WEBVTT - Kate's Brothers From Another Mother (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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<v Speaker 1>a sibling railvalry.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>Revelry.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good, ladies and gentlemen. This is part two of

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<v Speaker 5>sibling rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, I guess, okay, sibling comedy.

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<v Speaker 6>You're doing a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>How much did you actually dive into sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional aspects of what the show was in the relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because did you talk about that? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to track that at all? Or was just pure funny?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there was there moments where you have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this is what I feel like, there's deeper shit.

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<v Speaker 6>Well maybe not coming out on them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let me give you an example of I

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<v Speaker 3>think that it wasn't necessarily talked about as much as

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<v Speaker 3>it was what was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when we started, we immediately went deep into the

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<v Speaker 3>things in our life personally together, whether it be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>over our dinners or having drinks like we would go there,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be because relationships, family stuff, Like there was

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<v Speaker 3>always sort of a balance of fun and like the

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<v Speaker 3>real things that were going on in our in our

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<v Speaker 3>lives or have gone on our lives on set, the

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<v Speaker 3>moments that were important to us was like everything could

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<v Speaker 3>be funny, but the things that we were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure to discover with each other were the beats that

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<v Speaker 3>I think are the most important things, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the connective tissue. Yes, who really are we together? What

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<v Speaker 3>is the overall you know, what are we trying?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What what are we really trying to achieve? And for

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<v Speaker 3>all of us, it's like being validated by the other person.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know for me it was like I

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<v Speaker 3>just wanted them to love me and to see that

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<v Speaker 3>I could do.

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<v Speaker 5>Your Yeah, it was like eight years before they figured

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<v Speaker 5>out his hook and his finally was he just wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to hug Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like right. But we had this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>We had this moment after the pool scene, which for

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<v Speaker 3>people who haven't seen it, don't want to ruin it,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're we're sitting at the bar and we're shooting

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<v Speaker 3>this scene and it's this really sweet scene and it's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like, you know, I have a line that said,

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<v Speaker 3>Dad really did a number on us, didn't he. But

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<v Speaker 3>in that moment between the takes not to put anybody

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<v Speaker 3>in any like, you know, we had a moment where

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about family, our own families growing up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I started to cry, and then Scotti started. We all

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<v Speaker 3>just basically started to cry. But in the scene you're

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<v Speaker 3>crying right right. But next thing you know, we had

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<v Speaker 3>this thing, at least for me, which was a very profound,

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<v Speaker 3>deep connection of we've all had a certain level of

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<v Speaker 3>trauma that you would never think we would tap into

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<v Speaker 3>in the show.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that does though, if it's not on screen,

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<v Speaker 1>It allows you to be safe that's right on the

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<v Speaker 1>screen and saying and doing whatever I feel because you've

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<v Speaker 1>had an experience off.

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<v Speaker 3>And energetically you can feel it because there's a closeness

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah and.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think to step that out.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of wish it was more like that in

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<v Speaker 5>our day to day lives with everybody, which is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what your experience is, you don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what my experienperiences. I don't want to play the game

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<v Speaker 5>of who's had it worse by any stretch. I personally

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<v Speaker 5>feel like, I've probably had it really really great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I've still had some shit that that fucks me up.

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<v Speaker 5>And whether it fucks me up, I mean, my brother

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<v Speaker 5>and I grew up in the same household, Like we're

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<v Speaker 5>different human beings, right, the things that I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the moments I remember, I'm like, that was a really

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<v Speaker 5>tricky night. He'd be like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But then.

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<v Speaker 5>The ship that he has, I'm like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 5>remember that. So let's start with the baseline of like,

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<v Speaker 5>you've just all gone through some shit and I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to cut you some slack until I realize you're consciously

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<v Speaker 5>trying to hurt or offend me on a routine level,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I'm gonna be like, hey man, we're not

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<v Speaker 5>good and I'm out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a thing that we've experienced on this whole show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is each sibling has a completely different perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>how they were raised. Just like you said, writing like

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<v Speaker 1>that fucked me up. I don't know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. I don't even know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had a completely different perception manifested completely

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<v Speaker 3>differently from me than it did for.

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<v Speaker 6>All of them, Yeah, because we're not really here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's all an illusion, yes, ye like it will

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<v Speaker 7>say like, I think there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 7>softness immediately despite us like doing you know, giving each

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<v Speaker 7>other ship and stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>I there was like a tenderness I mean to the

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<v Speaker 8>to the characters too. They're trying to get whoever to

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<v Speaker 8>take them seriously, whether it's you, us, me, the you know,

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<v Speaker 8>entire family.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think you know you're you kinda hold on

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<v Speaker 8>to that. You're pushing that through the entire season, and

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<v Speaker 8>then moments where the characters like they can't do it

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<v Speaker 8>anymore and they just break down like or it's too hard.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna like I have to show some vulnerability with

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<v Speaker 8>my family right here, and they're gonna, you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>this particular family is like okay, like you know a little,

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<v Speaker 8>whether they accept it or not. I think like the

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<v Speaker 8>writing was so good that it was like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>clearly like trying to hold onto it. Trying to hold

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<v Speaker 8>onto it. You're basically just like not trying to cry

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<v Speaker 8>the entire season. That's like you're just like I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>gonna cry.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.

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<v Speaker 8>Cry and then like your your character is done, like

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<v Speaker 8>you can't he can't like hold it or she can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Hold it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I saw Scotty get welling up and

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate situations and the show flagged on that, did you

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<v Speaker 1>actually we're coming to because I'm not making a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's moments where I'm looking because it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>three of you or something, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Scotty is sort of in the background.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't seem right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome to watch the emotion, but I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on for me?

