Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
Speaker 1: a sibling railvalry.
Speaker 3: No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 4: Revelry.
Speaker 5: That's good, ladies and gentlemen. This is part two of
Speaker 5: sibling rivalry.
Speaker 1: Fine, I guess, okay, sibling comedy.
Speaker 6: You're doing a comedy.
Speaker 1: How much did you actually dive into sort of the
Speaker 1: emotional aspects of what the show was in the relationships,
Speaker 1: you know, because did you talk about that? Did you
Speaker 1: have to track that at all? Or was just pure funny?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: Was there was there moments where you have to talk
Speaker 1: about this is what I feel like, there's deeper shit.
Speaker 6: Well maybe not coming out on them.
Speaker 3: I mean, let me give you an example of I
Speaker 3: think that it wasn't necessarily talked about as much as
Speaker 3: it was what was happening.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say how I feel about it.
Speaker 3: Like when we started, we immediately went deep into the
Speaker 3: things in our life personally together, whether it be you know,
Speaker 3: over our dinners or having drinks like we would go there,
Speaker 3: whether it be because relationships, family stuff, Like there was
Speaker 3: always sort of a balance of fun and like the
Speaker 3: real things that were going on in our in our
Speaker 3: lives or have gone on our lives on set, the
Speaker 3: moments that were important to us was like everything could
Speaker 3: be funny, but the things that we were trying to
Speaker 3: figure to discover with each other were the beats that
Speaker 3: I think are the most important things, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: the connective tissue. Yes, who really are we together? What
Speaker 3: is the overall you know, what are we trying?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What what are we really trying to achieve? And for
Speaker 3: all of us, it's like being validated by the other person.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know for me it was like I
Speaker 3: just wanted them to love me and to see that
Speaker 3: I could do.
Speaker 5: Your Yeah, it was like eight years before they figured
Speaker 5: out his hook and his finally was he just wanted
Speaker 5: to hug Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just like right. But we had this moment.
Speaker 3: We had this moment after the pool scene, which for
Speaker 3: people who haven't seen it, don't want to ruin it,
Speaker 3: but we're we're sitting at the bar and we're shooting
Speaker 3: this scene and it's this really sweet scene and it's
Speaker 3: sort of like, you know, I have a line that said,
Speaker 3: Dad really did a number on us, didn't he. But
Speaker 3: in that moment between the takes not to put anybody
Speaker 3: in any like, you know, we had a moment where
Speaker 3: we talked about family, our own families growing up, and
Speaker 3: I started to cry, and then Scotti started. We all
Speaker 3: just basically started to cry. But in the scene you're
Speaker 3: crying right right. But next thing you know, we had
Speaker 3: this thing, at least for me, which was a very profound,
Speaker 3: deep connection of we've all had a certain level of
Speaker 3: trauma that you would never think we would tap into
Speaker 3: in the show.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: You know what that does though, if it's not on screen,
Speaker 1: It allows you to be safe that's right on the
Speaker 1: screen and saying and doing whatever I feel because you've
Speaker 1: had an experience off.
Speaker 3: And energetically you can feel it because there's a closeness
Speaker 3: Yeah and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to step that out.
Speaker 5: I kind of wish it was more like that in
Speaker 5: our day to day lives with everybody, which is like, listen,
Speaker 5: I don't know what your experience is, you don't know
Speaker 5: what my experienperiences. I don't want to play the game
Speaker 5: of who's had it worse by any stretch. I personally
Speaker 5: feel like, I've probably had it really really great. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I've still had some shit that that fucks me up.
Speaker 5: And whether it fucks me up, I mean, my brother
Speaker 5: and I grew up in the same household, Like we're
Speaker 5: different human beings, right, the things that I you know,
Speaker 5: the moments I remember, I'm like, that was a really
Speaker 5: tricky night. He'd be like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Yeah, But then.
Speaker 5: The ship that he has, I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 5: remember that. So let's start with the baseline of like,
Speaker 5: you've just all gone through some shit and I'm going
Speaker 5: to cut you some slack until I realize you're consciously
Speaker 5: trying to hurt or offend me on a routine level,
Speaker 5: and then I'm gonna be like, hey man, we're not
Speaker 5: good and I'm out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a thing that we've experienced on this whole show,
Speaker 1: which is each sibling has a completely different perspective on
Speaker 1: how they were raised. Just like you said, writing like
Speaker 1: that fucked me up. I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I don't even know what you're saying.
Speaker 3: You know, I had a completely different perception manifested completely
Speaker 3: differently from me than it did for.
Speaker 6: All of them, Yeah, because we're not really here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all an illusion, yes, ye like it will
Speaker 7: say like, I think there was a there was a
Speaker 7: softness immediately despite us like doing you know, giving each
Speaker 7: other ship and stuff.
Speaker 8: I there was like a tenderness I mean to the
Speaker 8: to the characters too. They're trying to get whoever to
Speaker 8: take them seriously, whether it's you, us, me, the you know,
Speaker 8: entire family.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: And I think you know you're you kinda hold on
Speaker 8: to that. You're pushing that through the entire season, and
Speaker 8: then moments where the characters like they can't do it
Speaker 8: anymore and they just break down like or it's too hard.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna like I have to show some vulnerability with
Speaker 8: my family right here, and they're gonna, you know, like
Speaker 8: this particular family is like okay, like you know a little,
Speaker 8: whether they accept it or not. I think like the
Speaker 8: writing was so good that it was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 8: clearly like trying to hold onto it. Trying to hold
Speaker 8: onto it. You're basically just like not trying to cry
Speaker 8: the entire season. That's like you're just like I'm not
Speaker 8: gonna cry.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 8: Cry and then like your your character is done, like
Speaker 8: you can't he can't like hold it or she can't.
Speaker 6: Hold it anymore.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I saw Scotty get welling up and
Speaker 1: inappropriate situations and the show flagged on that, did you
Speaker 1: actually we're coming to because I'm not making a joke.
Speaker 1: Like there's moments where I'm looking because it's like a
Speaker 1: three of you or something, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Scotty is sort of in the background.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this.
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: It's awesome to watch the emotion, but I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is going on for me?
Speaker 3: My biggest my biggest laugh in the show is in
Speaker 3: the conference room with the cocoa line.
Speaker 5: It's just they flew that line and that you know,
Speaker 5: they flew that in like take five. But I think
Speaker 5: it's partly there were some takes of that where the
Speaker 5: crying was too real. There was something that Fabrizzeo said, Jackie,
Speaker 5: and I mean talk about someone who just like really
Speaker 5: just puts their heart out there, he breaks something and
Speaker 5: this makes it sound like, I mean, I can you
Speaker 5: know dad, mom, stepdad, like big family people always around,
Speaker 5: like the whole thing. He the way he would say
Speaker 5: every time he did this take, and he would say like,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's just for for a long time,
Speaker 5: I guess my whole life or somebody was just me
Speaker 5: and my mom.
