1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: and today on the show, we are talking about murderous 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: bats and the bats who love them, from scary draculas 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: who have a soft side, to beats who are the 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: scourge of the water. These bats have unusual victims. Joining 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: me today to discuss some spooky spunky bats is actor comedians. 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: She's been in shows like Abby's Hacks, Abbott, Elementary Lucifer 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: and After Midnight It's Kimmy of a Portia. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Welcome. Wow. When you said bats, you left out the 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: murderous part. Uh. When you teed up what we be 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: chatting about, and. 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: We're talking about we're talking about bad boy bats, like 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: these are the bad boys of the bat world. There's many, 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: many species of bats, hundreds of species of bats, and 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them are real cute where they just 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of like sip nectar, eat fruit, eat bugs. These 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: guys are a little more hardcore. I thought it's sort 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: of Halloween speed speas and it's spooky speason. Uh. And 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: so we got to talk about some spooky bats who 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: actually are while not dangerous to people, they are they 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: are dangerous to some animals and perhaps fit the spooky 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: theme a little more than like say, an adorable fruit bat. 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: That's fair, But I feel like you tell me, because 25 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: you'll know, what is the bat that we're like hanging 26 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: all over our homes on these decorations, the like plainest looking. 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Bat, you mean, like the like you know. 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: The classic Halloween decor Halloween decorvette. 29 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: You know, I actually do have an answer to that, 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: which and this is very opinion based because, like you know, 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: I would say that the Halloween de coor bat probably 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: does vary a bit. But the one that to me 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: looks like the most sort of like this bat is 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: going to turn into a Dracula at any moment, is 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the spectral bat? Actually have an image of that for 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: you look at it? Yeah, it is like it's got 37 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: just kind of the classic bat features. It's it's relatively large, actually, 38 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: it's it's got a wingspan of about three feet. 39 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 40 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's like I would say, it is large, 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: large mouse, small rat sized in its body. Uh, And 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: it has just the classic bat presentation where it's got fangs, 43 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: it's got the snubnose. It's got kind of an elongated face. 44 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I would say that this one, like when I like, 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: let me see if I just like google Halloween decoration bat. 46 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of them are a lot of 47 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: them are just black outlines. So that's there's that, right, 48 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, when I look at like sort of the 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: more realistic ones. Actually a lot some of the like 50 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: realistic ones, Like they go for really big ones, so 51 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: then they model them after fruit bats, who actually are 52 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: quite large. But yeah, they're fruit bats. There. They don't 53 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: they don't drink blood, they don't eat eat. But yeah, 54 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I would say that this one, the spectral bat, is 55 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: the sort of to me, one of the more classic 56 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: spooky looking bats. 57 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe you. I'm looking at it. That 58 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: looks like that looks like all the haunted house hanging guys. 59 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: It's black, you know I think of bats, you think 60 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: like pitch black. Like the wings. I mean, his body's 61 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: like a little bit brown and fuzzy. But yeah, that's it. 62 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: That's the guy. 63 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: That's the guy. That's the one. They're also known as 64 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: false vampire bats because a lot of people kind of 65 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: have the misapprehension that because they have those long teeth 66 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: that they are vampire bats. I mean, this looks like 67 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: this looks sort of like a classic vampire but something 68 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: that you would expect to like fly up to you, 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: like bite your neck or something, they don't do that. 70 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: They don't do that. Vampire bats tend to be much smaller. 71 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: They usually have pretty snubby faces. Actually, there's only I 72 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: think about three species of true vampire bats who drink blood. 73 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: So actually, when you're looking at the hundreds of species 74 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: of bats, very few of them actually drink blood. This 75 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: one does not drink blood. This one's actually found in Mexico, 76 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: South and Central America, which actually that is the region 77 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: where vampire bats do tend to be. But yeah, this one, 78 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: despite having those really long things that look like you know, 79 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: it would be using that for sip in blood carry. Yeah, 80 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: they do not feed on blood. But in my opinion, 81 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: they're actually more menacing than vampire bats because vampire bats, 82 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: despite sort of their you know, spooky name, they they 83 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: do drink blood, but they're more like parasites than they 84 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: are predators. We will talk later in the show about 85 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a case in which they are they are actually a 86 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: threat to the animals that they prey on. But usually 87 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like they will nip at the ankles of some livestock, 88 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of lap at the blood a little bit, and 89 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: unless they intentionally spread some disease, they're not really harming, uh, 90 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: their their host. It's more like it they're more like 91 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: fluffy mosquitoes. 