1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I' ho come to 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: stuff one never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio And 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: today welcome to another sub sub sub sub sub sub segment, 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: Fictional women around the World. Yes, and for this one, 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: shout out to my friend Katie, who has been on 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: the show, because today we are talking about one of 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: her favorite characters from one of her very favorite shows, 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Tina Belcher from the ongoing animated comedy Bob's Burgers. Of course, 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: I actually had to check that we hadn't already done this. 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of gotten woven in a 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: couple of times we have not covered her. Also, I 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: haven't told Katie I'm doing this episode because I'm worried 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her down. Oh yes, I'm sure you 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: would never. I'm gonna do my best because I have 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: not seen it. I've only seen a handful of episodes 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: through Katie. I will say before we get into this, 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: you can go see or hear more accurately the savorite 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: episode we did on the food of Bob's Burgers, and 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: that has a more general history of the show and 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: also of course delves into the wonderful food puns because 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: there is a food pun in every episode at least one. 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: So yes, even though I haven't seen a show, I 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: am very familiar with it because of my friend Katie. 24 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: It is her comfort show. She calls it her Bob's 25 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: and through her, I have now gone to not one, 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: but two Bob's Burgers drag Brunches. Dressed as Tina. She 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: told us we were dressing as Tina. So we all 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: dressed as Tina, our whole crew. There's probably like eight 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: to ten of us. We were a table of Tinas. 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: That's what they called us. This time. We up the game. 31 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: The second time, which happened like a couple of weeks ago, 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: we really upped the game too, Like got the costume 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: down pat more and she Katie gave me like super 34 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: cartoony glasses. I loved them and I looked right. Yes, yes, fantastic. 35 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: We had the burrett, we had the whole thing. We 36 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: looked good. We looked good, and we got a lot 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: of like looks and comments while we were walking around 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: as a group of like ten people dressed the same way. 39 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: It's fantastic anyway, Okay, So Tina is the oldest child 40 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: of Bob and Linda, Belcher and Bob and Linda run 41 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a restaurant called Bob's Burgers with their family. She's the 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: older sibling of Gene and Louise. She is perpetually thirteen 43 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: and in eighth grade, just the way kind of cartoons 44 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: always stay in that one state. You know. She's awkward 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: but owns it. She's romantic. She likes butts and writing 46 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: erotic fiction and what she calls friend of fiction, which 47 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: is fan fiction the friends in it, yeah, sometimes about 48 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: her own life. Her primary crush is Jimmy Pesto Junior, 49 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: which is fun because Jimmy Pesto is her father's enemy. 50 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: But she goes through a lot of crushes, including with 51 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: a goose and a ghost, the members of her favorite band, 52 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Boys for Now, a band she is Boys for Now, 53 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: which is she's also in the fan club and I 54 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: believe the secretary of the fan club. The character is 55 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: voiced by Dan Mintz and very The lines are delivered 56 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: very flat and monotoned, typically, and she does have a 57 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: pretty iconic look. She's got a black bob haircut, thick 58 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: black glasses, a light blue T shirt, dark blue skirt, 59 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: red striped white sox, and black high top. Shoes, and yes, 60 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: the yellow Brett. This show is going on like its 61 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: sixteenth season, so obviously we cannot cover all the shenanigans 62 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: that Tina gets up to. Also, it's like this is 63 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: kind of different than any other one I've ever done, 64 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: because it's not there's not like an overarching plot, Like 65 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: there are plot lines that continue in plot lines that 66 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: continue over multiple episodes, but generally every episode is kind 67 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: of a twenty minute ish contained adventure, and there is 68 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: character growth and development, but it's not like I can 69 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: give you the here's the moment where this happened, and 70 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: this happened, but we all try to hit on some 71 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: cu character points. So very basically, if you don't know, 72 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the show follows the Belchers and their friends and enemies 73 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: as they navigate their lives and relationships. There are, yes, 74 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of food puns involved, and the vibe is 75 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: generally very funny, heartfelt sweet because Tina is at that 76 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: messy adolescent age. She retains some of her innocent childhood 77 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: loves like rainbows and horses, while also entering a phase 78 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: of thinking about boys and sex and butts and also 79 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: like ankles and stuff, like she's she's into stuff Okay, yeah. 80 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: A lot of her plotlines do involve her getting into 81 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: trouble while chasing after a crush. Since she's very awkward 82 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: as well, her efforts can be pretty funny but also 83 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: very endearing. It's it's much more of a we're laughing 84 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: with her than laughing at her situation. She has a 85 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: very strong sense of right and wrong, which can be 86 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: a big driver for her character. As the oldest child, 87 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: she sometimes acts as almost the third parent caring for 88 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: her siblings, and it's usually kind of it seems like 89 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: she knows more about her siblings than her parents do, 90 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: which I think is the case for a lot of people. 91 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: She's genuinely pretty confident in herself too. She does have 92 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: moments of doubt, but she's generally pretty confident, so sometimes 93 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: she learns lessons around holding on to that confidence in episodes. 