1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Did Eminem fifty sent killed or saw nothing take credit 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: for it? 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: God bless so fifty. 4 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Congrats on your star man. 5 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: Hollywood is making official what I knew from the beginning. 6 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 4: And its fifty involvement in this situation. 7 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, for some people, it's tough to accept that you 8 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: got a white artist that does it better than black artists. 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: If a person defends that music, we ain't even the 10 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: same nig that's just trash, bro. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: I want to know, do you hate Emminem. 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm got none against some of them, none against some 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: of the event can rap. It's only his face is 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: going to pop up because he sold all the record. 15 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: But I was amazed that your ego had you trying 16 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: to go rap like bawful ball right, I'm an ego like. 17 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: I always wondered, like where it started from? 18 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: And then I felt that he was just getting a 19 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: special treatment as a white you know, as a white rapper. 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to be your cloud kit. I don't 21 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 5: want to be a cloud kid. 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: I'd rather us again, just hit me offline, hit our family, 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: and other than that. 24 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: I know your relationship with Carla Ray been public. 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: The new generation of kids make it public, you know, 26 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: they want everything public on that today. 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Do you feel disrespected when she said she disowned you 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: or something like that. 29 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: It's disappointed, It's disappointment. 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Are you proud that the source of awards is considered 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: the most dangerous awards show? 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: And he's considered considered about who? 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: Bos Love said that the hip hop he loved died 34 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: at the ninety five Social Awards. 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: That's the hell of a statement. 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: Do you know of the footage about I think it's 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: in Beef one or two. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: What sticky fingers shot a gun. 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: At that moment? I was I didn't see him do it. 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: I heard it when I was on the side of 41 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: the stage. I heard. I was like, oh, there was 42 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: a lot of tints between not just West Coast and 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: East Coast, but it was a lot of different cruises. 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: You gotta realize the ninety five a lot of these 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: artists the first time they're even seeing each other. 46 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the documentary for a minute. What's the 47 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: focus of it. 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: Is it just that night? 49 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: You'd understand Sube Knight. You know we got countless interviews 50 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: with him that night, personal interviews. That night is when 51 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: hip hop was just more than just New York. 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Back then what was jade z n did it? Like 53 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: what they? 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: What they? I didn't, I didn't know. You know, both 55 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: of them were quiet. They've dealt with the business on 56 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: them and I'm sure you know they had their big 57 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: ego driven to we all egos. 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: They knew who I was. You know what I'm saying 59 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: the same. 60 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: How do you fund the money up? 61 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 5: Though? 62 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I didn't somebody up. I spent it and and and help. No, no, no, 63 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: not really, because you know the object of life is 64 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: to live. You know what I'm saying. I lived it. 65 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: I lived at a hell of a run. 66 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Live and keep living though yeah I'm still living, still living. 67 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: But you was. 68 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: You was in front of Jay and Diddy. 69 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: Think about that statement you took off and you was 70 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: in front of all of them niggas, right, and you say, 71 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm a street I'm a hustler from the street. 72 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: It ain't no way I play. 73 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Shit happens. And you know, you know, I helped a 74 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: lot of people. I gave away a lot of money. 75 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: Digital a lot. 76 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: Man, man boy, Robin Hood ain't got ship on the zeaster. 77 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 5: Believe that, Yeah, man, I gave away I was man. 78 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: I was very very generous to a lot a lot 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: of people. 80 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: Man, you know what I'm saying. And you know what. 81 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: My mentality where I made a mistake was I took 82 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: the super street mentality of anytime I got up, anytime 83 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I got my bag, I would take my profit off 84 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: top and go fut off, get a bunch of night ship, 85 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: and then go bring the plug his from the from 86 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: because I was such a hustler that I knew that 87 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: I could go back tomorrow and get it again. And 88 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: that's how I just looked at life. It wasn't me. 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm the re up king. Like if soon I get 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: enough to re up, I won't want product. 91 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: Then I want money. 92 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: When I'm in the street, I've always been in I 93 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: want I want more product than I want money because 94 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: the product gets my money. 95 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: I always I just I just was always in that 96 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to get more it because I don't. It 97 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: don't matter because I'm always gonna. I'm always gonna, Like 98 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: I just, man, that's what I'm saying. Man, I always 99 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: got money. Man, getting money was never a problem, even 100 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: like right now, like even in the situation. Man, I 101 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, I don't punch, No, you 102 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 103 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a mold time I'm talking about 104 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: in front of. 105 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: Didn't know what I'm saying. Something. A lot of these 106 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: multi millionaires ain't got ship that happens, but they wanted 107 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: the head and no butter understand. But you gotta understand 108 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: it's hard being a mult time millionaire when you got 109 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: too many family members and too many nicks. Ain't got shit. 110 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: And if you know, back then, I gave a fuck. 111 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: I cared. I cared too much about everybody around me. 112 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: I can't explain it, but money never made me. Money 113 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: come and go. I'm still here, healthy, healthy, and better 114 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: shape than I've ever. 115 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, you take you take care of yourself, better. 116 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Shape than I've ever been. I'm healthy, I'm happy and peaceful. 117 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like God is good man, 118 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: I have nothing, you know what I'm saying. 119 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: So you don't never think about their money that you 120 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: should invest me. 121 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: You should have a couple of times sometimes you do, 122 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: you normal, But on the most part, I really don't 123 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: think about too much. I just don't because now life 124 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: is so much different from back then. It's really hard 125 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: to kind of correlate too of today's life and back 126 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: then like not just the money wise, like everything's different, 127 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it really is like 128 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: two different planets. I'm just in this transition now and 129 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: I got to find out the ways to make it work. 130 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: And I got some things in the pot. 131 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: And young as to make a dollar that ain't it 132 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: ain't Nobody never dispute a question. And I just me 133 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: being from where I'm from, coming from nothing, you know 134 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. My mother working hard as she could, 135 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: made sure we was a little man. 136 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: I took it, you know what I mean. It's like 137 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: family friends. I bought everybody all kindish, I mean big 138 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: shit and not little shit like I was. I was 139 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: a big ship. 140 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: And of them hip You back what you bad. 141 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Caused jewelry money, you know what I'm saying. I mean 142 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: bills everything, the women I was with jewelry money, that's 143 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean. Just my kids spoiled the heat out of 144 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: my kids, you know what I mean. And just you 145 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, look at it. I mean it 146 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: just I watched my father do that. I watch him 147 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: be very generous. Man. I kind of took that out. 148 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: I learned later that that that necessarily wasn't the greatest 149 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: move because you know later on, you know when when 150 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: you know when when. 151 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: They could be in a position to help you, they don't, 152 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: you know. 153 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: But see that's the part where I get that to God, 154 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: because I truly believe that that that doesn't go unnoticed. 155 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: I really believe that you shouldn't feel anyway, and you 156 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't feel spiteful eventuful. Just know that you did it 157 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: and it's gonna come in different ways. 158 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 5: And that's as rough. It's how that's just how I feel. 159 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: That's rough, though. 160 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: Did you did you ever feel like do you remember 161 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: the moment when you felt like I'm broke? Not that 162 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: I can't make a dollar. These are quite different thing. 163 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: Because I always was that just blew money, Like I 164 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: was really blown money fast. BM is like like I 165 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: just always anybody that I knew, you know, you would tell 166 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: him he's been like that. 167 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 5: From day one. 168 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: I just was I love nice things. I love you 169 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I was like I was so 170 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: I could name the celebrities I was. I mean, I 171 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: was the top for a few years. 172 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: I was. I had the owner of. 173 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: The Source magazine and Source high wards and had a 174 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: hit record like that. You know what I mean? 175 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: Ye, Ship, you know what I'm saying. 176 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: I lived, I lived. I lived. I didn't with people 177 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: like you lost, I lose ship. I spent it and 178 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: lived great. I was doing amazing ship on a daily, 179 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: minutely basis. You know what I'm saying that, And you 180 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: can't take that from me. That happened. See, that's what 181 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: life is. We all gonna die, but there's gonna be 182 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: a period of life where you're gonna have a hell 183 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 2: of a run. I had minds, I still were allied 184 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: in me. You know what I'm saying. So Ship that happened, 185 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: You know, the resume stays, it stands. You know what 186 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Of course, as black people were not good 187 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: with money, and guess why that is because of the 188 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: situation that these moments don't put us in. But I 189 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: lived and I learned, and you know what I'm saying. 190 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm definitely but. 191 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: At some point, I know reality kicked in. You're like, yo, 192 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: I can't spend money, Like the only kicks. 193 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: In of what what I gotta worry about right now? 194 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: That's my reality now. 195 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: So you're telling all reality, no moment, the past, the 196 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: past that I swear to God, I'm not lying. The 197 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: past is not reality no more. 198 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm telling my in that moment, like I'm wondering 199 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: if in your life was it two thousand and six where. 200 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: You like, damn the lifestyle gotta change. 201 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: I got a down grade house. I still was. I 202 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: still have bad bites. 203 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna still spoke a good weed. 204 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: I still was. 205 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: When did you downgrade your homes? 206 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, but that's just it, that's just it. Like 207 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I used to I never did you ever had I 208 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: never did? Yeah? Of course two of them in Jersey, 209 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: one for me and my name and one for my family, 210 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: fake stupid ones next to Russell Simmons and job and 211 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: see in why Cleifforld. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying. 212 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Like I was all 213 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: I was living in hotels more than anything that was 214 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: my family. I was on the road all my life. 215 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: I was staying at hotels all my life, from motels 216 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: to the most amazing hotels you could think of, my 217 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: whole life. So I didn't see the difference, you know 218 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. When that shit happened, Dave might have 219 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: been up, but the man when that when we lost 220 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: the sauce. I moved to Miami. We lost everything. I 221 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: moved to Miami. I still was paying my rent. I 222 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: had a nice little house with a little pool in 223 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Hollywood for California. Man, I was still going to strip club, 224 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: still on it. Like what the fuck do I gotta 225 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: be up? So how long for a minute? 226 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like. 227 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: Then we started hip Hop Weekly. I came in and 228 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: I came up. Look I killed with hip Hop Weekly. 229 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: Wasn't getting the money to sauce? You? 230 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: You and you showed you the owners that after that, 231 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: these are important. 232 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. 233 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: What happened after that? 234 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Like how you maintained life? 235 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: And I'm sure that was the thirst to maintain their lifestyle. 236 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Yes, invented hip Hop Weekly, and we ended up putting 237 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: the magazine out. We tried to do the week. That 238 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: was hardest, but we managed to do it two weeks 239 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: and we did it through the incend. We did something 240 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: that nobody even understood to put a magazine out because 241 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: you have a time limit. We did it by having 242 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: editors all over the place and like nobody we had. 243 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: We didn't even have an office, and we did that 244 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: shit every two weeks and put out seven years of 245 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: Hip Hop Weekly. 246 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 5: Bro. It was amazing, Like, for. 247 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: Real, was it in those stands or just all all 248 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: over the new stands everywhere? It was in the jails. 249 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: People loved hip Hop Weekly? Damn? 250 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: Who was in that with you? 251 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Huh? Who was who was in that with? 252 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: It? 253 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: Was me and Dave? Me David. We hired my Ma 254 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: and Kavario, you know what I'm saying. And we hired 255 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: a Citia Horner Sonny from from the Food Network. Salute 256 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: to her. She's doing amazing things, like you know what 257 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I was hiring everybody I was hiring 258 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: in jail, giving them journalists. 259 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: Why don't you have like a network, TV something? 260 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: What I mean? 261 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: Did you get any information from all of this? 262 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: So you know right now you know how to run 263 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: all that shit? 264 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: Bro? 265 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But but it's like it's 266 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: like Dave, Dave, a lot of people don't want to 267 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: for streeting now, A lot of people don't want to 268 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: fight with niggas that that they might. 269 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 5: Be literally and scared of. See Dave wasn't Dave. 270 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: We bonded and when hit everything grew, Dave came to me, 271 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: and even when he gave me fifty percent of fucking 272 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: Source magazine, it wasn't making no money. At ninety four, 273 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't getting no money, you know what I'm saying. 274 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: I just was that, yeah, because I had to look 275 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: out for Dave. I was Dave's front end, his muscle. 276 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: And then I started learning new shit to wheres that 277 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: my mind? Because I was hip hopping. I started actually 278 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: making amazing things happening where I was surprising myself, like 279 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: damn that. Once I started, you know, doing actual shit 280 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: that was outside of street shit, then that's when I 281 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, come on that. And I didn't 282 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: get credit for it, but I wasn't looking for it. 283 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: What I'm hearing from you is that that you were 284 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: around Source from day one, but you wasn't participating from 285 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: a business perspective. 286 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: He was really nothing to participate with me in it 287 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: from until I would say that until I started like 288 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: really getting involved with the Soul Swords, which was around 289 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: ninety four ninety five. 290 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: But if he if he giving you fifty percent, and 291 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: that means something was established. 292 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Right, That's what I'm saying, right that he was like 293 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: I was with him the whole time. And I told you, 294 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: like he was staying in my apartment when he was 295 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: bagging the magazine. Who was best friends? 296 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: But on paper he was one hundred percent. 297 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: But he no, no, he was. He had partners. Remember 298 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: those guys. He bought him out of ninety four when 299 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: everybody walked out when he put the article in bold. 300 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: Okay, you know what I'm saying. 301 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: So then he gave me fifty percent because he was 302 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It was like, yo, and this before. 303 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: Any reattraction is happening. 304 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't really no money being made. He was like, bro, 305 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: you want to I was like do why not? 306 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: I wonder how he feels about that move. 307 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, look at we We did amazing things together. 308 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: I was a major part of those millions. Bob Johnson 309 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: who sold Beat the three hundred million, flew us up 310 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: there and offered us fifty five million dollars cash in 311 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: his office. I did that, me and Dave together, like 312 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: that was me. There wasn't no source without me. I 313 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: was unorthodox and how I did ship but I but 314 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: it didn't matter. I wasn't up there. I didn't have 315 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: to be the poster boy because I was getting money, 316 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: and I was happy, and everybody around was he and 317 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: we was It was an amazing thing. 318 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: Could you have learned more? 319 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: Though? No, I've learned. I learned a lot. I've learned 320 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: a lot. There was nothing else. How can you I 321 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: learned and taught. 322 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: How can you be learning the business side of it 323 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: when you partying, buying ship, spending the money? 324 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: Because no, no, see, because the business side of it 325 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: for me was to take let Dave do it. 326 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: It sounded like every time we say something. 327 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: No, no, no, because I just told you I was 328 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacking Dave. Dave didn't do ship. I was making all that. 329 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: I told you that. We just spoke on it. I said, 330 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: I was everything that major developments and sort. 331 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: On the creative side. 332 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: You were like, well, that's the that's not knowing, that's 333 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: talent side. I'm my administrative They won't care of that. 334 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: Yes, but it don't work. You don't get money unless the. 335 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: Magazine you straight about that. 336 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying, imagine being the CEO of Fredo Laser. 337 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Now that's stop my but that's not my lane. I'm 338 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: not I didn't go Dave went to Harvard for that. 339 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: Let Dave do that let's let your partner do that. 340 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: You And so if they were more. 341 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Knowledge of bod, you couldn't stopped him from doing that 342 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: twelve million dollar shit. 343 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: You do it right right. I wasn't with it, but 344 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: I trusted him. I wasn't with it after twelve million, 345 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know, you know what 346 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Of course, it's that that money's going towards 347 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: the sauce whatever. But I didn't know it. I didn't 348 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: trust it, but he did it, and I had and 349 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: I had to roll with it, just like the ship 350 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: that I did. 351 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: He wrote the five I mean the five mics. 352 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: Now imagine that Dave went to Harvard and made that 353 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: decision and and and it wasn't a good decision. But 354 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: that don't make Dave wrong, for it. 355 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: Was what was the decision you made that wasn't so 356 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: didn't pan out for the. 357 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: Beefing with Eminem and that involved the man. 358 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: So you do acknowledge the companiment. 359 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I acknowledged that part of it, But that's 360 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: all right because there was many more decisions that I 361 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: made that made that shit great and gave the culture 362 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: much shit. So I don't I don't get down on 363 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: it on decision. Nobody's perfect. We all gone. 364 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Did Eminem and fifty cent kill the sauce? 365 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: I told you that did that? 366 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they take they take credit for that. 367 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Let them take credit for it. God bless they'll. 368 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Respond to it. 369 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: I just want you, I want your thoughts as the CEO. 370 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: Respond to it, No that they but they did it. 371 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: The response is that he took out a loan for 372 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: twelve million and we lost the source because it ballooned 373 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: up to thirty million for sauce dot com? Did did Eminem? 374 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: Did you? Guys? Ever? 375 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: Well know the beef was too hot for y'all to 376 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: want to do business with dre fifty inn of them. 377 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Because they all liaked up with ex excel and they 378 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: was all dealing with that at that point. 379 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: So good right now? Source versus xx saal? 380 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: Who would you says? No verses? There's no verses were 381 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: the first They came after us. 382 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: You don't think that there was a source of verse sons? 383 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: It was a is how could in verse? How could 384 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: you reverse something that copied everything from you? If somebody 385 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: came in here right now, put a table over there 386 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: and bore the same thing you was and then put 387 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: it but then caught it something else. What you're gonna say, 388 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: that's what they did. 389 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: So you're minimizing a double XL to the knockout. 390 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: Surce you God damn, there's no minimization. There was our sons. 391 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: There was a copycat. The guy that rant it was 392 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: working for us for five years. The people that owned 393 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: it owned Golf Fisher magazines. There was white guys that 394 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: wasn't even in the culture. Mmm. 395 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: Next, Ellie Wilson says that they defeated y'all. 396 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: How did they defeat us when they started to sell 397 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: morning Yeah, but listen again, let's I know, clicks and comments. 398 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: But Sauce Awards. 399 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: Did Elliott Wilson ever get big with ex Excel Awards? 400 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: To Elliott Wilson ever do that? 401 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: Nah good deal with Sauce Awards in a minute. 402 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no no no, so 403 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: we can do. They was source conglomerate. We wasn't just 404 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: the magazine. We had TV shows, awards shows, multimillion dollar things. 405 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: They was a magazine that copied us. And then they 406 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: got on Eminem's dick and then they got with Jimmy 407 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: and that was it. That's the facts. 408 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: So how do you feel about how do you feel 409 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: about Elliott Wilson. 410 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: That's my son. I gave it. He worked, he started 411 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: his career under me. It's my son at the Source, 412 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: at Source magazine. 413 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: My son, he's standing strong. At some point he took 414 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: over it. When he was the he was the head 415 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: hun show. He took over. 416 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: He took ex Excel. He worked for those guys that 417 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: owned stream Filled Golf Magazine, Hunting Magazine. They are a 418 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: bunch of magazines, publishing clearing house. And then they said, 419 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: oh shit, we can do another magazine because they only 420 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: put twelve guys. There's twelve more guys to put on 421 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: the cover. Exxcel will do the same thing they do, 422 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: call the things different and just do it. That's it. 423 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: Was there a point where double XL was selling more 424 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: magazines than never ever. 425 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: So now maybe after me and David left, but the 426 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: eighteen years we was there, never ever. 427 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: Uh, we shouldn't have a good cover. 