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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 3: So this is a gentleman that I loved dearly and

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Speaker 3: It is Gary Wolf Pitbull number Yes.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Anthony was two.

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Speaker 2: The one Come on? How did you watch that off.

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Speaker 3: You're well, you're number one with me. That's what I

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Speaker 4: Okay, And I see your shirts behind you. Look at him.

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Speaker 4: I hook everybody up. I try.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a funny story because me and Anthony

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Speaker 2: I used to watch wrestling every Saturday with my grandpa.

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Speaker 4: Did you want to be a wrestler?

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Speaker 3: doing it? What changes in your mind that says, Okay,

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Speaker 3: because Anthony went and you? He just said, let me

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Speaker 2: Well, we were both talking about it, like honestly, we

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Speaker 2: Right there, he got pissed man and booth. He hit

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Speaker 2: But I had to coming to me, so it was Okay.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were all and before all this was

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Speaker 2: So Rick Flair and yeah, I I know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: All these weapons. I'm like, you know, because those guys

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Speaker 2: in the first match built, yeah, which people don't do anymore.

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Speaker 2: I remember. I remember Rick Flair and Abbey told me

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Speaker 2: Anthony about five hundred thousand dollars worth of Rolex watches

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Speaker 2: and diamonds. Okay, and they just said watch our ship.

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Speaker 2: I said, I said, no problem. Yeah, I said, no problem.

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Speaker 4: Wait, and then no one ever saw Gary or Anthony again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean then, you know, that's when Rick

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Speaker 2: So he went to North Carolina to work. But like

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even remember the conversation he had

435
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: to tell me about. But in the meantime, Like I said,

436
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: Tokyo Joe came down and said, look, you guys are

437
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: like at that time our TV was starting, we were

438
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: starting to lose TV down South. So we had a

439
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: couple of years we were working six nights a week.

440
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: He got down to like four nights a week, two

441
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: nights a week, and it's like, okay, I can't live

442
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: here no more. So he went back to Philly. And

443
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: then that's when Tokyo Joe came to Philly with the

444
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: contract and grabbed us. So you figure, I said, okay,

445
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: I'll do. I'll do. You're paying twenty five times a

446
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: year and then the rest of the time. Then me

447
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: and Anthony signed with Todd Gordon free he went back.

448
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: What happened was I was home with a knee injury.

449
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: Anthony went to Germany to work for Otto, and I

450
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 2: called up saying and said, look, you know my knees better.

451
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: I want to go back. I want to start working.

452
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: I didn't know you guys had TV. Fuck, let's go.

453
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: So Todd said, come on down. Hack opened the door

454
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: for me. That's when Gilbert Eddie was just out of

455
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: there and Todd and Paul was just coming.

456
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: Back in that's when I started in ninety three and that.

457
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: Look, I think you were with us the first team, right, I.

458
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: Know I started with Stevie.

459
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, you started at that angle with Stevie. Yeah.

460
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: I started with Stevie and then left Stevie for.

461
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: For you because you thought you were upgrading.

462
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: I had no clue what was going on.

463
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: They were just like, show up, come here, and I

464
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: said okay, And I just would always say who am

465
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: I going to be with? Because I always wanted to match,

466
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: you know, But my worst gimmick was with you guys.

467
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 4: Because I hated the pleather. I hated it. It was

468
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable. But I loved you.

469
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: But I just I was so like, if I look

470
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: at pictures back then, I'm like, whoa, that is not me.

471
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: This is not you.

472
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you all I remember you. Always just you're like, yeah,

473
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: can I wear something else?

474
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: No?

475
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, No.

476
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: It was fine. Look, I just wanted to work, you know.

477
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: That's that's all I wanted to do. I wanted to work.

478
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: Do you remember the night we put you through the table. Yes,

479
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: and we were the first tag team. Just let your

480
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: co hosts know there the first tag ting you ever

481
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: put a woman through the table. I never remember it.

482
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: Remember it, well, I'm the first woman never go through

483
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 4: a table. Yes you are, yes, so we share it first.

484
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: And you were crying, so.

485
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: That literal fears. I was just very nervous.

486
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I told you, I said, don't worry about it.

487
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: Anthony will take care. We'll take care.