92 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna say mosquito. That's exactly what it sounds 93 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: like to me. Keeping at the ankles. 94 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Come on, I know, that's yeah, that's it's like the 95 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: most annoying place to get the mosquito bite and also 96 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: one of the more because that's your ankles are often 97 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the thing that's uncovered, right you're wearing maybe you're wearing jeans, 98 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: kulottes just in case you got to wade through some 99 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: water and you're wearing sanday, yeah, and then you get 100 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: you get the bites right on the like right on 101 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the ankle bone is the worst, and they seem to 102 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: love it. So I hate that so much. Uh, it's 103 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: just because in it there's not a lot of meat 104 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: to itch down there. It's yeah, no, it's it's very bad. 105 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: So yeah, these are these are they're more vampire bats 106 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: and more like pests. They're menaces. They're not really that 107 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: scary in terms of like they don't drain blood, humans 108 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: certainly don't have much to worry about from them, Like 109 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: occasionally there will be there's only one species of vampire 110 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: bat that frequently encounters humans and might sometimes drink human blood. 111 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: But again, like they're not draining blood. They usually only 112 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: do it to people who work on farms with livestock. 113 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: So so, yeah, vampire bats not that scary. But these guys, 114 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: these spectral bats, I would say they kind of fit 115 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: the villainous bat description a little more because even though 116 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: they don't drink blood, they are carnivores and they're not 117 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: just insectivores. Like there are a lot of species of 118 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: bats who eat insects. It's great, they eat up mosquitoes, 119 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: so like they are actually yeah, like we're we're on 120 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: team bats when it comes to mosquitoes. So they're they're great, right, 121 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: But no, these guys actually are very fierce hunters. They're carnivores, 122 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: and while they do eat insects, sometimes they will eat 123 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: birds and other bats and rodents as well. Like they're 124 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: big enough that they can actually snatch sizeable small mammals 125 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: and eat them. 126 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh, they're eating other bats eating other bats. 127 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: It's bats. Uh, it's bats. The bats. It's very sad 128 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: to see. So they stalk their prey. Actually, in terms 129 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: of eating other bats, they'll sometimes eat vampire bats because 130 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: vampire bats are pretty yeah, they're pretty small, so they 131 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: can they can grab them and they'll silently like hover 132 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: above their victims. They use echolocation to find them, uh, 133 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: and then they swoop down grab them with their claws, 134 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: and then those you know those teeth that have those 135 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: like big fangs that make them look like a little draculas, 136 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: they use those more like a jaguar than they Then, 137 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: like a vampire, they bite down on the skull of 138 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: their prey to kill them. Oh, and then fly their 139 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: lifeless bodies back to their roost where they feed on 140 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: all the edible parts and just dump the inedible parts 141 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: like feathers, tails, bones down in a big pile beneath them. So, yeah, 142 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: these are these are the real deal. These are the 143 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: These are the most halloweeny bats I think out there. 144 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Dang, they're dumping these bones like they've got a crypt 145 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: down there. Yeah, the little catacombs. Yeah, of they're dead 146 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: prey freaky guys. 147 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got a big big bone pile under them, 148 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: and they're social, so they roost with other spectral bats 149 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: and so they having a bone bone party, bone party. Yeah. Actually, 150 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: so like, yeah, when you're ranking bats in terms of 151 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: sort of bad boy scary monster behavior, I think that 152 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: these ones rank pretty high. But still it's kind of 153 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: funny is when it comes to their own species, they're 154 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: really really sweet. So when they're not out murdering, they're 155 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: actually really nice. Wow. They greet their friends with like 156 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: this little hug, so they kind of like wrap their 157 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: wings around each other. Uh, it's very cute. 158 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: I like them now. Yeah all you need, all I 159 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: need out of animals is that they like hugs, and 160 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: I'm in. 161 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. They cuddle their families in sort of like a 162 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: big sort of hug ball. They all like snuggle together. 