing I think when jumping out to your

934
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: mind is you want to see DeAndre Hopkins win. And

935
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: I honestly, it's about quarterback. You look over. I don't

936
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: think there's anybody just glaring out to me in football

937
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: that's great. It's about who's healthy, who's hot, who has enough,

938
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: who has the best quarterback at the time. And I

939
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: hear you, Mark Well, I think what you're telling me

940
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: is you don't trust the quarterback play by any measure.

941
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: With the Patriots.

942
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I tell you this, I like the move for

943
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: the Patriots a lot more than I like it for DeAndre.

944
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling you, because the New England Patriots

945
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: lack identity. We have suddenly, very quickly after Tom left,

946
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: we look at the Patriots and they are a non

947
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: factor come your fantasy football draft day, Like a complete

948
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: non factor. Who is it that you want on that team?

949
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: Who are you sinking your teeth into. Who's an exciting

950
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: player on the New England Patriots. She's like, I can't

951
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: wait to see that guy play? Like sure, they're still viable.

952
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: They went about five hundred last year. They're well coached,

953
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: I get it. And they often went nondescript at skill

954
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: position spots when Tom Brady was there, But the same time,

955
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: they always had names even beyond Tom, who you could

956
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: look at and go, okay, I see you. And that's

957
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: why I love this idea for the Patriots because gosh,

958
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: look at their division. Josh Allen is there, and Aaron

959
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: Rodgers is there, and Tua is there, and Tyreek Hill

960
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: is there. And the Jets have those young right, Garrett Wilson,

961
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: and here comes Bryce Hall and I mean Brice Hall.

962
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: All of these players even digs right, the skill position

963
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: players for the Bills.

964
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 3: They've got all these names and the Patriots have Yeah,

965
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: So I love it. I love it for.

966
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: Them, But for DeAndre Man, it's like you said, your

967
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: surroundings matter. And if I'm a wide receiver, do I

968
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: want to go to the AFC and align myself with

969
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: Mac Jones slash maybe someone else? When Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Tua,

970
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Burrow Lamar, DeShawn, Lawrence Mahomes, Herbert Russell, Wilson all live

971
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: in your conference, boy, that's a tough setup for a

972
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

973
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. If you're DeAndre Hopkins, he's got one

974
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: of two rounds right now. They may be willing to

975
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: offer the most money. He may be at that stage

976
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: in his career with with having the you know, he

977
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: hadn't played much and just says, hey, man, I gotta

978
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: get the money. I gotta get the money. At this point,

979
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: you know, I can't I can't wait, I can't please anybody.

980
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: I gotta get the money and whatever happens happens. And

981
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 4: also even when tom Brady was there, every time there

982
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: was a big signing of a quarterback, we got excited

983
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: and we got fired up, and it was I mean,

984
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 4: just it was disgusting in all Drue respect. Every time

985
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: we got it. Chad Ocho, Sinka, all these guys went

986
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 4: there and you're like, man, this tom Brady's gonna be

987
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 4: throwing the ball to this even when they had tom

988
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: Brady's and then the guy ends up waived, it doesn't

989
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: end up working out. There's no passes thrown his way.

990
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: And I think that's a you know, that's also a

991
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: thing that we saw and that's why we're looking and going,

992
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 4: man like, that's that's not good. We're not necessarily excited.

993
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: Belichick and quarterback and wide receiver. Hey man, dam branch

994
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl MVP and they traded him away.

995
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: They do. Randy Moss is the only one who went

996
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: there and it sound what are the Patriots and excelled?

997
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: So I get there's definitely a lack of excitement. You're

998
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: not going on, man, this is this is gonna be

999
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: you know, blockbuster.

1000
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned money. Let's let's play a quick game.

1001
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: How much money you think DeAndre Hopkins has already banked

1002
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: in his career? Already, he's played for ten seasons. What

1003
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: do you think is in this factors? You got to

1004
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: give me a ball career?

1005
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's just the number is large. How about that?

1006
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: I just want to see how close you can get?

1007
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: Okay, how close do you think? I will say? Two

1008
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: hundred million?

1009
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: Okay, no, not that much? Good Lord, maybe I sent

1010
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: you the wrong way, but oh yeah, sorry, I'm not man. Hey, listen,

1011
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: I will tell you. Uh it's nine figures.

1012
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: This man has.

1013
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Made one hundred eleven point five million dollars in his career.

1014
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: So it's always about the money. Just ask golf. It's

1015
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: always about the money. It is always about the money.

1016
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: So I understand that, and I'm not mad at that.

1017
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: That's fine. But man, when you've played he's on the

1018
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: other side of thirty ten seasons in the NFL, you've

1019
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: made nine figures. Yeah, I'd go somewhere if it exists.

1020
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: I don't know where the offers are. I'd go somewhere

1021
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: where I had a better chance to win.

1022
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 4: Do you So you think he's at the point where

1023
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: he's pay cut time. He may well either, Yet, Mark,

1024
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1025
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: He's point to you.

1026
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's pay cut time automatically.

1027
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything he can do about that.

1028
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: He's not going to get the you know what, he

1029
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: was making twenty five twenty six million a year. He's

1030
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: at least I don't think maybe. I mean, I know

1031
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham got what he got, and so wide receiver

1032
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: numbers are through the roof a little bit. Christian Kirk

1033
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: got eighteen million. Maybe he will still get twenty. But

1034
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: when you're coming off of a cheating scandal, it's not

1035
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: usually the way it goes.

1036
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, man, I'm not sure, and I think no

1037
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: one can deny Hopkins talent. You know, you know what

1038
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: he is. You know, he's definitely, you know, are gonna

1039
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 4: be the best in his position, especially looking around the

1040
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: NFL when he's playing at a high, high level. He's

1041
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: that type of talent. And I think it's just for

1042
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: him just showing how healthy he is. And you're right, man,

1043
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 4: you go to a team, Hey, all the teams with

1044
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: stack quarterbacks, they kind of got their guy. You know,

1045
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: maybe he wants to go somewhere else and be the guy.

1046
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 4: And for a long time he's felt like, Hey, I'm

1047
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: good enough to carry my weight. You know, I don't

1048
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: care about double teams. Maybe he still wants to go

1049
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: show who he is, and it may be more about opportunity.

1050
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes Mark is a free agent. You go to a

1051
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: team and you think promises. I remember one of my

1052
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 4: free agent years and I'm definitely not at the level

1053
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: of any of those guys. My mindset. I told my

1054
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 4: age and I said, man, I just want to play. Oh, like,

1055
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: get me on the court, like forget the money, Like

1056
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 4: I want to play. Put me in a situation where

1057
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 4: I can be out there. And for Hopkins, it may

1058
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 4: be about playing. You know, he may not be getting

1059
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: the same commitments that he would like, you know, other places.

1060
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: That's a good point. There's no doubt that absolutely could

1061
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: be a part of the conversation. All right, Coming up next,

1062
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: we stayed in the sport of football and try to

1063
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: figure out if the definition of insanity is that you

1064
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result, well,

1065
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: then this area of football is completely insane. We'll tell

1066
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: you what we're talking about next. That's Ryan Hollins, I mark,

1067
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: whether it's Fox Sports Radio. I mean, if we're gonna

1068
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: sit there and play this game of career earnings, I

1069
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: thought I'd go ahead and look up another player.

1070
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: You know who? I looked up here?

1071
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: You look up? Don't tell me you look me up.

1072
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: I'm still tired of you.

1073
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not trying to get up

1074
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: in another man's business. But it's on the world wide web,

1075
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like right here, do

1076
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: you even know? Do you even know what the answer is?

1077
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: Just on court earnings? Career on court earnings?

1078
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1079
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 4: I think I do it probably probably less than probably

1080
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 4: one tenth of DeAndre Hopkins. I'm somewhere one tenth of that.

1081
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: It's a it's about ride a little hot might might

1082
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: be about eleven percent.

1083
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: Eleven eleven and a half percent of DeAndre Hopkins.

1084
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: But you did you do?

1085
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: All right? It's okay, you know. Look ten seasons in

1086
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: the league, is that right? Tenth for years?

1087
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: What a skinny dude who wasn't supposed to be there.

1088
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 4: I ain't complain.

1089
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: About nothing, man, you know what I mean, no complaints.

1090
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 3: I love it. So speaking of.

1091
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: Complaints, I've got one. Why are they still trying? How

1092
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: amy different times and ways are we going to do

1093
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: this before other leagues realize you cannot play football and succeed.

1094
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: You cannot. Like we've got the NFL and that's that.

1095
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: The XFL this year they just announced lost sixty million

1096
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: dollars And I am sitting here like I knew it

1097
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: when they announced they were trying it again. It feels

1098
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: like it's the eighth time they've tried the Alliance of

1099
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: American Football, the XFL, the USFL, this FL and that

1100
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 2: FL and this FL.

1101
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: Over here.