Speaker 6: Every time he said it.
Speaker 5: Every time he said it, it could it genuinely made
Speaker 5: me cross vulnerable and you know, like you know, I
Speaker 5: mean we're all at this the night before when you
Speaker 5: read like Alli cries, you think like fuck, how am
Speaker 5: I going to do this right? And I you know,
Speaker 5: like that's that's just always a concern. And then at
Speaker 5: some point you're like, well I can I can trust
Speaker 5: the process or there could be a menthol sting like
Speaker 5: you never want to call for menthol.
Speaker 2: And calling for a moment you don't as smoke.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you just will find different ways in you
Speaker 5: know whatever that thing is. Yeah, fuck it it's boring
Speaker 5: to talk about, but it never has happened to me
Speaker 5: where it was always one actor saying the same phrase
Speaker 5: like eight takes in a row broke me every time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what was the line? It was like, you know, it
Speaker 5: was just me and my mom, It was just the
Speaker 5: two of us.
Speaker 3: There is a cut of that scene that we had
Speaker 3: to cut down because it was.
Speaker 2: Just it just the the episode was getting too long.
Speaker 6: That is so.
Speaker 3: Like if he's great and in what you see and
Speaker 3: you feel it, there's one cut that is just this
Speaker 3: we cut that perform his performance, it's like so amazing and.
Speaker 2: It still is, it still is still good. But you know,
Speaker 2: like any edit, you know you have to cut the fat.
Speaker 3: But like if you were just if we could do,
Speaker 3: like if you could do an edit of certain scenes
Speaker 3: that we had to cut down that to one of them.
Speaker 3: That was just hard to cut as much fat as we.
Speaker 2: Had to out of it.
Speaker 3: You know, he he's so good in that scene.
Speaker 2: Everybody's great in that scene.
Speaker 3: And then when I was going through the edit of
Speaker 3: that There's There's I was laughing as you were talking
Speaker 3: because Justin's single There's on it. Watching it while he's
Speaker 3: Fabrizio's doing the thing is so funny because he's just.
Speaker 8: It's so funny in the cut where there's like I
Speaker 8: saw it looked like a Bentley dealership.
Speaker 5: And you guys.
Speaker 9: Like it is it kind of is It's like watching
Speaker 9: everybody's singles and that what is.
Speaker 3: Was just I can't even I wish, I wish we
Speaker 3: could show that to. You know, once you get to
Speaker 3: know the characters, it's like you fall in love with them.
Speaker 3: Then you can just watch the single on them the
Speaker 3: whole time. It's just everyone's so in the pocket, you.
Speaker 5: Know, even when when the scene when he when he
Speaker 5: walks up to you and he his character really breaks
Speaker 5: and your character finds out for the first time that
Speaker 5: he's had a boyfriend. Yeah, right there, there I had
Speaker 5: because we've just gone to the pool in which your
Speaker 5: sister I'm pointing at Oliver. It's hard to say Oliver
Speaker 5: because he's wearing a unicorn suit, takes in some sort
Speaker 5: of the ward jumpsuit with them like criscross jeans over
Speaker 5: the time, and Drew and I look like normal accountants.
Speaker 5: These are the two accountants. This is the one where
Speaker 5: she interviews the accountants. But we're walking up where our
Speaker 5: characters have just been in a pool, and I was
Speaker 5: soaking wet, and there I said, let's call back the
Speaker 5: fact that I get called out for having European underwear
Speaker 5: earlier in the season. So I put on this like
Speaker 5: little red speedo and I get myself drenched, and then
Speaker 5: I look over and Drew's quiet, and he's, you know,
Speaker 5: taking a moment before this scene where he's gonna happen,
Speaker 5: and I became very conscious of like I can't self
Speaker 5: conscious of, like I don't want to take him out
Speaker 5: of his thing, right, But then maybe the real of
Speaker 5: this would be, like, I don't think ness would give
Speaker 5: a shit that his brother's in a thing, and how
Speaker 5: do you do this? And a credit to Drew is
Speaker 5: he was he was private and then we got going.
Speaker 5: In the first couple of takes, I think I just
Speaker 5: had my robe open to my speedo and Drew just
Speaker 5: kind of turned and I don't know if he clocked
Speaker 5: it or not, but it didn't take him out right,
Speaker 5: you know, because he's this improviser, like to this ump
Speaker 5: degree where it's like yes, and it's not gonna be like, dude,
Speaker 5: your speedo took me out of my thing with the
Speaker 5: fuck yeah right. So it's that kind of trust of
Speaker 5: like and if it does, then then I would never
Speaker 5: do it, right, that trust of performers, I think. So
Speaker 5: it started as people and then it goes to performers
Speaker 5: and then it comes out as characters.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because you're witnessing a process that you
Speaker 1: haven't really witnessed because usually it's all funny and funny
Speaker 1: and funny, but now you have to get into a
Speaker 1: space and now you're like, oh, i'ven't dealt with this yet,
Speaker 1: Like how.
Speaker 6: Do I deal with That's always my cool? Yeah I
Speaker 6: still joke with you totally.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely like I mean, but the
Speaker 8: I think I want in that scene if I can
Speaker 8: like Okay, I'm gonna go try to get to this place.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a difficult thing. You walk in you.
Speaker 8: You have to like and you're also trying to figure
Speaker 8: out the tone like should I how you know, should
Speaker 8: this be like.
Speaker 6: Full real? Will that be too much? Is it?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 8: What's how does is this gonna look in the whole
Speaker 8: big picture of everything?
Speaker 6: But it's like I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just like I trust everybody who's making this show,
Speaker 8: and they'll find it like or they'll tell me if
Speaker 8: like they'll walk in and be like that was too
Speaker 8: much or that's not enough or whatever.
Speaker 6: But I think, like the.
Speaker 8: It was so funny to me, like to really do
Speaker 8: it and then have you guys kind of like pat
Speaker 8: me and you're like if you're in a stupid speedo
Speaker 8: it's funnier like all of that ads too, because that's
Speaker 8: what it feels like in real life. You know, you're
Speaker 8: crying at these times where it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 8: I'm crying now, like and it's so funny you don't.
Speaker 6: Break, you know, like.
Speaker 8: You want all those you know, like those laughs right
Speaker 8: next to the cries are so good.
Speaker 3: It's so important, so and they're so hard like that's
Speaker 3: I think that's the tone.