163 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Males will bring food to their female partners when she's nursing, 164 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: so she can't really hunt while she's nursing, so her 165 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: male partner will bring her food, you know, like a 166 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: murder victim of course. But yeah. Still. Parents will also 167 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: bring prey to their pups once their pups are big 168 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: enough to start eating solid food. Uh. And yeah, they 169 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: they just kind of exhibit very like fun, spunky behavior. 170 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: They like to play with each other. They'll chase bugs 171 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: around like they they don't even like they'll chase cockroaches 172 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: and stuff and bugs that are in their roost, and 173 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: then they don't even necessarily kill them. They'll like catch 174 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: up to them and be like, all right, keep running 175 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: because like this is fun for me. They're like little 176 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: They're basically like little flying house cats. 177 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: I guess, so that's kind of cute. I wish they'd 178 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: get those cockroaches though. Yeah, those guys they were killings 179 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: a mosquitoes, they'd be my heroes. 180 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think they probably kill cockroaches pretty frequently. 181 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they're eating mosquitoes 182 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: that might be a little too small for them. But yeah, 183 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: cockroaches I think would be something that they would would 184 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: kill and eat. But yeah, it's just it's like they're 185 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: they have kind of the same demeanor as like house cats. 186 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they're even a little more social than housecats. But yeah, 187 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: like they go out, they murder, and then they come 188 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: home and they cuddle. 189 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: So far, I like this murderer. This murderer is not. 190 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: So bad, right, It's like it's like Jason Voorhees after 191 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: like a long day of murdering camp counselors, like just 192 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: comes home as his wife and his kid. They're all 193 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: like wearing the little hockey masks. Uh yeah, just uh 194 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, haven't. 195 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: An they chase their neighbor around. Yeah exactly. 196 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a quick break and then we're 197 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: going to talk about a couple of diminiscing bats. Uh include, 198 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: And these ones have a very interesting sort of like 199 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: the dark Knight theme, except this is the darkest night. Uh, 200 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Batman's getting naughty with it will be your back, so 201 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: you know Batman Robin there? Uh what I mean what 202 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: like Robin's ward. I've never quite understood the legality of that. 203 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just quite literally just it's plainly and he's 204 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: just the sidekick, right, Yeah, he's like tags along, he's 205 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: like an intern. 206 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: He's an intern. Well, in the wild, bats and Robin's 207 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: don't necessarily get along. In fact, there has been a 208 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: recent exciting scientific discovery which is that a bout was 209 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: observed eating a robin. Oh and we as we just discussed, 210 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: bats do eat birds, so that's not necessarily like with 211 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: a spectral bat, that's it's not necessarily news, but usually 212 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: it's by snatching them from nests or while they're roosting, 213 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: so kind of like when they're just hanging out. But 214 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: there have been new observations that show some bats have 215 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: mastered and even more impressive bird snatching method of grabbing 216 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: migratory birds right out of the air while they are 217 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: migrating and then eating them mid air. So yeah, no, yeah, yeah, 218 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: like little like that, like little fluffy drones, murder drones, 219 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: but fluffy. So this guy, this guy is called the 220 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: Greater Noctual bat. Actually he's pretty cute. He's kind of 221 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: a goofball. Like the one we just talked about. The 222 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: spectral bats kind of look like your classic spooky HALLOWEENI bat. 223 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: This one looks like a funny little guy. He's the 224 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: largest bat in Europe. He's got a wingspan of one 225 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: and a half feet, as fluff brown fur and rounded 226 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: ears and kind of a goofy face. I did share 227 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: an image of them with you. 228 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: He just kind of you know, yeah, I am looking 229 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: at it. It looks like a squish faced dog. Yeah. 230 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's cute, I think, in a kind of doofe 231 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: looking the way, don't he doesn't look particularly murderous, but 232 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: he is. So these guys are able to snatch migratory 233 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: birds mid flight and just eat them like in the air. 234 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: So this was first documented in Spain in twenty twenty three, 235 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: when researchers recorded a noctual that grab a European robin. 236 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: By the way, European Robin's one of my favorite birds. 237 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: They're so cute. They're these adorable, little, round, fluffy guys. 238 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: They're very friendly, very sweet sounding. 239 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: So this is so sad. Why did you add that 240 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: that makes me more or upset to be? 241 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Like, well, I just want to be I want to 242 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: be fair to all the participants in this, Like I 243 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: love bats and I think this is very cool, but 244 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I also really feel very bad for this poor robin. 