1102
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: I got an F word to use, like, honestly, bleeping stop,

1103
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: it's not going to work. I know exactly where people

1104
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: are coming from on this. The bottom line is is

1105
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: executives see what happens to sports media ratings and television

1106
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: viewership the second that the NFL season stops. The second

1107
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: we get to the Super Bowl, an executive goes, well, oh,

1108
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: my goodness, there's a one hundred million people who were

1109
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: watching TV and now.

1110
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: They're just up for grabs. And I'm like, no, they're not.

1111
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: Like the executives act like we're just still sitting on

1112
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: the couch staring at our television waiting for something to happen.

1113
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 6: No, we got up and we went outside, we left,

1114
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 6: We went to do all the other things that we

1115
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: haven't been doing for the last four months because football stopped.

1116
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: It's so funny to me that they keep trying. Why

1117
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: are you still trying? There's one way and one way

1118
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: only that you're going to get a rival football league

1119
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: to work, and that is partner with the NFL and

1120
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: be their minor leagues. You want to do that now

1121
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: we're talking, but until then it is an absolute side

1122
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: show that will interest no one.

1123
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. You hit it right on the head.

1124
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 4: You look at the number, you see the analytics, you say,

1125
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: there's no football going you are you are one hundred

1126
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: percent right with that? I think I think the strategies

1127
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: just have been wrong. And there's two things. You watch football,

1128
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: it's a pastime. Your grandpa, your grandpa's grandpa's watch football,

1129
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: and you feel obligated to go and watch football too. Okay,

1130
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 4: that's part of it. You grew up when your dad

1131
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: was a Cowboys fan, you're a Cowboys fan. Whatever, Right,

1132
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 4: it happens. Right. Here's the thing, though, Mark, if you

1133
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: start a new league, you got to come in with

1134
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 4: the names. And if you're looking, you know who you

1135
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: should look at. If you're going to try to start

1136
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: a new league, you know who you look at soccer.

1137
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: Look at the MLS. They're getting some of the biggest

1138
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: stars and they got the money to pay them to

1139
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: come over and play. And then the league is starting

1140
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: to come with the names first. So even though that

1141
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 4: guy is older, he's passed his time, he's gonna make

1142
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: a boatload of money to just kind of chill and relax.

1143
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: But they bring the name, which brings the fans out

1144
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 4: to the game, and that's what you got to do.

1145
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you to a degree. I know that the

1146
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: money is there.

1147
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: Who just signed who just signed it in Miami?

1148
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Who was messy? Messy?

1149
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: How you kidding me, right, But at the same time, like,

1150
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: let's call the MLS what it is, man, we got

1151
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: to change those letters to s RT.

1152
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: It's the Soccer Retirement Tour.

1153
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: Like you can't.

1154
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: You can't just bring these people over once they are

1155
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: no longer the same and act like it's going to

1156
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: work at the level you want it to work. I

1157
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: hear you, but the mlsout But no, no, no, they're

1158
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: not gonna fold. You're right, So there's there's a there's

1159
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: a modicum of success.

1160
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: But if you think.

1161
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: That that's going to lead to the MLS ever climbing

1162
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: the mountain, you know, soccer has grown so much in

1163
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: a Mayora, but it's every four years there's a World

1164
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: Cup and we check in and we're like, man, people

1165
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: are really like soccer ratings are going through the roof,

1166
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: and people love soccer here in America and everybody plays

1167
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: on Thursday nights in their local fields and it's all true,

1168
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: but it is still a bajillion miles away from where

1169
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: soccer is in all of the other countries. Ryan, it's this,

1170
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: The MLS is never going to rival the European leagues.

1171
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: It's it's not if that's what they're trying to do.

1172
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't tell you what their actual goal is,

1173
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: but they're not going to be the English Premier League.

1174
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: Ever.

1175
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: The point is, I don't know if you could just

1176
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: say ever, the names are not the guys aren't going away,

1177
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: the league isn't going away, the money isn't just coming

1178
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 4: out of thin on it thin air. They're not folding,

1179
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 4: and you just hang around and you hang around, and

1180
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: I like your point earlier partner with the NFL becoming

1181
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: somewhat of a minor league. But the goal is, as

1182
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: you go and you budget this thing out, you gotta

1183
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 4: get I mean, I'd like to say Brady to play,

1184
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 4: but I feel like Rady's been doing that that whole

1185
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: tour in the actual NFL. But you gotta go and

1186
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: get names. You gotta go after. You don't need the best,

1187
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: you just need the marketable players. You gotta pay the

1188
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 4: Odell Beckhams and the the Tarrell owens Is of the world.

1189
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: And I know t O did the XFL deal at

1190
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: one point. You gotta pay those guys and you gotta

1191
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: commit and you build around them. But you gotta get

1192
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 4: the name, and you have to have enough money where

1193
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: it makes sense.

1194
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: There you go. That's the thing.

1195
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: How are you going to get any big names to

1196
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: come to a rival league, Like, look what just happened

1197
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: to golf, and they got some of the names and

1198
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: then it ended up all that ended up happening was

1199
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: an unbelievably high level merger. And do not listen to

1200
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: what anyone tells you about how live golf is now

1201
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 2: going to continue alongside the PGA Tour.

1202
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1203
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: Live Golf at the end of this year is gonna

1204
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: be done, and all the guys are gonna come right back.

1205
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to pay a little fine, and now

1206
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: they're all gonna work under the guys who turned down

1207
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: the live money. They're gonna get a big bonus, and

1208
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna meet in the middle and play on the

1209
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: same tour again. So I like, And that took billions

1210
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: of dollars from the Saudi government in order to make

1211
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: that work. Like, I don't see how a football league

1212
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: is gonna come with that kind of dough. That's why

1213
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 2: I would be like, look, we get to training camp

1214
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: in August and those players that excited you but didn't

1215
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: quite make the team, Like book, you go down to

1216
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots minor league team and and and have a

1217
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: league there, or or each division could have a league

1218
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: or whatever. But if those were like players who were

1219
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: under the rights of NFL teams, and as they succeeded,

1220
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: you're like, Ooh, should we bring that guy up? That

1221
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: running back is popping. That's something I think people would watch.

1222
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 4: I agree, I can see that. I can see teams

1223
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 4: getting behind that because it's the NFL brand. But the

1224
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: NFL may not want that. NFL may not be okay

1225
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: with that, and that's a big factor there, Mark. But

1226
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: I think the retirement strategy, you've got to look at

1227
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: the MLS if you are going to I'm telling you,

1228
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: I think that's it, and you just slowly get more

1229
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 4: and more competitive from there. But you got to build

1230
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: out with these stars, these guys that have the names.

1231
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: Already.

1232
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of names, there's one that's building that we did

1233
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: not see coming and it has created quite a debate

1234
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: this offseason in the NFL. We'll get to that in

1235
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: just a second, but we've got a merger to announce.

1236
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: We are merging with Steve de Seger and he is

1237
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: now going to become a part of the show for

1238
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: the next few minutes. So here he comes. Hi, Steve,

1239
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: how are.

1240
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: We doing equity share?

1241
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 7: Equity share for me now in this because that was.

1242
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: The absolutely this week and you can have We'll offer

1243
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: you thirty three percent of what we're making here tonight.

1244
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll retire, but you know, yeah, I

1245
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: can pay for pe what want?

1246
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1247
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you reference this PGA commissioner after this deal, apparently

1248
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 7: we'll be having the oversight over Live Golf, so he

1249
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 7: would determine if it continues.

1250
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: To exist after this year.

1251
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: An yeah, he's gonna shut it down, and then they're

1252
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: probably gonna shut him down about six months after that.

1253
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: That would be my guest.

1254
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 7: But I'm sure he has a bigger equity share than everyone.

1255
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 7: That was in the story a couple of days ago

1256
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 7: that PGA golfers who remained loyal to the tour will

1257
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 7: get equity shares in this new enterprise, but those who

1258
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 7: left for Live Golf will not. They could face penalties

1259
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 7: for leaving. The story yesterday was that the PGA reportedly

1260
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 7: said it couldn't afford the legal fight against Live Golf,

1261
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 7: so it merged. And they're merging with Live Golf and

1262
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 7: Europe's dp Tour. That ends all of the rivals ongoing

1263
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 7: litigation and that means no court case, no trial, no

1264
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 7: discovery on your business. By the way, so the PGA

1265
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 7: is now part of a for profit entity collectively owned

1266
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 7: with the Saudi Investment. They'll initially be the exclusive investor

1267
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 7: in this Saudi Arabia's public investment fund more than six

1268
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 7: hundred billion dollars in assets with a bee, and it'll

1269
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 7: now be a corporate sponsor of the tours, including the PGA.

1270
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 7: So details later, The PGA said in that huge announcement

1271
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 7: this week, all parties will work in the months to

1272
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 7: come to finalized terms of the agreement. We do know

1273
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 7: board of directors has a Saudi chair now and we'll

1274
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 7: direct all of this new entities golf related, commercial opportunities, businesses, investments.