488
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Well yeah, okay, yeah, I I just in my mind

489
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: I told this story before. I had no idea that

490
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: I was going to end up with Shane. I thought

491
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: I was going to end up with Brian Lee because

492
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: Brian kept telling me the whole time, you're coming with me,

493
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: You're coming with me. He was pitching to Paul for

494
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: whatever reason. I don't know why, but he just kept saying,

495
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: you're going to end up with me, and I said, great,

496
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm going from pleathor the chaps, Like this is like

497
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: not me. So, but we're doing all these angles with

498
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Shane and it's not registering because I just have Brian

499
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: in my ear and I'm saying to myself, well, what

500
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: is this is this angle?

501
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 4: Just are we just gonna get rid of this?

502
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: And then I just automatically know Brian, like I had

503
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: no idea, but like Paul had told me I wasn't

504
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: going to be with you guys for the long run.

505
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: So I knew my time with you was going to

506
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: be short. I just didn't I didn't know where I.

507
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: Was going to end up. But no, go ahead, go

508
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: ahead that that I mean.

509
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 2: That's like us, like we were gonna go to events.

510
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: We didn't know they were gonna put Terry Reynolds with us.

511
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: She was going to actually imagine that.

512
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: That would have been interesting, That would have been interesting.

513
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: That would have been crazy.

514
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: But let's let's talk about that that angle, because.

515
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: Shane and I had so much heat working against you

516
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: after the neck thing. Yeah, we know Shane's side of

517
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: the story. You've told your side of the story. Do

518
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: you feel I know, you have to know that it

519
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: wasn't intentional?

520
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely honestly. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. Uh.

521
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: You got to remember, Shane had a crazy match right

522
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: before that spot. He got knocked He got knocked out

523
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: in that match. He was unconscious at one time. Uh,

524
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: we both kind of messed up that spot. I'm gonna

525
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I took the bump wrong. I

526
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: should have took it. I should have took a flat

527
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: face butt instead of a ddt. Okay, but the way

528
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: he was supposed to land, and he was supposed to

529
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: actually land on his ass, but his elbow was kind

530
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: of behind my head, so it was forcing my head down.

531
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: Okay, so it was kind of.

532
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: A boat like, we both kind of. I take most

533
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: of the blame because my right arm I just had

534
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: surgery on my bicep and I got it reattached, so

535
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: really isn't that strong yet, So I only was able

536
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: to block it with my knee and pretty much my neck,

537
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: you know. And I did hit the belt dead on,

538
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: you know. So all I heard was dead in a crack,

539
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: and my gosh, I was unconscious, and I rolled over.

540
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: I've seen white, and I just laid there and I

541
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: wiggled my fingers, I wiggled my toes. I said, well,

542
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not dead. So I rolled out of

543
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: the ring. But I had no idea I broke my neck.

544
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: I thought I jammed it. I've never hurt my neck.

545
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that. You know that.

546
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: That And then you know when we did the gimmick

547
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: where we had the.

548
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: Uh you know, you you threw the.

549
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: Tail and he grabs you and we do the gimmick

550
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: like this the people crazy. That was one of the

551
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: scariest moments I think ever, because now I took a bump,

552
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: so I'm selling. I'm selling right now, Gary selling, And

553
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: all I know is Shane grabs me.

554
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 4: And I can't get my footing and he's.

555
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: Dragging me and my feet are dragging and he's got

556
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: me under my armpits and I could not get I

557
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: couldn't get to where I can walk. But people were

558
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: literally throwing punches at us over the guardrail.

559
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: People jumped over the guard rail.

560
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: And they did.

561
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: We had a swarm of people around us, like we

562
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: were two people in a cocoon of security and workers

563
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: and just everybody. And I just remember being drug. I

564
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: couldn't breathe, and I'm trying to sell obviously, you know

565
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: when I said, this is turning into a shoot because

566
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: I can't freak and breathe and I can't walk right now,

567
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: and I can't see, and it was like the white

568
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: noise at one point, you know, when you get that.

569
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: It was so scary.

570
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: And I just remember looking at you laying there and

571
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh my god, I think we have

572
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: a winner here.

573
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: But I'm scared it done.

574
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: No, I couldn't. I was laying there because I remember

575
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: I was still in the halo, so I couldn't. I

576
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: couldn't look and see. All I seen was shadows around me.

577
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this don't even sound right.

578
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: Something's so crazy.

