1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm normally it's so, but normal if it takes for 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: women's game, weird. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: I am Americay, and I'm Carol Marka. How's it going, America, Catherine? 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: It's going all right. We've we've got toddlers on the 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: run over here. They've decided to let themselves out of 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: their room in the morning now, so we couldn't. We 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: could only keep them locked in for so. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Long, right right? 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you you made it longer than most 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: people we tried. The next step is you just have 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: to get them to serve themselves breakfast, and then you're 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: you're really, you know, in a good place. 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: We are. We've actually got the big sisters for that, 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: and that worked out seamlessly this morning. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: So hey, that's what you want, That's what I My parent. 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Advice has always been like, oh, do you feel overwhelmed? 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Have your kids do it everything but the taxes they 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: can do around here. 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And let's you know, I don't think taxes is 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: that far of a stretch either day. All right, let's 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: get into it. Iran continues to exist. Dude, Israel killed 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: a key figure today in Iran, an intelligence head, and 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: Iran is very unhappy about it and has vowed retaliation. 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: They've already launched missilin john strikes across the Gulf region. 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: They are. 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: Still blocking the Strait of hermos Oil prices continue to 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: go up and people are worried about it. And I 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: completely understand that the message from the Trump administration seems 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: to be this will all be over soon. They're not 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: talking about a long war here. I am curious how 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: they're planning to wrap this up. 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: However, Yeah, it's important that a couple of very high 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: level security guys were killed this week in the strikes. 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, one of the guys, several of them instrumental 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: in For instance, when the Green Revolution happened in two 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, they just sort of massacred their way 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: out of it because our administration at the time, the 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Obama administration, did not do much in support of them, 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and then later handed over literal palettes of cash to 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: the people who had administered the massacring of the Green 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Revolution civilians. And so I just don't think that approach 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: of gentle parenting the MIDI is a good idea and 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: just handing them things for killing a bunch of people. Yeah, 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: this is the opposite where they are met with retribution. 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: It appears that Israeli intelligence is just out of this world. 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Is exactly what I was going to say. The Wall 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Street Journal reports that the journal reviewed the contents of 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: one call between a senior Iranian police commander and agent 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: of the Masad, Israel's foreign intelligence service. Can you hear me? 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: A Masad agent can be heard speaking in Farsi. We 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: know everything about you. You are on blacklist and we 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: have all the information about you. Okay, the commander said 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: in the recording quote, I called to warn you in 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: advance that you should stand with your people's side, the 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: Massad agent said, and if you will not do that, 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: your destiny will be as your leader. Do you hear me? 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: And then the guy responds basically like I have no 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: quarrel with you. Please can't help us. I am not 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: your enemy. 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah I am now your enemy. 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: Is a big line from that guy, and it's unbelievable, unreal. 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: And it is gratifying, I'm sure to Iranians in Iran 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: as well, to see retribution handed out to those who 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: have done just incredibly awful things. I know we don't 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: hear about them on TikTok because those incredibly awful things 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: are not important to the algorithm or the people who 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: control it over there, or the influencers who create the content, 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: but truly awful things. And so this is a very 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: different approach. I am with you, Carol, and I'm not 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: exactly sure what the end game looks like. Yeah, Biban 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: at Yahoo was speaking to the people of Iran this 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: week saying basically, we're watching over you now. We have 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: air supremacy, we know where all these guys are, so 74 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: sort of encouraging them to take the reins and to 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: move forward, coming out into the open. 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: Which is what's going to have to happen. 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: And look, I get that we are, you know, once 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: bitten twice shy about intervention in the Middle East. 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: I will just. 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: Say that Iraq was not Iran, and those are very 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: different countries, very different populations. It still might be ineffective. 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: We still might end up with you know, an Iotola 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: like figure. Anything could happen, This could all have been 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: for not you know, I'm ready to be pessimistic, I 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: really am, But I don't think it's the same situation 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: as Iraq, because Iran did have a Western, normal ish 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: educated populous as recently as the late seventies, and I 88 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: think they still exist and we're going to need to 89 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: see them step up and take the reins here. If 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: that happens, it really will be a changed Middle East 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: and a change world. 