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<v Speaker 3>My biggest my biggest laugh in the show is in

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<v Speaker 3>the conference room with the cocoa line.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just they flew that line and that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they flew that in like take five. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's partly there were some takes of that where the

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<v Speaker 5>crying was too real. There was something that Fabrizzeo said, Jackie,

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<v Speaker 5>and I mean talk about someone who just like really

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<v Speaker 5>just puts their heart out there, he breaks something and

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<v Speaker 5>this makes it sound like, I mean, I can you

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<v Speaker 5>know dad, mom, stepdad, like big family people always around,

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<v Speaker 5>like the whole thing. He the way he would say

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<v Speaker 5>every time he did this take, and he would say like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like it's just for for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess my whole life or somebody was just me

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<v Speaker 5>and my mom.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time he said it.

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<v Speaker 5>Every time he said it, it could it genuinely made

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<v Speaker 5>me cross vulnerable and you know, like you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean we're all at this the night before when you

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<v Speaker 5>read like Alli cries, you think like fuck, how am

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<v Speaker 5>I going to do this right? And I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like that's that's just always a concern. And then at

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<v Speaker 5>some point you're like, well I can I can trust

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<v Speaker 5>the process or there could be a menthol sting like

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<v Speaker 5>you never want to call for menthol.

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<v Speaker 2>And calling for a moment you don't as smoke.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, you just will find different ways in you

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<v Speaker 5>know whatever that thing is. Yeah, fuck it it's boring

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about, but it never has happened to me

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<v Speaker 5>where it was always one actor saying the same phrase

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<v Speaker 5>like eight takes in a row broke me every time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what was the line? It was like, you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was just me and my mom, It was just the

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<v Speaker 5>two of us.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a cut of that scene that we had

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<v Speaker 3>to cut down because it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it just the the episode was getting too long.

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<v Speaker 6>That is so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if he's great and in what you see and

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<v Speaker 3>you feel it, there's one cut that is just this

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<v Speaker 3>we cut that perform his performance, it's like so amazing and.

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<v Speaker 2>It still is, it still is still good. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like any edit, you know you have to cut the fat.

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<v Speaker 3>But like if you were just if we could do,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you could do an edit of certain scenes

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<v Speaker 3>that we had to cut down that to one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>That was just hard to cut as much fat as we.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he he's so good in that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's great in that scene.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when I was going through the edit of

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<v Speaker 3>that There's There's I was laughing as you were talking

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<v Speaker 3>because Justin's single There's on it. Watching it while he's

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<v Speaker 3>Fabrizio's doing the thing is so funny because he's just.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so funny in the cut where there's like I

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<v Speaker 8>saw it looked like a Bentley dealership.

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<v Speaker 5>And you guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Like it is it kind of is It's like watching

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<v Speaker 9>everybody's singles and that what is.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just I can't even I wish, I wish we

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<v Speaker 3>could show that to. You know, once you get to

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<v Speaker 3>know the characters, it's like you fall in love with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you can just watch the single on them the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time. It's just everyone's so in the pocket, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, even when when the scene when he when he

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<v Speaker 5>walks up to you and he his character really breaks

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<v Speaker 5>and your character finds out for the first time that

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<v Speaker 5>he's had a boyfriend. Yeah, right there, there I had

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<v Speaker 5>because we've just gone to the pool in which your

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<v Speaker 5>sister I'm pointing at Oliver. It's hard to say Oliver

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<v Speaker 5>because he's wearing a unicorn suit, takes in some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of the ward jumpsuit with them like criscross jeans over

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<v Speaker 5>the time, and Drew and I look like normal accountants.

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<v Speaker 5>These are the two accountants. This is the one where

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<v Speaker 5>she interviews the accountants. But we're walking up where our

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<v Speaker 5>characters have just been in a pool, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>soaking wet, and there I said, let's call back the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that I get called out for having European underwear

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<v Speaker 5>earlier in the season. So I put on this like

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<v Speaker 5>little red speedo and I get myself drenched, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I look over and Drew's quiet, and he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>taking a moment before this scene where he's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 5>and I became very conscious of like I can't self

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<v Speaker 5>conscious of, like I don't want to take him out

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<v Speaker 5>of his thing, right, But then maybe the real of

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<v Speaker 5>this would be, like, I don't think ness would give

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<v Speaker 5>a shit that his brother's in a thing, and how

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<v Speaker 5>do you do this? And a credit to Drew is

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<v Speaker 5>he was he was private and then we got going.

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<v Speaker 5>In the first couple of takes, I think I just

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<v Speaker 5>had my robe open to my speedo and Drew just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of turned and I don't know if he clocked

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<v Speaker 5>it or not, but it didn't take him out right,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because he's this improviser, like to this ump

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<v Speaker 5>degree where it's like yes, and it's not gonna be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>your speedo took me out of my thing with the

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<v Speaker 5>fuck yeah right. So it's that kind of trust of

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<v Speaker 5>like and if it does, then then I would never

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<v Speaker 5>do it, right, that trust of performers, I think. So

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<v Speaker 5>it started as people and then it goes to performers

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<v Speaker 5>and then it comes out as characters.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting because you're witnessing a process that you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really witnessed because usually it's all funny and funny

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<v Speaker 1>and funny, but now you have to get into a

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<v Speaker 1>space and now you're like, oh, i'ven't dealt with this yet,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I deal with That's always my cool? Yeah I

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<v Speaker 6>still joke with you totally.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely like I mean, but the

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<v Speaker 8>I think I want in that scene if I can

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<v Speaker 8>like Okay, I'm gonna go try to get to this place.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's a difficult thing. You walk in you.

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<v Speaker 8>You have to like and you're also trying to figure

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<v Speaker 8>out the tone like should I how you know, should

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<v Speaker 8>this be like.

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<v Speaker 6>Full real? Will that be too much? Is it?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 8>What's how does is this gonna look in the whole

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<v Speaker 8>big picture of everything?