579
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: And I just remember, and my heart broke for you,

580
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: number one, because I genuinely loved you as a person,

581
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: and I knew like this hinders your career obviously, right,

582
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: but watching Gary sit in the back was the most

583
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: heartbreaking thing because it was just like, you know, you

584
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: had no life to you at this point.

585
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: Well yeah, if you remember Paul, this is what Paul said.

586
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: He said, listen, you're not a pit bull no more.

587
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: You are now Gary Woolf. That's it. And that's how

588
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: because when I pitched. So you gotta remember, they didn't

589
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: want to do any of this, Okay. I had to

590
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: go to Todd Gordon's office and say, look, I talked

591
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: to the doctor. I broke my neck. Okay, it's gonna

592
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: heel in six weeks. I said, then I need to

593
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: get rehabilitated. So he told me about six months. So

594
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: I took eight. Anyway, I took eight. I took an

595
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: extra two months anyway, and then Uh, Todd Gordon's like,

596
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: hell up because at that time I'm not gonna lie.

597
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: They all thought that I was going to probably sue

598
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: the company or something, which I wasn't gonna do. That

599
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: was never any or something like that. Never. I mean,

600
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: I had warriors banging on my door like crazy when

601
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: I was in the hospital. Ridiculous because Todd Gordon and

602
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: Steve he came to see me, you know, they couldn't

603
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: believe it. And uh, because I broke my neck on

604
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: a Saturday, I didn't know it was broke till Monday.

605
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: That's when I went to the hospital. So I just sneezed.

606
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: I would have been done. Oh my god. So God

607
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: was looking after me at that point. But like I said,

608
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: Todd said no way. Paul said no way, of course.

609
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: So I had to give him like a week or

610
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: two to let him think about it. And I came

611
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: back again and I said, look, man, look at Bruno

612
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: Sam Martino's angle back in the day and w w

613
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: F when he broke his neck with Stan Hansen. I said, look,

614
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: how over that guy. I said, let's do something. Look

615
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: at Magna when he got in the car accident. I said,

616
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: everything happens, you know what I mean. I said, look,

617
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: it's a tragedy. It happened. It sucks, but I'm okay,

618
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: so I'm ready to go back to work. Let's do it.

619
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: And then that's when we started. And I can see

620
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: your face when you were doing those promos. Machine, Oh

621
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: they were brutal. Man.

622
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: I hated it. I hated it, like talk about Jerry's kids.

623
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't do that.

624
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the help.

625
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: I have to do it.

626
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not saying it, I'm not

627
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: doing it. And she's like, put the pencil in your

628
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: bail that you just signed to check it.

629
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm like going to hell.

630
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Awful, awful, But I like, you know, as a shoot,

631
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: it broke my heart to see you hurt, Like I

632
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: hate it.

633
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: I hated it. But the angle was great.

634
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: The angle elevated all of us to like this different level.

635
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh my, I mean honestly, I mean, Shane was a

636
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: great heel anyway, but that put the icing on the top.

637
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that was the cherry on top that he

638
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 2: needed to get where he had to go. I mean

639
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: that night, that night when you dropped that skirt and

640
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: had the franchises gimmick on your ass. Yeah, that was

641
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, and then throwing me down. Nobody had that

642
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 2: kind of heat in the seat. I mean, look at

643
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: all those great angles that been through ECW. Great angle

644
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: you got Shane, I mean, you got a Raven with

645
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Tommy Dreamer, you got Sadman or I mean all these,

646
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, with Raven getting crucified. Our our angle still

647
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: was the best and biggest angle I think. Yeah.

648
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Let me say as a fan, I mean, and you know,

649
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I do show with Shane, I do the show with Francine.

650
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I've heard them talk about it a million times and

651
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: the intensity and I've gone back and watched it, and

652
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: it's I mean, there there couldnt be any more of

653
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: a believable angle in the history of wrestl than that one.

654
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: And that night that you get thrown down, it is

655
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's intense to watch still to this day

656
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: as a fan back then and now, I mean, it's

657
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: got to be up there as one of the best ever.

658
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: So you guys did great.

659
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean then, like our first pay per view, you know,

660
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: I was getting ready in my mind because I was

661
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: already back and I was doing Shane all over. I mean,

662
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: we were doing the Loop and I was working Shane.

663
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: So I figured, okay, pay per view time, they're gonna

664
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: have me and Shane. Since we've been doing the Loop together.