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm rooting for it. 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm staying optimistic because every day just seems to be 94 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: more wins for the good guys. But yeah, it's hard 95 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: to envision what a long term plan here looks like 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: without the Iranian people becoming. 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: The lead autos. That is key, I mean it is, 98 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: it's obviously not without risk. I do think that there's 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: a chance to change the face of how we do 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: things because past Middle East conflicts have been sort of 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: like Israel dealing with Gaza in the past, they call 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: it mowing the grass, where they would go in and 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: like clear everybody out in minor ways for very short 104 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: periods of time, and then of course it would all 105 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: flood back and it culminated in October seventh because you 106 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: were not really getting to the root of the problem, 107 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: which is that a ra On funds all of these 108 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: exact all of these proxies. And I think that's partly 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: our issue in the Middle East, is you're we were 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: not only not dealing with the head of the snake. 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: We were funding the head of the snake while they're 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: doing battle against us in all these theaters and hurting 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: and maiming and killing many American soldiers and many American assets. 114 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: And so I don't want to ignore that part of it. 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: That is the part that Joe Kent would like to ignore, 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: who just dramatically resigned from the Trump administration as the 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: director of the National counter Terrorism Center, his reason being 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: that Iran posed no eminent threat to our nation and 119 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: it is clear that we started this war due to 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. It took 121 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: him two sentences to get to Israel and lobby. 122 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: The powerful American lobby. Yeah. 123 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: You know, the thing is he's director of the US 124 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: National counter Terrorism Center. We had several attempted terrorist attacks 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: on US soil, and he's silent. And this is where 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: we first learned about the existence of Joe Kent, and 127 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: this is where the American people first hear from him, 128 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: is he is personally not in favor of the war 129 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: that his commander in chief has launched in Iran, and 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: so he resigns in protests, and of course goes immediately, 131 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: and I mean, look, you read his resignation letter, and 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: you're like, you could have just sent an email to 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson directly. 134 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: You didn't have to do this. 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: So of course he's going on Tucker today as we're 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: recording this, he's also planning to go on Candice Owens. Obviously, 137 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: you know what good expose yourself be who you RESI 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: let's let's. 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: Learn who these people are. 140 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: If you can't do the job and back the commander 141 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: in chief, you have to resign. One of the paragraphs 142 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: in this resignation letter is early in this administration, high 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: ranking is really officials and influential members of the American 144 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your Trump 145 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Trump's American First platform and sewed pro war sentiments to 146 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: encourage a war Iran. This echo chamber was used to 147 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: deceive you into believing that Iran posed an eminent threat 148 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to the United States and that you should strike now 149 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: there was a despite no clear path to us with 150 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: swift victory. He has in the past. Jean Kent in 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty advocated for taking out Iran's nuclear and missile capabilities, 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: but we're in a different place now. 153 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I. 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Looked up his ex profile and he saw that he 155 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: was following me, and I was like, that's weird. But 156 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 3: it turns out he used to be a completely normal 157 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: ish guy who you know, would have agreed with this 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: war in Iran. There's this like a lot of chatter 159 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: about the fact that he his wife. Actually he mentions 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: it in the in the letter his first wife died 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: in Syria fighting Isis. He blames that on Israel somehow, 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: as if like that was anything to do with Israel. 163 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: But allegedly his second wife is far left. There's kind 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: of this thing in the conservative world and a conservative 165 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: guy is only as conservative as the woman he's married to. 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: I kind of see that, I do, even though his. 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Current wife writes for works for grey Zone, which is 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Max Blumenthal's outlet, which is Yeah, Joe Kent has been 169 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: around for a while. I knew about him because he's 170 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: lost twice in Washington State running for the House of Representatives. 171 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: He primaried Jamie Herrera Butler in twenty twenty two because 172 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: of her vote to impeach Trump after January sixth incident, 173 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and he beat her in the primary. But then lost 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: to Maria glosen camp Perez, who is that charmingly sort 175 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: of like odd woman. Yeah, who's like a bit of 176 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: a moderate Democrat who speaks sense sometimes from Washington State. 