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<v Speaker 6>But it's like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I just like I trust everybody who's making this show,

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<v Speaker 8>and they'll find it like or they'll tell me if

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<v Speaker 8>like they'll walk in and be like that was too

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<v Speaker 8>much or that's not enough or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think, like the.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so funny to me, like to really do

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<v Speaker 8>it and then have you guys kind of like pat

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<v Speaker 8>me and you're like if you're in a stupid speedo

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<v Speaker 8>it's funnier like all of that ads too, because that's

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<v Speaker 8>what it feels like in real life. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 8>crying at these times where it's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm crying now, like and it's so funny you don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Break, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 8>You want all those you know, like those laughs right

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<v Speaker 8>next to the cries are so good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so important, so and they're so hard like that's

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the tone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to capture.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's like what you're all, it's my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite tone, you know. It's like when you're laughing through

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<v Speaker 3>tears that actually pull at you in a real way,

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<v Speaker 3>not in a like fake and not you know, not

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<v Speaker 3>in like a not in like a contrived way, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And narratively though, that is our families, right. I think

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<v Speaker 5>most people feel like, I remember my dad. When my

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<v Speaker 5>dad hears a national anthem, he cries. Yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 5>listen to it six times in a row. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>cry six times in a row. And most people, like

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<v Speaker 5>if you're at a ballgame or something and you're with them,

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<v Speaker 5>most people will look over and see it. He's a

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<v Speaker 5>giant man, and they'll look over and they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, when my mom is with us, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>people will be like Jelly. You know, they've been divorced

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<v Speaker 5>for forty one years, but they'll be like, oh my god, Shelly,

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<v Speaker 5>is he crising. She'll be like, oh Jesus Christ, a

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<v Speaker 5>family right, or familiarity to the level of family right.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think to capture that on screen, I think

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<v Speaker 5>the writing, and then I think, you know, hopefully it

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<v Speaker 5>comes through, because that's what it felt like when we

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<v Speaker 5>were making Drew.

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<v Speaker 8>Where are you from Georgia, Georgia outside of Savannah, rural,

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<v Speaker 8>small town r Tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver what your family does.

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<v Speaker 6>My dad runs a candy factory. Oh my god, yeah

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<v Speaker 6>that's right. Yeah, we were in Greece together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we didn't tell Scotty.

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<v Speaker 6>Restaurant on sunset. We didn't even tell let's get on

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<v Speaker 6>at the restaurant or you were literally sitting at the

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<v Speaker 6>tub of Greece.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, like my granddad started it. My dad took

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<v Speaker 8>it over like I maybe should have.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably was like you're leaving to do what are you insane?

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<v Speaker 3>But it is so so as someone who was married

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<v Speaker 3>to someone from Georgia. Rider's grandpa Dutch God rest his

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<v Speaker 3>soul used to send me the those pecan caramel chocolates

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<v Speaker 3>every Christmas, and this Christmas was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>had gotten sent again or or was it Christmas? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got sent again the same you know, chocolates from

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<v Speaker 3>your family's Yeah, what did.

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<v Speaker 1>Your family think when you're like, no candy, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go be an actor.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they were worried.

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<v Speaker 8>My little sister, Caitlin, she had she was like my

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<v Speaker 8>sisters were the talented ones of the family, and they

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<v Speaker 8>were like singers, dancers in every pageant, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Performer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like my yeah, his dad really is secretly my performer.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah yeah. But my dad's like a painter, like

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<v Speaker 6>my grandma was a painter.

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<v Speaker 8>Like there's something in there that like, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 8>so remote in these this southern town that you're like

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<v Speaker 8>that's crazy, Like we I'm just going to work for dad,

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<v Speaker 8>like eventually, like I'm gonna make I'm a make candy too,

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<v Speaker 8>which was great, Like that's unbelievable. But my sister auditioned

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<v Speaker 8>for a show the year after American Idol called American Juniors,

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<v Speaker 8>which was a spin off of American Idol. After Kelly

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<v Speaker 8>Clarkson won and she like made it to Hollywood and

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<v Speaker 8>they flew the whole family out here and we all

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<v Speaker 8>sat side stage while she sang every week, and I

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<v Speaker 8>was just kind of like we were all looking like

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<v Speaker 8>we got to see the industry, and we were like, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 8>so I can like be loud and talk for a living,

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<v Speaker 8>Like I kind of do that already at bonfires, Like

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<v Speaker 8>I'm always lunchline, you know, lunchline. Like I was definitely

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<v Speaker 8>like I was like if I can kill in the

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<v Speaker 8>lunch line, like I could maybe do this. So I

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<v Speaker 8>think they were primed a little bit and they had

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<v Speaker 8>they had seen how it was real, got it, so

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<v Speaker 8>it was le They were like, let's but I think

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like once you're five six years into it

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<v Speaker 8>and you're doing fine, it's a little bit you know there.

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<v Speaker 8>My mom was like, y'all go follow you dreams now.

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<v Speaker 8>And then it's like six years in and they're like,

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<v Speaker 8>y'all still think about these dreams, Like what are we

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<v Speaker 8>thinking about these dreams? You know, like dreams should like

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like dreams seem hard, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>so like but they were always you know, they were

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<v Speaker 8>never like stop doing, but.

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<v Speaker 1>They would maybe not push you but sort of bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back into your yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Just I mean like my own.

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<v Speaker 8>Brain would like they would you know, do you ever

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<v Speaker 8>think about quitting?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I think I started.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw uc B, the Upright Citizen's Brigade, Like I

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<v Speaker 8>saw a show there, and I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 8>I just want to do Once I saw that, I

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<v Speaker 8>never thought about it again because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 8>just want to do the Monday night show, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 8>is like the student you know show if I can

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<v Speaker 8>get on Monday nights, which took me like three or

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<v Speaker 8>four years of like constant sort of like banging on

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<v Speaker 8>that door being like lunchline, you know, she thinks I'm

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<v Speaker 8>funny and they're like you're not ready yet or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>But like I think just the goal was pretty you know, local,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess. So it was just kind of like if

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<v Speaker 8>I can get on Monday nights, and people on Monday

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<v Speaker 8>nights and Friday nights are working comedically and the writers

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<v Speaker 8>or actors or whatever like, so I think once I

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<v Speaker 8>saw that, I was like, I think I can get

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<v Speaker 8>on Monday nights.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So that gave me enough.