245 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: I feel bad for the robins. Yeah, they're migrating. It's 246 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: if you were on a road trip and somebody ate 247 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: you while you were in your car. 248 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it pretty much just grabbed you and ate 249 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: you like an impanada. Yeah. So they the the way 250 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: they recorded the feeding was by attaching a little backpack 251 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: onto a bat. And this backpack recorded sounds like it's 252 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: it's to keep things small. It just had audio capabilities. 253 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: They didn't weren't. Like, they didn't put like a GoPro 254 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: on a bat because then the bat when you're able 255 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: to fly. Yeah, so it's a recording of it echo locating, uh, 256 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: finding the bird. You can hear the They identified the 257 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: species of bird by the sounds of its panicked peeping, 258 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: which is very sad. I played with the idea of 259 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: playing the audio on the show. No, I decided not to. 260 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean I will in the show notes. I'll include 261 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: a link to the article where if you would like 262 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: to listen to it, you can listen to it. It's like, 263 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of it's like weirdly distressing because 264 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: this is like animals, right, and we're all used to 265 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: Animal Planet and animals eating each other. But somehow, when 266 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: it's in an audio only format, it makes it really 267 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: creepy because you. 268 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: So much more sinister. 269 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: It really is, because you hear the echo locating, you 270 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: hear like the chirping of the bird, and then this 271 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: like crunch and then silence, no, and then like the 272 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: sound of the back crunching on bone. I decided not 273 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: to not to play the sound. 274 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: Uh good, but. 275 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're interested the there's a Scientific American 276 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: article you can read I'll include in the show notes, 277 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: uh called this bat recorded itself catching and eating a 278 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: songbird in mid air and it's exactly what it sounds like. 279 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so yeah, they they they found the new 280 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: new spooky bat stuff happening. The researchers were super excited 281 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: about it, uh, which is just like, yeah, this is 282 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: this is beautiful and wonderful and it's just them having 283 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: recorded like audio of a bat crunch showing down on 284 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: a bird. 285 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you guys. 286 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, good job researchers. Another interesting thing, so like kind 287 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: of uh, we're a little batman themed here because this 288 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: is bats versus penguines. Oh you know, like so we 289 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: so yeah in real life, like if it was a batman, 290 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: like a man with the sort of instincts of a bat, 291 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: it would be eaten Robin, but it would also be 292 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: going after the penguin. It would it would not be 293 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: a great situation for Gotham. I'm going to say that. 294 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, because like in real life, bats are the 295 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: enemies of penguins, which sounds strange because bats do not 296 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: like cold weather, and we associate penguins with cold weather. 297 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: But in southern Peru there is this very limited region 298 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: where there are actually penguins that live there and bats 299 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: because it's tropical enough for the bats, and there are 300 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: species of penguins that actually live in more tropical environments 301 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: who don't live in the freezing cold of the Antarctic. So, Kimmia, 302 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: actually I did not mean to do this, but the 303 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: last time I had you on, I think it was 304 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: it was on a on a Poop episode. I talked 305 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: about these penguins and when I was like, I was 306 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: sort of looking at my old research unintentionally, this is 307 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the exact thing I talked to you about, like the 308 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: last time you're on. 309 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: Well, are these the ones that shoot the poop? 310 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: Yes, these are the penguins that shoot the poop? IM 311 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta mention them because it's a 312 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: it's these vampire bats. Who are these a menace to 313 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: these poor little penguins. They're very cute penguins. I think 314 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: the bats are cute too. I don't know who decide 315 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: with because I base all of my moral decisions on cuteness. 316 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: But anyways, the the they usually don't cause to many problems. 317 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: They usually feed on larger, larger mammals, but they they 318 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: sometimes will go and pick on the umble penguin chicks, 319 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: who are more defenseless than the adults. And it's a 320 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: problem because the the chicks don't have a lot of 321 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: defenses and it can actually can weaken them. So it's 322 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: like they don't usually outright drain them of all their 323 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: blood and kill them. That's not that's not typically what happens. 