94 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: For example, once she caved to peer pressure and shaved 95 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: her legs and then later regretted it, feeling that she 96 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: did it for the wrong reasons, not because she wanted to, 97 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: because people told her she had to. She calls herself 98 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: a smart, strong, sensual woman. Tina is close with her 99 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: family members, and their relationships are the heart of the show, 100 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I would say as the oldest, her dad bob off 101 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: and wants her to experience rites of passages, our rituals 102 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: from his own childhood. When she helps out at the restaurant, 103 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: she's the only one he trusts with flipping the burgers, 104 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: though he does not trust her with customer service. Both 105 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: her care always big on TikTok. Really, yeah, the whole 106 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: autistic she's autistic. No, I'm not. Yes, sure count the toothpicks. Yeah, yes, 107 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I almost went into that because I was like, there's 108 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: a whole section about that in her character biography, and 109 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is too much, too unpack 110 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: for me. But yes, that is a whole conversation about 111 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: autism versus is she just awkward? But she does have 112 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: a lot of like she has a lot of things uh. 113 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Or she like groans when she gets really nervous or anxious. Uh, 114 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: she like shuts down certain cases, she hides under tables. 115 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of stuff people have been talking 116 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: about with their character. But yes, that is a quote. 117 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: That is a thing that happened in the show. So 118 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: both her parents do experience sadness about Tina growing up. Linda, 119 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: her mom, sometimes embarrasses Tina, but is very very supportive 120 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: of her, including her crushes, barring Jimmy Pesto Junior. She 121 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: thinks she can do better than Jimmy Pesto Junior obviously, 122 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: and is very protective of Tina. It seems that while 123 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: all the siblings do hang out, it's usually more Gene 124 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: and Louise getting into trouble, with Gene occasionally siding with 125 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Tina if Louise has gone too far. If you don't know, 126 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Louise is like the chaos agent. So, but they do 127 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: all hang out, like even though their ages are I 128 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: believe Louise is four years younger than Tina, they still 129 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: hang out at school. Tina likes sharing her interest with Louise, 130 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: who is very good at manipulating Tina. Tina often acts 131 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: as Louise is conscious, however, and teaches her like important 132 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: lessons this is why you shouldn't do this to someone 133 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: type thing. Yes, yes, and she does have she does 134 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: have a friend group. She's got like a frenemy Tammy, 135 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: and she has like a funny line somewhere about like 136 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: this is my only chance at a peer group. So 137 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: she has a friend group. But I feel like in 138 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: the show, her family dynamic is more important. But yeah, 139 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: she is a very popular character. Here is a quote 140 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: from The Artifice, an article by Priyanka Prasade titled the 141 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Significance of Tina to Bob's Burger's. Tina's comedy largely stems 142 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: from the fact that she remarks about so not often 143 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: broached by thirteen year old girls on television. She is 144 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: unashamed about her sexuality. She often fantasizes about boys butts, 145 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: and writes erotic friend fiction about her crush Jimmy Junior. 146 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Her obsession with boys is not completely naive or innocent. Instead, 147 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: it translates into bizarre scenarios. She dreams about zombies making 148 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: out with each other, and of an island where she 149 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: can kiss as many boys as she wants. The show 150 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: unapologetically delves into what being a thirteen year old girl 151 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: really feels like, despite how occasionally odd and uncomfortable it 152 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: may be. Tina is socially awkward and quirky and at 153 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: times inappropriate, but always utterly unafraid to be herself. This 154 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of when we did Turning Red. 155 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking of that too as our feminist Maybe 156 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: friday yev kind of the examination of that stage where 157 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: you've got your crushes and you're you're still young, but 158 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: you're also starting to experience like, ooh, let me withdraw 159 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: this a kind of erotic picture of my crush. And 160 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: we have as a society, we've been very uncomfortable with it. 161 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: We don't talk about it, and that's why it does 162 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: stand out when there is a character like this. And 163 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. Apparently in the Unaired pilot, 164 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: she was originally going to be a boy, and they 165 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: kept some of the lines despite the change. So here's 166 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: another quote from the Artifice. For example, her very first 167 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: line in the pilot is that her crotch is itchy, 168 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: A joke that is funny, though overdone for a teenage boy, 169 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: suddenly becomes unconventional, slightly shocking, and even funnier when written 170 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: for a teenage girl. I agree. And another thing, as 171 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: I said, it's very much a lie being with her, 172 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: not at her situation. The whole show is kind of 173 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: like that, not just this character, but the importance of 174 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: her family celebrating who she is. Her likes her fan fiction, 175 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: which I believe they get her to read in one episode, 176 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: like they're celebrating it, and they're supporting her. There's like 177 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: one I have seen that episode where her dad, like 178 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: inful traits a basically kind of a broney scenario, like 179 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: my little pony scenario to get her a toy that 180 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: she really wants because I guess she wasn't allowed. But 181 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: they celebrate all those aspects of her. And when I 182 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: was reading about it, I saw that a lot of 183 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: people wrote about how multifaceted she is. She's not just 184 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: a one dimensional stereotypical teenage girl that we often see 185 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: on TV, and that she's really heartfelt. She's a really 186 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: heartfelt character, and we can all relate to the awkwardness 187 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: of puberty, which is where she perpetually is. Yeah, she's 188 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: often kind of the heart of the show. She has 189 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: the like emotional this is why we'd treat people nicely. 190 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: And I can say from personal experience it's the character 191 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: is certainly a hit at drag Brunch, and not just us. 192 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Other people were dressed as er as well a lot 193 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: of other people. And her character is the second to 194 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: last one to perform, which I think, you know, you 195 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: saved the best for last. I think that says something 196 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: about about how popular Tina is. Well, I hope Katie. 197 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: If you listen to this I did a justice. 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