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<v Speaker 8>Validation in the classes at sort of like the indie

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<v Speaker 8>comedy Nights where it's like, oh, I bombed like six

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<v Speaker 8>weeks in a row, but then I had that great

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<v Speaker 8>if I could just do that thing I did on

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<v Speaker 8>week seven again, you know you're like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one great shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And were you working I wasting money?

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<v Speaker 8>I was working on a food truck. I like would

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<v Speaker 8>go to an office and like get.

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<v Speaker 5>On a too.

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<v Speaker 8>There was like a room of commercial actors and we

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<v Speaker 8>all kind of did it and you would like buy

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<v Speaker 8>concert tickets on multiple computers and some guys coming over

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<v Speaker 8>with like a booklet of credit cards being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>buy those Zach Bryan's no, don't worry about.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So I did that for a while definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>Like also like I can't like my I had my

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<v Speaker 8>dad would like if I was really struggling, like he

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<v Speaker 8>would step in, which was like you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>it's my parents would just be kind of be like

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<v Speaker 8>we need to send him five hundred dollars for dreams.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, And it was like that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>very helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Scottie.

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<v Speaker 3>Give the listeners out there a little bit like you

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<v Speaker 3>come from where you come from, no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Knows who you are, great and just like Joe knows

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<v Speaker 1>where you came from.

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<v Speaker 3>You're from Chicago news.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's been built up, which is weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I'm from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>I come from a very large family in Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 5>that family is involved in a lot of different one

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<v Speaker 5>of which is professional sports management the black Hawks, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know other industries of you know, there's banking, there's liquor.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all online. So you're right, there's no like I

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<v Speaker 5>think for me in the in the reason and maybe now,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly honestly after this show, because this is the first

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<v Speaker 5>time I'm ever really playing a character that has any

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<v Speaker 5>means that's not like borderline a psycho, even on the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>Which we do season two, can go down.

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<v Speaker 6>So it took.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I mean it took oh god, it was

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<v Speaker 5>ten ten plus years where before I could really get

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<v Speaker 5>in the door. And when I finally got in the

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<v Speaker 5>door was as a writer on The Mick. And then

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<v Speaker 5>I became a character who was playing this low life

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<v Speaker 5>degenerate who never went to high school, who lived in

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<v Speaker 5>his van, and there I lived in a van for

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<v Speaker 5>a while, and I guess, depending on who you'd ask,

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<v Speaker 5>there are times that I have been a degenerate, like

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<v Speaker 5>Saturday night and night. But I think, you know, once

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<v Speaker 5>that happened and I was like, okay, I finally broke

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<v Speaker 5>through because it took whatever it be casting or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>production people, studios, writers showing to see me in a way.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like they're like, well, this guy can play degenerate,

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<v Speaker 5>he can play low life degenerate, and somehow I guess

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fangless when I get angry. So it's like he

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<v Speaker 5>can also be really angry, but it's still funny. I

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<v Speaker 5>then became absolutely terrified to change that perception because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is my lane. I will stick in it.

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<v Speaker 6>Interesting. And so then to talk.

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<v Speaker 5>About coming from a you know, a bigger family with means,

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<v Speaker 5>and to talk about going to you know, some good schools,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, that is against the very thing that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm now selling. I'm selling degenerously fangless, swamp dwelling guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Right still but still well still.

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<v Speaker 5>I think and that was a combination, and there was

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<v Speaker 5>a question mark at the end of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Still I still still.

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<v Speaker 1>Still still still sibling siblings.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the first problem.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So that then that becomes protective and it's not

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<v Speaker 5>it's not necessarily ego based. And I've done a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of work on this in my garage late at night, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Messages she won't come up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not sure you know, three thirty am voice message

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<v Speaker 3>that he is in his garage.

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<v Speaker 6>My garage is my last safe space.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel like with this role you're still

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<v Speaker 1>walking down, that you're still in that lane deviated?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a weird thing because it's it's it's full of contradiction,

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<v Speaker 5>which is how I feel my own psyche is all

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<v Speaker 5>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is is you like really went in on the craft

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<v Speaker 3>with your writing. You went to Russia and were in

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<v Speaker 3>like dramas, going to dance. You did things that were

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<v Speaker 3>so outside of what you knew as your foundation so

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<v Speaker 3>that it mattered so much. I think if I could

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<v Speaker 3>speak for you as somebody who also understands like you

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<v Speaker 3>want people to know how much the craft, if you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to speak for me, do the voice.

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<v Speaker 3>But I but but I think that that also probably

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<v Speaker 3>is why you have always been hesitant to like share,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's better to not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's like you don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>That to overshadow ever, what you're doing, how important the

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<v Speaker 3>craft is.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe the verb you used was breakaway. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>if if and anyone in Chicago. Who knows my family

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<v Speaker 5>both on my mom and dad's side, right, because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually talking about one side or the other.

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<v Speaker 6>Is there's so.

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<v Speaker 5>Many artists, I mean genuine like you know, but they

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<v Speaker 5>they haven't necessarily gone to make their trade on their art.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is a very artistic family, which is interesting

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 5>given that Drew's both of his sisters are in it.

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 5>And then obviously your entire extended fan. I mean when

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<v Speaker 5>I was with you guys in the desert once, I

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<v Speaker 5>think I was talking to Kate about while they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to do the movie with you, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>are you guys flagging this stuff? Like do you want

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<v Speaker 5>yet another generation of people going into it as a trade?

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Like you know, like is that that?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, what are you gonna do? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, you got your brother, Yeah, I just went

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<v Speaker 1>into it, right Have you been?

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<v Speaker 5>Have you been.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 6>Jealous of his career?

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 9>Ever?

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>No? Never, is he jealous of yours? Now that you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of something good.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've also been out here long enough that people

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<v Speaker 5>get hot and people get cold, and it comes around

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 5>and it goes around. You just got to you got

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<v Speaker 5>to put your head down and keep it in the work,

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<v Speaker 5>and I really do. I really do think that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think my brother and his wife were very helpful

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 5>to me when because.