1275
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 7: They told golfers for a couple of years it's a

1276
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 7: moral wrong to get in bed with them, and then

1277
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 7: they got in bed with them. Nick Taylor from Canada

1278
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 7: and took the Canadian Open in a playoff today, the

1279
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 7: first Canadian since nineteen fifty four to win that event.

1280
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 7: Rory McElroy very loyal to the PGA Tour, by the way,

1281
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 7: maybe he can get an equity share shot a final

1282
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 7: round seventy two, falling to a tie for ninth place.

1283
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 7: Martin Trerex Junior one Today's NASCAR race on the road

1284
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 7: Course at Sonoma, Novak Djokovic won the French Open, his

1285
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 7: record twenty third career major title. The USFL is on

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 7: Fox TV tonight's early fourth quarter. The New Jersey Generals

1287
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 7: thirty seven to twenty three over the Philadelphia Stars. I

1288
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 7: don't know how herschel Walker is doing, but this would

1289
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 7: put New Jersey at three and six on the season.

1290
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 7: Birmingham at seven and two, clinched playoffs spot winning against

1291
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 7: Memphis thirty eight to fifteen.

1292
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 3: Just so you know.

1293
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 7: The regular season ends next Sunday on FS one in Fox.

1294
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 7: The USFL Championship game is July the first Make Plans

1295
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 7: Net NBA Finals Game five Tomorrow night at Denver. Stanley

1296
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 7: Cup Game five Tuesday in Vegas. The Sunday night ballgames

1297
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 7: in the top of the ninth Boston to two tied

1298
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 7: at Yankee Stadium, Colorado, five to four over the Padres

1299
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 7: on a walk off home run right after a nearly

1300
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 7: hour and a half rain delay. The game winner from

1301
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 7: Olan Jones on a home run estimated to travel four

1302
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 7: hundred and seventy two feet. Rockies break a six game

1303
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 7: losing streak and the Padres record is now thirty one

1304
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 7: and thirty four. Mets lost again. They had lost seven

1305
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 7: straight until yesterday, lost two to one at Pittsburgh. Today

1306
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 7: Mets record thirty one and thirty five. And then there's

1307
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 7: the Oakland A's, who've won five in a row, got

1308
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 7: an eight six victory at Milwaukee. The Brewers only a

1309
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 7: couple games over five hundred bark We're tied for first

1310
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 7: with Pittsburgh in the NL Central. The Minnesota Twins wound

1311
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 7: up losers seven to six at Toronto, blowing a six

1312
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 7: to one lead midway through the game. The Twins have

1313
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 7: a record of thirty three and thirty three, and they

1314
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 7: are alone in first place in the AL Central game

1315
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 7: and a half over Cleveland, which shut out Houston five nothing.

1316
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 7: And in the College Baseball playoffs tomorrow, we know it's

1317
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 7: Tennessee at Southern miss Winter advances to the World Series.

1318
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 7: Oral Roberts had just scored again ten to five lead

1319
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 7: at Oregon and bases loaded two outs. Top of the night.

1320
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 7: Or Roberts is apparently going well. I can't say that yet.

1321
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 7: If you've seen these two played last few days, it

1322
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 7: looks like they're going to the College World Series. These

1323
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 7: two have had walk off wins one and then the

1324
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 7: other the last two nights. Virginia advanced eliminating Duke and

1325
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 7: number one wake Forest advanced to the College World Series.

1326
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 7: It hit nine home runs today in a twenty two

1327
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,440
Speaker 7: to five victory over Alabama.

1328
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: Beck to you, Steve Ryan, you may not know this

1329
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: like it's kind of become a weekly game that we play.

1330
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: Steve will come in, tell us what's going on with

1331
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: the Oakland Athletics. Then we'll laugh some, We'll look at

1332
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: the numbers, We'll go, oh my god, I can't believe

1333
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: they're that bad.

1334
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 3: And then I'll talk about how this.

1335
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: Is the worst thing an owner has ever done to

1336
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 2: their fans in the history of sports during my lifetime.

1337
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: And Steve, it's all getting ruined with this five game win.

1338
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't like this dark winning. It was like seventeen fifty.

1339
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: It is totally embarrassing, but twelve and fifties sounded way better.

1340
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 7: When they were standing. That was the lowest winning percentage

1341
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 7: ever by a team that then starts a five game

1342
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,440
Speaker 7: winning streak since nineteen hundred.

1343
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: You win five in a row, Ryan, listen to that now,

1344
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: Like we look at the standing the baseball and it's

1345
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: got the W five next to their name.

1346
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: They've won five in a row to get to seventeen

1347
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: and fifty.

1348
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 7: They're over five. They're seven and five. The last couple

1349
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 7: of weeks, start printing the playoffs.

1350
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: They spokes, they're going to catch the Royals. They're like

1351
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: right on their tail. They're like, what is it? I

1352
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: think they're like two games behind the Royals. This is

1353
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: ruining everything.

1354
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 7: Royals lost their sixth straight today. They each have about

1355
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 7: the same road record.

1356
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: Man, oh man, I don't know what your experience was

1357
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: with the owners. Now that you're retired, Ryan, you know

1358
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: you're free to to speak on it, but I've.

1359
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 4: Never seen any It's still yeah, that's true.

1360
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 3: I know you're still in the NBA. Yeah. How things

1361
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 3: going in Houston?

1362
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: By the way you got out there, I'm having the

1363
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 4: time of my life. Man.

1364
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, okay, guys, yell yell. Tried to go get

1365
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: yourself low wembin Yama. Didn't work though, did it.

1366
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: I have not made one acquisition in the offseason. That

1367
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 4: one trade. I haven't made one basket, so I have

1368
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 4: not done anything, but you have not shown.

1369
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel like that would even be I mean,

1370
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to put you in a bad spot.

1371
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: But Tillman Fertita was out there at Marty Gross screaming

1372
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: about Wemban Yama, like.

1373
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: It's all, well, we know.

1374
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: What's going on here. This guy, this guy's gonna be amazing.

1375
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: So of course, everybody, if you're not positioned to go

1376
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: win it, you're gonna try to get him. I didn't

1377
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 2: think anybody really embarrassed themselves this year, except for the

1378
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. And if I were a fan driving to

1379
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: the arena on that last night when Jason Kidd literally

1380
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: held a press conference to be like, yeah, so we're

1381
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: taking everybody out of the game and we're totally like

1382
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: not going to try to win the game, I would

1383
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: have asked for my money back.

1384
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: I would have if I were a fan that night.

1385
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that that didn't boil over as well as

1386
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: you you know, you would have thought it would have.

1387
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 4: And you know, I think Cuban's like, hey, I'm looking

1388
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: to compete. I want to win. It's it's whatever. It

1389
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 4: is do as you must, commissioner, you know. But man, Wimby,

1390
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 4: you're right, he is that type of talent that everybody

1391
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 4: was excited to go forward. You know. For my Rockets,

1392
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 4: it was a developing season. Man. Our young guys got

1393
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 4: to go out and play basketball and make mistakes and

1394
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, go go develop. But yeah, he is that

1395
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 4: type of talent. And he's in San Antonio. Seems like

1396
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: the here we go again car. But hey, man, well

1397
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 4: here we go. We'll see, we'll see how that plays out. Man,

1398
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: But he's exciting. Man, I think, Mark, I don't know

1399
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: if you want necessarily Wimby segment here, but the more

1400
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 4: that I watch him, he's just he's intriguing. He literally

1401
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 4: I'm talking to NBA guards and they're like, he's doing

1402
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: the same moves that I do, if not better. So

1403
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 4: he's intrigued.

1404
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: To say, at least he's intriguing.

1405
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can get to a little bit more of that,

1406
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: but not just the first pick in the draft. We'll

1407
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: talk about the last pick in the draft as well.

1408
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we're talking about here in a moment.

1409
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 2: We're live in the tyreck dot Com Studios. Mark Willard,

1410
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. This is Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot Com Studios.

1411
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: You know who was a machine last year? Who Brock Purty,

1412
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 2: Brock Perdy was a machine last year? The San Francisco

1413
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. Mister irrelevant basically came in in won

1414
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: eight games, and then his arm got blown up and

1415
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: that was a wrap in the NFC Championship game. But

1416
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: if he played the majority of the game, the forty

1417
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: nine Ers did not lose. And we have a really,

1418
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: really hard time as a sports society believing in something

1419
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: like that because we didn't believe in it the first

1420
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: time it was presented to us. Now, I want to

1421
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: be very careful with this point, but I wonder what

1422
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: you think about it is why I bring it up.

1423
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm not here to.

1424
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: Say that brock perty is a proven commodity and he

1425
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: is going to be amazing going forward.

1426
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: But I want to know why we're not open to that.

1427
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a few things I've heard

1428
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 2: just within the last couple of weeks. I have heard, well,

1429
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: brock Party is already who he's going to be.

1430
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 3: I have heard his ceiling is low.

1431
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: I have heard he is Jimmy Garoppolo two point zero.