324 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: But if it's a vulnerable chick, so if they're drinking 325 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: its blood and potentially passing disease, that we're leaving it 326 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: without a lot of its blood that it needs, it 327 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: can be deadly or certainly weaken them and harm them. 328 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: So in order to protect their chicks, the adults will 329 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: launch a full scale assaults on the bats. They start 330 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: with screaming at them. If that doesn't work, they kick 331 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: dirt at them, and if that doesn't work, they have 332 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: their secret weapon, which is shooting their poop. 333 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: Wow, that's good, and you know what, I'm cool that 334 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: now that I've heard a lot about the spot. He 335 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: freaking deserves it stinks. 336 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's he's biting babies. That's that's not great. 337 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, Humboldt penguins are so well known for their 338 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: poop shooting techniques. There was a paper that won the 339 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Ignoble Prize in Fluid Dynamics in two thousand and five 340 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: that studied the pressures and forces required for the penguins 341 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: to project al shoot their poop. The study is called 342 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: Pressures produced when Penguins pooh Calculations on Avian defication. So yeah, 343 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's. 344 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: Almost funnier when you use all of the official terms 345 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: right in the title of that Adian defecations. 346 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, it's it's it's was a very good paper. 347 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: The Ignoble Prize is not necessarily for bad research, it's 348 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: for good research. That's really funny. 349 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: Also, that's exactly what that is. 350 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, So in real life, you would like Batman would 351 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: fight the penguin, but it would get really bad, really gross, 352 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: really bad. Like I feel like the penguin in the 353 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: movies is just depicted as being pretty gross. Uh, like, 354 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: especially Danny DeVito's one, Like they did a Dandy the 355 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Danny DeVito version. I forgot which Batman that was in? 356 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: Uh is Forever? 357 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: No Batman? Maybe? Was that? Which one Batman Forever? 358 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: Was? 359 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: The nipples one? With George Clooney where they had the 360 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: outfits with the nipples baked in Batman Forever, right am 361 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: I Am I wrong about that? 362 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 363 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: No, no, I think I am right. I think that's 364 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: the George Clooney version. No, wait, is that I got 365 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: I gotta get this right, Yeah, we need it Batman Forever. 366 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: No that No, that had Val Kilmer in it. Okay, 367 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know, but yeah, that had Val 368 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Kilmer in it. It had The Riddler as Jim Carroll. Yeah, 369 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: there's been so many, there's been too many Batman's Batman 370 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: with Danny de vit Vito as the Penguin. That was 371 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: Batman Returns, Returns by Tim Burton. They really yes, right yeah? 372 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: And this yeah, it had Michael Keaton as Batman again 373 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: he came back. They really did a number on Danny DeVito. 374 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: They made his mouth black for some reason. Yeah, they 375 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: made him look gross, but I don't think they had 376 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: him shoot poop, so which is like. 377 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: A missed opportunity, you know, they're gross, like just kind of. 378 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, like commit to it because he has little penguin friends. 379 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: I think in the movie. 380 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: Oh if he doesn't actually do the but all of 381 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: his minions and henchmen are run out of the woodwork 382 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: to come shoot poop at Batman. 383 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: Exactly. 384 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: It's just pretty. 385 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: It should be the penguin sort of sitting the bird 386 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: style on an awning and then like when Batman comes, 387 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: they like turn around and then start trying to snipe 388 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: at them with like with poop missiles, deadly poop. 389 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: That's really good. 390 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: This is why they need to consult biologists for Batman. 391 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. These movies would be so much 392 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 2: funnier and more accurate. 393 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: And more accurate. Accuracy is always funnier. We're going to 394 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we get back, we're 395 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: going to talk about a couple of other bats who 396 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: have unusual dietary requirement. So these bats are I think 397 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: really cool. Like these are bats who do not do 398 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: the normal bat thing of either eating insects, birds, fruit, nectar, 399 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: or blood. They have one particular thing they like to 400 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: eat and that's fish. These are fish eating bats. There 401 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: are bats who specialize in fishing. There are two species 402 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: that do this. There's the greater bulldog bat found in 403 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Latin America and the fish eating miotis found in the 404 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: Gulf of California. I feel like in terms of names, 405 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: the greater bulldog bat really won out, Like that's a 406 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: nice kind of name descriptive, whereas the fish eating miotis 407 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: is like kind of sounds like a disease. 