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<v Speaker 6>I was out here, it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, where are you putting your goal posts to

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 5>keep yourself intrinsically motivated? And you don't take those goalposts

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<v Speaker 5>away from yourself. So like the goal you know, just

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 5>to hear that's such a clean, external specific goal, like

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be part of the Monday night show, right,

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 5>and and and then getting it gives you purpose, It

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 5>gives you drive, and it gives you yardage. Right. The

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<v Speaker 5>thing that I found, given that I did spend so

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<v Speaker 5>much time in academics, was like the yardage was the grades. Right,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 5>you get the AA it means as you then you

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 5>go to art school or for me, theater school, well

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<v Speaker 5>the yardage starts changing. Like the artist is like can

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<v Speaker 5>you lie on your back and cry on cue? It's like, well,

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 5>but everybody in the room could do that. I could

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<v Speaker 5>never do them right. So like then you start getting

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<v Speaker 5>into a nebulous thing of like how am I quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote doing well or being successful? You come out here

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 5>unless you do those external in things for yourself if

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 5>the only yardage is you get a role, you're fucked

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 5>because you have no control over whether you get the role.

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 5>You have control whether you're ready for the role, but

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 5>you don't have control over whether you get them now.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 5>And that took a while. And on top of it,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 5>I was out here with a medium length haircut crossing

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 5>my fucking.

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<v Speaker 6>Tips for like ten years. Oh yeah, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>what's the role I have to play? You know, like,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 6>what how do I have to get tips when it's

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 6>medium length?

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<v Speaker 9>That's true, that's short.

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<v Speaker 1>After you've hit that sort of benchmark of Monday nights, yeah,

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>did you set yourself another goal after that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's weird, I'm gonna say, but he showed me and

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 5>his journal he said, I will be Kate Hudson's brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, truly, it's very exciting.

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 8>Like I didn't know coming through UCB, You're like, Okay,

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people, I think the one to one

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 8>here for doing live sketch is SNL, Like let's I

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 8>loved SNL. I was like, oh, I think I could

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 8>do that because I'm doing it here in a small way.

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 8>I know that's much more difficult, but I think like

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 8>that was sort of once I was doing Monday Nights.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 8>I was like, there's a lot of people, or like,

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 8>this is a way to gun for SNL, so you

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.479
<v Speaker 8>like try that. And I think through you know, throwing

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 8>your hat in the ring every couple years and trying

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 8>to get into a showcase and maybe you'll make it

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 8>to New York and you're like, you know, friends of

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 8>yours are going and they're getting on and you're like,

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 8>this is so cool, Like it was so cool to

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 8>be part of the group that was getting to try

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 8>and I was like, this is crazy that I'm in

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 8>the group that's getting considered. Yeah, but I think, like,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, obviously that's a very tough show to get on,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 8>so you know, but Lorne produced the other two the

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 8>last show I did, which was unbelievable. Like so I

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 8>think you're just you're trying to knock at that door

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 8>and you end up at other doors and you're like

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 8>this is actually better for me or.

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<v Speaker 6>Right for me now or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think you're just kind of it was always

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 8>just sort of like okay, what's the next one year

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 8>or two years, whether that was like by design or

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 8>just self preservation or just sort of like and.

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<v Speaker 6>Support well, yeah, like what you were saying like that.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 5>I think that funny thing is like I always felt

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 5>very supported by everybody in Chicago. It wasn't like fuck you,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 5>you're going to go out there, then fuck you. It

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 5>was like, hey man, we are all here rooting for you. Yeah,

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.239
<v Speaker 5>And and support can mean many things that financial can

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 5>mean emotional, but truthfully, like having people root for you

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 5>while you're trying to do something means everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also because they know you love it. But

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like I'm sitting here.

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<v Speaker 3>Listening to you both, and then I think about how

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>many people we've interviewed on this podcast, and it's so

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 3>like the journey of a performer is so fucking weird

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 3>and fucked up and wild because you love it so

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 3>much and you want it so bad, and it's the

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>most like destabilizing, insecure, like tumultuous career you could seek

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 3>because you're at the whim of somebody wanting you to

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 3>be doing something. You're constantly putting yourself out there. You're

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 3>constantly trying to get in in different ways that you

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>can because you really actually love to perform. And when

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 3>you get that bug or you have that bug, you

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 3>can't explain it to anyone who doesn't have it, how

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 3>much it means to you, you know what I mean? Like,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have that thing where you're like, oh

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>my god, I love this so much and have to

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 3>do this, nobody would ever understand why you would seek

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<v Speaker 3>it out. It's so painful and rejecting, and you know,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 3>complicated and and and but I love when you hear

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>people's drive to do the very thing that a lot

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>of people just are like, I mean, don't you just

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 3>want to get a real job, you know, and have

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>that stability and.

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<v Speaker 1>Its hold on Before we finished this, what do you

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>have acting notes for Scotty?

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>He really means Scotty.

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Scotty No, no, meaning like if you could give that,

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was there anything you would say, Man, if you could

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>let go of this, or if you could add a

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of this? As someone who is you know,

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Kate Hudson looking at would you say you can.

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<v Speaker 6>Just let go more here? Or if you could do

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 6>this we're just two young guys, would.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>To be totally honest and candidate You're like, no, you

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>just can't know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I will think about this for.

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<v Speaker 2>Initial. This is so great. I love this because I'm

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>only going to talk.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 3>About Scotty because I don't really have many initial things

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 3>for Drew.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 2>But Scotty has this thing I have to go.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been so much fun.

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love this. You're gonna love it.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Scotty cares more than people would maybe think he does.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Like and if you saw him out or talk, like,

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>if you didn't know him, you would think he was nonchalant.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>About his craft. But it's the opposite.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>He cares so much about the craft that sometimes you

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>want to be like, you don't have to.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Work so hard right for this? Right now?

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Love it?

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I went on this one.