Speaker 2: That's hard to capture.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's like what you're all, it's my
Speaker 3: favorite tone, you know. It's like when you're laughing through
Speaker 3: tears that actually pull at you in a real way,
Speaker 3: not in a like fake and not you know, not
Speaker 3: in like a not in like a contrived way, you know.
Speaker 5: And narratively though, that is our families, right. I think
Speaker 5: most people feel like, I remember my dad. When my
Speaker 5: dad hears a national anthem, he cries. Yeah, you could
Speaker 5: listen to it six times in a row. He's gonna
Speaker 5: cry six times in a row. And most people, like
Speaker 5: if you're at a ballgame or something and you're with them,
Speaker 5: most people will look over and see it. He's a
Speaker 5: giant man, and they'll look over and they'll be like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, when my mom is with us, you know,
Speaker 5: people will be like Jelly. You know, they've been divorced
Speaker 5: for forty one years, but they'll be like, oh my god, Shelly,
Speaker 5: is he crising. She'll be like, oh Jesus Christ, a
Speaker 5: family right, or familiarity to the level of family right.
Speaker 5: And I think to capture that on screen, I think
Speaker 5: the writing, and then I think, you know, hopefully it
Speaker 5: comes through, because that's what it felt like when we
Speaker 5: were making Drew.
Speaker 8: Where are you from Georgia, Georgia outside of Savannah, rural,
Speaker 8: small town r Tell.
Speaker 2: Oliver what your family does.
Speaker 6: My dad runs a candy factory. Oh my god, yeah
Speaker 6: that's right. Yeah, we were in Greece together.
Speaker 1: Yes, we didn't tell Scotty.
Speaker 6: Restaurant on sunset. We didn't even tell let's get on
Speaker 6: at the restaurant or you were literally sitting at the
Speaker 6: tub of Greece.
Speaker 8: But yeah, like my granddad started it. My dad took
Speaker 8: it over like I maybe should have.
Speaker 6: Probably was like you're leaving to do what are you insane?
Speaker 3: But it is so so as someone who was married
Speaker 3: to someone from Georgia. Rider's grandpa Dutch God rest his
Speaker 3: soul used to send me the those pecan caramel chocolates
Speaker 3: every Christmas, and this Christmas was the first time I
Speaker 3: had gotten sent again or or was it Christmas? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got sent again the same you know, chocolates from
Speaker 3: your family's Yeah, what did.
Speaker 1: Your family think when you're like, no candy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go be an actor.
Speaker 6: I think they were worried.
Speaker 8: My little sister, Caitlin, she had she was like my
Speaker 8: sisters were the talented ones of the family, and they
Speaker 8: were like singers, dancers in every pageant, like.
Speaker 6: Performer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my yeah, his dad really is secretly my performer.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah. But my dad's like a painter, like
Speaker 6: my grandma was a painter.
Speaker 8: Like there's something in there that like, you know, you're
Speaker 8: so remote in these this southern town that you're like
Speaker 8: that's crazy, Like we I'm just going to work for dad,
Speaker 8: like eventually, like I'm gonna make I'm a make candy too,
Speaker 8: which was great, Like that's unbelievable. But my sister auditioned
Speaker 8: for a show the year after American Idol called American Juniors,
Speaker 8: which was a spin off of American Idol. After Kelly
Speaker 8: Clarkson won and she like made it to Hollywood and
Speaker 8: they flew the whole family out here and we all
Speaker 8: sat side stage while she sang every week, and I
Speaker 8: was just kind of like we were all looking like
Speaker 8: we got to see the industry, and we were like, wait, wait,
Speaker 8: so I can like be loud and talk for a living,
Speaker 8: Like I kind of do that already at bonfires, Like
Speaker 8: I'm always lunchline, you know, lunchline. Like I was definitely
Speaker 8: like I was like if I can kill in the
Speaker 8: lunch line, like I could maybe do this. So I
Speaker 8: think they were primed a little bit and they had
Speaker 8: they had seen how it was real, got it, so
Speaker 8: it was le They were like, let's but I think
Speaker 8: you know, like once you're five six years into it
Speaker 8: and you're doing fine, it's a little bit you know there.
Speaker 8: My mom was like, y'all go follow you dreams now.
Speaker 8: And then it's like six years in and they're like,
Speaker 8: y'all still think about these dreams, Like what are we
Speaker 8: thinking about these dreams? You know, like dreams should like
Speaker 8: you know, like dreams seem hard, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 8: so like but they were always you know, they were
Speaker 8: never like stop doing, but.
Speaker 1: They would maybe not push you but sort of bring
Speaker 1: it back into your yeah.
Speaker 6: Just I mean like my own.
Speaker 8: Brain would like they would you know, do you ever
Speaker 8: think about quitting?
Speaker 6: I mean I think I started.
Speaker 8: I saw uc B, the Upright Citizen's Brigade, Like I
Speaker 8: saw a show there, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 8: I just want to do Once I saw that, I
Speaker 8: never thought about it again because I was like, I
Speaker 8: just want to do the Monday night show, yeah, which
Speaker 8: is like the student you know show if I can
Speaker 8: get on Monday nights, which took me like three or
Speaker 8: four years of like constant sort of like banging on
Speaker 8: that door being like lunchline, you know, she thinks I'm
Speaker 8: funny and they're like you're not ready yet or whatever.
Speaker 8: But like I think just the goal was pretty you know, local,
Speaker 8: I guess. So it was just kind of like if
Speaker 8: I can get on Monday nights, and people on Monday
Speaker 8: nights and Friday nights are working comedically and the writers
Speaker 8: or actors or whatever like, so I think once I
Speaker 8: saw that, I was like, I think I can get
Speaker 8: on Monday nights.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So that gave me enough.
Speaker 8: Validation in the classes at sort of like the indie
Speaker 8: comedy Nights where it's like, oh, I bombed like six
Speaker 8: weeks in a row, but then I had that great
Speaker 8: if I could just do that thing I did on
Speaker 8: week seven again, you know you're like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one great shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And were you working I wasting money?
Speaker 8: I was working on a food truck. I like would
Speaker 8: go to an office and like get.
Speaker 5: On a too.
Speaker 8: There was like a room of commercial actors and we
Speaker 8: all kind of did it and you would like buy
Speaker 8: concert tickets on multiple computers and some guys coming over
Speaker 8: with like a booklet of credit cards being like, yeah,
Speaker 8: buy those Zach Bryan's no, don't worry about.
Speaker 6: You know, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I did that for a while definitely.