428 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: There's no conversation, was the conversation. 429 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: There's no conversation. 430 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: We was, We was more than we was more than that. 431 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: We was more than the magazine there was. There was 432 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: a magazine you know what I'm saying. Social Wars is 433 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: legendary sort all access TV legend we did, I done 434 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: legendary ship. Elliot ain't that he's not. Nobody knows Elliott A. 435 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: Thizar could walk in the airport. Don't nobody know what 436 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: the wasson. That's a fact. 437 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: That's true. That's true, That's definitely true. But they were 438 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: able to transition though. When you guys after we left. 439 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Listen, it was fair games, whatever you want to do. 440 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: But the eighteen years what year. 441 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: Did you leave? He was worth What year did you 442 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: guys say? 443 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that about two thousand and six, I 444 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: think we was out there five oh six. 445 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: Line Awards was in O seven as well. 446 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: No, the last one was in oh five. 447 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 5: I think was of every last one. 448 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: I thought I've seen him with master P and I 449 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: think he said seven. 450 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: But because we were. 451 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: When he said it was in the around the time, 452 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: it might have been it was around that time, right. 453 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: But after we left, it was normal Source awards, no more. 454 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: Nothing we did. The last Source Awards on BT made 455 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: a couple of million dollars. You know, prior to that 456 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: us we had about seven eight Source towards me and 457 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: Dave was just investing in it. 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That of doing. 486 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go down to history as a legend. 487 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: Yes, you and you a legend. 488 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: I was taken legend from that. 489 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 490 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: Had you been more involved, maybe, you know, had everybody. 491 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: Did something, everybody. 492 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: So you gotta yeahbody, what we're gonna do. 493 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep worried about how I did. What you got. 494 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: He's been watching you though. 495 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: You got people that's learning from you, that you got, 496 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: our culture that's observing and trying to gain from your experiences. 497 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: So to be so shut off like that, it's doing 498 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: a disservice. 499 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: I listen, I don't live for people. You know what 500 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. What I did, what I did, you. 501 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: Can't beat us against eminem. And then say I don't. 502 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: Live for people. 503 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: What do you mean us against some of them? 504 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm telling you is right, right, But I'm saying I don't. 505 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm not making my decisions based on people watching not disisiency. 506 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying the recollect of your past and and and 507 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 3: what could have happened because watching you in that position, right, 508 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: I would tell. 509 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: You don't don't get into what it should have cooked 510 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: it and don't get into the past, and I would 511 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: tell you to move forward. 512 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: Do you know that books are our history of what 513 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: has took place, That's how we learn. 514 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: So when I go grab them, I made it. I 515 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: made history. It's called the Source magazine. 516 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying you made the Source of magazine 517 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: but money just to know, mon, don't know how you 518 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: got through it when you didn't when you had to 519 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: sell it. 520 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: I don't know how you feel about double A. 521 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean that's what we're doing, 522 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: the interviews with them and have the questions here. I'm 523 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: answering the questions. 524 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. But when I'm asking 525 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: you these things, you you keep saying ship like yo, 526 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: that's the past, and I don't know. 527 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Neil says, no, no, no, I'm saying, I 528 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 2: know I'm answering every question. But you're saying, if you 529 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: are doing on certain parts of the past that can't 530 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: come back, you want me to go back. Yeah, I 531 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: could have, and I could. I don't live like that. 532 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: I wonder did you get anything from it? Are you 533 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: still operating that way? 534 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: Because it's concerning the me to get nothing from having 535 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: millions of dollars and don't feel nothing about it. 536 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen, listen. It's it's it's make you gotta 537 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: make it. Make the millions. 538 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 5: See making the millions. 539 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: You gotta make it when you can account, whether you 540 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: do it now or then the past before you die, 541 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: make them set out I'm making. 542 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: I making figures with this show. 543 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh, we may say, honey, I'm just 544 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: sending the type of money I made the millions of 545 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: the other millions and millions. It wasn't easy, but I 546 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: did it. 547 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: And where about you keep reverting back to that I 548 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: said all the lunch in the start of the showy, right. 549 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, nobody to take legend from. 550 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no. But I'm saying the where the 551 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: where the miscommunication is. It's like I where I take 552 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: pride into as I made it. I accomplished it, and 553 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 2: I did it. So now because I don't have it 554 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: now doesn't diminish that I did it. So if somebody's 555 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: out there looking, they're like, yo, he did that, not 556 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: diminishing it. 557 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: Not diminishing it, but trying to provide insight to our 558 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: younger that's watching because you are elder in this game. 559 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: So in my opinion, over communicating for. 560 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: You is what you're supposed to do. 561 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: You're supposed to say, Man, what I should have done 562 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: while I was doing that, being this is this? 563 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I learned like that, I said. 564 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't do that, So you don't give a I 565 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: don't give a Just don't do that, that's all. I 566 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: don't do that and I never did it. 567 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: I don't understand that. 568 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 5: Hey, some things ain't to be understood. 569 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: I don't understand how you don't how you don't have 570 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: any information that you want to share. 571 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: I've shared everything you've asked me, I've answered everything, and 572 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: when you look back, you're gonna see it. 573 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about about how you are to see of. 574 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: The source of magazine but never had an office in 575 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: the building right the way that Dave MADEE was able 576 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: to spend the money or whoever made the decision to 577 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: spend the money going internet. And you were there and 578 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: you didn't say whatever you said or didn't I stop it? 579 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: Okain for the fourth time, I said, I told him 580 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: I didn't. But if you fifty percent only you don't 581 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: tell him. But yeah, but I trusted him for the 582 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: fourth time. I trusted him. They did it and it 583 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: didn't work. What else do you want me to do? 584 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: No trusting him? 585 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: And what I'm saying the owner of the company you had, 586 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: you could say. 587 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: No, this is it, So no I trusted. 588 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: In question was what do you learn from being that 589 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: passive in a business worth millions of dollars is. 590 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: On the line. 591 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: You don't have an office. 592 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: They're going to do a twelve million dollar internet move. 593 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: You can't tell them no. 594 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: You give yourself four or five mics or whatever the 595 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: f you did? You throw your nuts on the table. 596 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, what did. 597 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: You get from being that passive when that amount of money? 598 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: The owner chat even about being passive, it's about being 599 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: a partner with somebody. And I'm trusting him and you 600 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and that's what I did, and 601 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: that was it simple. 602 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: The ninety four sauce of Wars is that when everything 603 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: took place, that the snoop I was ninety five ninety 604 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: five I'm sorry, ninety five sauce a war Snoop Dogg 605 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 3: came up out cast. 606 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Is that the legendary night that the youngsters need. 607 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing the documentary I been working on for like 608 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: nine months, me and my partner, Mayor Robinson, and uh yeah, 609 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: we're doing a three part documentary. I got about two 610 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: twenty interviews from people back then. It's pretty amazing and 611 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: they'll be coming out. 612 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have many of their footage from all 613 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: the footage? 614 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: So do you still own did y'all sells my footage here? 615 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: When you sold Source magazine to sell it? 616 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: We we we we we we. When we owed the bank, 617 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: we gave part of our percentage to Black Enterprise. Then 618 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: it's it's something where they had three guys on the board, 619 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: me and Dave was two and they ended up taking 620 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: the bank took it. No, the Black Enterprise body. 621 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: From the bank from us, So you did sell it? 622 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: I literally just said well, no. 623 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: No, what what no, no, no, no, it wasn't. So 624 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: we gave you know, we sold some o percentage and 625 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: then they took it over because we we we still 626 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: wanted to be there like their partners. And then they 627 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: ended up doing like a takeover and kicking us off 628 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: the board. And they ended up taking it over. 629 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: How did they kick you off the board? 630 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: Well, it was a that was like a business type 631 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: of situation where you know, they've they've pretty much handled it. 632 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: But at that point, at that point, the Internet at 633 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: that point was actually knocking magazines out the things, so 634 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 2: here they wanted the magazine. They wanted to get rid 635 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: of me and Dave, not knowing that magazines was getting 636 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: ready to belly up in the here to anyway over 637 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: the same thing that Dave thought of. He was just 638 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: too soon before. See what Dave did was brilliant. He 639 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: just was five years too early, and that's what happened. 640 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: Are you proud that the Source of Awards is considered 641 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: the most dangerous awards show? 642 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 4: And he's considered by considered by who? 643 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: Who's it considered by? 644 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: I see it online billboards? 645 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 5: Do you consider it the most dangerous? 646 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: And that's the that's a that's a funny question, how 647 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: because if you don't know who's considered it dangerous. 648 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: Why do acknowledge that certain things took place at So 649 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: it's that may have been viewed as dangerous, but that 650 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: ain't dangerous. 651 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying I don't I don't know 652 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: it to be viewed as the most dangerous. So I 653 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: can't answer that question, like I never I never seen that. 654 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: So it wasn't though I know it was the most 655 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: influential hip hop award show. 656 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: Was it intense at the ninety five social It definitely 657 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: was intense. 658 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 5: It wasn't. No violence though, not even in fight, not 659 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 5: one fight, not one fight. 660 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 3: Do you do you know of the footage about I 661 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: think it's in Beef one or two. What Sticky Fingers 662 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: shot a gun? 663 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's danger right, Yeah, yeah, I guess 664 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: so that's. 665 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: That's funny though, that's a funny thing. 