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>And and with and I think that, like, you know,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Ness his character on this tonally, if he has to

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>walk a line that has been you know, I mean,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I've had everyone has their favorite characters, crazy like people

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I come up to me and they're like, oh, oh god,

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>your brother Sandy's so funny.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Ness is my favorite. Like oh, just

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>like a you know.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Cam, everyone has the person that they connect to so

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 3>so it resonates in it and you did it so well.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the process of doing it, sometimes it it

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>weighs on him and you want to like if I

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<v Speaker 3>was to say the thing that we say to to

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 3>like the siblings, which I think we should do at

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the end of this. But my thing to alleviate for

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 3>him is the pressure he puts on himself to get

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>it right.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I would say, get take I.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Would I would try to alleviate that from him.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow and nothing that.

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 5>Was good?

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because naturally you are so dead on always yeah,

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 8>like it wouldn't ring. Nothing you did would ring untrue

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 8>to me, and then you would be like, fuck, that

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 8>was amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not a mess on set. I'm not saying that

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 6>like you're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a great note to hear because I have

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 5>no defense against that note, and I don't if I'm

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 5>being totally honest, I hear it, I agree with you,

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 5>and I don't know if I necessarily want to change it.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to write well you are.

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<v Speaker 10>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's interesting when I think of performers, which

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 5>is why I love sitting with you and you and

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 5>and talk because you guys, obviously, having grown up in

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 5>the entertainment world, you crossed paths with just you know,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 5>some all timers, and so I'm always curious about that

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm obsessed with process. I'm not one who's gonna sit

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 5>there and pull his fingernails out, because I think you

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 5>have to go through pain or discomfort to get some Actually,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 5>I think the realization I made with the help of

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 5>a acting teacher, Sharon Chatton once, which is it's about

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 5>the let go, it's about the release, it's about the

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 5>relaxation into it. But prior to the let go release

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 5>and relaxation, Yeah, there's consternation and strife for.

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 6>Me, right, Yeah, I think that's interesting.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 8>I think I would note myself similarly. I don't know

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 8>how I come off, but like coming up, I would

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 8>be so intense about memorization and then also so within

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 8>that doing comedy stuff, being like okay, so maybe like

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 8>I've done a ton of improv which you can't think about,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 8>which I love because you just have to throw yourself

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 8>out there and fall down the hill and it either

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 8>goes well or it doesn't. But you're like, you can't

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 8>plan anything. But then when you start to put you know,

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 8>start doing scripted stuff and doing lines and doing you know,

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 8>whether it be sketches or whatever, You're like, you want

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 8>to be loose still, so you kind of like I

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 8>would be super in set, like like a little bit

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 8>too much, a little too intense about the memorization. So

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 8>I wasn't loose at times. So I would be like,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 8>my next line is this, My next line is this?

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 8>Like and then I would also kind of be like, oh,

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 8>if they say that and they improvise that way, I'll

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 8>go that way too.

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 6>So I would have like even.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 8>That were like way too much and I wasn't listening anymore,

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 8>and that would that that like is even though you

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 8>knew you knew the lines, Yeah, I didn't realize that

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 8>when you were Sometimes in a scene.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 6>Letting go is what makes it so good because.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 5>Your background as an improvisers you listen right like as

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 5>an actor, Like day two, I'm looking at him, I'm like,

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 5>oh fuck, he's really listening.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.439
<v Speaker 6>He's not waiting to say.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Which is listening different about well?

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:37.959
<v Speaker 5>People are like, what's it like to work with Kate?

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 5>And what is it the Muppet Babies or Charlie Brown.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 5>But it's like someone the principal's voice comes on and

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 5>goes like.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 6>It was kind of like, do you have any notes

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 6>for Kate?

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll take him.

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I have observations of both of them and

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 5>Drew it was listening. I thought, uh, I, I thought

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 5>your thing was really interesting. I've you know, we've all

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 5>been around now a bit. I thought her thing was wild.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh, I I't seen that thing before,

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 5>which is like take one is finding it, you know,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 5>as as as your wing person in that scene, I'm like, fuck,

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 5>does she know this scene? Are we gonna find this?

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna take eighty eight takes and then it's like

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 5>take two, like and you're like, oh, what the fuck

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 5>is that? That's a different thing, you know, like you

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 5>know having you know, we've all studied it, and but

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah, that was unique and it's great. It's

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 5>organic and it's it's like you know, So that's what

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 5>I love about this job is you know, like if

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 5>you were a doctor and I am medically I've read

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 5>every page of WEMBD so medical License, I would say

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 5>what I like, you know, if you go in, if

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 5>you go in, if you're U Cardiac pedeology, pediatric cardio,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 5>and you went in and and you we were going

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 5>to get into the like you know, a order, and

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 5>I saw him cut the in a weird new way.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 5>I want to be like, oh, this is so interesting

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 5>the way that doctor Drew cuts into the A order.

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 5>For the most part, everyone like within a small err, yeah,

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 5>that procedure is the same, right, that's it's so opposite

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 5>of this man. You go on sets, like every time

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 5>you get to work with someone.

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 6>It's all different.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 5>And then it's wild when like people who have worked

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 5>a lot like you, I'm like, oh, I've never seen

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 5>someone cut like that, and it's wild because the result

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 5>is a result, and and you know, I think it's

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 5>for itself and it's.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think a was great with like, uh, like

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 8>is this in the voice of the character.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 6>And I think like on a sitcom it can.

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 8>Be like joke joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke,

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 8>page joke per minute, like and I think Kate would

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, And I would sometimes, as somebody who like

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 8>performed a lot on stage, I would be like, give

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 8>me as many oaks as I can that I can

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 8>swing from, so I'm not out there being unfunny for

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 8>two lines or whatever. And Kate, Kate did such a

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 8>you were such a good like monitor on like why

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 8>am I saying this?

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 6>Why is he saying that?

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 8>Like that doesn't make sense for the other stuff that

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 8>we've set up for his character, like the joke needs

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 8>to change or it needs to be like more in line.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 8>And I thought that was like super helpful and like

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 8>gave us all like very clear directions. So we all

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 8>just kind of kind of weren't just yelling. The funniest

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 8>thing you could write.