Speaker 8: Like also like I can't like my I had my
Speaker 8: dad would like if I was really struggling, like he
Speaker 8: would step in, which was like you know, it's it's
Speaker 8: it's my parents would just be kind of be like
Speaker 8: we need to send him five hundred dollars for dreams.
Speaker 6: You know, And it was like that was, you know,
Speaker 6: very helpful.
Speaker 2: Scottie.
Speaker 3: Give the listeners out there a little bit like you
Speaker 3: come from where you come from, no one.
Speaker 1: Knows who you are, great and just like Joe knows
Speaker 1: where you came from.
Speaker 3: You're from Chicago news.
Speaker 5: Now it's been built up, which is weird.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 5: I come from a very large family in Chicago, and
Speaker 5: that family is involved in a lot of different one
Speaker 5: of which is professional sports management the black Hawks, and
Speaker 5: you know other industries of you know, there's banking, there's liquor.
Speaker 5: It's all online. So you're right, there's no like I
Speaker 5: think for me in the in the reason and maybe now,
Speaker 5: particularly honestly after this show, because this is the first
Speaker 5: time I'm ever really playing a character that has any
Speaker 5: means that's not like borderline a psycho, even on the mix.
Speaker 2: Which we do season two, can go down.
Speaker 6: So it took.
Speaker 5: You know, I mean it took oh god, it was
Speaker 5: ten ten plus years where before I could really get
Speaker 5: in the door. And when I finally got in the
Speaker 5: door was as a writer on The Mick. And then
Speaker 5: I became a character who was playing this low life
Speaker 5: degenerate who never went to high school, who lived in
Speaker 5: his van, and there I lived in a van for
Speaker 5: a while, and I guess, depending on who you'd ask,
Speaker 5: there are times that I have been a degenerate, like
Speaker 5: Saturday night and night. But I think, you know, once
Speaker 5: that happened and I was like, okay, I finally broke
Speaker 5: through because it took whatever it be casting or you know,
Speaker 5: production people, studios, writers showing to see me in a way.
Speaker 5: It's like they're like, well, this guy can play degenerate,
Speaker 5: he can play low life degenerate, and somehow I guess
Speaker 5: I'm fangless when I get angry. So it's like he
Speaker 5: can also be really angry, but it's still funny. I
Speaker 5: then became absolutely terrified to change that perception because I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is my lane. I will stick in it.
Speaker 6: Interesting. And so then to talk.
Speaker 5: About coming from a you know, a bigger family with means,
Speaker 5: and to talk about going to you know, some good schools,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, that is against the very thing that
Speaker 5: I'm now selling. I'm selling degenerously fangless, swamp dwelling guy.
Speaker 6: Right still but still well still.
Speaker 5: I think and that was a combination, and there was
Speaker 5: a question mark at the end of that.
Speaker 6: Still I still still.
Speaker 1: Still still still sibling siblings.
Speaker 6: It's the first problem.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that then that becomes protective and it's not
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily ego based. And I've done a lot
Speaker 5: of work on this in my garage late at night, the.
Speaker 2: Messages she won't come up.
Speaker 3: It's not sure you know, three thirty am voice message
Speaker 3: that he is in his garage.
Speaker 6: My garage is my last safe space.
Speaker 1: But do you feel like with this role you're still
Speaker 1: walking down, that you're still in that lane deviated?
Speaker 5: It's a weird thing because it's it's it's full of contradiction,
Speaker 5: which is how I feel my own psyche is all
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 3: Is is you like really went in on the craft
Speaker 3: with your writing. You went to Russia and were in
Speaker 3: like dramas, going to dance. You did things that were
Speaker 3: so outside of what you knew as your foundation so
Speaker 3: that it mattered so much. I think if I could
Speaker 3: speak for you as somebody who also understands like you
Speaker 3: want people to know how much the craft, if you're.
Speaker 5: Going to speak for me, do the voice.
Speaker 3: But I but but I think that that also probably
Speaker 3: is why you have always been hesitant to like share,
Speaker 3: because it's better to not.
Speaker 2: It's it's like you don't want.
Speaker 3: That to overshadow ever, what you're doing, how important the
Speaker 3: craft is.
Speaker 5: Maybe the verb you used was breakaway. And I think
Speaker 5: if if and anyone in Chicago. Who knows my family
Speaker 5: both on my mom and dad's side, right, because I'm
Speaker 5: actually talking about one side or the other.
Speaker 6: Is there's so.
Speaker 5: Many artists, I mean genuine like you know, but they
Speaker 5: they haven't necessarily gone to make their trade on their art.
Speaker 5: But it is a very artistic family, which is interesting
Speaker 5: given that Drew's both of his sisters are in it.
Speaker 5: And then obviously your entire extended fan. I mean when
Speaker 5: I was with you guys in the desert once, I
Speaker 5: think I was talking to Kate about while they're going
Speaker 5: to do the movie with you, and I was like,
Speaker 5: are you guys flagging this stuff? Like do you want
Speaker 5: yet another generation of people going into it as a trade?
Speaker 6: Like you know, like is that that?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6: You know, what are you gonna do? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you got your brother, Yeah, I just went
Speaker 1: into it, right Have you been?
Speaker 5: Have you been.
Speaker 6: Jealous of his career?
Speaker 9: Ever?
Speaker 1: No? Never, is he jealous of yours? Now that you're
Speaker 1: kind of something good.
Speaker 5: So we've also been out here long enough that people
Speaker 5: get hot and people get cold, and it comes around
Speaker 5: and it goes around. You just got to you got
Speaker 5: to put your head down and keep it in the work,
Speaker 5: and I really do. I really do think that, and
Speaker 5: I think my brother and his wife were very helpful
Speaker 5: to me when because.
Speaker 6: I was out here, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, where are you putting your goal posts to
Speaker 5: keep yourself intrinsically motivated? And you don't take those goalposts
Speaker 5: away from yourself. So like the goal you know, just
Speaker 5: to hear that's such a clean, external specific goal, like
Speaker 5: I want to be part of the Monday night show, right,
Speaker 5: and and and then getting it gives you purpose, It
Speaker 5: gives you drive, and it gives you yardage. Right. The
Speaker 5: thing that I found, given that I did spend so
Speaker 5: much time in academics, was like the yardage was the grades. Right,
Speaker 5: you get the AA it means as you then you
Speaker 5: go to art school or for me, theater school, well
Speaker 5: the yardage starts changing. Like the artist is like can
Speaker 5: you lie on your back and cry on cue? It's like, well,
Speaker 5: but everybody in the room could do that. I could
Speaker 5: never do them right. So like then you start getting
Speaker 5: into a nebulous thing of like how am I quote
Speaker 5: unquote doing well or being successful? You come out here
Speaker 5: unless you do those external in things for yourself if
Speaker 5: the only yardage is you get a role, you're fucked
Speaker 5: because you have no control over whether you get the role.
