WEBVTT - KILLER BATS!! 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.120 Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:14.840 of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.680 and today on the show, we are talking about murderous 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.880 bats and the bats who love them, from scary draculas 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.880 who have a soft side, to beats who are the 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:30.440 scourge of the water. These bats have unusual victims. Joining 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.880 me today to discuss some spooky spunky bats is actor comedians. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.360 She's been in shows like Abby's Hacks, Abbott, Elementary Lucifer 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.479 and After Midnight It's Kimmy of a Portia. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.800 Welcome. Wow. When you said bats, you left out the 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.720 murderous part. Uh. When you teed up what we be 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:49.839 chatting about, and. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.479 We're talking about we're talking about bad boy bats, like 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.120 these are the bad boys of the bat world. There's many, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.480 many species of bats, hundreds of species of bats, and 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.120 a lot of them are real cute where they just 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:08.280 kind of like sip nectar, eat fruit, eat bugs. These 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.720 guys are a little more hardcore. I thought it's sort 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.880 of Halloween speed speas and it's spooky speason. Uh. And 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.560 so we got to talk about some spooky bats who 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:27.360 actually are while not dangerous to people, they are they 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:34.160 are dangerous to some animals and perhaps fit the spooky 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.960 theme a little more than like say, an adorable fruit bat. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.119 That's fair, But I feel like you tell me, because 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.480 you'll know, what is the bat that we're like hanging 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.880 all over our homes on these decorations, the like plainest looking. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.440 Bat, you mean, like the like you know. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.760 The classic Halloween decor Halloween decorvette. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.480 You know, I actually do have an answer to that, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.440 which and this is very opinion based because, like you know, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.240 I would say that the Halloween de coor bat probably 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.800 does vary a bit. But the one that to me 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.960 looks like the most sort of like this bat is 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.160 going to turn into a Dracula at any moment, is 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.600 the spectral bat? Actually have an image of that for 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:30.680 you look at it? Yeah, it is like it's got 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.280 just kind of the classic bat features. It's it's relatively large, actually, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:41.520 it's it's got a wingspan of about three feet. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.000 Uh. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:47.040 You know, it's it's like I would say, it is large, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:53.280 large mouse, small rat sized in its body. Uh, And 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:58.000 it has just the classic bat presentation where it's got fangs, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.640 it's got the snubnose. It's got kind of an elongated face. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.720 I would say that this one, like when I like, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.799 let me see if I just like google Halloween decoration bat. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.800 I mean a lot of them are a lot of 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.399 them are just black outlines. So that's there's that, right, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.360 But yeah, when I look at like sort of the 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.160 more realistic ones. Actually a lot some of the like 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:32.320 realistic ones, Like they go for really big ones, so 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.000 then they model them after fruit bats, who actually are 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.480 quite large. But yeah, they're fruit bats. There. They don't 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:45.560 they don't drink blood, they don't eat eat. But yeah, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.640 I would say that this one, the spectral bat, is 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.400 the sort of to me, one of the more classic 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.520 spooky looking bats. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.920 Yeah, and I believe you. I'm looking at it. That 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.720 looks like that looks like all the haunted house hanging guys. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.480 It's black, you know I think of bats, you think 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.800 like pitch black. Like the wings. I mean, his body's 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.520 like a little bit brown and fuzzy. But yeah, that's it. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:09.119 That's the guy. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.680 That's the guy. That's the one. They're also known as 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.440 false vampire bats because a lot of people kind of 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.040 have the misapprehension that because they have those long teeth 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.719 that they are vampire bats. I mean, this looks like 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:27.640 this looks sort of like a classic vampire but something 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.720 that you would expect to like fly up to you, 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.640 like bite your neck or something, they don't do that. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.320 They don't do that. Vampire bats tend to be much smaller. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:43.039 They usually have pretty snubby faces. Actually, there's only I 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:48.440 think about three species of true vampire bats who drink blood. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.320 So actually, when you're looking at the hundreds of species 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.000 of bats, very few of them actually drink blood. This 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:04.400 one does not drink blood. This one's actually found in Mexico, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.599 South and Central America, which actually that is the region 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:13.200 where vampire bats do tend to be. But yeah, this one, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.880 despite having those really long things that look like you know, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.840 it would be using that for sip in blood carry. Yeah, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.640 they do not feed on blood. But in my opinion, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:31.280 they're actually more menacing than vampire bats because vampire bats, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:36.560 despite sort of their you know, spooky name, they they 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.200 do drink blood, but they're more like parasites than they 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.760 are predators. We will talk later in the show about 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.960 a case in which they are they are actually a 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.839 threat to the animals that they prey on. But usually 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.560 it's like they will nip at the ankles of some livestock, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.719 kind of lap at the blood a little bit, and 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:04.680 unless they intentionally spread some disease, they're not really harming, uh, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.760 their their host. It's more like it they're more like 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:10.800 fluffy mosquitoes. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.360 I was gonna say mosquito. That's exactly what it sounds 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:15.960 like to me. Keeping at the ankles. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.360 Come on, I know, that's yeah, that's it's like the 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.360 most annoying place to get the mosquito bite and also 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.880 one of the more because that's your ankles are often 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.960 the thing that's uncovered, right you're wearing maybe you're wearing jeans, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.920 kulottes just in case you got to wade through some 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.040 water and you're wearing sanday, yeah, and then you get 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.760 you get the bites right on the like right on 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.159 the ankle bone is the worst, and they seem to 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:47.280 love it. So I hate that so much. Uh, it's 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.320 just because in it there's not a lot of meat 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:56.119 to itch down there. It's yeah, no, it's it's very bad. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.599 So yeah, these are these are they're more vampire bats 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.200 and more like pests. They're menaces. They're not really that 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.960 scary in terms of like they don't drain blood, humans 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.400 certainly don't have much to worry about from them, Like 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.440 occasionally there will be there's only one species of vampire 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:23.280 bat that frequently encounters humans and might sometimes drink human blood. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.280 But again, like they're not draining blood. They usually only 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.560 do it to people who work on farms with livestock. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:36.120 So so, yeah, vampire bats not that scary. But these guys, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.440 these spectral bats, I would say they kind of fit 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.400 the villainous bat description a little more because even though 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.200 they don't drink blood, they are carnivores and they're not 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.120 just insectivores. Like there are a lot of species of 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.800 bats who eat insects. It's great, they eat up mosquitoes, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.400 so like they are actually yeah, like we're we're on 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.040 team bats when it comes to mosquitoes. So they're they're great, right, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:09.480 But no, these guys actually are very fierce hunters. They're carnivores, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.520 and while they do eat insects, sometimes they will eat 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:19.360 birds and other bats and rodents as well. Like they're 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:25.960 big enough that they can actually snatch sizeable small mammals 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:27.400 and eat them. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.040 Oh, they're eating other bats eating other bats. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.360 It's bats. Uh, it's bats. The bats. It's very sad 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:41.080 to see. So they stalk their prey. Actually, in terms 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.560 of eating other bats, they'll sometimes eat vampire bats because 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.959 vampire bats are pretty yeah, they're pretty small, so they 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:53.400 can they can grab them and they'll silently like hover 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:59.360 above their victims. They use echolocation to find them, uh, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.679 and then they swoop down grab them with their claws, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.439 and then those you know those teeth that have those 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.600 like big fangs that make them look like a little draculas, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.719 they use those more like a jaguar than they Then, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:17.560 like a vampire, they bite down on the skull of 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.679 their prey to kill them. Oh, and then fly their 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.960 lifeless bodies back to their roost where they feed on 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.000 all the edible parts and just dump the inedible parts 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:34.199 like feathers, tails, bones down in a big pile beneath them. So, yeah, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.559 these are these are the real deal. These are the 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.160 These are the most halloweeny bats I think out there. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.760 Dang, they're dumping these bones like they've got a crypt 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:50.360 down there. Yeah, the little catacombs. Yeah, of they're dead 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.520 prey freaky guys. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.200 Yeah, they've got a big big bone pile under them, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:01.880 and they're social, so they roost with other spectral bats 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:08.600 and so they having a bone bone party, bone party. Yeah. Actually, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.840 so like, yeah, when you're ranking bats in terms of 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.240 sort of bad boy scary monster behavior, I think that 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.480 these ones rank pretty high. But still it's kind of 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.720 funny is when it comes to their own species, they're 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.480 really really sweet. So when they're not out murdering, they're 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:33.560 actually really nice. Wow. They greet their friends with like 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.240 this little hug, so they kind of like wrap their 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.360 wings around each other. Uh, it's very cute. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.880 I like them now. Yeah all you need, all I 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.160 need out of animals is that they like hugs, and 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:46.560 I'm in. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.560 Yeah. They cuddle their families in sort of like a 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.240 big sort of hug ball. They all like snuggle together. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:59.600 Males will bring food to their female partners when she's nursing, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.839 so she can't really hunt while she's nursing, so her 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.840 male partner will bring her food, you know, like a 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:13.480 murder victim of course. But yeah. Still. Parents will also 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.320 bring prey to their pups once their pups are big 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.880 enough to start eating solid food. Uh. And yeah, they 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.400 they just kind of exhibit very like fun, spunky behavior. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.040 They like to play with each other. They'll chase bugs 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.520 around like they they don't even like they'll chase cockroaches 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.600 and stuff and bugs that are in their roost, and 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.360 then they don't even necessarily kill them. They'll like catch 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.400 up to them and be like, all right, keep running 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.480 because like this is fun for me. They're like little 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.120 They're basically like little flying house cats. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.120 I guess, so that's kind of cute. I wish they'd 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.640 get those cockroaches though. Yeah, those guys they were killings 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.520 a mosquitoes, they'd be my heroes. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:12:00.640 I mean, I do think they probably kill cockroaches pretty frequently. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.240 I don't know. I don't know if they're eating mosquitoes 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.080 that might be a little too small for them. But yeah, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.080 cockroaches I think would be something that they would would 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.400 kill and eat. But yeah, it's just it's like they're 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:15.680 they have kind of the same demeanor as like house cats. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.560 Maybe they're even a little more social than housecats. But yeah, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.800 like they go out, they murder, and then they come 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.320 home and they cuddle. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.000 So far, I like this murderer. This murderer is not. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:32.760 So bad, right, It's like it's like Jason Voorhees after 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.240 like a long day of murdering camp counselors, like just 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.960 comes home as his wife and his kid. They're all 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.400 like wearing the little hockey masks. Uh yeah, just uh 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:46.960 you know, haven't. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.680 An they chase their neighbor around. Yeah exactly. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.679 But we're gonna take a quick break and then we're 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:04.240 going to talk about a couple of diminiscing bats. Uh include, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 And these ones have a very interesting sort of like 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.560 the dark Knight theme, except this is the darkest night. Uh, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.840 Batman's getting naughty with it will be your back, so 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:22.880 you know Batman Robin there? Uh what I mean what 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:27.719 like Robin's ward. I've never quite understood the legality of that. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.200 Yeah, he's just quite literally just it's plainly and he's 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.600 just the sidekick, right, Yeah, he's like tags along, he's 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:36.240 like an intern. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:41.120 He's an intern. Well, in the wild, bats and Robin's 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.200 don't necessarily get along. In fact, there has been a 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:48.520 recent exciting scientific discovery which is that a bout was 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:53.319 observed eating a robin. Oh and we as we just discussed, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.360 bats do eat birds, so that's not necessarily like with 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.120 a spectral bat, that's it's not necessarily news, but usually 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.840 it's by snatching them from nests or while they're roosting, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.200 so kind of like when they're just hanging out. But 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.840 there have been new observations that show some bats have 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:18.000 mastered and even more impressive bird snatching method of grabbing 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:22.480 migratory birds right out of the air while they are 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:30.640 migrating and then eating them mid air. So yeah, no, yeah, yeah, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:36.080 like little like that, like little fluffy drones, murder drones, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.920 but fluffy. So this guy, this guy is called the 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.720 Greater Noctual bat. Actually he's pretty cute. He's kind of 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.760 a goofball. Like the one we just talked about. The 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.120 spectral bats kind of look like your classic spooky HALLOWEENI bat. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.280 This one looks like a funny little guy. He's the 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.000 largest bat in Europe. He's got a wingspan of one 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.880 and a half feet, as fluff brown fur and rounded 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.880 ears and kind of a goofy face. I did share 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.360 an image of them with you. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.360 He just kind of you know, yeah, I am looking 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.280 at it. It looks like a squish faced dog. Yeah. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:19.040 Yeah, he's cute, I think, in a kind of doofe 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:24.280 looking the way, don't he doesn't look particularly murderous, but 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.400 he is. So these guys are able to snatch migratory 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:33.520 birds mid flight and just eat them like in the air. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.960 So this was first documented in Spain in twenty twenty three, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.240 when researchers recorded a noctual that grab a European robin. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.960 By the way, European Robin's one of my favorite birds. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.960 They're so cute. They're these adorable, little, round, fluffy guys. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.160 They're very friendly, very sweet sounding. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.040 So this is so sad. Why did you add that 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.880 that makes me more or upset to be? 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.920 Like, well, I just want to be I want to 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.760 be fair to all the participants in this, Like I 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.560 love bats and I think this is very cool, but 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.000 I also really feel very bad for this poor robin. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.080 I feel bad for the robins. Yeah, they're migrating. It's 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.120 if you were on a road trip and somebody ate 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.880 you while you were in your car. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.240 Yeah, that's it pretty much just grabbed you and ate 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:30.040 you like an impanada. Yeah. So they the the way 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:35.400 they recorded the feeding was by attaching a little backpack 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:40.720 onto a bat. And this backpack recorded sounds like it's 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.920 it's to keep things small. It just had audio capabilities. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.640 They didn't weren't. Like, they didn't put like a GoPro 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.880 on a bat because then the bat when you're able 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:58.040 to fly. Yeah, so it's a recording of it echo locating, uh, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.040 finding the bird. You can hear the They identified the 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.800 species of bird by the sounds of its panicked peeping, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.199 which is very sad. I played with the idea of 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:15.240 playing the audio on the show. No, I decided not to. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.080 I mean I will in the show notes. I'll include 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.280 a link to the article where if you would like 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.720 to listen to it, you can listen to it. It's like, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.280 I think it's kind of it's like weirdly distressing because 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.760 this is like animals, right, and we're all used to 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.920 Animal Planet and animals eating each other. But somehow, when 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.119 it's in an audio only format, it makes it really 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:39.360 creepy because you. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:40.560 So much more sinister. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.159 It really is, because you hear the echo locating, you 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.280 hear like the chirping of the bird, and then this 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.280 like crunch and then silence, no, and then like the 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:57.040 sound of the back crunching on bone. I decided not 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.840 to not to play the sound. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.160 Uh good, but. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.960 Yeah, but if you're interested the there's a Scientific American 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.639 article you can read I'll include in the show notes, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.800 uh called this bat recorded itself catching and eating a 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.639 songbird in mid air and it's exactly what it sounds like. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:23.720 Uh yeah, so yeah, they they they found the new 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:30.480 new spooky bat stuff happening. The researchers were super excited 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.520 about it, uh, which is just like, yeah, this is 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.000 this is beautiful and wonderful and it's just them having 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:43.000 recorded like audio of a bat crunch showing down on 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:44.720 a bird. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:45.960 I'm proud of you guys. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.080 Yeah, good job researchers. Another interesting thing, so like kind 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.359 of uh, we're a little batman themed here because this 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:57.120 is bats versus penguines. Oh you know, like so we 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.679 so yeah in real life, like if it was a batman, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.560 like a man with the sort of instincts of a bat, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.720 it would be eaten Robin, but it would also be 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.919 going after the penguin. It would it would not be 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.400 a great situation for Gotham. I'm going to say that. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.600 So yeah, because like in real life, bats are the 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.159 enemies of penguins, which sounds strange because bats do not 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:30.520 like cold weather, and we associate penguins with cold weather. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.679 But in southern Peru there is this very limited region 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.959 where there are actually penguins that live there and bats 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.320 because it's tropical enough for the bats, and there are 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.440 species of penguins that actually live in more tropical environments 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:51.560 who don't live in the freezing cold of the Antarctic. So, Kimmia, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.080 actually I did not mean to do this, but the 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.560 last time I had you on, I think it was 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.240 it was on a on a Poop episode. I talked 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.840 about these penguins and when I was like, I was 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.720 sort of looking at my old research unintentionally, this is 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.320 the exact thing I talked to you about, like the 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.439 last time you're on. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.639 Well, are these the ones that shoot the poop? 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.160 Yes, these are the penguins that shoot the poop? IM 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.840 but I gotta I gotta mention them because it's a 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:28.199 it's these vampire bats. Who are these a menace to 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:32.560 these poor little penguins. They're very cute penguins. I think 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.719 the bats are cute too. I don't know who decide 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.920 with because I base all of my moral decisions on cuteness. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:44.080 But anyways, the the they usually don't cause to many problems. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:49.600 They usually feed on larger, larger mammals, but they they 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.520 sometimes will go and pick on the umble penguin chicks, 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.239 who are more defenseless than the adults. And it's a 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.480 problem because the the chicks don't have a lot of 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:06.280 defenses and it can actually can weaken them. So it's 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.040 like they don't usually outright drain them of all their 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.600 blood and kill them. That's not that's not typically what happens. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.840 But if it's a vulnerable chick, so if they're drinking 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.399 its blood and potentially passing disease, that we're leaving it 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.080 without a lot of its blood that it needs, it 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.400 can be deadly or certainly weaken them and harm them. 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.920 So in order to protect their chicks, the adults will 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:36.879 launch a full scale assaults on the bats. They start 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.480 with screaming at them. If that doesn't work, they kick 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.960 dirt at them, and if that doesn't work, they have 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.639 their secret weapon, which is shooting their poop. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.399 Wow, that's good, and you know what, I'm cool that 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.520 now that I've heard a lot about the spot. He 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.359 freaking deserves it stinks. 0:21:55.760 --> 0:22:00.320 He's yeah, he's he's biting babies. That's that's not great. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.840 But yeah, Humboldt penguins are so well known for their 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.800 poop shooting techniques. There was a paper that won the 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.000 Ignoble Prize in Fluid Dynamics in two thousand and five 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.520 that studied the pressures and forces required for the penguins 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.080 to project al shoot their poop. The study is called 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:29.640 Pressures produced when Penguins pooh Calculations on Avian defication. So yeah, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:30.280 I mean it's. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.200 Almost funnier when you use all of the official terms 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.920 right in the title of that Adian defecations. 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:41.240 Yeah, uh, it's it's it's was a very good paper. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.720 The Ignoble Prize is not necessarily for bad research, it's 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.480 for good research. That's really funny. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.720 Also, that's exactly what that is. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.399 Yeah, So in real life, you would like Batman would 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:02.360 fight the penguin, but it would get really bad, really gross, 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.400 really bad. Like I feel like the penguin in the 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:10.119 movies is just depicted as being pretty gross. Uh, like, 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.119 especially Danny DeVito's one, Like they did a Dandy the 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.840 Danny DeVito version. I forgot which Batman that was in? 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.640 Uh is Forever? 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.679 No Batman? Maybe? Was that? Which one Batman Forever? 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:23.840 Was? 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.800 The nipples one? With George Clooney where they had the 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:35.280 outfits with the nipples baked in Batman Forever, right am 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:36.480 I Am I wrong about that? 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:37.800 Yeah? 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.680 No, no, I think I am right. I think that's 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.520 the George Clooney version. No, wait, is that I got 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.879 I gotta get this right, Yeah, we need it Batman Forever. 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.920 No that No, that had Val Kilmer in it. Okay, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.400 so yeah, I don't know, but yeah, that had Val 0:23:55.520 --> 0:24:03.440 Kilmer in it. It had The Riddler as Jim Carroll. Yeah, 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:08.840 there's been so many, there's been too many Batman's Batman 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:15.320 with Danny de vit Vito as the Penguin. That was 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:25.360 Batman Returns, Returns by Tim Burton. They really yes, right yeah? 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:29.160 And this yeah, it had Michael Keaton as Batman again 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:35.240 he came back. They really did a number on Danny DeVito. 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:40.959 They made his mouth black for some reason. Yeah, they 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.000 made him look gross, but I don't think they had 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.880 him shoot poop, so which is like. 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.400 A missed opportunity, you know, they're gross, like just kind of. 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:55.639 Yeah, like commit to it because he has little penguin friends. 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.200 I think in the movie. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.560 Oh if he doesn't actually do the but all of 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.880 his minions and henchmen are run out of the woodwork 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:05.240 to come shoot poop at Batman. 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:05.800 Exactly. 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:06.439 It's just pretty. 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.919 It should be the penguin sort of sitting the bird 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.840 style on an awning and then like when Batman comes, 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:16.719 they like turn around and then start trying to snipe 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.359 at them with like with poop missiles, deadly poop. 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.399 That's really good. 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.159 This is why they need to consult biologists for Batman. 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.120 I agree. I agree. These movies would be so much 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.360 funnier and more accurate. 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.399 And more accurate. Accuracy is always funnier. We're going to 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.600 take a quick break and when we get back, we're 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.080 going to talk about a couple of other bats who 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:50.760 have unusual dietary requirement. So these bats are I think 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:56.919 really cool. Like these are bats who do not do 0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.960 the normal bat thing of either eating insects, birds, fruit, nectar, 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:08.399 or blood. They have one particular thing they like to 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:13.880 eat and that's fish. These are fish eating bats. There 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.840