408 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 2: It does, the myotis part is really giving a disease. Yeah, 409 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: you're so right, where it's just like or it's that 410 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: one's better because the greater bulldog bat plasier yeah, after 411 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: a different animal. 412 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Usually when it's when it's like a greater or a lesser, 413 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: it means, uh, it is slightly larger or slightly smaller 414 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: than some other relative species. But it does sound very judgmental, 415 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: like the greater bulldog bat, like there's a there's a 416 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of crappy bulldog bat out there that you you 417 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to deal with. But 418 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: because this, yeah, exactly. 419 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: It's just like a stupid bed that just sits on 420 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: the dock. 421 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the sucky bulldog bat that nobody likes. But yeah, 422 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: like its name implies, the greater bulldog bat has a droopy, 423 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: jowly face. It also has orange fur and these very 424 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: weird rake like feet. I have shared with you some 425 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: photosipless guy. His face is really very bulldog esque. Yes, 426 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: got the jowls, but he's also got this bright orange fur. 427 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: He's it's a very silly looking bat. 428 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: These nails look a little bit like what some people 429 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: would bring in to the salon. Yeah, I'd like this please. 430 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, these are they they are definitely what are 431 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: those like acrylics or the way you get the like 432 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: long the long sort of rake like. 433 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: Things, somel. 434 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are fashion and function, Yes they are. 435 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: So. 436 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: They use echolocation to detect ripples on the surface of 437 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: bodies of water. These are going to be streams, rivers, ponds, 438 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: and lagoons. The ripples indicate the presence of fish, and 439 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: so the bulldog bats swoop down. They use their clawed 440 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: rake like feet to catch the fish and then shoves 441 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the fish into their mouths. And the reason they have 442 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: these jowls is that they need space for the fish. 443 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: So they're kind of like pelicans in that way. It's 444 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: very fun that like when they actually have their mouths 445 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: full of fish, they look very weird. I have shared 446 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: that with you as well. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 447 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: it's h it's there's a few ways you might describe this. 448 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: The better way I'm gonna say, is like a juicy butt. 449 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Like a juicy butt is one way. For sure, it's 450 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of cute because it like, it looks very pleased 451 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: with itself, because its little lips are sort of stretched 452 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: into a smile, and then underneath it are these two 453 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: sort of bulbous cheeks. Ye bowl with fish. It's sort 454 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: of like the way that a hamster shoves things in 455 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: its mouth, but it's sort of below the chin. So 456 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe a little scrotle one might say, 457 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: But is. 458 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: What I was trying to not say. 459 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeh, there we go, but you know, you kind of 460 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: have to. I mean, and it's that's it, plain as 461 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: day it is. But you know, so that's that's a 462 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: happy Greater Bulldog bat full of fish. Yeah there. I mean, 463 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: it's just kind of one of those things where there 464 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: there are so many species of bats, and our concept 465 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: of bat behavior is like, you know, I think most 466 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: people know about fruit bats, most people know about vampire 467 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: bats and insect eating bats, but there's a lot of 468 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: like variation in bat diets, like these guys. These guys fish, 469 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: and there are bats who only drink nectar and their 470 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: bodies are very specialized for these tasks. So there's this 471 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: completely unrelated species of bat who also fishes. Uh, this 472 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: one actually is a sea bat. This is scretch of 473 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: the sea. Its name is unfortunately not sea bat. It's 474 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: the fish eating miotis, which it. 475 00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: Makes it sea. 476 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's it's really too bad. But it's 477 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: a cute little brown bat with a white belly. Doesn't 478 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: really look too much like the bulldog bat. But it 479 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: shares the same rake like feet. Ah. So it feeds 480 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: on marine fish and crustaceans. Uh. It's so well adapted 481 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: for sea life that it has evolved to be able 482 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: to drink sea water and pee out the salt. So 483 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's drinking. It's drinking seawater and pissing out 484 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: the salt, which sounds like something like a hardened sailor 485 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: would like say. 486 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh, you're so right, right drinking the seawater and. 487 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Perfect. Yes. So yeah, these little guys they're very like 488 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: they're they're se like like the idea that there are 489 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: like sea bats bats who fish in in the in 490 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: the sea and roost on the