Speaker 5: You have control whether you're ready for the role, but
Speaker 5: you don't have control over whether you get them now.
Speaker 5: And that took a while. And on top of it,
Speaker 5: I was out here with a medium length haircut crossing
Speaker 5: my fucking.
Speaker 6: Tips for like ten years. Oh yeah, because I was like,
Speaker 6: what's the role I have to play? You know, like,
Speaker 6: what how do I have to get tips when it's
Speaker 6: medium length?
Speaker 9: That's true, that's short.
Speaker 1: After you've hit that sort of benchmark of Monday nights, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you set yourself another goal after that?
Speaker 5: It's weird, I'm gonna say, but he showed me and
Speaker 5: his journal he said, I will be Kate Hudson's brother.
Speaker 6: Well, truly, it's very exciting.
Speaker 8: Like I didn't know coming through UCB, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 8: a lot of people, I think the one to one
Speaker 8: here for doing live sketch is SNL, Like let's I
Speaker 8: loved SNL. I was like, oh, I think I could
Speaker 8: do that because I'm doing it here in a small way.
Speaker 8: I know that's much more difficult, but I think like
Speaker 8: that was sort of once I was doing Monday Nights.
Speaker 8: I was like, there's a lot of people, or like,
Speaker 8: this is a way to gun for SNL, so you
Speaker 8: like try that. And I think through you know, throwing
Speaker 8: your hat in the ring every couple years and trying
Speaker 8: to get into a showcase and maybe you'll make it
Speaker 8: to New York and you're like, you know, friends of
Speaker 8: yours are going and they're getting on and you're like,
Speaker 8: this is so cool, Like it was so cool to
Speaker 8: be part of the group that was getting to try
Speaker 8: and I was like, this is crazy that I'm in
Speaker 8: the group that's getting considered. Yeah, but I think, like,
Speaker 8: you know, obviously that's a very tough show to get on,
Speaker 8: so you know, but Lorne produced the other two the
Speaker 8: last show I did, which was unbelievable. Like so I
Speaker 8: think you're just you're trying to knock at that door
Speaker 8: and you end up at other doors and you're like
Speaker 8: this is actually better for me or.
Speaker 6: Right for me now or whatever.
Speaker 8: So I think you're just kind of it was always
Speaker 8: just sort of like okay, what's the next one year
Speaker 8: or two years, whether that was like by design or
Speaker 8: just self preservation or just sort of like and.
Speaker 6: Support well, yeah, like what you were saying like that.
Speaker 5: I think that funny thing is like I always felt
Speaker 5: very supported by everybody in Chicago. It wasn't like fuck you,
Speaker 5: you're going to go out there, then fuck you. It
Speaker 5: was like, hey man, we are all here rooting for you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And and support can mean many things that financial can
Speaker 5: mean emotional, but truthfully, like having people root for you
Speaker 5: while you're trying to do something means everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also because they know you love it. But
Speaker 2: I think it's like I'm sitting here.
Speaker 3: Listening to you both, and then I think about how
Speaker 3: many people we've interviewed on this podcast, and it's so
Speaker 3: like the journey of a performer is so fucking weird
Speaker 3: and fucked up and wild because you love it so
Speaker 3: much and you want it so bad, and it's the
Speaker 3: most like destabilizing, insecure, like tumultuous career you could seek
Speaker 3: because you're at the whim of somebody wanting you to
Speaker 3: be doing something. You're constantly putting yourself out there. You're
Speaker 3: constantly trying to get in in different ways that you
Speaker 3: can because you really actually love to perform. And when
Speaker 3: you get that bug or you have that bug, you
Speaker 3: can't explain it to anyone who doesn't have it, how
Speaker 3: much it means to you, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: if you don't have that thing where you're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I love this so much and have to
Speaker 3: do this, nobody would ever understand why you would seek
Speaker 3: it out. It's so painful and rejecting, and you know,
Speaker 3: complicated and and and but I love when you hear
Speaker 3: people's drive to do the very thing that a lot
Speaker 3: of people just are like, I mean, don't you just
Speaker 3: want to get a real job, you know, and have
Speaker 3: that stability and.
Speaker 1: Its hold on Before we finished this, what do you
Speaker 1: have acting notes for Scotty?
Speaker 2: He really means Scotty.
Speaker 1: Scotty No, no, meaning like if you could give that,
Speaker 1: was there anything you would say, Man, if you could
Speaker 1: let go of this, or if you could add a
Speaker 1: little bit more of this? As someone who is you know,
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson looking at would you say you can.
Speaker 6: Just let go more here? Or if you could do
Speaker 6: this we're just two young guys, would.
Speaker 1: To be totally honest and candidate You're like, no, you
Speaker 1: just can't know what you're doing.
Speaker 6: I will think about this for.
Speaker 2: Initial. This is so great. I love this because I'm
Speaker 2: only going to talk.
Speaker 3: About Scotty because I don't really have many initial things
Speaker 3: for Drew.
Speaker 2: But Scotty has this thing I have to go.
Speaker 5: It's been so much fun.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 3: Scotty cares more than people would maybe think he does.
Speaker 3: Like and if you saw him out or talk, like,
Speaker 3: if you didn't know him, you would think he was nonchalant.
Speaker 2: About his craft. But it's the opposite.
Speaker 3: He cares so much about the craft that sometimes you
Speaker 3: want to be like, you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Work so hard right for this? Right now?
Speaker 6: Love it?
Speaker 5: And yeah, I went on this one.
Speaker 3: And and with and I think that, like, you know,
Speaker 3: Ness his character on this tonally, if he has to
Speaker 3: walk a line that has been you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I've had everyone has their favorite characters, crazy like people
Speaker 3: I come up to me and they're like, oh, oh god,
Speaker 3: your brother Sandy's so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ness is my favorite. Like oh, just
Speaker 2: like a you know.
Speaker 3: Cam, everyone has the person that they connect to so
Speaker 3: so it resonates in it and you did it so well.
Speaker 3: But in the process of doing it, sometimes it it
Speaker 3: weighs on him and you want to like if I
Speaker 3: was to say the thing that we say to to
Speaker 3: like the siblings, which I think we should do at
Speaker 3: the end of this. But my thing to alleviate for
Speaker 3: him is the pressure he puts on himself to get
Speaker 3: it right.
Speaker 2: Like I would say, get take I.
Speaker 3: Would I would try to alleviate that from him.
Speaker 6: Wow and nothing that.
Speaker 5: Was good?