666 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: He shot a gun and that was crazy. 667 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: I seen the footage that was like, like I at 668 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: that moment, I was I didn't see him do it. 669 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: I heard it when I was on the side of 670 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: the stage. I heard I was like, oh shit, so 671 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: you were shot? 672 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: It Yeah, that's right, that's right. 673 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just so okay, let me ask you this. 674 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: I guess this is a better question because for me, 675 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: you know, I do a festival, and I go to 676 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: a lot of these festivals, so there's different stages. 677 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 4: The Social Award was one stage. All lies on this stage. 678 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: That's how it was. 679 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 5: It was one stage. Year. 680 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: Bernie Mack was our first host. We gave Bernie Mack's 681 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: first hosting job. 682 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: Damn, that's dope. And rest in peace to the Great 683 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: for sure, Rest in peace Bernie. 684 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: Kevin Halt was. 685 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 5: One of our ushes on one time, like running up 686 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: and down. We let him interview people before he blew. 687 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: I remember the Raids Alexander. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 688 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: We gave a lot of their guys this start like 689 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: this DJ Khaled when he was the only people who 690 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: knew him in Miami, we let him DJ. 691 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 692 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave a lot of guys they you know 693 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, they start, you know what I'm saying. 694 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: They do me a favor, bro, this I think is 695 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: it made need to come this way soon because because 696 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm also looking at him like he. 697 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: Is as good I'm watching it. 698 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, like DJ called, we let him flex, 699 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Like we gave a lot of guys that ain't never 700 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: been on a big platform like that. They they they 701 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: chanced and they start. So you know, I was responsible 702 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: for a lot of guys getting great looks. 703 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. 704 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Have it ever been a fight at social wards? 705 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: So you said there. 706 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: Was in the in the La, the one in LA 707 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: I think the two thousand and one it was, there 708 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: was a fight there. 709 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that ninety five, with all the tension, 710 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, with all the different things we hear and 711 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: see about that night that that there was nobody that 712 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: tried anything. 713 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's interesting though. 714 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, well, you know what I'm saying. 715 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: You know, people people respected it, respected the situation that night, 716 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: and you know, and uh respected hip hop that night. 717 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: It was an amazing night. Yeah. It was a lot 718 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: of tents between not just West Coast and East Coast, 719 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: but it was a lot of different Crewis you gonna 720 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: realize in ninety five a lot of these artists the 721 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: first time they're even seen each other. It was no 722 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: intimate you know what I'm saying, They're really coming across 723 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: each other, face to face, and everybody got egos. 724 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 5: That night was crazy. 725 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, the so far the documentary is gonna be 726 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: pretty dope. Yeah, let's talk. 727 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: About the documentary for a minute. 728 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: What what what's the focus of it? 729 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Is it just that night? You can understand Suge Knight. 730 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: You know, we know we got countless interviews with him 731 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: that night, personal interviews. 732 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: With Oh that's dope. 733 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got I got all heavy hitters, ci Lo, 734 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: I got, you know, the goodie mob we got uh, 735 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I got a lot of guys man, and 736 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, and we got the reason why we're not 737 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: done yet because there's still some more to get, like 738 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: trying to get all these But you know, that night 739 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: was when Andre's three thousand said what he said, and 740 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: after that, the South just came in and just kicked 741 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: the doors in. You know, that night is when hip 742 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: hop was just more than just New York. It was 743 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: actually now the country. You know, you had Bone Thug 744 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: from the Midwest, you had Twister, you had you know 745 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Uh, crucial Conflict from Chicago. I mean, 746 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: you know they were people were from all over that night. 747 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: So hip hop really that night was major. Of course 748 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: what Sugar said, you know, really made it tense. But 749 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: that's what you know. Park was in jail at the 750 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: ninety five when he was there in ninety four. He 751 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: was in jail ninety five. But yeah, you know, you 752 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: know we gave we gave hip hop a look that 753 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: the Grammys wasn't given and still don't give it. 754 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: And I swear we'll appreciate that as the culture because 755 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: that like you yo, someone has to get us together, 756 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: whether they and it's only probably gonna be us because 757 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 3: everyone else is afraid of us in one building. 758 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: And you know, the Grammys wasn't given the props right, 759 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: they were shitting on us. So you know, we we 760 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: and see what people don't understand. The artist is one thing, 761 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: but we was allowing the artists to come with all 762 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: their crew, all their niggas that you couldn't do that anywhere. 763 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 2: You feel me, you know what I'm saying, Like they 764 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: was coming with all these you couldn't do that with 765 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: everybody else. So I don't think I think people minimize that. 766 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: The fact that you know, the audience was when you 767 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: match the p that's everybody in all his projects and 768 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: mob deep in all their hit all they they wasn't 769 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you know what I'm saying, 770 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: we was allowing that. It was allowing the hood for 771 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: a big platform. We did that. I'm saying I had 772 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: a major part of that right like that that wasn't 773 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: happening in any way fashion of form you might see 774 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: soul training dancing. What was security like, I mean, we 775 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: didn't have too much security the ninety four ninety five 776 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: it was a couple like armed of course because we 777 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 2: was at the massive Square garden. But we had the ushes, 778 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: you know, like the Nation of Islam would be the ushes, 779 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: and you know, man, it just you know, we had 780 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: a security farm, a security farm firm. I remember Eric 781 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: b At the years later helped us with security. Shout 782 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: out to be but you know, the nation, the nation. 783 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: We would give the nation a big check for them 784 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: to come help us with the awards to make sure 785 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: I would take care of Faerl Khan. You know, I 786 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: really respect fail Khan. I don't know what's saying. We've 787 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: always had a great relationship and we've always wanted to 788 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: be a part. But you know, Souce awards, when everybody 789 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: goes up on these stages. Now that would we did that? 790 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: Wasn't nobody basically for hip hop, No other magazine, no 791 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: other label, nothing we did. 792 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: That Was it rough getting the green lit? 793 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: Or was you just it was rough the whole time? 794 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: We had to do a syndication to get it on TV. 795 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: That's why at the beginning, the early ones, you would 796 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: see late night, like at eleven o'clock it'd come on 797 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: like Channel. 798 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 5: Four or something. 799 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: That's why it was good because the jails could watch. 800 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: You know, the jails would only have the bunny is 801 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: four or five or well at least they'd be you 802 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But back then, wasn't no networks 803 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: taking that shit. The UPN We got into UPN. Then 804 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: from there we signed the contract with BT. 805 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: Would you go to any of those meetings like the 806 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 4: meanings about? 807 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. Let me tell you about the 808 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: BT meetings. So they came in. 809 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 5: This is how it was. They would come in. 810 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: I come in, I have a cuple my names with me, 811 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: and so BT came in with their production team and 812 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: this guy's like, so this is how we're gonna do it, 813 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: and they had the pig things. I took his whole 814 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: shit just wapped that shup. 815 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: I was like, this shit is whack. I said, we 816 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 5: ain't doing it like that. 817 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 2: I said, tomorrow we're gonna come in and have another 818 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: meet and Dave, I'll be back. 819 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 5: We had the other meeting. 820 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: Man, I picked all the acts, picked all the shells, 821 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: very much involved with it. To their credit, the producers 822 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: of BT carried everything I did. They was mad about it, 823 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: but they basically kind of stood down and listened to 824 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: everything and it was amazing. It was amazing, and we 825 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: made a couple of million on that last one, and 826 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: that was the blueprint for their awards. 827 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: I see, I see sometimes you say Outcast was speaking 828 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: to you when they went up there and said what 829 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: they said, and if it was a. 830 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: Time where when it was getting the micro rate, and 831 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: I felt like I probably shouldn't have. I kind of 832 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: like stuck my nose in that where I didn't hear 833 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: the music, and I apologize for that. You know, it 834 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: was new, you know what I'm saying, And I just 835 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: didn't understand how the hype behind it. But you know 836 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you know, looking back, whether he was 837 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: or not, I just felt like kind of responsible for 838 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: them not getting a half mic Moore And like I said, 839 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: I never really dealt with the whole mic system, but 840 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: those were a couple of times I did it. But 841 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: that that that. 842 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 5: One I regret it. 843 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it was a 844 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: time in history, and you know what I'm saying. 845 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: See also that night you got Snoop saying that, So 846 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: it felt like the vibe and what. 847 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: It Snoop is different Snoop. If it wasn't for Snoopy, 848 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: it could have went bad. Because after after Shoke said 849 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: what he said, shook Snooping up there, and like Connor was, 850 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: the first thing he said was, man, what's up? We 851 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: know where were at? We're in New York. Y'all don't 852 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: love doctor dress. Snoop. He psychologically turned it from that 853 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: tense moment of Nick you want to get into something 854 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: to like kind of confuse in the crowd with them. 855 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: He's kind of with us. He's young and meanwise, but 856 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: he saying that he with us. I think Snoop had 857 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: a lot to do with kind of saving that night. 858 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 5: You know my opinion. 859 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: Now, that's dope. 860 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 3: I wonder I wondered myself, like because I just felt 861 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: like the atmosphere and there was nobody wasn't getting no love. 862 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: It just felt nobody got loved, got awards. 863 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, y'all listen, yo, I'm talking about I'm talking about. 864 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: From each other. 