177 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: He's lost to her twice. That was a seat that 178 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: would have been Republican had he not primaried Butler. And 179 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: then he got himself this slot in the Trump administration, 180 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: and then what a year into it, he's just self 181 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: immolating on this thing with a bunch of stuff that's 182 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: not even true, like the idea that his very heroic 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: cryptologist Navy cryptologists wife Shannon was killed somehow by Israel. Yeah, 184 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: when she was in Syria in a civil war situation 185 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: with isis there to do suicide bombings. I mean, yeah, 186 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: that's not what you're saying it is. Nor is the 187 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: misinformation campaign that you allege Trump has been misled by, right, And. 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: It's just it's so obvious that these people have fallen 189 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: for something, I mean, or are purposefully you know, heading 190 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: down this path. 191 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean. Donald Trump posted on truth Social a tweet 192 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: from Joe Kent in twenty twenty where he tweets at 193 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: real Donald Trump, so he's Kent is tweeting at Trump, 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: and he says, we should not sit and wait for 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: the next attack, wipe Iran's ballistic capability out and get 196 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: our troops out of there are only targets now, No 197 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: US killed in action in the tribute to the professionalism 198 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: of our military and intel professionals, not Iranian restraint. He 199 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: was so for this, and now he's like, no, no more, 200 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm not for this anymore. 201 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: Israel is lying to us. Israel has kind of petitioned 202 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: the American government to get us involved in this. They 203 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: have forced us into it. It's just nonsense. It's just nonsense. 204 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, and a couple things too. And I think this 205 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: is something you and I point out about Trump hiring. 206 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Being pro Trump should not be enough to put you 207 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: in an important position. There should be more to it. 208 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: And if you do make that the criteria, then you 209 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: end up elevating people that you maybe shouldn't elevate, like 210 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Joe Kent, who again I would point out, lost twice 211 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: in this district and perhaps that should have been a 212 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: flag for Trump. And then the same goes for the media, 213 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: where being anti Trump should not make Joe Kent a 214 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: guy you thought was a total kook. Until five minutes ago, 215 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: your new massacre of great integrity, Right, please join MTG 216 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: in the green room. That's what's going to happen. He's 217 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: going to be everywhere. He also very much looks the part. 218 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: He's a handsome guy, he's a Special Forces veteran, he's 219 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: a gold star spouse. Like, I get it. But when 220 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: people flipped this quickly, as MTG did and as Joe 221 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Kent has, I would just treat that with some weariness, right. 222 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And there's also you know, on the right, 223 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: same thing. All the people who basically demanded loyalty to 224 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: Trump from people like me and you, for example, are 225 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: now like okay with somebody like Joe Kent openly opposing 226 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. 227 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: And we talked about last. 228 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: Episode, Tucker releasing a clip from his show where he 229 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: says Pete Hegseth, Marco, Rubio, Huckabee, they're all basically in 230 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: the service of Israel that it's okay to say now, 231 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: I mean, where are the people on the right who 232 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: used to police this so carefully that you couldn't step 233 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 3: out of line and you couldn't disagree. 234 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: With Trump at all? 235 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: Now this guy's trashing the Trump administration and you're all 236 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: sitting by quietly and not saying anything. He's saying, Cash 237 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: Patel is in the service of Israel. I mean, come on, 238 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: say something. 239 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: By the way, some have wondered where Tulsea Gabbard stands 240 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: on all of this, because she is someone who's more 241 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: reluctant to use American power, has been against intervening in 242 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Venezuela and Iran in the past. Jim Garretty noted she 243 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: used to on her campaign site sell no War in 244 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: Iran t shirts and you know some She's going to 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: be testifying on the Hill this week, so we'll see 246 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: what comes of that, getting some tough questions. However, I 247 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: sort of admire that she is if she disagrees with 248 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: the president, has been doing her job, apparently by giving 249 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: him briefings, maybe trying to convince him, but when he 250 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: makes a decision, saying that's the decision. She has kept 251 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: a low profile recently, and perhaps that is imposed by 252 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: the Trumpet administration, but when she tweets or shows up, 253 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: she's saying, this is what we're doing. I believe in 254 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: the President's plan. 255 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what you want from administration members. There's 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: also this and again a lot of this is, you know, 257 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,479 Speaker 3: rumors or speculation, but that Kent played some role in leaks. 258 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Out of the administration. 259 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: And the reason that people believe this is Carolyn Levitt 260 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: was on TV saying. 261 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: This, Telta Gabber, the Director of National Intelligence will be 262 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: testifying this morning. 263 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Does the President still have full confidence in her? 264 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: He does, yes, and we look forward to watching the 265 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 5: director's hearings today. 