coastline. They exist. Uh, 491 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: they also share their roosts with petrels. Petrels are a 492 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: species of sea bird. And really interestingly, like we've we've 493 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: talked on the show about bats, basically all these other 494 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: bats being the enemies of birds, like it's not a 495 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: good snatching them out of the air and chewing on 496 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: their bones. These ones, actually I'm ending on a little 497 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: bit more of a positive note because these have a 498 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: nice relationship with the with the petrels, So the bats 499 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: do not really bother the petrels at all. The bats fish, 500 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're fisher bats. Uh. And but 501 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: the petrels have learned to roost near the bats because 502 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: the bats are really aggressive towards these predatory lizards because 503 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: there are these lizards who will go after both the 504 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: bats young, but they also go after the petrels eggs 505 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: and their chicks. So the petrels don't really know how 506 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: to deal with the lizards. They they are a little 507 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: bit they just get a little spooked by them. But 508 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: the bats are really aggressive and they will like aggressively 509 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: go after lizards and start attacking them, beating their wings 510 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: at them. So the petrels, by nesting near the bats, 511 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: actually are thought to benefit from the bats protection. So 512 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: they so these these fish eating miotises are sort of 513 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: the more batman like of the bats in terms of. 514 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's right, they're fighting crimes exactly exactly. 515 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: They're fighting crime and not eating the baby birds, which 516 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: is nice of them. Yeah, but yeah, they so. They 517 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: They are pretty chill, pretty cool bats, unless you're fish, 518 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: in which case they will skim along the surface of 519 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: the water and they dunk their little rake like feet 520 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: in like fishing nets and catch them. Yeah, which is 521 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I think that's pretty cute. 522 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm impressed. I went fishing for the first time this year, 523 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: and I did it for maybe three minutes because I 524 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: hated it. But I it was not easy. 525 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of it's just sitting around 526 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: right like, you're not. 527 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 2: That part I liked. I didn't like putting the worm 528 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: on the hook. Ah yeah, or guy, yeah, it's just 529 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: squirming and I have to like impale it with a hook. 530 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah Nope, not for me. 531 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: I chickened out me too. I feel like if I 532 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: had rakes for feet, it'd be a lot easier, though, 533 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Oh totally yeaheah. 534 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: I'd be scoop and fish left and write out the water. 535 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: In your big bulldog jowls that are two sacks under 536 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: your chin that you can stuff fish into. Yeah, someone 537 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: should try it. Someone should like paraglide with rakes attached 538 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: to their feet and see how good you are at fishing. Like, 539 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, try that. That would be the real batman. 540 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: That is the real batman. 541 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: That's the real batman right there. So before we go, 542 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: we gotta play a little game. This is called I 543 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Guess you squawking the Mystery Animal sound game. Last week's 544 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: Mystery Animal sound The hint was this, it may sound 545 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: like a cat call, but I assure you this animal 546 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: wants nothing to do with cat, all right, kimya, I promise. 547 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to what this is. 548 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: There's no way, I promise to you it's not. It's 549 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:12,479 Speaker 1: not a construction worker harassing. Oh yeah, exactly. So this 550 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: is the screaming piha. It's a bird. It is a 551 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: relatively mundane looking bird that lives in the Amazon Lowlands. Uh. 552 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: It's actually member of the kotinga family, which includes some 553 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: of the most brightly colored, beautiful birds in the world. 554 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: This is not that kind of bird. It's very drab looking. 555 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Like if you look, I don't Yeah, if you look 556 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: at a picture of it. It's just like, yeah, great bird, 557 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: that's it. It's not it's not very exciting, but yeah, 558 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: makes up for it with its distinctive wolf whistle call 559 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: of going like I can't. I'm not gonna whistle against 560 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: this microphone. That's gonna be a horrible experience for everyone. 561 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: But yeah it does the loa like wee wo sound 562 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: wo woo. A little flirty, little frisky, little flirty. But yeah, 563 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely uh one of the there's a lot of 564 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: tropical birds, and so many of them are beautiful to 565 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: look at. This one's kind of a dud, but you know, hey, 566 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: it's got break. Makes up for it with charisma. 567 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a beautiful little voice right there. 568 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: Right, it's very it's very fun and flirty. All right, 569 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: Well onto this week's mister ann will sound. The hint 570 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: is this uh something is lurking in the cold waters 571 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: and it's adorable. Not that that's a that's an Italian ad. 572 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: Actually it's for that's an Italian ad for cream cheese. 