865 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody to keep getting those stage Yeah, I 866 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 4: mean you got. 867 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: A bunch of It was dope in one room that 868 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: had never happened before, right, and egos you said the 869 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: main thing, egos. 870 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 871 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I'm sure everybody in there that night, 872 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: and even when I listened to the interviews, there was 873 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: a lot of side beafs that nobody know about. And 874 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: I can't speak too much. I wanted to watch the documentary, 875 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: but there was a lot of side beafs that nobody 876 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: ever knew about. Like you know what I'm saying, Like 877 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: a lot of side didn't know. There was a situation 878 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: with Cube and uh bone Dog, you know what I'm saying, 879 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 2: Woo tanging Biggie, Like. 880 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: There was a lot of on the Artists of the 881 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Year that year. 882 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of side those situations. Man, 883 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that nobody knew. But when 884 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: you see the documentary, you're gonna you know, you're gonna do. 885 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 4: With sug Onto wage and how they did he roll back? 886 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: Then he was deep, he's in New York, you know 887 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: it was it. Yeah, I can't say, but something took 888 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: place after that has to do with them too that 889 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: I cannot say. But yeah, real, real interesting. I was 890 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: like wow, like you know, because I'm at every interview 891 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: and I'm you know, you can't say no, I cannot 892 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: now because you know, it's it's for. 893 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: The for the doctor, Okay, okay, okay, so. 894 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: You're gonna put it out there, so one hundred oh yeah, 895 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm here to say. 896 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: No, I ain't doing no no no no no no 897 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: no no no. 898 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: But it's it was, you know, it's some rip. It's 899 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of ship that people are gonna 900 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: know because all they seen was the sugar ship. But 901 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: all the ship that happened after that was leading up 902 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: to that. I just was like, wow, blew me right, 903 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: and here I am. I was involved in every aspect 904 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 2: of the magazine that night. I mean, of the Awoods 905 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: that night, and it just blew me to away some 906 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: of the ship that I'm hearing. But it's amazing in 907 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: its history, man, it really is I caught it the 908 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: night that changed hip hop forever. 909 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: You know, And why are you give it that? 910 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: Because it really did. Hip hop went after after ninety five, 911 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: hip hop just blew into this phenomenon, this world of 912 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: phenomenon with all artists, with all different music repping. This 913 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: was a time where the South could make amazing songs, 914 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: talking and dressing and looking like the South. They didn't 915 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: have to even though they had influences from New York. 916 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: All the influence came from New York, they still could 917 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: retain who they was, you know. And when I look 918 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: at even you know, like, I mean, come on, man, 919 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: like I think three six Mafia doesn't get enough credit, 920 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 921 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: As far as far as like the South and and 922 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: and and influence and influence, you. 923 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. So that was the night that 924 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: when Andres three thousand said that, it kind of just 925 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: opened the doors for it. Look like the South just said, yeah, 926 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, we don't. Yeah, New York 927 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: is New York, and the West coast, West Coast, we 928 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: the South, and let's go. 929 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the Source Awards. What the VMA is 930 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: going on? 931 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: Then mtvv Yeah, yeah, yeah, the MTV and VMA's was 932 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: going on, you know, but you know, they just was 933 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: the only pay people they were acknowledging hip hop was 934 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: eminem you know what I'm saying at that time, that's crazy, 935 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, They wasn't really they wasn't 936 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: even acknowledging they were. MTV wasn't even playing Nick videos, 937 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: That's what was so crazy. And then they would just 938 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: play his videos. So a lot of rappers just really 939 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: missed out on their platform at the beginning. It wasn't 940 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: until later on, you know, after a while, when your 941 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: your TV raps came. But man, it was it was 942 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, MTV wasn't representing either, wow, you know what 943 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 944 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: And you know v H one either. It was all 945 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: the same ship. You know. 946 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: They was really trying to, like when I looked at 947 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: the way how they was doing it, they really wanted 948 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: to like kind of like water hip hop down. They 949 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: necessarily didn't want to really show that hip hop was 950 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: from street guys. And you know what I'm saying, and 951 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: and and the ladies of the street. And when I 952 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: say that, just you know, the neighborhoods you know. That's 953 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: why the Source at that time was very important because 954 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: without it then but you know, the representation would have 955 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 2: been minimal. 956 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 5: You know, it's none. 957 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: But when we also look back, we got Vibe magazine 958 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: and Vibe Awards. 959 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit wasn't it wasn't tried that shit a 960 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: couple of times. 961 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 5: It didn't work, you know what I'm saying. 962 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 2: Actually, BTC, the BET Awards really kind of took over 963 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: for the R and B. See, we necessarily wasn't doing 964 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: R and B, you know what I'm saying. So bt 965 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: was kind of like the awards show for that. So 966 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: Vibe really couldn't get his ground because of that. Even 967 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: VH one they you know, they tried the awards and 968 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like they couldn't get their 969 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: ground either, you know what I'm saying. The Source, I think, again, 970 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: we was relevant because we was the streets were the 971 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: only thing that the neighborhoods could look at and see 972 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: themselves on that platform. There was nothing else showing anybody 973 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: from any of these neighborhoods on a major platform on 974 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: TV until the Source. And that was a fact. That's 975 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 2: a fact. 976 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: Coys Love said that the hip hop. He loved that 977 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 3: added the ninety five Social Awards. 978 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 5: And that's the hell of a statement. 979 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: See if I could use that for the for the documentary, 980 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: because now it's true man like, and I can understand Qrush, 981 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: you know, because I mean just the essence of it 982 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: of hip hop, man is just you know, what it 983 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: is now is totally not what it was. And what 984 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: I was fighting for was not it to fall in 985 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 2: the wrong hands. 986 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 5: You know, I always was fighting for that. 987 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: You know, that whole eminem situation was about it falling 988 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 2: in the wrong hands, and it did. And look at 989 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: it now. Hip hop is chaotic right now. I mean, 990 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, the hyper sexualization that they're pushing on our 991 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: young kids on radio, you know, you know back then 992 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: you had you know, back then you had a couple 993 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: of artists in that lane, but it wasn't oversaturated where 994 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: the companies are pushing just that, Like, you can't be 995 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: a female rapper unless you hyper sexualized not only just 996 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 2: your music, but your actually you have to give this 997 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: image of that. And I just don't. I think that's 998 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm trying to think, where do we go 999 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: from there? From here? If it only gets worse, do 1000 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: the do the outfits get skimpier? You know what I'm saying, Like, 1001 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 2: it's like, where do we go? What? 1002 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 5: What you know? 1003 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: When you look at hip hop and what it is 1004 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: from now? And I can understand what he's saying. 1005 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 4: From a cultural standpoint. 1006 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: Musically, there's a lot of great stuff out, so I 1007 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: would never you know you Musically it's you know, there's 1008 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 2: still there's amazing dope music out, you know, But as 1009 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: far as what the optics are, it's it's not looking. 1010 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: Like let's get it in, let's get into Eminem. 1011 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: Were back to Eminem? 1012 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I haven't really asked you, you know, anything 1013 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: about the situation. You know, I want to know, do 1014 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: you do you hate Eminem? Uh? 1015 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: Nah? 1016 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 5: I don't hate emineh. 1017 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 2: I I don't. I I I despise his fans more 1018 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 2: more than anything with him, his fans because I know 1019 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: his fans. His fans, A lot of his fans are 1020 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: just racist people who don't like black people in the 1021 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: first place. Facts, that's what he was designed for, by 1022 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: his by the people that designed it. They had to 1023 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: find somebody that was gonna represent a part of America 1024 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: that don't deal with black people or hip hop blacks 1025 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 2: in hipop. But will we'll sell you him. And that's 1026 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: what it was, and that's why he could sell millions 1027 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: and make millions and millions and millions and millions of 1028 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: dollars because people in Nebraska and Wyoming and you know, 1029 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: places that just don't see black people at all at all. 1030 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, we take for granted and things because we 1031 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 2: see and live around white people. That that's in every 1032 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: city in America, and that that couldn't be furthest from 1033 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: the truth. There's there's a lot of places where no 1034 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: blacks even exist, and white people grow up without any 1035 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: interaction with black people, and they're not buying no black 1036 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 2: people nothing. They don't want black artists on their sons 1037 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: and daughter's walls. So as long as we give you 1038 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: eminem and it's okay. 1039 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 4: But what did it start? 1040 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 5: Wait to start? 1041 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I said a couple of I said 1042 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: a couple of things about him on a on a 1043 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: song and like a mixtape, like you know, said some shit, 1044 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: rap shit, right, like what everybody else does? 1045 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? They say shit about each other. 1046 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 5: It's ego, ego driven. 1047 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: Hip hop that was probably in shit that was years ago. 1048 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what that was like twenty two 1049 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: years ago, something like maybe two thousand and one something two. 1050 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then. 1051 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: Uh, he made a whole mixtape back and I made 1052 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: music back, and then the Source got involved, and then 1053 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: the white guys brought the racist tape, and then it 1054 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: excelled and it escalated from that. And at that time, me, guy, 1055 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: it was crazy because at that time me and Shah 1056 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 2: had was native in our kids. Corey was going to school. 1057 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 5: With his daughter and in Jersey. 1058 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: We had to move from Boston and at that time, 1059 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 2: he's beefing with fifty and they had real beef, and 1060 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm be from with M. Fifty and M just got together. 1061 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 2: I moved next door to Jah. It looks like it's 1062 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: like a big tag team thing, like you know what 1063 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, you know, but it was two separate situations. 1064 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1065 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 3: I always wondered, like, you know where it started from, 1066 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 1067 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I felt that he was just getting a 1068 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: special treatment as a white you know, as a white rapper. 1069 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: And I just felt like with the Source magazine, We're 1070 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: not going to give you that special treatment. I see 1071 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: how MTV Showtime, I seen how the awards they would 1072 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: never let black people Radio City Music Hall. I've seen 1073 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: how they led him with like fifty white guys dressed 1074 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 2: like him with the blonde his run up in there. 1075 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: I just seen the images. I just seen the messages 1076 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 2: that they were sending, and I just felt like, Okay, 1077 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: if they're going to use their platform to send that message, 1078 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to use the source, which is my our 1079 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: platform to send this message. 