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 6>You're thinking, you're thinking, you're thinking, and.

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 5>My number one on the call sheet is the opposite

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 5>of that. You just just say the fucking jokes so

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 5>we can all get home. Yes, it puts you in

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 5>a bad spot when you're below that, and you're like,

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 5>I will, that's my job, but I think like this

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 5>this should have some investigation. Yeah, and so that's really

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 5>helpful and then you feel taken care of as performance.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>When I read there the script, my biggest concern for

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Kate was just making sure that all the basketball lingos

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>seemed real, because you are a fucking queen here, you

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>know basketball like wrack your fucking hand. And when I

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>watched it, I'm like, oh my god, you're so money

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>with it, because that was my biggest concern was.

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, you have Assassin is such a huge Baskepel and

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Brenda so like Brenda, I could just ask Brenda.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, but even your delivery, it was very easy. It

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>was as if you had said it a thousand times.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh good, because when I was reading the script, I'm like,

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Like Kate's amazing and anything she does,

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>but is she going to be able to is it

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be believable when she's talking shop? Yeah, you

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 5>And it was yeah, rights, yeah, yeah, they're on time.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 5>You know what you're going to say and have an idea, right,

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 5>that's right.

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I love that. That's my favorite thing.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 6>That's the best.

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 3>You said that, and then and it came I think

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 3>we were too. We're all having drinks and you said

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 3>that when we were having drinks at one point, and

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 3>then it came up on my feed.

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not weird like.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 5>The actual click because it's listening. That's why I don't

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 5>like to talk about you thing.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, we could talk about this. I mean, this

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 3>has been a long time. I love you.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 10>Okay, brothers, Yes, we're going to do a rapid fire

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 10>mm hmm.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Ollie, maybe you become the interviewer as show siblings.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, but and then make things up Okay, So.

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you want me to ask them what they

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>think of? Like if I say, okay, it's Kate early

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>bird er, night out both, I mean.

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but what do I prefer.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I am a morning personally in the morning.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 6>Wrong, She's wrong. That's it. That's good game.

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a good game because you want are you your

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>TV brothers will say what they think and then I'll

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>see what I think and see who's who gets more.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I like I if I didn't have kids, I probably

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 3>would be more of a night owl.

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you don't really like it.

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 8>It's like four am, Like you're like, no, you know,

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 8>I like my bed when she was little, She's like

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 8>ready for bed, you know.

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I could have a party and rage by

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>like eleven forty five minute. I'm like, I'm like in bed,

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:31.439
<v Speaker 3>I just let the party.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Go right, big time night out.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. In fact, the last time I was with both

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 5>of you and we were imbibing, you disappeared at eleven.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I stayed out with you.

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It was nine for Kate had a good thirty eight

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>minutes of being hammered and then she's like.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 5>A fucking party, get the poker, and then we're like,

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 5>where's Kate and was like, I'm heading back and I

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh you are, and she's like, well everyone inside,

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 5>like you know, it's petering out. Kate went to bed.

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what do you mean? Kate went to bed.

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 5>It's like nine thirty and you can stay. And I

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 5>just looked over at Oliver, who just looking at me.

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 5>He's like, you can stay as long as you want.

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 6>I want to say, man, this guy wants someone.

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 3>No, but yeah, okay, next sweet, but what we gotta

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 3>do to everybody else?

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 6>Drew the night Scott Scott established sweeter savory.

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh interesting.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 6>It's a Kate is savory? Yeah, I'm no.

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to guess you you're a savory.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and you're I don't know what savory means. You're lying.

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say you're Oh.

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 6>I think he's sweet.

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he's savory because of his drink choices.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 6>He's just sweet drinks.

0:44:58.760 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Are you a sweet?

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say savory, although I want to my gut

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 3>is saying sweet.

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 5>I kind of like them both. Yeah, I mean I'm

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 5>not like sacred about that kind of and your savory.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm savory?

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay a weird.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Use your wonderful ideas. Yeah, just make up for us.

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Bruce Springsteen or the.

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Beatles, don't say what do we say what each other is?

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 6>Right? You're Bruce.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna venture to say. I think everybody in this

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 5>room is Bruce.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody is a Bruce.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 5>No way, I don't know that.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't know that.

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, that's interesting. Oliver is definitely a Beatle.

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm better in a group. I'm Beatle, like.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 5>Bruce or Beetle or do you who would?

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I put on Bruce, but I but I also put

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 3>on the Beatles. I mean, I love that they're the Beatles,

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 3>but but I'd put on Bruce.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 2>It just makes me weepy.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It makes me want to write, yeah.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 5>Bruce makes I looked at Bruce Springsteen as a kid.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 5>I was like, that motherfucker be dead if he wasn't

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 5>doing this, it was this or death. And that was

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 5>like an early flag where I was like I want

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 5>to do something like that. Yeah, and if I could

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 5>do that, I would have, but I cannot.

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 3>So true, and it's just like you just feel his soul.

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 5>And there's and it's it doesn't even matter whether or

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 5>not you like them musically. There's other artists that are

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 5>like that where I don't necessarily like to listen to him.

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't even like what they do. But I'm like,

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 5>it was this or death.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, ready you're going I'm going to ask one for

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 3>everybody to guess. But every theater concert, I mean.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 6>What would you rather go to?

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know yours, you're your concert.

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 6>Your concert, I think you might be.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Theater is musical theater?

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 5>Two?

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and comedy?

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 5>You did love that Moana I put on my garage

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 5>for you. It wasn't I did a one man show

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 5>of concert. For sure.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 6>I would like to see music where the seats are

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 6>laid out. You know what I mean.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.439
<v Speaker 2>You're a theater guy. I feel like you like more

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 2>stage things.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 6>Like I do.

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 8>I do like stage stuff for sure, but I also like,

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 8>I love music, and I probably know more about music

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 8>than I do theater.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:30.919
<v Speaker 5>What about?

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 6>What about?

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>What about this one's it's three Amigos or Annie Hall?