1432
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: I have heard all of these things just in the

1433
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 2: last two weeks. While I can't be one hundred percent

1434
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: sure that they're not true, huh, I am certainly.

1435
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: Open to the opposite. And Ryan, I'm not a draft guy.

1436
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: I never I have a hard time getting into drafts

1437
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 2: in sports.

1438
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 3: Because there's this whole thing that happens.

1439
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: Everyone shows up the next day starts grading people. This

1440
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: team did great, that team did awful, And I'm like,

1441
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: did I miss all of the success on the field

1442
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: that these teams who were granted an.

1443
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 3: A Did I miss something?

1444
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: Talk to me three years from now, and let's find

1445
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: out how the teams actually did. I'd love for the

1446
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: NFL this year. NFL dot Com, give me the twenty

1447
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: twenty draft grades, give me the twenty nineteen draft grades.

1448
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, because that's actually real. I want

1449
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: to know why there isn't an openness to just we

1450
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: missed on this guy. We missed on him, and he

1451
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,440
Speaker 2: might actually be good. I think all of this denigration

1452
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: is totally based on the fact that the experts don't

1453
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: want to admit that they were wrong a year ago.

1454
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right about that. Hey man, Nick

1455
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 4: Foles going out and winning the Super Bowl. You know,

1456
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 4: when you are deemed to be the next thing. And

1457
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 4: especially with the quarterback position, people don't want to give

1458
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 4: up on you. Man, They don't. They don't want to

1459
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 4: get off those picks. And yeah, you're right, Mark, that

1460
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 4: is very very common man, and we've we've seen it

1461
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 4: a lot. Hey, I'm a forty nine er fan. I'm

1462
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 4: a believer. I mean, hey, you's better than than Garoppolo

1463
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 4: right now. And obviously the forty nine or system is

1464
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: very conducive to a young quarterback playing well or a

1465
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: new quarterback for seven to play well. It is, But

1466
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: I'm a believer. I'm a fan. I think we've got

1467
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 4: something good there. And when I say we, I am

1468
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 4: a forty nine er fan, I can I can be

1469
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 4: a fan when it comes to Football's.

1470
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: Let's be a part of the klan here. Yeah, man,

1471
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: we're all in on this. But I like, I guess

1472
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: this is my point. Even if you, even if you

1473
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: wanted to make the point, I got all kinds of

1474
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: numbers that will debunk this. But if somebody wanted to say,

1475
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: brock Party last year was the exact same as as

1476
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo last year. Why couldn't I go come back

1477
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: and say, Garoppolo is like a seven year veto were

1478
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: brock Perty's first eight games.

1479
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: So even if he was Jimmy, that's amazing.

1480
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: Yep, that's incredible if you can do that in your

1481
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: first eight games as a professional, especially when you were

1482
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: drafted with the last pick in the draft for some reason,

1483
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 2: because the draft grades weren't great. We look at someone

1484
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: like that, and I've heard this everywhere. People don't think

1485
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: he can get any better, or he's a function of

1486
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and Kyle Shanahan. Guess what even

1487
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: if a little bit of that is true, guess who's

1488
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: gonna play for next year?

1489
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: Ryan? He could play for forty.

1490
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: Nine Ers, Andy, Kyle Shanahan like hits the team he's on.

1491
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: So I just I don't understand this idea that he

1492
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: can't get any better because a year ago we didn't

1493
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: see him coming.

1494
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: No, I completely agree, man. I thought he was willing

1495
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 4: to push the ball down the field. He took a risk.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they look man the guy league to play

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 4: with this off arm. If I'm not mistaken, he went

1498
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 4: out this offseason and actually learned how to throw with

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: his left hand a little bit to where if there's

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 4: an emergency circumstance he can play. You hope that never

1501
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 4: happens again. By the way, Mark, that was horrible for

1502
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: the sport of football, saying guys, there's no backup this guy.

1503
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 4: He can't come out of the game right now.

1504
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's it's led to some rule changes.

1505
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: Essentially, you're gonna see the NFL have ways for guys

1506
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: to be activated as a third QB in NFL games

1507
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: coming up because of that. Like, I don't want to

1508
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: get into the hole. Oh, the forty nine ers would

1509
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,480
Speaker 2: have won, they wouldn't have won. Whatever it is, we'll

1510
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: never really know, and I know a lot of Eagles

1511
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 2: fans think we do. The bottom line is what you said.

1512
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: That's terrible. That was a highly anticipated game and we

1513
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: all gathered around to watch it, and by the second

1514
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: half it like you know it, it looked like a

1515
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: high school team taking on Pop Warner. Like you like,

1516
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: if a team literally is not able to throw a football,

1517
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: what what are we watching? That was incredibly disappointing the

1518
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: way that played out.

1519
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,480
Speaker 4: Look at the look at the NBA. The NBA introduced

1520
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 4: I think about about three or four years ago the

1521
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: two way player. So now that those two way guys

1522
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 4: have made their names in the NBA, that's that's two

1523
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: extra spots, two guys that get to develop, you know,

1524
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 4: two players per team that maybe on a on a

1525
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 4: G league unit that get to come out and play

1526
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 4: in the NBA and teams get their rights. But a

1527
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 4: lot of these two way players end up getting converted. Man,

1528
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 4: it's it's a big thing. And I'm glad the the

1529
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 4: NFL is finally catching up.

1530
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: Uh this PGA Tour Live merger that we've already discussed

1531
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit more to say about it.

1532
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: I've got a point that I'd like to try to

1533
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: make coming up next. That's not easy to make, but Ryan,

1534
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to make it, and we'll do that

1535
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: coming up next.

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Speaker 2: in for e from Salaam Tonight, having fun. Man, it's

1549
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Speaker 2: great to hear your voice. I always love getting a

1550
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: chance to do this with you.

1551
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's a blast, brother. And for those who

1552
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm always throw it out. Man. Started my

1553
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 4: career open here at the other network, and you were

1554
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 4: one of the first guys man that I got a

1555
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 4: chance to work. I'm not sure if my fa Yeah, Mark,

1556
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 4: I think my first radio show hosting was with you.

1557
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: It might have been, like I can't say that for sure,

1558
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: but I do feel like I feel like that I

1559
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: remember the first time being there with you, and I

1560
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: think if that wasn't the first, it was one of them, man, Yes,

1561
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: it was, yeah, yeah, yeah no, And it was it

1562
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: was evident right away that you had a future that

1563
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 2: was that was beyond obvious.

1564
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: And and and look.

1565
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: At us now here we are all across the nation

1566
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: on they on a Sunday night, all.

1567
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Speaker 3: Kinds of fun.

1568
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: Man, all right, I'm gonna throw this at you, and

1569
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit right out the gate this is This

1570
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: is not an easy take to have, but it is

1571
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: my belief that all of the players who went to

1572
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: Live Golf and took fifty million, seventy five million, hundred million,

1573
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: two hundred million. I don't know what Phil got, I

1574
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 2: don't know what Dustin Johnson got, hundreds of millions of dollars.

1575
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,879
Speaker 2: It is my belief that many fans and media members

1576
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: owe them an apology. And here's why. This is not

1577
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: to say they were right. This is not to say

1578
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: that if anybody is offended by money that is coming

1579
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: from the Saudi government that they're wrong. You're allowed to

1580
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,520
Speaker 2: be offended by whatever offends you, and obviously the atrocities

1581
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: that have taken place.

1582
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: There and any tie.

1583
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: I know this has been very difficult for families who

1584
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: lost loved ones in nine to eleven, for example. To me,

1585
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: that's completely it's separate. Quite frankly, it's separate from what

1586
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: happens when you get all the way down to the

1587
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: individual level. If you want to be offended by what

1588
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: the PGA tour just did, for example. I find that

1589
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 2: to be very different than what these players did on

1590
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: an individual level, and many of them were ostracized, were

1591
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: called out, we're criticized, And I really think that's difficult

1592
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: to do and somewhat disingenuous when each and every one

1593
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: of us we take money from some millionaire or some

1594
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 2: millionaire many of us and we don't know what's going

1595
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: on there.

1596
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:32,879
Speaker 3: And much of it comes from our country's government.

1597
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna call them equal, But raise your

1598
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: hand if you think everything's being done honestly and above

1599
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 2: board in the United States.

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Speaker 3: So here's what I'm really getting at.

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: If somebody offered you one hundred and fifty million dollars,

1602
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: how many questions are you asking?

1603
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: How many questions are you asking?

1604
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: And if you got answers you didn't like, would you

1605
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I'm out.

1606
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 3: I don't want a.

1607
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: Quarter of a billion dollars because I don't like the

1608
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: background of the government from which it comes.

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty.

1610
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Tough for us to put that on individuals, unless we

1611
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: all would have made the same choice.

1612
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 4: I was actually in a similar situation in the NBA,

1613
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: whatever it may be. I was on the Clippers when

1614
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 4: the Donald Sterling stuff kind of came out and a

1615
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: couple a couple of people were thrown out to us,

1616
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 4: don't play the game, you know, sit out, missed the game.