665
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: I figured it was going to be down. And then

666
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: that's when Paul said, now I'm gonna save it because

667
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: I want to get one more I quit match out

668
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: of it, and I was just like, well, that's yours.

669
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't block, I can't argue with the

670
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: book er, I can't do it. So he's like, I'm

671
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: gonna have Anthony Wressell Hammett and You're going to be

672
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: in the crowd just to do something and then jump them.

673
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: You know. So we should have ended it right there

674
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: at that pay per view match, because, like I said,

675
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: we were preparing ourselves for it because we worked in

676
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: every single town we were in. Me and him. Now,

677
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: at that point, we were doing good stuff, cartwheel stuff.

678
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: You know when you go for the tombstone you flip

679
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: it back. Yeah, we were doing great ship. So we

680
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: were both talking, man, this paper is gonna be awesome.

681
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: We're gonna kill We're gonna kill this fucking match, you know,

682
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: because it's got so much heat. Yeah, and then like

683
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 5: I said, last minute, he's like he was pushing Anthony

684
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: at that time, which is fine because they gave Aunt

685
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: the TV belt too. So we're the only tag team

686
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: actually that had both TV titles and.

687
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: The tag titles, right, which was cool, you know because

688
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: we we we you know, Francine Paul wouldn't let us

689
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: do our promos because you know, one take and we

690
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: were out. Yeah, you know, so he keep to stay

691
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: along some nights, but most yeah, you know, we were

692
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: there till four o'clock in the morning sometime.

693
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do know that.

694
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things was way after a CW

695
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: when we did the hardcore what was Shane's gimmit called

696
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: the tour, We did hardcore.

697
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: Homecoming, Homecoming. Ye.

698
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: That's so.

699
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: We work with Gary one night, Chad and Edward in Pittsburgh.

700
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: We're baby faces, right because that because Shane wanted you know,

701
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: Shane is a baby face in Pittsburgh.

702
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: He never wanted to be a heeling.

703
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: But we went over this before and there's this old lady,

704
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: remember the old lady in the front row.

705
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: Shane sent me up that night. That was a setup.

706
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: There is this old lady and we come out and

707
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: she is just in love with Shane and I and

708
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: she's just.

709
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: Kissing him and hugging me and everything.

710
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: And Gary comes out and she's just cursing Gary out right.

711
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 4: She's old. This bitch is.

712
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: Old, right, I called I got man.

713
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: She punched Gary.

714
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: Jesus, So listen to this. He's not telling you everything.

715
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: She was Shane Douglass's baby hit her when he was

716
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: a kid. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm calling this. I'm like,

717
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: shut up, you bitch, you old bitch. Shut up. So

718
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: I got out of the ring and I remember fran

719
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Scene was standing near me and she snailed me with

720
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: a shot and I couldn't do anything but sell it.

721
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how good she hit me. So I

722
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: remember falling back, rolling over on my head and all

723
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: I hear is France seemed laughing her freaking ass off.

724
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: I got to sell it, Gary, sell it.

725
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm on the grail, grabbing my head, crying like a bitch, saying,

726
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: throw her out.

727
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: Throw her.

728
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: Come to find end when I go in the back

729
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: because everybody was laughing, Shane was dying. I'm like, bro,

730
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: who is that? He's like that was my fucking babysitter,

731
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: I said.

732
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Well that was fun, that was

733
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: that was great.

734
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that played went crazy for that spot that night.

735
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Any any chance we got to

736
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: work together was a good time.

737
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: So rematches to this day, you guys have rematches all

738
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: the time, you know, and the feud continues. So whether

739
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: or not you didn't get that big ball off on,

740
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, on the pay per view, you guys are

741
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: still having the you know, the dog collar matches and

742
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: the cage matches, and I think, weren't you supposed to

743
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: to have a match earlier this year? I mean, you continues,

744
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: you know.

745
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we honestly a lot of promoters to call

746
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: us and they want us to do a match together.

747
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 4: So I to work with you guys again.

748
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, honestly, we could do it with

749
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: our eyes closed. We don't even have to look at

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: each other. We don't even have to talk about it.

751
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so it's so easy. I mean, I

752
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: good locker rooms today and I sit there and I

753
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 2: see guys going over a three minute match and they're

754
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: talking for a freaking hour. You know, what I started

755
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: doing is whoever, I'm working like I was in Canada

756
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: and I had a work Angel from the ball these

757
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: and all these guys are talking about all these spots

758
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: and Angel came up to me and he's like, what

759
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: are we doing? Boss? You know what are we doing?