Speaker 8: Yeah, because naturally you are so dead on always yeah,
Speaker 8: like it wouldn't ring. Nothing you did would ring untrue
Speaker 8: to me, and then you would be like, fuck, that
Speaker 8: was amazing.
Speaker 6: You're not a mess on set. I'm not saying that
Speaker 6: like you're like, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great note to hear because I have
Speaker 5: no defense against that note, and I don't if I'm
Speaker 5: being totally honest, I hear it, I agree with you,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if I necessarily want to change it.
Speaker 2: You don't have to write well you are.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting when I think of performers, which
Speaker 5: is why I love sitting with you and you and
Speaker 5: and talk because you guys, obviously, having grown up in
Speaker 5: the entertainment world, you crossed paths with just you know,
Speaker 5: some all timers, and so I'm always curious about that
Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with process. I'm not one who's gonna sit
Speaker 5: there and pull his fingernails out, because I think you
Speaker 5: have to go through pain or discomfort to get some Actually,
Speaker 5: I think the realization I made with the help of
Speaker 5: a acting teacher, Sharon Chatton once, which is it's about
Speaker 5: the let go, it's about the release, it's about the
Speaker 5: relaxation into it. But prior to the let go release
Speaker 5: and relaxation, Yeah, there's consternation and strife for.
Speaker 6: Me, right, Yeah, I think that's interesting.
Speaker 8: I think I would note myself similarly. I don't know
Speaker 8: how I come off, but like coming up, I would
Speaker 8: be so intense about memorization and then also so within
Speaker 8: that doing comedy stuff, being like okay, so maybe like
Speaker 8: I've done a ton of improv which you can't think about,
Speaker 8: which I love because you just have to throw yourself
Speaker 8: out there and fall down the hill and it either
Speaker 8: goes well or it doesn't. But you're like, you can't
Speaker 8: plan anything. But then when you start to put you know,
Speaker 8: start doing scripted stuff and doing lines and doing you know,
Speaker 8: whether it be sketches or whatever, You're like, you want
Speaker 8: to be loose still, so you kind of like I
Speaker 8: would be super in set, like like a little bit
Speaker 8: too much, a little too intense about the memorization. So
Speaker 8: I wasn't loose at times. So I would be like,
Speaker 8: my next line is this, My next line is this?
Speaker 8: Like and then I would also kind of be like, oh,
Speaker 8: if they say that and they improvise that way, I'll
Speaker 8: go that way too.
Speaker 6: So I would have like even.
Speaker 8: That were like way too much and I wasn't listening anymore,
Speaker 8: and that would that that like is even though you
Speaker 8: knew you knew the lines, Yeah, I didn't realize that
Speaker 8: when you were Sometimes in a scene.
Speaker 6: Letting go is what makes it so good because.
Speaker 5: Your background as an improvisers you listen right like as
Speaker 5: an actor, Like day two, I'm looking at him, I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh fuck, he's really listening.
Speaker 6: He's not waiting to say.
Speaker 3: Which is listening different about well?
Speaker 5: People are like, what's it like to work with Kate?
Speaker 5: And what is it the Muppet Babies or Charlie Brown.
Speaker 5: But it's like someone the principal's voice comes on and
Speaker 5: goes like.
Speaker 6: It was kind of like, do you have any notes
Speaker 6: for Kate?
Speaker 2: I'll take him.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I have observations of both of them and
Speaker 5: Drew it was listening. I thought, uh, I, I thought
Speaker 5: your thing was really interesting. I've you know, we've all
Speaker 5: been around now a bit. I thought her thing was wild.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, I I't seen that thing before,
Speaker 5: which is like take one is finding it, you know,
Speaker 5: as as as your wing person in that scene, I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 5: does she know this scene? Are we gonna find this?
Speaker 5: It's gonna take eighty eight takes and then it's like
Speaker 5: take two, like and you're like, oh, what the fuck
Speaker 5: is that? That's a different thing, you know, like you
Speaker 5: know having you know, we've all studied it, and but
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, that was unique and it's great. It's
Speaker 5: organic and it's it's like you know, So that's what
Speaker 5: I love about this job is you know, like if
Speaker 5: you were a doctor and I am medically I've read
Speaker 5: every page of WEMBD so medical License, I would say
Speaker 5: what I like, you know, if you go in, if
Speaker 5: you go in, if you're U Cardiac pedeology, pediatric cardio,
Speaker 5: and you went in and and you we were going
Speaker 5: to get into the like you know, a order, and
Speaker 5: I saw him cut the in a weird new way.
Speaker 5: I want to be like, oh, this is so interesting
Speaker 5: the way that doctor Drew cuts into the A order.
Speaker 5: For the most part, everyone like within a small err, yeah,
Speaker 5: that procedure is the same, right, that's it's so opposite
Speaker 5: of this man. You go on sets, like every time
Speaker 5: you get to work with someone.
Speaker 6: It's all different.
Speaker 5: And then it's wild when like people who have worked
Speaker 5: a lot like you, I'm like, oh, I've never seen
Speaker 5: someone cut like that, and it's wild because the result
Speaker 5: is a result, and and you know, I think it's
Speaker 5: for itself and it's.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a was great with like, uh, like
Speaker 8: is this in the voice of the character.
Speaker 6: And I think like on a sitcom it can.
Speaker 8: Be like joke joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke,
Speaker 8: page joke per minute, like and I think Kate would
Speaker 8: you know, And I would sometimes, as somebody who like
Speaker 8: performed a lot on stage, I would be like, give
Speaker 8: me as many oaks as I can that I can
Speaker 8: swing from, so I'm not out there being unfunny for
Speaker 8: two lines or whatever. And Kate, Kate did such a
Speaker 8: you were such a good like monitor on like why
Speaker 8: am I saying this?
Speaker 6: Why is he saying that?
Speaker 8: Like that doesn't make sense for the other stuff that
Speaker 8: we've set up for his character, like the joke needs
Speaker 8: to change or it needs to be like more in line.
Speaker 8: And I thought that was like super helpful and like
Speaker 8: gave us all like very clear directions. So we all
Speaker 8: just kind of kind of weren't just yelling. The funniest
Speaker 8: thing you could write.
Speaker 6: You're thinking, you're thinking, you're thinking, and.
Speaker 5: My number one on the call sheet is the opposite
Speaker 5: of that. You just just say the fucking jokes so
Speaker 5: we can all get home. Yes, it puts you in
Speaker 5: a bad spot when you're below that, and you're like,
Speaker 5: I will, that's my job, but I think like this
Speaker 5: this should have some investigation. Yeah, and so that's really
Speaker 5: helpful and then you feel taken care of as performance.