266 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: And I think that anyone who. 267 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: Has been a suspected of leaking or is proven to 268 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 5: be a leaker, will not be welcome in this administration. 269 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 5: I know that for a fact, because I've heard the 270 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: President say it myself. There are investigations underway into leakers 271 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: in this administration, and people will be held accountable for that. 272 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: It's unacceptable and it cannot be tolerated. 273 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: It's interesting because again, the take that I hear is 274 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: that she's not talking about the traditional leaking to the 275 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: New York Times. She's talking about leaking to people like 276 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson. So we'll see where this plays out. I 277 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: hope they go after the leakers. 278 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: To any outlet. 279 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: I think that that's really important. I think you need 280 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: the lock box, you need the steel trap that doesn't 281 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: exit the administration. I think that that's really important for 282 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: national security. And if somebody is leaking to podcast to stand, 283 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: you know, we need to put a stop to that. 284 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: I want a note on the Kent front of Bernard 285 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Stanford put this well, and I think it applies to 286 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, various personalities, says Joe. Kent illustrates how disrupting 287 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: the grifter pipeline into Republican politics is a do or 288 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: die issue for the right. Kent went from tweeting to 289 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: getting Trump's endorsement, to slop to losing a likely our 290 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: seat twice, to getting a sinecure and then blowing it 291 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: up at the first opportunity, like at some point in 292 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: that process, someone needs to go. This doesn't look promising 293 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: despite the jaw line like we gotta yeah. 294 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: I miss when we held people to account based on 295 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: their policy ideas. 296 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: And I missed when. 297 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: We would enforce conservative values on our candidates and have 298 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: them know what they're talking about. I don't think that 299 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: was that long ago, and I think it might be 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: a good system to go back to. 301 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Well, And I would note that when you and I 302 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: say somebody like, oh, I don't know, for instance, Lori 303 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Chaves Derrimer, who disagreed with us on labor policy and 304 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: is to live for this administration and ended up as 305 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Secretary of Labor and then ended up with a big 306 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: old scandal. We were right, yeah, listenbe we should judge 307 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: that way, right. 308 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: It's not a bad system. It actually quite works out. 309 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: People who are into the ideology, who are part of 310 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: the conservative movement are just generally not always because it happens, 311 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: but generally not going to blow themselves up in that manner. 312 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: It's a helpful gauge, it really is. We're going to 313 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: take a short and come right back with more on normally. 314 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: We are back on normally. 315 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: Where the Senate continues to consider the SAVE Act. It's 316 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: short for Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, and it's a 317 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: proposed federal law to tighten voter rules and specifically to 318 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: make sure that only US citizens can vote in federal elections. Now, 319 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: we're often told this never happens. Illegal immigrants never vote 320 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: in our elections. But of course there's stories all the 321 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: time about it happening. 322 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: There was one just this week. And what SAVE does 323 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: is it requires proof of US citizenship to vote. 324 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: That could be a passport, birth certificate, naturalization papers, and 325 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: it makes citizenship status a little bit more strictly so 326 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: to me, an. 327 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Important distinction is that it requires that proof of citizenship 328 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: at the point of registration. It does not require it 329 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: every time you go. 330 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: You don't need to carry around papers. 331 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah I carry that around now. But at the point 332 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: of registration, where normally you would catch a lot of 333 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: people who probably aren't eligible and say, oh, I don't 334 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: know vot voter. Where you go to the dmctuation or 335 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: as an ellegal lately and your driver's license to drive 336 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: the giant eighteen wheelers that we're apparently letting people drive, 337 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: then you get pushed into voter registration. So in this 338 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: case you would have to say proactively, I am a citizen. 339 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Now you can register me. 340 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: Right absolutely. So. 341 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: I mean, my daughter just got her driver's license like 342 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: last week, and she pre registered to vote in Florida. 343 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: She's only sixteen, but when she turns eighteen, her voter 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: editation will kick in. I hope at that time when 345 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: you didn't have to produce any citizenship papers or you know, 346 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: passport or berth certificate or anything. But I assume there 347 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: is something in the system that protects against that. I 348 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: don't know for sure, and that's really what I think 349 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: this act is all about. 