1617
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: And it's like, for one, when not a nar one

1618
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 4: of y'all pass up on NBA money. I worked my

1619
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 4: whole life to make it to the NBA, and whenever

1620
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 4: his actions were weren't at the time, wasn't mine to judge,

1621
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 4: for one, but for too. I also, like I believe

1622
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 4: in the NBA. That didn't establish who I was and

1623
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 4: all the hard work that I put in, Nor am

1624
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: I going to pass up that money or jeopardize my

1625
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: future at the moment. And I didn't see anything that

1626
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 4: I was doing from playing in that game as being

1627
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: wrong or just despicable or unethical, you know. But there

1628
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 4: were some people saying, you know, why are you going

1629
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: to play in this game? Go go sit out the game,

1630
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 4: you know, don't don't don't play make a statement, you know,

1631
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: And I wasn't. I just did not see it like that.

1632
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 4: And I don't think a lot of people that worked

1633
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 4: their whole life to get to one situation would throw

1634
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 4: it away over something. Now now, granted if I thought

1635
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: that some amazing change would happen through our society, our life.

1636
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 4: And I'm not against anyone, and I respect anyone who

1637
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 4: who makes those those choices. I'm not mistaken wna player

1638
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 4: mind more. She stepped away from basketball and said, man,

1639
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of injustices going on that I want

1640
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 4: to go and fight and I want to go and

1641
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 4: be a part of. And that is that is her choice.

1642
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 4: Irving has gotten behind a number of calls. Is whether

1643
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 4: you agree with him or not, that is his personal

1644
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: choice to make. So we all carve out our own destiny.

1645
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 4: I don't and I'm just saying I don't think it's

1646
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 4: proper to judge someone because of what they did or

1647
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 4: didn't do. You know, you got to take care of

1648
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 4: your platform. We all use it in different ways.

1649
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: I know where people come from when they're like, look,

1650
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: did Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka, Phil Mickelson, Greg Norman

1651
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: did they need that money?

1652
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: No? No?

1653
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: But does that mean once you are financially free, you're

1654
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,839
Speaker 2: not supposed to try to make more. You're not supposed

1655
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: to take more opportunities Like I was impressed by the

1656
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 2: Rory mcelroys.

1657
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 3: The Tiger Woods is the John Rams.

1658
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: There's one thing John Rahm said that I've been waiting

1659
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: for an athlete to say my entire life or any

1660
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, sports multi millionaire.

1661
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 3: In other words, I've.

1662
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Always looked at the decisions that were made contractually or

1663
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: what have you, and I think to myself, Gosh, here's

1664
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: what I would do.

1665
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 3: But I also I can't pretend that I've walked in

1666
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 3: those shoes.

1667
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: I've Unfortunately, Ryan, I've never been a millionaire, and I

1668
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: don't know what I would do in that situation. I

1669
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: would think that, for example, if someone was offering me

1670
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: ten million dollars and then somewhere where I really wanted

1671
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: to go offered me eight, I'd be like, I'll take

1672
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: the eight because I really want to be there. And

1673
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 2: in the end, I either am totally able to do

1674
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: whatever I want in my life or I'm totally able

1675
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: to do whatever I want in my life. What's the

1676
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 2: difference between a million here or there when you're making

1677
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: tons and tons of millions of dollars. But I've always

1678
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: acknowledged that that's a judgment I make from a place

1679
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 2: of lack of education, because I've never done that before.

1680
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: I've never been in that spot. But John Rahm came

1681
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: out and said, look, yeah, Live offered him probably, I

1682
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 2: mean definitely nine figures. I don't know what the number was,

1683
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: but he's one of the top players in the world.

1684
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: He absolutely probably got offered between one hundred and two

1685
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. And he sat there, he said, I

1686
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: sat down and I talked to my wife and we said, well,

1687
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: where do you want to be? Well, I want to

1688
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: be on the PGA tour. Okay, how does our life change?

1689
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 2: This is a crazy statement. How does our life change

1690
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: if we take that money? They looked at each other

1691
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 2: and went, it doesn't all right? Then we're moving on.

1692
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: And he didn't take the money. And I'm impressed by

1693
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: that answer. However, I think it's a big leap to

1694
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: love that answer, but then go criticize the people who

1695
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 2: did take the money. Like Ryan, you ever go to

1696
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: the grocery store, all those things that you put in

1697
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: your cart, do you know what the billionaire is doing,

1698
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: the billionaire that's behind each of those products that you're funding.

1699
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: Do you know the billionaire who's behind the actual grocery

1700
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: store itself. Do you know what they're all about you

1701
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: know where it's coming from.

1702
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 4: I might not know even what's in the stuff that

1703
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 4: I'm eating. Market has a whole nother conversation, do you.

1704
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1705
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: So I just all I'm saying. I'm not saying whether

1706
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: I would have made the same decision. This is certainly

1707
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:41,879
Speaker 2: no support of anything behaviorally and functionally with the Saudi government.

1708
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: And the atrocity has been absolutely you don't need me

1709
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: to say that it's been it's been awful. But I

1710
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: think that those players from some people got more criticism

1711
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 2: than they deserved because they are all the way down

1712
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 2: at the end individual level.

1713
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest.

1714
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: The contract that I have for my radio job Monday

1715
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 2: through Friday, it is a contract with a major conglomerate.

1716
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: And I have no damn clue what the people at

1717
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: the top are doing.

1718
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 3: I have no clue. I've never thought about it for

1719
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 3: a second in my life.

1720
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah no, Hey, you know what, and it's and it's

1721
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 4: not your business to know. And I think everybody has

1722
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: their own mindset those decisions, and I think the ignorance

1723
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 4: is bliss. Sometimes you can dig as far as you

1724
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 4: you want to. You go find something you might not

1725
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 4: like and in a lot of places, shooting with a

1726
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 4: lot of us, even in our own homes unfortunately. So

1727
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 4: I think to eat to each its own man, And

1728
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 4: I think if there's something that you love, you have

1729
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 4: to do it feels right with you and your soul.

1730
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 4: If you feel like taking that money is sudden, big,

1731
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 4: you take the money. If you you feel like, hey,

1732
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 4: you know it's not gonna bother me, it's not that

1733
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 4: big of a deal, or hey I can I just

1734
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 4: want to play. You know, it's not about the money.

1735
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 4: It's playing with the best. You have to do that.

1736
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 4: You gotta make whatever choice you're gonna live with. And

1737
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 4: I got a rule, man, I never count another man's money.

1738
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 4: It ain't mine to count. And I don't want nobody

1739
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 4: doing that to me. I don't know what someone's household is,

1740
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 4: or you know how they pay their bills and years

1741
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 4: some people can go, oh they make millions of dollars, Well,

1742
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 4: they got million dollar bills too, Okay, so it ain't like,

1743
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: you know, we live in our simple houses and did

1744
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 4: like us, and then they're just millions of dollars there

1745
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 4: they pay for boats, yachts and corporations. Who knows what

1746
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 4: is going on? So, like I said, you just don't

1747
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 4: count another man's money, or another person's mother, woman's money,

1748
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 4: anyone's money for that fatter fact of the matter. That's

1749
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 4: my opinion on the matter.

1750
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: I usually don't do that either. Until I did it

1751
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: to you about an hour ago. You sure did. Look

1752
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 3: you did.

1753
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just just on court though I know you

1754
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 2: off court earnings too, So it's not like I look.

1755
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 4: At you, You're not done. Look at you.

1756
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Well, I imagine you're gonna get paid for tonight, you know,

1757
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 2: So there's obviously a little bit more.

1758
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 3: What would you have done? What would you have done?

1759
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 2: You're a PGA Tour player, You're a top ten player,

1760
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: and uh so money is not an issue. You're you're made,

1761
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: You're made for life. But but here comes this rival league.

1762
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: You've got to leave. You've got to leave your league.

1763
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: You don't get to play there anymore, and you go

1764
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: play a completely different format. However, you are given a

1765
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: massive appearance fee nine figure appearance fee plus your purses

1766
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 2: on a weekly basis are guaranteed and higher.

1767
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,919
Speaker 3: You go under staying I'm out.

1768
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 4: I am out, I'm taking them. But man, I never

1769
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 4: made you know, change your life. Money live different money.

1770
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking that money, okay, Now, if I made that

1771
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 4: money and I'm good and I'm at that, you know,

1772
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: for NBA player, I'm ring chasing, so to speak, or

1773
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm just playing because I love the game. Yeah, I

1774
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 4: can pass on the money, you know, That's where I am.

1775
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: But but me personally, I'm likely I'm taking that money.

1776
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 4: Mark Man, I don't know what you're talking about.

1777
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 3: Wow, I just you know, love.