1080 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: Do you think that, oh, I've seen something what he 1081 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 4: called in the. 1082 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 3: Hot ninety seven In response to you, were you ever 1083 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 3: invited the Hot ninety seven back then or did you call? 1084 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: In response? I was, I was cool with everybody up 1085 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 2: they was doing business with Flex and everything was good. 1086 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: And then once he came up there, there was just 1087 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 2: being a little disrespectful towards I felt there was being 1088 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: disrespectful towards me in general, and how they addressed me 1089 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: when when he was up there. Yeah, and I didn't 1090 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: appreciate it. So you know that night that was we 1091 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 2: wasn't really messing with them, They wasn't messing with us. 1092 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 5: Ninety seven after that. 1093 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 3: Do you think coming from Boston played into it, like 1094 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: growing up around their racism, Well, that part looking at Yes, yes. 1095 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 5: One great, that's a great question. Yes, one hundred percent. 1096 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I look at that now. I didn't know 1097 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: what then, But now that I look at it and 1098 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 2: how I'm I'm cognizant of how I grew up. And 1099 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 2: it's like, damn, look at how I grew up. And 1100 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that before. I 1101 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 2: didn't know that before. But yeah, I looked back at 1102 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 2: how I grew up and how growing up in a 1103 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 2: racist city, in a racist environment, in a segregated environment. 1104 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 5: Of course it did. 1105 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: Now I look at it now because I just don't 1106 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: think it's fair, especially if it's our music and it's 1107 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 2: our culture, you know. Mark Wahlberg, I remember we had 1108 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 2: won the Boston Music Award for Best Rap Group. We 1109 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: Want the very first one, and we was proud of that, 1110 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: Almighty Ars, so we ain't never won shit. And this 1111 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: was just before we got to deal with Tommy Boy. 1112 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 2: This was the early years, like eighty six made the eighties, 1113 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 2: you know. And then Mark Wahlberg came out Donnie Wahlburg's brother. 1114 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: Then he won it and we took a house and 1115 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: we smashed it. It was the newspapers like, we don't 1116 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: want this shit. How could he just come in and 1117 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 2: get it because he's Donnie's brother. But I've been on 1118 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: this ship for a minute, Like I don't you know, 1119 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm not with none of that. I'm not with like 1120 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 2: because of the color of your skin makes you better 1121 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 2: than me, or you should have privilege over me. I 1122 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: just never was good with that. Never. So the eminem 1123 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: thing had, you know, had connotations of that. It had it, 1124 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, it was it had those elements. 1125 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 5: That I've seen. 1126 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: And this is before this, this was before the racist tapes. 1127 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: I just felt like he was getting privileged because a 1128 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 2: lot of these people that all these big white companies 1129 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: that wasn't dealing with black people or black guys from 1130 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: the streets in the hood. I felt like it's not 1131 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: fair just to just give him an same thing with 1132 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: the Caitlyn Clop thing. You know, it's funny because the 1133 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clop thing is the same situation. You know, they 1134 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 2: already annoying her, She's already getting Wilson Diale's and these 1135 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 2: women been busting. They ass an amazing talent with the 1136 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 2: w NBA all along, and here she comes in and 1137 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 2: just gets annoyed just because she's white. Like, it's just 1138 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: the same shit now Jamel Hill, Jamel Hill's from Detroit, 1139 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: loves them and them goes too bad for him, sticks 1140 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 2: up for him. But then shit's on Caitlyn Club. I'm like, what, 1141 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 2: that's hypocritical because it's the same thing. Now, what Caitlyn did? 1142 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 2: I give her mad respect for Kaitlyn finally came out 1143 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: and said, and this was big. No, I don't know 1144 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 2: if anybody caught this. What do you feel about people 1145 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 2: weaponizing your name for their agendas? Meaning white people who 1146 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: are racist, they use that as superiority. We're better than you. 1147 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 2: They need that. That's what runs their control. 1148 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 5: And that's why she said. 1149 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't like it and I don't condone it, and 1150 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 2: I don't want people using my name for any of 1151 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 2: their jent. That was big. As she did that, I 1152 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 2: got so much respect for her because I know her 1153 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 2: Pops looks a little racist, you know what I'm saying. 1154 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 2: She looked like she grew up around But her saying 1155 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 2: that to guts and by her saying that, she kind 1156 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: of sends a message to whoever's racist out there, I 1157 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: don't find you. Eminem never does that his fans are racists. 1158 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 2: Is a good part of his fans that are super racist, bro, 1159 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 2: and they're disrespectful. 1160 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 4: You're getting there from the comments and shit. 1161 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: Just from the comments. But it's easy to see. If 1162 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: hip hop's the number one influence and he's the fucking 1163 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 2: most selling rapper, then when we're all dead and dead 1164 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 2: and gone, then they're gonna think that, well, he was 1165 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: the one that was over everything. So a white man 1166 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 2: was better than everybody? Is it gonna be discredited? I 1167 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: fought for that back then, the same shit I'm saying now, 1168 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: I said it twenty two years ago. None different. I 1169 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 2: seen it, and I was in a position I'd have 1170 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: to answer to nobody. The source was mine, and that's 1171 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 2: what the source was for. We was there as gatekeepers 1172 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 2: to protect it. And I felt like I didn't look at 1173 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 2: Beastie Boys as white rappers. I didn't wasn't mad at 1174 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: I love Beastie Boys. I went and see him at 1175 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: Fresh vest Is. They wanted Eminem to be the white 1176 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 2: rapper for white people, and when you do that, you 1177 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: up the money for black people because you're splitting white 1178 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 2: people up. Now they don't have to buy black people's music. 1179 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 4: But you can't deny he can rap. 1180 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 2: You ain't can rap. 1181 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 4: You can't deny he can rap. 1182 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: It never was about rap, about rap. Ain't more than rap. 1183 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but back in the day, back in the day, 1184 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 3: you had the same message. I listened to some of 1185 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 3: the records and ship, but I was amazed that you 1186 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: your ego ahead, you trying to go rap like balloballdn't 1187 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 3: write them an ego like I'm right, don't give a 1188 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 3: so what damn right? 1189 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go right at him, 1190 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: like who is he see me? He raps good, but 1191 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm not into his type of rap. Even if I 1192 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: didn't was with the souce or nothing, I wouldn't be 1193 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: listening to eminem listen. I came up from ice Cube 1194 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 2: and chugged it. Kr Rest, I can name, I can 1195 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: name five. I was hundreds of rappers. I wouldn't be 1196 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 2: listening to him. That's just me. I wouldn't listen to that. 1197 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 2: Production wise, I wouldn't listen to it. That is a 1198 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: couple of songs that he did there. 1199 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 4: He got some shit, a couple of songs. 1200 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: I like, he name dumped you in some beanngus. 1201 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean what do you mean I'm listen, listen, listen. 1202 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 2: I affected him, and nobody cannot say I didn't. I 1203 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: affected that man's mental Nobody can tell me different. As 1204 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 2: great as everybody says he is, I affected him to 1205 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 2: this day. I didn't know where that other say he 1206 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 2: came out, made a old song, but I mean to 1207 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 2: mention coy like I affected him. Then I made rap elvison, 1208 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 2: did it, mom Spaghetti made a big impact? Yeah, like yeah, 1209 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But no matter what, 1210 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 2: no matter what, I affected him. Yeah, he was talking 1211 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 2: now and I was supposed to have been dead now 1212 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 2: on the coffin and his great songs and nah, that 1213 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 2: shit he makes garbage. The music he makes now is garbage. 1214 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 2: That last song he put out was garbage. And if 1215 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 2: anybody defends that, I don't even debate. That just shows 1216 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 2: me like we wouldn't like you don't even know if 1217 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 2: if a person defends that music, then I don't even 1218 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, I'll see where you were at 1219 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: with Homie. 1220 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 5: We ain't even same, Nigga. 1221 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 2: That's his trash, bro it is what it is. That 1222 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: a new song he just put out, it's garbage. 1223 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 3: So you don't think nobody can make an argument for 1224 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 3: that song if somebody listen. 1225 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm gonna respect anybody if they like 1226 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 2: their music. But if somebody wants to argue about that song, 1227 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: then they just doing that because either they white supremacist 1228 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,959 Speaker 2: or they just want to be Dick's because that song's whack. 1229 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,479 Speaker 2: That songs wat. Any from the hood, anybody is gonna 1230 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: tell you this to they're not listening to that bullshit, like, 1231 00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: let's keep it one thousand, that songs wat. That song's whack. 1232 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 2: That's so forget it. But the new generation would never 1233 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: listen to it. But even the old heads that like 1234 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 2: like mine, you still making the same shit you made 1235 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: twenty years ago and think it's gonna stick today, Like, 1236 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: who the fuck? You think? That's pretty arrogant. He really 1237 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 2: thinks that you listen to because he's eminem and people do. 1238 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: But that's that white thing, that's that master slave thing. 1239 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1240 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 5: That's that he's white. 1241 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 4: My god, he's white. 1242 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 2: I don't got that in men. 1243 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 5: I never had it in me. I'm so I look 1244 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 5: at everybody saying. 1245 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 3: I think he's talented, but you know, he's talented and 1246 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 3: there's a lot of nick. I do think that this 1247 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 3: last song is like a remake or something. 1248 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 4: I don't understand it. 1249 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: But that shit is I mean, let's just call it 1250 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 2: what it is. That's his garbage. That's just whack. Say 1251 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 2: say what it is? That shit is not good. 1252 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 5: You would not play that. 1253 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 3: To be honest, I ain't even listen to the whole record, 1254 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 3: so I can't listen to the. 1255 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,479 Speaker 2: First thirty seconds and make the conclusion if you can't 1256 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,959 Speaker 2: hear thirty seconds of that and like that shit's dope 1257 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,919 Speaker 2: and there's there's still something long that ain't it. I don't. 1258 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't do that production. Ain't it flow, ain't it? It? 1259 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 2: Ain't it? But I don't. 1260 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 4: I don't make my decisions like, yeah, it's based on this. 1261 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: Well, listen to it and make a decision. Ship listen, 1262 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: I I need you to listen to it. 1263 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I listen to it. 1264 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 2: That's just garbage. 1265 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 4: What was fifty city involvement in this situation? 1266 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: Because I know you you've been asking fifty four celebrity 1267 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 3: boxing magic. 1268 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 2: Listen man, fifty fifty fifty fifty Yeah, hell y'all box 1269 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: What I'm saying you ain't get them ms I box 1270 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: fifty You damn right, I'm in shape. Shit, I'm benching 1271 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 2: about what to seventy five? Now? You know what I'm saying, Like, 1272 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm not no slock. 1273 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 4: Do you think it'll just be a fight and it's 1274 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 4: it'll do something? 1275 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 5: Go with that? 1276 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,439 Speaker 2: No, no boxing box and you put your gloves. 1277 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 3: And then we So you want a peaceful yeah, you 1278 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 3: want just a peaceful celebrity. 