350 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: Now. 351 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: The thing is, and I you know, I've been kind 352 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: of loosely following this story. A lot of people are 353 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: mad at Republicans in the Senate for not pursuing this, 354 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: and it becomes a bigger issue when Republicans in the 355 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: Senator saying things. 356 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: Like, oh, it won't pass. It won't pass, So what 357 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: put it. 358 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: Up to a vote? See who stands with you? See 359 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: who does it it. I don't think that election integrity 360 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: is a Republican only issue, and if all the Democrats 361 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: vote against it, that's a big tell to the American 362 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: people who want secure. 363 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: Elections and who doesn't. 364 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: And so, you know, to me, I think it's very 365 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: easy to say, put it up to a vote. Anyway, 366 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: see what happens us. Senator John Fetterman, who has become 367 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: you know, the greatest Democrat of all. 368 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: Time somehow, is in support of this bill. He says, eighty. 369 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: Three percent of Americans agree on voter I D. Seventy 370 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: one percent of Democrats agree on voter I D. Keep 371 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: it basic photo ID to vote. Stop turning this into 372 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: a Christmas list and attacking vote by mail, and he's 373 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: blaming Republicans here for not, you know, not just to 374 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: having it be the one issue. And I agree, if 375 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: GOP won real reform over a show vote, put out 376 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: a clean, standalone bill, and I'm an, I great, let's 377 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: do it. 378 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yes, because there's a couple things going on here. 379 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: There's the proof of citizenship, which is slightly deeper than 380 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: just showing up with your ID, which I think most 381 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: states would do well to impose. And again, eighty three 382 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: percent issue. Nobody's mad about it, except for Democrats who 383 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: run elections interestingly. So it is a little bit more 384 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: than that. Trump is threatening to add or to want 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: to demand this amendment that would say basically, mail in 386 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: ballots don't work anywhere anymore, we're not going. 387 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: To do this. 388 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't like that because that's federalizing elections in a 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: way that I think is a bad idea. Then there's 390 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: all this talk about should you get rid of the filibuster, 391 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: go nuclear on the legislative filibuster in order to get 392 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: this passed, And I think that's a bad idea, at 393 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: least in the judicial filibuster, which Harry Reid blew up. 394 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: We made them blow it up first before we then 395 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: use that tool. They had to take the political heat 396 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: for it, and it was intense. People did not like 397 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: that large change in the system when Harry redid it, 398 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and Harry Reid paid for it, not just electorally, but 399 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: with all those judges on the Spring Court. So we 400 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: should tread lightly there. There's also talk of a talking filibuster, 401 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: like let's just make them give speeches forever. And I'm 402 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: not going to bore you with the details, but there's 403 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: a great National Review piece about the talking philibuster quagmire 404 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: that explains how basically we would end up with just 405 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: ninety four speeches by Democrats over and over and over 406 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: again until we die. So that's the synopsis of that 407 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: how that would not probably work out well. But yeah, 408 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: I do think it's worth to the greatest extent possible 409 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: getting people on the record about right this kind of thing. 410 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I don't love vote by mail. I understand the 411 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: argument against it. 412 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: I've had people say to me things like, oh, I 413 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: voted for my wife. 414 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: Like that's illegal, dude, Like don't do that, ye do that, But. 415 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: That's a very common thing it's it is something that 416 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: does happen, and vote by mail, but that could be 417 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: a separate issue. That could be a separate question right now. 418 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea to get this part 419 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: done and then focus on other issues with things like 420 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: vote by mail. I mean I personally, I problem I 421 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: have with vote by mail is I think a lot 422 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 3: of snowbirds vote in Florida's elections while living elsewhere, and 423 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't like it because it keeps my state a little. 424 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: Bit more blue than it should be. 425 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: So fair, you know, I yeah, I think if you're 426 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: going to vote, you got a common person and vote, 427 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: and if you you want to vote by mail, you 428 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: should have a real good reason for it. 429 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: It can't just be I don't actually live there. 