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh three amigos Because I'm only saying that because yes,

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the movies, but it sort of dictates like.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 6>It totally imprinted on me in a way.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 6>Three amigos looked at all.

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Intellectually as I got to be an adult.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>And you're older.

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>But three megos like yeah, three yeah, three of me

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 3>gooes like I know all the line.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like when people talk about your influences and of

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<v Speaker 5>course you want to say like it's Brando or something

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<v Speaker 5>like you just gotta get real. And I remember Trey Anastagio,

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<v Speaker 5>the lead singer Fish Guitars.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just with him like a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, we're gonna I gotta hear about that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I forgot about it. I was like, I amazing

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the time. I literally it was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. Scotty, Scotty was here.

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<v Speaker 6>He talks about there.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a documentary, Bittersweet Motel made about them, made

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<v Speaker 5>by the guy who made Joker Phillips, and Trey's talking

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<v Speaker 5>about He's sitting in the front seat his station wag.

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<v Speaker 5>He's talking about the influences of Fish. He's talking about

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<v Speaker 5>being a mall kid growing up in the seventies, like

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<v Speaker 5>hanging out the malls and like the music that influenced

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<v Speaker 5>him was The Grateful Dead. But it was also like

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<v Speaker 5>weird eighties, like you know, Divo and shit, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that kind of truth that he had, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>of course you want to sit there being like my

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<v Speaker 5>influences are cold trained you see it. No, He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>it was Devo, it was the dead, it was all

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<v Speaker 5>and so three of me makes me think, yeah, all

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<v Speaker 5>that right, one of the most influentials of your life

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<v Speaker 5>real quick, as fast as you can think about.

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<v Speaker 6>It, I can major league, Yes, major league, like that major.

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<v Speaker 10>Rocky rock Clueless, okay, clueless, okay too far?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh, my favorite one ever?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh my gosh, some babysitting Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters like that just

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<v Speaker 9>et No, oh my god, last rapid fire.

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<v Speaker 5>Spoon or fork. That's exactly how I would have thought

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<v Speaker 5>it broke for I'm serious. I used to so, I

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<v Speaker 5>used to Tony Robbins, rapid fire for the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>your life. You can only use one, Yeah, you get

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 5>one utensive paper plastic? Yeah, well paper paper kind of

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<v Speaker 5>maniac would say plastic.

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<v Speaker 6>At this point I was thinking about it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>changed my paper.

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<v Speaker 2>What did Tony Robins say?

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<v Speaker 6>You rapid fire?

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody gets them out of their ability to like think

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<v Speaker 5>about how am I going to come off and say this?

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<v Speaker 5>You start doing. So those are the things spoon or

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<v Speaker 5>for orange orangea cat or dog, and people have to

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<v Speaker 5>go boom boom boom.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is always if there's one thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>could alleviate from that person to make their life eat

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<v Speaker 3>better or easier, what would that be? And then if

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<v Speaker 3>there's one thing you could emulate, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 2>To take toilf that you wish.

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<v Speaker 1>You had more.

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to say like what I said for

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<v Speaker 3>Scotty to begin with, which was you know, just not

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<v Speaker 3>having to you know, is your.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing almost applicable to my life, not just my work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, were saying earlier you were talking about my work.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's also how you feel about Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the one thing that I wish I had

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit more going to be I had

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<v Speaker 3>more of Gootti. I think that one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I wish I had more of that you have

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<v Speaker 3>is like what Olliver has, which is you have like

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<v Speaker 3>a dedication to your kids where you just will.

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<v Speaker 2>Drive to the end of the earth's for them. I

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<v Speaker 2>will not.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not sit outside in Marvista for five hours

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<v Speaker 3>while my kids are playing a game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>I will, but but there's a certain type of character

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<v Speaker 3>that will just always like go to the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the earth for their kids. And that's something I admire

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<v Speaker 3>by you. You true my favorite human, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess right in front of you, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess The one thing is that I guess I would

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<v Speaker 3>sort of what would relieve for you is any question

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<v Speaker 3>that you're not exactly where you're supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 3>your life, like that you are exactly where you're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be, that you don't need to overthink any of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And and again the whimsical part of it, just being

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<v Speaker 3>present and enjoying the things that you have in the

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<v Speaker 3>moment and not thinking you would alleviate. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing that Yes, it's like I would give

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<v Speaker 3>him more of, like feeling like present in the situations

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<v Speaker 3>that he's in his whole thing with bringing more whimsy

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<v Speaker 3>and whimsical into his life, which I think you've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing a lot more of.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Well, that's what I was gonna say about you,

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.919
<v Speaker 8>is like I would want some of your whimsy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>being in the present, I forecast a lot I'm living

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<v Speaker 8>in the future or I'm living in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>You are very good at being right there.

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<v Speaker 8>In the moment and your yeah, whimsical, mischievous, payful like

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<v Speaker 8>I have those, but I catch glimpses of them and.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd give you more fox fox animal energy.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, like I'm less beaver, I'm less like building house,

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 8>kind of like walking with sticks.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I would want to emulate your like I

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<v Speaker 3>like your ability to your quick wittedness, like your ability

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<v Speaker 3>to to to always be like wonderful and pleasant and

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<v Speaker 3>kind in a room, but also like just make everyone

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<v Speaker 3>laugh because you just have this quick witted brain that

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<v Speaker 3>can it's like writing on the spot. But your humor

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 3>is so like like even you could you could probably

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<v Speaker 3>say the nastiest thing and it would just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a teddy bear, like a warm like hug or like

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<v Speaker 3>a blanket. You're like, oh my god, you just completely,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, assassinated my character in a funny way,

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<v Speaker 3>and it feels like.

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<v Speaker 6>Love all that at work, and then he's mean to

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<v Speaker 6>us at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, you are just like you're you are maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>funniest human, but you're also the most loving and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wish I could have a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more of that like brain, that kind of brain, that whit.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's nice, really nice. Yeah, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you guys. This is this is too much fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully we'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Four part episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeahm mmmmmmmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you guys. This is this is too much fun.