1778
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,879
Speaker 2: I love the guys who didn't do it, simply because,

1779
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 2: like my thought as a fan was, I don't want

1780
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: half the good players over there and half the good

1781
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 2: players over here. We want everyone to play on the

1782
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 2: same tour. But that's just me as a fan. The

1783
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 2: way it's circling back now, I don't know, I don't

1784
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 2: even necessarily know who was right, because the guys who

1785
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: took it are fine to come back in. The guys

1786
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 2: who didn't take it are going to get a huge bonus,

1787
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 2: and they're probably all gonna meet in the middle, you know,

1788
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 2: So I don't even necessarily know who was right.

1789
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 3: From that perspective, I gravitate to the guys who stayed.

1790
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: Because it kept the tour together on some level, but

1791
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: I got nothing bad to say about anybody on either side.

1792
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 4: I'll give you one. And I'm not sure where you

1793
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 4: stand morally on this, but I think, knowing the man

1794
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 4: you are, this may compromise and some may. It's may

1795
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 4: it may not. What if you know, I was an

1796
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 4: adult network and I like the Mark Willard Show, and

1797
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: I'm willing to throw a lot of money for Mark

1798
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 4: Willard to come do his thing on my network.

1799
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, sports talk on an adult network.

1800
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 4: Who knows, I don't know. Let's say it's you know,

1801
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: something you may not stay or some people may. Okay,

1802
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 4: I'll give you for instance, shout out to my guy,

1803
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 4: Paul Pierce. Shout out to p p Paul has chosen

1804
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 4: to just say, hey man, this is how I'm going

1805
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: to live my life. I'm doing it in this certain way.

1806
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 4: And you know, the whole I guess ESPN thing was

1807
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 4: kind of you know, they were frowned upon. I guess

1808
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 4: some of his behaviors, so to speak. But he was like,

1809
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do what makes me happy, and I'm gonna

1810
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 4: take money from I'm gonna go work here, work there.

1811
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 4: That's what I choose to do, you know. So Mark,

1812
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess that will be the radio

1813
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 4: or media equivalent. If there's a lot of money, Mark

1814
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 4: Willard coming, you know, do your NBA thing with us.

1815
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 3: How much are we talking about here? Yeah? How much

1816
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 3: I live? Golf?

1817
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: Man, They're they're throwing out a couple hundreds of millions

1818
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 4: or what what it looks significant? Two three times what

1819
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 4: you're making.

1820
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1821
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to tell Scott Shapiro here at

1822
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio that I'll be in touch. We're gonna

1823
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: have That's That's that's what I would say to that.

1824
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 2: So all right, Coming up next, we gotta circle back

1825
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: to our original discussion some of these aging vets, yet

1826
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: they have big names. Where should they land? Should they

1827
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: land at all? We'll get to that here in just

1828
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,160
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Speaker 2: dot Com with Ryan Hollinds, Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.

1833
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 2: All right, what live INTHETIRAG dot com Studios, Mark within

1834
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollind's in for E from Salam to Night. I

1835
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: want to get your reaction to what Kyrie said about

1836
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Lebron and the Dallas Mavericks just a few days ago.

1837
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: I got some thoughts on that too, But before we

1838
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: do that, let me just talk about it in a

1839
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 2: more general sense. We had a conversation in the first

1840
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: hour about this, but it was broad.

1841
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 3: It was about a lot.

1842
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: Of players, names, veterans, guys who are aging. Let's let's

1843
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: focus on one for a second. Kyrie Irving, like.

1844
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 3: Really you want that? You want that man on your team.

1845
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I play with Kyrie. I will take Kyrie right now.

1846
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 3: Tell me about Kyrie the teammate in your your experience.

1847
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 4: Great dude, takes care of his teammates, you know, stays

1848
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 4: to himself, not afraid to speak up when needed. Kyrie

1849
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 4: was a rookie when I played with him, so obviously

1850
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 4: he's far more experienced and than he was then. But

1851
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 4: I mean, just like a good guy. He's not a

1852
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 4: bad guy, and you know, not at all. So I

1853
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 4: have no problems playing with Kyrie, no problems being around him,

1854
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 4: working working with them. He's a good dude. You see

1855
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 4: what he does for charity. You see what you know,

1856
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 4: the stuff that he does, I think. You know, obviously

1857
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 4: I would be lying to you if I said some

1858
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: of the decisions that he made. I made question in

1859
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 4: the locker room of hey, man, like, let's get to basketball.

1860
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: You know, as long as he's not sidetracked and he's

1861
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 4: in it, I have no problem, zero problems with with Kyrie.

1862
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't lying if I say, man, we're

1863
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 4: going for a championship and you know something else is

1864
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 4: going on. You know, that could be frustrating. But I

1865
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 4: don't think it overshadows or it's to the point where

1866
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 4: people are like they don't want to play with him.

1867
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 4: And I told you I spoke with those in Dallas's organization.

1868
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 4: They like Kyrie. It wasn't that the Kyrie came and

1869
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 4: messed it up when his fault. That was not what

1870
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: went on over Aaron Dallas.

1871
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: That's actually that that doesn't surprise me. I don't.

1872
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's like a bad person, bad teammate.

1873
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: I think depends on your definition of it. But as

1874
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 2: much as I'm down on the idea of my favorite

1875
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 2: team bringing in Kyrie Irving, no matter who I'm rooting

1876
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: for what you're saying doesn't necessarily surprise me. I don't

1877
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: think he's a bad person. I don't think he's like,

1878
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, awful to be around. And when when I

1879
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: look at his story, I have no doubt that he

1880
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: feels like the most misunderstood person in the entire world.

1881
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: And I bet he largely is. But there's only so

1882
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 2: much from the outside that we get to know. Like

1883
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 2: if I had a chance to talk to Kyrie, this

1884
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 2: is what I would tell him, because he's reached a

1885
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,959
Speaker 2: point in his career where he is clearly very bothered

1886
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 2: by the questions he gets. He's very bothered by the

1887
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: opinions of him that he hears. I would talk to

1888
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: him and say, what choice do we all have? You

1889
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 2: often don't let people in, and that's your choice. You

1890
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 2: can be as private as you want to be, But

1891
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 2: in professional sports, when you have the name value, you make,

1892
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,959
Speaker 2: the money you make, yet you want to stay private

1893
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: and keep your decisions and opinions to yourself in a

1894
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: certain way, like the price to pay is that if

1895
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 2: you don't fill in the gaps, we will. This is

1896
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 2: what I would I if I had an opportunity, And

1897
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: again similar as what is I said about the golfers

1898
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 2: and and and being multi millionaires. I've never been a celebrity,

1899
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 2: so I don't I don't know what it's like. I

1900
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 2: have a ton of compassion. I think a lot of

1901
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: people look at celebrity. Oh gosh, life must be so

1902
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 2: damn easy. You got all the money, you get all

1903
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: the attention, the big house, the fancy car.

1904
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 3: That's that's winning.

1905
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 2: I think being in the fish bowl sometimes must really

1906
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 2: really stink.

1907
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 3: I bet that.

1908
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is is if you don't if

1909
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: you don't speak to what's going on the world in.

1910
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 3: A social media situation, will.

1911
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: Fill in the blanks for you, and that's gonna make

1912
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: you misunderstood. So I have no doubt that he is.

1913
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: But in the end, Ryan, the tail of the tape

1914
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 2: is the tail of the tape. He went to Boston,

1915
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 2: it went sideways. He went to Brooklyn, Katie went with him,

1916
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: it went sideways. He went to Dallas. Whether it was

1917
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: his fault or not, it got worse. I mean, three strikes,

1918
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 2: you're out. You're supposed to be an NBA star, You're

1919
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to fix those things, and everything

1920
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 2: seems to get worse when he shows up for the

1921
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: last five years of his career.

1922
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 4: Look, I don't listen. I'm with you, I think, and

1923
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 4: you know, with the Celtics, I think, you know, the

1924
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 4: ball was dropped. I think with the Nets, I think, hey,

1925
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 4: they didn't develop culture. That's something that was missing. Those

1926
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 4: guys are established and proven, and I'm sure everyone in

1927
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 4: that you know, Net situation will have their own story.

1928
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 4: Hey heck, it impressed me that Kevin Durant was moved

1929
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 4: to tears over it. I'm not seen, man. He really

1930
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 4: wanted to win and kind of do do his thing

1931
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 4: over it just unfortunately didn't work out. But ultimately I

1932
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 4: do agree with you, you know, and you put it well

1933
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 4: there you just said. You said, Hey, when you're one

1934
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 4: of those guys, those expectations are there for you. You

1935
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 4: are expected to handle yourself in a certain way. You

1936
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 4: are going to be, you know, under the microscope, and

1937
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 4: you don't get to just kind of on one sense,

1938
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 4: you know, hey, I'm the best player in the world,

1939
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 4: and then the next sense kind of like I don't

1940
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 4: feel like doing it today. You know you're gonna be

1941
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 4: under that scrutiny. So you're absolutely right. I do agree

1942
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 4: with you. I think their situations Kyrie would like to

1943
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 4: have back. Hey, I think there are situations young Lebron

1944
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 4: would have liked to have back the decision. And I

1945
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 4: think he's made good on it, you know, since then.