760
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: You know you're the veteran, so I'm gonna listen to

761
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: you and we'd always does that too, And I'm like,

762
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: will you stop, you know? And uh, I'm like, just

763
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: sit down, sit right here and listen to this shit. Please.

764
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: We're literally listening to all these freaking spots. And he's like, Okay,

765
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? I said, We're not doing nothing,

766
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: not that shit. Put it that way, forget about.

767
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: It, because everybody has to get their shit in.

768
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: You know this, I know, but you don't have to

769
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: if you know how to work.

770
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: I know these kids today they want to get everything

771
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: they possibly can in and just you know, kill themselves.

772
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: They don't they don't have no psychology. I mean, I

773
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: went to a show in Atlantic City that night we

774
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: did the autograph signing on the I went to that

775
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: show and there mustle like I've seen one match with

776
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: like twenty he finishes in one match, and I'm like,

777
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: these guys are getting off after devastating moves and still

778
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: working where I would have already been one, two three done.

779
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It doesn't mean they don't

780
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: have no psychology whatsoever. They think if they could flip

781
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: flop and do a moon soal, that makes them a wrestler,

782
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: and that does not make you a wrestler. Makes you

783
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: a good athlete, but it doesn't make you a wrestler.

784
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Right Well, we have our memories to cherish and our

785
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: legacy will live on forever.

786
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: You don't care what anyone says. Tell everybody where they

787
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: can find you these days.

788
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on Facebook, just Gary Wolf. Also I'm ECW

789
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: Legend the pit Bulls Mad Dogs of War. It's another

790
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: site I have. You can go to. Anybody looking for

791
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: t shirts or eight y tens or pictures. You can

792
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: hit me up Pitbull six seven GW at gmail dot com.

793
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: Okay, and what's your Twitter? Twitter?

794
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: I got a Twitter. I don't even know it yet.

795
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: It's under Gary Wolf. Sorry, that's all right.

796
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: Well, we follow each other on Twitter. If I can

797
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: help you off, tweet that and maybe get you some I'm.

798
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: Still learning the Twitter thing. You know. I know you've

799
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: been there. I know for.

800
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: Two years now. Little I got in late in the game.

801
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: I should have I should have been one here for

802
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: ten years. I was like, we didn't want nothing to tweet.

803
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: Ten years ago I was changing diapers. Who wants to diapers?

804
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to hear that.

805
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I got it in front of me. It's it's at

806
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Gary w O one five six six two two three

807
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: four two. You got you gotta get you gotta help

808
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: you change that one.

809
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: You know who did that for me?

810
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: Candy?

811
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: No, justin incredible. Why would he put.

812
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: All those numbers?

813
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: It must be when you sign up like that's the

814
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: generic one. They take your first name, your last name,

815
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: and they just throw a bunch of noney so it

816
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't roll off the tongue. But you know it works.

817
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: You need to fix that a sap because that is

818
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: a harm.

819
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: I need some of your boys. Experience will help you.

820
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: We'll have always if you need it.

821
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna you know, honey.

822
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope next year we could hook up

823
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: and do some stuff together.

824
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 4: I love it when all of us come together, so

825
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: it's so fun. It's it's just you remember.

826
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: Too, Franny. There's not many of us left. Man, that's

827
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: what sucks more than anything, you know.

828
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: No, but those of us that are left are very reliable, as.

829
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: I love everybody.

830
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we're a very good group. So if

831
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: I hear of anything, I will keep you in the

832
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: loop as well. And just thank you for for everything,

833
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, taking me under your wing in the beginning,

834
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: and just.

835
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: I cherished working with you. I had a great time.

836
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: I I enjoyed it. We had good times at Deca too,

837
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: remember deccad we did.

838
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: We had a lot of good times. Maybe we'll have

839
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: some more good times.

840
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: Uh. You know, even though I'm a mother now, I

841
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: can't really do the shots anymore, but I'll have a cocktail.

842
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: I'll hear you one of those famous lines, Hello mother,

843
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: would you like another?

844
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I will be talking

845
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: to you soon, I'm sure. Thank you for coming on today,

846
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: and give my love to Candy, and just stay healthy

847
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: so we can work that year.

848
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: So all right, take care Gary, Thanks.

849
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:56,840
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