573 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: Did you know that? Like they just called cream cheese 574 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: in Italy Philadelphia? 575 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh I did know that. Yeah, the brand. 576 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: They just call it Philadelphia. So if you're at a 577 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: restaurant I hate personally, I do not like cream cheese. 578 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: So I have learned that if anything is like it 579 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: says Philadelphia, it's like, well that's a boy, cream cheese 580 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: on it. Anyway, you're sound, that's funny. Here's the sound, 581 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: all right, can't mean any. 582 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: Just no way. I mean it sounds like we're in 583 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: a space ship. Yeah, like very like you're being sucked 584 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: up into a UFO. 585 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: It's Aliens. 586 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: It's Aliens. That's my guests. They're Aliens. 587 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Underwater underwater alien. Man. I wish there was I wish 588 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: there was that movie Underwater Aliens. Is there is there 589 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: underwater Aliens? 590 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what God not that I know, but 591 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: I think you're onto something. Movie. Make this very biologically 592 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 2: accurate movie. 593 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: Right, there's got to be an underwater Aliens movie. The 594 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: abyss is that uh by James Cameron? 595 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh he did that and Avatar. He's just like writing 596 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: about alien guys. 597 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: Aiend. He just wants any excuse he can get to 598 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: be in a submarine. This is what I figured. This 599 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: is what I've learned about James Cameron is that his 600 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: entire movie making career is just so he can get 601 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: into a submarine and he actually does it right, you know, 602 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: unlike the other unfortunately unfortunate rich guys who did that. 603 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Did that? Did that? I forget what was that submarine 604 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 1: that did not did not submerse properly Ocean Gate titan Uh, yeah, 605 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: that was nasty business. No, James Cameron actually does that, 606 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: except he knows what he's doing, so like he lives 607 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: through it. So he's gone into a very deep sea submarines. 608 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: And yeah, because I like he's because so he he uh. 609 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: He obviously did the Titanic and Avatar and did all 610 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: this like technological what's it? But I think the Abyss 611 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: I have not seen it, but apparently, with a quick 612 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: look at the old Wikipedia, seems to be about a 613 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: submarine that finds aliens underwater. So that's neat. 614 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta check up the Aboo right. 615 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: The fact it's by James Cameron and yet I've never 616 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: heard of it does make me think that maybe it's 617 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: not good. 618 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: It's bad. 619 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: That is probably a bad a bad movie. Hey, you 620 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: know what, like it's Halloween times. Maybe check it out? 621 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: Uh, check out the abass are We? Bookie season recommendation for. 622 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: Today the abase without ever having seen it or being 623 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: able to attest to its quality. Go watch the OBSS 624 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: and it's always sent you through the perspective of James 625 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: Cameron just really really likes to be in submarines. Well, Kimmia, 626 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. Where can 627 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: the people find you? 628 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram at child Clown. Thanks 629 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: for having me. I love doing this show because I 630 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 2: learned so many silly things. 631 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: It's just like I feel bad that I like made 632 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: you listen to the poop stuff twice. 633 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: And No, it was kind of fun because I knew 634 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: where we were going, and then I got to kind 635 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: of me the expert, as I said one thing, being like, oh, 636 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,959 Speaker 2: these are the guys that you poop. 637 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 638 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 2: I was like, suddenly I'm a biologist. 639 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: You're suddenly biologist. Jane goodall over here, guys, thank you 640 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: so much for listening. If you think you know who 641 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: made the mis or animal sound, or you have any questions, 642 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: you can write to me at Creature feature Pod at 643 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Thanks to the space Cossics for their 644 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: super awesome song Exolumina. Creature features a production of iHeartRadio. 645 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: For more podcasts like the one you just listened to 646 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: is the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or hey, guess what 647 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm not sure, mother, 648 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: I can't judge you, I can't tell you what to view. 649 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: But if you are in a horror movie and you 650 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: have like a bat theme villain, it's more likely to 651 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: grab you with giant rake than to bite your neck, 652 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: So watch out for that. Mm hmm. Rakes are spooky. 653 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm calling it. Rakes are the spookiest, spookiest thing. Uh 654 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: see you next Wednesday. 655 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: M