1946
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 4: So I think it's just and it's all part of

1947
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 4: the territory. Man, It's all relatives. So I agree. Like

1948
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not gonna, you know, pretend that Kyrie

1949
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 4: hadn't made any mistakes. But I am not going to

1950
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 4: stand here and let anybody just assassinate his character. I

1951
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 4: do not don't subscribe to that.

1952
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I for me, it's not about that at all.

1953
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 2: It's about basketball. And I'll admit maybe a bias here

1954
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: that like this is kind of a a San Francisco

1955
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 2: Baiery opinion. Like people here are are still in some

1956
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 2: respects bummed out or angry or dismissive about the idea

1957
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant left.

1958
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 3: And the feeling here is that.

1959
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: You left the Warriors for Kyrie, and so now there's

1960
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: very much a how'd that work out for you?

1961
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1962
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 2: Like you picked Kyrie over Steph and had that work

1963
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: out for you?

1964
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 3: So there is a little bit of that. There's a

1965
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 3: little bit of that.

1966
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 4: Look, man, there's always gonna be a salty swordfish with

1967
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 4: a play that great moves over right, mark in my standpoint,

1968
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 4: when an organization chose to waive me or trade me

1969
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 4: or move on, and I'm glad I never never were

1970
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 4: happening in like a bad way or there's tasteful way,

1971
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 4: but like it went like like they're win there, Like

1972
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 4: oh no, you just you know, waved Ryan Hollins. How

1973
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 4: cout you guys do that? You monsters? It's like, nah,

1974
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 4: so anyse players do what they gotta do. I am

1975
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 4: not tripping an I'm sorry.

1976
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm with you.

1977
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 2: But but you know, when when Kevin Durant left, it

1978
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 2: felt like there was a lot more meat on the bone,

1979
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: and now suddenly kind of doesn't doesn't it.

1980
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 4: No, Look I get no, I understand. And they feel

1981
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 4: that way about the great players. That is just part

1982
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 4: of it. And you know they don't care about the

1983
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 4: riot Hollins is. So there is a level when the

1984
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant step up and make those moves, I'm like, eh,

1985
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 4: deal with it. Welcome to what the rest of us

1986
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 4: players have to deal with?

1987
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of welcome, welcome to Welcome to Steve de Seger.

1988
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 3: Let's get Steven here. Let's find out now what is

1989
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 3: trending on this Sunday night. Hello Steve, Hello again, gentlemen.

1990
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 7: In Game five of the NBA Finals his tomorrow night

1991
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 7: at Denver. The Nuggets lead the series three games to one. Denver,

1992
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 7: until last Sunday had won seventh straight overall. Of course,

1993
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 7: it took him a month to play seven games, but

1994
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 7: that included the four games sweep of the Lakers in

1995
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 7: the West Final. Nuggets have been a great home team

1996
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 7: until last week, and it was forty three and seven

1997
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 7: at home. They had been nine and oh at home

1998
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 7: in these playoffs, but the league records still ten and

1999
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 7: O at home. It's a three games to one lead

2000
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 7: against the heat of Game six would be Thursday in Miami.

2001
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup Game five is Tuesday in Vegas, with the

2002
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 7: Golden Knights leading three games to one against Florida. Neither

2003
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 7: franchise has ever won the Cup. Last night, Vegas led

2004
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 7: three to nothing in the second period and held on

2005
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 7: for a three to two victory. Tonight's Boston wins in

2006
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,759
Speaker 7: ten innings three to two at the Yankees, winning pitcher

2007
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 7: Ken Lee Jansen Yankee offense with just three hits. Colorado

2008
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 7: five to four over the Padres on a walk off

2009
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 7: home run after a near ninety minute rain delay. San

2010
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 7: Francisco thirteen three winners against the Cubs as Jack Peterson

2011
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 7: went four for four, two homers, four RBIs and four

2012
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 7: runs scored. The Angel Shoeotani had three hits in a

2013
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 7: win over Seattle nine to four. Arizona, though scored four

2014
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 7: runs in the top of the ninth who win at

2015
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 7: Detroit seven to five. Tigers have lost ninth straight. The

2016
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks have won five in a row. They are first

2017
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 7: place in the NL West, now three and a half

2018
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 7: games head of the Dodgers, who lost on an all

2019
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 7: bullpen day seven to three at Philadelphia. Phil's record up

2020
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 7: to thirty two and thirty three. Pittsburgh beat the Mets

2021
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 7: two to one, Tampa Bay another victory. Oakland won its

2022
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 7: fifth in a row Cleveland and Washington with wins. That

2023
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 7: Nationals win was at Atlanta six to two. The Braves

2024
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 7: seven game winning streak is over Toronto and Baltimore with

2025
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 7: victories Cincinnati and Miami as well. Miami with two in

2026
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 7: the eight three and the ninth to win six five

2027
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 7: at the White Sox. Just yesterday, Miami got five runs

2028
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 7: in the ninth to win. Luisa Riaz of the Marlins

2029
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 7: went one for five. His batting average is down to

2030
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 7: three ninety seven. In the college baseball playoffs, Number one

2031
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 7: Wake Forest advanced to the World Series. Haven't been to

2032
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 7: the World Series since it won the national title in

2033
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 7: nineteen fifty five. All Roberts Tonight advance, winning at Oregon

2034
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 7: eleven to six. Oh are You's first World Series appearance

2035
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:19,959
Speaker 7: now since nineteen seventy eight. LSU advanced, eliminating Kentucky. Virginia

2036
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,799
Speaker 7: also advanced, eliminating Duke and Tonight in baseball at Stanford

2037
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 7: tie two to two with Texas top of the fifth.

2038
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 7: The opener of the best of three went to Texas

2039
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 7: with five runs in the ninth. Last night and tomorrow

2040
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 7: there's a game three with Tennessee at Southern miss winner advances.

2041
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 7: Novak Djokovic won the French Open. Nick Taylor from Canada

2042
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 7: took golfs Canadian Open in a playoff. Martin Truex Junior

2043
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 7: won today's NASCAR race on the road course at Sonoma,

2044
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 7: and the New York Giants star running back Sakuon Barkley

2045
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 7: will skip this week's mandatory mini camp. He still hasn't

2046
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 7: signed as franchise tender, wanting a new contract.

2047
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 2: Bif to you, Oh, the running back position in the

2048
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 2: NFL is always to be hotly debated, right, I mean,

2049
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 2: think about it. Barkley doesn't want to sign Zeke Elliott,

2050
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 2: Let go, Dalvin.

2051
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Cook, let go.

2052
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 2: I can tell you here, like the forty nine Ers

2053
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 2: gave up a draft hall to bring in Christian McCaffrey

2054
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 2: and they have none regrets, like none regrets with the

2055
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 2: way that he played. But it's interesting, man, I'm not sure,

2056
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: like you know, before the McCaffrey situation with the forty

2057
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 2: nine ers, and maybe it's rare and maybe he continues

2058
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: to struggle with injury. He didn't last year, but maybe

2059
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 2: he does in his future. But it feels like, by

2060
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: and large, it's just a position where when given the

2061
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,839
Speaker 2: opportunity to pay a running back a lot of money,

2062
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't.

2063
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it depends on the running back. You know,

2064
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 4: those guys who don't take a lot of hits, that can,

2065
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 4: you know, play with skill. I get it, you know,

2066
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 4: they can have a little more longevity. But for the

2067
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 4: most part. Trust me, I understand there's some guys taking

2068
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 4: hits that's just not gonna last too long. But a

2069
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 4: guy like McCaffrey, he's a very skilled player, so you know,

2070
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 4: you assume he can play at a high level for

2071
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 4: a while. You know, Le'Veon Bell was one that could

2072
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 4: have kept up. I think just he missed that, he

2073
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 4: missed that window, should have took the money. But it's

2074
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 4: the guys who don't take the punishment. It's this the

2075
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 4: martial faulks that played for you know, forever.

2076
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: I feel like there's just there's some outliers throughout the

2077
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 2: league where you're like, well, hold on, Matt's different and

2078
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 2: and maybe it's just luck, you know what I mean.

2079
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Like if when I look at the Tennessee Titans, my god,

2080
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 2: they have to have Derrick Henry, like you have got

2081
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: that that that.

2082
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 3: Is just that's that's everything.

2083
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 2: And maybe McCaffrey would be the other example right now,

2084
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 2: even though that's a small sample, that was only a

2085
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,719
Speaker 2: little bit more than half of a year where he

2086
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: was with the forty nine ers, but essentially when he

2087
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: became starter, they never lost another football game. But if

2088
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 2: you go around the league, I really don't know, if

2089
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 2: I can think of any other situation that is a

2090
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 2: comp where a team either should pay someone or has

2091
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 2: paid someone and feels good about it. You know, the

2092
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,440
Speaker 2: Cowboys paid Zeke and the second they did it was like, whoops,

2093
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 2: that probably wasn't the right idea. Now the Vikings are

2094
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 2: moving on from Dalvin Cook. I think of situations like

2095
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,839
Speaker 2: Todd Gurley not that long ago with the Los Angeles Rams.