Speaker 1: When I read there the script, my biggest concern for
Speaker 1: Kate was just making sure that all the basketball lingos
Speaker 1: seemed real, because you are a fucking queen here, you
Speaker 1: know basketball like wrack your fucking hand. And when I
Speaker 1: watched it, I'm like, oh my god, you're so money
Speaker 1: with it, because that was my biggest concern was.
Speaker 3: Well, you have Assassin is such a huge Baskepel and
Speaker 3: Brenda so like Brenda, I could just ask Brenda.
Speaker 1: Right, but even your delivery, it was very easy. It
Speaker 1: was as if you had said it a thousand times.
Speaker 1: Oh good, because when I was reading the script, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like Kate's amazing and anything she does,
Speaker 1: but is she going to be able to is it
Speaker 1: going to be believable when she's talking shop? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: And it was yeah, rights, yeah, yeah, they're on time.
Speaker 5: You know what you're going to say and have an idea, right,
Speaker 5: that's right.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's my favorite thing.
Speaker 6: That's the best.
Speaker 3: You said that, and then and it came I think
Speaker 3: we were too. We're all having drinks and you said
Speaker 3: that when we were having drinks at one point, and
Speaker 3: then it came up on my feed.
Speaker 2: It's not weird like.
Speaker 5: The actual click because it's listening. That's why I don't
Speaker 5: like to talk about you thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, we could talk about this. I mean, this
Speaker 3: has been a long time. I love you.
Speaker 10: Okay, brothers, Yes, we're going to do a rapid fire
Speaker 10: mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Ollie, maybe you become the interviewer as show siblings.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but and then make things up Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you want me to ask them what they
Speaker 1: think of? Like if I say, okay, it's Kate early
Speaker 1: bird er, night out both, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yes, but what do I prefer.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: I am a morning personally in the morning.
Speaker 6: Wrong, She's wrong. That's it. That's good game.
Speaker 1: That's a good game because you want are you your
Speaker 1: TV brothers will say what they think and then I'll
Speaker 1: see what I think and see who's who gets more.
Speaker 3: I like I if I didn't have kids, I probably
Speaker 3: would be more of a night owl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't really like it.
Speaker 8: It's like four am, Like you're like, no, you know,
Speaker 8: I like my bed when she was little, She's like
Speaker 8: ready for bed, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I could have a party and rage by
Speaker 3: like eleven forty five minute. I'm like, I'm like in bed,
Speaker 3: I just let the party.
Speaker 6: Go right, big time night out.
Speaker 5: Yeah. In fact, the last time I was with both
Speaker 5: of you and we were imbibing, you disappeared at eleven.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I stayed out with you.
Speaker 1: It was nine for Kate had a good thirty eight
Speaker 1: minutes of being hammered and then she's like.
Speaker 5: A fucking party, get the poker, and then we're like,
Speaker 5: where's Kate and was like, I'm heading back and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh you are, and she's like, well everyone inside,
Speaker 5: like you know, it's petering out. Kate went to bed.
Speaker 5: I was like, what do you mean? Kate went to bed.
Speaker 5: It's like nine thirty and you can stay. And I
Speaker 5: just looked over at Oliver, who just looking at me.
Speaker 5: He's like, you can stay as long as you want.
Speaker 6: I want to say, man, this guy wants someone.
Speaker 3: No, but yeah, okay, next sweet, but what we gotta
Speaker 3: do to everybody else?
Speaker 6: Drew the night Scott Scott established sweeter savory.
Speaker 2: Oh oh interesting.
Speaker 6: It's a Kate is savory? Yeah, I'm no.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess you you're a savory.
Speaker 5: Yes, and you're I don't know what savory means. You're lying.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say you're Oh.
Speaker 6: I think he's sweet.
Speaker 2: I think he's savory because of his drink choices.
Speaker 6: He's just sweet drinks.
Speaker 2: Are you a sweet?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say savory, although I want to my gut
Speaker 3: is saying sweet.
Speaker 5: I kind of like them both. Yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 5: not like sacred about that kind of and your savory.
Speaker 2: I'm savory?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay a weird.
Speaker 2: Use your wonderful ideas. Yeah, just make up for us.
Speaker 6: Okay, Bruce Springsteen or the.
Speaker 2: Beatles, don't say what do we say what each other is?
Speaker 6: Right? You're Bruce.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna venture to say. I think everybody in this
Speaker 5: room is Bruce.
Speaker 2: I think everybody is a Bruce.
Speaker 5: No way, I don't know that.
Speaker 6: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, that's interesting. Oliver is definitely a Beatle.
Speaker 6: I'm better in a group. I'm Beatle, like.
Speaker 5: Bruce or Beetle or do you who would?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I put on Bruce, but I but I also put
Speaker 3: on the Beatles. I mean, I love that they're the Beatles,
Speaker 3: but but I'd put on Bruce.
Speaker 2: It just makes me weepy.
Speaker 1: It makes me want to write, yeah.
Speaker 5: Bruce makes I looked at Bruce Springsteen as a kid.
Speaker 5: I was like, that motherfucker be dead if he wasn't
Speaker 5: doing this, it was this or death. And that was
Speaker 5: like an early flag where I was like I want
Speaker 5: to do something like that. Yeah, and if I could
Speaker 5: do that, I would have, but I cannot.
Speaker 3: So true, and it's just like you just feel his soul.
Speaker 5: And there's and it's it doesn't even matter whether or
Speaker 5: not you like them musically. There's other artists that are
Speaker 5: like that where I don't necessarily like to listen to him.
Speaker 5: I don't even like what they do. But I'm like,
Speaker 5: it was this or death.
Speaker 3: Okay, ready you're going I'm going to ask one for
Speaker 3: everybody to guess. But every theater concert, I mean.
Speaker 6: What would you rather go to?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know yours, you're your concert.
Speaker 6: Your concert, I think you might be.
Speaker 2: Theater is musical theater?
Speaker 5: Two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and comedy?
Speaker 5: You did love that Moana I put on my garage
Speaker 5: for you. It wasn't I did a one man show
Speaker 5: of concert. For sure.
Speaker 6: I would like to see music where the seats are
Speaker 6: laid out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're a theater guy. I feel like you like more
Speaker 2: stage things.
Speaker 6: Like I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I do like stage stuff for sure, but I also like,
Speaker 8: I love music, and I probably know more about music
Speaker 8: than I do theater.
Speaker 5: What about?
Speaker 6: What about?
Speaker 1: What about this one's it's three Amigos or Annie Hall?
Speaker 1: Oh three amigos Because I'm only saying that because yes,
Speaker 1: it's the movies, but it sort of dictates like.