1279 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 2: I could always want people, of course, why not? You 1280 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, ain't there ain't nothing anybody 1281 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 2: should die over. You know what I'm saying. But I 1282 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: know it'll make a lot of money. You know what 1283 00:56:59,560 --> 00:56:59,919 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1284 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 4: I'm definitely up for what kind of splits you want 1285 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 4: to do. 1286 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 2: We gotta do fifty fifty. 1287 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 4: I ain't fifty cent gonna give you fifty percent of 1288 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 4: a fight. 1289 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean i'd have to go fifty fifty. I'm gonna 1290 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: be in there. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna 1291 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 2: where they could knock me out or not. You know 1292 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I run the risk. You ain't. 1293 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 4: You didn't fifty fifty though, then. 1294 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,439 Speaker 2: It don't happen. I just seen that. I just seen 1295 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 2: the tape of fifty Box, and he's not. He gotta 1296 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: look like he needs some training. 1297 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 3: Even if he go out there, he ain't giving you 1298 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 3: fifty percent of there. 1299 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean, well, he would have to us. There's no boxing. 1300 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take nothing less. It has to be a 1301 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: fifty fifty sprip because it's it's ben Zeno fifty against fifty. 1302 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 2: So you know that's gonna bring the draw. You know 1303 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. People are gonna be waiting. Oh, he 1304 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 2: gonna kill, he gonna kill. Benzi got knock fifty, he 1305 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 2: got knock Benzineo. Whit I need fifty percent? 1306 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 4: It was made whether versus made Donna, and it wasn't feed. 1307 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: Listen, I did it. I kicked it with Mike Me 1308 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 2: and Michael Cool and Mike said it listen to. Human 1309 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 2: body is not meant to be punched on. Anybody could 1310 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 2: be knocked out anybody, anybody. There's there are places on 1311 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 2: your head that that don't even have to be hit 1312 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: that hard and you blackout. It's just the physics of things. 1313 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's trained the other train. So people didn't know that. 1314 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 3: I already know that. 1315 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean three rounds ninety seconds. Man, Yeah, I'm 1316 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 2: doing that. You know what I'm saying. For a couple 1317 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 2: of I'm doing it. 1318 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 4: And anybody took you up on one of them fights. 1319 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I just let me boxing. I made 1320 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 2: a bottle of whatever. I took him like you man, 1321 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: something had. He was an actor, white guy. He was 1322 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 2: a boxing you win in love. I won. I knocked 1323 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 2: him on second round. 1324 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: Was he a what kind of was he? 1325 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? He was. He was a shape hit hard too. 1326 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1327 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 2: I give him his props. I was. I was. I 1328 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: did way more than him though, you know what I'm saying. 1329 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I mean. It was two 1330 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 2: second round fight. It was the first time I did it. 1331 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 2: I always wanted to do it. 1332 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 5: It was. It was pretty dope. 1333 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 2: It was. It was in Miami. Then my two years ago, 1334 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: It's black China. Fought on on. 1335 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 5: The on on the undercar. 1336 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 4: Did Joe Budden take you up on the phone? 1337 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 2: I thought he would. Me and Joe could have. I 1338 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: could have been a big purse. 1339 00:58:59,360 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 5: I thought he would. 1340 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 4: I thought he said they'll fight you on the street. 1341 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 2: Though then, man, come on, man, don't he don't want 1342 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: to fight? He said he didn't want to fight. 1343 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 5: It out. 1344 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 2: We called his person, his manager, We try to put 1345 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: it together. Immediately they said no. 1346 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 4: And you got the dude with the purse ready. 1347 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are ready for so 1348 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 2: I be boxing. 1349 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 5: There's a few of them. There's a couple of celebrities. 1350 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 4: So you got some comingies on deck. 1351 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: Though one hundred percent that'll put it up. It's a 1352 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 2: think of the tickets, like, let's do the math. Let's 1353 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 2: just say, let's say which one Joe Buddn's are. 1354 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 5: Fifty, which ones? 1355 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 2: Pick one? 1356 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 5: Which one do fifty fifty? 1357 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 2: The tickets would be fifty dollars, probably seventy five dollars. 1358 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 2: Fifty to seventy five dollars to see that, and we 1359 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: probably sell at least a million. Do the math. I 1360 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: could see a say, if me and fifty, I could 1361 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: see us selling a million. If Steve ej and fifty 1362 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 2: would have did it, I could see that sold over 1363 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 2: a million million. Do you understand that there's. 1364 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 3: No upside for fifty cent for doing this though it's only. 1365 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 2: Fifty just got hundred seven millions of dollars. 1366 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 3: He's just sitting on these, but he has a cash 1367 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 3: he's doing good. I mean, but the but to hit 1368 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 3: his brand and take for going in there maybe and 1369 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 3: getting knocked out or no. 1370 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 2: No, man, listen, I don't look at look at look at. 1371 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 2: I didn't. I was impressed on it. You know what 1372 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Shit, people mention it. You know what I'm saying. 1373 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's better than you know what I'm saying, 1374 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 2: having beef, shooting each other and shooting each other. 1375 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, for sure, anybody out there you want 1376 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 3: to you want to get it though, it's like in 1377 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 3: that field that is boxing, don't I. 1378 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Don't even like listen, that was something that it would 1379 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: have to be very lucrative for me to do that. Okay, 1380 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: and now you know what I mean. So he's it 1381 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 2: would have to be a lucrative situation. 1382 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 5: Three rounds. 1383 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 2: We're doing it with I think sixteen hous gloves. You 1384 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 1385 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 5: What is lucrative? 1386 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 4: How much you said thirty grand? 1387 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 3: He said, at least you did the less with thirty 1388 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 3: g right, right for thirty right? So sixty grand can't 1389 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 3: get it done? O? 1390 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Hell no, no, no, definitely not. I have to do 1391 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: at least like, like at least a half a million. 1392 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 4: You go from thirty grand to hey, yeah. 1393 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,439 Speaker 2: Price went up, yesterday's price, not today's price. 1394 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: I respect it. Yeah, yeah, Na, I respect that. Yeah, 1395 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 3: half a ticket celebrity boxing. 1396 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Probably come be like I throw you three hundred. You 1397 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 2: think I ain't taking that, Nick, come with a bag 1398 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 2: of three hundred, Right, you think I ain't taking that? 1399 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm breaking that? 1400 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 5: Right? 1401 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Are done taking that? 1402 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,959 Speaker 5: Let's go now for sure? 1403 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, I mean ship we what about a dollar 1404 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 4: a hundred. 1405 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: One hundred, nah, hundred thousan ain't gonna do it. They 1406 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: ain't gonna do it. I'm saying three hundred. I'm gonna 1407 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 2: say five. Come on me with three. 1408 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1409 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 2: But honey, Honey, wouldn't do it. 1410 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 4: Honey, you ain't moving three would do it? 1411 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 6: Three hundred two fifty? 1412 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? 1413 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 4: Yo? 1414 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: D J. 1415 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 3: Blass said you bang from Blad TV for threatening an employee. 1416 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about flag? So I did VLAT 1417 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: I looked at YouTube. I've been doing flat interviews for 1418 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 2: like thirteen years, right, I don't know when vlag used 1419 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 2: to come to the Sauce and just be amazed at 1420 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: what me and Dave was doing. Like another one of 1421 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: the guys that was just like, hey, can I just 1422 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 2: hang out with you guys who come hang around the 1423 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 2: office and just hang around you know what I mean? Vlad, 1424 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 2: I've always done interviews with Flag. Meet my dad's an 1425 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: interview with Flag snops. Lad's cool. But then Vlad at 1426 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 2: one point one day was like, I live in Calabasas. 1427 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Now when I drove, like Vlad let the money go 1428 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 2: to his head. And Vlad's a different guy now, he 1429 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 2: really is. It ain't even that fucking like like I 1430 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 2: did an interview for him. It took him three days 1431 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 2: to give my money. He said, call this lady. I'm like, 1432 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 2: where's my money? At three days? Send my fuck me? 1433 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: And that was it. You know what I'm saying, Why 1434 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 2: are you putting me with her? 1435 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 5: Me and you know each other? 1436 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 2: You saying my cash haden in my fucking That's all 1437 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:58,919 Speaker 2: like dumb shit? 1438 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 4: You threatened you? Did you threaten them? 1439 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 2: No? No, I said, I said, you need to send 1440 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: my money. Now she she probably took that as a threat. Well, 1441 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 2: I look like threatening the woman. I'm gonna beat you up, Like, no, 1442 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 2: send my fuck That was it. You need to send 1443 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 2: my money. Tell Lad, like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1444 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 2: that was, I didn't threaten nobody. You know what I'm saying, 1445 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 2: give my ship, like the why am I taking three 1446 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 2: days to save my money? That was it? 1447 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 3: He said, you you reached out to him to try 1448 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 3: to get back on this platform. 1449 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 2: He no, no, no, Mafi had reached out and was 1450 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 2: saying that they want to do something because Lad was 1451 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 2: interested in the Source documentary. 1452 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying. 1453 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 2: I said, well, if we could do business, there's a bag. 1454 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, it's talk hes gonna you. 1455 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Know, because I'm gonna let I'm gonna take it to 1456 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Netflix ulo everybody. He's gonna have a chance. You know 1457 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1458 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: You know, so sell the Source documentary? You was trying 1459 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 4: to he was? 1460 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, because I go through Mafi for 1461 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 2: Vlad again, Vlad is a different Vlad's. 1462 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 5: Awhere though, I'm gonna keep out the way. 1463 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 2: One thousand, like Vlad's a where though, Like Vlad got 1464 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 2: his whole shit from again, was hanging in our office 1465 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 2: every day looking at what we was doing. All of 1466 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 2: a sudden, he thinks he's something like these guys. Vlad's 1467 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: the guy that wasn't getting pussy like you know what 1468 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying, He wasn't. 1469 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 5: You could see that. 1470 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 4: And I see I'm putting in beef and shit and the. 1471 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Glad's the guy that wasn't getting pussy. Now he gets 1472 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: a little money and now he's flags aware though Vlad 1473 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have any no type of credibility flats sue Rick Ross. 1474 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 5: When they jumped on him. 1475 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I 1476 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 2: don't even know why Vlad's getting this much now. Yes, 1477 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 2: Vlad's interview style and everything, he's successful. 1478 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 5: What he did, He's put a lot of money. 1479 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: In guy's pockets from the streets. 1480 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying. 1481 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 2: Everybody knows that if like Vlad will sell a nick 1482 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 2: out fast if it, you know what I'm saying, Like 1483 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 2: if the Fads ever went to vladd and if it, 1484 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 2: we know what I'm saying, and they needed something for Rad, 1485 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Vlad's gonna sell and I got on. I see that this, 1486 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Glad changed. Rad wasn't like this, 1487 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 2: you know I mean, but get money and they start changing. 