430 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: I also prefer it when there's actually a reason for it. 431 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: And I just think that it would be a poison 432 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: pill if you're sticking that amendment into this bill and 433 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: you're definitely not getting anything past at that point. And 434 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with states sort of regulating that in Republicans 435 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: trying their best to play catch up, which they've had 436 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: to do for many years now on those kinds of things. Meanwhile, 437 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: DHS remains closed. We've had four g hoty attacks in 438 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: two weeks, and the Department of Homeland Security is proactively 439 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: shut down by Democrats because they're attempting to get ICE reforms, 440 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: despite the fact that ICE funding went out the door 441 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: with the one big beautiful bill. Hats off to whoever's 442 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: idea that was, because that was smart, and so they're 443 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: not making a difference on the thing they want to 444 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: make a difference song, But they are making sure that 445 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: TSA agents are unpaid and there's a bunch of, you know, 446 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: cascading effects from that, including delays at airports, and that 447 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: various parts of Department of Homeland Security are not funded 448 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: while we have Ghati attacks happening once a week. That 449 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: seems like if it were the other way around, right, 450 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: there might be a lot of grilling of these lawmakers 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: about it. Instead, what you get is House members like 452 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: Representative Greg Sezar. He's from Texas. Do you remember he's 453 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: the one who sat outside the capitol that one time 454 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: and did a hunger strike for like six hours. 455 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: He's between lunch and dinner. 456 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's very theatrical. He goes to a Texas airport, 457 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: runs into John Cornyan, who's bringing food lunches by for 458 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: the TSA agents while they're not getting their paychecks and 459 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: say there's like you people should pay the TSA agents. 460 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: My dude, yeah too, y'all are the ones who closed 461 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: down DHS. And Democrats are trying to say, like we 462 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: want to split it up into different but it's already passed, guys. Yeah, 463 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: it's already passed the House as a bill. Ice isn't 464 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: in it, right, Ice funding isn't in it. Just do it, yeah, 465 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: or you know, press ask them some questions. 466 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: About right, obviously, this is the front page of the 467 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: New York Times every day. Right, national security is at risk, 468 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: and you know, I mean, look, you know, we can't 469 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: wait for the media to be fair. But I just 470 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: hope one of them gets caught up in a long 471 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: line at the airport, and that's how it's going to 472 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: get fixed. 473 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: That's how we get the story. 474 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, a top New York Times editor gets into a 475 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: long line at the airport that's just getting done. 476 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, well it'll certainly turn into somehow it was 477 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Trump's fault time show, of course, of course, but I 478 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: would suggest they just you know, fund it. 479 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: Let's take a short break and be right back with 480 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: more on normally. 481 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: All right, we are back on normally with some just 482 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: really good news. Our friend Klay Travis cites the Wall 483 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: Street Journals reporting on the homicide rate down to a 484 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: perhaps one hundred and twenty five year low on murder 485 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: in the United States last year. This isn't the first 486 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: I've heard about this, but I do think it's something 487 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: that Trump and Republicans would do well to tellt more often, 488 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: because that's insane. 489 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing, because it really is such an astonishing number, 490 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five year low. I had somebody 491 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: in my comments when I posted this thing it's because 492 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: teenagers sit at home on screens, nothing to do with Trump, 493 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, were they not on screens in 494 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: the last ten years? 495 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: And that person said it got worse during in post COVID. 496 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: There's literally a term for it now, bed riding. And 497 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: I was like, but murder spike during COVID when we 498 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: were all at home on our streets. 499 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Make it makes sense? It would be It would be 500 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: an an accomplishment even for us to have moved out 501 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: of the COVID era spike, right, even if you had 502 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: just gotten it down that much, that would have been great. Also, 503 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: as a counter to this, I would add that increased 504 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: police presence and guard presence in Washington, d C. Gave 505 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: us like the best three months with as little murder 506 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: as we've seen in forever in the city and no 507 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: rioting and looting and all sorts of craziness down at 508 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Navy Yard, which is this built up area where a 509 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: lot of people like to go, but there's also a 510 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of young people not bed riding instead out harassing people. 511 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: And it's so funny. As soon as the police presence 512 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: went down, the groups of young people out at Navy 513 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Yard went up again. So it's just it seems logical 514 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: to me. 515 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that Trump's. 516 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: Emphasis on police presence, on making sure makes a different 517 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: criminals are punished on Oh, I don't know, deporting a 518 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of violent criminals is making a difference, and that 519 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: that is something he should sell to voters. 520 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 521 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: Look, last week you and I our last episode, You 522 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: and I talked about how certain police precincts and blue 523 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: cities are being told to cover crime in a different way, 524 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: to code it differently. But murder is murder, Like, it's 525 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: not like they're going to turn murder into a petty crime, 526 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: like they just they can't. So it's one of those 527 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: situations where the numbers are the numbers and people because 528 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: again I've gotten comments in my thing like oh, they're 529 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: just not reporting it, Like I'm sorry, they are reporting 530 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: dead bodies when they come across those dead bodies. 