Speaker 6: It totally imprinted on me in a way.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Three amigos looked at all.
Speaker 5: Intellectually as I got to be an adult.
Speaker 2: And you're older.
Speaker 3: But three megos like yeah, three yeah, three of me
Speaker 3: gooes like I know all the line.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's like when people talk about your influences and of
Speaker 5: course you want to say like it's Brando or something
Speaker 5: like you just gotta get real. And I remember Trey Anastagio,
Speaker 5: the lead singer Fish Guitars.
Speaker 2: I was just with him like a couple of days ago.
Speaker 5: Oh, we're gonna I gotta hear about that.
Speaker 2: No, I forgot about it. I was like, I amazing
Speaker 2: And that's the time. I literally it was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. Scotty, Scotty was here.
Speaker 6: He talks about there.
Speaker 5: There was a documentary, Bittersweet Motel made about them, made
Speaker 5: by the guy who made Joker Phillips, and Trey's talking
Speaker 5: about He's sitting in the front seat his station wag.
Speaker 5: He's talking about the influences of Fish. He's talking about
Speaker 5: being a mall kid growing up in the seventies, like
Speaker 5: hanging out the malls and like the music that influenced
Speaker 5: him was The Grateful Dead. But it was also like
Speaker 5: weird eighties, like you know, Divo and shit, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know that kind of truth that he had, Like,
Speaker 5: of course you want to sit there being like my
Speaker 5: influences are cold trained you see it. No, He's like,
Speaker 5: it was Devo, it was the dead, it was all
Speaker 5: and so three of me makes me think, yeah, all
Speaker 5: that right, one of the most influentials of your life
Speaker 5: real quick, as fast as you can think about.
Speaker 6: It, I can major league, Yes, major league, like that major.
Speaker 10: Rocky rock Clueless, okay, clueless, okay too far?
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, my favorite one ever?
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, some babysitting Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters like that just
Speaker 9: et No, oh my god, last rapid fire.
Speaker 5: Spoon or fork. That's exactly how I would have thought
Speaker 5: it broke for I'm serious. I used to so, I
Speaker 5: used to Tony Robbins, rapid fire for the rest of
Speaker 5: your life. You can only use one, Yeah, you get
Speaker 5: one utensive paper plastic? Yeah, well paper paper kind of
Speaker 5: maniac would say plastic.
Speaker 6: At this point I was thinking about it. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: changed my paper.
Speaker 2: What did Tony Robins say?
Speaker 6: You rapid fire?
Speaker 5: Somebody gets them out of their ability to like think
Speaker 5: about how am I going to come off and say this?
Speaker 5: You start doing. So those are the things spoon or
Speaker 5: for orange orangea cat or dog, and people have to
Speaker 5: go boom boom boom.
Speaker 3: The question is always if there's one thing that you
Speaker 3: could alleviate from that person to make their life eat
Speaker 3: better or easier, what would that be? And then if
Speaker 3: there's one thing you could emulate, what would it be.
Speaker 2: To take toilf that you wish.
Speaker 1: You had more.
Speaker 3: I am going to say like what I said for
Speaker 3: Scotty to begin with, which was you know, just not
Speaker 3: having to you know, is your.
Speaker 5: Thing almost applicable to my life, not just my work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, were saying earlier you were talking about my work.
Speaker 5: I think it's also how you feel about Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And then the one thing that I wish I had
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more going to be I had
Speaker 3: more of Gootti. I think that one of the things
Speaker 3: that I wish I had more of that you have
Speaker 3: is like what Olliver has, which is you have like
Speaker 3: a dedication to your kids where you just will.
Speaker 2: Drive to the end of the earth's for them. I
Speaker 2: will not.
Speaker 3: I will not sit outside in Marvista for five hours
Speaker 3: while my kids are playing a game.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 3: I will, but but there's a certain type of character
Speaker 3: that will just always like go to the end of
Speaker 3: the earth for their kids. And that's something I admire
Speaker 3: by you. You true my favorite human, right.
Speaker 5: I guess right in front of you, I.
Speaker 3: Guess The one thing is that I guess I would
Speaker 3: sort of what would relieve for you is any question
Speaker 3: that you're not exactly where you're supposed to be in
Speaker 3: your life, like that you are exactly where you're supposed
Speaker 3: to be, that you don't need to overthink any of it.
Speaker 3: And and again the whimsical part of it, just being
Speaker 3: present and enjoying the things that you have in the
Speaker 3: moment and not thinking you would alleviate. Well, this is
Speaker 3: the one thing that Yes, it's like I would give
Speaker 3: him more of, like feeling like present in the situations
Speaker 3: that he's in his whole thing with bringing more whimsy
Speaker 3: and whimsical into his life, which I think you've been
Speaker 3: doing a lot more of.
Speaker 8: Yes, Well, that's what I was gonna say about you,
Speaker 8: is like I would want some of your whimsy. Yeah,
Speaker 8: being in the present, I forecast a lot I'm living
Speaker 8: in the future or I'm living in the past.
Speaker 6: You are very good at being right there.
Speaker 8: In the moment and your yeah, whimsical, mischievous, payful like
Speaker 8: I have those, but I catch glimpses of them and.
Speaker 6: Then they're gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd give you more fox fox animal energy.
Speaker 8: Yes, like I'm less beaver, I'm less like building house,
Speaker 8: kind of like walking with sticks.
Speaker 3: And then I would want to emulate your like I
Speaker 3: like your ability to your quick wittedness, like your ability
Speaker 3: to to to always be like wonderful and pleasant and
Speaker 3: kind in a room, but also like just make everyone
Speaker 3: laugh because you just have this quick witted brain that
Speaker 3: can it's like writing on the spot. But your humor
Speaker 3: is so like like even you could you could probably
Speaker 3: say the nastiest thing and it would just feel like
Speaker 3: a teddy bear, like a warm like hug or like
Speaker 3: a blanket. You're like, oh my god, you just completely,
Speaker 3: like you know, assassinated my character in a funny way,
Speaker 3: and it feels like.
Speaker 6: Love all that at work, and then he's mean to
Speaker 6: us at home.
Speaker 3: Seriously, you are just like you're you are maybe the
Speaker 3: funniest human, but you're also the most loving and so
Speaker 3: you know, I wish I could have a little bit
Speaker 3: more of that like brain, that kind of brain, that whit.
Speaker 6: That's that's nice, really nice. Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 4: I love you guys. This is this is too much fun.
Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll do it again.
Speaker 9: It's like a.
Speaker 2: Four part episode.
Speaker 5: Yeahm mmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 4: I love you guys. This is this is too much fun.