1488 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 2: You know, he's he thinks he's a celebrity. Now he 1489 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 2: looked like the guy from me, Like he like a 1490 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 2: pilgowl is the hair cut he got now like a. 1491 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 5: Up in Pennsylvania. 1492 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: He's a uh, what do they call those guys with 1493 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 2: the with the horses and ship The hats looked like 1494 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 2: pilbow Huh the Diamish, Yeah, it was like themish. DJ Flag, 1495 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,439 Speaker 2: he doesn't even DJ. 1496 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 5: What is his name? DJ Flag? What DJ did he do? 1497 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 3: He was saying, you wanted to respond to something on 1498 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 3: his platform, like an interview, though not the source documentary. 1499 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 3: He was saying, you called him to try to respond. 1500 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, man. 1501 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 5: Man, man Ald, you know what I'm saying, like for real, 1502 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying. 1503 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 2: I want to see us bothers like yeah, for sure, 1504 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 2: for show for sure. 1505 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. I'm definitely with you on that. 1506 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 4: How many children did you say? 1507 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Three four four? 1508 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 5: I got Ray Shawn Ray. 1509 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 2: Ray had a deal on records when he was nine 1510 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 2: years old with Big Pun's son, major deal with Sida 1511 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 2: En Hissco. 1512 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 5: They get me a big deal. 1513 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Benny Boom did the video if You Look In as 1514 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 2: a group called three Down on YouTube. 1515 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 5: But Benny Boom shot the video that big budget. They 1516 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 5: gave a big ass. You know what I'm saying. 1517 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: I helped out big puns kids and the mom you 1518 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying at that time, and I got 1519 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,439 Speaker 2: him a big deal with Ray Ray Ray Ray was nine, 1520 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 2: been a hip hop his whole life. No coy De 1521 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 2: Ray of course, you know what I'm saying. 1522 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 5: Taj, he's twenty one. And then I got Zeno eight 1523 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 5: years old. You know what I'm saying, so was he 1524 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:37,439 Speaker 5: had four? 1525 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 4: What's your relationship with your children? 1526 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: My relationship is like pretty cool. I mean, you know 1527 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 2: they you know, I got Zeno for the summer, but 1528 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 2: he lives out. We don't live in the same state, 1529 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: and all. 1530 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 5: The other kids have grown. 1531 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 2: So just like any other parent, when your kids have 1532 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 2: grown and they're doing their own things, they like to 1533 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: do their own things, and sometimes you hit from them, 1534 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't. Pretty much, same thing across the. 1535 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 5: Board with everybody. 1536 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 4: I know, your relationship with Corl Loray is being public. 1537 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, But that's the 1538 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 2: new thing. You know, the new generation of kids make 1539 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 2: it public. You know, they want everything public on the internet. 1540 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 2: That the correspondence, the communication, everything has to go through 1541 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: the internet because people look for validation from somebody. So 1542 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: if you're mad at someone, it's it's fulfilling to them 1543 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 2: to go on and give it to the internet. So 1544 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 2: if somebody agrees with you, because you know the person 1545 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 2: you're mad that's not going to agree with you, especially 1546 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 2: when your shit is wrong, then it's easy for that. 1547 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,439 Speaker 2: Parents are parents. Parents usually know more than the kid. 1548 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm very smart, intellectual, I was very hands on, and 1549 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, the situation with Corey's unfortunate. But you know, 1550 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I'm you know, I raised her. 1551 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: People didn't know who Coy was, would never know our situation. 1552 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 5: That's private matter. 1553 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 2: So the stuff that we go through on the internet, 1554 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm not that shit is like it's like the new. 1555 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 2: It's the new. You know what I'm saying, This is 1556 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 2: what all the kids are doing. So you know, you 1557 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: just have to adapt and a judge like everything else. 1558 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 3: Do you feel disrespected when she says something like she 1559 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 3: disowns you or something like that, do you feel her 1560 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 3: wholes it's disappointed. 1561 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 2: It's disappointed the disrespected part of them. I've come to 1562 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 2: the conclusion that you have to you got to love 1563 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: people from a distance, and you gotta let your kids, 1564 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 2: who are adults now go through the growing pains of 1565 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 2: being an adult, and you can't take too much for 1566 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 2: what they say to heart and get emotional aboudy because 1567 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 2: they still going through a lot inside for whatever reasons. 1568 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: And I just gotta be I gotta you know, her 1569 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 2: health and she's financially independent. That's all you could want 1570 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 2: from a parent. She doesn't have any kids, she don't 1571 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 2: have any Felon, I did my job. 1572 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 4: Were you there? 1573 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 2: Did you raise her? 1574 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 5: Damn right? You know what I'm saying. 1575 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 2: I was with her mom till she was ten, and 1576 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 2: she was with me five months out the year, lived 1577 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 2: with me three times until she was sixteen. And at 1578 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 2: that time, no girl wants to be around their parents. 1579 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,799 Speaker 5: So my thing is with every single other parent out here. 1580 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Goes nothing different unless you didn't take care of your kids. 1581 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Because I took care of Mark. I was the only 1582 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 2: bread winner. And like I said, she was living with 1583 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 2: me five months out the year, and then at times 1584 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,719 Speaker 2: she live with me longer than that, going to school 1585 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 2: in Miami, and I mean in Atlanta, and she was 1586 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 2: living with me in Miami because like all my kids. 1587 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 3: Was the prime time of sauce what was her like, 1588 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 3: what was her ages down sauce? 1589 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Oh man, that was when she was real young, when 1590 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 2: I was getting all that money. That's when she was 1591 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 2: like young, young, young, like three two. She got to 1592 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 2: see it fitling at a young age. 1593 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. At when she was 1594 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 5: real young, you know. 1595 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 2: But even when we lost the source from my start 1596 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 2: hip hop Weekly, it wasn't as much, but I still was. 1597 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 2: I still maintain I still you know what I'm saying. 1598 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 2: So she always was around studio and my life, and 1599 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 2: she's all the celebrities, all the you know what I'm saying. 1600 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 2: But she's been around a lot of women too. When 1601 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 2: me and her mom broke up, and I'm sure that 1602 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 2: that took a lot to her also because at the 1603 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 2: end of the day, a daughter is going to be 1604 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 2: loyal to their mother and you can't blame them for that. So, 1605 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying again, that nothing else I 1606 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 2: went through where anybody else went. 1607 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 3: Through the same, It's nothing else, you know when when 1608 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 3: when I think about it, because my children are young, right, 1609 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:38,879 Speaker 3: so sometimes I think, like, what what will disconnect us? 1610 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, life, life. 1611 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 2: When they get older, you know when when your daughter 1612 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 2: starts having any periods, they get over, they start getting 1613 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 2: into guys, they start want to smoke, they start want 1614 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 2: to be around. 1615 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 5: They don't want to be around. They don't have a daughter. 1616 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 5: So that's what you had. 1617 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 2: It's a big difference. You don't trust me if you 1618 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 2: don't have a daughter. You really don't understand. You really 1619 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 2: can't because daughters are different. Different sons are easy. She's 1620 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 2: all I'm saying. Not nothing's easy being a parent, But 1621 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying, you know, daughters are different. You got to 1622 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 2: be there's way more sensitivity is an emotion, different type 1623 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 2: of emotions involved you. 1624 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 5: Being from the street. You know. 1625 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 2: Listen, let me tell you something. One of the biggest 1626 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 2: problems of the hood is having babies. Having babies in 1627 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 2: their twenties. We all do it, and we all wasn't 1628 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 2: ready for it, none of us. None of us was 1629 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 2: stable enough, none of us was financially stable, none of 1630 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 2: us was mentally stable to have kids. And when we 1631 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 2: have kids, we have to do what's best after that. 1632 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 2: And it's not textbook. It never is. When you're struggling, 1633 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 2: when you know, when the parents are welfared, when there's 1634 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 2: so many things against us just being black and struggling 1635 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 2: in the hood. Now he comes a kid, So you 1636 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,759 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I did the best I could. 1637 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1638 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 2: My thing was, I had to hustle. I had to 1639 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: get money, make sure that she had school clothes, make 1640 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 2: sure she had everything she wanted. When I started getting 1641 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 2: the big money, then that was issue. Whatever she was 1642 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 2: just like all of them was you know what I'm saying. 1643 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 2: But I had rules. Ain't no smoking, You got to 1644 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: do your school, school work, you gotta you. 1645 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying. There was rules. 1646 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Terms of the last few years where she was staying 1647 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,719 Speaker 2: with me, it was my rules were way more stricter 1648 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 2: than her mother's rules. And that usually happens like that 1649 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to daughters. Mothers are a lot more lenient, 1650 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 2: dads are a lot more strict. I was one of 1651 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 2: them strict dads. I don't give it what I'm doing. 1652 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 2: It's saying about being a hypocrite. You the daughter and 1653 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 2: I'm the father, right is there is no disconnect. The 1654 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 2: problem is the internet came in social media and it 1655 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 2: jumped over parents and kids are following that. So parents 1656 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 2: are becoming. 1657 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 5: Less respected less. 1658 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: They look like we're not even needed because they think 1659 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: they know more. They think just as much, if not more, 1660 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 2: because of the Internet. So all I could do. I'm 1661 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 2: not gonna debate with it. I'm not gonna lose stress. 1662 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep on continuing to be the best I can. 1663 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 2: I'm happy that she's the biggest thing is that she's 1664 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 2: financially independent. She has no children, she's very small, and 1665 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 2: she's doing what more Like, I don't have to worry 1666 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 2: about getting those crazy calls that a lot of parents do. 1667 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 2: A lot of my guy's sons are all locked up shit. 1668 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: Y Ray got his own crib, he's doing his center 1669 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,599 Speaker 2: independent units. He just got a new deal with Distro Kid. 1670 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 2: He's thirty years old. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1671 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 2: what more could I want? They none of them have felonies. 1672 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 2: A lot of my kids are locked up for murder, 1673 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 2: tempted murder, all kind of shit. They sons that I've 1674 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 2: seen when they was born in Boston. Like, you know 1675 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 2: what I mean, I have a lot to be blessed for. 1676 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying. Although the relationship, all 1677 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 2: of our relationships could be better with our kids and 1678 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody watching in the comments section say the 1679 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 2: same thing. You know what I'm saying. You just gotta 1680 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: just pray, You gotta pray on it, and you gotta 1681 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 2: make pray that their safe and their health, you know 1682 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And they could eat you know what 1683 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1684 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 5: I don't. 1685 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,599 Speaker 2: I'm not a grandfather yet, feel I mean, my kids 1686 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 2: even have kids like I got raised my kids good? Yeah? Yeah? 1687 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 4: What about their Nick Minaj rackable? 1688 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 2: It looks from a bove Does he look like stand