531 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a whole thing. 532 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: There was another report in Axios a couple of months 533 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: ago on this same type of stat of the thirty 534 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: five cities reporting homicide rates, thirty one solid declines. Murders 535 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: plummeted forty one percent in Denver and fell forty percent 536 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. In Omaha Ebrasca. This is important 537 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: partly because it was the year of twenty twenty five 538 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: when this was established. So it's hard to I know, 539 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: there can be many factors. Yeah, Biden's certainly not one 540 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: of them, like democratic national leadership ain't one of the factors. 541 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And to the extent that they are a factor, it's 542 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: because in places like my town here, they keep murderers 543 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: from being sent home, which is what Abigail Spaanberger and 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: my liberal prosecutor are currently doing with a murderer of 545 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: a forty one year old mother in my town. 546 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm blue areas they're still struggling. I don't know 547 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: what to say to those people who continue to push 548 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: the bad policies in those places or vote for people 549 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: who support those policies. My ex governor Kathy Hochel, she's 550 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: suddenly realized that her tax base has left for Florida, 551 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 3: and she had this to say. 552 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 4: And being conscious of the facts that I need people 553 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: who are high net worth to support the generous social 554 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: programs that we want to have in our state. Right now, 555 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: there are some patriotic millionaires. We've stepped up. Okay, cut 556 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: me the checks, they just if you want to be supportive, 557 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: But maybe the first step should be go down to 558 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: Palm Beach and see what you can bring back home. 559 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: Because our tax base has been eroded. So I philosophically 560 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: don't have a problem. It is like I have to 561 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: look at the fact that we are in competition with 562 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: other states who have less of a tax burden on 563 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: their corporations and their individuals, And I would say remote 564 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: work changed everything. There are people who could only work 565 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: in an office in Manhattan and work in New York State, 566 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: and they were captives to our state. 567 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: There within a state. 568 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: We saw that that's not the case. I mean, you 569 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: know Wall Street businesses looking at Texas. They're not going 570 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: there because they have a nicer governor. I know that 571 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: for sure, But they're going there because of the tax Right. 572 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: We have to be smart about this, and but we 573 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: can fund what we want to fund with what we 574 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: already are taking. 575 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 576 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 3: It's so amazing because in twenty twenty two, Kathy Hokel 577 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: famously told Republicans in New York to jump on a 578 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: bus and head down. 579 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: To Florida, where you belong. 580 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: Many of us were either already here, which I was, 581 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: or heading that way. And yeah, they lost this tax 582 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: base because of people like her. 583 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: She called Florida overrated at that time. She said that 584 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: these people were not New Yorkers, and these people heard 585 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: her loud and clear. My favorite part of that clip 586 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: is that she's imploring the rich people who are supporting 587 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: her to go and get their friends back, like she's 588 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: like basically blaming them. Like you want to do something, 589 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: go get your rich friends back. 590 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you chase them away, Kathy. 591 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 592 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: The watching it dawn on a Democrat soday, middle finger 593 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: to the people you want to support seventy percent of 594 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: what you're doing with their hard earned money is a 595 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: bad approach. Is hilarious. She also just straight up says 596 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: we are unable to hold them captive anymore to our 597 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: crappy system, and you must therefore convince them it's their 598 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: duty to come back. I don't think that's gonna work. 599 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: Florida has great weather and a great setup now, and 600 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: indeed she cannot hold people captive anymore. And I would 601 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: also just like to note that when it comes to 602 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: shoes or skincare, I'm going to be using the line 603 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: I need people who are high net worth to support 604 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: the things that I want to pay for. Amazing, tell 605 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: my children, But tell my children, I need high net 606 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: worth people. Okay, yeah, same, same. 607 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh it's so good. This is such a high note 608 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: to end the show on. 609 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: Because Kathy Hokeel finally realizing what she's done. 610 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: Chef's kiss. 611 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Newsome's going to be doing the same thing later this year. 612 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, or he's not gonna be governor anymore, and 613 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna be like, it's somebody else's problems. 614 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: I did what I could. They left under you. 615 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, indeed, someone else's fault always always well. 616 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Normally. 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