2096
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: It's just you know, you mentioned Le'Veon Bell. There have

2097
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: been a bunch of other situations like that where either

2098
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 2: a team.

2099
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 3: Won't do it, or if they do, they immediately regret it.

2100
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, it feels like nine times

2101
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: out of ten if you're going back and forth with

2102
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: that decision, the right one is don't.

2103
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and hey, here's her Derrick Henry. He takes the punishment,

2104
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 4: but he's ninety percent of your offense. So you're just

2105
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to run the risk there. You know, Hey,

2106
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,839
Speaker 4: can you afford to do it or not? How valuable

2107
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 4: is that player. He's the identity of the organization when

2108
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 4: he's out. There's just hey, they're not the same, so

2109
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 4: you know you're right and running back that position is tough.

2110
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 4: So you know, that's why guys have to hold out.

2111
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 4: They got to take that money when they can get it. Man,

2112
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 4: I feel bad for you know, my NFL brothers. Man,

2113
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 4: when it comes to that money, down to that money,

2114
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 4: they gotta take it. Just the longevity is not there.

2115
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 4: And you talk about guys falling off a cliff, man,

2116
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean in their primes the very next year they're

2117
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 4: not even on a roster, just depending on who it

2118
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,560
Speaker 4: is and in the position. And you know we've seen it.

2119
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 3: Man.

2120
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 4: Remember DeMarco Murray, he went to the Eagles and just

2121
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 4: was never the same. Man. It just it happens too much.

2122
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: They pop and then it feels like it's snap of

2123
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: a finger.

2124
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 3: They're they're old, yes that position.

2125
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, I look at Alvin Kamara right now,

2126
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 2: and if you back go back five years and think

2127
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 2: about how you felt about that guy, You're like, that's

2128
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 2: the biggest game changing player in your leave. And then

2129
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 2: and then three years later you're like, what happened? There

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 2: was a legal situation, something's going on there, and like

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Speaker 2: now it feels like, gosh, if you could probably get

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Speaker 2: out from underneath that, you probably would. It happens so

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Speaker 2: fast at that position in the NFL. All right, coming

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Speaker 2: up next, we'll get you some final thoughts. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to hear what you think about this Britney grinder situation

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Speaker 2: that is developing with the w NBA and the Phoenix

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Speaker 2: at Mercury. So we'll hop into that coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Mark will and Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Radio. That's where

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Speaker 2: the eyes are looking.

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Speaker 3: Swing of the putter comes up with some speed. Now

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Speaker 3: up the rise for the eagle, for the wind. Tell

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Speaker 3: the guy take.

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Speaker 4: The crowd is over the road, is over the.

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Speaker 2: Tailor with eagle the twenty twenty three RBC Canadian Open champion.

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Speaker 3: This stree, this stree.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by far and away, the loudest golf call

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Speaker 2: you've ever heard, right, I mean, they just want to

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Speaker 2: abandon golf voice. Just start screaming at the RBC Canadian Open.

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Speaker 2: Ryanhollins in the tire rack dot com studios. You see

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Speaker 2: this situation as the WNBA is calling it. A provocateur

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Speaker 2: at the airport who confronted and filmed Britney Griner and

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01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 2: some Phoenix Mercury teammates has got a national debate ongoing

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01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: about the w n b A and the way they

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01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 2: travel because they largely do not charter planes and therefore

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01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 2: do not have the privacy and protection that has afforded

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Speaker 2: NBA players and many players of other sports at that level.

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Speaker 3: How does that grab you? What do you think about that?

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01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 4: The way they travel or the way they feel about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, it can be either.

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Speaker 2: But what's immediately sort of hopped to the forefront here

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Speaker 2: is whether or not the w n b A should

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Speaker 2: be able to charter jets. And there are rules within

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Speaker 2: the league that I actually think are still not really

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01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 2: common knowledge. I will tell you that the WNBA, because

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Speaker 2: of Britney Grinder's specific situation before the season started, they

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Speaker 2: did approve for her to fly on a charter and

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Speaker 2: for the Mercury to pay for it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we have the exact details as of yet as

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Speaker 2: to why she wasn't and why she was just at

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Speaker 2: the airport with everybody else and then was confronted and

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Speaker 2: put in an uncomfortable situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, as their celebrity continues to grow, they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to They're gonna have to travel different. I think

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01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 4: for the ladies, they got to keep fighting for their power.

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01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 4: They got to keep speaking out. That's the only way

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Speaker 4: that they're gonna continue to grow. Obviously, we know at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's still a business and

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01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 4: when you go out and you prove your value, you're

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01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: gonna get more and more opportunity. So that ad it's

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01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 4: a big part of it. They got to go to bed,

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01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 4: They gotta fight and do their own dirty work because

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Speaker 4: nobody else is going to at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: So I look, you like it, I love it. I

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Speaker 4: think that's that's just a part of things that that

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Speaker 4: should go on in terms of Britney Grinder, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough situation, man, her show up to the

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Speaker 4: airport or just having to deal with stuff and you

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Speaker 4: know her, her celebrity is just even just skyrocketed, you know,

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Speaker 4: and going going for shop. So I understand it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: they got to just keep fighting, man. And they're a

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Speaker 4: professional league. They want they want the same respect as

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Speaker 4: the NBA. They're the lady NBA. They just got to

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Speaker 4: keep fighting for it in terms of traveling on a

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Speaker 4: bus or or just you know, public transportation. Man, I

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01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 4: played overseas at U c l A. I didn't see

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01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 4: what what a charter plane was until I went to

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Speaker 4: the National Championship. So you know, sometimes that is just

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Speaker 4: a part of sports. But for the ladies, man, they

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 4: want their respect and they they got to keep beating

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Speaker 4: the door down. That's the only way to get it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the numbers. I don't know what they're

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Speaker 4: bringing in. I don't know what they're making, what they're

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Speaker 4: not making, And you know, they got to take a dive, man.

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Speaker 4: But I think if anything, going out and fighting and

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Speaker 4: bringing the public knowledge to it is big, and that's

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Speaker 4: something that they want to acquire.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: How long ago was it that NBA players were flying

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Speaker 2: commercial I'll give you, but I'll.

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Speaker 4: Give you no, I'll give you. I'll give you a

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Speaker 4: little a little bit of context. I don't remember, and

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Speaker 4: I've played ten years in the NBA. I've been out

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Speaker 4: the league about seven or eight years now. I tell

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Speaker 4: you this much. Houston Rockets, we just got a new plane.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Tilman for Tita. It is beautiful, man,

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Speaker 4: it is something else. We have brand brand new plane.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is like, this is like nothing I've

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Speaker 4: ever seen before. Mark right, And when I was on

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Speaker 4: the plane this year this season, team just got it.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's amazing. I mean it's almost too much space.

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Speaker 4: When I'm When I was on the plane, there's a

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Speaker 4: team event and they brought the plane up and you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, all the former Rockets were there, season ticket

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01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 4: holders and everybody in the incomplete organization was there. And

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Speaker 4: I kind of took for granted being on the plane,

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Speaker 4: and the coach Rudy, tom Danovich, akeem Elijahwan, Mario, Elie Calvin,

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Speaker 4: all these guys got on the plane, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, all right, here's a plane, this

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Speaker 4: and that, you know, because I'm playing on this thinging

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Speaker 4: eighty two games at two three in the morning.

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Speaker 3: You're tired.

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Speaker 4: You just want to get home. You don't care where

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Speaker 4: you are, and they just the whole event that for

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 4: a while, they just sat on the plane and they're

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Speaker 4: just like, look at this. Do you know why they

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01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 4: felt that way? Mark because they traveled commercial, they traveled

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01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 4: did travel wasn't nowhere near that look jurious And they're

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Speaker 4: looking at it and saying, man, look and where the

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01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 4: NBA has gone. And I think it was one of

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Speaker 4: the coolest things that I had seen. But I had

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Speaker 4: to realize, like, man, these guys went out and fought

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Speaker 4: for us to have this opportunity, but they're just cherishing

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Speaker 4: the moment on this plane. Ain't going Is this really real?

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01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 4: This is the NBA that we helped build.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 2: And and that's not to suggest that the WNBA shouldn't uh,

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Speaker 2: they should at one point, I'd love to see people

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Speaker 2: stop making though is even you know, oh, what do

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Speaker 2: they bring in compared to what the NBA brings.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. They're like,

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01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 3: we've sort of lost this way.

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Speaker 2: I think in corporate America, like you're allowed to do

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Speaker 2: things right even if it costs a little bit more money,

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01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 2: especially with the NBA's uh subsidizing of the League. So

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Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there, but you're right, man,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago. Hey man, great stuff. Fun

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Speaker 2: talking to you any time.

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Speaker 4: Brother, we'll talk. We'll talk, so.

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Speaker 3: Mark, I know we'll do it again. For Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 3: I'm Mark Whellard. Good night,